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"From 04:00hrs Saturday 3rd Oct people on any flight flying in from Turkey and landing at a Scottish airport must fully isolate for 14 days A friend flew in late Friday night before the 04:00am deadline and he and his family are addiment they are not going to isolate. Both Husband and wife are going to their place of work Monday Morning both young kids going to grandparents are they doing right or wrong? should they fully isolate incase someone was infected on flight? or do they ignore and say "it wont happen to us" whats your views and comments folks? " If they made it back before the deadline, then they are under no legal obligation to isolate. It also means they don't qualify for financial assistance. There has to be a time based cut off somewhere and you will never get everyone. The certainly should take all the precautions they can though to minimise contact with other people for a couple of weeks. | |||
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"Everyone flying into the country should be made to isolate. Can't believe how lapsy daisy British airports are." With this logic everyone going out of his house should be made to isolate on return. | |||
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"Everyone flying into the country should be made to isolate. Can't believe how lapsy daisy British airports are." Our rate of infection is very high here, some countries are much lower than ours, I'm surprised some countries let us in to be honest | |||
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"Everyone flying into the country should be made to isolate. Can't believe how lapsy daisy British airports are. Our rate of infection is very high here, some countries are much lower than ours, I'm surprised some countries let us in to be honest "Same. I guess it's because a lot of countries value our economic contribution. | |||
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"Everyone flying into the country should be made to isolate. Can't believe how lapsy daisy British airports are. Our rate of infection is very high here, some countries are much lower than ours, I'm surprised some countries let us in to be honest
Same. I guess it's because a lot of countries value our economic contribution."Yes, no doubt | |||
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"Everyone flying into the country should be made to isolate. Can't believe how lapsy daisy British airports are. With this logic everyone going out of his house should be made to isolate on return. " Not the same. I can leave the house and not be within 2 metres of anyone. Going through an airport with hundreds of other people and being sat in close contact with others on an aeroplane is very very different. | |||
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"I don't understand why you would post this on a swinging site to ask strangers to cast judgment. " It's posted in the virus section, asking an opinion | |||
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"Everyone flying into the country should be made to isolate. Can't believe how lapsy daisy British airports are. With this logic everyone going out of his house should be made to isolate on return. Not the same. I can leave the house and not be within 2 metres of anyone. Going through an airport with hundreds of other people and being sat in close contact with others on an aeroplane is very very different. " Valid point, but lots of people are leaving the house to go on a public transport, places of work where simply social distancing couldn't work, pub etc etc | |||
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"Extortionate fines in place to try to deter because they know they can't police it. " If th4y were finding you 50 quid then I would agree it couldn't be policed. But I think what you call extortionate will make it possible to police...so if you cant take the hit dont do the trip. | |||
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"Simple just stop all holidays and flights and when they are at it close the pubs I past two pubs last night that are normally full on a Saturday night and there was about 12 people between both pubs at 9.30 " I would tend to agree....but if they closed them they would have to pay them  | |||
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"Simple just stop all holidays and flights and when they are at it close the pubs I past two pubs last night that are normally full on a Saturday night and there was about 12 people between both pubs at 9.30 I would tend to agree....but if they closed them they would have to pay them "Why? | |||
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"Extortionate fines in place to try to deter because they know they can't police it. " Then that was a good idea then wasn't it. | |||
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"Everyone flying into the country should be made to isolate. Can't believe how lapsy daisy British airports are." Would it have been a better idea would be to issue a mandatory covid test to all arrivals and factor the cost into their air ticket or make it a condition of entry? | |||
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"Simple just stop all holidays and flights and when they are at it close the pubs I past two pubs last night that are normally full on a Saturday night and there was about 12 people between both pubs at 9.30 I would tend to agree....but if they closed them they would have to pay them
Why?"Which part are you asking why to? | |||
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"I don't understand why you would post this on a swinging site to ask strangers to cast judgment. It's posted in the virus section, asking an opinion
I get that but why. These people are apparently his friends "Well I don't think he's said anything unkind, it's just a talking point | |||
