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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Do you think that one day in the future we'll be telling our great grandkids about the time of the great virus and how it killed so many (like stories of WW2), or that we'll all be getting our yearly Covid jabs as pensioners because it's a part of everyday life (like influenza)?

Personally, I'm holding out hope for a vaccine and for it too die off over a couple of years but the similarities with the flu can't be ignored so I'd have to reluctantly go with option two

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"Do you think that one day in the future we'll be telling our great grandkids about the time of the great virus and how it killed so many (like stories of WW2), or that we'll all be getting our yearly Covid jabs as pensioners because it's a part of everyday life (like influenza)?

Personally, I'm holding out hope for a vaccine and for it too die off over a couple of years but the similarities with the flu can't be ignored so I'd have to reluctantly go with option two"

Hopefully like sars,mers, ebola, aids, stds etc we will all be aware of it and probably afraid of it but will live our lives around it but it will be a while yet

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

We will eventually live with it, just like we do with flu jabs. Those at higher risk will be more likely to get vaccinated. Maybe like in Asia we will become more sensitive to the fact that we all share the same living space and wear masks when we are ill, even with colds.

Public Health responses will be more finely tuned.

Our own knowledge will have increased beyond anything we had before.

Of course there will be those that - like now - that just hold on to the idea that the whole world made it up - but they never say why the whole world made it up.

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By *iddle ManMan
over a year ago

Walsall

I personally think in years to come we will still be feeling the economic costs of this virus, it will have long reaching impacts on the world but especially the so called developed countries.

The virus and death are still way below any level that will be talked about like a mass extinction, yet that is. I can't help but feel it will just become part of life in humans and socially acceptable.

Of course I could be wrong and it get far far worse and we will all still be socially distancing and a lack of grandkids as a result

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge

The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire."

Better get that magic crystal ball you have over to the WHO straight away. You will be an invaluable resource given your knowledge of the future.

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

The same as all the other health scares life goes on, medicines, vaccines and new procedures come online and we exist with it on our minds until the next big scare.

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By *orrow my wifeCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire."

Not as bad ??? Its already been more than bad....

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

Not as bad ??? Its already been more than bad...."

How so, this year so far there have been more than 100 million births and more than 40 million deaths of which 1 million may be connected to covid.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

Better get that magic crystal ball you have over to the WHO straight away. You will be an invaluable resource given your knowledge of the future."

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

Not as bad ??? Its already been more than bad....

How so, this year so far there have been more than 100 million births and more than 40 million deaths of which 1 million may be connected to covid."

People have died from something different than Covid?

Well knock me down with a feather

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

Not as bad ??? Its already been more than bad....

How so, this year so far there have been more than 100 million births and more than 40 million deaths of which 1 million may be connected to covid."

But wouldn't you be better saying what else they died from?

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

Not as bad ??? Its already been more than bad....

How so, this year so far there have been more than 100 million births and more than 40 million deaths of which 1 million may be connected to covid.

But wouldn't you be better saying what else they died from? "

I would suggest the majority died because they were old or frail ... plus ça change.

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By *tartingoutlondonCouple
over a year ago

London

Putting on my overly positive hat...

1. A vaccine will prove effective at some point. Rapid testing at point of use will mitigate the vast majority of risk and allow things to open up again. The two combined will ratchet things back to normality.

2. After a year or two of anaemic jobs, business and continued travel restrictions, things will start to open up and the pent up demand for experiences and living will start the roaring 20s properly.

3. The (hopeful) success of the mRNA based vaccines will expedite development of new vaccines for a whole bunch of annoying diseases like norovirus, ending the scourge of common diseases that steal time from us all in the winter months.

4. Countries that don't suck will send people out to find naturally occuring viruses (such as the various coronaviruses currently only present in bats and pangolins which can bind to human lung tissue) and will pre-emptively develop and test vaccines for them.

5. Infection control in all counties will take a big, permanent leap forwards, reducing the risk to everyone from future diseases, as well as giving loads of benefits towards reducing the spread of the usual winter bugs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire."

As everyone is being effected in much the same way economically, could you explain how we're going to be worse off?

Everyone is printing money and borrowing more than can ever be repaid in our lifetime.

To answer OP. It's here to stay, once people and countries feel they have some handle on it life will move forward again. Nothing ever stays the same, fact of life.

Once people have overcome and managed the fear of the unknown, they they step forward again and live life within their parameters. It's how everyone lives their lives everyday anyway.

A vaccine won't stop people getting it, but reduces it's impact on the body when it's got.

Currently it's estimated over 60% of the population are asymtomatic with it. The remaining consists of those who suffer/suffered from it, died from it it haven't contactd it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

As everyone is being effected in much the same way economically, could you explain how we're going to be worse off?

Everyone is printing money and borrowing more than can ever be repaid in our lifetime.

To answer OP. It's here to stay, once people and countries feel they have some handle on it life will move forward again. Nothing ever stays the same, fact of life.

Once people have overcome and managed the fear of the unknown, they they step forward again and live life within their parameters. It's how everyone lives their lives everyday anyway.

A vaccine won't stop people getting it, but reduces it's impact on the body when it's got.

Currently it's estimated over 60% of the population are asymtomatic with it. The remaining consists of those who suffer/suffered from it, died from it it haven't contactd it."

estimated by who?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Putting on my overly positive hat...

1. A vaccine will prove effective at some point. Rapid testing at point of use will mitigate the vast majority of risk and allow things to open up again. The two combined will ratchet things back to normality.

2. After a year or two of anaemic jobs, business and continued travel restrictions, things will start to open up and the pent up demand for experiences and living will start the roaring 20s properly.

3. The (hopeful) success of the mRNA based vaccines will expedite development of new vaccines for a whole bunch of annoying diseases like norovirus, ending the scourge of common diseases that steal time from us all in the winter months.

4. Countries that don't suck will send people out to find naturally occuring viruses (such as the various coronaviruses currently only present in bats and pangolins which can bind to human lung tissue) and will pre-emptively develop and test vaccines for them.

5. Infection control in all counties will take a big, permanent leap forwards, reducing the risk to everyone from future diseases, as well as giving loads of benefits towards reducing the spread of the usual winter bugs.

"

number 4 is a little scary in that messing about with these viruses also opens up the potential for us to introduce them to humans either accidentally or maliciously

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

As everyone is being effected in much the same way economically, could you explain how we're going to be worse off?

Everyone is printing money and borrowing more than can ever be repaid in our lifetime.

To answer OP. It's here to stay, once people and countries feel they have some handle on it life will move forward again. Nothing ever stays the same, fact of life.

Once people have overcome and managed the fear of the unknown, they they step forward again and live life within their parameters. It's how everyone lives their lives everyday anyway.

A vaccine won't stop people getting it, but reduces it's impact on the body when it's got.

Currently it's estimated over 60% of the population are asymtomatic with it. The remaining consists of those who suffer/suffered from it, died from it it haven't contactd it."

When you can print money who do you have to pay it back to...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

As everyone is being effected in much the same way economically, could you explain how we're going to be worse off?

Everyone is printing money and borrowing more than can ever be repaid in our lifetime.

To answer OP. It's here to stay, once people and countries feel they have some handle on it life will move forward again. Nothing ever stays the same, fact of life.

Once people have overcome and managed the fear of the unknown, they they step forward again and live life within their parameters. It's how everyone lives their lives everyday anyway.

A vaccine won't stop people getting it, but reduces it's impact on the body when it's got.

Currently it's estimated over 60% of the population are asymtomatic with it. The remaining consists of those who suffer/suffered from it, died from it it haven't contactd it.

estimated by who? "

By them actually. The WHO.

Their estimate was higher, set at 80% earlier this year.

I just don't like to exaggerate and was stating a much more conservative figure.

www.the.who.int.

Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) Situation Report – 46

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

As everyone is being effected in much the same way economically, could you explain how we're going to be worse off?

Everyone is printing money and borrowing more than can ever be repaid in our lifetime.

To answer OP. It's here to stay, once people and countries feel they have some handle on it life will move forward again. Nothing ever stays the same, fact of life.

Once people have overcome and managed the fear of the unknown, they they step forward again and live life within their parameters. It's how everyone lives their lives everyday anyway.

A vaccine won't stop people getting it, but reduces it's impact on the body when it's got.

Currently it's estimated over 60% of the population are asymtomatic with it. The remaining consists of those who suffer/suffered from it, died from it it haven't contactd it.

When you can print money who do you have to pay it back to... "

The consequence to your economy is much the same either way. So my question still stands unanswered, if everyone is doing it , effected economically in the same way and its global, how are we going to be worse off? Compared to who else as everyone is in the same boat.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

We will certainly have other new infections in the future and this may be a much smaller 1. We may have learned from it but our approach to global heating has largely been to ignore it and carry on as before. We'll probably do much of the same, not wanting to invest and change much.

We will probably have a vaccine and it may become like the MMR and flu jabs, just a part of life. Those most affected will talk about it the most.

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By *uliaChrisCouple
over a year ago

westerham


"Putting on my overly positive hat...

1. A vaccine will prove effective at some point. Rapid testing at point of use will mitigate the vast majority of risk and allow things to open up again. The two combined will ratchet things back to normality.

2. After a year or two of anaemic jobs, business and continued travel restrictions, things will start to open up and the pent up demand for experiences and living will start the roaring 20s properly.

