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"Well. Lionel. There are some people that don't believe Liverpool Won the Premier League in 2020. I distinctly heard thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands . . shouting . . . 'I don't believe it! I don't believe it!' (mainly Man City fans lol) "Ha ha  | |||
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"I've heard or read 3 people say in the last 24 hours that it doesnt exist. Whilst I fully understand people are suffering..mentally,econoinacally etc it still seems a bit of a jump to deny its existence. "  i can only assume denial that lets them apply blame is a coping mechanism | |||
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"I think people spend too much time online looking at nonsense websites spouting ridiculous theories , Facebook stats and not thinking coherantly for themselves. "Most definitely xx | |||
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" i can only assume denial that lets them apply blame is a coping mechanism "Yes. Entirely agree. Totally understandable but in the long-term more it's damaging because the truth sits in a space inside you eating it's way out.  | |||
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"No one noticed the world as stopped turning? No wars , no famine, no terrorists attacks or natural disasters? Seems the news as nothing to report other than covid . Complete bollox if you ask me " Complete bollox? Tell that to the umpteen thousands of people who've lost loved ones and friends to Covid 19 throughout the world. E | |||
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"No one noticed the world as stopped turning? No wars , no famine, no terrorists attacks or natural disasters? Seems the news as nothing to report other than covid . Complete bollox if you ask me " You need to pay better attention to the news. | |||
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"No one noticed the world as stopped turning? No wars , no famine, no terrorists attacks or natural disasters? Seems the news as nothing to report other than covid . Complete bollox if you ask me " Apart from war in Yemen (saudi Arabia ) Conflict in Armenia and Azerbaijan Why would a virus stop a natural disaster ? | |||
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"Keep seeing this North / South Divide thing going around What exactly does it mean?" North stricter lockdown The south left untouched. | |||
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"Keep seeing this North / South Divide thing going around What exactly does it mean?" I was wondering this too too I though maybe she was Irish til I saw Blackpool | |||
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"No one noticed the world as stopped turning? No wars , no famine, no terrorists attacks or natural disasters? Seems the news as nothing to report other than covid . Complete bollox if you ask me Apart from war in Yemen (saudi Arabia ) Conflict in Armenia and Azerbaijan Why would a virus stop a natural disaster ?" Not saying it as  saying it's not news now | |||
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"No one noticed the world as stopped turning? No wars , no famine, no terrorists attacks or natural disasters? Seems the news as nothing to report other than covid . Complete bollox if you ask me Complete bollox? Tell that to the umpteen thousands of people who've lost loved ones and friends to Covid 19 throughout the world. E" I think she just means that the media are showing us absolutely nothing but covid all the time. It's like nothing else matters anymore. Global warming. Cancer. Pizza gate haha it's all gone | |||
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"Keep seeing this North / South Divide thing going around What exactly does it mean? North stricter lockdown The south left untouched." Newcastle had 1453. Cases last week, That's 484 cases per 100,000. Liverpool had 2747 Cases last week, that's 555.2 cases per 100,000. Any Area in London has an average of 250 Cases last week and around 60 (avg) per 100,000. That is a huge difference between Northern and London. | |||
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"No one noticed the world as stopped turning? No wars , no famine, no terrorists attacks or natural disasters? Seems the news as nothing to report other than covid . Complete bollox if you ask me Apart from war in Yemen (saudi Arabia ) Conflict in Armenia and Azerbaijan Why would a virus stop a natural disaster ? Not saying it as saying it's not news now "I think cos covid is the big issue right now. Everything else has been relegated. Still a big jump to deny its existence. | |||
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"Keep seeing this North / South Divide thing going around What exactly does it mean? North stricter lockdown The south left untouched. Newcastle had 1453. Cases last week, That's 484 cases per 100,000. Liverpool had 2747 Cases last week, that's 555.2 cases per 100,000. Any Area in London has an average of 250 Cases last week and around 60 (avg) per 100,000. That is a huge difference between Northern and London." Just saying why there is a divide | |||
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"Keep seeing this North / South Divide thing going around What exactly does it mean? North stricter lockdown The south left untouched. Newcastle had 1453. Cases last week, That's 484 cases per 100,000. Liverpool had 2747 Cases last week, that's 555.2 cases per 100,000. Any Area in London has an average of 250 Cases last week and around 60 (avg) per 100,000. That is a huge difference between Northern and London. Just saying why there is a divide " Me too.  | |||
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"The North of England never gets the help it deserves ...London rules even to the point of lock downs ....not in my back garden it seems ...North //South divide " The politicians are fuming up here. | |||
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"Keep seeing this North / South Divide thing going around What exactly does it mean? North stricter lockdown The south left untouched." ok, so who's fault is it then? | |||
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"Keep seeing this North / South Divide thing going around What exactly does it mean? North stricter lockdown The south left untouched. ok, so who's fault is it then?" Who's fault is the virus? | |||
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"Keep seeing this North / South Divide thing going around What exactly does it mean? North stricter lockdown The south left untouched. ok, so who's fault is it then?" The labs in China haha. Never forget the basics  | |||
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"The North of England never gets the help it deserves ...London rules even to the point of lock downs ....not in my back garden it seems ...North //South divide " So do you believe that areas with comparatively low infection rates should be subject to the same measures as those with high infection rates? | |||
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"Once again, Newcastle had 1453. Cases last week, That's 484 cases per 100,000. Liverpool had 2747 Cases last week, that's 555.2 cases per 100,000. Any Area in London has an average of 250 Cases last week and around 60 (avg) per 100,000. That is a huge difference between Northern and London. Arguing Politics is entirely another matter, COVID-19 isn't a Politician. It's just a fact like the figures above." When you say any area of London.. is that london as a whole? | |||
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"Keep seeing this North / South Divide thing going around What exactly does it mean? North stricter lockdown The south left untouched. ok, so who's fault is it then? Who's fault is the virus?" We know where it has come from and you know that. Why is the spread of the virus happening at a faster and higher rate in the North, than it is in the South. | |||
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"Keep seeing this North / South Divide thing going around What exactly does it mean? North stricter lockdown The south left untouched. Newcastle had 1453. Cases last week, That's 484 cases per 100,000. Liverpool had 2747 Cases last week, that's 555.2 cases per 100,000. Any Area in London has an average of 250 Cases last week and around 60 (avg) per 100,000. That is a huge difference between Northern and London." Dont hit them with reasons some just like to bang on about a north south divide. | |||
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"Once again, Newcastle had 1453. Cases last week, That's 484 cases per 100,000. Liverpool had 2747 Cases last week, that's 555.2 cases per 100,000. Any Area in London has an average of 250 Cases last week and around 60 (avg) per 100,000. That is a huge difference between Northern and London. Arguing Politics is entirely another matter, COVID-19 isn't a Politician. It's just a fact like the figures above." Keep saying it, someone will understand eventually.
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"Once again, Newcastle had 1453. Cases last week, That's 484 cases per 100,000. Liverpool had 2747 Cases last week, that's 555.2 cases per 100,000. Any Area in London has an average of 250 Cases last week and around 60 (avg) per 100,000. That is a huge difference between Northern and London. Arguing Politics is entirely another matter, COVID-19 isn't a Politician. It's just a fact like the figures above. When you say any area of London.. is that london as a whole? " What I did was use my mouse to hover over borough areas and see what each case list was and also per 100,000. Then I went and did the same with Liverpool and Newcastle. The Liverpool and Newcastle give a total figure but London is divided up into its Boroughs on the map (so you don't get a whole of London figure. I also averaged up not down. But it would also show that the average across London as a whole is much lower than the any Northern City under the current 'proposed' restrictions. Here is a link to the Map (scroll down). https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-millions-could-be-banned-from-socialising-under-new-restrictions-12101371 You can also zoom the map by using Ctrl and you mouse wheel. | |||
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"According to the bbc london is by far the hardest hit region in the south and is still comparably high." It is and the Map shows that . . . but it's nowhere near what it is up north west and north east. | |||
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"According to the bbc london is by far the hardest hit region in the south and is still comparably high. It is and the Map shows that . . . but it's nowhere near what it is up north west and north east." I'm not denying the north is getting hit hardest..its more the reasons behind it. | |||
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"Well it can only be 'people'. Really. It's doesn't come free in a Sugar Puffs Box lol. "remember when cereal came with free gifts .., simpler times | |||
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"Well it can only be 'people'. Really. It's doesn't come free in a Sugar Puffs Box lol.
