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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out?" Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. " My thoughts exactly. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out?" Teenagers blagging time off school.. Cheeky bastards  | |||
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"It’s not 46% of the secondary school population, it’s 46% of the secondary schools have had to send children home to isolate because of one or more virus cases " It always takes a bit for Lionel to get it the right ways about.  | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. " Course they were | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out?" I find 46% hard to believe. | |||
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"It’s not 46% of the secondary school population, it’s 46% of the secondary schools have had to send children home to isolate because of one or more virus cases " I stand corrected. Still an awful lot. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Course they were" Exactly the answered that was expected.  | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe." Its just over half the schools in the country. So I'm not really sure how closing pubs etc will affect this figure | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. One kid gets in the class and they all go home I assume. " Yep probably? But surely they must have known when the schools went back cases would rocket? Same with universities. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe." One kid gets it and the whole class goes home I assume. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. Its just over half the schools in the country. So I'm not really sure how closing pubs etc will affect this figure " It’s not half the schools in England if it’s 46% | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. One kid gets in the class and they all go home I assume. Yep probably? But surely they must have known when the schools went back cases would rocket? Same with universities." Yeah it was inevitable.But education comes first in my book. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. Its just over half the schools in the country. So I'm not really sure how closing pubs etc will affect this figure It’s not half the schools in England if it’s 46% " See my post above | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. One kid gets it and the whole class goes home I assume. " We had our first confirmed case yesterday and it is only that direct class, not the year bubble that has been sent home 21 kids out of 65. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. One kid gets it and the whole class goes home I assume. We had our first confirmed case yesterday and it is only that direct class, not the year bubble that has been sent home 21 kids out of 65. " Yeah that’s what happens with my kids .Both are in secondary. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. Its just over half the schools in the country. So I'm not really sure how closing pubs etc will affect this figure It’s not half the schools in England if it’s 46% See my post above" The 400,000 figure ? That is 5% of the school population | |||
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"Didn't we do this about four times last week Lionel? Don't worry Lionel the Pubs and Gyms will open again (eventually). " Did I mention the gym? Simply pointing out that people are getting blamed for the virus spreading, when Cleary a huge factor is schools and universities . | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. Its just over half the schools in the country. So I'm not really sure how closing pubs etc will affect this figure It’s not half the schools in England if it’s 46% See my post above The 400,000 figure ? That is 5% of the school population " The I stand corrected post. | |||
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"Didn't we do this about four times last week Lionel? Don't worry Lionel the Pubs and Gyms will open again (eventually). Did I mention the gym? Simply pointing out that people are getting blamed for the virus spreading, when Cleary a huge factor is schools and universities ." Did I mention the Universities? Yes. I did mention the Gym. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. One kid gets it and the whole class goes home I assume. " Depends how they've divided up the school, some class some year. In my son's high school's case the whole year gets sent home for two weeks. We're currently on the *8th* time in 6 weeks, including one year that has had to isolate twice. Plus a whole department of teachers of one subject. Education? What's that?  | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. One kid gets in the class and they all go home I assume. Yep probably? But surely they must have known when the schools went back cases would rocket? Same with universities." I guessed they did yes, but what other solution is there ? Kids can't stay at home forever, they would have to grow schools for them to isolate totally and employ double the amount of teachers, as that won't happen they have to mix in school classes | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. One kid gets it and the whole class goes home I assume. We had our first confirmed case yesterday and it is only that direct class, not the year bubble that has been sent home 21 kids out of 65. Yeah that’s what happens with my kids .Both are in secondary." Same here a secondary school. It’s not even for the 14 days, just three days as the parents forgot to inform the school of the test result so the class have just about got through the incubation period whilst he had been absent  | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. One kid gets it and the whole class goes home I assume. Depends how they've divided up the school, some class some year. In my son's high school's case the whole year gets sent home for two weeks. We're currently on the *8th* time in 6 weeks, including one year that has had to isolate twice. Plus a whole department of teachers of one subject. Education? What's that? "Blimey | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. Its just over half the schools in the country. So I'm not really sure how closing pubs etc will affect this figure It’s not half the schools in England if it’s 46% See my post above The 400,000 figure ? That is 5% of the school population The I stand corrected post." I saw that | |||
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"Didn't we do this about four times last week Lionel? Don't worry Lionel the Pubs and Gyms will open again (eventually). " You look like you are fed up with another users comments, please feel free to avoid them rather than try and score points as it spoils any chance of a debate | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. One kid gets in the class and they all go home I assume. Yep probably? But surely they must have known when the schools went back cases would rocket? Same with universities. I guessed they did yes, but what other solution is there ? Kids can't stay at home forever, they would have to grow schools for them to isolate totally and employ double the amount of teachers, as that won't happen they have to mix in school classes" No idea but it seems to be a huge elephant in the room. Schools and unis go back.. cases rocket. So lets close places of business that are nothing to do with either. If they are going to do a circuit break I guess it makes more sense to do it during half term. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. One kid gets it and the whole class goes home I assume. Depends how they've divided up the school, some class some year. In my son's high school's case the whole year gets sent home for two weeks. We're currently on the *8th* time in 6 weeks, including one year that has had to isolate twice. Plus a whole department of teachers of one subject. Education? What's that? "My kids secondary is large and each year wears a colour coded badge and no year groups can mingle .Outside of school is obviously a different matter. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. Its just over half the schools in the country. So I'm not really sure how closing pubs etc will affect this figure It’s not half the schools in England if it’s 46% See my post above The 400,000 figure ? That is 5% of the school population The I stand corrected post. I saw that "Well there you go..I'm often wrong | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. " Most obvious reason I'd have thought. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. One kid gets in the class and they all go home I assume. Yep probably? But surely they must have known when the schools went back cases would rocket? Same with universities. I guessed they did yes, but what other solution is there ? Kids can't stay at home forever, they would have to grow schools for them to isolate totally and employ double the amount of teachers, as that won't happen they have to mix in school classes No idea but it seems to be a huge elephant in the room. Schools and unis go back.. cases rocket. So lets close places of business that are nothing to do with either. If they are going to do a circuit break I guess it makes more sense to do it during half term." Is it a big elephant though, they have not said how many actual cases are attributed to schools All they have stated is the percentage of schools that have had to send children home for isolation and that equates to 5% of the school population | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. " Do university students have parents congregating at the gates,? | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. Its just over half the schools in the country. So I'm not really sure how closing pubs etc will affect this figure It’s not half the schools in England if it’s 46% See my post above The 400,000 figure ? That is 5% of the school population The I stand corrected post. I saw that
Well there you go..I'm often wrong ".... and I doff my cap to you acknowledging that | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. Its just over half the schools in the country. So I'm not really sure how closing pubs etc will affect this figure It’s not half the schools in England if it’s 46% See my post above The 400,000 figure ? That is 5% of the school population The I stand corrected post. I saw that
Well there you go..I'm often wrong
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. One kid gets it and the whole class goes home I assume. We had our first confirmed case yesterday and it is only that direct class, not the year bubble that has been sent home 21 kids out of 65. " My girl is in a bubble of 15 so only 15 would go home to isolate if 1 was infected. Her school has separate entrances for each year group and staggered start times,had 2 cases so far and only 30 in the school isolating, rest of school carrying on as normal | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. " its probably more likely the pupils took it home, but either way the parents cant further spread it but hanging about after the pub now so what difference does it make ? at the end of the day pupils at school is a more important interaction then a drink at the pub ... to reduce the spread we have to cut interactions.., but hey lets scrap education so some folk can bench press then have a pint | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. its probably more likely the pupils took it home, but either way the parents cant further spread it but hanging about after the pub now so what difference does it make ? at the end of the day pupils at school is a more important interaction then a drink at the pub ... to reduce the spread we have to cut interactions.., but hey lets scrap education so some folk can bench press then have a pint " Wanna point out where anyone has said that? | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. One kid gets it and the whole class goes home I assume. We had our first confirmed case yesterday and it is only that direct class, not the year bubble that has been sent home 21 kids out of 65. My girl is in a bubble of 15 so only 15 would go home to isolate if 1 was infected. Her school has separate entrances for each year group and staggered start times,had 2 cases so far and only 30 in the school isolating, rest of school carrying on as normal " It’s the same at our school, different entrances, different floors per year, 10 minute apart start / end times... our first case and like you just the class sent home (including the form teacher) and the rest of the school continuing | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. One kid gets in the class and they all go home I assume. Yep probably? But surely they must have known when the schools went back cases would rocket? Same with universities. I guessed they did yes, but what other solution is there ? Kids can't stay at home forever, they would have to grow schools for them to isolate totally and employ double the amount of teachers, as that won't happen they have to mix in school classes No idea but it seems to be a huge elephant in the room. Schools and unis go back.. cases rocket. So lets close places of business that are nothing to do with either. If they are going to do a circuit break I guess it makes more sense to do it during half term." I think we all knew this was going to happen to be fair, this is what happens in schools every year never mind during Covid, kids spread anything that is going. I am sure I saw a graph somewhere that said school was the highest for infections, however, the kids are getting it from somewhere in the beginning so potentially that could be from parents who are going the pub..although it could also be parents outside schools who all line up two metres apart to pick up kids and and then congregate outside school in groups on the way out | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. " Doesn't seem obvious to me, especially if you study the statistics that show the prevalence in under 21s is far higher than under 40s(parents) or you could actually look at the ons data that shows hospitality is responsible for 3-5% of infections where as schools and universities were 38-45%. It's an endemic airborne virus, it's going to get around unless we all lock ourselves in a cupboard and stay there for the next three years until the wonder vaccine makes it not a problem. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. One kid gets it and the whole class goes home I assume. We had our first confirmed case yesterday and it is only that direct class, not the year bubble that has been sent home 21 kids out of 65. My girl is in a bubble of 15 so only 15 would go home to isolate if 1 was infected. Her school has separate entrances for each year group and staggered start times,had 2 cases so far and only 30 in the school isolating, rest of school carrying on as normal It’s the same at our school, different entrances, different floors per year, 10 minute apart start / end times... our first case and like you just the class sent home (including the form teacher) and the rest of the school continuing " Yes, to be honest I cant fault the school, and I would prefer my girl to be there, didn't do her any good being at home, I struggled to work full time and home school. I just appreciate not everyone shares my view and feels they are pivotal to the spread, but I guess it does rely a lot on the measures each school has in place. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. One kid gets in the class and they all go home I assume. Yep probably? But surely they must have known when the schools went back cases would rocket? Same with universities. I guessed they did yes, but what other solution is there ? Kids can't stay at home forever, they would have to grow schools for them to isolate totally and employ double the amount of teachers, as that won't happen they have to mix in school classes No idea but it seems to be a huge elephant in the room. Schools and unis go back.. cases rocket. So lets close places of business that are nothing to do with either. If they are going to do a circuit break I guess it makes more sense to do it during half term. I think we all knew this was going to happen to be fair, this is what happens in schools every year never mind during Covid, kids spread anything that is going. I am sure I saw a graph somewhere that said school was the highest for infections, however, the kids are getting it from somewhere in the beginning so potentially that could be from parents who are going the pub..although it could also be parents outside schools who all line up two metres apart to pick up kids and and then congregate outside school in groups on the way out "I thinking pointing the finger of blame is pointless. The simple fact that kids,teachers and pupils are all going to be mingling,even when strict measures are in place,in the 1 place,means the rates were going to shoot up. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. Doesn't seem obvious to me, especially if you study the statistics that show the prevalence in under 21s is far higher than under 40s(parents) or you could actually look at the ons data that shows hospitality is responsible for 3-5% of infections where as schools and universities were 38-45%. " This is what I was talking about that I had seen  | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. Doesn't seem obvious to me, especially if you study the statistics that show the prevalence in under 21s is far higher than under 40s(parents) or you could actually look at the ons data that shows hospitality is responsible for 3-5% of infections where as schools and universities were 38-45%. It's an endemic airborne virus, it's going to get around unless we all lock ourselves in a cupboard and stay there for the next three years until the wonder vaccine makes it not a problem." Tbh I thought it would have affected primary kids more. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. Doesn't seem obvious to me, especially if you study the statistics that show the prevalence in under 21s is far higher than under 40s(parents) or you could actually look at the ons data that shows hospitality is responsible for 3-5% of infections where as schools and universities were 38-45%. It's an endemic airborne virus, it's going to get around unless we all lock ourselves in a cupboard and stay there for the next three years until the wonder vaccine makes it not a problem." When you look at those stats its just insane. But we just seem to have a head in the sand approach. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. One kid gets it and the whole class goes home I assume. We had our first confirmed case yesterday and it is only that direct class, not the year bubble that has been sent home 21 kids out of 65. My girl is in a bubble of 15 so only 15 would go home to isolate if 1 was infected. Her school has separate entrances for each year group and staggered start times,had 2 cases so far and only 30 in the school isolating, rest of school carrying on as normal It’s the same at our school, different entrances, different floors per year, 10 minute apart start / end times... our first case and like you just the class sent home (including the form teacher) and the rest of the school continuing Yes, to be honest I cant fault the school, and I would prefer my girl to be there, didn't do her any good being at home, I struggled to work full time and home school. I just appreciate not everyone shares my view and feels they are pivotal to the spread, but I guess it does rely a lot on the measures each school has in place." I kinda agree they are the cause of the rising numbers, do I think they should close again? No but I do think parents should be given a choice whether they send them without fear of prosecution. We have had no cases at our school where as others have had repeated cases. I wouldn't want to send mine if they ended up being sent home to isolate repeatedly. | |||
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 my nephew has been in school 2 weeks this year whats the point | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. One kid gets it and the whole class goes home I assume. We had our first confirmed case yesterday and it is only that direct class, not the year bubble that has been sent home 21 kids out of 65. My girl is in a bubble of 15 so only 15 would go home to isolate if 1 was infected. Her school has separate entrances for each year group and staggered start times,had 2 cases so far and only 30 in the school isolating, rest of school carrying on as normal It’s the same at our school, different entrances, different floors per year, 10 minute apart start / end times... our first case and like you just the class sent home (including the form teacher) and the rest of the school continuing Yes, to be honest I cant fault the school, and I would prefer my girl to be there, didn't do her any good being at home, I struggled to work full time and home school. I just appreciate not everyone shares my view and feels they are pivotal to the spread, but I guess it does rely a lot on the measures each school has in place. I kinda agree they are the cause of the rising numbers, do I think they should close again? No but I do think parents should be given a choice whether they send them without fear of prosecution. We have had no cases at our school where as others have had repeated cases. I wouldn't want to send mine if they ended up being sent home to isolate repeatedly. " Yep, agree | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. Doesn't seem obvious to me, especially if you study the statistics that show the prevalence in under 21s is far higher than under 40s(parents) or you could actually look at the ons data that shows hospitality is responsible for 3-5% of infections where as schools and universities were 38-45%. It's an endemic airborne virus, it's going to get around unless we all lock ourselves in a cupboard and stay there for the next three years until the wonder vaccine makes it not a problem." So since this all started the numbers of positive tests now stands at 629,211 in England You say that the prevalence is under 21s rather than 21-40s, in fact it is very similar numbers 0-19 Fem 47,447 Mal 41.341 Tot 88,788 Unable to separate 21 year olds out just like the numbers above don’t separate school / university attendees as groups them 15-19 20-24 Fem 35,292 Mal 29,119 Tot 64,411 25-39 Fem 79,646 Mal 63,928 Tot 143,574 If you add 0-24 together it’s a total of 153,199 cases an increase of 9,625 of your parent group, 40 and under Add to that 40-49, who are also likely to be parents 40-49 Fem 46,898 Mal 36,361 Tot 83,259 At the end of the day we don’t know exactly where anyone is picking it up from unless they track back every single instance. All this cross blaming over age groups / activities isn’t helping anyone and just causing friction. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. Doesn't seem obvious to me, especially if you study the statistics that show the prevalence in under 21s is far higher than under 40s(parents) or you could actually look at the ons data that shows hospitality is responsible for 3-5% of infections where as schools and universities were 38-45%. It's an endemic airborne virus, it's going to get around unless we all lock ourselves in a cupboard and stay there for the next three years until the wonder vaccine makes it not a problem. So since this all started the numbers of positive tests now stands at 629,211 in England You say that the prevalence is under 21s rather than 21-40s, in fact it is very similar numbers 0-19 Fem 47,447 Mal 41.341 Tot 88,788 Unable to separate 21 year olds out just like the numbers above don’t separate school / university attendees as groups them 15-19 20-24 Fem 35,292 Mal 29,119 Tot 64,411 25-39 Fem 79,646 Mal 63,928 Tot 143,574 If you add 0-24 together it’s a total of 153,199 cases an increase of 9,625 of your parent group, 40 and under Add to that 40-49, who are also likely to be parents 40-49 Fem 46,898 Mal 36,361 Tot 83,259 At the end of the day we don’t know exactly where anyone is picking it up from unless they track back every single instance. All this cross blaming over age groups / activities isn’t helping anyone and just causing friction. " That's the overall figures, if you look at the actual figures since beginning of September when schools went back you'll see what I meant. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. One kid gets in the class and they all go home I assume. Yep probably? But surely they must have known when the schools went back cases would rocket? Same with universities. I guessed they did yes, but what other solution is there ? Kids can't stay at home forever, they would have to grow schools for them to isolate totally and employ double the amount of teachers, as that won't happen they have to mix in school classes No idea but it seems to be a huge elephant in the room. Schools and unis go back.. cases rocket. So lets close places of business that are nothing to do with either. If they are going to do a circuit break I guess it makes more sense to do it during half term. I think we all knew this was going to happen to be fair, this is what happens in schools every year never mind during Covid, kids spread anything that is going. I am sure I saw a graph somewhere that said school was the highest for infections, however, the kids are getting it from somewhere in the beginning so potentially that could be from parents who are going the pub..although it could also be parents outside schools who all line up two metres apart to pick up kids and and then congregate outside school in groups on the way out
I thinking pointing the finger of blame is pointless.
