FabSwingers.com forum: Scottish mp STILL not resigned

By *ook OP Man
over a year ago

london

Seriously how is she still in a job???

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By *uttyjonnMan
over a year ago

SEA

80k a year plus expenses, pension etc and cannot be sacked. I'm not surprised she is trying to rough it out, especially at the age of 60. But i thought she would have gone by now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She should have resigned definitely. What she did was appalling.

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

"She should have resigned definitely. What she did was appalling. "

Does not look like she has any intentions to resign so why has she not been sacked?.

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By *uttyjonnMan
over a year ago

SEA

"She should have resigned definitely. What she did was appalling.

Does not look like she has any intentions to resign so why has she not been sacked?."

I don't think MPs can be sacked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are all self serving .

Why would she resign from the gravy train.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Apart from taking the train she also went to church. She says in her defence "the rules are muddled"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She can’t be sacked - she has been removed from the SNP as a MP so she is sitting as an independent- she either needs to resign or be subject to a recall petition where a % of her constituents need to say we want her out then there is a by election but apart from that any political party can’t do any more - it’s down to her

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As an MP surely she knew you have to self isolate if you have tested positive.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

I'm puzzled why she chose to have the test if she wasn't going to isolate.

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By *eedsmale36Man
over a year ago

Leeds

Are the Scottish MP’s getting the £3500 pay rise like the English MP’s ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She is a nasty bit of work typical politician do as I say not as I do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are the Scottish MP’s getting the £3500 pay rise like the English MP’s ?

Pay rise applies to all MP’s

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"Are the Scottish MP’s getting the £3500 pay rise like the English MP’s ?

Pay rise applies to all MP’s"

It does but that pay rise is a long way from being signed off yet.

She cannot be sacked, doesn't fall within the parameters of a recall, so only she can resign. Pity the poor MPs that will have to sit next to her in the HoC!

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By *ackem5555Man
over a year ago

bishop auckland

She has said it was a BLIP and covid makes you think differently lol only politicians can use this crap and think we believe it

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By *eep.Man
over a year ago

Just a background character

Her party was swift and justified in removing her. Good luck to her trying to regain the trust of her constituents.

With her sort of contemptuous behaviour the Tory party will probably welcome her with open arms so there's a plan B for her

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By *eneral HysteriaMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

She's probably now filling her pockets and lining up a job outside politics for when she's either ousted by votes or steps down at an election to save face.

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

"Apart from taking the train she also went to church. She says in her defence "the rules are muddled""

It's funny how the rules are muddled when they affect the individual, but are clear and precise when they affect someone else.

A shame she can't be sacked.

A shame her moral compass is defective.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hope this reflects badly on the rest of the party in the election next year.

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By *i1971Man
over a year ago

Cornwall

"Apart from taking the train she also went to church. She says in her defence "the rules are muddled""

Lol - nothing muddled about it - positive test, isolate. Surely anyone would realise that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Seriously how is she still in a job??? "

Typical politicians hoping it will go away and be forgotten about But they’re just human like you and me If your in a position of responsibility leading by example and you breach that do you simply resign or do you then show the wrong doing stay in your position at put it right?

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

You should all know by now, it's one rule for MPs and another for everybody else

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

She says: (virus) 'makes you do things out of character'.

Well there you have it. She was behaving like a Zombie.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Hope this reflects badly on the rest of the party in the election next year. "

The party who sacked her?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So if you were on an £ 80K a year job with more perks than soft mick you wouldn't be a bit reluctant to walk the plank.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"She has said it was a BLIP and covid makes you think differently lol only politicians can use this crap and think we believe it"

She could have said she needed to go to Edinburgh to test her eyes. Perfectly plausible.

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By *lbinoGorillaMan
over a year ago

Redditch

"Are the Scottish MP’s getting the £3500 pay rise like the English MP’s ?

Don't forget the £10,000 increase in expenses they awarded themselves right at the start of lockdown because they'd be working from home

How the fuck does that work? Why do you need more money to travel less?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"So if you were on an £ 80K a year job with more perks than soft mick you wouldn't be a bit reluctant to walk the plank."