remember when cereal came with free gifts .., simpler times "The Gmnt took them away  | |||
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"Some people struggle to handle complexity, so keep some kind of simplicity in their minds. There are forces out there who benefit from ignorance here" | |||
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"Keep seeing this North / South Divide thing going around What exactly does it mean? North stricter lockdown The south left untouched. Newcastle had 1453. Cases last week, That's 484 cases per 100,000. Liverpool had 2747 Cases last week, that's 555.2 cases per 100,000. Any Area in London has an average of 250 Cases last week and around 60 (avg) per 100,000. That is a huge difference between Northern and London." There's also a difference it seems between Tory ministers constituencies where the rate is higher that other areas who were place in restrictions at lower rates.. Hmm.. | |||
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"Well it can only be 'people'. Really. It's doesn't come free in a Sugar Puffs Box lol.
remember when cereal came with free gifts .., simpler times "I do I do - I still have a pull apart plastic palm sized doll that has two dresses. | |||
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"Well it can only be 'people'. Really. It's doesn't come free in a Sugar Puffs Box lol.
remember when cereal came with free gifts .., simpler times
The Gmnt took them away "Which goes to prove how if people can't be trusted not to eat a plastic toy, they can't be trusted with Covid | |||
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"According to the bbc london is by far the hardest hit region in the south and is still comparably high. It is and the Map shows that . . . but it's nowhere near what it is up north west and north east. I'm not denying the north is getting hit hardest..its more the reasons behind it." Why do you think the north is hit hardest at the moment? | |||
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"According to the bbc london is by far the hardest hit region in the south and is still comparably high. It is and the Map shows that . . . but it's nowhere near what it is up north west and north east. I'm not denying the north is getting hit hardest..its more the reasons behind it.Why do you think the north is hit hardest at the moment?" Yup. After all Covid isn't just choosing northern towns is it? | |||
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"Well it can only be 'people'. Really. It's doesn't come free in a Sugar Puffs Box lol. "there were many reasons given on tv this morning. Housing.... Poverty.... BAME issues to name but a few | |||
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"Well. Lionel. There are some people that don't believe Liverpool Won the Premier League in 2020. I distinctly heard thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands . . shouting . . . 'I don't believe it! I don't believe it!' (mainly Man City fans lol) "you sure that wasn't Victor Meldrew | |||
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"According to the bbc london is by far the hardest hit region in the south and is still comparably high. It is and the Map shows that . . . but it's nowhere near what it is up north west and north east. I'm not denying the north is getting hit hardest..its more the reasons behind it.Why do you think the north is hit hardest at the moment? Yup. After all Covid isn't just choosing northern towns is it? " Why is london hit more than another part of the south? Nicer accommodation perhaps? Maybe it prefers the nightlife? | |||
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"I've heard or read 3 people say in the last 24 hours that it doesnt exist. Whilst I fully understand people are suffering..mentally,econoinacally etc it still seems a bit of a jump to deny its existence. " Ooh  I fear another conspiracy thread coming on | |||
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"Well it can only be 'people'. Really. It's doesn't come free in a Sugar Puffs Box lol. there were many reasons given on tv this morning. Housing.... Poverty.... BAME issues to name but a few"I'm no expert but the fact that most big cities in the north have at least one university..and thousands of students have just gone back..may have a tiny..wheeny..impact. But dont quote me on that. | |||
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"Well it can only be 'people'. Really. It's doesn't come free in a Sugar Puffs Box lol. there were many reasons given on tv this morning. Housing.... Poverty.... BAME issues to name but a few"But nobody can catch covid from and empty house, you can't catch covid from poverty, PEOPLE is the factor - it's only people we are catching it from (well except for BAT patient Zero). | |||
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"Keep seeing this North / South Divide thing going around What exactly does it mean? North stricter lockdown The south left untouched. ok, so who's fault is it then? Who's fault is the virus? We know where it has come from and you know that. Why is the spread of the virus happening at a faster and higher rate in the North, than it is in the South. " more universities in the north more ethnic bame communities too possibly. | |||
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"Well it can only be 'people'. Really. It's doesn't come free in a Sugar Puffs Box lol. there were many reasons given on tv this morning. Housing.... Poverty.... BAME issues to name but a few
I'm no expert but the fact that most big cities in the north have at least one university..and thousands of students have just gone back..may have a tiny..wheeny..impact.
But dont quote me on that."why one area is being hit harder than another will be down to the overlap of many factors and impossible to pin down demographic of people living there... be that age/ race/ affluence (as we already know that there are other links between poverty and some of the underlying illnesses) , how many people were infected early on and might now have immunity, cultural influences on how families live together and interact, unis in the location bringing in students from across the country to one condensed area, if its a sea side tourist location and the weather was good so brought in visitors, local mindset + behaviours and its ripple effect (for example the peer pressure of living in an area where everyone is very strict about the rules with twitchy curtain neighbourhood watch vs a more anonymous city setting where people may see others without masks and bending rules so feel more justified in doing the same) i don't think we will ever know what the specific driver in each location will be ... its worth remembering though that its your local councils applying the additional restrictions.., so its not someone in london “penalising” newcastle while letting londoners off with it in the way that some people seem to be suggesting ... each council will have a different plan of what is right for their district and so might come up with different restrictions | |||
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"Well it can only be 'people'. Really. It's doesn't come free in a Sugar Puffs Box lol. there were many reasons given on tv this morning. Housing.... Poverty.... BAME issues to name but a few
But nobody can catch covid from and empty house, you can't catch covid from poverty, PEOPLE is the factor - it's only people we are catching it from (well except for BAT patient Zero).
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"I think people spend too much time online looking at nonsense websites spouting ridiculous theories , Facebook stats and not thinking coherantly for themselves. "This | |||
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"I've heard or read 3 people say in the last 24 hours that it doesnt exist. Whilst I fully understand people are suffering..mentally,econoinacally etc it still seems a bit of a jump to deny its existence. " It doesn't exist! I have seen no empirical evidence to suggest common sense exists. It's a myth. A conspiracy theory. | |||
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"Well it can only be 'people'. Really. It's doesn't come free in a Sugar Puffs Box lol. there were many reasons given on tv this morning. Housing.... Poverty.... BAME issues to name but a few
I'm no expert but the fact that most big cities in the north have at least one university..and thousands of students have just gone back..may have a tiny..wheeny..impact.
But dont quote me on that.
why one area is being hit harder than another will be down to the overlap of many factors and impossible to pin down
demographic of people living there... be that age/ race/ affluence (as we already know that there are other links between poverty and some of the underlying illnesses) , how many people were infected early on and might now have immunity, cultural influences on how families live together and interact, unis in the location bringing in students from across the country to one condensed area, if its a sea side tourist location and the weather was good so brought in visitors, local mindset + behaviours and its ripple effect (for example the peer pressure of living in an area where everyone is very strict about the rules with twitchy curtain neighbourhood watch vs a more anonymous city setting where people may see others without masks and bending rules so feel more justified in doing the same)
i don't think we will ever know what the specific driver in each location will be ... its worth remembering though that its your local councils applying the additional restrictions.., so its not someone in london “penalising” newcastle while letting londoners off with it in the way that some people seem to be suggesting ... each council will have a different plan of what is right for their district and so might come up with different restrictions"Its not here. The politicians have been very critical as they dont know what's happening. | |||
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"I think people spend too much time online looking at nonsense websites spouting ridiculous theories , Facebook stats and not thinking coherantly for themselves.
This "Me too | |||
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"Well it can only be 'people'. Really. It's doesn't come free in a Sugar Puffs Box lol. there were many reasons given on tv this morning. Housing.... Poverty.... BAME issues to name but a few
I'm no expert but the fact that most big cities in the north have at least one university..and thousands of students have just gone back..may have a tiny..wheeny..impact.
But dont quote me on that."we have university's down here too believe it or not. | |||
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"Well it can only be 'people'. Really. It's doesn't come free in a Sugar Puffs Box lol. there were many reasons given on tv this morning. Housing.... Poverty.... BAME issues to name but a few
I'm no expert but the fact that most big cities in the north have at least one university..and thousands of students have just gone back..may have a tiny..wheeny..impact.
But dont quote me on that.we have university's down here too believe it or not. "
Birkbeck, University of London
Brunel University London
City, University of London
Goldsmiths, University of London
Imperial College London
King's College London
Kingston University
London Metropolitan University
London School of Economics
London South Bank University
Middlesex University
Queen Mary University of London
Ravensbourne University London
Royal Holloway, University of London
SOAS, University of London
St George's, University of London
St Mary's University, Twickenham
University College London
University of East London
University of Greenwich
University of Roehampton
University of the Arts London
University of West London
University of Westminster
At that's not including all the private ones of which there are three times more. And not including the Foreign ones too.
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"Well it can only be 'people'. Really. It's doesn't come free in a Sugar Puffs Box lol. there were many reasons given on tv this morning. Housing.... Poverty.... BAME issues to name but a few
I'm no expert but the fact that most big cities in the north have at least one university..and thousands of students have just gone back..may have a tiny..wheeny..impact.