The simple fact that kids,teachers and pupils are all going to be mingling,even when strict measures are in place,in the 1 place,means the rates were going to shoot up."was this not a blame pointing at schools thread? it seemed so? | |||
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"Should be shut only reason there open is whiney parents who cant handle kids 24/7 my nephew has been in school 2 weeks this year whats the point "They probably should be shut, it was silly to open them in September really but that's by the by. Schools aren't going to close again anyway | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. its probably more likely the pupils took it home, but either way the parents cant further spread it but hanging about after the pub now so what difference does it make ? at the end of the day pupils at school is a more important interaction then a drink at the pub ... to reduce the spread we have to cut interactions.., but hey lets scrap education so some folk can bench press then have a pint Wanna point out where anyone has said that?" it might not have been explicitly worded on this thread but to me its the undertone of posts that say schools are higher than gyms and pubs so why are we closing those but keeping schools open | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? I find 46% hard to believe. One kid gets it and the whole class goes home I assume. We had our first confirmed case yesterday and it is only that direct class, not the year bubble that has been sent home 21 kids out of 65. My girl is in a bubble of 15 so only 15 would go home to isolate if 1 was infected. Her school has separate entrances for each year group and staggered start times,had 2 cases so far and only 30 in the school isolating, rest of school carrying on as normal It’s the same at our school, different entrances, different floors per year, 10 minute apart start / end times... our first case and like you just the class sent home (including the form teacher) and the rest of the school continuing Yes, to be honest I cant fault the school, and I would prefer my girl to be there, didn't do her any good being at home, I struggled to work full time and home school. I just appreciate not everyone shares my view and feels they are pivotal to the spread, but I guess it does rely a lot on the measures each school has in place." Nor I mine, they have been great. I much prefer my lad to be in school the change in his personality is ten fold, he is enjoying and appreciating school. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. Doesn't seem obvious to me, especially if you study the statistics that show the prevalence in under 21s is far higher than under 40s(parents) or you could actually look at the ons data that shows hospitality is responsible for 3-5% of infections where as schools and universities were 38-45%. It's an endemic airborne virus, it's going to get around unless we all lock ourselves in a cupboard and stay there for the next three years until the wonder vaccine makes it not a problem. Tbh I thought it would have affected primary kids more." It may well be but under 9s have the highest prevalence of asymptomatic so it's most likely that there just not seeing it in testing numbers. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. its probably more likely the pupils took it home, but either way the parents cant further spread it but hanging about after the pub now so what difference does it make ? at the end of the day pupils at school is a more important interaction then a drink at the pub ... to reduce the spread we have to cut interactions.., but hey lets scrap education so some folk can bench press then have a pint Wanna point out where anyone has said that? it might not have been explicitly worded on this thread but to me its the undertone of posts that say schools are higher than gyms and pubs so why are we closing those but keeping schools open " actually i am saying undertone but the OP pits schools and pubs against each other quite clearly actually | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. Doesn't seem obvious to me, especially if you study the statistics that show the prevalence in under 21s is far higher than under 40s(parents) or you could actually look at the ons data that shows hospitality is responsible for 3-5% of infections where as schools and universities were 38-45%. It's an endemic airborne virus, it's going to get around unless we all lock ourselves in a cupboard and stay there for the next three years until the wonder vaccine makes it not a problem. So since this all started the numbers of positive tests now stands at 629,211 in England You say that the prevalence is under 21s rather than 21-40s, in fact it is very similar numbers 0-19 Fem 47,447 Mal 41.341 Tot 88,788 Unable to separate 21 year olds out just like the numbers above don’t separate school / university attendees as groups them 15-19 20-24 Fem 35,292 Mal 29,119 Tot 64,411 25-39 Fem 79,646 Mal 63,928 Tot 143,574 If you add 0-24 together it’s a total of 153,199 cases an increase of 9,625 of your parent group, 40 and under Add to that 40-49, who are also likely to be parents 40-49 Fem 46,898 Mal 36,361 Tot 83,259 At the end of the day we don’t know exactly where anyone is picking it up from unless they track back every single instance. All this cross blaming over age groups / activities isn’t helping anyone and just causing friction. That's the overall figures, if you look at the actual figures since beginning of September when schools went back you'll see what I meant. "Where are those figures then, because unless you sit and go through each nhs region / area you don’t get those figures broken down that way. The above is from gov.uk and breaks down many ways but not how you describe | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. Doesn't seem obvious to me, especially if you study the statistics that show the prevalence in under 21s is far higher than under 40s(parents) or you could actually look at the ons data that shows hospitality is responsible for 3-5% of infections where as schools and universities were 38-45%. It's an endemic airborne virus, it's going to get around unless we all lock ourselves in a cupboard and stay there for the next three years until the wonder vaccine makes it not a problem. Tbh I thought it would have affected primary kids more. It may well be but under 9s have the highest prevalence of asymptomatic so it's most likely that there just not seeing it in testing numbers." True as if you are asymptomatic you wouldn’t be getting tested so how can they know this, it can only be surmising | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out?" I can only give you our experience. Same school one primary one secondary in well defined & strict as hell bubnles. Kept younger off on a Monday with a cough, no more school asked us to collect sibling & don’t come back till tested. Four days just to get a test so a week off school for both. Last Monday Migraine, lack of taste home again tested Thursday, result today so they’ll be back to school tomorrow after another week off. Thing is for us, it’s not a hardship as H doesn’t work & I work from home. If however we both went out to work putting it bluntly in very short order we’d be fck’d & I really feel for working parents atm. Our kids have spent a total of eight days in school since they went back & no they haven’t had it. But they have isolated “Due to” CV19 not b cause they’ve had it. S | |||
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"I don't think cases actually matter, we should be concentrating on actual diagnosed illness and then actual cases of severe covid showing up in the healthcare system. All we should be trying to do is avoid the health service being overrun with problems." But we should care about cases as that is what a lot of all these stats are based on, what is closing parts of schools, business, etc; along with how many in each region and their speed of growth is bringing the different tier levels, as well as the number of hospitalisations / ventilated beds used | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. Doesn't seem obvious to me, especially if you study the statistics that show the prevalence in under 21s is far higher than under 40s(parents) or you could actually look at the ons data that shows hospitality is responsible for 3-5% of infections where as schools and universities were 38-45%. It's an endemic airborne virus, it's going to get around unless we all lock ourselves in a cupboard and stay there for the next three years until the wonder vaccine makes it not a problem. So since this all started the numbers of positive tests now stands at 629,211 in England You say that the prevalence is under 21s rather than 21-40s, in fact it is very similar numbers 0-19 Fem 47,447 Mal 41.341 Tot 88,788 Unable to separate 21 year olds out just like the numbers above don’t separate school / university attendees as groups them 15-19 20-24 Fem 35,292 Mal 29,119 Tot 64,411 25-39 Fem 79,646 Mal 63,928 Tot 143,574 If you add 0-24 together it’s a total of 153,199 cases an increase of 9,625 of your parent group, 40 and under Add to that 40-49, who are also likely to be parents 40-49 Fem 46,898 Mal 36,361 Tot 83,259 At the end of the day we don’t know exactly where anyone is picking it up from unless they track back every single instance. All this cross blaming over age groups / activities isn’t helping anyone and just causing friction. That's the overall figures, if you look at the actual figures since beginning of September when schools went back you'll see what I meant.