3. The (hopeful) success of the mRNA based vaccines will expedite development of new vaccines for a whole bunch of annoying diseases like norovirus, ending the scourge of common diseases that steal time from us all in the winter months.

4. Countries that don't suck will send people out to find naturally occuring viruses (such as the various coronaviruses currently only present in bats and pangolins which can bind to human lung tissue) and will pre-emptively develop and test vaccines for them.

5. Infection control in all counties will take a big, permanent leap forwards, reducing the risk to everyone from future diseases, as well as giving loads of benefits towards reducing the spread of the usual winter bugs.

"

Enough of your reasoned rationality and optimism

As a country, like almost all of the Western world, we were massively in debt (personal and mainly governmental) with an asset price bubble before Corona, and we will have the same situation after. We weren’t ever going to pay the previous debt, and we won’t pay the additional back either. So, er, in a nihilistic type way, we will be ok eventually.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not really comparable to ww2. 80 million died in ww2.

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By *unmatt888Man
over a year ago

Duns


"Do you think that one day in the future we'll be telling our great grandkids about the time of the great virus and how it killed so many (like stories of WW2), or that we'll all be getting our yearly Covid jabs as pensioners because it's a part of everyday life (like influenza)?

Personally, I'm holding out hope for a vaccine and for it too die off over a couple of years but the similarities with the flu can't be ignored so I'd have to reluctantly go with option two"

Probably a bit of both.

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By *armandwet50Couple
over a year ago

Far far away


"Do you think that one day in the future we'll be telling our great grandkids about the time of the great virus and how it killed so many (like stories of WW2), or that we'll all be getting our yearly Covid jabs as pensioners because it's a part of everyday life (like influenza)?

Personally, I'm holding out hope for a vaccine and for it too die off over a couple of years but the similarities with the flu can't be ignored so I'd have to reluctantly go with option two"

During WW2 approx 3% of the global population died, let's hope it doesn't kill 210,000,000 people

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside

Management of patients has increased since the outset and there is no reason to disbelieve this will not continue.

Hopefully, the increase in the little things, like basic hand hygiene and distancing will continue to play it's part.

I don't think there will be a magic silver bullet but the sum of lots of little interventions.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Not really comparable to ww2. 80 million died in ww2. "

Oh shit no, I didn't mean a comparison like that, I just meant a historical story kind of comparison. As in, an unbelievable story for the younger generation to hear about in a detached way

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By *yn drwgMan
over a year ago

Camarthen


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

Not as bad ??? Its already been more than bad...."

What we were told back in March/ April is that hospitals would be stretched to the limits and people dropping like flies, truth is hardly none of the nightingale hospitals were used and places like A+E had staff kicking they're heels with hardly any patients turning up at the beginning.

I agree this is new to everyone but so called experts blatantly went with guess work at Joe public's expense. There has been no plan with any of the government's and they still are clueless.

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By *armandwet50Couple
over a year ago

Far far away


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

Not as bad ??? Its already been more than bad....

What we were told back in March/ April is that hospitals would be stretched to the limits and people dropping like flies, truth is hardly none of the nightingale hospitals were used and places like A+E had staff kicking they're heels with hardly any patients turning up at the beginning.

I agree this is new to everyone but so called experts blatantly went with guess work at Joe public's expense. There has been no plan with any of the government's and they still are clueless. "

Nobody could offer anything better at the time.

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By *yn drwgMan
over a year ago

Camarthen


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

Not as bad ??? Its already been more than bad....

What we were told back in March/ April is that hospitals would be stretched to the limits and people dropping like flies, truth is hardly none of the nightingale hospitals were used and places like A+E had staff kicking they're heels with hardly any patients turning up at the beginning.

I agree this is new to everyone but so called experts blatantly went with guess work at Joe public's expense. There has been no plan with any of the government's and they still are clueless.

Nobody could offer anything better at the time."

Yes I agree with you but when you were addressing the nation every afternoon doesn't this show they were winging it! Lockdown hasn't actually worked as it's destroyed businesses and delayed the inevitable.

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By *llabouttheladyMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

For me this is a reset button

There has been so much shite going on in the world over the last few years and now the brakes are on.

The environment, pollution, Brexit, Syria, Iran, Isis, Afghan, Trump. All has disappeared out of the media and we’ve now got this sack of shit day in day out.

It’s SARS 2

The original SARS from a decade ago killed thousands, but those who survived it still have antibodies.

For me this one will be the same.

We’re heading for herd immunity at a pace that the NHS can cope with. Why do you think the kids have gone back to school? It’s because it was disappearing that fast they couldn’t challenge the vaccines they were testing.

Last week one of the boffins admitted that in March there were an estimated 100,000 people contracting Covid per day in the UK

Today Blo-jo says we’ve got a chance of things being ok for Christmas, act fearlessly, but it could be bumpy.

It’s like bbc weather when it’s a black cloud with a drop of rain and some sunshine.

They haven’t got a clue

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

As everyone is being effected in much the same way economically, could you explain how we're going to be worse off?

Everyone is printing money and borrowing more than can ever be repaid in our lifetime.

To answer OP. It's here to stay, once people and countries feel they have some handle on it life will move forward again. Nothing ever stays the same, fact of life.

Once people have overcome and managed the fear of the unknown, they they step forward again and live life within their parameters. It's how everyone lives their lives everyday anyway.

A vaccine won't stop people getting it, but reduces it's impact on the body when it's got.

Currently it's estimated over 60% of the population are asymtomatic with it. The remaining consists of those who suffer/suffered from it, died from it it haven't contactd it.

estimated by who?

By them actually. The WHO.

Their estimate was higher, set at 80% earlier this year.

I just don't like to exaggerate and was stating a much more conservative figure.

www.the.who.int.

Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) Situation Report – 46"

Neither are correct... it’s 60-80 of those infected not the population

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

Not as bad ??? Its already been more than bad....

What we were told back in March/ April is that hospitals would be stretched to the limits and people dropping like flies, truth is hardly none of the nightingale hospitals were used and places like A+E had staff kicking they're heels with hardly any patients turning up at the beginning.

I agree this is new to everyone but so called experts blatantly went with guess work at Joe public's expense. There has been no plan with any of the government's and they still are clueless. "

. You do remember cases doubling every 4 days... had hospitals been allowed to reach 50% capacity it would have only been another 12 days to hit 400% capacity and then what

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By *orthcoupleCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle

We have three simple options :

A) we open everything and get on like before covid, and if you choose to do things like facemasks or social distancing etc it is entirely your choice

B) we continue as we are now, with various lockdowns and restrictions etc

C) we do an entire national lockdown for 3 weeks where nobody is allowed to leave the house etc except emergency services etc., with a month or so prior to get provisions etc

We can't see any other options but are open to suggestions x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Lockdown works. No doubt.

But.

People mix outside of the country so it's pointless.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

Not as bad ??? Its already been more than bad....

What we were told back in March/ April is that hospitals would be stretched to the limits and people dropping like flies, truth is hardly none of the nightingale hospitals were used and places like A+E had staff kicking they're heels with hardly any patients turning up at the beginning.

I agree this is new to everyone but so called experts blatantly went with guess work at Joe public's expense. There has been no plan with any of the government's and they still are clueless.

. You do remember cases doubling every 4 days... had hospitals been allowed to reach 50% capacity it would have only been another 12 days to hit 400% capacity and then what "

.

You make it out like everybody was and is at risk and that's clearly and by all statical analysis bullshit which is why you can't make that curve just double double double, it's nonsense.

Cases will double early in any infection, they don't ALWAYS continue and never have ever in any epidemic ever in history.

Your extrapolating one bit of a curve and trying to predict a future which is utter nonsense, even that tit from Cambridge wasn't as stupid as that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We have three simple options :

A) we open everything and get on like before covid, and if you choose to do things like facemasks or social distancing etc it is entirely your choice

B) we continue as we are now, with various lockdowns and restrictions etc

C) we do an entire national lockdown for 3 weeks where nobody is allowed to leave the house etc except emergency services etc., with a month or so prior to get provisions etc

We can't see any other options but are open to suggestions x"

given the way people stock piled when supermarkets were not closing i think it would take more than a month to get supply chains ready for the bulk buying craziness people would release if we went for option 3

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can we PLEASE try to understand that lockdowns do not stop the virus. They do not actually solve anything, all they do is delay the inevitable.

So, you take option 3 & lock the entire country down for 3 weeks. Then what? We get brief dip then another 4 or 5 weeks of infections rising till we have to do it all again. IT DOESN'T WORK.

To put this as bluntly as I possibly can, there are not three choices, there are two.

a : Let the virus do what it will do. DO our best to cope while actually keeping the country running and trying to provide some kind of quality of life to our citizens.

b : Lock down completely for as long as it takes to reach absolutely zero cases, then at least another 6 weeks to allow for asymptomatic infections. Best guess would be 4 to 6 months. And even when that ended you'd need to completely close the UK border to all, including freight.

Now, given we import a hell of a lot of stuff that we simply can't make/grow here b is pretty much unworkable, even if we could somehow manage to afford the entire country sitting idle for another 6 months. AND the New Zealand experience shows just how easy it is for that to fail ANYTIME.

So.. there really isn't much of a choice, is there?

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

Not as bad ??? Its already been more than bad....

