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"Having travelled to Liverpool last week it was noticeable the lack of mask wearing. Is it time to create area lockdowns for such areas and prevent them travelling South and spreading the disease outside of their areas "S'funny..I've seen most people wearing them. Fine by me..I've no intention of visiting the south. | |||
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"1 part of the country blaming another part. Well knock me down with a feather,I didn't see that coming." Yeah Lionel, bloody Scousers   | |||
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"1 part of the country blaming another part. Well knock me down with a feather,I didn't see that coming." Any area with higher figures ... let's face it there is a reason! | |||
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"1 part of the country blaming another part. Well knock me down with a feather,I didn't see that coming. Yeah Lionel, bloody Scousers " | |||
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"1 part of the country blaming another part. Well knock me down with a feather,I didn't see that coming. Any area with higher figures ... let's face it there is a reason!" What's the reason? | |||
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"1 part of the country blaming another part. Well knock me down with a feather,I didn't see that coming. Any area with higher figures ... let's face it there is a reason! What's the reason?" Mass stupidity ? | |||
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"1 part of the country blaming another part. Well knock me down with a feather,I didn't see that coming. Any area with higher figures ... let's face it there is a reason! What's the reason? Mass stupidity ?" Probally why london was hit The hardest when it began then? | |||
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"It's more about learning though , maybe Londoners are more abiding by the rules now and hence lower infection rates?" London is still by far the biggest hit region in the south | |||
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"Maybe more Londoners can work from home as they have office based jobs they can do online, whereas more Northerners work in factories and warehouses so they can't avoid mixing with others ? " Do you think the northerners also wear flat caps and all have whippets  | |||
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"It's more about learning though , maybe Londoners are more abiding by the rules now and hence lower infection rates? London is still by far the biggest hit region in the south " But nowhere near the North West and North East | |||
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"It's more about learning though , maybe Londoners are more abiding by the rules now and hence lower infection rates? London is still by far the biggest hit region in the south But nowhere near the North West and North East" Nope we seem to be the hardest hit now | |||
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"At the start of the pandemic, it was the south driving infection rates yet the whole country went into lockdown. The northern area I live in had bugger all Covid during the height of the thing in April/May. It's increased here now and so maybe we'll have lockdown again? Who knows? But why only us when we were locked down for the good of the whole nation earlier on? " At the beginning it was a wake up call to all of the uk Now it needs to be certain area's unfortunately looking like the north Some of the south have low infection rates(not all),it's better for the economy,which is already struggling and hasn't recovered from the full lockdown,to keep some area's that are low open as much as possible | |||
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" Do you think the northerners also wear flat caps and all have whippets" Of course I don't. I am a northerner myself. I have always lived in Leeds and am very proud of the city. | |||
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" Do you think the northerners also wear flat caps and all have whippets Of course I don't. I am a northerner myself. I have always lived in Leeds and am very proud of the city. " Main question though - do you have a whippet?! | |||
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" Main question though - do you have a whippet?! "I have a white cat. Could that be classed as a whippet in a dim light ? | |||
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" Main question though - do you have a whippet?!
I have a white cat. Could that be classed as a whippet in a dim light ? "Oh aye, and the lights are always dim oooop North | |||
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"1 part of the country blaming another part. Well knock me down with a feather,I didn't see that coming. Any area with higher figures ... let's face it there is a reason! What's the reason? Mass stupidity ?" Ha ha ha that’s a good one !!! Not | |||
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"At the start of the pandemic, it was the south driving infection rates yet the whole country went into lockdown. The northern area I live in had bugger all Covid during the height of the thing in April/May. It's increased here now and so maybe we'll have lockdown again? Who knows? But why only us when we were locked down for the good of the whole nation earlier on? " Probably because there was less known about it at the start than now. | |||
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"Having travelled to Liverpool last week it was noticeable the lack of mask wearing. Is it time to create area lockdowns for such areas and prevent them travelling South and spreading the disease outside of their areas "Thsts strange because I have spent the last 2 weeks in London and away down there again tomorrow and compared to Newcastle the mask wearing in London was none existent. | |||
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"Maybe more Londoners can work from home as they have office based jobs they can do online, whereas more Northerners work in factories and warehouses so they can't avoid mixing with others ? Do you think the northerners also wear flat caps and all have whippets "Its the lack of a ferret down the trousers that has seen the large covid spike up North as ferrets are known to ward it off. | |||
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"In fact, Cumbria especially the lake district have gone into local lockdown to stop tourism. So many from the south took the trip and get sent home. Police stopping most cars that aint from the area. " As it's only an advisory that would illegal for the Police to do. | |||
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"Having travelled to Liverpool last week it was noticeable the lack of mask wearing. Is it time to create area lockdowns for such areas and prevent them travelling South and spreading the disease outside of their areas
Thsts strange because I have spent the last 2 weeks in London and away down there again tomorrow and compared to Newcastle the mask wearing in London was none existent. " | |||
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"It's because northerners are friendly and sociable. Huggy and nice. Southerners are grumpy and avoid any kind of social interaction. Not even a smile on the Tube. " without a doubt . But sadly hugs are a thing of the past, presently | |||
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"Having travelled to Liverpool last week it was noticeable the lack of mask wearing. Is it time to create area lockdowns for such areas and prevent them travelling South and spreading the disease outside of their areas "No. The virus needs to spread so we gain immunity. Good news we’re seeing a rise in infections. Mask wearers also seem to forget the virus is airborne and can enter your eyes. | |||
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"Having travelled to Liverpool last week it was noticeable the lack of mask wearing. Is it time to create area lockdowns for such areas and prevent them travelling South and spreading the disease outside of their areas
No. The virus needs to spread so we gain immunity. Good news we’re seeing a rise in infections.
