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"Clashes erupted in Central London as Police tried to break up an anti-locked down protest. Police said the Crowd were asked to leave because they had not complied with social distanceing as we all understand, it's bloody rocket science FFS Protesters chanting: Shame on you, Shane on you..... Police used batons against protesters, leaving some with visible injuries. Protesters than marched to Hyde Park where more clashes followed. Protesters than chanting:Freedom, Freedom, Freedom Yes police were out of order AGAIN.. This protest was given the full go ahead from Westminster city... " It was given the go-ahead on the understanding social distancing tock place. This was not followed looking at picks so they broke the law. So all should be fined for doing so. Wonder if it the same people that don't wear face masks when shopping. It's the I'm all right brigade. | |||
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"'The Government want to Control Us Like the Hunger Games'. hahahaha - hahahaha So wish I was there now. And they say Live Comedy is dead during the Pandemic. " Right?! Baffles me that so many people don't understand the government is literally trying to PROTECT our freedom the more effort everyone can make at once = the quicker we can get back to some sort of normality and "freedom". Also makes me laugh that these same people complaining about "freedom" are probably giving their data to every single website/app they use, every card purchase they make, every phone call etc etc. Honestly wearing masks and staying home is not that much of a stretch | |||
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"Clashes erupted in Central London as Police tried to break up an anti-locked down protest. Police said the Crowd were asked to leave because they had not complied with social distanceing as we all understand, it's bloody rocket science FFS Protesters chanting: Shame on you, Shane on you..... Police used batons against protesters, leaving some with visible injuries. Protesters than marched to Hyde Park where more clashes followed. Protesters than chanting:Freedom, Freedom, Freedom " It's not the time for protesters. Should have tear gassed them first | |||
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"Clashes erupted in Central London as Police tried to break up an anti-locked down protest. Police said the Crowd were asked to leave because they had not complied with social distanceing as we all understand, it's bloody rocket science FFS Protesters chanting: Shame on you, Shane on you..... Police used batons against protesters, leaving some with visible injuries. Protesters than marched to Hyde Park where more clashes followed. Protesters than chanting:Freedom, Freedom, Freedom It's not the time for protesters. Should have tear gassed them first " Such a progressive nation we live in. | |||
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"Hi Amber, I have a question for you; Can you please explain how "effort" against a virus will give you normality. Thanks in advance, cos Im really really looking forward to normality. I have a horrible thought that it isnt going to happen though. " Less cases = less spread = pubs staying open past 10pm | |||
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" Thay should spray them all with acid. Excuse me? You really want to say this?" I'm afraid I employ a few people who have no common sence. Tried speaking to the like children. No good. So what's left. Let them fuck it up for the rest . Or do what were good at. Do nothing | |||
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"It seems the idiot bag has burst again" You have a problem with legitimate protest? | |||
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" Thay should spray them all with acid. Excuse me? You really want to say this? I'm afraid I employ a few people who have no common sence. Tried speaking to the like children. No good. So what's left. Let them fuck it up for the rest . Or do what were good at. Do nothing" Sense. | |||
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" It's not the time for protesters. Should have tear gassed them first " It's exactly the time for protest and proud that some of my family were there. Perhaps you could recommend a history book telling of the time that a government took away all a peoples' rights and then gave them back? For those people saying we need to stay in lockdown to prevent deaths: Do you think someone who may die from Covid-19 is more important than someone dying because their cardiac operation or diagnosis for cancer is postponed is ok? Even the government's own figures show that nearly twice as many will die from the effects of lockdown than from CV19. Where exactly is the logic in that? | |||
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"It will be interesting to see whether XR and BLM protests are broken up with the same sense of enthusiasm." They won't be.... | |||
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"Conveniently for the government, if more than six people get together police can charge in batons raised. They have us by the short and curries, and they can keep this going as long as they want. " | |||
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" It's not the time for protesters. Should have tear gassed them first It's exactly the time for protest and proud that some of my family were there. Perhaps you could recommend a history book telling of the time that a government took away all a peoples' rights and then gave them back? For those people saying we need to stay in lockdown to prevent deaths: Do you think someone who may die from Covid-19 is more important than someone dying because their cardiac operation or diagnosis for cancer is postponed is ok? Even the government's own figures show that nearly twice as many will die from the effects of lockdown than from CV19. Where exactly is the logic in that? " Yes yes yes yes yes | |||
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" It's not the time for protesters. Should have tear gassed them first It's exactly the time for protest and proud that some of my family were there. Perhaps you could recommend a history book telling of the time that a government took away all a peoples' rights and then gave them back? For those people saying we need to stay in lockdown to prevent deaths: Do you think someone who may die from Covid-19 is more important than someone dying because their cardiac operation or diagnosis for cancer is postponed is ok? Even the government's own figures show that nearly twice as many will die from the effects of lockdown than from CV19. Where exactly is the logic in that? " | |||
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"It will be interesting to see whether XR and BLM protests are broken up with the same sense of enthusiasm." Are you saying the police go easy on xr? | |||
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"Conveniently for the government, if more than six people get together police can charge in batons raised. They have us by the short and curries, and they can keep this going as long as they want. " Political protests are exempt from the rule of 6. This protest was allowed as long as social distancing and covid rules were observed. | |||
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"Conveniently for the government, if more than six people get together police can charge in batons raised. They have us by the short and curries, and they can keep this going as long as they want. " The rule of six was obviously brought in to quell the protests | |||
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" It's not the time for protesters. Should have tear gassed them first It's exactly the time for protest and proud that some of my family were there. Perhaps you could recommend a history book telling of the time that a government took away all a peoples' rights and then gave them back? For those people saying we need to stay in lockdown to prevent deaths: Do you think someone who may die from Covid-19 is more important than someone dying because their cardiac operation or diagnosis for cancer is postponed is ok? Even the government's own figures show that nearly twice as many will die from the effects of lockdown than from CV19. Where exactly is the logic in that? " Do you have a link to these government figures. I can't find them. | |||
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"Conveniently for the government, if more than six people get together police can charge in batons raised. They have us by the short and curries, and they can keep this going as long as they want. Political protests are exempt from the rule of 6. This protest was allowed as long as social distancing and covid rules were observed. " Yes snd tricky with 35,000 and next time i suggext that we all hold outstretched hands together snd spread out maintaining 2mtr rule and bring lonfon to a standstill... Tried the nice approach time for something else. | |||