Where are those figures then, because unless you sit and go through each nhs region / area you don’t get those figures broken down that way. The above is from gov.uk and breaks down many ways but not how you describe "PHE published those figures weeks ago at the start of the so called second wave, they were literally all under 35 and mostly under 21, they then said that's why the rise in cases didn't see a rise in hospitalisations and deaths. | |||
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"Didn't we do this about four times last week Lionel? Don't worry Lionel the Pubs and Gyms will open again (eventually). You look like you are fed up with another users comments, please feel free to avoid them rather than try and score points as it spoils any chance of a debate" I'm not fed up at all with the other user - we always have lively debate | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. its probably more likely the pupils took it home, but either way the parents cant further spread it but hanging about after the pub now so what difference does it make ? at the end of the day pupils at school is a more important interaction then a drink at the pub ... to reduce the spread we have to cut interactions.., but hey lets scrap education so some folk can bench press then have a pint Wanna point out where anyone has said that? it might not have been explicitly worded on this thread but to me its the undertone of posts that say schools are higher than gyms and pubs so why are we closing those but keeping schools open " It's not that at all. Clearly schools snd universities have so cases increase dramatically. So why close business where the infection rate is tiny, and where in some cases,actually help peoples mental health? It makes no sense whatsoever. Is it going to reduce the spread?certainly not in the slightest if bolton is used as an example. They never even mention schools and universities when they bring in these restrictions..its not even discussed. | |||
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" They never even mention schools and universities when they bring in these restrictions..its not even discussed." But the Universities have been locking down students and going to online learning - The Government have said they will resist the closure of schools, so they have said it often. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. Doesn't seem obvious to me, especially if you study the statistics that show the prevalence in under 21s is far higher than under 40s(parents) or you could actually look at the ons data that shows hospitality is responsible for 3-5% of infections where as schools and universities were 38-45%. It's an endemic airborne virus, it's going to get around unless we all lock ourselves in a cupboard and stay there for the next three years until the wonder vaccine makes it not a problem. So since this all started the numbers of positive tests now stands at 629,211 in England You say that the prevalence is under 21s rather than 21-40s, in fact it is very similar numbers 0-19 Fem 47,447 Mal 41.341 Tot 88,788 Unable to separate 21 year olds out just like the numbers above don’t separate school / university attendees as groups them 15-19 20-24 Fem 35,292 Mal 29,119 Tot 64,411 25-39 Fem 79,646 Mal 63,928 Tot 143,574 If you add 0-24 together it’s a total of 153,199 cases an increase of 9,625 of your parent group, 40 and under Add to that 40-49, who are also likely to be parents 40-49 Fem 46,898 Mal 36,361 Tot 83,259 At the end of the day we don’t know exactly where anyone is picking it up from unless they track back every single instance. All this cross blaming over age groups / activities isn’t helping anyone and just causing friction. That's the overall figures, if you look at the actual figures since beginning of September when schools went back you'll see what I meant.
Where are those figures then, because unless you sit and go through each nhs region / area you don’t get those figures broken down that way. The above is from gov.uk and breaks down many ways but not how you describe
PHE published those figures weeks ago at the start of the so called second wave, they were literally all under 35 and mostly under 21, they then said that's why the rise in cases didn't see a rise in hospitalisations and deaths."PHE is the government site and I have never found and link breaking them down in the way you describe | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. its probably more likely the pupils took it home, but either way the parents cant further spread it but hanging about after the pub now so what difference does it make ? at the end of the day pupils at school is a more important interaction then a drink at the pub ... to reduce the spread we have to cut interactions.., but hey lets scrap education so some folk can bench press then have a pint Wanna point out where anyone has said that? it might not have been explicitly worded on this thread but to me its the undertone of posts that say schools are higher than gyms and pubs so why are we closing those but keeping schools open " Kids need an education more than adults need a pint maybe? Kids are said to be carriers rather than get quite ill if they catch covid. Ok so they can pass it on but should they lose out educationally & socially? | |||
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" They never even mention schools and universities when they bring in these restrictions..its not even discussed. But the Universities have been locking down students and going to online learning - The Government have said they will resist the closure of schools, so they have said it often." Only because its absolutely rife in universities. | |||
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" They never even mention schools and universities when they bring in these restrictions..its not even discussed. But the Universities have been locking down students and going to online learning - The Government have said they will resist the closure of schools, so they have said it often. Only because its absolutely rife in universities. " Then wouldn't that be the right thing to do? | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. its probably more likely the pupils took it home, but either way the parents cant further spread it but hanging about after the pub now so what difference does it make ? at the end of the day pupils at school is a more important interaction then a drink at the pub ... to reduce the spread we have to cut interactions.., but hey lets scrap education so some folk can bench press then have a pint Wanna point out where anyone has said that? it might not have been explicitly worded on this thread but to me its the undertone of posts that say schools are higher than gyms and pubs so why are we closing those but keeping schools open Kids need an education more than adults need a pint maybe? Kids are said to be carriers rather than get quite ill if they catch covid. Ok so they can pass it on but should they lose out educationally & socially? " I'll repeat It's nothing whatsoever to do with 'a pint is more important than education ' Its do with them closing business where the infection rate is tiny and keeping open places where its rampant. Look at those infection rates above. What's it going to achieve? The egg heads advocated a short full lockdown and we have simply ignored them. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. Doesn't seem obvious to me, especially if you study the statistics that show the prevalence in under 21s is far higher than under 40s(parents) or you could actually look at the ons data that shows hospitality is responsible for 3-5% of infections where as schools and universities were 38-45%. It's an endemic airborne virus, it's going to get around unless we all lock ourselves in a cupboard and stay there for the next three years until the wonder vaccine makes it not a problem. So since this all started the numbers of positive tests now stands at 629,211 in England You say that the prevalence is under 21s rather than 21-40s, in fact it is very similar numbers 0-19 Fem 47,447 Mal 41.341 Tot 88,788 Unable to separate 21 year olds out just like the numbers above don’t separate school / university attendees as groups them 15-19 20-24 Fem 35,292 Mal 29,119 Tot 64,411 25-39 Fem 79,646 Mal 63,928 Tot 143,574 If you add 0-24 together it’s a total of 153,199 cases an increase of 9,625 of your parent group, 40 and under Add to that 40-49, who are also likely to be parents 40-49 Fem 46,898 Mal 36,361 Tot 83,259 At the end of the day we don’t know exactly where anyone is picking it up from unless they track back every single instance. All this cross blaming over age groups / activities isn’t helping anyone and just causing friction. That's the overall figures, if you look at the actual figures since beginning of September when schools went back you'll see what I meant.