What we were told back in March/ April is that hospitals would be stretched to the limits and people dropping like flies, truth is hardly none of the nightingale hospitals were used and places like A+E had staff kicking they're heels with hardly any patients turning up at the beginning.

I agree this is new to everyone but so called experts blatantly went with guess work at Joe public's expense. There has been no plan with any of the government's and they still are clueless.

. You do remember cases doubling every 4 days... had hospitals been allowed to reach 50% capacity it would have only been another 12 days to hit 400% capacity and then what .

You make it out like everybody was and is at risk and that's clearly and by all statical analysis bullshit which is why you can't make that curve just double double double, it's nonsense.

Cases will double early in any infection, they don't ALWAYS continue and never have ever in any epidemic ever in history.

Your extrapolating one bit of a curve and trying to predict a future which is utter nonsense, even that tit from Cambridge wasn't as stupid as that."

Exactly. Sweden showed that the curve slows and reverses without a lockdown. It's what epidemics do and have always done.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can we PLEASE try to understand that lockdowns do not stop the virus. They do not actually solve anything, all they do is delay the inevitable.

So, you take option 3 & lock the entire country down for 3 weeks. Then what? We get brief dip then another 4 or 5 weeks of infections rising till we have to do it all again. IT DOESN'T WORK.

To put this as bluntly as I possibly can, there are not three choices, there are two.

a : Let the virus do what it will do. DO our best to cope while actually keeping the country running and trying to provide some kind of quality of life to our citizens.

b : Lock down completely for as long as it takes to reach absolutely zero cases, then at least another 6 weeks to allow for asymptomatic infections. Best guess would be 4 to 6 months. And even when that ended you'd need to completely close the UK border to all, including freight.

Now, given we import a hell of a lot of stuff that we simply can't make/grow here b is pretty much unworkable, even if we could somehow manage to afford the entire country sitting idle for another 6 months. AND the New Zealand experience shows just how easy it is for that to fail ANYTIME.

So.. there really isn't much of a choice, is there?

"

i disagree... while i am not suggesting another lockdown, perth in australia got their cases down (not zero) , they haven't entirely locked their borders but they do quarantine arrivals for 2 weeks (from other parts of australia too not just international, full strict quarantine in a hotel where your meals are delivered and you cannot leave your room), freight is allowed in and ither than that the whole area is pretty much living life as normal now with cases low

there is a middle ground and more than 2 options, despite people only wanting to argue black or white

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

Not as bad ??? Its already been more than bad....

What we were told back in March/ April is that hospitals would be stretched to the limits and people dropping like flies, truth is hardly none of the nightingale hospitals were used and places like A+E had staff kicking they're heels with hardly any patients turning up at the beginning.

I agree this is new to everyone but so called experts blatantly went with guess work at Joe public's expense. There has been no plan with any of the government's and they still are clueless.

. You do remember cases doubling every 4 days... had hospitals been allowed to reach 50% capacity it would have only been another 12 days to hit 400% capacity and then what .

You make it out like everybody was and is at risk and that's clearly and by all statical analysis bullshit which is why you can't make that curve just double double double, it's nonsense.

Cases will double early in any infection, they don't ALWAYS continue and never have ever in any epidemic ever in history.

Your extrapolating one bit of a curve and trying to predict a future which is utter nonsense, even that tit from Cambridge wasn't as stupid as that."

I agree that over time the curve would have flattened but it wasn’t going to flatten in just 14 days. The evidence was and remains clear that only a small fraction of the susceptible population had been infected by the point of lockdown.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think I will be telling any child about corona.

If I return to work. Then I might be in a clinic giving talks on well being and anxiety.

Remind me of last flu pandemic did the government do this. No. So why now?

A certain Dr. Reiner Fuellmich Crimes Against Humanity. He told me today that he and other lawyers are taking the government to court. I wait for this day OP

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By *orrow my wifeCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

Not as bad ??? Its already been more than bad....

How so, this year so far there have been more than 100 million births and more than 40 million deaths of which 1 million may be connected to covid.

But wouldn't you be better saying what else they died from?

I would suggest the majority died because they were old or frail ... plus ça change."

That's a really twisted way of looking at things

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By *orrow my wifeCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

Not as bad ??? Its already been more than bad....

What we were told back in March/ April is that hospitals would be stretched to the limits and people dropping like flies, truth is hardly none of the nightingale hospitals were used and places like A+E had staff kicking they're heels with hardly any patients turning up at the beginning.

I agree this is new to everyone but so called experts blatantly went with guess work at Joe public's expense. There has been no plan with any of the government's and they still are clueless.

. You do remember cases doubling every 4 days... had hospitals been allowed to reach 50% capacity it would have only been another 12 days to hit 400% capacity and then what .

You make it out like everybody was and is at risk and that's clearly and by all statical analysis bullshit which is why you can't make that curve just double double double, it's nonsense.

Cases will double early in any infection, they don't ALWAYS continue and never have ever in any epidemic ever in history.

Your extrapolating one bit of a curve and trying to predict a future which is utter nonsense, even that tit from Cambridge wasn't as stupid as that.

Exactly. Sweden showed that the curve slows and reverses without a lockdown. It's what epidemics do and have always done."

They certainly have not .... in fact the opposite??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

have you seen that video of that covid marshall stopping a son supporting his mother at his dads funeral.

to me, that is a step too far.

if that had been me told to get away from my mother all hell would of broke loose.

disgusting

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

Not as bad ??? Its already been more than bad....

What we were told back in March/ April is that hospitals would be stretched to the limits and people dropping like flies, truth is hardly none of the nightingale hospitals were used and places like A+E had staff kicking they're heels with hardly any patients turning up at the beginning.

I agree this is new to everyone but so called experts blatantly went with guess work at Joe public's expense. There has been no plan with any of the government's and they still are clueless.

. You do remember cases doubling every 4 days... had hospitals been allowed to reach 50% capacity it would have only been another 12 days to hit 400% capacity and then what .

You make it out like everybody was and is at risk and that's clearly and by all statical analysis bullshit which is why you can't make that curve just double double double, it's nonsense.

Cases will double early in any infection, they don't ALWAYS continue and never have ever in any epidemic ever in history.

Your extrapolating one bit of a curve and trying to predict a future which is utter nonsense, even that tit from Cambridge wasn't as stupid as that.

Exactly. Sweden showed that the curve slows and reverses without a lockdown. It's what epidemics do and have always done.

They certainly have not .... in fact the opposite??"

Dont be coming on here spouting actual facts.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"have you seen that video of that covid marshall stopping a son supporting his mother at his dads funeral.

to me, that is a step too far.

if that had been me told to get away from my mother all hell would of broke loose.

disgusting"

Why was a Marshall at a funeral?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know 3 people who have taken their own lives in my area (Bridgend) kind of well known for suicides a few years back but these three suicides in the last 2 months were people in their 40’s and 50’s. The latest man who took his life was a professional photographer who primarily did weddings. I don’t know for certain if income was the cause but I feel like the affect in people’s lives, mental health and businesses is worse than the actual virus.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"I know 3 people who have taken their own lives in my area (Bridgend) kind of well known for suicides a few years back but these three suicides in the last 2 months were people in their 40’s and 50’s. The latest man who took his life was a professional photographer who primarily did weddings. I don’t know for certain if income was the cause but I feel like the affect in people’s lives, mental health and businesses is worse than the actual virus. "

I'll repeat this.

Its estimated thousands of peoples lost their lives due to the effects of austerity

Why were people not up in arms during that period?

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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

The virus and its after effects will be with us for generations to come.

Health across the board has suffered and many people will die of cancers and other diseases that were ignored whilst everybody became fixated on Covid-19.

The economic impact to individuals and the country will take 20 or 30 years to recover from.

All in all it will be difficult times for many in the future.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know 3 people who have taken their own lives in my area (Bridgend) kind of well known for suicides a few years back but these three suicides in the last 2 months were people in their 40’s and 50’s. The latest man who took his life was a professional photographer who primarily did weddings. I don’t know for certain if income was the cause but I feel like the affect in people’s lives, mental health and businesses is worse than the actual virus. "

Sad news and I agree, the knock on affect will be felt for a long time unfortunately. Without going into much detail I can say I’ve not been myself at all for the last few months. My enthusiasm for anything is difficult to get going.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"The virus and its after effects will be with us for generations to come.

Health across the board has suffered and many people will die of cancers and other diseases that were ignored whilst everybody became fixated on Covid-19.

The economic impact to individuals and the country will take 20 or 30 years to recover from.

All in all it will be difficult times for many in the future. "

I don't think other illnesses were ignored.

They had to prioritise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"have you seen that video of that covid marshall stopping a son supporting his mother at his dads funeral.

to me, that is a step too far.

if that had been me told to get away from my mother all hell would of broke loose.

disgusting

Why was a Marshall at a funeral?"

youd have to ask milton keynes council.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"have you seen that video of that covid marshall stopping a son supporting his mother at his dads funeral.

to me, that is a step too far.

if that had been me told to get away from my mother all hell would of broke loose.

disgusting

Why was a Marshall at a funeral?

youd have to ask milton keynes council."

Seen that footage feel for the lad trying to comfort his mother.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

Not as bad ??? Its already been more than bad....

What we were told back in March/ April is that hospitals would be stretched to the limits and people dropping like flies, truth is hardly none of the nightingale hospitals were used and places like A+E had staff kicking they're heels with hardly any patients turning up at the beginning.