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"It will be interesting to see whether XR and BLM protests are broken up with the same sense of enthusiasm. Are you saying the police go easy on xr?" From what I hear from people on the ground, break ups of the freedom protests were orchestrated. Not followed BLM or XR to be fair x | |||
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" Perhaps you could recommend a history book telling of the time that a government took away all a peoples' rights and then gave them back? " Prohibition. Rationing. Abolition of slavery. Just off the top of my head, y'know. | |||
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"It seems the idiot bag has burst again You have a problem with legitimate protest?" Legitimate protest !! Im splitting my sides here | |||
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"It seems the idiot bag has burst again You have a problem with legitimate protest?" No I don't. To organize a protest of thIS size and magnitude. Dose not happen over night. There is awful lot of organisation behind it. WHO IS ORGANISING THESE LEGITIMATE PROTESTS it must be avery well connected lot. Who. But again this is the wrong time. Unless the government arranged it. Now there's a thought. Oh thought. Sorry Dont take offence | |||
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" It's not the time for protesters. Should have tear gassed them first It's exactly the time for protest and proud that some of my family were there. Perhaps you could recommend a history book telling of the time that a government took away all a peoples' rights and then gave them back? For those people saying we need to stay in lockdown to prevent deaths: Do you think someone who may die from Covid-19 is more important than someone dying because their cardiac operation or diagnosis for cancer is postponed is ok? Even the government's own figures show that nearly twice as many will die from the effects of lockdown than from CV19. Where exactly is the logic in that? Do you have a link to these government figures. I can't find them. " Im wondering how hard your tried - go on gov.uk and you can find all sorts of interesting stuff. They are actually very open with their information. Go on the site and have a search. | |||
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"It seems the idiot bag has burst again You have a problem with legitimate protest? Legitimate protest !! Im splitting my sides here " It was.. Had backing from Westminster city Council... | |||
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"It will be interesting to see whether XR and BLM protests are broken up with the same sense of enthusiasm. Are you saying the police go easy on xr? From what I hear from people on the ground, break ups of the freedom protests were orchestrated. Not followed BLM or XR to be fair x " I'd be very surprised if they go easy on xr Blm is possibly more politically charged but it's very rare you see riot police take the softly softly approach to anyone. | |||
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"Conveniently for the government, if more than six people get together police can charge in batons raised. They have us by the short and curries, and they can keep this going as long as they want. The rule of six was obviously brought in to quell the protests" Every COVID Legislation we have had has included Our Right to Protest. What has also been clear throughout in the the Legislation is that each Protest is Covid Safe. The Rule of Six doesn't apply. Safe distancing does. | |||
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"It seems the idiot bag has burst again You have a problem with legitimate protest? Legitimate protest !! Im splitting my sides here " If it wasnt legitimate it wouldnt go ahead surely? | |||
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"It seems the idiot bag has burst again You have a problem with legitimate protest? Legitimate protest !! Im splitting my sides here " Okay - so what exactly is your problem with what has been said? | |||
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"From what I read the problem came from the protesters not following the rules set for the protest.... Police officers were also injured " Standard police defence whenever there is any trouble. | |||
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"It will be interesting to see whether XR and BLM protests are broken up with the same sense of enthusiasm. Are you saying the police go easy on xr? From what I hear from people on the ground, break ups of the freedom protests were orchestrated. Not followed BLM or XR to be fair x I'd be very surprised if they go easy on xr Blm is possibly more politically charged but it's very rare you see riot police take the softly softly approach to anyone." XR marched a few weeks ago... No issues with police and were left to it | |||
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"It seems the idiot bag has burst again You have a problem with legitimate protest? No I don't. To organize a protest of thIS size and magnitude. Dose not happen over night. There is awful lot of organisation behind it. WHO IS ORGANISING THESE LEGITIMATE PROTESTS it must be avery well connected lot. Who. But again this is the wrong time. Unless the government arranged it. Now there's a thought. Oh thought. Sorry Dont take offence " Just bizarre. | |||
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"Conveniently for the government, if more than six people get together police can charge in batons raised. They have us by the short and curries, and they can keep this going as long as they want. The rule of six was obviously brought in to quell the protests Every COVID Legislation we have had has included Our Right to Protest. What has also been clear throughout in the the Legislation is that each Protest is Covid Safe. The Rule of Six doesn't apply. Safe distancing does. " From the photos Ive seen from a forum member who attended, I would say social distancing was followed. | |||
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"With Piers Corbyn attendance at most things these days and taking into account his age and vulnerability. Bit strange he hasn’t caught Covid yet....................... Hmmmmmm t" TBH I don't think Covid would be bothered with him | |||
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"It will be interesting to see whether XR and BLM protests are broken up with the same sense of enthusiasm. Are you saying the police go easy on xr? From what I hear from people on the ground, break ups of the freedom protests were orchestrated. Not followed BLM or XR to be fair x I'd be very surprised if they go easy on xr Blm is possibly more politically charged but it's very rare you see riot police take the softly softly approach to anyone. XR marched a few weeks ago... No issues with police and were left to it" I recall them hauling people off the streets a while ago. There is no way in the world they would go easy on the likes of xr. | |||
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"From what I read the problem came from the protesters not following the rules set for the protest.... Police officers were also injured " IF They were it would be from sekf defence... Police used batons | |||
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" Perhaps you could recommend a history book telling of the time that a government took away all a peoples' rights and then gave them back? Prohibition. Rationing. Abolition of slavery. Just off the top of my head, y'know. " Prohibition was repealed due to at least half the population disregarding it and due to the gang violence that ensued. Slavery was abolished due to protests and outcry leading to enlightened views. These rights were not given back voluntarily but seized back. | |||
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"It will be interesting to see whether XR and BLM protests are broken up with the same sense of enthusiasm. Are you saying the police go easy on xr? From what I hear from people on the ground, break ups of the freedom protests were orchestrated. Not followed BLM or XR to be fair x I'd be very surprised if they go easy on xr Blm is possibly more politically charged but it's very rare you see riot police take the softly softly approach to anyone. XR marched a few weeks ago... No issues with police and were left to it I recall them hauling people off the streets a while ago. There is no way in the world they would go easy on the likes of xr." If i could send you video i would | |||
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" Perhaps you could recommend a history book telling of the time that a government took away all a peoples' rights and then gave them back? Prohibition. Rationing. Abolition of slavery. Just off the top of my head, y'know. Prohibition was repealed due to at least half the population disregarding it and due to the gang violence that ensued. Slavery was abolished due to protests and outcry leading to enlightened views. These rights were not given back voluntarily but seized back." | |||