Mask wearers also seem to forget the virus is airborne and can enter your eyes. "The virus is not Airborne!! It is spread through Respiratory droplets. It enters eyes when those droplets are passed from hands for example direct to the eye. If it was airborne we would be seeing a lot higher infection rate! | |||
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"Having travelled to Liverpool last week it was noticeable the lack of mask wearing. Is it time to create area lockdowns for such areas and prevent them travelling South and spreading the disease outside of their areas
Thsts strange because I have spent the last 2 weeks in London and away down there again tomorrow and compared to Newcastle the mask wearing in London was none existent. "Apparently it doesn't exist London | |||
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"What happened to were all in this together. " Ha ha good one. | |||
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"Having travelled to Liverpool last week it was noticeable the lack of mask wearing. Is it time to create area lockdowns for such areas and prevent them travelling South and spreading the disease outside of their areas
No. The virus needs to spread so we gain immunity. Good news we’re seeing a rise in infections.
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The virus is not Airborne!! It is spread through Respiratory droplets. It enters eyes when those droplets are passed from hands for example direct to the eye. If it was airborne we would be seeing a lot higher infection rate!"And yet . . . pdate 23 July 2020 Mounting evidence suggests coronavirus is airborne — but health advice has not caught up. Governments are starting to change policies amid concerns that tiny droplets can carry SARS-CoV-2. And after months of denying the importance of this, the World Health Organization is reconsidering its stance. | |||
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"It's because northerners are friendly and sociable. Huggy and nice. Southerners are grumpy and avoid any kind of social interaction. Not even a smile on the Tube. "Fuck smiling on the tube you’ll get mugged  | |||
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"Having travelled to Liverpool last week it was noticeable the lack of mask wearing. Is it time to create area lockdowns for such areas and prevent them travelling South and spreading the disease outside of their areas "Good luck with that...like they stopped all the people who worked in London who wanted to hot foot it back up north to their family homes instead of house sharing in London when lockdown hit...oh they didn’t stop that did they  | |||
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"Having travelled to Liverpool last week it was noticeable the lack of mask wearing. Mask wearers also seem to forget the virus is airborne and can enter your eyes. The virus is not Airborne!! It is spread through Respiratory droplets. It enters eyes when those droplets are passed from hands for example direct to the eye. If it was airborne we would be seeing a lot higher infection rate! And yet . . . pdate 23 July 2020 Mounting evidence suggests coronavirus is airborne — but health advice has not caught up. Governments are starting to change policies amid concerns that tiny droplets can carry SARS-CoV-2. And after months of denying the importance of this, the World Health Organization is reconsidering its stance. " Hi Cat. Would love to see the source on this. As the second paragraph says it still needs to be carried in droplets. | |||
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"It's because northerners are friendly and sociable. Huggy and nice. Southerners are grumpy and avoid any kind of social interaction. Not even a smile on the Tube.
Fuck smiling on the tube you’ll get mugged "Could be worse you are not allowed to talk on trains in Japan. | |||
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"Having travelled to Liverpool last week it was noticeable the lack of mask wearing. Is it time to create area lockdowns for such areas and prevent them travelling South and spreading the disease outside of their areas
Good luck with that...like they stopped all the people who worked in London who wanted to hot foot it back up north to their family homes instead of house sharing in London when lockdown hit...oh they didn’t stop that did they "There were rules in place to stop it. No one was allowed to go to a second home or spend the night anyone else other than home. So they try to stop it but how do you police it. | |||
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"Having travelled to Liverpool last week it was noticeable the lack of mask wearing. Mask wearers also seem to forget the virus is airborne and can enter your eyes. The virus is not Airborne!! It is spread through Respiratory droplets. It enters eyes when those droplets are passed from hands for example direct to the eye. If it was airborne we would be seeing a lot higher infection rate! And yet . . . pdate 23 July 2020 Mounting evidence suggests coronavirus is airborne — but health advice has not caught up. Governments are starting to change policies amid concerns that tiny droplets can carry SARS-CoV-2. And after months of denying the importance of this, the World Health Organization is reconsidering its stance. Hi Cat. Would love to see the source on this. As the second paragraph says it still needs to be carried in droplets." Hi . . . just grab what I wrote and google it . . . it's in Nature Mag | |||
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"Having travelled to Liverpool last week it was noticeable the lack of mask wearing. Is it time to create area lockdowns for such areas and prevent them travelling South and spreading the disease outside of their areas
Thsts strange because I have spent the last 2 weeks in London and away down there again tomorrow and compared to Newcastle the mask wearing in London was none existent.
Apparently it doesn't exist London
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"It's because northerners are friendly and sociable. Huggy and nice. Southerners are grumpy and avoid any kind of social interaction. Not even a smile on the Tube.
Fuck smiling on the tube you’ll get mugged "When I first moved to London I tried talking to people on the tube.
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"Having travelled to Liverpool last week it was noticeable the lack of mask wearing. Is it time to create area lockdowns for such areas and prevent them travelling South and spreading the disease outside of their areas "Thats what they did in the Middle ages They also boarded sick people up in their homes | |||
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"It's because northerners are friendly and sociable. Huggy and nice. Southerners are grumpy and avoid any kind of social interaction. Not even a smile on the Tube.