But dont quote me on that.we have university's down here too believe it or not.
Birkbeck, University of London
Brunel University London
City, University of London
Goldsmiths, University of London
Imperial College London
King's College London
Kingston University
London Metropolitan University
London School of Economics
London South Bank University
Middlesex University
Queen Mary University of London
Ravensbourne University London
Royal Holloway, University of London
SOAS, University of London
St George's, University of London
St Mary's University, Twickenham
University College London
University of East London
University of Greenwich
University of Roehampton
University of the Arts London
University of West London
University of Westminster
At that's not including all the private ones of which there are three times more. And not including the Foreign ones too.
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"Well it can only be 'people'. Really. It's doesn't come free in a Sugar Puffs Box lol. there were many reasons given on tv this morning. Housing.... Poverty.... BAME issues to name but a few
I'm no expert but the fact that most big cities in the north have at least one university..and thousands of students have just gone back..may have a tiny..wheeny..impact.
But dont quote me on that.we have university's down here too believe it or not.
Birkbeck, University of London
Brunel University London
City, University of London
Goldsmiths, University of London
Imperial College London
King's College London
Kingston University
London Metropolitan University
London School of Economics
London South Bank University
Middlesex University
Queen Mary University of London
Ravensbourne University London
Royal Holloway, University of London
SOAS, University of London
St George's, University of London
St Mary's University, Twickenham
University College London
University of East London
University of Greenwich
University of Roehampton
University of the Arts London
University of West London
University of Westminster
At that's not including all the private ones of which there are three times more. And not including the Foreign ones too.
So a load in london where the rate is higher than anywhere else in the south,?"So. Now you need to look up 'comparative population density' across all the much lower regions too. | |||
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"I've heard or read 3 people say in the last 24 hours that it doesnt exist. Whilst I fully understand people are suffering..mentally,econoinacally etc it still seems a bit of a jump to deny its existence. " One of them wasn’t an older fella.....American, slightly orange complexion? Can’t walk up steps with losing his breath? | |||
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"I've heard or read 3 people say in the last 24 hours that it doesnt exist. Whilst I fully understand people are suffering..mentally,econoinacally etc it still seems a bit of a jump to deny its existence. " Some people believe their own bullshit. A hour in their local covid ward and they wouldn't be denying it and quivering shitting their pants. | |||
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"It is quite clear what is happening. Boris and his gang are sneaking up North when no one is looking, painting themselves orange with 5ft eyelashes and just spouting "Erm, erm alright der la"..spreading the virus, because "No ones gonna tell me what do do" jump on the Milk train back down South and in the morning bash up the Northerners on the News threatening to give them a really hard time. Or you can wake up and smell the Coffee and blame it on some of the people that know that by going out on the lash, will keep it going for everyone. Do we blame it on their human rights, perhaps for their mental wellbeing, but if this Country doesn't get a grip soon, it will be locked down, many more will lose their jobs, but hey dont worry lets just tell Boris and Co, please fund our lives" S'funny I must have dreamt all those pics of crowded Parks and streets in London a few months ago. Oh I forgot covid doesnt exist in London Demonizing a group of people for a nationwide wide problem? Do they teach that at eton? I'm sure boris has got plenty of money coming in from his Russian pals..still he does have all that child maintenance to pay. | |||
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"It is quite clear what is happening. Boris and his gang are sneaking up North when no one is looking, painting themselves orange with 5ft eyelashes and just spouting "Erm, erm alright der la"..spreading the virus, because "No ones gonna tell me what do do" jump on the Milk train back down South and in the morning bash up the Northerners on the News threatening to give them a really hard time. Or you can wake up and smell the Coffee and blame it on some of the people that know that by going out on the lash, will keep it going for everyone. Do we blame it on their human rights, perhaps for their mental wellbeing, but if this Country doesn't get a grip soon, it will be locked down, many more will lose their jobs, but hey dont worry lets just tell Boris and Co, please fund our lives S'funny I must have dreamt all those pics of crowded Parks and streets in London a few months ago. Oh I forgot covid doesnt exist in London Demonizing a group of people for a nationwide wide problem? Do they teach that at eton? I'm sure boris has got plenty of money coming in from his Russian pals..still he does have all that child maintenance to pay." Other public schools are available. You seem to have it in for Eton. | |||
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"It is quite clear what is happening. Boris and his gang are sneaking up North when no one is looking, painting themselves orange with 5ft eyelashes and just spouting "Erm, erm alright der la"..spreading the virus, because "No ones gonna tell me what do do" jump on the Milk train back down South and in the morning bash up the Northerners on the News threatening to give them a really hard time. Or you can wake up and smell the Coffee and blame it on some of the people that know that by going out on the lash, will keep it going for everyone. Do we blame it on their human rights, perhaps for their mental wellbeing, but if this Country doesn't get a grip soon, it will be locked down, many more will lose their jobs, but hey dont worry lets just tell Boris and Co, please fund our lives S'funny I must have dreamt all those pics of crowded Parks and streets in London a few months ago. Oh I forgot covid doesnt exist in London Demonizing a group of people for a nationwide wide problem? Do they teach that at eton? I'm sure boris has got plenty of money coming in from his Russian pals..still he does have all that child maintenance to pay." So. Your Politics still overrides Evidence still? | |||
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"It is quite clear what is happening. Boris and his gang are sneaking up North when no one is looking, painting themselves orange with 5ft eyelashes and just spouting "Erm, erm alright der la"..spreading the virus, because "No ones gonna tell me what do do" jump on the Milk train back down South and in the morning bash up the Northerners on the News threatening to give them a really hard time. Or you can wake up and smell the Coffee and blame it on some of the people that know that by going out on the lash, will keep it going for everyone. Do we blame it on their human rights, perhaps for their mental wellbeing, but if this Country doesn't get a grip soon, it will be locked down, many more will lose their jobs, but hey dont worry lets just tell Boris and Co, please fund our lives S'funny I must have dreamt all those pics of crowded Parks and streets in London a few months ago. Oh I forgot covid doesnt exist in London Demonizing a group of people for a nationwide wide problem? Do they teach that at eton? I'm sure boris has got plenty of money coming in from his Russian pals..still he does have all that child maintenance to pay. Other public schools are available. You seem to have it in for Eton. " Eton is the only one I know | |||
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"It is quite clear what is happening. Boris and his gang are sneaking up North when no one is looking, painting themselves orange with 5ft eyelashes and just spouting "Erm, erm alright der la"..spreading the virus, because "No ones gonna tell me what do do" jump on the Milk train back down South and in the morning bash up the Northerners on the News threatening to give them a really hard time. Or you can wake up and smell the Coffee and blame it on some of the people that know that by going out on the lash, will keep it going for everyone. Do we blame it on their human rights, perhaps for their mental wellbeing, but if this Country doesn't get a grip soon, it will be locked down, many more will lose their jobs, but hey dont worry lets just tell Boris and Co, please fund our lives S'funny I must have dreamt all those pics of crowded Parks and streets in London a few months ago. Oh I forgot covid doesnt exist in London Demonizing a group of people for a nationwide wide problem? Do they teach that at eton? I'm sure boris has got plenty of money coming in from his Russian pals..still he does have all that child maintenance to pay. So. Your Politics still overrides Evidence still? "You realise the post i was replying too was political? | |||
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"It is quite clear what is happening. Boris and his gang are sneaking up North when no one is looking, painting themselves orange with 5ft eyelashes and just spouting "Erm, erm alright der la"..spreading the virus, because "No ones gonna tell me what do do" jump on the Milk train back down South and in the morning bash up the Northerners on the News threatening to give them a really hard time. Or you can wake up and smell the Coffee and blame it on some of the people that know that by going out on the lash, will keep it going for everyone. Do we blame it on their human rights, perhaps for their mental wellbeing, but if this Country doesn't get a grip soon, it will be locked down, many more will lose their jobs, but hey dont worry lets just tell Boris and Co, please fund our lives S'funny I must have dreamt all those pics of crowded Parks and streets in London a few months ago. Oh I forgot covid doesnt exist in London Demonizing a group of people for a nationwide wide problem? Do they teach that at eton? I'm sure boris has got plenty of money coming in from his Russian pals..still he does have all that child maintenance to pay. So. Your Politics still overrides Evidence still?