Well everyone would do the same

A slightly flawed argument.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are the Scottish MP’s getting the £3500 pay rise like the English MP’s ?

i would assume so as they are all doing the same job for the same parliament ... there is no differentiation here by their region

the differences would be is she was a MSP (member of scottish parliament) rather than an MP with a scottish constituency

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Apart from taking the train she also went to church. She says in her defence "the rules are muddled"

It's funny how the rules are muddled when they affect the individual, but are clear and precise when they affect someone else.

A shame she can't be sacked.

A shame her moral compass is defective.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are the Scottish MP’s getting the £3500 pay rise like the English MP’s ?

She’s an MP not an MSP. Doesn’t matter what country you’re from.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Seriously how is she still in a job???

it is not possible to put this right... time machines to go back snd change actions do not exist , resignation is as close to getting it right as is possible

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hope this reflects badly on the rest of the party in the election next year. "

i dont even vote SNP but i disagree with this ... the party did everything in their power to make it clear she was not welcome, they disapproved of her actions and they expected her to resign ... there was nothing more they could have done

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By *oistknickersCouple
over a year ago

London

Nothing surprises me about an MP there’s something fundamentally different in the make up of a person who thinks they know what’s best for people, the country, education or whatever, there’s an arrogant streak sometimes narcissistic you can see by the lack self awareness.

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By *orrow my wifeCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

She surely cannot carry on ? It's only a matter of time surely?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Nothing surprises me about an MP there’s something fundamentally different in the make up of a person who thinks they know what’s best for people, the country, education or whatever, there’s an arrogant streak sometimes narcissistic you can see by the lack self awareness. "

Not every mp is like this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good for her. She's learnt her lesson the hard way and will probably be a much better MP in the future.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good for her. She's learnt her lesson the hard way and will probably be a much better MP in the future."

It means she might have learnt not to spout so much sanctimonious crap like many do on the forums. She is a reformed Covidiot

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"She surely cannot carry on ? It's only a matter of time surely?"

the only thing that will change it is she finally buckles under pressure.... unfortunately they cant sack her, and it doesn't coming the redress of the recall....

she can try and sit it out hope by 2024 all is forgiven if she wants to really play the long game!

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

As her constituency is a bit of a Labour/SNP flipper, I'm not sure that the SNP will really go after her with venom.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"She has said it was a BLIP and covid makes you think differently lol only politicians can use this crap and think we believe it"
Is it any wonder that people break the rules and have no respect for polititions

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham

"She has said it was a BLIP and covid makes you think differently lol only politicians can use this crap and think we believe itIs it any wonder that people break the rules and have no respect for polititions"
bit like Hancock who had a drink after the 10pm curfew. One rule for them and one for us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i do wonder if in hindsight rules will be rewritten so that if MPs are caught doing something that endangers the public they can be removed from position easier than getting all those public signatures

it must be one of very very few jobs that dont have a gross misconduct clause

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As her constituency is a bit of a Labour/SNP flipper, I'm not sure that the SNP will really go after her with venom. "

She is no longer a member of the SNP, so she will have to stand as an independent. The SNP has already withdrawn the whip and called upon her to resign. Neither they, nor anyone else can sack her as an MP so I'm not sure what else they are supposed to do really. Sturgeon has been vociferous in her condemnation of Ferrier, but the woman is determined to cling on to her seat for as long as she possibly can, so there is no point in attempting to blame the SNP for her misdemeanours.

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By *rystal Tipps - AlistairCouple
over a year ago

livingston

Why should she resign ( not an SNP supporter ) as the precedent was set by Dominic Cummings during lockdown when he would not resign or sacked for doing something similar, 2 sets of rules, them and us.

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By *uliaChrisCouple
over a year ago

westerham

"Hope this reflects badly on the rest of the party in the election next year. "

I can’t stand the SNP but this really has got nothing to do with them. It’s not a party political issue.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Why should she resign ( not an SNP supporter ) as the precedent was set by Dominic Cummings during lockdown when he would not resign or sacked for doing something similar, 2 sets of rules, them and us.

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Not quiet the same is it guidelines v law, car v public transport.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So if you were on an £ 80K a year job with more perks than soft mick you wouldn't be a bit reluctant to walk the plank.