Where are those figures then, because unless you sit and go through each nhs region / area you don’t get those figures broken down that way. The above is from gov.uk and breaks down many ways but not how you describe
PHE published those figures weeks ago at the start of the so called second wave, they were literally all under 35 and mostly under 21, they then said that's why the rise in cases didn't see a rise in hospitalisations and deaths.
PHE is the government site and I have never found and link breaking them down in the way you describe "It was in quite a few of the main BBC stores plus Im pretty sure it was mentioned by the brothers Grimm in a press briefing. | |||
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" They never even mention schools and universities when they bring in these restrictions..its not even discussed. But the Universities have been locking down students and going to online learning - The Government have said they will resist the closure of schools, so they have said it often. Only because its absolutely rife in universities. Then wouldn't that be the right thing to do? " Of course but surely the rate was going to shoot up once they all went back to university? Is it really fair to send turn all back and have them locked up? Did we even have that debate? | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. its probably more likely the pupils took it home, but either way the parents cant further spread it but hanging about after the pub now so what difference does it make ? at the end of the day pupils at school is a more important interaction then a drink at the pub ... to reduce the spread we have to cut interactions.., but hey lets scrap education so some folk can bench press then have a pint Wanna point out where anyone has said that? it might not have been explicitly worded on this thread but to me its the undertone of posts that say schools are higher than gyms and pubs so why are we closing those but keeping schools open It's not that at all. Clearly schools snd universities have so cases increase dramatically. So why close business where the infection rate is tiny, and where in some cases,actually help peoples mental health? It makes no sense whatsoever. Is it going to reduce the spread?certainly not in the slightest if bolton is used as an example. They never even mention schools and universities when they bring in these restrictions..its not even discussed." it doesn’t make sense to you , but for many other posters who see education as being incredibly important it makes perfect sense to reduce all and any other interaction if required to keep the schools open also if the schools close how do the people that work at the gyms and shops and pubs and restaurants make it to work as they can’t leave the kids at home alone? a number of posters have also mentioned that returning to school has had an improvement on both kid and parents mental health too i dont even have kids to be at school, or the hassle of them if they are home and yet i can see how it makes sense for me to give up a couple of cocktails, some dinners out and a workout if it allows them to continue with their face to face education my personal opinion is when people say they dont understand what i think they really mean is i dont agree because it doesnt suit me | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. its probably more likely the pupils took it home, but either way the parents cant further spread it but hanging about after the pub now so what difference does it make ? at the end of the day pupils at school is a more important interaction then a drink at the pub ... to reduce the spread we have to cut interactions.., but hey lets scrap education so some folk can bench press then have a pint Wanna point out where anyone has said that? it might not have been explicitly worded on this thread but to me its the undertone of posts that say schools are higher than gyms and pubs so why are we closing those but keeping schools open Kids need an education more than adults need a pint maybe? Kids are said to be carriers rather than get quite ill if they catch covid. Ok so they can pass it on but should they lose out educationally & socially? I'll repeat It's nothing whatsoever to do with 'a pint is more important than education ' Its do with them closing business where the infection rate is tiny and keeping open places where its rampant. Look at those infection rates above. What's it going to achieve? The egg heads advocated a short full lockdown and we have simply ignored them." Those infection rates I quoted is the whole time since COVID. The paper today says 400,000 have isolated which is 5% of the school population, it doesn’t say how many are infected. I’ve said before on previous threads schools for the kids is their only, in most cases, social interaction with their peers, with the added educational aspect. Why should they give that up so the adults can enjoy all their socially distancing socialising ? | |||
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" They never even mention schools and universities when they bring in these restrictions..its not even discussed. But the Universities have been locking down students and going to online learning - The Government have said they will resist the closure of schools, so they have said it often. Only because its absolutely rife in universities. Then wouldn't that be the right thing to do? Of course but surely the rate was going to shoot up once they all went back to university? Is it really fair to send turn all back and have them locked up? Did we even have that debate?" As I recall that's all that was talked about for about three months - In the end most people said it was probably best to send them back to catch up on their education. Of course it was going to go up, just like when we were all released from the initial lockdown it went up. Mitigation is being done with most Uni's going to online learning wherever possible. | |||
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"Should be shut only reason there open is whiney parents who cant handle kids 24/7 my nephew has been in school 2 weeks this year whats the point
They probably should be shut, it was silly to open them in September really but that's by the by. Schools aren't going to close again anyway"agreed makes no sence to me we all left school at 16 with gcses now they have to stay till 18 so why not just move gcses to 18 theres a 2 extra year window for them to learn call it compensation for missing school due to covid its no great headache but no what they do instead is give them 3 extra months to prep to make up for the lost time utterly insane logic to me | |||
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" They never even mention schools and universities when they bring in these restrictions..its not even discussed. But the Universities have been locking down students and going to online learning - The Government have said they will resist the closure of schools, so they have said it often. Only because its absolutely rife in universities. Then wouldn't that be the right thing to do? Of course but surely the rate was going to shoot up once they all went back to university? Is it really fair to send turn all back and have them locked up? Did we even have that debate? As I recall that's all that was talked about for about three months - In the end most people said it was probably best to send them back to catch up on their education. Of course it was going to go up, just like when we were all released from the initial lockdown it went up. Mitigation is being done with most Uni's going to online learning wherever possible. " As I recall the debate was about schools with loads if teachers getting called all sorts. | |||
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"Should be shut only reason there open is whiney parents who cant handle kids 24/7 my nephew has been in school 2 weeks this year whats the point