You realise the post i was replying too was political?"If it makes you feel any easier, I am a Northerner, Born in Lancashire and lived most of my adult life in Yorkshire. This isn't about Politics, Blue or Red, it is about a very dangerous virus that is killing people. It is not about a Government, spreading a Virus. It is about the people that are doing it, whether or not you agree, it is a fact. The Government wouldn't have to take action, if we ALL follow the rules. Of course big mistakes have occurred, none of us have ever been here before. We can all sit here and judge and tell them, where we believe they have gone wrong. We are not the ones making the decisions. If the Opposition were in Power, would they have done it all differently. So far all we have heard is....We will wait until the Tories do something, then we will tell them they have got it wrong, the Opposition haven't come up with a plan either, because if they did and it didnt work, the knives would be drawn for them too. This is about behaviour of the people, it isn't rocket science. It is not the North vs the South, the Tories Vs Labour. LETS FACE IT WE ALL SEE ON HERE PEOPLE STILL MEETING EACH OTHER. Draconian it might be, but it needs to happen. The Rules are for the obedience of Fools and for the Guidance of Wise men. | |||
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"It is quite clear what is happening. Boris and his gang are sneaking up North when no one is looking, painting themselves orange with 5ft eyelashes and just spouting "Erm, erm alright der la"..spreading the virus, because "No ones gonna tell me what do do" jump on the Milk train back down South and in the morning bash up the Northerners on the News threatening to give them a really hard time. Or you can wake up and smell the Coffee and blame it on some of the people that know that by going out on the lash, will keep it going for everyone. Do we blame it on their human rights, perhaps for their mental wellbeing, but if this Country doesn't get a grip soon, it will be locked down, many more will lose their jobs, but hey dont worry lets just tell Boris and Co, please fund our lives S'funny I must have dreamt all those pics of crowded Parks and streets in London a few months ago. Oh I forgot covid doesnt exist in London Demonizing a group of people for a nationwide wide problem? Do they teach that at eton? I'm sure boris has got plenty of money coming in from his Russian pals..still he does have all that child maintenance to pay. So. Your Politics still overrides Evidence still?
You realise the post i was replying too was political?
If it makes you feel any easier, I am a Northerner, Born in Lancashire and lived most of my adult life in Yorkshire.
This isn't about Politics, Blue or Red, it is about a very dangerous virus that is killing people.
It is not about a Government, spreading a Virus. It is about the people that are doing it, whether or not you agree, it is a fact.
The Government wouldn't have to take action, if we ALL follow the rules. Of course big mistakes have occurred, none of us have ever been here before.
We can all sit here and judge and tell them, where we believe they have gone wrong. We are not the ones making the decisions. If the Opposition were in Power, would they have done it all differently. So far all we have heard is....We will wait until the Tories do something, then we will tell them they have got it wrong, the Opposition haven't come up with a plan either, because if they did and it didnt work, the knives would be drawn for them too.
This is about behaviour of the people, it isn't rocket science. It is not the North vs the South, the Tories Vs Labour.
LETS FACE IT WE ALL SEE ON HERE PEOPLE STILL MEETING EACH OTHER.
Draconian it might be, but it needs to happen.
The Rules are for the obedience of Fools and for the Guidance of Wise men."There are some places on the south and Midlands which have got double the rates of places in the north but they arent getting lockdown. This narrative that everyone in the north is just flouting the rules is bollocks. I barely see anyone without a mask.. the gym is dead strict..work the same. | |||
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"loval government in the each area are making the decision... why are you angry at westminister or the south in general for what liverpool council are implementing? " They are not making the decision Joe Anderson,steve rotherham and Andy Burnham have all said they have not been consulted so I'm really not sure where you are getting this from. It's not like the north east | |||
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"loval government in the each area are making the decision... why are you angry at westminister or the south in general for what liverpool council are implementing? They are not making the decision Joe Anderson,steve rotherham and Andy Burnham have all said they have not been consulted so I'm really not sure where you are getting this from. It's not like the north east " Forbes, the leader of Newcastle City Council claimed that they hadn’t been consulted either only for Gateshead’s leader to say that the current restrictions were what they had asked for but didn’t go far enough! So, was Forbed telling porkies? | |||
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"loval government in the each area are making the decision... why are you angry at westminister or the south in general for what liverpool council are implementing? They are not making the decision Joe Anderson,steve rotherham and Andy Burnham have all said they have not been consulted so I'm really not sure where you are getting this from. It's not like the north east Forbes, the leader of Newcastle City Council claimed that they hadn’t been consulted either only for Gateshead’s leader to say that the current restrictions were what they had asked for but didn’t go far enough! So, was Forbed telling porkies? " Dunno? But every local media outlet here is reporting that politicians are furious about being kept in the dark,so I've no idea where this is coming from. | |||
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"It is quite clear what is happening. Boris and his gang are sneaking up North when no one is looking, painting themselves orange with 5ft eyelashes and just spouting "Erm, erm alright der la"..spreading the virus, because "No ones gonna tell me what do do" jump on the Milk train back down South and in the morning bash up the Northerners on the News threatening to give them a really hard time. Or you can wake up and smell the Coffee and blame it on some of the people that know that by going out on the lash, will keep it going for everyone. Do we blame it on their human rights, perhaps for their mental wellbeing, but if this Country doesn't get a grip soon, it will be locked down, many more will lose their jobs, but hey dont worry lets just tell Boris and Co, please fund our lives S'funny I must have dreamt all those pics of crowded Parks and streets in London a few months ago. Oh I forgot covid doesnt exist in London Demonizing a group of people for a nationwide wide problem? Do they teach that at eton? I'm sure boris has got plenty of money coming in from his Russian pals..still he does have all that child maintenance to pay. So. Your Politics still overrides Evidence still?
You realise the post i was replying too was political?
If it makes you feel any easier, I am a Northerner, Born in Lancashire and lived most of my adult life in Yorkshire.
This isn't about Politics, Blue or Red, it is about a very dangerous virus that is killing people.
It is not about a Government, spreading a Virus. It is about the people that are doing it, whether or not you agree, it is a fact.
The Government wouldn't have to take action, if we ALL follow the rules. Of course big mistakes have occurred, none of us have ever been here before.
We can all sit here and judge and tell them, where we believe they have gone wrong. We are not the ones making the decisions. If the Opposition were in Power, would they have done it all differently. So far all we have heard is....We will wait until the Tories do something, then we will tell them they have got it wrong, the Opposition haven't come up with a plan either, because if they did and it didnt work, the knives would be drawn for them too.
This is about behaviour of the people, it isn't rocket science. It is not the North vs the South, the Tories Vs Labour.
LETS FACE IT WE ALL SEE ON HERE PEOPLE STILL MEETING EACH OTHER.
Draconian it might be, but it needs to happen.
The Rules are for the obedience of Fools and for the Guidance of Wise men.
There are some places on the south and Midlands which have got double the rates of places in the north but they arent getting lockdown.
This narrative that everyone in the north is just flouting the rules is bollocks.
I barely see anyone without a mask.. the gym is dead strict..work the same."Flouting the rules or not. The infection rates are higher and have been consistently for nearly 2 months. Stop spreading the virus, follow the guidelines and then no need for any lock Downs. If people want to live in denial thats their prerogative but the facts are there to be seen. | |||
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"It is quite clear what is happening. Boris and his gang are sneaking up North when no one is looking, painting themselves orange with 5ft eyelashes and just spouting "Erm, erm alright der la"..spreading the virus, because "No ones gonna tell me what do do" jump on the Milk train back down South and in the morning bash up the Northerners on the News threatening to give them a really hard time. Or you can wake up and smell the Coffee and blame it on some of the people that know that by going out on the lash, will keep it going for everyone. Do we blame it on their human rights, perhaps for their mental wellbeing, but if this Country doesn't get a grip soon, it will be locked down, many more will lose their jobs, but hey dont worry lets just tell Boris and Co, please fund our lives S'funny I must have dreamt all those pics of crowded Parks and streets in London a few months ago. Oh I forgot covid doesnt exist in London Demonizing a group of people for a nationwide wide problem? Do they teach that at eton? I'm sure boris has got plenty of money coming in from his Russian pals..still he does have all that child maintenance to pay. So. Your Politics still overrides Evidence still?
You realise the post i was replying too was political?
If it makes you feel any easier, I am a Northerner, Born in Lancashire and lived most of my adult life in Yorkshire.
This isn't about Politics, Blue or Red, it is about a very dangerous virus that is killing people.
It is not about a Government, spreading a Virus. It is about the people that are doing it, whether or not you agree, it is a fact.
The Government wouldn't have to take action, if we ALL follow the rules. Of course big mistakes have occurred, none of us have ever been here before.
We can all sit here and judge and tell them, where we believe they have gone wrong. We are not the ones making the decisions. If the Opposition were in Power, would they have done it all differently. So far all we have heard is....We will wait until the Tories do something, then we will tell them they have got it wrong, the Opposition haven't come up with a plan either, because if they did and it didnt work, the knives would be drawn for them too.