Well everyone would do the same

A slightly flawed argument. "

What's happened to the famous fab quote, don't judge till u walk in their shoes?

Guessing it only applies to others right

I'm not condoning it at all but I'd guess most here would do what she's doing. Most of her peers are probably advising her to ride it out if she can.

Wonder how many on here have broken one of the covid rules? Everyone I'd bet my money one, and doesn't need to be deliberate to be broken.

If you wish to state there's a difference, I'll agree with you, but then I'll say how may of you have deliberately broken the speed limit, lied or stolen company time?

So they may have done wrong but careful about throwing the stone.

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By *ook OP Man
over a year ago

london

Well mr magic fingers that may be the case yes We have all broken rules... but she’s a fucking mp preaching about breaking rules!!! Your arguement is total bollox... she knew she had Covid and travelled ! She deliberately put other people at risk ... she should be removed from her position gross misconduct... no arguments about ‘ well we all break rules ‘ etc...

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By *un4us2getherCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Well mr magic fingers that may be the case yes We have all broken rules... but she’s a fucking mp preaching about breaking rules!!! Your arguement is total bollox... she knew she had Covid and travelled ! She deliberately put other people at risk ... she should be removed from her position gross misconduct... no arguments about ‘ well we all break rules ‘ etc..."

And how do you propose she is removed from her position. She cant be sacked ?

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"As her constituency is a bit of a Labour/SNP flipper, I'm not sure that the SNP will really go after her with venom.

Its more a case of maybe allowing a resurgent Labour party the chance to snatch the seat back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As far as I am aware being covid +ve does not carry a jail sentence of more than 1 year so she is perfectly within her right to carry on and stand as an MP at the next election.

9 months ago this was not a criminal offence and she was elected before the emergency legislation was put in place so no parliamentary law has been broken.

I rest my case Mi lord.

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By *orrow my wifeCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

He didn't ha e covid !! Hers was a lot more irresponsible... no comparison really

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By *orrow my wifeCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"So if you were on an £ 80K a year job with more perks than soft mick you wouldn't be a bit reluctant to walk the plank.

Well everyone would do the same

A slightly flawed argument.

What's happened to the famous fab quote, don't judge till u walk in their shoes?

Guessing it only applies to others right

I'm not condoning it at all but I'd guess most here would do what she's doing. Most of her peers are probably advising her to ride it out if she can.

Wonder how many on here have broken one of the covid rules? Everyone I'd bet my money one, and doesn't need to be deliberate to be broken.

If you wish to state there's a difference, I'll agree with you, but then I'll say how may of you have deliberately broken the speed limit, lied or stolen company time?

So they may have done wrong but careful about throwing the stone."

Think of the scale of her rule breaking though !

Travelling on a train while I knowing she had the virus ... almost trump like stupidity and selfishness

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By *iddle ManMan
over a year ago

Walsall

For whatever reason she's not going to go on her own, so why is she not being sacked, what she did was what is wrong with the country and why its spreading so badly, she knew she had symptoms, enough to warrenty a test then when she knew she had it, went back again making numerous public transport journeys. All that and they are trying to stop Joe public mixing with each other. Pull the other one. Just one of many reasons this thing is a joke.

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes

"Seriously how is she still in a job??? "

It's odd she has not resigned especially given she rightly called for Cummings to resign

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So if you were on an £ 80K a year job with more perks than soft mick you wouldn't be a bit reluctant to walk the plank.

Well everyone would do the same

A slightly flawed argument.

What's happened to the famous fab quote, don't judge till u walk in their shoes?

Guessing it only applies to others right

I'm not condoning it at all but I'd guess most here would do what she's doing. Most of her peers are probably advising her to ride it out if she can.

Wonder how many on here have broken one of the covid rules? Everyone I'd bet my money one, and doesn't need to be deliberate to be broken.

If you wish to state there's a difference, I'll agree with you, but then I'll say how may of you have deliberately broken the speed limit, lied or stolen company time?

So they may have done wrong but careful about throwing the stone.

Think of the scale of her rule breaking though !