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"From what I read the problem came from the protesters not following the rules set for the protest.... Police officers were also injured IF They were it would be from sekf defence... Police used batons " I dont know about this protest yet, but the general feeling from two weeks ago was that the riot police deliberately moved forward, in an aggressive way, towards a peaceful crowd. | |||
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" Perhaps you could recommend a history book telling of the time that a government took away all a peoples' rights and then gave them back? Prohibition. Rationing. Abolition of slavery. Just off the top of my head, y'know. Prohibition was repealed due to at least half the population disregarding it and due to the gang violence that ensued. Slavery was abolished due to protests and outcry leading to enlightened views. These rights were not given back voluntarily but seized back." | |||
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" Perhaps you could recommend a history book telling of the time that a government took away all a peoples' rights and then gave them back? Prohibition. Rationing. Abolition of slavery. Just off the top of my head, y'know. Prohibition was repealed due to at least half the population disregarding it and due to the gang violence that ensued. Slavery was abolished due to protests and outcry leading to enlightened views. These rights were not given back voluntarily but seized back." You missed out rationing. | |||
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"It will be interesting to see whether XR and BLM protests are broken up with the same sense of enthusiasm. Are you saying the police go easy on xr? From what I hear from people on the ground, break ups of the freedom protests were orchestrated. Not followed BLM or XR to be fair x I'd be very surprised if they go easy on xr Blm is possibly more politically charged but it's very rare you see riot police take the softly softly approach to anyone. XR marched a few weeks ago... No issues with police and were left to it I recall them hauling people off the streets a while ago. There is no way in the world they would go easy on the likes of xr. If i could send you video i would " https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/03/extinction-rebellion-rights-peaceful-protest-threat-police Hardly softly softly? Anyway the thread is about today..dont wanna derail it. | |||
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"From what I read the problem came from the protesters not following the rules set for the protest.... Police officers were also injured IF They were it would be from sekf defence... Police used batons I dont know about this protest yet, but the general feeling from two weeks ago was that the riot police deliberately moved forward, in an aggressive way, towards a peaceful crowd." Happened again this week Daisy | |||
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"It will be interesting to see whether XR and BLM protests are broken up with the same sense of enthusiasm. Are you saying the police go easy on xr? From what I hear from people on the ground, break ups of the freedom protests were orchestrated. Not followed BLM or XR to be fair x I'd be very surprised if they go easy on xr Blm is possibly more politically charged but it's very rare you see riot police take the softly softly approach to anyone. XR marched a few weeks ago... No issues with police and were left to it I recall them hauling people off the streets a while ago. There is no way in the world they would go easy on the likes of xr. If i could send you video i would https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/03/extinction-rebellion-rights-peaceful-protest-threat-police Hardly softly softly? Anyway the thread is about today..dont wanna derail it." | |||
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" Perhaps you could recommend a history book telling of the time that a government took away all a peoples' rights and then gave them back? Prohibition. Rationing. Abolition of slavery. Just off the top of my head, y'know. Prohibition was repealed due to at least half the population disregarding it and due to the gang violence that ensued. Slavery was abolished due to protests and outcry leading to enlightened views. These rights were not given back voluntarily but seized back." Totally wrong on both counts. Slavery was abolished because enlightened men wanted it that way. Prohibition was Abolished because Powerful men saw the Opportunity to wrest power from those who had it by using popular opinion to gain votes. | |||
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"It will be interesting to see whether XR and BLM protests are broken up with the same sense of enthusiasm. Are you saying the police go easy on xr? From what I hear from people on the ground, break ups of the freedom protests were orchestrated. Not followed BLM or XR to be fair x I'd be very surprised if they go easy on xr Blm is possibly more politically charged but it's very rare you see riot police take the softly softly approach to anyone. XR marched a few weeks ago... No issues with police and were left to it I recall them hauling people off the streets a while ago. There is no way in the world they would go easy on the likes of xr. If i could send you video i would " MASSIVE big up to this man, standing for all of us.. Absolute legend x | |||
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" Perhaps you could recommend a history book telling of the time that a government took away all a peoples' rights and then gave them back? Prohibition. Rationing. Abolition of slavery. Just off the top of my head, y'know. Prohibition was repealed due to at least half the population disregarding it and due to the gang violence that ensued. Slavery was abolished due to protests and outcry leading to enlightened views. These rights were not given back voluntarily but seized back. You missed out rationing. " Well that had to end for economic reasons, businesses could make more money from selling and from having well fed and productive workers. Plus, the politicians themselves were starving too so it was in their interests too!!! | |||
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"From what I saw on the videos the group involved with the police weren't social distancing and were pretty out of order. " How were they out of order? | |||
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" Perhaps you could recommend a history book telling of the time that a government took away all a peoples' rights and then gave them back? Prohibition. Rationing. Abolition of slavery. Just off the top of my head, y'know. Prohibition was repealed due to at least half the population disregarding it and due to the gang violence that ensued. Slavery was abolished due to protests and outcry leading to enlightened views. These rights were not given back voluntarily but seized back. You missed out rationing. Well that had to end for economic reasons, businesses could make more money from selling and from having well fed and productive workers. Plus, the politicians themselves were starving too so it was in their interests too!!!" So a bit like saying... That lockdown will also have to end at some point because of economic reasons... Therefore the government will be voluntarily giving us our rights back... Hmm... | |||
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"From what I saw on the videos the group involved with the police weren't social distancing and were pretty out of order. How were they out of order?" What did thay think thay could achieve. Nothing. So why | |||
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"From what I saw on the videos the group involved with the police weren't social distancing and were pretty out of order. How were they out of order?" Goading the police and throwing things.... Hardly peaceful and if you want to make a point then do it peacefully and so people listen. | |||
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"From what I saw on the videos the group involved with the police weren't social distancing and were pretty out of order. How were they out of order? What did thay think thay could achieve. Nothing. So why" Well to be fair the pubs are closed again, must not be much else to do. | |||