This is about behaviour of the people, it isn't rocket science. It is not the North vs the South, the Tories Vs Labour.
LETS FACE IT WE ALL SEE ON HERE PEOPLE STILL MEETING EACH OTHER.
Draconian it might be, but it needs to happen.
The Rules are for the obedience of Fools and for the Guidance of Wise men.
There are some places on the south and Midlands which have got double the rates of places in the north but they arent getting lockdown.
This narrative that everyone in the north is just flouting the rules is bollocks.
I barely see anyone without a mask.. the gym is dead strict..work the same.
Flouting the rules or not. The infection rates are higher and have been consistently for nearly 2 months. Stop spreading the virus, follow the guidelines and then no need for any lock Downs. If people want to live in denial thats their prerogative but the facts are there to be seen. "The highest rates of infection are taking places in schools places of employment and universities | |||
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"loval government in the each area are making the decision... why are you angry at westminister or the south in general for what liverpool council are implementing? They are not making the decision Joe Anderson,steve rotherham and Andy Burnham have all said they have not been consulted so I'm really not sure where you are getting this from. It's not like the north east Forbes, the leader of Newcastle City Council claimed that they hadn’t been consulted either only for Gateshead’s leader to say that the current restrictions were what they had asked for but didn’t go far enough! So, was Forbed telling porkies? Dunno? But every local media outlet here is reporting that politicians are furious about being kept in the dark,so I've no idea where this is coming from." According to the latest on the BBC website, Steve Rotherham has said that “ no deal has been agreed” and that “negotiations were ongoing”. So much for being kept in the dark! | |||
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"loval government in the each area are making the decision... why are you angry at westminister or the south in general for what liverpool council are implementing? They are not making the decision Joe Anderson,steve rotherham and Andy Burnham have all said they have not been consulted so I'm really not sure where you are getting this from. It's not like the north east Forbes, the leader of Newcastle City Council claimed that they hadn’t been consulted either only for Gateshead’s leader to say that the current restrictions were what they had asked for but didn’t go far enough! So, was Forbed telling porkies? Dunno? But every local media outlet here is reporting that politicians are furious about being kept in the dark,so I've no idea where this is coming from. According to the latest on the BBC website, Steve Rotherham has said that “ no deal has been agreed” and that “negotiations were ongoing”. So much for being kept in the dark!" I'd post a link but you cant on here. He was on 5 live on Friday saying he was completely in the dark. I believe talks have been ongoing today. | |||
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"It is quite clear what is happening. Boris and his gang are sneaking up North when no one is looking, painting themselves orange with 5ft eyelashes and just spouting "Erm, erm alright der la"..spreading the virus, because "No ones gonna tell me what do do" jump on the Milk train back down South and in the morning bash up the Northerners on the News threatening to give them a really hard time. Or you can wake up and smell the Coffee and blame it on some of the people that know that by going out on the lash, will keep it going for everyone. Do we blame it on their human rights, perhaps for their mental wellbeing, but if this Country doesn't get a grip soon, it will be locked down, many more will lose their jobs, but hey dont worry lets just tell Boris and Co, please fund our lives S'funny I must have dreamt all those pics of crowded Parks and streets in London a few months ago. Oh I forgot covid doesnt exist in London Demonizing a group of people for a nationwide wide problem? Do they teach that at eton? I'm sure boris has got plenty of money coming in from his Russian pals..still he does have all that child maintenance to pay. So. Your Politics still overrides Evidence still?
You realise the post i was replying too was political?
If it makes you feel any easier, I am a Northerner, Born in Lancashire and lived most of my adult life in Yorkshire.
This isn't about Politics, Blue or Red, it is about a very dangerous virus that is killing people.
It is not about a Government, spreading a Virus. It is about the people that are doing it, whether or not you agree, it is a fact.
The Government wouldn't have to take action, if we ALL follow the rules. Of course big mistakes have occurred, none of us have ever been here before.
We can all sit here and judge and tell them, where we believe they have gone wrong. We are not the ones making the decisions. If the Opposition were in Power, would they have done it all differently. So far all we have heard is....We will wait until the Tories do something, then we will tell them they have got it wrong, the Opposition haven't come up with a plan either, because if they did and it didnt work, the knives would be drawn for them too.
This is about behaviour of the people, it isn't rocket science. It is not the North vs the South, the Tories Vs Labour.
LETS FACE IT WE ALL SEE ON HERE PEOPLE STILL MEETING EACH OTHER.
Draconian it might be, but it needs to happen.
The Rules are for the obedience of Fools and for the Guidance of Wise men.
There are some places on the south and Midlands which have got double the rates of places in the north but they arent getting lockdown.
This narrative that everyone in the north is just flouting the rules is bollocks.
I barely see anyone without a mask.. the gym is dead strict..work the same.
Flouting the rules or not. The infection rates are higher and have been consistently for nearly 2 months. Stop spreading the virus, follow the guidelines and then no need for any lock Downs. If people want to live in denial thats their prerogative but the facts are there to be seen.
The highest rates of infection are taking places in schools places of employment and universities "But there are schools, unis and places of work in the Midlands and South too. | |||
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"loval government in the each area are making the decision... why are you angry at westminister or the south in general for what liverpool council are implementing? They are not making the decision Joe Anderson,steve rotherham and Andy Burnham have all said they have not been consulted so I'm really not sure where you are getting this from. It's not like the north east Forbes, the leader of Newcastle City Council claimed that they hadn’t been consulted either only for Gateshead’s leader to say that the current restrictions were what they had asked for but didn’t go far enough! So, was Forbed telling porkies? Dunno? But every local media outlet here is reporting that politicians are furious about being kept in the dark,so I've no idea where this is coming from. According to the latest on the BBC website, Steve Rotherham has said that “ no deal has been agreed” and that “negotiations were ongoing”. So much for being kept in the dark! I'd post a link but you cant on here. He was on 5 live on Friday saying he was completely in the dark. I believe talks have been ongoing today." According to the same article, it says government ministers have not been in touch with Manchester’s political leaders since Friday. So much for Burnham’s claims too then! | |||
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"It is quite clear what is happening. Boris and his gang are sneaking up North when no one is looking, painting themselves orange with 5ft eyelashes and just spouting "Erm, erm alright der la"..spreading the virus, because "No ones gonna tell me what do do" jump on the Milk train back down South and in the morning bash up the Northerners on the News threatening to give them a really hard time. Or you can wake up and smell the Coffee and blame it on some of the people that know that by going out on the lash, will keep it going for everyone. Do we blame it on their human rights, perhaps for their mental wellbeing, but if this Country doesn't get a grip soon, it will be locked down, many more will lose their jobs, but hey dont worry lets just tell Boris and Co, please fund our lives S'funny I must have dreamt all those pics of crowded Parks and streets in London a few months ago. Oh I forgot covid doesnt exist in London Demonizing a group of people for a nationwide wide problem? Do they teach that at eton? I'm sure boris has got plenty of money coming in from his Russian pals..still he does have all that child maintenance to pay. So. Your Politics still overrides Evidence still?
You realise the post i was replying too was political?
If it makes you feel any easier, I am a Northerner, Born in Lancashire and lived most of my adult life in Yorkshire.
This isn't about Politics, Blue or Red, it is about a very dangerous virus that is killing people.
It is not about a Government, spreading a Virus. It is about the people that are doing it, whether or not you agree, it is a fact.
The Government wouldn't have to take action, if we ALL follow the rules. Of course big mistakes have occurred, none of us have ever been here before.
We can all sit here and judge and tell them, where we believe they have gone wrong. We are not the ones making the decisions. If the Opposition were in Power, would they have done it all differently. So far all we have heard is....We will wait until the Tories do something, then we will tell them they have got it wrong, the Opposition haven't come up with a plan either, because if they did and it didnt work, the knives would be drawn for them too.
This is about behaviour of the people, it isn't rocket science. It is not the North vs the South, the Tories Vs Labour.
LETS FACE IT WE ALL SEE ON HERE PEOPLE STILL MEETING EACH OTHER.
Draconian it might be, but it needs to happen.
The Rules are for the obedience of Fools and for the Guidance of Wise men.
There are some places on the south and Midlands which have got double the rates of places in the north but they arent getting lockdown.
This narrative that everyone in the north is just flouting the rules is bollocks.
I barely see anyone without a mask.. the gym is dead strict..work the same.
Flouting the rules or not. The infection rates are higher and have been consistently for nearly 2 months. Stop spreading the virus, follow the guidelines and then no need for any lock Downs. If people want to live in denial thats their prerogative but the facts are there to be seen.