Travelling on a train while I knowing she had the virus ... almost trump like stupidity and selfishness "

Sorry but no I don't see it. She most likely traveled first class, may have worn a mask too, doesn't excuse it but maybe not as overtly selfish as you are implying.

Speeding isn't as selfish nor a dangerous act I'm guessing.

I still stand by what I said earlier.

I just find too much mob mentality prevalent, people just frustrated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Seriously how is she still in a job???

It's odd she has not resigned especially given she rightly called for Cummings to resign"

Now this is agree with. Inconsistent at best.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Seriously how is she still in a job???

It's odd she has not resigned especially given she rightly called for Cummings to resign"

It's not odd, she's just seriously lacking in principles, like quite a few of her fellow MPs, apparently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As her constituency is a bit of a Labour/SNP flipper, I'm not sure that the SNP will really go after her with venom.

Its more a case of maybe allowing a resurgent Labour party the chance to snatch the seat back. "

That's a good one.

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

"She has said it was a BLIP and covid makes you think differently lol only politicians can use this crap and think we believe itIs it any wonder that people break the rules and have no respect for polititionsbit like Hancock who had a drink after the 10pm curfew. One rule for them and one for us

Nothing like Hancock, first he denies that he did.

Second and more important she knew she had had done wrong as she had been shouting for Dominic Cummings to be sacked for his car journey.

She is just a lair who is milking the electorate for all she can get.

Perhaps she might get a £10,000 fine for her two offences, but I doubt it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She won't go.

There is no accountability with mps anymore. The fact the are getting a pay rise while loads are losing or have lost work shows you how out if touch they are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"For whatever reason she's not going to go on her own, so why is she not being sacked, what she did was what is wrong with the country and why its spreading so badly, she knew she had symptoms, enough to warrenty a test then when she knew she had it, went back again making numerous public transport journeys. All that and they are trying to stop Joe public mixing with each other. Pull the other one. Just one of many reasons this thing is a joke. "

have you looked this up or even read the thread ?

she has been removed from the SNP and strong pressure for her to quit has been applied.. the power/ process to sack her does not exist unless 59% of her constituents put it in writing ... chances of getting that level of engagement from people we can barely get to vote in the first place is not going to happen

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes

have you looked this up or even read the thread ?

That is indeed the sad fact of the matter that she can't be sacked as an MP but only suspended from the snp. It looks like only her integrity and moral compass will remove her which she seems to be lacking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

sorry typo 50%

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Come on SNP thingy MP, stand up for us Covidiots and form the covidiots party.

Vote covidiot, you know it makes no sense

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"sorry typo 50% "
It only needs 10% of voters to recall an MP

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"sorry typo 50% It only needs 10% of voters to recall an MP "

i must have misread an article then... but wouldn't this mean MPs that had just won could be recalled by a minority just to stop someone they didn't want winning?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They can only be recalled if they are found guilty of wrongdoing that fits a certain criteria

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By *ax777Man
over a year ago

Not here

"They can only be recalled if they are found guilty of wrongdoing that fits a certain criteria

Indeed!

MPs can be recalled only under certain circumstances

If they are convicted in the UK of an offence and sentenced or ordered to be imprisoned or detained and all appeals have been exhausted (and the sentence does not lead to automatic disqualification from being an MP);

If they are suspended from the House following report and recommended sanction from the Committee on Standards for a specified period (at least 10 sitting days, or at least 14 days if sitting days are not specified).;

If they are convicted of an offence under section 10 of the Parliamentary Standards Act 2009 (making false or misleading Parliamentary allowances

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By *ocusMan
over a year ago

Cambridge

She should resign but...Cummings didn’t resign (I know he’s not an MP. Your job shouldn’t make a difference if you break lockdown) or get sacked. MPs in the government defended him so they set a precedent.

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By *rkiteMan
over a year ago

wakefield

Just a little input about MP. I've worked for some of them one in particular most of my working life

Obviously I dare not mention any names.

They all had one thing in common they all treated me like sh*t. So I don't expect much from them. Maybe it could have been me just being unlucky.

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By *ark Knight 2017Man
over a year ago

Ware

Probably got a bit confused having a late drink with Cock, Cuntings and Al Johnson in the commons bar.