They probably should be shut, it was silly to open them in September really but that's by the by. Schools aren't going to close again anywayagreed makes no sence to me we all left school at 16 with gcses now they have to stay till 18 so why not just move gcses to 18 theres a 2 extra year window for them to learn call it compensation for missing school due to covid its no great headache but no what they do instead is give them 3 extra months to prep to make up for the lost time utterly insane logic to me "What would moving GCSE to age 18 do other than hold them back? College enrollment require GCSE results to get onto further ed courses. My eldest lad hasnt done his actual GCSE because of the school closures, thankfully they still gave out results so he was able to get onto the college course he wanted. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. its probably more likely the pupils took it home, but either way the parents cant further spread it but hanging about after the pub now so what difference does it make ? at the end of the day pupils at school is a more important interaction then a drink at the pub ... to reduce the spread we have to cut interactions.., but hey lets scrap education so some folk can bench press then have a pint Wanna point out where anyone has said that? it might not have been explicitly worded on this thread but to me its the undertone of posts that say schools are higher than gyms and pubs so why are we closing those but keeping schools open It's not that at all. Clearly schools snd universities have so cases increase dramatically. So why close business where the infection rate is tiny, and where in some cases,actually help peoples mental health? It makes no sense whatsoever. Is it going to reduce the spread?certainly not in the slightest if bolton is used as an example. They never even mention schools and universities when they bring in these restrictions..its not even discussed. it doesn’t make sense to you , but for many other posters who see education as being incredibly important it makes perfect sense to reduce all and any other interaction if required to keep the schools open also if the schools close how do the people that work at the gyms and shops and pubs and restaurants make it to work as they can’t leave the kids at home alone? a number of posters have also mentioned that returning to school has had an improvement on both kid and parents mental health too i dont even have kids to be at school, or the hassle of them if they are home and yet i can see how it makes sense for me to give up a couple of cocktails, some dinners out and a workout if it allows them to continue with their face to face education my personal opinion is when people say they dont understand what i think they really mean is i dont agree because it doesnt suit me One last time. I havent said schools are to close. I have said the infection rates are high are in schools and universities As a response to this they have closed other businesses. They have done this in bolton and the rate has gone up. So maybe I'm just missing something but I think such a plan is a little flawed. " okay clearly i am missing your point then ... if your point is not that schools should be closing instead of gyms and pubs then what it is it? and what would your alternative solution to the current flawed plan be? | |||
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They probably should be shut, it was silly to open them in September really but that's by the by. Schools aren't going to close again anywayagreed makes no sence to me we all left school at 16 with gcses now they have to stay till 18 so why not just move gcses to 18 theres a 2 extra year window for them to learn call it compensation for missing school due to covid its no great headache but no what they do instead is give them 3 extra months to prep to make up for the lost time utterly insane logic to me
What would moving GCSE to age 18 do other than hold them back? College enrollment require GCSE results to get onto further ed courses. My eldest lad hasnt done his actual GCSE because of the school closures, thankfully they still gave out results so he was able to get onto the college course he wanted. "move everything forwards 2 years all education | |||
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They probably should be shut, it was silly to open them in September really but that's by the by. Schools aren't going to close again anywayagreed makes no sence to me we all left school at 16 with gcses now they have to stay till 18 so why not just move gcses to 18 theres a 2 extra year window for them to learn call it compensation for missing school due to covid its no great headache but no what they do instead is give them 3 extra months to prep to make up for the lost time utterly insane logic to me
What would moving GCSE to age 18 do other than hold them back? College enrollment require GCSE results to get onto further ed courses. My eldest lad hasnt done his actual GCSE because of the school closures, thankfully they still gave out results so he was able to get onto the college course he wanted. move everything forwards 2 years all education "you say move forward but really its hold back ... if everyone stays in education for an additional 2 years what happens with the next 2 years intake? | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. its probably more likely the pupils took it home, but either way the parents cant further spread it but hanging about after the pub now so what difference does it make ? at the end of the day pupils at school is a more important interaction then a drink at the pub ... to reduce the spread we have to cut interactions.., but hey lets scrap education so some folk can bench press then have a pint Wanna point out where anyone has said that? it might not have been explicitly worded on this thread but to me its the undertone of posts that say schools are higher than gyms and pubs so why are we closing those but keeping schools open It's not that at all. Clearly schools snd universities have so cases increase dramatically. So why close business where the infection rate is tiny, and where in some cases,actually help peoples mental health? It makes no sense whatsoever. Is it going to reduce the spread?certainly not in the slightest if bolton is used as an example. They never even mention schools and universities when they bring in these restrictions..its not even discussed. it doesn’t make sense to you , but for many other posters who see education as being incredibly important it makes perfect sense to reduce all and any other interaction if required to keep the schools open also if the schools close how do the people that work at the gyms and shops and pubs and restaurants make it to work as they can’t leave the kids at home alone? a number of posters have also mentioned that returning to school has had an improvement on both kid and parents mental health too i dont even have kids to be at school, or the hassle of them if they are home and yet i can see how it makes sense for me to give up a couple of cocktails, some dinners out and a workout if it allows them to continue with their face to face education my personal opinion is when people say they dont understand what i think they really mean is i dont agree because it doesnt suit me One last time. I havent said schools are to close. I have said the infection rates are high are in schools and universities As a response to this they have closed other businesses. They have done this in bolton and the rate has gone up. So maybe I'm just missing something but I think such a plan is a little flawed. okay clearly i am missing your point then ... if your point is not that schools should be closing instead of gyms and pubs then what it is it? and what would your alternative solution to the current flawed plan be? " Ive no idea. In Bolton they have been in stage 3 (albeit not called that)and the cases have increased. The scientists have said the tier system wont work. Clearly it's a flawed policy but the gmnt are going for it anyway I think we are heading for a full lockdown and if we are, it makes sense to do it when the kids are off. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. its probably more likely the pupils took it home, but either way the parents cant further spread it but hanging about after the pub now so what difference does it make ? at the end of the day pupils at school is a more important interaction then a drink at the pub ... to reduce the spread we have to cut interactions.., but hey lets scrap education so some folk can bench press then have a pint Wanna point out where anyone has said that? it might not have been explicitly worded on this thread but to me its the undertone of posts that say schools are higher than gyms and pubs so why are we closing those but keeping schools open It's not that at all. Clearly schools snd universities have so cases increase dramatically. So why close business where the infection rate is tiny, and where in some cases,actually help peoples mental health? It makes no sense whatsoever. Is it going to reduce the spread?certainly not in the slightest if bolton is used as an example. They never even mention schools and universities when they bring in these restrictions..its not even discussed. it doesn’t make sense to you , but for many other posters who see education as being incredibly important it makes perfect sense to reduce all and any other interaction if required to keep the schools open also if the schools close how do the people that work at the gyms and shops and pubs and restaurants make it to work as they can’t leave the kids at home alone? a number of posters have also mentioned that returning to school has had an improvement on both kid and parents mental health too i dont even have kids to be at school, or the hassle of them if they are home and yet i can see how it makes sense for me to give up a couple of cocktails, some dinners out and a workout if it allows them to continue with their face to face education my personal opinion is when people say they dont understand what i think they really mean is i dont agree because it doesnt suit me One last time. I havent said schools are to close. I have said the infection rates are high are in schools and universities As a response to this they have closed other businesses. They have done this in bolton and the rate has gone up. So maybe I'm just missing something but I think such a plan is a little flawed. okay clearly i am missing your point then ... if your point is not that schools should be closing instead of gyms and pubs then what it is it? and what would your alternative solution to the current flawed plan be? Ive no idea. In Bolton they have been in stage 3 (albeit not called that)and the cases have increased. The scientists have said the tier system wont work. Clearly it's a flawed policy but the gmnt are going for it anyway I think we are heading for a full lockdown and if we are, it makes sense to do it when the kids are off." The next school holidays will be Xmas... That's when they will do it  | |||
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people are great at saying what we are doing is crap without having alternative solutions ... had if ever occurred to anyone that maybe what we have is crap but all the options in a global pandemic are crap and its just trying to balance one pile of shit against another pile of shit
they say you can’t please all of the people all of the time ... i honestly think this is one of those cases where actually you cant please any of the people any of the time ... there is no yellow brick road we can take to oz ... every course of action is filled with just as many downsides and opposition as the next ... all we can do is get on with what we are handed
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They should be back after half term ,
Friday year 6 were sent home and now have 2 weeks isolation (1 of which will be half term)
Monday (yesterday) morning year 5 was closed down and today year 2
Our school is only isolating the bubble after a confirmed covid case.
We have different drop off and collection times, most parents wear masks, one way system and no groups of parents stood around | |||
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"Our primary school were doing really well until friday. Nursery bubble had 2 weeks isolating, came back and were sent home for another 2 weeks, that day at lunch They should be back after half term ,
Friday year 6 were sent home and now have 2 weeks isolation (1 of which will be half term)
Monday (yesterday) morning year 5 was closed down and today year 2
Our school is only isolating the bubble after a confirmed covid case.
We have different drop off and collection times, most parents wear masks, one way system and no groups of parents stood around "Yea this is what I see mostly, people abiding by regulations wether they like them or not, I'm not a believer in masks but I still wear one where compelled to, I am a vigorous hand washer and space giver, most of my friends are and yet we've still had 3 or 4 infections between us and thankfully all harmless. | |||
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" Education? What's that? "Something that's sadly been lost on a few people around here. | |||
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"Our primary school were doing really well until friday. Nursery bubble had 2 weeks isolating, came back and were sent home for another 2 weeks, that day at lunch They should be back after half term ,
Friday year 6 were sent home and now have 2 weeks isolation (1 of which will be half term)
Monday (yesterday) morning year 5 was closed down and today year 2
Our school is only isolating the bubble after a confirmed covid case.
We have different drop off and collection times, most parents wear masks, one way system and no groups of parents stood around
Yea this is what I see mostly, people abiding by regulations wether they like them or not, I'm not a believer in masks but I still wear one where compelled to, I am a vigorous hand washer and space giver, most of my friends are and yet we've still had 3 or 4 infections between us and thankfully all harmless. "Trust no-one  | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. Do university students have parents congregating at the gates,? What are you saying there, that the spread is because of parents congregating at the gates? The kids can't spread it amongst themselves but it has to come from a special parent gene in order to spread? " Someone said the rates in schools were due to parents congregating at the gate. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. Do university students have parents congregating at the gates,? What are you saying there, that the spread is because of parents congregating at the gates? The kids can't spread it amongst themselves but it has to come from a special parent gene in order to spread? Someone said the rates in schools were due to parents congregating at the gate." Just a small point if that was the case then surely primary school percentage of schools being sent home would be higher than secondary schools..... primary school children need to be dropped off / collected, secondary school children don’t and make their own way | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. Do university students have parents congregating at the gates,? What are you saying there, that the spread is because of parents congregating at the gates? The kids can't spread it amongst themselves but it has to come from a special parent gene in order to spread? Someone said the rates in schools were due to parents congregating at the gate." Of course it is... It's nothing to do with so many kids in a class mingling with each other for 6 hours.  | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. Do university students have parents congregating at the gates,? What are you saying there, that the spread is because of parents congregating at the gates? The kids can't spread it amongst themselves but it has to come from a special parent gene in order to spread? Someone said the rates in schools were due to parents congregating at the gate. Of course it is... It's nothing to do with so many kids in a class mingling with each other for 6 hours. "That's what I said. | |||
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"46% of secondary schools pupils have isolated due to covid Presumably all these kids have been breaking the rules and congregating after the pubs had kicked everyone out? Perhaps they caught it from their parents who were congregating in and after the pubs and taking it to school. Most obvious reason I'd have thought. Do university students have parents congregating at the gates,? What are you saying there, that the spread is because of parents congregating at the gates? The kids can't spread it amongst themselves but it has to come from a special parent gene in order to spread? Someone said the rates in schools were due to parents congregating at the gate. Just a small point if that was the case then surely primary school percentage of schools being sent home would be higher than secondary schools..... primary school children need to be dropped off / collected, secondary school children don’t and make their own way " Exactly | |||
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"Schools close here for two weeks and we have as close to full lockdown as possible, only essential work and shops open as from Friday. This for 2 weeks. The south is in a 6 week lockdown, BUT schools are NOT being closed. This will certainly offer some interesting data concerning how much spread happens through schools." Will be interesting to see how it plays out in Ireland. | |||
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