I agree this is new to everyone but so called experts blatantly went with guess work at Joe public's expense. There has been no plan with any of the government's and they still are clueless.

. You do remember cases doubling every 4 days... had hospitals been allowed to reach 50% capacity it would have only been another 12 days to hit 400% capacity and then what "

Some people don't seem to be able to comprehend beyond the next 10 minutes of their lives or visualise anything other than a pint of beer but they are capable of repeating garbage they read on Facebook so don't realise what *might* have been if every country in the world hadn't ninvoked restrictions.

Maybe they live in TRUMPton

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

Not as bad ??? Its already been more than bad....

What we were told back in March/ April is that hospitals would be stretched to the limits and people dropping like flies, truth is hardly none of the nightingale hospitals were used and places like A+E had staff kicking they're heels with hardly any patients turning up at the beginning.

I agree this is new to everyone but so called experts blatantly went with guess work at Joe public's expense. There has been no plan with any of the government's and they still are clueless.

. You do remember cases doubling every 4 days... had hospitals been allowed to reach 50% capacity it would have only been another 12 days to hit 400% capacity and then what

Some people don't seem to be able to comprehend beyond the next 10 minutes of their lives or visualise anything other than a pint of beer but they are capable of repeating garbage they read on Facebook so don't realise what *might* have been if every country in the world hadn't ninvoked restrictions.

Maybe they live in TRUMPton"

Yes, it could have gone as badly as it did for Sweden.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

Not as bad ??? Its already been more than bad....

What we were told back in March/ April is that hospitals would be stretched to the limits and people dropping like flies, truth is hardly none of the nightingale hospitals were used and places like A+E had staff kicking they're heels with hardly any patients turning up at the beginning.

I agree this is new to everyone but so called experts blatantly went with guess work at Joe public's expense. There has been no plan with any of the government's and they still are clueless.

. You do remember cases doubling every 4 days... had hospitals been allowed to reach 50% capacity it would have only been another 12 days to hit 400% capacity and then what

Some people don't seem to be able to comprehend beyond the next 10 minutes of their lives or visualise anything other than a pint of beer but they are capable of repeating garbage they read on Facebook so don't realise what *might* have been if every country in the world hadn't ninvoked restrictions.

Maybe they live in TRUMPton

Yes, it could have gone as badly as it did for Sweden."

I'm thinking we are lucky is we didn't do as well as Brazil.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

Not as bad ??? Its already been more than bad....

What we were told back in March/ April is that hospitals would be stretched to the limits and people dropping like flies, truth is hardly none of the nightingale hospitals were used and places like A+E had staff kicking they're heels with hardly any patients turning up at the beginning.

I agree this is new to everyone but so called experts blatantly went with guess work at Joe public's expense. There has been no plan with any of the government's and they still are clueless.

. You do remember cases doubling every 4 days... had hospitals been allowed to reach 50% capacity it would have only been another 12 days to hit 400% capacity and then what

Some people don't seem to be able to comprehend beyond the next 10 minutes of their lives or visualise anything other than a pint of beer but they are capable of repeating garbage they read on Facebook so don't realise what *might* have been if every country in the world hadn't ninvoked restrictions.

Maybe they live in TRUMPton

Yes, it could have gone as badly as it did for Sweden."

You seem to be confusing a country where people have total resoect for each other and enough common sense to live by restrictions which don't need to be legally enforced with one where a large proportion of it's population don't give a fuck for anyone except themselves

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire.

Not as bad ??? Its already been more than bad....

What we were told back in March/ April is that hospitals would be stretched to the limits and people dropping like flies, truth is hardly none of the nightingale hospitals were used and places like A+E had staff kicking they're heels with hardly any patients turning up at the beginning.

I agree this is new to everyone but so called experts blatantly went with guess work at Joe public's expense. There has been no plan with any of the government's and they still are clueless.

. You do remember cases doubling every 4 days... had hospitals been allowed to reach 50% capacity it would have only been another 12 days to hit 400% capacity and then what

Some people don't seem to be able to comprehend beyond the next 10 minutes of their lives or visualise anything other than a pint of beer but they are capable of repeating garbage they read on Facebook so don't realise what *might* have been if every country in the world hadn't ninvoked restrictions.

Maybe they live in TRUMPton

Yes, it could have gone as badly as it did for Sweden.

You seem to be confusing a country where people have total resoect for each other and enough common sense to live by restrictions which don't need to be legally enforced with one where a large proportion of it's population don't give a fuck for anyone except themselves

"

So you agree that if everybody had carried on as normal but washed their hands and stayed arms length apart, we could have avoided lock down and mask wearing and bankrupting businesses up and down the country?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think this will be around for years.what most dont seem to grasp is thre is more than one strain of covid.the guy in hongcong who got it then got shut then went on hols came home and had it again had got a slightly difrent strain from hols in france.at present labs day theire are seven strains of covid round the world and this will increas with time .so a cure wont hapen its hear to stay like the comon cold

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By *ovelybumCouple
over a year ago

Tunbridge Wells

That's where it's going:

"My brothers wife went to hug my 7 year old nephew last week and he backed off and said "no mummy i don't want to kill you" she asked why on earth he thought that, he said the teacher at school told him he doesnt do as hes told or if he hugs is friends that he could go home and end up killing your parents."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-54431900

Sad, sad, sad....

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By *ovelybumCouple
over a year ago

Tunbridge Wells

That's where it's going:

"My brothers wife went to hug my 7 year old nephew last week and he backed off and said "no mummy i don't want to kill you" she asked why on earth he thought that, he said the teacher at school told him he doesnt do as hes told or if he hugs is friends that he could go home and end up killing your parents."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-54431900

Sad, sad, sad....

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By *iker boy 69Man
over a year ago

midlands

I honestly wish i was in my 80s, and on my last legs, because theres going to be a shit future for anyone under 40 from now on, when theyve got to deal with the repurcussions of this for over half their lives, all down to media bollox I.M.O.. im so glad i drcided against having kids

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By *orrow my wifeCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"I honestly wish i was in my 80s, and on my last legs, because theres going to be a shit future for anyone under 40 from now on, when theyve got to deal with the repurcussions of this for over half their lives, all down to media bollox I.M.O.. im so glad i drcided against having kids"

Dont be daft and so pessimistic....

It's a challenge but everything will bounce back

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By *avid ElliottCouple
over a year ago

West Worthing


"I honestly wish i was in my 80s, and on my last legs, because theres going to be a shit future for anyone under 40 from now on, when theyve got to deal with the repurcussions of this for over half their lives, all down to media bollox I.M.O.. im so glad i drcided against having kids"

The future has Nothing to do with media ?? Its the virus and the chinese bat eating ways

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By *iker boy 69Man
over a year ago

midlands


"I honestly wish i was in my 80s, and on my last legs, because theres going to be a shit future for anyone under 40 from now on, when theyve got to deal with the repurcussions of this for over half their lives, all down to media bollox I.M.O.. im so glad i drcided against having kids

Dont be daft and so pessimistic....

It's a challenge but everything will bounce back "

It wont while all the folk are buying the bullshit theyre being fed... ok, theres an illness about. Theres lots af illnesses that kill. We deal with them, but being forced to act this way and that way is bollox, but due to those scared of their own shadow, itll be like this for ever

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By *avid ElliottCouple
over a year ago

West Worthing


"I honestly wish i was in my 80s, and on my last legs, because theres going to be a shit future for anyone under 40 from now on, when theyve got to deal with the repurcussions of this for over half their lives, all down to media bollox I.M.O.. im so glad i drcided against having kids

Dont be daft and so pessimistic....

It's a challenge but everything will bounce back

It wont while all the folk are buying the bullshit theyre being fed... ok, theres an illness about. Theres lots af illnesses that kill. We deal with them, but being forced to act this way and that way is bollox, but due to those scared of their own shadow, itll be like this for ever"

Harley for ever hin..... it's an illness that we will overcome . I really cannot see how you being fed with "bullshit" fits into things ??

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

Infections UP

hospitalisations UP

deaths UP

WISE UP

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By *orrow my wifeCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"I honestly wish i was in my 80s, and on my last legs, because theres going to be a shit future for anyone under 40 from now on, when theyve got to deal with the repurcussions of this for over half their lives, all down to media bollox I.M.O.. im so glad i drcided against having kids

Dont be daft and so pessimistic....

It's a challenge but everything will bounce back

It wont while all the folk are buying the bullshit theyre being fed... ok, theres an illness about. Theres lots af illnesses that kill. We deal with them, but being forced to act this way and that way is bollox, but due to those scared of their own shadow, itll be like this for ever"

Its certainly not bullshit! I have been a nurse for over 30 years and with my own eyes I have never seen anything as nasty and contagious as this

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By *orrow my wifeCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"Infections UP

hospitalisations UP

deaths UP

WISE UP"

Deluded and silly people UP

However it's a really nasty illness we need to fight this and not give up thinking there is no future as thats imply ridiculous.

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By *iker boy 69Man
over a year ago

midlands


"I honestly wish i was in my 80s, and on my last legs, because theres going to be a shit future for anyone under 40 from now on, when theyve got to deal with the repurcussions of this for over half their lives, all down to media bollox I.M.O.. im so glad i drcided against having kids

Dont be daft and so pessimistic....