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" Perhaps you could recommend a history book telling of the time that a government took away all a peoples' rights and then gave them back? Prohibition. Rationing. Abolition of slavery. Just off the top of my head, y'know. Prohibition was repealed due to at least half the population disregarding it and due to the gang violence that ensued. Slavery was abolished due to protests and outcry leading to enlightened views. These rights were not given back voluntarily but seized back. You missed out rationing. Well that had to end for economic reasons, businesses could make more money from selling and from having well fed and productive workers. Plus, the politicians themselves were starving too so it was in their interests too!!! So a bit like saying... That lockdown will also have to end at some point because of economic reasons... Therefore the government will be voluntarily giving us our rights back... Hmm..." The "lockdown" should have already ended because of financial reasons.(Apart from anything else!!). It hasnt. This is a cause for very serious concern. | |||
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" What did thay think thay could achieve. Nothing. So why Well to be fair the pubs are closed again, must not be much else to do. " hahahha. Now that is funny. | |||
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"From what I saw on the videos the group involved with the police weren't social distancing and were pretty out of order. How were they out of order? What did thay think thay could achieve. Nothing. So why" Is that some sort of attempt at a haiku? | |||
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" Perhaps you could recommend a history book telling of the time that a government took away all a peoples' rights and then gave them back? Prohibition. Rationing. Abolition of slavery. Just off the top of my head, y'know. Prohibition was repealed due to at least half the population disregarding it and due to the gang violence that ensued. Slavery was abolished due to protests and outcry leading to enlightened views. These rights were not given back voluntarily but seized back. You missed out rationing. Well that had to end for economic reasons, businesses could make more money from selling and from having well fed and productive workers. Plus, the politicians themselves were starving too so it was in their interests too!!!" I doubt the politicians were starving. | |||
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"From what I read the problem came from the protesters not following the rules set for the protest.... Police officers were also injured Standard police defence whenever there is any trouble." In light of what happened yesterday that comment is abhorrent. | |||
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"Having speakers such as David Icke and a Corbyn at this rally really does tell you all you need to know about the protestors. " Which corbyn was there? | |||
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" Perhaps you could recommend a history book telling of the time that a government took away all a peoples' rights and then gave them back? Prohibition. Rationing. Abolition of slavery. Just off the top of my head, y'know. Prohibition was repealed due to at least half the population disregarding it and due to the gang violence that ensued. Slavery was abolished due to protests and outcry leading to enlightened views. These rights were not given back voluntarily but seized back. You missed out rationing. Well that had to end for economic reasons, businesses could make more money from selling and from having well fed and productive workers. Plus, the politicians themselves were starving too so it was in their interests too!!! So a bit like saying... That lockdown will also have to end at some point because of economic reasons... Therefore the government will be voluntarily giving us our rights back... Hmm... The "lockdown" should have already ended because of financial reasons.(Apart from anything else!!). It hasnt. This is a cause for very serious concern." The problem could be a political one. The current government has to be SEEN to be doing all it can to tackle Covid (even if the measures implemented are nonsensical or likely to be ineffective) as come election time the Opposition party will accuse them of being incompetent and costing lives. The aim of any political party is to gain power and to remain in power, which means presenting to the electorate that it is they who are on their side and NOT their opposition. | |||
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"From what I read the problem came from the protesters not following the rules set for the protest.... Police officers were also injured Standard police defence whenever there is any trouble. In light of what happened yesterday that comment is abhorrent. " Why? | |||
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"Just a thought thought. To all the fab supporters of this protest. How many people how much resources do you think it needs to organise a protest like this. Just try and get 10 family members in th same place at the same time. Never mind the thousands that just turned up in London at the sam time. ????????? Who's behind it" The organisers? | |||
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"What's funny is I bet the majority of these protestors raging against the government voted Tory last year and would vote Tory tomorrow. " Did you poll them all today? | |||
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" Perhaps you could recommend a history book telling of the time that a government took away all a peoples' rights and then gave them back? Prohibition. Rationing. Abolition of slavery. Just off the top of my head, y'know. Prohibition was repealed due to at least half the population disregarding it and due to the gang violence that ensued. Slavery was abolished due to protests and outcry leading to enlightened views. These rights were not given back voluntarily but seized back. You missed out rationing. Well that had to end for economic reasons, businesses could make more money from selling and from having well fed and productive workers. Plus, the politicians themselves were starving too so it was in their interests too!!! I doubt the politicians were starving." They will have have their snouts in the trough, come hell or high water, on either side of the argument. They will let us peasants thrash it out amongst ourselves, and enjoy the spoils either way. | |||
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"Just a thought thought. To all the fab supporters of this protest. How many people how much resources do you think it needs to organise a protest like this. Just try and get 10 family members in th same place at the same time. Never mind the thousands that just turned up in London at the sam time. ????????? Who's behind it The organisers?" Two funnies in one day lol. | |||
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"Just a thought thought. To all the fab supporters of this protest. How many people how much resources do you think it needs to organise a protest like this. Just try and get 10 family members in th same place at the same time. Never mind the thousands that just turned up in London at the sam time. ????????? Who's behind it" Exactly - there is no one party, but thousands of people still managed to meet and express their displeasure at this government. Pretty awesome when you think about it! | |||
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"What's funny is I bet the majority of these protestors raging against the government voted Tory last year and would vote Tory tomorrow. Did you poll them all today?" No, it's just what I reckon. You can tell that from the bit where I wrote 'I bet' rather than 'I have evidence to show'. | |||
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"Just a thought thought. To all the fab supporters of this protest. How many people how much resources do you think it needs to organise a protest like this. Just try and get 10 family members in th same place at the same time. Never mind the thousands that just turned up in London at the sam time. ????????? Who's behind it The organisers? Two funnies in one day lol. " On form today. | |||
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"Just a thought thought. To all the fab supporters of this protest. How many people how much resources do you think it needs to organise a protest like this. Just try and get 10 family members in th same place at the same time. Never mind the thousands that just turned up in London at the sam time. ????????? Who's behind it The organisers? Two funnies in one day lol. On form today." Go. Lionel !!!! | |||
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"What's funny is I bet the majority of these protestors raging against the government voted Tory last year and would vote Tory tomorrow. Did you poll them all today? No, it's just what I reckon. You can tell that from the bit where I wrote 'I bet' rather than 'I have evidence to show'. " Right. | |||
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"What's funny is I bet the majority of these protestors raging against the government voted Tory last year and would vote Tory tomorrow. " If they voted tory and disagree with the Tory governments actions, wouldnt it actually add more validity to the argument?? | |||