Fuck smiling on the tube you’ll get mugged
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"Maybe more Londoners can work from home as they have office based jobs they can do online, whereas more Northerners work in factories and warehouses so they can't avoid mixing with others ? Do you think the northerners also wear flat caps and all have whippets " | |||
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" There were rules in place to stop it. No one was allowed to go to a second home or spend the night anyone else other than home. " Except Dominic Cummings | |||
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"It's because northerners are friendly and sociable. Huggy and nice. Southerners are grumpy and avoid any kind of social interaction. Not even a smile on the Tube.
Fuck smiling on the tube you’ll get mugged
When I first moved to London I tried talking to people on the tube.
That’s the bit I miss having random chats on the tube and watching the eyes go wide as they think you are nuts "Ash asked a man what he was reading the other day
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"Having travelled to Liverpool last week it was noticeable the lack of mask wearing. And yet . . . pdate 23 July 2020 Mounting evidence suggests coronavirus is airborne — but health advice has not caught up. Governments are starting to change policies amid concerns that tiny droplets can carry SARS-CoV-2. And after months of denying the importance of this, the World Health Organization is reconsidering its stance. Hi Cat. Would love to see the source on this. As the second paragraph says it still needs to be carried in droplets. Hi . . . just grab what I wrote and google it . . . it's in Nature Mag "Thanks Cat. Quote from source- "short-range aerosol transmission cannot be ruled out in crowded, poorly ventilated spaces" It still refers to aerosol transmission so therefore still needs liquid to transmit it. If it were truly airborne it can survive in the air and be carried on air currents. | |||
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"Having travelled to Liverpool last week it was noticeable the lack of mask wearing. And yet . . . pdate 23 July 2020 Mounting evidence suggests coronavirus is airborne — but health advice has not caught up. Governments are starting to change policies amid concerns that tiny droplets can carry SARS-CoV-2. And after months of denying the importance of this, the World Health Organization is reconsidering its stance. Hi Cat. Would love to see the source on this. As the second paragraph says it still needs to be carried in droplets. Hi . . . just grab what I wrote and google it . . . it's in Nature Mag
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Quote from source- "short-range aerosol transmission cannot be ruled out in crowded, poorly ventilated spaces"
It still refers to aerosol transmission so therefore still needs liquid to transmit it. If it were truly airborne it can survive in the air and be carried on air currents. " | |||
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"1 part of the country blaming another part. Well knock me down with a feather,I didn't see that coming." And you have joined us at halftime for this the British Bootlicking championships, team norf have been putting up a good fight so far but the mighty tongue of the souf has proven impossible to beat, another 45 minutes of solid cherry blossom fever coming up after a message from our sponsors... | |||
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"I know loads of people who normally live in London but moved back to parents or second homes when lock down happend and due to working from home haven't gone back so there can't actually be as many people living in London as there would normally." Its really quite at the moment. The tube is so quiet. | |||
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" There were rules in place to stop it. No one was allowed to go to a second home or spend the night anyone else other than home. Except Dominic Cummings" | |||
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"It's because northerners are friendly and sociable. Huggy and nice. Southerners are grumpy and avoid any kind of social interaction. Not even a smile on the Tube.
Fuck smiling on the tube you’ll get mugged
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That’s the bit I miss having random chats on the tube and watching the eyes go wide as they think you are nuts
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The looked terrified and just put his headphones in. "I don't understand this terror of speaking to people in our southern breathern. We had three people stop and speak to us on an hours walk earlier and everyone we passed said hello, we we the same to them. It's just normal here | |||
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"I know loads of people who normally live in London but moved back to parents or second homes when lock down happend and due to working from home haven't gone back so there can't actually be as many people living in London as there would normally." That’s probably how it travelled north in the beginning, mass exodus out at lockdown to be with family | |||
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"It's because northerners are friendly and sociable. Huggy and nice. Southerners are grumpy and avoid any kind of social interaction. Not even a smile on the Tube.
Fuck smiling on the tube you’ll get mugged
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That’s the bit I miss having random chats on the tube and watching the eyes go wide as they think you are nuts
Ash asked a man what he was reading the other day
The looked terrified and just put his headphones in.