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By *candiumWoman
over a year ago

oban

I thought the rules were if you had a positive test you isolate at home? If you are in London and you live in Glasgow, how the feck else do you get home?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I thought the rules were if you had a positive test you isolate at home? If you are in London and you live in Glasgow, how the feck else do you get home?"

hire a car, or stay at your second home in london that most MPs have for when there for work?

even renting and air bnb and sticking it on expenses would have been a more suitable option

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"I thought the rules were if you had a positive test you isolate at home? If you are in London and you live in Glasgow, how the feck else do you get home?"

You isolate where you are. If that's a hotel, holiday rental, your parent's house or your own home. As others have said, there are far more "secure" ways to travel from London to Scotland eg hiring a car. Frankly, she should have spoken with her employers and explained everything. I'd imagine they'd have arranged suitable transport or accommodation for her, probably at our expense.

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By *oistknickersCouple
over a year ago

London

"She is a nasty bit of work typical politician do as I say not as I do."

Yes, you’re spot on (nearly) all politicians are narcissistic so don’t be surprised when they put their needs or wants above others peoples rights.

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By *ook OP Man
over a year ago

london

Now she was arrested and hopefully should be sacked? Or resigned? Anyone know ?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Now she was arrested and hopefully should be sacked? Or resigned? Anyone know ? "

All I can find is this from 2wks ago:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jan/04/scottish-mp-margaret-ferrier-arrested-over-alleged-covid-rule-breach

"The SNP suspended its review of Ferrier’s membership pending the police investigation. Nevertheless, Ferrier has been sitting as an independent MP in the Commons since 1 October after the party withdrew the whip from her."

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By *entlemanrogueMan
over a year ago

Motherwell

"Seriously how is she still in a job??? "

i was told she still had a job as she cannot be fired, she was voted in by her constituents and thats that.

The real question is, why is BOJO still in a job?

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By *entlemanrogueMan
over a year ago

Motherwell

what about the Tories that did very similar, Rees Mogg going to a castle to check his eye sight come on now.. and Gove I cant remember what that toad did, but i know it was similar.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not to mention the SNP nonce that is still getting paid after texting 16 year old boys.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"what about the Tories that did very similar, Rees Mogg going to a castle to check his eye sight come on now.. and Gove I cant remember what that toad did, but i know it was similar."

That was Cummings

Reece mogg went To a church, I think.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"Now she was arrested and hopefully should be sacked? Or resigned? Anyone know ?

All I can find is this from 2wks ago:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jan/04/scottish-mp-margaret-ferrier-arrested-over-alleged-covid-rule-breach

and was arrested and charged with culpable and reckless conduct on 4th January this year

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By *ax777Man
over a year ago

Not here

"what about the Tories that did very similar, Rees Mogg going to a castle to check his eye sight come on now.. and Gove I cant remember what that toad did, but i know it was similar.

That was Cummings

Reece mogg went To a church, I think."

I believe Stephen Kinnock was the first MP to have broken lockdown rules, driving a round trip of 150 miles to deliver ‘essential supplies’ to his parents on his father’s birthday.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"what about the Tories that did very similar, Rees Mogg going to a castle to check his eye sight come on now.. and Gove I cant remember what that toad did, but i know it was similar.

That was Cummings

Reece mogg went To a church, I think.

I believe Stephen Kinnock was the first MP to have broken lockdown rules, driving a round trip of 150 miles to deliver ‘essential supplies’ to his parents on his father’s birthday."

Does he get a prize?

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By *ax777Man
over a year ago

Not here

"what about the Tories that did very similar, Rees Mogg going to a castle to check his eye sight come on now.. and Gove I cant remember what that toad did, but i know it was similar.

That was Cummings

Reece mogg went To a church, I think.

I believe Stephen Kinnock was the first MP to have broken lockdown rules, driving a round trip of 150 miles to deliver ‘essential supplies’ to his parents on his father’s birthday.

Does he get a prize?"

Purely in the interests of balance. A notion you wouldn’t have the slightest clue about.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"what about the Tories that did very similar, Rees Mogg going to a castle to check his eye sight come on now.. and Gove I cant remember what that toad did, but i know it was similar.