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"Clashes erupted in Central London as Police tried to break up an anti-locked down protest. Police said the Crowd were asked to leave because they had not complied with social distanceing as we all understand, it's bloody rocket science FFS Protesters chanting: Shame on you, Shane on you..... Police used batons against protesters, leaving some with visible injuries. Protesters than marched to Hyde Park where more clashes followed. Protesters than chanting:Freedom, Freedom, Freedom It's not the time for protesters. Should have tear gassed them first " Good to know who supports true democracy. | |||
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"Just a thought thought. To all the fab supporters of this protest. How many people how much resources do you think it needs to organise a protest like this. Just try and get 10 family members in th same place at the same time. Never mind the thousands that just turned up in London at the sam time. ????????? Who's behind it The organisers? Who are the organisers. Dose any one know. When terrorists do something sometimes thay own up to it. Bet no one owns up to organising this lot" Id love to say I organised it | |||
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"Just a thought thought. To all the fab supporters of this protest. How many people how much resources do you think it needs to organise a protest like this. Just try and get 10 family members in th same place at the same time. Never mind the thousands that just turned up in London at the sam time. ????????? Who's behind it The organisers? Who are the organisers. Dose any one know. When terrorists do something sometimes thay own up to it. Bet no one owns up to organising this lot" I'm fairly sure you have to apply for a demo and I doubt you sign the application anonymously. | |||
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"It seems the idiot bag has burst again You have a problem with legitimate protest?" It was not a legitimate protest as social distances where not adhered to. Not the time for this I do hope the organisation involved got a QR code now a legal requirement. | |||
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"Look back over the lockdown, the blm protests had some of the worst scene seen during a protest on out shores, the way the police were attacked was a disgrace, yet they still didn't break up the protest despite the lack of social distancing. In a way I hope they have learnt their lesson but I doubt it and are clamping down on some of this stupid behaviour during a global pandemic. " The far right one was worse yet you choose not to mention them. | |||
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"Clashes erupted in Central London as Police tried to break up an anti-locked down protest. Police said the Crowd were asked to leave because they had not complied with social distanceing as we all understand, it's bloody rocket science FFS Protesters chanting: Shame on you, Shane on you..... Police used batons against protesters, leaving some with visible injuries. Protesters than marched to Hyde Park where more clashes followed. Protesters than chanting:Freedom, Freedom, Freedom Yes police were out of order AGAIN.. This protest was given the full go ahead from Westminster city... " According to a report, the protestors breached their own risk assessment. Apparently you have to submit a risk assessment before you can protest now. | |||
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"Having speakers such as David Icke and a Corbyn at this rally really does tell you all you need to know about the protestors. " David Icke? Thought the lizard men had dragged him off to their underworld years ago. I’m not one for conspiracy theories (re-phrase that as “I do love a good conspiracy theory”) but the idea that this march was planned and backed by government, using paid stooges, in order to further restrictions upon our civil liberties may well have legs to it (and hopefully tits and a tight pussy too!) The rule of six is easily broken though...if there’s more than six of you, just meet at the pub!!! | |||
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"Clashes erupted in Central London as Police tried to break up an anti-locked down protest. Police said the Crowd were asked to leave because they had not complied with social distanceing as we all understand, it's bloody rocket science FFS Protesters chanting: Shame on you, Shane on you..... Police used batons against protesters, leaving some with visible injuries. Protesters than marched to Hyde Park where more clashes followed. Protesters than chanting:Freedom, Freedom, Freedom It's not the time for protesters. Should have tear gassed them first " Go easy on them, rubber bullets first, then the tear gas. It will make them think twice, about hanging about too long. | |||
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"Clashes erupted in Central London as Police tried to break up an anti-locked down protest. Police said the Crowd were asked to leave because they had not complied with social distanceing as we all understand, it's bloody rocket science FFS Protesters chanting: Shame on you, Shane on you..... Police used batons against protesters, leaving some with visible injuries. Protesters than marched to Hyde Park where more clashes followed. Protesters than chanting:Freedom, Freedom, Freedom Yes police were out of order AGAIN.. This protest was given the full go ahead from Westminster city... According to a report, the protestors breached their own risk assessment. Apparently you have to submit a risk assessment before you can protest now." I wonder if that was because the police were using riot squad and police horses to hustle people closer together ?? | |||
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" Perhaps you could recommend a history book telling of the time that a government took away all a peoples' rights and then gave them back? Prohibition. Rationing. Abolition of slavery. Just off the top of my head, y'know. Prohibition was repealed due to at least half the population disregarding it and due to the gang violence that ensued. Slavery was abolished due to protests and outcry leading to enlightened views. These rights were not given back voluntarily but seized back. You missed out rationing. Well that had to end for economic reasons, businesses could make more money from selling and from having well fed and productive workers. Plus, the politicians themselves were starving too so it was in their interests too!!! So a bit like saying... That lockdown will also have to end at some point because of economic reasons... Therefore the government will be voluntarily giving us our rights back... Hmm... The "lockdown" should have already ended because of financial reasons.(Apart from anything else!!). It hasnt. This is a cause for very serious concern." Tbf in my opinion the more serious concern is all the delusional "freedom fighters" crawling out of the woodwork. Too bad the 5G masts haven't been able to scramble some common sense into people's brains | |||
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"Clashes erupted in Central London as Police tried to break up an anti-locked down protest. Police said the Crowd were asked to leave because they had not complied with social distanceing as we all understand, it's bloody rocket science FFS Protesters chanting: Shame on you, Shane on you..... Police used batons against protesters, leaving some with visible injuries. Protesters than marched to Hyde Park where more clashes followed. Protesters than chanting:Freedom, Freedom, Freedom It's not the time for protesters. Should have tear gassed them first Go easy on them, rubber bullets first, then the tear gas. It will make them think twice, about hanging about too long." Last time I looked we didnt live in a facist dictatorship. | |||
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"From what I read the problem came from the protesters not following the rules set for the protest.... Police officers were also injured " The rules the protest organisers put in place, that Westminster council agreed to them. | |||
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"Clashes erupted in Central London as Police tried to break up an anti-locked down protest. Police said the Crowd were asked to leave because they had not complied with social distanceing as we all understand, it's bloody rocket science FFS Protesters chanting: Shame on you, Shane on you..... Police used batons against protesters, leaving some with visible injuries. Protesters than marched to Hyde Park where more clashes followed. Protesters than chanting:Freedom, Freedom, Freedom It's not the time for protesters. Should have tear gassed them first Go easy on them, rubber bullets first, then the tear gas. It will make them think twice, about hanging about too long. Last time I looked we didnt live in a facist dictatorship." I think you need to take another look, lionel. I think we might be aided and abetted by our friends and neighbours, no less. | |||