The highest rates of infection are taking places in schools places of employment and universities
But there are schools, unis and places of work in the Midlands and South too. "Last time I looked..Nottingham was in the Midlands (the highest in the country) The south has far less big cities. | |||
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"loval government in the each area are making the decision... why are you angry at westminister or the south in general for what liverpool council are implementing? They are not making the decision Joe Anderson,steve rotherham and Andy Burnham have all said they have not been consulted so I'm really not sure where you are getting this from. It's not like the north east Forbes, the leader of Newcastle City Council claimed that they hadn’t been consulted either only for Gateshead’s leader to say that the current restrictions were what they had asked for but didn’t go far enough! So, was Forbed telling porkies? Dunno? But every local media outlet here is reporting that politicians are furious about being kept in the dark,so I've no idea where this is coming from. According to the latest on the BBC website, Steve Rotherham has said that “ no deal has been agreed” and that “negotiations were ongoing”. So much for being kept in the dark! I'd post a link but you cant on here. He was on 5 live on Friday saying he was completely in the dark. I believe talks have been ongoing today. According to the same article, it says government ministers have not been in touch with Manchester’s political leaders since Friday. So much for Burnham’s claims too then!" Surely that backs up his claims? | |||
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"loval government in the each area are making the decision... why are you angry at westminister or the south in general for what liverpool council are implementing? They are not making the decision Joe Anderson,steve rotherham and Andy Burnham have all said they have not been consulted so I'm really not sure where you are getting this from. It's not like the north east Forbes, the leader of Newcastle City Council claimed that they hadn’t been consulted either only for Gateshead’s leader to say that the current restrictions were what they had asked for but didn’t go far enough! So, was Forbed telling porkies? Dunno? But every local media outlet here is reporting that politicians are furious about being kept in the dark,so I've no idea where this is coming from. According to the latest on the BBC website, Steve Rotherham has said that “ no deal has been agreed” and that “negotiations were ongoing”. So much for being kept in the dark! I'd post a link but you cant on here. He was on 5 live on Friday saying he was completely in the dark. I believe talks have been ongoing today. According to the same article, it says government ministers have not been in touch with Manchester’s political leaders since Friday. So much for Burnham’s claims too then! Surely that backs up his claims?" On the contrary, it suggests that they were in dialogue on Friday evening. | |||
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"loval government in the each area are making the decision... why are you angry at westminister or the south in general for what liverpool council are implementing? They are not making the decision Joe Anderson,steve rotherham and Andy Burnham have all said they have not been consulted so I'm really not sure where you are getting this from. It's not like the north east Forbes, the leader of Newcastle City Council claimed that they hadn’t been consulted either only for Gateshead’s leader to say that the current restrictions were what they had asked for but didn’t go far enough! So, was Forbed telling porkies? Dunno? But every local media outlet here is reporting that politicians are furious about being kept in the dark,so I've no idea where this is coming from. According to the latest on the BBC website, Steve Rotherham has said that “ no deal has been agreed” and that “negotiations were ongoing”. So much for being kept in the dark! I'd post a link but you cant on here. He was on 5 live on Friday saying he was completely in the dark. I believe talks have been ongoing today. According to the same article, it says government ministers have not been in touch with Manchester’s political leaders since Friday. So much for Burnham’s claims too then! Surely that backs up his claims? On the contrary, it suggests that they were in dialogue on Friday evening." Tbf..you are probally right..I mean its hard to know who to believe..every local politician in the north west of England.. or boris Johnson. | |||
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"loval government in the each area are making the decision... why are you angry at westminister or the south in general for what liverpool council are implementing? They are not making the decision Joe Anderson,steve rotherham and Andy Burnham have all said they have not been consulted so I'm really not sure where you are getting this from. It's not like the north east Forbes, the leader of Newcastle City Council claimed that they hadn’t been consulted either only for Gateshead’s leader to say that the current restrictions were what they had asked for but didn’t go far enough! So, was Forbed telling porkies? Dunno? But every local media outlet here is reporting that politicians are furious about being kept in the dark,so I've no idea where this is coming from. According to the latest on the BBC website, Steve Rotherham has said that “ no deal has been agreed” and that “negotiations were ongoing”. So much for being kept in the dark! I'd post a link but you cant on here. He was on 5 live on Friday saying he was completely in the dark. I believe talks have been ongoing today. According to the same article, it says government ministers have not been in touch with Manchester’s political leaders since Friday. So much for Burnham’s claims too then! Surely that backs up his claims? On the contrary, it suggests that they were in dialogue on Friday evening. Tbf..you are probally right..I mean its hard to know who to believe..every local politician in the north west of England.. or boris Johnson." Here’s the relevant paragraph. “It was thought Manchester may be included in Tier 3, but the BBC understands there have been no contacts between ministers and political leaders in Greater Manchester since Friday night.“ I’m sure the ministers were only in touch to wish Burnham et al a happy weekend. I wouldn’t believe a word any of them said, be it Johnson, Forbes or your lot down there, they all spin it for their political gain but it does look like there is dialogue, contrary to your earlier claim. | |||
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"loval government in the each area are making the decision... why are you angry at westminister or the south in general for what liverpool council are implementing? They are not making the decision Joe Anderson,steve rotherham and Andy Burnham have all said they have not been consulted so I'm really not sure where you are getting this from. It's not like the north east Forbes, the leader of Newcastle City Council claimed that they hadn’t been consulted either only for Gateshead’s leader to say that the current restrictions were what they had asked for but didn’t go far enough! So, was Forbed telling porkies? Dunno? But every local media outlet here is reporting that politicians are furious about being kept in the dark,so I've no idea where this is coming from. According to the latest on the BBC website, Steve Rotherham has said that “ no deal has been agreed” and that “negotiations were ongoing”. So much for being kept in the dark! I'd post a link but you cant on here. He was on 5 live on Friday saying he was completely in the dark. I believe talks have been ongoing today. According to the same article, it says government ministers have not been in touch with Manchester’s political leaders since Friday. So much for Burnham’s claims too then! Surely that backs up his claims? On the contrary, it suggests that they were in dialogue on Friday evening. Tbf..you are probally right..I mean its hard to know who to believe..every local politician in the north west of England.. or boris Johnson." It is difficult, perhaps we could set some criteria to help decide? How about have any of them lost two jobs because they got caught lying? | |||
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"loval government in the each area are making the decision... why are you angry at westminister or the south in general for what liverpool council are implementing? They are not making the decision Joe Anderson,steve rotherham and Andy Burnham have all said they have not been consulted so I'm really not sure where you are getting this from. It's not like the north east Forbes, the leader of Newcastle City Council claimed that they hadn’t been consulted either only for Gateshead’s leader to say that the current restrictions were what they had asked for but didn’t go far enough! So, was Forbed telling porkies? Dunno? But every local media outlet here is reporting that politicians are furious about being kept in the dark,so I've no idea where this is coming from. According to the latest on the BBC website, Steve Rotherham has said that “ no deal has been agreed” and that “negotiations were ongoing”. So much for being kept in the dark! I'd post a link but you cant on here. He was on 5 live on Friday saying he was completely in the dark. I believe talks have been ongoing today. According to the same article, it says government ministers have not been in touch with Manchester’s political leaders since Friday. So much for Burnham’s claims too then! Surely that backs up his claims? On the contrary, it suggests that they were in dialogue on Friday evening. Tbf..you are probally right..I mean its hard to know who to believe..every local politician in the north west of England.. or boris Johnson. Here’s the relevant paragraph. “It was thought Manchester may be included in Tier 3, but the BBC understands there have been no contacts between ministers and political leaders in Greater Manchester since Friday night.“ I’m sure the ministers were only in touch to wish Burnham et al a happy weekend. I wouldn’t believe a word any of them said, be it Johnson, Forbes or your lot down there, they all spin it for their political gain but it does look like there is dialogue, contrary to your earlier claim." I think Burnham was on Thursday..and steve rotherham was on Friday..so even if the dialogue began on Friday night..why was the story leaked to the rag last week? It's not just those 2..many politicians are saying they have been left in the dark and plenty are not happy. | |||