I don't understand this terror of speaking to people in our southern breathern. We had three people stop and speak to us on an hours walk earlier and everyone we passed said hello, we we the same to them. It's just normal here "I'm not used to it either. Its taken a lot of getting used to. | |||
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"Having travelled to Liverpool last week it was noticeable the lack of mask wearing. Is it time to create area lockdowns for such areas and prevent them travelling South and spreading the disease outside of their areas "Sadly true the city is its own worse enemy | |||
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"It's more about learning though , maybe Londoners are more abiding by the rules now and hence lower infection rates? London is still by far the biggest hit region in the south " Please stop defending Liverpool they are there own worse enemy and even though you may be doing the right things the idiots are stopping your freedom not the government face the facts | |||
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"It's more about learning though , maybe Londoners are more abiding by the rules now and hence lower infection rates? London is still by far the biggest hit region in the south Please stop defending Liverpool they are there own worse enemy and even though you may be doing the right things the idiots are stopping your freedom not the government face the facts" Exactly and you can't compare London to another city. London has a population of 10 million thats roughly the same as N Ireland, Scotland and Wales put together. | |||
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"It's more about learning though , maybe Londoners are more abiding by the rules now and hence lower infection rates? London is still by far the biggest hit region in the south Please stop defending Liverpool they are there own worse enemy and even though you may be doing the right things the idiots are stopping your freedom not the government face the facts Exactly and you can't compare London to another city. London has a population of 10 million thats roughly the same as N Ireland, Scotland and Wales put together. " Yep people are comparing the rest of the south to the north | |||
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"It does not matter why, it does not matter how fair it is, or is not. All that matters is the Boris and his army of northern hating tory MP's have decided what is going to happen. Boris does what he wants, he does not care about me and you, he does not care about the scientific evidence, he publishes figures that support his arguments and supresses ones that do not (like all politicians); there are fewer tory voters in the north fewer companies who support the tories based there, so why would he care. He can do whatever he wants and no one can argue; blame all the people, north or south who voted for him and his marry band, they are the issue huge majority, no opposition, no checks or controls just absolute power to one man to do what HE wants !" I think you have a man crush on Boris and love him really | |||
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"It does not matter why, it does not matter how fair it is, or is not. All that matters is the Boris and his army of northern hating tory MP's have decided what is going to happen. Boris does what he wants, he does not care about me and you, he does not care about the scientific evidence, he publishes figures that support his arguments and supresses ones that do not (like all politicians); there are fewer tory voters in the north fewer companies who support the tories based there, so why would he care. He can do whatever he wants and no one can argue; blame all the people, north or south who voted for him and his marry band, they are the issue huge majority, no opposition, no checks or controls just absolute power to one man to do what HE wants ! I think you have a man crush on Boris and love him really "My crush is on a man who employs people!  | |||
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"You northern disease ridden stupid Covidiots..... give it a rest and accept you’re killers of old people.... it’s clear, it’s fact, evidence tells you! And it’s not like anyone fucked figures up before.... " | |||
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"You northern disease ridden stupid Covidiots..... give it a rest and accept you’re killers of old people.... it’s clear, it’s fact, evidence tells you! And it’s not like anyone fucked figures up before.... " Just remember, Wigan is in GM, like it or not, and you lot won't wiggle out of any region wide restrictions this time because its not so cushty over in the land of pies at the mo. In fact, you've crept above us here in Covid capital now. Happy isolating | |||
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"You northern disease ridden stupid Covidiots..... give it a rest and accept you’re killers of old people.... it’s clear, it’s fact, evidence tells you! And it’s not like anyone fucked figures up before.... Just remember, Wigan is in GM, like it or not, and you lot won't wiggle out of any region wide restrictions this time because its not so cushty over in the land of pies at the mo. In fact, you've crept above us here in Covid capital now. Happy isolating "May I direct you to the last line of the post you replied to xx | |||
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"You northern disease ridden stupid Covidiots..... give it a rest and accept you’re killers of old people.... it’s clear, it’s fact, evidence tells you! And it’s not like anyone fucked figures up before.... Just remember, Wigan is in GM, like it or not, and you lot won't wiggle out of any region wide restrictions this time because its not so cushty over in the land of pies at the mo. In fact, you've crept above us here in Covid capital now. Happy isolating "It sounds like it's just liverpool which is going to get slammed so the wools will be ok | |||
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"You northern disease ridden stupid Covidiots..... give it a rest and accept you’re killers of old people.... it’s clear, it’s fact, evidence tells you! And it’s not like anyone fucked figures up before.... Just remember, Wigan is in GM, like it or not, and you lot won't wiggle out of any region wide restrictions this time because its not so cushty over in the land of pies at the mo. In fact, you've crept above us here in Covid capital now. Happy isolating
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"It does not matter why, it does not matter how fair it is, or is not. All that matters is the Boris and his army of northern hating tory MP's have decided what is going to happen. Boris does what he wants, he does not care about me and you, he does not care about the scientific evidence, he publishes figures that support his arguments and supresses ones that do not (like all politicians); there are fewer tory voters in the north fewer companies who support the tories based there, so why would he care. He can do whatever he wants and no one can argue; blame all the people, north or south who voted for him and his marry band, they are the issue huge majority, no opposition, no checks or controls just absolute power to one man to do what HE wants !" well i live in scottish central belt and the snp just locked us down ... not everything is about politics .., some are literally life and death | |||
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"It does not matter why, it does not matter how fair it is, or is not. All that matters is the Boris and his army of northern hating tory MP's have decided what is going to happen. Boris does what he wants, he does not care about me and you, he does not care about the scientific evidence, he publishes figures that support his arguments and supresses ones that do not (like all politicians); there are fewer tory voters in the north fewer companies who support the tories based there, so why would he care. He can do whatever he wants and no one can argue; blame all the people, north or south who voted for him and his marry band, they are the issue huge majority, no opposition, no checks or controls just absolute power to one man to do what HE wants ! well i live in scottish central belt and the snp just locked us down ... not everything is about politics .., some are literally life and death " No politics to see here...  ... I’ll move on | |||
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"It does not matter why, it does not matter how fair it is, or is not. All that matters is the Boris and his army of northern hating tory MP's have decided what is going to happen. Boris does what he wants, he does not care about me and you, he does not care about the scientific evidence, he publishes figures that support his arguments and supresses ones that do not (like all politicians); there are fewer tory voters in the north fewer companies who support the tories based there, so why would he care. He can do whatever he wants and no one can argue; blame all the people, north or south who voted for him and his marry band, they are the issue huge majority, no opposition, no checks or controls just absolute power to one man to do what HE wants ! well i live in scottish central belt and the snp just locked us down ... not everything is about politics .., some are literally life and death " At last a bit of sense here | |||
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"Nottingham and Strabane are top of the league.. Is Nottingham being lockdowned?" There was talk earlier in the week that the local council were going to introduce stricter measures before waiting for central government to make the call | |||
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"Nottingham and Strabane are top of the league.. But Merseyside is going straight into super duper mega lockdown (allegedly). Makes perfect sense
It's puzzling me just why a lot of Tory ministers constituencies are higher than some of the earlier locked down areas in the north several weeks ago and nothing..