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"From what I read the problem came from the protesters not following the rules set for the protest.... Police officers were also injured IF They were it would be from sekf defence... Police used batons I dont know about this protest yet, but the general feeling from two weeks ago was that the riot police deliberately moved forward, in an aggressive way, towards a peaceful crowd." From what I saw it was assertive not aggressive, if they use rubber bullets or bean bag shots I would class it as aggressive then. | |||
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"From what I saw on the videos the group involved with the police weren't social distancing and were pretty out of order. How were they out of order? Goading the police and throwing things.... Hardly peaceful and if you want to make a point then do it peacefully and so people listen." If anything was thrown?? it was after the police charged in heavy handed and seized the PA equipment... We even had a minutes silence for the Croydon police officer killed... Thstschow peaceful it was | |||
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"From what I read the problem came from the protesters not following the rules set for the protest.... Police officers were also injured IF They were it would be from sekf defence... Police used batons I dont know about this protest yet, but the general feeling from two weeks ago was that the riot police deliberately moved forward, in an aggressive way, towards a peaceful crowd. From what I saw it was assertive not aggressive, if they use rubber bullets or bean bag shots I would class it as aggressive then." I very much doubt you saw anything. But for arguments sake - firing anything into a peaceful and lawfully protesting crowd is an act of agression. | |||
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"This is shit why protest about lockdown if the idiots dont and wont social distance thats why there in lockdown common sense just idiots who wanna cause yrouble" Or maybe they believe that in a democracy they have the right to be heard? Historically, protest has been a huge catalyst for change. Look at the civil rights movement or the suffragettes for instance...would you label them as idiots who just wanted to cause trouble? Like brexit, the issue of covid19 is deeply divisive...and the powers that be are sitting back and rubbing their hands as they obtain more power and control over the masses. It’s all a bit too ‘Orwellian’ for my liking...1984 but 36 years later than envisaged. The effects of covid are beginning to be understood and acted upon, but I bet when (if) a vaccine is found, they will still be glacially slow to restore tho ha the way they were...think along the lines of petrol stations that put the price of petrol up as quick as a flash yet take days and weeks to put it down, and apply that rationale to a governmental context. | |||
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"This is shit why protest about lockdown if the idiots dont and wont social distance thats why there in lockdown common sense just idiots who wanna cause yrouble Or maybe they believe that in a democracy they have the right to be heard? Historically, protest has been a huge catalyst for change. Look at the civil rights movement or the suffragettes for instance...would you label them as idiots who just wanted to cause trouble? Like brexit, the issue of covid19 is deeply divisive...and the powers that be are sitting back and rubbing their hands as they obtain more power and control over the masses. It’s all a bit too ‘Orwellian’ for my liking...1984 but 36 years later than envisaged. The effects of covid are beginning to be understood and acted upon, but I bet when (if) a vaccine is found, they will still be glacially slow to restore tho ha the way they were...think along the lines of petrol stations that put the price of petrol up as quick as a flash yet take days and weeks to put it down, and apply that rationale to a governmental context." | |||
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"From what I read the problem came from the protesters not following the rules set for the protest.... Police officers were also injured IF They were it would be from sekf defence... Police used batons I dont know about this protest yet, but the general feeling from two weeks ago was that the riot police deliberately moved forward, in an aggressive way, towards a peaceful crowd. From what I saw it was assertive not aggressive, if they use rubber bullets or bean bag shots I would class it as aggressive then." Using a baton =assertive. | |||
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"From what I read the problem came from the protesters not following the rules set for the protest.... Police officers were also injured The rules the protest organisers put in place, that Westminster council agreed to them. If you could provide links to clarify and verify that, please do - it would be very useful" Like a previous manager told me, you want the information go and look it up yourself. | |||
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"This is shit why protest about lockdown if the idiots dont and wont social distance thats why there in lockdown common sense just idiots who wanna cause yrouble Or maybe they believe that in a democracy they have the right to be heard? Historically, protest has been a huge catalyst for change. Look at the civil rights movement or the suffragettes for instance...would you label them as idiots who just wanted to cause trouble? Like brexit, the issue of covid19 is deeply divisive...and the powers that be are sitting back and rubbing their hands as they obtain more power and control over the masses. It’s all a bit too ‘Orwellian’ for my liking...1984 but 36 years later than envisaged. The effects of covid are beginning to be understood and acted upon, but I bet when (if) a vaccine is found, they will still be glacially slow to restore tho ha the way they were...think along the lines of petrol stations that put the price of petrol up as quick as a flash yet take days and weeks to put it down, and apply that rationale to a governmental context." So you think if there hadn't been a virus we'd have had a random lockdown imposed on us? | |||
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"Clashes erupted in Central London as Police tried to break up an anti-locked down protest. Police said the Crowd were asked to leave because they had not complied with social distanceing as we all understand, it's bloody rocket science FFS Protesters chanting: Shame on you, Shane on you..... Police used batons against protesters, leaving some with visible injuries. Protesters than marched to Hyde Park where more clashes followed. Protesters than chanting:Freedom, Freedom, Freedom Yes police were out of order AGAIN.. This protest was given the full go ahead from Westminster city... Beggars belief WHY WHY we are in the middle of a pandemic. Thay should spray them all with acid. " No get them to drink disinfectant. After all MR TRUMP said its fine to drink it . There's always going to be idiots and we have those selfish gits to thank for us all losing our freedom. Its simple. Masks. Distance. No mass gatherings. Thats not rocket science. | |||
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"Something that I find fascinating about all this argument, is that over the millennia, people - peasants mostly, people like me and you. We struggled and we toiled and we suffered and we occasionally rose up. And yet, after all that.. we still seem to want the boot on our neck. I honestly cant understand it. " Maybe because we're all secretly a little kinky. | |||
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"Clashes erupted in Central London as Police tried to break up an anti-locked down protest. Police said the Crowd were asked to leave because they had not complied with social distanceing as we all understand, it's bloody rocket science FFS Protesters chanting: Shame on you, Shane on you..... Police used batons against protesters, leaving some with visible injuries. Protesters than marched to Hyde Park where more clashes followed. Protesters than chanting:Freedom, Freedom, Freedom Yes police were out of order AGAIN.. This protest was given the full go ahead from Westminster city... Beggars belief WHY WHY we are in the middle of a pandemic. Thay should spray them all with acid. No get them to drink disinfectant. After all MR TRUMP said its fine to drink it . There's always going to be idiots and we have those selfish gits to thank for us all losing our freedom. Its simple. Masks. Distance. No mass gatherings. Thats not rocket science. " The demo was nothing to do with lockdown | |||