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"loval government in the each area are making the decision... why are you angry at westminister or the south in general for what liverpool council are implementing? They are not making the decision Joe Anderson,steve rotherham and Andy Burnham have all said they have not been consulted so I'm really not sure where you are getting this from. It's not like the north east Forbes, the leader of Newcastle City Council claimed that they hadn’t been consulted either only for Gateshead’s leader to say that the current restrictions were what they had asked for but didn’t go far enough! So, was Forbed telling porkies? Dunno? But every local media outlet here is reporting that politicians are furious about being kept in the dark,so I've no idea where this is coming from. According to the latest on the BBC website, Steve Rotherham has said that “ no deal has been agreed” and that “negotiations were ongoing”. So much for being kept in the dark! I'd post a link but you cant on here. He was on 5 live on Friday saying he was completely in the dark. I believe talks have been ongoing today. According to the same article, it says government ministers have not been in touch with Manchester’s political leaders since Friday. So much for Burnham’s claims too then! Surely that backs up his claims? On the contrary, it suggests that they were in dialogue on Friday evening. Tbf..you are probally right..I mean its hard to know who to believe..every local politician in the north west of England.. or boris Johnson. Here’s the relevant paragraph. “It was thought Manchester may be included in Tier 3, but the BBC understands there have been no contacts between ministers and political leaders in Greater Manchester since Friday night.“ I’m sure the ministers were only in touch to wish Burnham et al a happy weekend. I wouldn’t believe a word any of them said, be it Johnson, Forbes or your lot down there, they all spin it for their political gain but it does look like there is dialogue, contrary to your earlier claim. I think Burnham was on Thursday..and steve rotherham was on Friday..so even if the dialogue began on Friday night..why was the story leaked to the rag last week? It's not just those 2..many politicians are saying they have been left in the dark and plenty are not happy." Indeed, our local leader Forbes being one of them. Unfortunately his counterpart across the river, and I would imagine unwittingly as they are of the same political persuasion, showed this to be utter bollocks! | |||
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"loval government in the each area are making the decision... why are you angry at westminister or the south in general for what liverpool council are implementing? They are not making the decision Joe Anderson,steve rotherham and Andy Burnham have all said they have not been consulted so I'm really not sure where you are getting this from. It's not like the north east Forbes, the leader of Newcastle City Council claimed that they hadn’t been consulted either only for Gateshead’s leader to say that the current restrictions were what they had asked for but didn’t go far enough! So, was Forbed telling porkies? Dunno? But every local media outlet here is reporting that politicians are furious about being kept in the dark,so I've no idea where this is coming from. According to the latest on the BBC website, Steve Rotherham has said that “ no deal has been agreed” and that “negotiations were ongoing”. So much for being kept in the dark! I'd post a link but you cant on here. He was on 5 live on Friday saying he was completely in the dark. I believe talks have been ongoing today. According to the same article, it says government ministers have not been in touch with Manchester’s political leaders since Friday. So much for Burnham’s claims too then! Surely that backs up his claims? On the contrary, it suggests that they were in dialogue on Friday evening. Tbf..you are probally right..I mean its hard to know who to believe..every local politician in the north west of England.. or boris Johnson. Here’s the relevant paragraph. “It was thought Manchester may be included in Tier 3, but the BBC understands there have been no contacts between ministers and political leaders in Greater Manchester since Friday night.“ I’m sure the ministers were only in touch to wish Burnham et al a happy weekend. I wouldn’t believe a word any of them said, be it Johnson, Forbes or your lot down there, they all spin it for their political gain but it does look like there is dialogue, contrary to your earlier claim. I think Burnham was on Thursday..and steve rotherham was on Friday..so even if the dialogue began on Friday night..why was the story leaked to the rag last week? It's not just those 2..many politicians are saying they have been left in the dark and plenty are not happy. Indeed, our local leader Forbes being one of them. Unfortunately his counterpart across the river, and I would imagine unwittingly as they are of the same political persuasion, showed this to be utter bollocks!" Are they not aware of the telephone? | |||
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"loval government in the each area are making the decision... why are you angry at westminister or the south in general for what liverpool council are implementing? They are not making the decision Joe Anderson,steve rotherham and Andy Burnham have all said they have not been consulted so I'm really not sure where you are getting this from. It's not like the north east Forbes, the leader of Newcastle City Council claimed that they hadn’t been consulted either only for Gateshead’s leader to say that the current restrictions were what they had asked for but didn’t go far enough! So, was Forbed telling porkies? Dunno? But every local media outlet here is reporting that politicians are furious about being kept in the dark,so I've no idea where this is coming from. According to the latest on the BBC website, Steve Rotherham has said that “ no deal has been agreed” and that “negotiations were ongoing”. So much for being kept in the dark! I'd post a link but you cant on here. He was on 5 live on Friday saying he was completely in the dark. I believe talks have been ongoing today. According to the same article, it says government ministers have not been in touch with Manchester’s political leaders since Friday. So much for Burnham’s claims too then! Surely that backs up his claims? On the contrary, it suggests that they were in dialogue on Friday evening. Tbf..you are probally right..I mean its hard to know who to believe..every local politician in the north west of England.. or boris Johnson. Here’s the relevant paragraph. “It was thought Manchester may be included in Tier 3, but the BBC understands there have been no contacts between ministers and political leaders in Greater Manchester since Friday night.“ I’m sure the ministers were only in touch to wish Burnham et al a happy weekend. I wouldn’t believe a word any of them said, be it Johnson, Forbes or your lot down there, they all spin it for their political gain but it does look like there is dialogue, contrary to your earlier claim. I think Burnham was on Thursday..and steve rotherham was on Friday..so even if the dialogue began on Friday night..why was the story leaked to the rag last week? It's not just those 2..many politicians are saying they have been left in the dark and plenty are not happy. Indeed, our local leader Forbes being one of them. Unfortunately his counterpart across the river, and I would imagine unwittingly as they are of the same political persuasion, showed this to be utter bollocks! Are they not aware of the telephone?" I would imagine so, just not clever enough to sing from the same hymn sheet | |||
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"I've heard or read 3 people say in the last 24 hours that it doesnt exist. Whilst I fully understand people are suffering..mentally,econoinacally etc it still seems a bit of a jump to deny its existence. " Alas there are still many thick people in this world they also probably believe the word is flat and the stork delivers babies.  | |||
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"Once again, Newcastle had 1453. Cases last week, That's 484 cases per 100,000. Liverpool had 2747 Cases last week, that's 555.2 cases per 100,000. Any Area in London has an average of 250 Cases last week and around 60 (avg) per 100,000. That is a huge difference between Northern and London. Arguing Politics is entirely another matter, COVID-19 isn't a Politician. It's just a fact like the figures above." I'm not saying the virus doesn't exist but these numbers are not as transparent as they seem to get a true idea you need to know the amount of people being tested in each area not just the population..the London numbers are split into boroughs compared to big cities or town so if only two thousand people lets say in barking and Dagenham for example was tested then this will show a low number compared to if the whole hundred thousand or more was tested in the whole of Liverpool And there has been a test shortage down south and people have been sent up north for testing so would they be recorded where they was tested or where they live? So everyone needs remember the advice that people are giving other people just because you have seen it on the internet don't just blindly believed it do your own research question everything! | |||
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"I am not a Corona denier but i understand why people are saying it doesn't exist. We live in a small town on the verge of local restrictions, the next town along is also facing restrictions. Everyone around here knows eaxh other, is related, connected in some way, yet no one actually seems to know anyone who is infected or got ill. There are always stories and rumours but that is often it. It is all very strange, especially the situation at the local hospital where everyone has a friend or relative who works there. It is a very odd pandemic indeed." Up until last week i knew of only one person, a colleague in Manchester whos had it since March and has still not returned to work. Fast forward a week and I have it, my daughter has it, her boyfriend has it, my step mum has it...and my dear dear dad is currently on oxygen steroids and IV antibiotics because of it. My brother who is a complete and utter racist misogynistic and conspiracy theory spouting nut thinks its not as bad as it sounds and that the government just want to control us and chip us etc etc...i actually hope part of the governments plan is to chip folk like him right in his bollocks! | |||
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"I am not a Corona denier but i understand why people are saying it doesn't exist. We live in a small town on the verge of local restrictions, the next town along is also facing restrictions. Everyone around here knows eaxh other, is related, connected in some way, yet no one actually seems to know anyone who is infected or got ill. There are always stories and rumours but that is often it. It is all very strange, especially the situation at the local hospital where everyone has a friend or relative who works there. It is a very odd pandemic indeed." I wonder if that’s because hospitalisations tend to follow a week or two after high infection rates and in your area the rates are still low, Norwich for instance is around 48 cases per 100,000, a position that the North West hotspots were in 6 weeks ago. Now Liverpool is a couple of days away from running out of hospital beds. Like this pandemic people’s attitudes to it are very odd, especially the seemingly inability to see that just because in their area the hospitals aren’t affected it doesn’t mean they won’t be. Very odd people. | |||
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"I am not a Corona denier but i understand why people are saying it doesn't exist. We live in a small town on the verge of local restrictions, the next town along is also facing restrictions. Everyone around here knows eaxh other, is related, connected in some way, yet no one actually seems to know anyone who is infected or got ill. There are always stories and rumours but that is often it. It is all very strange, especially the situation at the local hospital where everyone has a friend or relative who works there. It is a very odd pandemic indeed. I wonder if that’s because hospitalisations tend to follow a week or two after high infection rates and in your area the rates are still low, Norwich for instance is around 48 cases per 100,000, a position that the North West hotspots were in 6 weeks ago. Now Liverpool is a couple of days away from running out of hospital beds. Like this pandemic people’s attitudes to it are very odd, especially the seemingly inability to see that just because in their area the hospitals aren’t affected it doesn’t mean they won’t be. Very odd people." We were 95 cases per 100,000. 100 cases per 100,000 | |||