It's a challenge but everything will bounce back

It wont while all the folk are buying the bullshit theyre being fed... ok, theres an illness about. Theres lots af illnesses that kill. We deal with them, but being forced to act this way and that way is bollox, but due to those scared of their own shadow, itll be like this for ever

Its certainly not bullshit! I have been a nurse for over 30 years and with my own eyes I have never seen anything as nasty and contagious as this "

Im not saying its not out tgere, but the fear being put into folk is out of order, when so many dont know they have it. Ok, its bad in certsin people. But so are other things.

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By *orrow my wifeCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"I honestly wish i was in my 80s, and on my last legs, because theres going to be a shit future for anyone under 40 from now on, when theyve got to deal with the repurcussions of this for over half their lives, all down to media bollox I.M.O.. im so glad i drcided against having kids

Dont be daft and so pessimistic....

It's a challenge but everything will bounce back

It wont while all the folk are buying the bullshit theyre being fed... ok, theres an illness about. Theres lots af illnesses that kill. We deal with them, but being forced to act this way and that way is bollox, but due to those scared of their own shadow, itll be like this for ever

Its certainly not bullshit! I have been a nurse for over 30 years and with my own eyes I have never seen anything as nasty and contagious as this

Im not saying its not out tgere, but the fear being put into folk is out of order, when so many dont know they have it. Ok, its bad in certsin people. But so are other things. "

I really cannot understand who is putting fear into you other than the virus ?

Yes I have had many first hand experiences and it's the virus that we are fearing . Nothing to do with bullshit ?

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By *alifaxsuetvcdTV/TS
over a year ago

halifax

It is media bullshit crap reporting. If you look at the registered deaths for week 39, 9,634 people died, of which 2.2%(215) are recorded as covid 19 related. They don't put it into any form of context.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is media bullshit crap reporting. If you look at the registered deaths for week 39, 9,634 people died, of which 2.2%(215) are recorded as covid 19 related. They don't put it into any form of context."

When was week 39?

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By *heCrowAndButterflyCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

The media do hold a lot of responsibility for causing hysteria throughout this, take the recent miss reported number, sites that track this line worldometer apportioned the missed cases to the day they occurred, our media reported the mass hike in number on one day. Interestingly where this is going? First exposure to disease and virus is in most cases the worst, World history shows this, take the residents of Easter Island as an example, living in isolation having never met others first exposure to disease and virus pretty much wiped them out, tribes in africa and amazon the same occurred, no one can know for sure as its been around so long, the common cold (also a coronavirus) was probably equally as devastating when it first surfaced

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By *orrow my wifeCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"The media do hold a lot of responsibility for causing hysteria throughout this, take the recent miss reported number, sites that track this line worldometer apportioned the missed cases to the day they occurred, our media reported the mass hike in number on one day. Interestingly where this is going? First exposure to disease and virus is in most cases the worst, World history shows this, take the residents of Easter Island as an example, living in isolation having never met others first exposure to disease and virus pretty much wiped them out, tribes in africa and amazon the same occurred, no one can know for sure as its been around so long, the common cold (also a coronavirus) was probably equally as devastating when it first surfaced"

It's real life ..... no conspiracy theory in my hospital!

However total ignorance on here

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By *heCrowAndButterflyCouple
over a year ago

Rushden


"The media do hold a lot of responsibility for causing hysteria throughout this, take the recent miss reported number, sites that track this line worldometer apportioned the missed cases to the day they occurred, our media reported the mass hike in number on one day. Interestingly where this is going? First exposure to disease and virus is in most cases the worst, World history shows this, take the residents of Easter Island as an example, living in isolation having never met others first exposure to disease and virus pretty much wiped them out, tribes in africa and amazon the same occurred, no one can know for sure as its been around so long, the common cold (also a coronavirus) was probably equally as devastating when it first surfaced

It's real life ..... no conspiracy theory in my hospital!

However total ignorance on here "

Please do explain to me where in my post I made any comment about a conspiracy theory? I didn't thank you!

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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago

harrow


"The media do hold a lot of responsibility for causing hysteria throughout this, take the recent miss reported number, sites that track this line worldometer apportioned the missed cases to the day they occurred, our media reported the mass hike in number on one day. Interestingly where this is going? First exposure to disease and virus is in most cases the worst, World history shows this, take the residents of Easter Island as an example, living in isolation having never met others first exposure to disease and virus pretty much wiped them out, tribes in africa and amazon the same occurred, no one can know for sure as its been around so long, the common cold (also a coronavirus) was probably equally as devastating when it first surfaced"

Not true at all. The 2nd wave of the Spanish flu killed 15 times more than the 1st wave

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"I honestly wish i was in my 80s, and on my last legs, because theres going to be a shit future for anyone under 40 from now on, when theyve got to deal with the repurcussions of this for over half their lives, all down to media bollox I.M.O.. im so glad i drcided against having kids

Dont be daft and so pessimistic....

It's a challenge but everything will bounce back

It wont while all the folk are buying the bullshit theyre being fed... ok, theres an illness about. Theres lots af illnesses that kill. We deal with them, but being forced to act this way and that way is bollox, but due to those scared of their own shadow, itll be like this for ever

Its certainly not bullshit! I have been a nurse for over 30 years and with my own eyes I have never seen anything as nasty and contagious as this "

It's a tough one to know who to believe.

A nurse with 30 years of experience..or.

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By *iker boy 69Man
over a year ago

midlands


"I honestly wish i was in my 80s, and on my last legs, because theres going to be a shit future for anyone under 40 from now on, when theyve got to deal with the repurcussions of this for over half their lives, all down to media bollox I.M.O.. im so glad i drcided against having kids

Dont be daft and so pessimistic....

It's a challenge but everything will bounce back

It wont while all the folk are buying the bullshit theyre being fed... ok, theres an illness about. Theres lots af illnesses that kill. We deal with them, but being forced to act this way and that way is bollox, but due to those scared of their own shadow, itll be like this for ever

Its certainly not bullshit! I have been a nurse for over 30 years and with my own eyes I have never seen anything as nasty and contagious as this

Im not saying its not out tgere, but the fear being put into folk is out of order, when so many dont know they have it. Ok, its bad in certsin people. But so are other things.

I really cannot understand who is putting fear into you other than the virus ?

Yes I have had many first hand experiences and it's the virus that we are fearing . Nothing to do with bullshit ? "

No ones putting fear into me, and i dont fear this virus. Fear mongering has been put into god knows how many folk tho. Im of the thoughts if i get it i get it, just like if i get knocked off my bike when im out and about. The risk is minimal, but out there. But the way some people are scared that its an automatic death sentence if they bump into some one is beyond belief

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"It is media bullshit crap reporting. If you look at the registered deaths for week 39, 9,634 people died, of which 2.2%(215) are recorded as covid 19 related. They don't put it into any form of context."
Death is not the big worry it is the after effects

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By *ewnameCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

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By *inkypalandherMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

Final stage (phase LLL) Covid vaccine trials have been running UK, S.Africa & Brazil. It is expected first large scale vaccination will begin with priority groups, (NHS workers, 60+, BAME) in Birmingham as early as November. Will require X2 jabs 28 days apart. This is the Oxford University/ AstraZenica vaccine

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By *ewnameCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

lol the whole world did not make it up, but the 1% used it to their advantage.

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By *orrow my wifeCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"I honestly wish i was in my 80s, and on my last legs, because theres going to be a shit future for anyone under 40 from now on, when theyve got to deal with the repurcussions of this for over half their lives, all down to media bollox I.M.O.. im so glad i drcided against having kids

Dont be daft and so pessimistic....

It's a challenge but everything will bounce back

It wont while all the folk are buying the bullshit theyre being fed... ok, theres an illness about. Theres lots af illnesses that kill. We deal with them, but being forced to act this way and that way is bollox, but due to those scared of their own shadow, itll be like this for ever

Its certainly not bullshit! I have been a nurse for over 30 years and with my own eyes I have never seen anything as nasty and contagious as this

Im not saying its not out tgere, but the fear being put into folk is out of order, when so many dont know they have it. Ok, its bad in certsin people. But so are other things.

I really cannot understand who is putting fear into you other than the virus ?

Yes I have had many first hand experiences and it's the virus that we are fearing . Nothing to do with bullshit ?

No ones putting fear into me, and i dont fear this virus. Fear mongering has been put into god knows how many folk tho. Im of the thoughts if i get it i get it, just like if i get knocked off my bike when im out and about. The risk is minimal, but out there. But the way some people are scared that its an automatic death sentence if they bump into some one is beyond belief"

You do seem to be fearful as you are the one banging on about it !

It's best to be extremely cautious and follow the rules but not afraid hun

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By *om girlCouple (FF)
over a year ago

South Yorkshire

Virus come and goes always have alway will and virus mutate and become stronger

People need understand the flu virus kills thousands every year

And if the media and government put its scare tac tics to work people would believe everything they being told.you cant cure virus they weaken over time

But its your health and low immune system then kills you if you catch an infection thats why young people and kids death rate low with carona

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"We will eventually live with it, just like we do with flu jabs. Those at higher risk will be more likely to get vaccinated. Maybe like in Asia we will become more sensitive to the fact that we all share the same living space and wear masks when we are ill, even with colds.

Public Health responses will be more finely tuned.