That was Cummings

Reece mogg went To a church, I think.

I believe Stephen Kinnock was the first MP to have broken lockdown rules, driving a round trip of 150 miles to deliver ‘essential supplies’ to his parents on his father’s birthday.

Does he get a prize?

Purely in the interests of balance. A notion you wouldn’t have the slightest clue about."

But I didn't mention Cummings.. I was correcting the poster who did

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By *ax777Man
over a year ago

Not here

"what about the Tories that did very similar, Rees Mogg going to a castle to check his eye sight come on now.. and Gove I cant remember what that toad did, but i know it was similar.

That was Cummings

Reece mogg went To a church, I think.

I believe Stephen Kinnock was the first MP to have broken lockdown rules, driving a round trip of 150 miles to deliver ‘essential supplies’ to his parents on his father’s birthday.

Does he get a prize?

Purely in the interests of balance. A notion you wouldn’t have the slightest clue about.

But I didn't mention Cummings.. I was correcting the poster who did "

and I bet that it hurt that someone else mentioned Cummings before you did. As I said, purely in the interests of balance.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"what about the Tories that did very similar, Rees Mogg going to a castle to check his eye sight come on now.. and Gove I cant remember what that toad did, but i know it was similar.

That was Cummings

Reece mogg went To a church, I think.

I believe Stephen Kinnock was the first MP to have broken lockdown rules, driving a round trip of 150 miles to deliver ‘essential supplies’ to his parents on his father’s birthday.

Does he get a prize?

Purely in the interests of balance. A notion you wouldn’t have the slightest clue about.

But I didn't mention Cummings.. I was correcting the poster who did

and I bet that it hurt that someone else mentioned Cummings before you did. As I said, purely in the interests of balance."

#notobsessed.

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By *ax777Man
over a year ago

Not here

"what about the Tories that did very similar, Rees Mogg going to a castle to check his eye sight come on now.. and Gove I cant remember what that toad did, but i know it was similar.

That was Cummings

Reece mogg went To a church, I think.

I believe Stephen Kinnock was the first MP to have broken lockdown rules, driving a round trip of 150 miles to deliver ‘essential supplies’ to his parents on his father’s birthday.

Does he get a prize?

Purely in the interests of balance. A notion you wouldn’t have the slightest clue about.

But I didn't mention Cummings.. I was correcting the poster who did

and I bet that it hurt that someone else mentioned Cummings before you did. As I said, purely in the interests of balance.

#notobsessed."

Don’t flatter yourself. ??

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Now she was arrested and hopefully should be sacked? Or resigned? Anyone know ?

All I can find is this from 2wks ago:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jan/04/scottish-mp-margaret-ferrier-arrested-over-alleged-covid-rule-breach

and was arrested and charged with culpable and reckless conduct on 4th January this year

That's what the Guardian article is about. Her arrest. And within that article, there's no reference to her losing her MP job, only the SNP whip. She's sitting as an independent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now she was arrested and hopefully should be sacked? Or resigned? Anyone know ?

All I can find is this from 2wks ago:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jan/04/scottish-mp-margaret-ferrier-arrested-over-alleged-covid-rule-breach

and was arrested and charged with culpable and reckless conduct on 4th January this year

That's what the Guardian article is about. Her arrest. And within that article, there's no reference to her losing her MP job, only the SNP whip. She's sitting as an independent."

MPs can't be sacked

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By *ecretlyASoftieWoman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly

"Now she was arrested and hopefully should be sacked? Or resigned? Anyone know ?

All I can find is this from 2wks ago:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jan/04/scottish-mp-margaret-ferrier-arrested-over-alleged-covid-rule-breach

and was arrested and charged with culpable and reckless conduct on 4th January this year

That's what the Guardian article is about. Her arrest. And within that article, there's no reference to her losing her MP job, only the SNP whip. She's sitting as an independent.

MPs can't be sacked"

AFAIK They can be removed if a certain % vote for it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now she was arrested and hopefully should be sacked? Or resigned? Anyone know ?