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"I am not a Corona denier but i understand why people are saying it doesn't exist. We live in a small town on the verge of local restrictions, the next town along is also facing restrictions. Everyone around here knows eaxh other, is related, connected in some way, yet no one actually seems to know anyone who is infected or got ill. There are always stories and rumours but that is often it. It is all very strange, especially the situation at the local hospital where everyone has a friend or relative who works there. It is a very odd pandemic indeed. I wonder if that’s because hospitalisations tend to follow a week or two after high infection rates and in your area the rates are still low, Norwich for instance is around 48 cases per 100,000, a position that the North West hotspots were in 6 weeks ago. Now Liverpool is a couple of days away from running out of hospital beds. Like this pandemic people’s attitudes to it are very odd, especially the seemingly inability to see that just because in their area the hospitals aren’t affected it doesn’t mean they won’t be. Very odd people. We were 95 cases per 100,000. 100 cases per 100,000" Oh, I had a look at an article published on Saturday in the Lowestoft Journal where it showed Norwich at 57.6 per 100,000 (up from 48, I apologise for my error) whereas Merseyside has 685 cases per 100,000. It’s the nature of this very odd virus to be very infectious and then for people to end up in hospital, which actually isn’t very odd to be honest. What is very odd is people’s seeming unwillingness to see what is happening. | |||
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"I am not a Corona denier but i understand why people are saying it doesn't exist. We live in a small town on the verge of local restrictions, the next town along is also facing restrictions. Everyone around here knows eaxh other, is related, connected in some way, yet no one actually seems to know anyone who is infected or got ill. There are always stories and rumours but that is often it. It is all very strange, especially the situation at the local hospital where everyone has a friend or relative who works there. It is a very odd pandemic indeed. I wonder if that’s because hospitalisations tend to follow a week or two after high infection rates and in your area the rates are still low, Norwich for instance is around 48 cases per 100,000, a position that the North West hotspots were in 6 weeks ago. Now Liverpool is a couple of days away from running out of hospital beds. Like this pandemic people’s attitudes to it are very odd, especially the seemingly inability to see that just because in their area the hospitals aren’t affected it doesn’t mean they won’t be. Very odd people. We were 95 cases per 100,000. 100 cases per 100,000 Oh, I had a look at an article published on Saturday in the Lowestoft Journal where it showed Norwich at 57.6 per 100,000 (up from 48, I apologise for my error) whereas Merseyside has 685 cases per 100,000. It’s the nature of this very odd virus to be very infectious and then for people to end up in hospital, which actually isn’t very odd to be honest. What is very odd is people’s seeming unwillingness to see what is happening." Sorry numbers i was talking are for Great Yarmouth. But anyway we do see what is happening, our community being financially decimated for a virus that seems to not be as deadly as first thought and Sweden doing great despite no lock down measures. These a poor and struggling towns that rely on seasonal income and small businesses, many which are now gone. Coronavirus isn't going anywhere and a cure or vaccine isn't going to ve with us anytime soon, if ever. So how long do we carry on ruining our economy? But my original point was simply this. I totally understand those around here who are angry and dont believes it is real. The harm they have seen to their lives economically is very real to them, but ask anyone around here if they no anyone who has had it, or ask abyone who works at the hospital here how bad it has been. | |||
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"loval government in the each area are making the decision... why are you angry at westminister or the south in general for what liverpool council are implementing? You've seen the complaints from them that there's not general consultation but imposition? This has been the pattern for months. " Speaking for my part of the world, that’s utter bollocks!! | |||
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"loval government in the each area are making the decision... why are you angry at westminister or the south in general for what liverpool council are implementing? You've seen the complaints from them that there's not general consultation but imposition? This has been the pattern for months. Speaking for my part of the world, that’s utter bollocks!!" What is bollocks exactly? Its not from where i am | |||
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"loval government in the each area are making the decision... why are you angry at westminister or the south in general for what liverpool council are implementing? You've seen the complaints from them that there's not general consultation but imposition? This has been the pattern for months. Speaking for my part of the world, that’s utter bollocks!! What is bollocks exactly? Its not from where i am " I’ve already explained the situation up here in a previous thread to which you responded. Read back! | |||
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"loval government in the each area are making the decision... why are you angry at westminister or the south in general for what liverpool council are implementing? You've seen the complaints from them that there's not general consultation but imposition? This has been the pattern for months. Speaking for my part of the world, that’s utter bollocks!! What is bollocks exactly? Its not from where i am I’ve already explained the situation up here in a previous thread to which you responded. Read back!" Oh yeah | |||
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"I am not a Corona denier but i understand why people are saying it doesn't exist. We live in a small town on the verge of local restrictions, the next town along is also facing restrictions. Everyone around here knows eaxh other, is related, connected in some way, yet no one actually seems to know anyone who is infected or got ill. There are always stories and rumours but that is often it. It is all very strange, especially the situation at the local hospital where everyone has a friend or relative who works there. It is a very odd pandemic indeed. I wonder if that’s because hospitalisations tend to follow a week or two after high infection rates and in your area the rates are still low, Norwich for instance is around 48 cases per 100,000, a position that the North West hotspots were in 6 weeks ago. Now Liverpool is a couple of days away from running out of hospital beds. Like this pandemic people’s attitudes to it are very odd, especially the seemingly inability to see that just because in their area the hospitals aren’t affected it doesn’t mean they won’t be. Very odd people. We were 95 cases per 100,000. 100 cases per 100,000 Oh, I had a look at an article published on Saturday in the Lowestoft Journal where it showed Norwich at 57.6 per 100,000 (up from 48, I apologise for my error) whereas Merseyside has 685 cases per 100,000. It’s the nature of this very odd virus to be very infectious and then for people to end up in hospital, which actually isn’t very odd to be honest. What is very odd is people’s seeming unwillingness to see what is happening. Sorry numbers i was talking are for Great Yarmouth. But anyway we do see what is happening, our community being financially decimated for a virus that seems to not be as deadly as first thought and Sweden doing great despite no lock down measures. These a poor and struggling towns that rely on seasonal income and small businesses, many which are now gone. Coronavirus isn't going anywhere and a cure or vaccine isn't going to ve with us anytime soon, if ever. So how long do we carry on ruining our economy? But my original point was simply this. I totally understand those around here who are angry and dont believes it is real. The harm they have seen to their lives economically is very real to them, but ask anyone around here if they no anyone who has had it, or ask abyone who works at the hospital here how bad it has been. " The Sweden comparison has been debunked so often it’s really not worth making. They are culturally, economically, and geographically very different from us. | |||
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"Well. Lionel. There are some people that don't believe Liverpool Won the Premier League in 2020. I distinctly heard thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands . . shouting . . . 'I don't believe it! I don't believe it!' (mainly Man City fans lol) " ???? | |||
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"Population density. Population make up. Places of leisure. Poverty levels. That’s a lot of p’s I’m not sure it’s Uni’s I’m within ten miles of at least four and the areas doing ok. " I think you are pretty close here, there is a pattern especially on population density, where we live it's 480 people per square mile and 76 cases per 100k, London is around 5k people per square mile 250 per 100k, and Liverpool is 11k per square mile and approx 600+ cases per 100k. Bet if you looked up Nottingham, Newcastle, and all the others with high numbers and looked up those with low numbers too most will follow a similar pattern | |||
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"No one noticed the world as stopped turning? No wars , no famine, no terrorists attacks or natural disasters? Seems the news as nothing to report other than covid . Complete bollox if you ask me Complete bollox? Tell that to the umpteen thousands of people who've lost loved ones and friends to Covid 19 throughout the world. E I think she just means that the media are showing us absolutely nothing but covid all the time. It's like nothing else matters anymore. Global warming. Cancer. Pizza gate haha it's all gone "Thank you but it was not "she" that made the comments! It was "He" and I am sick if telling him to make it clear it is "HIS" opinion and comments! | |||
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"I've heard or read 3 people say in the last 24 hours that it doesnt exist. Whilst I fully understand people are suffering..mentally,econoinacally etc it still seems a bit of a jump to deny its existence. " Trumpism. Post truth world etc. | |||
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"No one noticed the world as stopped turning? No wars , no famine, no terrorists attacks or natural disasters? Seems the news as nothing to report other than covid . Complete bollox if you ask me " The logic here is baffling. "It only thing on TV therefore it not real" | |||
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