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It's puzzling me just why a lot of Tory ministers constituencies are higher than some of the earlier locked down areas in the north several weeks ago and nothing..
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"Maybe more Londoners can work from home as they have office based jobs they can do online, whereas more Northerners work in factories and warehouses so they can't avoid mixing with others ? Do you think the northerners also wear flat caps and all have whippets "Ha ha ha ha , ive just come in after scrubbing me door step and read that. | |||
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I can’t answer your questions as not my areas, maybe someone local could advise you. "well the point is its not true that local government cannot implement a stronger restriction than westminister ... it is already happening in places and as with the glasgow vs edinburgh outdoor drinking rules the ability has been in place for many years before covid | |||
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"Nottingham and Strabane are top of the league.. Is Nottingham being lockdowned? There was talk earlier in the week that the local council were going to introduce stricter measures before waiting for central government to make the call The local council doesn't have the power to enforce or demand any higher lockdown than central Govt mandates for the area though, so unless the Govt mandates something extra for Nottingham, anything the council puts in place would be a recommendation only. At least that's how I understand things. That’s true all the council can do is advise it’s residents, ie don’t mix households etc, still needs government to enforce it who issues venues with their food and alcohol licenses? is that not local government? take those away and that’s it they are closed if local government have no powers how did they do it in newcastle? why can you drink in the street in edinburgh but not in glasgow? That is very drastic removing a premises hospitality licence, and then they have to reapply for it
I can’t answer your questions as not my areas, maybe someone local could advise you.
well the point is its not true that local government cannot implement a stronger restriction than westminister ... it is already happening in places and as with the glasgow vs edinburgh outdoor drinking rules the ability has been in place for many years before covid "Scotland follow different rules / laws than England, they have their own parliament and set their own laws. London general assembly set laws that only affect London, ie drinking on all London transport is banned. | |||
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I can’t answer your questions as not my areas, maybe someone local could advise you.
well the point is its not true that local government cannot implement a stronger restriction than westminister ... it is already happening in places and as with the glasgow vs edinburgh outdoor drinking rules the ability has been in place for many years before covid
Scotland follow different rules / laws than England, they have their own parliament and set their own laws.
London general assembly set laws that only affect London, ie drinking on all London transport is banned. "im not a complete moron and am aware that we have 2 different parliaments ... even before the devolved parliament scotland had their own law system i am talking about local government and licensing powers that they have because someone said local government had no power to put anything in place that the government hadn’t mandated for the entire country ... that is just not true oh and newcastle isn’t in scotland | |||
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"Nottingham and Strabane are top of the league.. Is Nottingham being lockdowned? There was talk earlier in the week that the local council were going to introduce stricter measures before waiting for central government to make the call The local council doesn't have the power to enforce or demand any higher lockdown than central Govt mandates for the area though, so unless the Govt mandates something extra for Nottingham, anything the council puts in place would be a recommendation only. At least that's how I understand things. That’s true all the council can do is advise it’s residents, ie don’t mix households etc, still needs government to enforce it who issues venues with their food and alcohol licenses? is that not local government? take those away and that’s it they are closed if local government have no powers how did they do it in newcastle? why can you drink in the street in edinburgh but not in glasgow? The Scottish Govt has different powers though, far more wide ranging than any English council when it comes to the Coronavirus situation. Likewise with licensing. They probably can revoke all alcohol licenses for a period, but they can't close businesses (unless they break licensing laws) and they certainly can't unilaterally close non licensed venues like cafés or restrict opening hours. They also can't impose travel restrictions in the way the Welsh Govt has, as they don't have those powers. Without the central Govt mandate, English councils have little additional power. licenses do not just apply to alcohol selling venues ... private members clubs, events spaces and food premises also hold licenses so yes they could just unilaterally close cafes if they wanted to also we dont have a separate government in edinburgh and glasgow ... those licensing decisions have always differed in the cities as decides by the councils " Our cafés etc have licenses in terms of planning/building use, yes, but nothing I'm aware of that a local council could use to demand immediate closure, unless they were infringing environmental health regulations. The Coronavirus Act doesn't give additional powers to local Govt and again, it's my understanding that the current restrictions in Glasgow and Edinburgh are being implemented by the Scottish devolved Government, rather than the individual councils, although now its mandated by the government, the councils can enforce it. The devolved Governments in Scotland, Wales and NI have devolved powers surrounding how to act re: coronavirus, hence the vastly differing policies on things like quarantine after travel etc. The leader of Nottingham Council was on the news on Friday saying he'd welcome the powers to make local decisions, but that he simply did not have those powers. The same was repeated in Leicester when they were put into separate measures and I know here, when we had higher sanctions, it was the same. | |||