All I can find is this from 2wks ago:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jan/04/scottish-mp-margaret-ferrier-arrested-over-alleged-covid-rule-breach

and was arrested and charged with culpable and reckless conduct on 4th January this year

That's what the Guardian article is about. Her arrest. And within that article, there's no reference to her losing her MP job, only the SNP whip. She's sitting as an independent.

MPs can't be sacked

AFAIK They can be removed if a certain % vote for it. "

Correct. It's only 10% but must come from constituents via a petition.

There are also only certain things that they can petition a recall for but not sure exactly what those reasons are

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford

As if an MP of any party is going to resign and lose all the perks and money they enjoy.

Politicians and integrity are not two words that are ever used in the same sentence !

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"As if an MP of any party is going to resign and lose all the perks and money they enjoy.

Politicians and integrity are not two words that are ever used in the same sentence !

I don't think she is in the party now.

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By *ane DTV/TS
over a year ago

Glasgow (for now)

A custodial prison sentence of a year or less (longer sentences automatically disqualify MPs without need for a petition due to the Representation of the People Act 1981);

Suspension from the House of at least 10 sitting days or 14 calendar days, following a report by the Committee on Standards;

A conviction for providing false or misleading expenses claims.

Are the 3 routes to recall.

I suspect that it will be route 2, but only after the court case is concluded and it can return to the HoC Standards Committee.

Until then she is still supping at the public teat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A custodial prison sentence of a year or less (longer sentences automatically disqualify MPs without need for a petition due to the Representation of the People Act 1981);

Suspension from the House of at least 10 sitting days or 14 calendar days, following a report by the Committee on Standards;

A conviction for providing false or misleading expenses claims.

Are the 3 routes to recall.

I suspect that it will be route 2, but only after the court case is concluded and it can return to the HoC Standards Committee.

Until then she is still supping at the public teat."

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By *ook OP Man
over a year ago

london

Thankyou _ane d... it’s still outrageous that she’s in a job and why can’t MPs be sacked if they commit a crime?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thankyou _ane d... it’s still outrageous that she’s in a job and why can’t MPs be sacked if they commit a crime? "

Heard about a few more Mps had been caught in a pub in wales.

We should sack them all, by all, i mean each and everyone one, and start afresh.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Thankyou _ane d... it’s still outrageous that she’s in a job and why can’t MPs be sacked if they commit a crime? "

What crime did she committ?

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"Thankyou _ane d... it’s still outrageous that she’s in a job and why can’t MPs be sacked if they commit a crime?

What crime did she committ?"

Answer is further up the thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thankyou _ane d... it’s still outrageous that she’s in a job and why can’t MPs be sacked if they commit a crime?

What crime did she committ?"

Culpable an Reckless Conduct is the offence. She was formally charged with that.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Thankyou _ane d... it’s still outrageous that she’s in a job and why can’t MPs be sacked if they commit a crime?

What crime did she committ?

Culpable an Reckless Conduct is the offence. She was formally charged with that."

Didnt she go to court?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thankyou _ane d... it’s still outrageous that she’s in a job and why can’t MPs be sacked if they commit a crime?

What crime did she committ?

Culpable an Reckless Conduct is the offence. She was formally charged with that.

Didnt she go to court?"

Not as far as I'm aware.

Police Scotland have sent their findings to the Procurator Fiscal. It's down to them whether the choose to pursue it or not.

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By *iercedyvonneTV/TS
over a year ago

Glasgow

While Cummings and other politicians that have broken the rules (even Nicola did it) are total idiots, it's relatively minor compared to travelling on a train after having a positive test.

It's an unfair comparison.

I hope she goes to jail. It's just a shame it has taken so long - this should have been quick to serve as an example to prevent others doing similar things.

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By *ighlander80884Man
over a year ago

Inverness

"Thankyou _ane d... it’s still outrageous that she’s in a job and why can’t MPs be sacked if they commit a crime?

What crime did she committ?

Culpable an Reckless Conduct is the offence. She was formally charged with that.

Didnt she go to court?

Not as far as I'm aware.

Police Scotland have sent their findings to the Procurator Fiscal. It's down to them whether the choose to pursue it or not."

Courts have years of backlogs at present.

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