Our own knowledge will have increased beyond anything we had before.

Of course there will be those that - like now - that just hold on to the idea that the whole world made it up - but they never say why the whole world made it up.

"

Most of the Asian countries that wear masks were not for viruses but pollution

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By *iker boy 69Man
over a year ago

midlands


"I honestly wish i was in my 80s, and on my last legs, because theres going to be a shit future for anyone under 40 from now on, when theyve got to deal with the repurcussions of this for over half their lives, all down to media bollox I.M.O.. im so glad i drcided against having kids

Dont be daft and so pessimistic....

It's a challenge but everything will bounce back

It wont while all the folk are buying the bullshit theyre being fed... ok, theres an illness about. Theres lots af illnesses that kill. We deal with them, but being forced to act this way and that way is bollox, but due to those scared of their own shadow, itll be like this for ever

Its certainly not bullshit! I have been a nurse for over 30 years and with my own eyes I have never seen anything as nasty and contagious as this

Im not saying its not out tgere, but the fear being put into folk is out of order, when so many dont know they have it. Ok, its bad in certsin people. But so are other things.

I really cannot understand who is putting fear into you other than the virus ?

Yes I have had many first hand experiences and it's the virus that we are fearing . Nothing to do with bullshit ?

No ones putting fear into me, and i dont fear this virus. Fear mongering has been put into god knows how many folk tho. Im of the thoughts if i get it i get it, just like if i get knocked off my bike when im out and about. The risk is minimal, but out there. But the way some people are scared that its an automatic death sentence if they bump into some one is beyond belief

You do seem to be fearful as you are the one banging on about it !

It's best to be extremely cautious and follow the rules but not afraid hun "

Im not fearful of the virus at all. Im fearful of how the country or even world are going to end up because of the way people have responded to it. I fear for children of today having no tomorrow. As for me, id just carry on as per if it was allowed. If i get it i get it, if i dont, i dont. I smoke, and im a wekder so hey ho, im gona have breathing problems somewhere down the line anyway

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By *DGF20Man
over a year ago

Dublin

Questions is does anyone still believe in story about China how the virus started there, how they beat the virus...?

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By *avid ElliottCouple
over a year ago

West Worthing


"I honestly wish i was in my 80s, and on my last legs, because theres going to be a shit future for anyone under 40 from now on, when theyve got to deal with the repurcussions of this for over half their lives, all down to media bollox I.M.O.. im so glad i drcided against having kids

Dont be daft and so pessimistic....

It's a challenge but everything will bounce back

It wont while all the folk are buying the bullshit theyre being fed... ok, theres an illness about. Theres lots af illnesses that kill. We deal with them, but being forced to act this way and that way is bollox, but due to those scared of their own shadow, itll be like this for ever

Its certainly not bullshit! I have been a nurse for over 30 years and with my own eyes I have never seen anything as nasty and contagious as this

Im not saying its not out tgere, but the fear being put into folk is out of order, when so many dont know they have it. Ok, its bad in certsin people. But so are other things.

I really cannot understand who is putting fear into you other than the virus ?

Yes I have had many first hand experiences and it's the virus that we are fearing . Nothing to do with bullshit ?

No ones putting fear into me, and i dont fear this virus. Fear mongering has been put into god knows how many folk tho. Im of the thoughts if i get it i get it, just like if i get knocked off my bike when im out and about. The risk is minimal, but out there. But the way some people are scared that its an automatic death sentence if they bump into some one is beyond belief

You do seem to be fearful as you are the one banging on about it !

It's best to be extremely cautious and follow the rules but not afraid hun

Im not fearful of the virus at all. Im fearful of how the country or even world are going to end up because of the way people have responded to it. I fear for children of today having no tomorrow. As for me, id just carry on as per if it was allowed. If i get it i get it, if i dont, i dont. I smoke, and im a wekder so hey ho, im gona have breathing problems somewhere down the line anyway"

I must say you seem to be the one in fear ?

Try not to be do fearful .....

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By *avid ElliottCouple
over a year ago

West Worthing


"I honestly wish i was in my 80s, and on my last legs, because theres going to be a shit future for anyone under 40 from now on, when theyve got to deal with the repurcussions of this for over half their lives, all down to media bollox I.M.O.. im so glad i drcided against having kids

Dont be daft and so pessimistic....

It's a challenge but everything will bounce back

It wont while all the folk are buying the bullshit theyre being fed... ok, theres an illness about. Theres lots af illnesses that kill. We deal with them, but being forced to act this way and that way is bollox, but due to those scared of their own shadow, itll be like this for ever

Its certainly not bullshit! I have been a nurse for over 30 years and with my own eyes I have never seen anything as nasty and contagious as this

Im not saying its not out tgere, but the fear being put into folk is out of order, when so many dont know they have it. Ok, its bad in certsin people. But so are other things.

I really cannot understand who is putting fear into you other than the virus ?

Yes I have had many first hand experiences and it's the virus that we are fearing . Nothing to do with bullshit ?

No ones putting fear into me, and i dont fear this virus. Fear mongering has been put into god knows how many folk tho. Im of the thoughts if i get it i get it, just like if i get knocked off my bike when im out and about. The risk is minimal, but out there. But the way some people are scared that its an automatic death sentence if they bump into some one is beyond belief

You do seem to be fearful as you are the one banging on about it !

It's best to be extremely cautious and follow the rules but not afraid hun

Im not fearful of the virus at all. Im fearful of how the country or even world are going to end up because of the way people have responded to it. I fear for children of today having no tomorrow. As for me, id just carry on as per if it was allowed. If i get it i get it, if i dont, i dont. I smoke, and im a wekder so hey ho, im gona have breathing problems somewhere down the line anyway

I must say you seem to be the one in fear ?

Try not to be do fearful .....

"

Maybe think differently it may help your fears?

Think if you got it and would not want to pass it onto your nearest and dearest . Think of others , stay safe and dont be afraid

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Questions is does anyone still believe in story about China how the virus started there, how they beat the virus...? "

You cannot question that even if we still actually don't have any real answer as to how it did come about.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Questions is does anyone still believe in story about China how the virus started there, how they beat the virus...? "

No it's totally irrelevant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I told you not to ask the at question and now look

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By *ribsaMan
over a year ago

A box at end of your bed

In my opinion it feels like some mass world government scheme to bring down the mega rich and control the masses.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"In my opinion it feels like some mass world government scheme to bring down the mega rich and control the masses. "

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"In my opinion it feels like some mass world government scheme to bring down the mega rich and control the masses. "

Wrong, wrong again and not really working..

Back to the internet and whatever your source is..

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon


"In my opinion it feels like some mass world government scheme to bring down the mega rich and control the masses. "

Bit the ‘mega rich’ are immune!

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By *DGF20Man
over a year ago

Dublin

Hehehe totally irrelevant while all world fighting with virus they have 12 cases daily! Biggest population in the world, 1/7 world population btw who is selling all masks we are forced to wear? So now tell me who believe in this??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hehehe totally irrelevant while all world fighting with virus they have 12 cases daily! Biggest population in the world, 1/7 world population btw who is selling all masks we are forced to wear? So now tell me who believe in this?? "

well i bought my mask from a local seller who was using profit to buy material and make scrubs for the nhs at peak lockdown ... not sure how that helped china’s economy if thats your suggestion

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Hehehe totally irrelevant while all world fighting with virus they have 12 cases daily! Biggest population in the world, 1/7 world population btw who is selling all masks we are forced to wear? So now tell me who believe in this?? "

So let's get this straight.. they deliberately released a virus that could potentially kill of millions of people so they could sell us masks,?

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By *DGF20Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"Hehehe totally irrelevant while all world fighting with virus they have 12 cases daily! Biggest population in the world, 1/7 world population btw who is selling all masks we are forced to wear? So now tell me who believe in this??

So let's get this straight.. they deliberately released a virus that could potentially kill of millions of people so they could sell us masks,?"

I didn't said that! I just said what it is

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Hehehe totally irrelevant while all world fighting with virus they have 12 cases daily! Biggest population in the world, 1/7 world population btw who is selling all masks we are forced to wear? So now tell me who believe in this??

So let's get this straight.. they deliberately released a virus that could potentially kill of millions of people so they could sell us masks,?

I didn't said that! I just said what it is"

So..what are you saying then?

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By *DGF20Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"Hehehe totally irrelevant while all world fighting with virus they have 12 cases daily! Biggest population in the world, 1/7 world population btw who is selling all masks we are forced to wear? So now tell me who believe in this??

So let's get this straight.. they deliberately released a virus that could potentially kill of millions of people so they could sell us masks,?

I didn't said that! I just said what it is

So..what are you saying then?"

Scroll up and see what i am saying...looks like you are pretty naive person is it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Questions is does anyone still believe in story about China how the virus started there, how they beat the virus...? "

So you don't believe the virus originated in China then?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Hehehe totally irrelevant while all world fighting with virus they have 12 cases daily! Biggest population in the world, 1/7 world population btw who is selling all masks we are forced to wear? So now tell me who believe in this??

So let's get this straight.. they deliberately released a virus that could potentially kill of millions of people so they could sell us masks,?

I didn't said that! I just said what it is

So..what are you saying then?

Scroll up and see what i am saying...looks like you are pretty naive person is it? "

You said they are making the masks we are all wearing.