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"My friend went to europe a couple of months ago. Went from croatia, to italy, to Malta. I believe he missed the isolation period for travellers from Croatia to italy by a couple of days, then missed the malta deadline by 4 hours and 5 minutes. He didn't have to quarantine and he didn't kill his granny." | |||
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"From 04:00hrs Saturday 3rd Oct people on any flight flying in from Turkey and landing at a Scottish airport must fully isolate for 14 days A friend flew in late Friday night before the 04:00am deadline and he and his family are addiment they are not going to isolate. Both Husband and wife are going to their place of work Monday Morning both young kids going to grandparents are they doing right or wrong? should they fully isolate incase someone was infected on flight? or do they ignore and say "it wont happen to us" whats your views and comments folks? " Just because they went on Holiday doesn't mean that they have caught the Virus - Just because they are coming home hours before a deadline doesn't mean that they have caught the Virus. If they haven't caught it in - those scenarios - then chances are that they have been careful while away and don't have it now. And like you say already - before the 4am cutoff they don't legally have to do anything. The Law really can't run on what ifs. Otherwise you would be screaming foul play if you were prosecuted for traveling within a legal speed limit.  | |||
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"Simple just stop all holidays and flights and when they are at it close the pubs I past two pubs last night that are normally full on a Saturday night and there was about 12 people between both pubs at 9.30 I would tend to agree....but if they closed them they would have to pay them
Why?
Which part are you asking why to?"Pay them | |||
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"Simple just stop all holidays and flights and when they are at it close the pubs I past two pubs last night that are normally full on a Saturday night and there was about 12 people between both pubs at 9.30 I would tend to agree....but if they closed them they would have to pay them
Why?
Which part are you asking why to?
Pay them"Through unemployment benefits..if they stay open they still have a job...be it they are putting off the inevitable.. | |||
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"Extortionate fines in place to try to deter because they know they can't police it. If th4y were finding you 50 quid then I would agree it couldn't be policed. But I think what you call extortionate will make it possible to police...so if you cant take the hit dont do the trip. " Many more people who refuse to isolate aren’t being caught than adhere. The government know they can’t stop the majority, so by making it a big one they’re hoping it’s policing itself by deterring. I know several families recently returned who are taking their chances. | |||
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"Extortionate fines in place to try to deter because they know they can't police it. If th4y were finding you 50 quid then I would agree it couldn't be policed. But I think what you call extortionate will make it possible to police...so if you cant take the hit dont do the trip. Many more people who refuse to isolate aren’t being caught than adhere. The government know they can’t stop the majority, so by making it a big one they’re hoping it’s policing itself by deterring. I know several families recently returned who are taking their chances. " Tbh I hope they get caught if that's the case....they took the holiday knowing there was every chance of isolation measures could be brought in. I know someone will point out that they might have booked it before the pandemic...but that's just bad luck. We have the rules to protect the many. | |||
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"Extortionate fines in place to try to deter because they know they can't police it. If th4y were finding you 50 quid then I would agree it couldn't be policed. But I think what you call extortionate will make it possible to police...so if you cant take the hit dont do the trip. Many more people who refuse to isolate aren’t being caught than adhere. The government know they can’t stop the majority, so by making it a big one they’re hoping it’s policing itself by deterring. I know several families recently returned who are taking their chances. Tbh I hope they get caught if that's the case....they took the holiday knowing there was every chance of isolation measures could be brought in. I know someone will point out that they might have booked it before the pandemic...but that's just bad luck. We have the rules to protect the many." | |||
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"Everyone flying into the country should be made to isolate. Can't believe how lapsy daisy British airports are. With this logic everyone going out of his house should be made to isolate on return. "
ive just been abroad and have 2 days left of isolation ... i am no more ill or infectious from going abroad than i could have been if i went to tesco
i understand the reason for quarantine where the rates are higher than the uk so you are increasing your risk (where i was was actually much lower) and i obeyed the rules to the letter because its the responsible thing to do
however the reality is unless we can eradicate the virus from our own country and then start isolating everyone entering (like they have done in perth) there really isnt a huge benefit to isolating everyone and the have closed the gate long after the horse has bolted | |||
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"Everyone flying into the country should be made to isolate. Can't believe how lapsy daisy British airports are. With this logic everyone going out of his house should be made to isolate on return.