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"At the start of the pandemic, it was the south driving infection rates yet the whole country went into lockdown. The northern area I live in had bugger all Covid during the height of the thing in April/May. It's increased here now and so maybe we'll have lockdown again? Who knows? But why only us when we were locked down for the good of the whole nation earlier on? " Exactly | |||
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"Nottingham and Strabane are top of the league.. But Merseyside is going straight into super duper mega lockdown (allegedly). Makes perfect sense
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"Nottingham the worst hit area on the country and just on stage 2." They published a document today giving a breakdown of infections by age and the north has more older people testing positive so that could be the logic ? | |||
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"Nottingham the worst hit area on the country and just on stage 2. I’m in the north east.. I have no clue if we are in tier 2 or tier 3! .... still discussing and deciding " It was explained that only Liverpool city will be in Tier 3 at the onset. Areas currently subject to further measures, eg North East, will be in Tier 2 | |||
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"Nottingham the worst hit area on the country and just on stage 2. They published a document today giving a breakdown of infections by age and the north has more older people testing positive so that could be the logic ?" Thats exactly it. Most of Nottingham's infections are students, over 1500 at one of the unis, and they are not in need of hospitalisation. | |||
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"Nottingham the worst hit area on the country and just on stage 2. I’m in the north east.. I have no clue if we are in tier 2 or tier 3! .... still discussing and deciding It was explained that only Liverpool city will be in Tier 3 at the onset. Areas currently subject to further measures, eg North East, will be in Tier 2" In which case... as a weird quirk... the restrictions in the north east will loosen slightly as at the moment people aren’t allowed to meet in gardens, but under tier 2 from Wednesday we will..... yay for loopholes (being facetious) | |||
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"Nottingham the worst hit area on the country and just on stage 2. I’m in the north east.. I have no clue if we are in tier 2 or tier 3! .... still discussing and deciding It was explained that only Liverpool city will be in Tier 3 at the onset. Areas currently subject to further measures, eg North East, will be in Tier 2 In which case... as a weird quirk... the restrictions in the north east will loosen slightly as at the moment people aren’t allowed to meet in gardens, but under tier 2 from Wednesday we will..... yay for loopholes (being facetious)"I did notice that | |||
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"Nottingham the worst hit area on the country and just on stage 2. I’m in the north east.. I have no clue if we are in tier 2 or tier 3! .... still discussing and deciding It was explained that only Liverpool city will be in Tier 3 at the onset. Areas currently subject to further measures, eg North East, will be in Tier 2 In which case... as a weird quirk... the restrictions in the north east will loosen slightly as at the moment people aren’t allowed to meet in gardens, but under tier 2 from Wednesday we will..... yay for loopholes (being facetious)"Apparently this was something that has been agreed with various local leaders who argued that people were meeting in homes contrary to restrictions. It’s hoped that by allowing them to meet in gardens, it will help prevent this. | |||
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"For areas that either cannot comprehend the rules or choose to ignore them yes it should result in both sanctions and prevention to areas that have lower infection figures . "So they'll have to shutdown Soho then. | |||
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"The more everyone keeps to the rules the quicker we will get through this. I think we have all had enough but unfortunately stupid behaviour is keeping this going ....."
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"The more everyone keeps to the rules the quicker we will get through this. I think we have all had enough but unfortunately stupid behaviour is keeping this going ....." like kanye west. was in la last tuesday and then in london on friday. the law states visitors from the usa must self isolate for 14 days on arrival in the uk. he didnt and couldnt careless, he even has children with him. people like him deliberately break the law but if you have a dinner party with 7 the police may break your front door down and fine you x amount. mr west wa reported to the met police but as per usual they did fuck all so there is your answer. | |||
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"Quite strange you can only catch covid in a boozer where you cant Get a mixed grill. " Okay. One last time. The thinking behind it is that . . . 1. People are much less likely to drink to excess in a Restaurant therefore less likely to breach their own common-sense rules and approach to social distancing. 2. They are also much less likely to say to each other . . . 'Wow that was a great Curry let's have a House Party co's the Restaurant is shut'. If you didn't exclude News that doesn't suits the answer or the Political outcome that you want, then you haven't heard the News at all. | |||
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"Quite strange you can only catch covid in a boozer where you cant Get a mixed grill. Okay. One last time. The thinking behind it is that . . . 1. People are much less likel y to drink to excess in a Restaurant therefore less likely to breach their own common-sense rules and approach to social distancing. 2. They are also much less likely to say to each other . . . 'Wow that was a great Curry let's have a House Party co's the Restaurant is shut'. If you didn't exclude News that doesn't suits the answer or the Political outcome that you want, then you haven't heard the News at all. "No 1 makes no sense as to pubs which sell food and pubs which dont. No 2 is just insane. | |||
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"Quite strange you can only catch covid in a boozer where you cant Get a mixed grill. Okay. One last time. The thinking behind it is that . . . 1. People are much less likel y to drink to excess in a Restaurant therefore less likely to breach their own common-sense rules and approach to social distancing. 2. They are also much less likely to say to each other . . . 'Wow that was a great Curry let's have a House Party co's the Restaurant is shut'. If you didn't exclude News that doesn't suits the answer or the Political outcome that you want, then you haven't heard the News at all.
No 1 makes no sense as to pubs which sell food and pubs which dont.