As the poster above said this is patently untrue

And if we are unable to make our own masks..whose fault is that?

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By *DGF20Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"Questions is does anyone still believe in story about China how the virus started there, how they beat the virus...?

So you don't believe the virus originated in China then? "

I didn't said that and i don't think anybody knows from us here where it comes from and how... Btw 7 new cases today in country with 1.4 billion people

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Questions is does anyone still believe in story about China how the virus started there, how they beat the virus...?

So you don't believe the virus originated in China then?

I didn't said that and i don't think anybody knows from us here where it comes from and how... Btw 7 new cases today in country with 1.4 billion people "

I'm completely at a loss at what point it is you are trying to nake

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By *eter pepper 77Man
over a year ago

kelsall

Time to move on now , enough is enough

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Hehehe totally irrelevant while all world fighting with virus they have 12 cases daily! Biggest population in the world, 1/7 world population btw who is selling all masks we are forced to wear? So now tell me who believe in this?? "

Many make their own..

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By *iker boy 69Man
over a year ago

midlands


"I honestly wish i was in my 80s, and on my last legs, because theres going to be a shit future for anyone under 40 from now on, when theyve got to deal with the repurcussions of this for over half their lives, all down to media bollox I.M.O.. im so glad i drcided against having kids

Dont be daft and so pessimistic....

It's a challenge but everything will bounce back

It wont while all the folk are buying the bullshit theyre being fed... ok, theres an illness about. Theres lots af illnesses that kill. We deal with them, but being forced to act this way and that way is bollox, but due to those scared of their own shadow, itll be like this for ever

Its certainly not bullshit! I have been a nurse for over 30 years and with my own eyes I have never seen anything as nasty and contagious as this

Im not saying its not out tgere, but the fear being put into folk is out of order, when so many dont know they have it. Ok, its bad in certsin people. But so are other things.

I really cannot understand who is putting fear into you other than the virus ?

Yes I have had many first hand experiences and it's the virus that we are fearing . Nothing to do with bullshit ?

No ones putting fear into me, and i dont fear this virus. Fear mongering has been put into god knows how many folk tho. Im of the thoughts if i get it i get it, just like if i get knocked off my bike when im out and about. The risk is minimal, but out there. But the way some people are scared that its an automatic death sentence if they bump into some one is beyond belief

You do seem to be fearful as you are the one banging on about it !

It's best to be extremely cautious and follow the rules but not afraid hun

Im not fearful of the virus at all. Im fearful of how the country or even world are going to end up because of the way people have responded to it. I fear for children of today having no tomorrow. As for me, id just carry on as per if it was allowed. If i get it i get it, if i dont, i dont. I smoke, and im a wekder so hey ho, im gona have breathing problems somewhere down the line anyway

I must say you seem to be the one in fear ?

Try not to be do fearful .....

"

As ive said, i am fearful of the way the scaremongering has effected things, and whst the future holds, all doen to media reporing, and bollox mixed messages. Im not fearful of tge virus itself at all. If people just got on with things and ignored the news, then id put a pound to a penny in it that the reporting would soon reduce sheep would pop back out their pens

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Questions is does anyone still believe in story about China how the virus started there, how they beat the virus...?

So you don't believe the virus originated in China then?

I didn't said that and i don't think anybody knows from us here where it comes from and how... Btw 7 new cases today in country with 1.4 billion people "

Is that something to find funny, people getting covid?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Questions is does anyone still believe in story about China how the virus started there, how they beat the virus...?

So you don't believe the virus originated in China then?

I didn't said that and i don't think anybody knows from us here where it comes from and how... Btw 7 new cases today in country with 1.4 billion people

Is that something to find funny, people getting covid?"

I think he's poking fun at the fact you can believe there's only 7 cases in China today despite a population of 1.4 billion people!.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Questions is does anyone still believe in story about China how the virus started there, how they beat the virus...?

So you don't believe the virus originated in China then?

I didn't said that and i don't think anybody knows from us here where it comes from and how... Btw 7 new cases today in country with 1.4 billion people

Is that something to find funny, people getting covid?

I think he's poking fun at the fact you can believe there's only 7 cases in China today despite a population of 1.4 billion people!."

Possibly..

But it's hardly news that some regimes tell porkies..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

there will be a time when there needs to be a risk taken.. when will the needs of society as a whole out weigh the need to keep the virus at bay.?

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By *avid ElliottCouple
over a year ago

West Worthing


"I honestly wish i was in my 80s, and on my last legs, because theres going to be a shit future for anyone under 40 from now on, when theyve got to deal with the repurcussions of this for over half their lives, all down to media bollox I.M.O.. im so glad i drcided against having kids

Dont be daft and so pessimistic....

It's a challenge but everything will bounce back

It wont while all the folk are buying the bullshit theyre being fed... ok, theres an illness about. Theres lots af illnesses that kill. We deal with them, but being forced to act this way and that way is bollox, but due to those scared of their own shadow, itll be like this for ever

Its certainly not bullshit! I have been a nurse for over 30 years and with my own eyes I have never seen anything as nasty and contagious as this

Im not saying its not out tgere, but the fear being put into folk is out of order, when so many dont know they have it. Ok, its bad in certsin people. But so are other things.

I really cannot understand who is putting fear into you other than the virus ?

Yes I have had many first hand experiences and it's the virus that we are fearing . Nothing to do with bullshit ?

No ones putting fear into me, and i dont fear this virus. Fear mongering has been put into god knows how many folk tho. Im of the thoughts if i get it i get it, just like if i get knocked off my bike when im out and about. The risk is minimal, but out there. But the way some people are scared that its an automatic death sentence if they bump into some one is beyond belief

You do seem to be fearful as you are the one banging on about it !

It's best to be extremely cautious and follow the rules but not afraid hun

Im not fearful of the virus at all. Im fearful of how the country or even world are going to end up because of the way people have responded to it. I fear for children of today having no tomorrow. As for me, id just carry on as per if it was allowed. If i get it i get it, if i dont, i dont. I smoke, and im a wekder so hey ho, im gona have breathing problems somewhere down the line anyway

I must say you seem to be the one in fear ?

Try not to be do fearful .....

As ive said, i am fearful of the way the scaremongering has effected things, and whst the future holds, all doen to media reporing, and bollox mixed messages. Im not fearful of tge virus itself at all. If people just got on with things and ignored the news, then id put a pound to a penny in it that the reporting would soon reduce sheep would pop back out their pens"

However we cannot carry on with things due to the devastating virus ..... really try not to be fearful though of the news as they are reporting what is happening nationally it's no good burying your head in the sand but try not to be fearful. Stay rational stay safe

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By *avid ElliottCouple
over a year ago

West Worthing


"I honestly wish i was in my 80s, and on my last legs, because theres going to be a shit future for anyone under 40 from now on, when theyve got to deal with the repurcussions of this for over half their lives, all down to media bollox I.M.O.. im so glad i drcided against having kids

Dont be daft and so pessimistic....

It's a challenge but everything will bounce back

It wont while all the folk are buying the bullshit theyre being fed... ok, theres an illness about. Theres lots af illnesses that kill. We deal with them, but being forced to act this way and that way is bollox, but due to those scared of their own shadow, itll be like this for ever

Its certainly not bullshit! I have been a nurse for over 30 years and with my own eyes I have never seen anything as nasty and contagious as this

Im not saying its not out tgere, but the fear being put into folk is out of order, when so many dont know they have it. Ok, its bad in certsin people. But so are other things.

I really cannot understand who is putting fear into you other than the virus ?

Yes I have had many first hand experiences and it's the virus that we are fearing . Nothing to do with bullshit ?

No ones putting fear into me, and i dont fear this virus. Fear mongering has been put into god knows how many folk tho. Im of the thoughts if i get it i get it, just like if i get knocked off my bike when im out and about. The risk is minimal, but out there. But the way some people are scared that its an automatic death sentence if they bump into some one is beyond belief

You do seem to be fearful as you are the one banging on about it !

It's best to be extremely cautious and follow the rules but not afraid hun

Im not fearful of the virus at all. Im fearful of how the country or even world are going to end up because of the way people have responded to it. I fear for children of today having no tomorrow. As for me, id just carry on as per if it was allowed. If i get it i get it, if i dont, i dont. I smoke, and im a wekder so hey ho, im gona have breathing problems somewhere down the line anyway

I must say you seem to be the one in fear ?

Try not to be do fearful .....

As ive said, i am fearful of the way the scaremongering has effected things, and whst the future holds, all doen to media reporing, and bollox mixed messages. Im not fearful of tge virus itself at all. If people just got on with things and ignored the news, then id put a pound to a penny in it that the reporting would soon reduce sheep would pop back out their pens"

BTW I think the sheep virus is very different are you thinking of ORF it is contagious though but dont be fearful of that either just stay a safe distance from sheep !

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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago

ribble valley


"I honestly wish i was in my 80s, and on my last legs, because theres going to be a shit future for anyone under 40 from now on, when theyve got to deal with the repurcussions of this for over half their lives, all down to media bollox I.M.O.. im so glad i drcided against having kids

Dont be daft and so pessimistic....