ive just been abroad and have 2 days left of isolation ... i am no more ill or infectious from going abroad than i could have been if i went to tesco
i understand the reason for quarantine where the rates are higher than the uk so you are increasing your risk (where i was was actually much lower) and i obeyed the rules to the letter because its the responsible thing to do
however the reality is unless we can eradicate the virus from our own country and then start isolating everyone entering (like they have done in perth) there really isnt a huge benefit to isolating everyone and the have closed the gate long after the horse has bolted "We are flying back tonight and have to isolate. In the whole time away ( including going through the airport and on the plane) we've actually interacted with less people than we'd normally do back in UK. Still believe the Swedish and few others more relaxed aproach is far better in a long run, then all the half measures most of the world has implemented. | |||
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"Everyone flying into the country should be made to isolate. Can't believe how lapsy daisy British airports are. With this logic everyone going out of his house should be made to isolate on return.
ive just been abroad and have 2 days left of isolation ... i am no more ill or infectious from going abroad than i could have been if i went to tesco
i understand the reason for quarantine where the rates are higher than the uk so you are increasing your risk (where i was was actually much lower) and i obeyed the rules to the letter because its the responsible thing to do
however the reality is unless we can eradicate the virus from our own country and then start isolating everyone entering (like they have done in perth) there really isnt a huge benefit to isolating everyone and the have closed the gate long after the horse has bolted We are flying back tonight and have to isolate. In the whole time away ( including going through the airport and on the plane) we've actually interacted with less people than we'd normally do back in UK. Still believe the Swedish and few others more relaxed aproach is far better in a long run, then all the half measures most of the world has implemented.
"its a great excuse to spend a couple of lazy weekends extending the holiday vibe and to decline any social events you didn’t want to go to anyway  “oh sorry i can’t ... quarantine “ | |||
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"Everyone flying into the country should be made to isolate. Can't believe how lapsy daisy British airports are. With this logic everyone going out of his house should be made to isolate on return.
ive just been abroad and have 2 days left of isolation ... i am no more ill or infectious from going abroad than i could have been if i went to tesco
i understand the reason for quarantine where the rates are higher than the uk so you are increasing your risk (where i was was actually much lower) and i obeyed the rules to the letter because its the responsible thing to do
however the reality is unless we can eradicate the virus from our own country and then start isolating everyone entering (like they have done in perth) there really isnt a huge benefit to isolating everyone and the have closed the gate long after the horse has bolted We are flying back tonight and have to isolate. In the whole time away ( including going through the airport and on the plane) we've actually interacted with less people than we'd normally do back in UK. Still believe the Swedish and few others more relaxed aproach is far better in a long run, then all the half measures most of the world has implemented.
its a great excuse to spend a couple of lazy weekends extending the holiday vibe and to decline any social events you didn’t want to go to anyway “oh sorry i can’t ... quarantine “ "No mother in law for two weeks, life is good | |||
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"I don't understand why you would post this on a swinging site to ask strangers to cast judgment. It's posted in the virus section, asking an opinion
I get that but why. These people are apparently his friends
Well I don't think he's said anything unkind, it's just a talking point "I posted here because this part of the forum is for Covid-19 related issues and conversation The way I see it is that the covid-19 is active 24/7, it does not start contaminating flights at 04:00hrs onwards If you are flying home you may be bringing the virus with you without knowing or indeed you may have picked it up in-flight which is even worse as you will probably not have symptoms for 3 or 4 days or possibly longer During that time, you have met up with family, and also been back to work, working with work colleagues If it was myself, I would isolate or at least request testing before returning to work or coming into contact with others, I guess we are all different and have different views on what we should and should not do. | |||
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"I don't understand why you would post this on a swinging site to ask strangers to cast judgment. It's posted in the virus section, asking an opinion
I get that but why. These people are apparently his friends
Well I don't think he's said anything unkind, it's just a talking point
I posted here because this part of the forum is for Covid-19 related issues and conversation
The way I see it is that the covid-19 is active 24/7, it does not start contaminating flights at 04:00hrs onwards
If you are flying home you may be bringing the virus with you without knowing or indeed you may have picked it up in-flight which is even worse as you will probably not have symptoms for 3 or 4 days or possibly longer
During that time, you have met up with family, and also been back to work, working with work colleagues
If it was myself, I would isolate or at least request testing before returning to work or coming into contact with others,
I guess we are all different and have different views on what we should and should not do.