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"This is shit why protest about lockdown if the idiots dont and wont social distance thats why there in lockdown common sense just idiots who wanna cause yrouble Or maybe they believe that in a democracy they have the right to be heard? Historically, protest has been a huge catalyst for change. Look at the civil rights movement or the suffragettes for instance...would you label them as idiots who just wanted to cause trouble? Like brexit, the issue of covid19 is deeply divisive...and the powers that be are sitting back and rubbing their hands as they obtain more power and control over the masses. It’s all a bit too ‘Orwellian’ for my liking...1984 but 36 years later than envisaged. The effects of covid are beginning to be understood and acted upon, but I bet when (if) a vaccine is found, they will still be glacially slow to restore tho ha the way they were...think along the lines of petrol stations that put the price of petrol up as quick as a flash yet take days and weeks to put it down, and apply that rationale to a governmental context. So you think if there hadn't been a virus we'd have had a random lockdown imposed on us? " Of course not. Even the tories aren’t dumb enough to try and pull something like that off. Covid appears to have played nicely into their hands though. Politicians are all about feathering their own nests...remember the expenses scandal? The sound of reversing beeps from Westminster was deafening. Any excuse to impose their will upon the masses and they’ll grab it and wring it for all it’s worth. And maybe that’s what people are scared that’s happening, and maybe that’s how people see it, and maybe that’s why they protested. After all, we all see things differently. Or maybe they are just idiots looking for trouble? Whatever the case, the right to peacefully protest our case should never ever be taken from us, and we should be free to exercise that right without fear of reproach or reprisal...even if we have to wear a face masks and maintain social distancing. | |||
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"This is shit why protest about lockdown if the idiots dont and wont social distance thats why there in lockdown common sense just idiots who wanna cause yrouble Or maybe they believe that in a democracy they have the right to be heard? Historically, protest has been a huge catalyst for change. Look at the civil rights movement or the suffragettes for instance...would you label them as idiots who just wanted to cause trouble? Like brexit, the issue of covid19 is deeply divisive...and the powers that be are sitting back and rubbing their hands as they obtain more power and control over the masses. It’s all a bit too ‘Orwellian’ for my liking...1984 but 36 years later than envisaged. The effects of covid are beginning to be understood and acted upon, but I bet when (if) a vaccine is found, they will still be glacially slow to restore tho ha the way they were...think along the lines of petrol stations that put the price of petrol up as quick as a flash yet take days and weeks to put it down, and apply that rationale to a governmental context. So you think if there hadn't been a virus we'd have had a random lockdown imposed on us? Of course not. Even the tories aren’t dumb enough to try and pull something like that off. Covid appears to have played nicely into their hands though. Politicians are all about feathering their own nests...remember the expenses scandal? The sound of reversing beeps from Westminster was deafening. Any excuse to impose their will upon the masses and they’ll grab it and wring it for all it’s worth. And maybe that’s what people are scared that’s happening, and maybe that’s how people see it, and maybe that’s why they protested. After all, we all see things differently. Or maybe they are just idiots looking for trouble? Whatever the case, the right to peacefully protest our case should never ever be taken from us, and we should be free to exercise that right without fear of reproach or reprisal...even if we have to wear a face masks and maintain social distancing." | |||
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"Bottom line is if you want to protest and agree to the rules set,don't break them! I found it sad that as one of the policeman was led away bandaged up,protesters were laughing at him. " That is a bit like telling anti racism protesters that they can protest so long as they segregate the different races into separate groups. | |||
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"Clashes erupted in Central London as Police tried to break up an anti-locked down protest. Police said the Crowd were asked to leave because they had not complied with social distanceing as we all understand, it's bloody rocket science FFS Protesters chanting: Shame on you, Shane on you..... Police used batons against protesters, leaving some with visible injuries. Protesters than marched to Hyde Park where more clashes followed. Protesters than chanting:Freedom, Freedom, Freedom Yes police were out of order AGAIN.. This protest was given the full go ahead from Westminster city... Beggars belief WHY WHY we are in the middle of a pandemic. Thay should spray them all with acid. No get them to drink disinfectant. After all MR TRUMP said its fine to drink it . There's always going to be idiots and we have those selfish gits to thank for us all losing our freedom. Its simple. Masks. Distance. No mass gatherings. Thats not rocket science. The demo was nothing to do with lockdown " Never said it was. Its a,gathering. No masks. No distance. So chance of infection on mass | |||
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"For me personally, although I have no respect for our current government,I do have respect for other people and if that means I wear a mask when I go to the shop or I don't meet up with people, or I stay home rather than go to the pub,so I avoid catching and potentially spreading a virus that has the potential to kill me or my family ,no matter how small the risk, I'm happy to do it. I don't feel that my freedom has been taken or that I'm being forced into anything, I'm happy to follow those rules in the hope that doing my bit makes a difference." I would genuinely love to be in this place right now. Peace and love to you, lady x | |||
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"This is shit why protest about lockdown if the idiots dont and wont social distance thats why there in lockdown common sense just idiots who wanna cause yrouble Or maybe they believe that in a democracy they have the right to be heard? Historically, protest has been a huge catalyst for change. Look at the civil rights movement or the suffragettes for instance...would you label them as idiots who just wanted to cause trouble? Like brexit, the issue of covid19 is deeply divisive...and the powers that be are sitting back and rubbing their hands as they obtain more power and control over the masses. It’s all a bit too ‘Orwellian’ for my liking...1984 but 36 years later than envisaged. The effects of covid are beginning to be understood and acted upon, but I bet when (if) a vaccine is found, they will still be glacially slow to restore tho ha the way they were...think along the lines of petrol stations that put the price of petrol up as quick as a flash yet take days and weeks to put it down, and apply that rationale to a governmental context. So you think if there hadn't been a virus we'd have had a random lockdown imposed on us? Of course not. Even the tories aren’t dumb enough to try and pull something like that off. Covid appears to have played nicely into their hands though. Politicians are all about feathering their own nests...remember the expenses scandal? The sound of reversing beeps from Westminster was deafening. Any excuse to impose their will upon the masses and they’ll grab it and wring it for all it’s worth. And maybe that’s what people are scared that’s happening, and maybe that’s how people see it, and maybe that’s why they protested. After all, we all see things differently. Or maybe they are just idiots looking for trouble? Whatever the case, the right to peacefully protest our case should never ever be taken from us, and we should be free to exercise that right without fear of reproach or reprisal...even if we have to wear a face masks and maintain social distancing." 1) I genuinely don't give a shit about people protesting. If this is how they want to spend their time that's up to them. But they weren't social distancing or wearing masks, from what I can see in the pics on the BBC NEWS article about this. 2) You mention the Suffragettes and civil rights movements protested for their (honourable) causes. Yeah okay but let's not also forget those who protested seat belts, drink driving limits, EDL etc. Protesting does not instantly make one a revolutionary. 3) WHAT exactly is this will the government is trying to impose??? I'm sorry to break it to you but as long as you're not doing anything illegal no one gives a shit, except maybe marketing and data companies. As much as I don't like old BoJo I really don't think his main priority when coming into power was to skullfuck the economy and kill all the OAPs off. | |||