It's a challenge but everything will bounce back

It wont while all the folk are buying the bullshit theyre being fed... ok, theres an illness about. Theres lots af illnesses that kill. We deal with them, but being forced to act this way and that way is bollox, but due to those scared of their own shadow, itll be like this for ever

Its certainly not bullshit! I have been a nurse for over 30 years and with my own eyes I have never seen anything as nasty and contagious as this

Im not saying its not out tgere, but the fear being put into folk is out of order, when so many dont know they have it. Ok, its bad in certsin people. But so are other things.

I really cannot understand who is putting fear into you other than the virus ?

Yes I have had many first hand experiences and it's the virus that we are fearing . Nothing to do with bullshit ?

No ones putting fear into me, and i dont fear this virus. Fear mongering has been put into god knows how many folk tho. Im of the thoughts if i get it i get it, just like if i get knocked off my bike when im out and about. The risk is minimal, but out there. But the way some people are scared that its an automatic death sentence if they bump into some one is beyond belief

You do seem to be fearful as you are the one banging on about it !

It's best to be extremely cautious and follow the rules but not afraid hun

Im not fearful of the virus at all. Im fearful of how the country or even world are going to end up because of the way people have responded to it. I fear for children of today having no tomorrow. As for me, id just carry on as per if it was allowed. If i get it i get it, if i dont, i dont. I smoke, and im a wekder so hey ho, im gona have breathing problems somewhere down the line anyway

I must say you seem to be the one in fear ?

Try not to be do fearful .....

As ive said, i am fearful of the way the scaremongering has effected things, and whst the future holds, all doen to media reporing, and bollox mixed messages. Im not fearful of tge virus itself at all. If people just got on with things and ignored the news, then id put a pound to a penny in it that the reporting would soon reduce sheep would pop back out their pens

BTW I think the sheep virus is very different are you thinking of ORF it is contagious though but dont be fearful of that either just stay a safe distance from sheep !"

Why's he getting close to sheep?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've changed my half optimistic forecast after seeing others views on here.

I think we're up shit creek without a paddle, I'll be surprised if Marshall law isn't brought in by January.

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By *avid ElliottCouple
over a year ago

West Worthing


"I honestly wish i was in my 80s, and on my last legs, because theres going to be a shit future for anyone under 40 from now on, when theyve got to deal with the repurcussions of this for over half their lives, all down to media bollox I.M.O.. im so glad i drcided against having kids

Dont be daft and so pessimistic....

It's a challenge but everything will bounce back

It wont while all the folk are buying the bullshit theyre being fed... ok, theres an illness about. Theres lots af illnesses that kill. We deal with them, but being forced to act this way and that way is bollox, but due to those scared of their own shadow, itll be like this for ever

Its certainly not bullshit! I have been a nurse for over 30 years and with my own eyes I have never seen anything as nasty and contagious as this

Im not saying its not out tgere, but the fear being put into folk is out of order, when so many dont know they have it. Ok, its bad in certsin people. But so are other things.

I really cannot understand who is putting fear into you other than the virus ?

Yes I have had many first hand experiences and it's the virus that we are fearing . Nothing to do with bullshit ?

No ones putting fear into me, and i dont fear this virus. Fear mongering has been put into god knows how many folk tho. Im of the thoughts if i get it i get it, just like if i get knocked off my bike when im out and about. The risk is minimal, but out there. But the way some people are scared that its an automatic death sentence if they bump into some one is beyond belief

You do seem to be fearful as you are the one banging on about it !

It's best to be extremely cautious and follow the rules but not afraid hun

Im not fearful of the virus at all. Im fearful of how the country or even world are going to end up because of the way people have responded to it. I fear for children of today having no tomorrow. As for me, id just carry on as per if it was allowed. If i get it i get it, if i dont, i dont. I smoke, and im a wekder so hey ho, im gona have breathing problems somewhere down the line anyway

I must say you seem to be the one in fear ?

Try not to be do fearful .....

As ive said, i am fearful of the way the scaremongering has effected things, and whst the future holds, all doen to media reporing, and bollox mixed messages. Im not fearful of tge virus itself at all. If people just got on with things and ignored the news, then id put a pound to a penny in it that the reporting would soon reduce sheep would pop back out their pens

BTW I think the sheep virus is very different are you thinking of ORF it is contagious though but dont be fearful of that either just stay a safe distance from sheep !

Why's he getting close to sheep? "

Exactly.. maybe it's a fetish ?

I assumed he chased them on his bike ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Basically its either going to shit or to hell so think I ll choose the latter, at least there ll be loud music, sex and parties

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it is heading the way of the flu. Which is still killing thousands every year in the UK,over a hundred years later, despite the vaccine.

Hiding from it I think is doing nothing apart from limit number of cases. It will be with us from now on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

After spending a day reading these forums you get to understand why the yanks are so keen on keeping there 1st and 2nd amendments.

Might be tempted to buy one myself now

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By *ixenhixCouple
over a year ago

colchester

Where will we be in 2021 after Operation Moonshot is in full swing.Operation Moonshot is the name of the UK government’s newly proposed covid-19 mass testing scheme. The plan, revealed by The BMJ,1 involves an expansion of testing from the current hundreds of thousands of tests each day to 10 million a day by early 2021.

The documents show a proposed three stage rollout. They state that the UK will carry out between 200?000 to 800?000 tests a day between September and December 2020. This might break down to:

200?000 tests a day on people with symptoms,

100?000 a day on people without symptoms in local areas to suppress outbreaks,

250?000 a day on people without symptoms in the NHS and care homes, and

100?000 a day through national prevalence studies.

From December the plans propose increasing daily capacity to between two and four million. This would involve mass testing of all homes in local areas or whole cities when prevalence rises (430?000 tests a day), testing high contact professions such as teachers every week (100?000 a day), and testing people to allow them to enter high risk settings, such as visitors to hospital and care homes.

The plan then states that there would be “full rollout” in early 2021 to 10 million tests a day, to “enable people to return to and maintain normal life.” At this stage, weekly testing would be made available progressively to the whole population to allow people to go to high risk events by using a “digital passport” to show they have tested negative for the virus.

Are there any plans to get the public on board?

The documents show that there have been discussions over how to incentivise people to be tested. They point to enforcing testing “via a sanction-based model” or through “offering individuals opportunities/access from being tested,” such as being able to attend events.

What is a digital passport?

Testing for access to certain spaces features heavily in the documents, with reference to “immunity/virus free passports,” likely to be available through an app. The plans say that testing could be used to “give people assurance that, at least for a limited time, they are unlikely to have the virus and are at low risk of transmitting it to others.”

They say, “A negative test result (or potentially a positive antibody result) may inform not just whether you could attend an in-patient appointment, but if you go to work that day, access a venue, get on a flight or visit an elderly relative.” The documents also point to a “significant expansion” of testing funded and delivered by the private sector, such as in football stadiums to allow access.

So there you have it. I am getting better at copying and pasting.

https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3558

I am assurred the British Medical Journal is a reliable source of information.

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By *orrow my wifeCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"I honestly wish i was in my 80s, and on my last legs, because theres going to be a shit future for anyone under 40 from now on, when theyve got to deal with the repurcussions of this for over half their lives, all down to media bollox I.M.O.. im so glad i drcided against having kids

Dont be daft and so pessimistic....

It's a challenge but everything will bounce back

It wont while all the folk are buying the bullshit theyre being fed... ok, theres an illness about. Theres lots af illnesses that kill. We deal with them, but being forced to act this way and that way is bollox, but due to those scared of their own shadow, itll be like this for ever

Its certainly not bullshit! I have been a nurse for over 30 years and with my own eyes I have never seen anything as nasty and contagious as this

Im not saying its not out tgere, but the fear being put into folk is out of order, when so many dont know they have it. Ok, its bad in certsin people. But so are other things.

I really cannot understand who is putting fear into you other than the virus ?

Yes I have had many first hand experiences and it's the virus that we are fearing . Nothing to do with bullshit ?

No ones putting fear into me, and i dont fear this virus. Fear mongering has been put into god knows how many folk tho. Im of the thoughts if i get it i get it, just like if i get knocked off my bike when im out and about. The risk is minimal, but out there. But the way some people are scared that its an automatic death sentence if they bump into some one is beyond belief

You do seem to be fearful as you are the one banging on about it !

It's best to be extremely cautious and follow the rules but not afraid hun

Im not fearful of the virus at all. Im fearful of how the country or even world are going to end up because of the way people have responded to it. I fear for children of today having no tomorrow. As for me, id just carry on as per if it was allowed. If i get it i get it, if i dont, i dont. I smoke, and im a wekder so hey ho, im gona have breathing problems somewhere down the line anyway

I must say you seem to be the one in fear ?

Try not to be do fearful .....

As ive said, i am fearful of the way the scaremongering has effected things, and whst the future holds, all doen to media reporing, and bollox mixed messages. Im not fearful of tge virus itself at all. If people just got on with things and ignored the news, then id put a pound to a penny in it that the reporting would soon reduce sheep would pop back out their pens"

Sheep! What has this got to do with sheep ? Are they carriers ?

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside


"The research will show most of what they forced on us was a waste of time and the virus wasn't as bad as thought anyway. Except the economic consequences which will be dire."

You maybe correct but then everyone is correct in hindsight.

Decision makers will always be wrong in someone's eyes as it's almost impossible to prove what if's.

I just hope not too many families suffer not from just deaths but ongoing medical issues.

Sadly, most, not all, friends who have tested positive have not had a great time of it.

Take care everyone.

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