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"Everyone flying into the country should be made to isolate. Can't believe how lapsy daisy British airports are." | |||
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"I don't understand why you would post this on a swinging site to ask strangers to cast judgment. It's posted in the virus section, asking an opinion
I get that but why. These people are apparently his friends
Well I don't think he's said anything unkind, it's just a talking point
I posted here because this part of the forum is for Covid-19 related issues and conversation
The way I see it is that the covid-19 is active 24/7, it does not start contaminating flights at 04:00hrs onwards
If you are flying home you may be bringing the virus with you without knowing or indeed you may have picked it up in-flight which is even worse as you will probably not have symptoms for 3 or 4 days or possibly longer
During that time, you have met up with family, and also been back to work, working with work colleagues
If it was myself, I would isolate or at least request testing before returning to work or coming into contact with others,
I guess we are all different and have different views on what we should and should not do.
"But similarly - you could have just caught Covid from a Banana in Tesco or a fuel pump at Esso or a person who just coughed and you walked through the mist or the air-con in Marks and Spencer or any number of billion other places - just because someone has been on holiday makes them no more or no less a risk of having caught it than you right now this minute if you are in any public space. The virus can live on hard surfaces for up to 72 hours. Who went past your car and touched anything you might touch 50 hours later or any other hard surface. Go home and Isolate right now !!! | |||
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"There needs to be a cut off or you would be saying well what about the people the day before and the day before that. Tests aren’t accurate anyway, I know someone who had 4 negative tests and was that poorly they were taken to hospital and there it showed up in her bloods but not by a swab so how many think they are clear when they are not?" Hmmm...that's worrying... | |||
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"I don't understand why you would post this on a swinging site to ask strangers to cast judgment. It's posted in the virus section, asking an opinion
I get that but why. These people are apparently his friends
Well I don't think he's said anything unkind, it's just a talking point
I posted here because this part of the forum is for Covid-19 related issues and conversation
The way I see it is that the covid-19 is active 24/7, it does not start contaminating flights at 04:00hrs onwards
If you are flying home you may be bringing the virus with you without knowing or indeed you may have picked it up in-flight which is even worse as you will probably not have symptoms for 3 or 4 days or possibly longer
During that time, you have met up with family, and also been back to work, working with work colleagues
If it was myself, I would isolate or at least request testing before returning to work or coming into contact with others,
I guess we are all different and have different views on what we should and should not do.
But similarly - you could have just caught Covid from a Banana in Tesco or a fuel pump at Esso or a person who just coughed and you walked through the mist or the air-con in Marks and Spencer or any number of billion other places - just because someone has been on holiday makes them no more or no less a risk of having caught it than you right now this minute if you are in any public space. The virus can live on hard surfaces for up to 72 hours. Who went past your car and touched anything you might touch 50 hours later or any other hard surface.