No 2 is just insane."Its a balancing act mate what would you prefer shut everything down or maybe keep everything open? | |||
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"Quite strange you can only catch covid in a boozer where you cant Get a mixed grill. Okay. One last time. The thinking behind it is that . . . 1. People are much less likel y to drink to excess in a Restaurant therefore less likely to breach their own common-sense rules and approach to social distancing. 2. They are also much less likely to say to each other . . . 'Wow that was a great Curry let's have a House Party co's the Restaurant is shut'. If you didn't exclude News that doesn't suits the answer or the Political outcome that you want, then you haven't heard the News at all.
No 1 makes no sense as to pubs which sell food and pubs which dont.
No 2 is just insane.Its a balancing act mate what would you prefer shut everything down or maybe keep everything open? "I dont get the science between keeping open and pub where you can get nachos and closing one where you can just get s bag of nuts. | |||
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"Quite strange you can only catch covid in a boozer where you cant Get a mixed grill. Okay. One last time. The thinking behind it is that . . . 1. People are much less likel y to drink to excess in a Restaurant therefore less likely to breach their own common-sense rules and approach to social distancing. 2. They are also much less likely to say to each other . . . 'Wow that was a great Curry let's have a House Party co's the Restaurant is shut'. If you didn't exclude News that doesn't suits the answer or the Political outcome that you want, then you haven't heard the News at all.
No 1 makes no sense as to pubs which sell food and pubs which dont.
No 2 is just insane.Its a balancing act mate what would you prefer shut everything down or maybe keep everything open?
I dont get the science between keeping open and pub where you can get nachos and closing one where you can just get s bag of nuts."As i said before you either shut everything or keep everything open if you try to balance the two then there has to be a line, that happens to be the line im sure there has been some clever people working on the data to come up with that or do you think they just put some ideas in a hat and pick one. | |||
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"Quite strange you can only catch covid in a boozer where you cant Get a mixed grill. Okay. One last time. The thinking behind it is that . . . 1. People are much less likel y to drink to excess in a Restaurant therefore less likely to breach their own common-sense rules and approach to social distancing. 2. They are also much less likely to say to each other . . . 'Wow that was a great Curry let's have a House Party co's the Restaurant is shut'. If you didn't exclude News that doesn't suits the answer or the Political outcome that you want, then you haven't heard the News at all.
No 1 makes no sense as to pubs which sell food and pubs which dont.
No 2 is just insane.Its a balancing act mate what would you prefer shut everything down or maybe keep everything open?
I dont get the science between keeping open and pub where you can get nachos and closing one where you can just get s bag of nuts.As i said before you either shut everything or keep everything open if you try to balance the two then there has to be a line, that happens to be the line im sure there has been some clever people working on the data to come up with that or do you think they just put some ideas in a hat and pick one. "You lost me at clever. See the gym thread. | |||
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"Quite strange you can only catch covid in a boozer where you cant Get a mixed grill. Okay. One last time. The thinking behind it is that . . . 1. People are much less likel y to drink to excess in a Restaurant therefore less likely to breach their own common-sense rules and approach to social distancing. 2. They are also much less likely to say to each other . . . 'Wow that was a great Curry let's have a House Party co's the Restaurant is shut'. If you didn't exclude News that doesn't suits the answer or the Political outcome that you want, then you haven't heard the News at all.
No 1 makes no sense as to pubs which sell food and pubs which dont.
No 2 is just insane.Its a balancing act mate what would you prefer shut everything down or maybe keep everything open?
I dont get the science between keeping open and pub where you can get nachos and closing one where you can just get s bag of nuts.As i said before you either shut everything or keep everything open if you try to balance the two then there has to be a line, that happens to be the line im sure there has been some clever people working on the data to come up with that or do you think they just put some ideas in a hat and pick one.
You lost me at clever.
See the gym thread. "This is not new its going on in half of Europe so unlike you i do believe there must be some logic in it. | |||
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" I dont get the science between keeping open and pub where you can get nachos and closing one where you can just get s bag of nuts." In the Pub where they sell Peanuts you can order 7 pints as well. Here's the clever bit Lionel, in the Pub that is also operating a Restaurant you can ONLY order a drink with your meal. Leave it to the Boffins . . . to work this stuff out. | |||
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" I dont get the science between keeping open and pub where you can get nachos and closing one where you can just get s bag of nuts. In the Pub where they sell Peanuts you can order 7 pints as well. Here's the clever bit Lionel, in the Pub that is also operating a Restaurant you can ONLY order a drink with your meal. Leave it to the Boffins . . . to work this stuff out. " | |||
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" I dont get the science between keeping open and pub where you can get nachos and closing one where you can just get s bag of nuts. In the Pub where they sell Peanuts you can order 7 pints as well. Here's the clever bit Lionel, in the Pub that is also operating a Restaurant you can ONLY order a drink with your meal. Leave it to the Boffins . . . to work this stuff out. "So what you are saying it people are going to go the pub and have 1 drink? Serously? | |||
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" I dont get the science between keeping open and pub where you can get nachos and closing one where you can just get s bag of nuts. In the Pub where they sell Peanuts you can order 7 pints as well. Here's the clever bit Lionel, in the Pub that is also operating a Restaurant you can ONLY order a drink with your meal. Leave it to the Boffins . . . to work this stuff out.
So what you are saying it people are going to go the pub and have 1 drink?