Go home and Isolate right now !!!"in tesco you wear gloves & mask, and also clean hands on leaving, duration - 20 mins max Fuel stations provide gloves, you also have your own gloves, well perhaps "you dont" but most do, and you clean hands after, duration 2 - 3 mins a person coughing, ehhh social distancing, they would not get that close anyway + masks M&S again you wear masks & social distance with a minimum time spent in shop you say there is the same risk being in an open public space as there is on a packed aircraft with a 5 hour flight, then good luck to you if so many believe that then no wonder the UK is in such a bad place right now so many people have such a lack of understanding of this virus or they simply fail to believe. good luck. | |||
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"I don't understand why you would post this on a swinging site to ask strangers to cast judgment. It's posted in the virus section, asking an opinion
I get that but why. These people are apparently his friends
Well I don't think he's said anything unkind, it's just a talking point
I posted here because this part of the forum is for Covid-19 related issues and conversation
The way I see it is that the covid-19 is active 24/7, it does not start contaminating flights at 04:00hrs onwards
If you are flying home you may be bringing the virus with you without knowing or indeed you may have picked it up in-flight which is even worse as you will probably not have symptoms for 3 or 4 days or possibly longer
During that time, you have met up with family, and also been back to work, working with work colleagues
If it was myself, I would isolate or at least request testing before returning to work or coming into contact with others,
I guess we are all different and have different views on what we should and should not do.
But similarly - you could have just caught Covid from a Banana in Tesco or a fuel pump at Esso or a person who just coughed and you walked through the mist or the air-con in Marks and Spencer or any number of billion other places - just because someone has been on holiday makes them no more or no less a risk of having caught it than you right now this minute if you are in any public space. The virus can live on hard surfaces for up to 72 hours. Who went past your car and touched anything you might touch 50 hours later or any other hard surface.
Go home and Isolate right now !!!
in tesco you wear gloves & mask, and also clean hands on leaving, duration - 20 mins max
Fuel stations provide gloves, you also have your own gloves, well perhaps "you dont" but most do, and you clean hands after, duration 2 - 3 mins
a person coughing, ehhh social distancing, they would not get that close anyway + masks
M&S again you wear masks & social distance with a minimum time spent in shop
you say there is the same risk being in an open public space as there is on a packed aircraft with a 5 hour flight, then good luck to you
if so many believe that then no wonder the UK is in such a bad place right now
so many people have such a lack of understanding of this virus or they simply fail to believe.
good luck."when i go to the supermarket around only half the people are wearing masks, i have no idea how many of them used the hand sanitiser but we are all handling items on shelves and the cashier handles every item which we then touch again as we pack the shopping, i never see people wearing gloves in supermarkets but since they don’t help anyway that doesn’t bother me (they touch everything your skin would touch just the same) on my recent flight there was a grand total of 21 people ... we had a few rows each so were well spaced out masks must be worn from the minute you get inside one airport , all through the flight, til you leave the arriving airport (actually in tenerife i had to keep it on til inside my apartment as you wear them in the streets there too) the airports are practically empty the air hosts only bring the trolley down once and collect rubbish once to avoid too much interaction, all payments are made by contactless card you must ring the call bell to be allowed to use the bathroom so there is no queueing in the aisles and you aren't allowed to wander about the plane to stretch your legs like you normally would if you think a flight is of any higher risk than a trip to wetherspoons then i think you are incorrectly basing it on your flight experience pre covid and maybe you shouldn’t judge on what you clearly have no idea about | |||
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"I don't understand why you would post this on a swinging site to ask strangers to cast judgment. It's posted in the virus section, asking an opinion
I get that but why. These people are apparently his friends
Well I don't think he's said anything unkind, it's just a talking point
I posted here because this part of the forum is for Covid-19 related issues and conversation
The way I see it is that the covid-19 is active 24/7, it does not start contaminating flights at 04:00hrs onwards
If you are flying home you may be bringing the virus with you without knowing or indeed you may have picked it up in-flight which is even worse as you will probably not have symptoms for 3 or 4 days or possibly longer
During that time, you have met up with family, and also been back to work, working with work colleagues
If it was myself, I would isolate or at least request testing before returning to work or coming into contact with others,
I guess we are all different and have different views on what we should and should not do.
"this is a waste of test and part of the reason we don't have enough spare testing capacity for people who need it ... people who have expanded the guidelines for their own paranoia and convinced themselves its their moral obligation to ensure they are negative just because 
just wash your hands, wear a mask, keep a distance like everyone else has been told to | |||
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