Serously?"The serving of alcohol is commensurate with the duration of your meal. When was the last time you went for a meal and drank 7 pints? | |||
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"As for the boffins..we are certainly The envy of the world so far so they must be doing a bang up job." And you know because you are THE 'Expert' and can advise that the advice they give is just plain wrong. Ps. The whole World is suffering from 'Expert' fatigue. When we all should be profiting by from ordinary people using common sense and keeping plain and simple social distancing rules until a workable vaccine is found. | |||
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" I dont get the science between keeping open and pub where you can get nachos and closing one where you can just get s bag of nuts. In the Pub where they sell Peanuts you can order 7 pints as well. Here's the clever bit Lionel, in the Pub that is also operating a Restaurant you can ONLY order a drink with your meal. Leave it to the Boffins . . . to work this stuff out.
So what you are saying it people are going to go the pub and have 1 drink?
Serously?
The serving of alcohol is commensurate with the duration of your meal.
When was the last time you went for a meal and drank 7 pints?"The other week. You seriously think people are going to have a meal and a pint and go home? Really? | |||
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"As for the boffins..we are certainly The envy of the world so far so they must be doing a bang up job. And you know because you are THE 'Expert' and can advise that the advice they give is just plain wrong. Ps. The whole World is suffering from 'Expert' fatigue. When we all should be profiting by from ordinary people using common sense and keeping plain and simple social distancing rules until a workable vaccine is found." Ahh back to the old 'well what you do argument ' Good times. Maybe we shut the forum and let boris and co get on with it? | |||
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"As for the boffins..we are certainly The envy of the world so far so they must be doing a bang up job." As i said before mate these measures are going on in your beloved eu too so guess their boffins are no better then. | |||
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"As for the boffins..we are certainly The envy of the world so far so they must be doing a bang up job.As i said before mate these measures are going on in your beloved eu too so guess their boffins are no better then." How have Germany handled the crises? | |||
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" Ahh back to the old 'well what you do argument ' " You can argue it all you like Lionel, but COVID is spread by people. And people's behaviour alone. We all know what we need to do to help stop it's spread. And we have known for the longest time already. | |||
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"As for the boffins..we are certainly The envy of the world so far so they must be doing a bang up job.As i said before mate these measures are going on in your beloved eu too so guess their boffins are no better then. How have Germany handled the crises?" How have France, Spain, Belgium, Italy etc. Try looking outside the uk and see how many other countries have the same only drink with food local restrictions which is what you cant seem to understand and think its unique to England. | |||
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" Ahh back to the old 'well what you do argument ' You can argue it all you like Lionel, but COVID is spread by people. And people's behaviour alone. We all know what we need to do to help stop it's spread. And we have known for the longest time already." Of course its spread by people. It's an infectious airborne disease. What do we know? | |||
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"As for the boffins..we are certainly The envy of the world so far so they must be doing a bang up job.As i said before mate these measures are going on in your beloved eu too so guess their boffins are no better then. How have Germany handled the crises?How have France, Spain, Belgium, Italy etc. Try looking outside the uk and see how many other countries have the same only drink with food local restrictions which is what you cant seem to understand and think its unique to England. " Surely they have a different culture in europe? They don't really have the 'local pub' culture we have here. And if we are following their path why do we have one of the worst rates in Europe? | |||
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"As for the boffins..we are certainly The envy of the world so far so they must be doing a bang up job.As i said before mate these measures are going on in your beloved eu too so guess their boffins are no better then. How have Germany handled the crises?How have France, Spain, Belgium, Italy etc. Try looking outside the uk and see how many other countries have the same only drink with food local restrictions which is what you cant seem to understand and think its unique to England. Surely they have a different culture in europe? They don't really have the 'local pub' culture we have here. And if we are following their path why do we have one of the worst rates in Europe?" are we really back to the worse rate in europe debate? i thought that was done to death. | |||
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"Doncaster is now at tier 2" I think a lot of places will be moved onto stage 3 in the winter. Let's see what the reaction is then. | |||
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"As for the boffins..we are certainly The envy of the world so far so they must be doing a bang up job.As i said before mate these measures are going on in your beloved eu too so guess their boffins are no better then. How have Germany handled the crises?How have France, Spain, Belgium, Italy etc. Try looking outside the uk and see how many other countries have the same only drink with food local restrictions which is what you cant seem to understand and think its unique to England. Surely they have a different culture in europe? They don't really have the 'local pub' culture we have here. And if we are following their path why do we have one of the worst rates in Europe?" No actually they don't have a 'different culture' with 'pub's' in any of the countries you mention. I have spent lots of time in all of them except Belgium and people get just as pissed and party like as we do, In Germany except for the Architecture of the Bar you were in and people all speaking German it feels exactly like at home. And Yes. we have 'ONE' of the worst rates - but that says more about us as individuals not doing what we shoud be doing to protect each other. | |||
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"As for the boffins..we are certainly The envy of the world so far so they must be doing a bang up job.As i said before mate these measures are going on in your beloved eu too so guess their boffins are no better then. How have Germany handled the crises?How have France, Spain, Belgium, Italy etc. Try looking outside the uk and see how many other countries have the same only drink with food local restrictions which is what you cant seem to understand and think its unique to England. " France - are abandoning their contact tracing app (was only downloaded 2.6m million times) despite infections rising to over 20,000 daily. Germany - merkel wrestling with the federal states over a ban on internal travel. Doesnt matter what the results are for any of the other countries - its clear the challenges we face and finding a balance are being felt by other countries in the same way. | |||
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