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"Bottom line is if you want to protest and agree to the rules set,don't break them! I found it sad that as one of the policeman was led away bandaged up,protesters were laughing at him. That is a bit like telling anti racism protesters that they can protest so long as they segregate the different races into separate groups. " Okay but the rules were to wear masks and social distance so it's nothing like that. | |||
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"This is shit why protest about lockdown if the idiots dont and wont social distance thats why there in lockdown common sense just idiots who wanna cause yrouble Or maybe they believe that in a democracy they have the right to be heard? Historically, protest has been a huge catalyst for change. Look at the civil rights movement or the suffragettes for instance...would you label them as idiots who just wanted to cause trouble? Like brexit, the issue of covid19 is deeply divisive...and the powers that be are sitting back and rubbing their hands as they obtain more power and control over the masses. It’s all a bit too ‘Orwellian’ for my liking...1984 but 36 years later than envisaged. The effects of covid are beginning to be understood and acted upon, but I bet when (if) a vaccine is found, they will still be glacially slow to restore tho ha the way they were...think along the lines of petrol stations that put the price of petrol up as quick as a flash yet take days and weeks to put it down, and apply that rationale to a governmental context. So you think if there hadn't been a virus we'd have had a random lockdown imposed on us? Of course not. Even the tories aren’t dumb enough to try and pull something like that off. Covid appears to have played nicely into their hands though. Politicians are all about feathering their own nests...remember the expenses scandal? The sound of reversing beeps from Westminster was deafening. Any excuse to impose their will upon the masses and they’ll grab it and wring it for all it’s worth. And maybe that’s what people are scared that’s happening, and maybe that’s how people see it, and maybe that’s why they protested. After all, we all see things differently. Or maybe they are just idiots looking for trouble? Whatever the case, the right to peacefully protest our case should never ever be taken from us, and we should be free to exercise that right without fear of reproach or reprisal...even if we have to wear a face masks and maintain social distancing. 1) I genuinely don't give a shit about people protesting. If this is how they want to spend their time that's up to them. But they weren't social distancing or wearing masks, from what I can see in the pics on the BBC NEWS article about this. 2) You mention the Suffragettes and civil rights movements protested for their (honourable) causes. Yeah okay but let's not also forget those who protested seat belts, drink driving limits, EDL etc. Protesting does not instantly make one a revolutionary. 3) WHAT exactly is this will the government is trying to impose??? I'm sorry to break it to you but as long as you're not doing anything illegal no one gives a shit, except maybe marketing and data companies. As much as I don't like old BoJo I really don't think his main priority when coming into power was to skullfuck the economy and kill all the OAPs off. " Tbf there is a bit of a difference between drink driving and women denied the opportunity to vote. | |||
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"For me personally, although I have no respect for our current government,I do have respect for other people and if that means I wear a mask when I go to the shop or I don't meet up with people, or I stay home rather than go to the pub,so I avoid catching and potentially spreading a virus that has the potential to kill me or my family ,no matter how small the risk, I'm happy to do it. I don't feel that my freedom has been taken or that I'm being forced into anything, I'm happy to follow those rules in the hope that doing my bit makes a difference." Totally agree, and that’s how I see things. I’ll happily wear a mask and stay home if it helps contain the virus. However...telling me I can only have six members of my family at my house at any one time yet I’m ok to get onto a packed commuter train with hundreds of other people, and work in an environment with 50 other people in close proximity is something that I see as a massive infringement upon my freedom, and just shows that this government is putting the needs of the economy above the well being of its citizens. Correct me if I am wrong, but surely the first rule of government is to protect its citizens first and foremost? | |||
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" 3) WHAT exactly is this will the government is trying to impose??? I'm sorry to break it to you but as long as you're not doing anything illegal no one gives a shit, except maybe marketing and data companies. As much as I don't like old BoJo I really don't think his main priority when coming into power was to skullfuck the economy and kill all the OAPs off. " The majority of people aren't conspiracy theorists nor do they believe that the government is removing human rights and liberties as part of some grand master plan. Most people just want to exercise their democratic right to question whether decimating the economy, restricting freedoms and changing our way of life wholesale is really the best course of action in the long term. Sadly it appears that the protests today got out of hand and turned ugly and people got injured, in much the same way that the BLM ones did a few months ago. | |||
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" 3) WHAT exactly is this will the government is trying to impose??? I'm sorry to break it to you but as long as you're not doing anything illegal no one gives a shit, except maybe marketing and data companies. As much as I don't like old BoJo I really don't think his main priority when coming into power was to skullfuck the economy and kill all the OAPs off. The majority of people aren't conspiracy theorists nor do they believe that the government is removing human rights and liberties as part of some grand master plan. Most people just want to exercise their democratic right to question whether decimating the economy, restricting freedoms and changing our way of life wholesale is really the best course of action in the long term. Sadly it appears that the protests today got out of hand and turned ugly and people got injured, in much the same way that the BLM ones did a few months ago." And the far right ones. | |||
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" 3) WHAT exactly is this will the government is trying to impose??? I'm sorry to break it to you but as long as you're not doing anything illegal no one gives a shit, except maybe marketing and data companies. As much as I don't like old BoJo I really don't think his main priority when coming into power was to skullfuck the economy and kill all the OAPs off. The majority of people aren't conspiracy theorists nor do they believe that the government is removing human rights and liberties as part of some grand master plan. Most people just want to exercise their democratic right to question whether decimating the economy, restricting freedoms and changing our way of life wholesale is really the best course of action in the long term. Sadly it appears that the protests today got out of hand and turned ugly and people got injured, in much the same way that the BLM ones did a few months ago." And once again the police came in very heavy handed and wanting and instigating violence... | |||
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"For me personally, although I have no respect for our current government,I do have respect for other people and if that means I wear a mask when I go to the shop or I don't meet up with people, or I stay home rather than go to the pub,so I avoid catching and potentially spreading a virus that has the potential to kill me or my family ,no matter how small the risk, I'm happy to do it. I don't feel that my freedom has been taken or that I'm being forced into anything, I'm happy to follow those rules in the hope that doing my bit makes a difference. Totally agree, and that’s how I see things. I’ll happily wear a mask and stay home if it helps contain the virus. However...telling me I can only have six members of my family at my house at any one time yet I’m ok to get onto a packed commuter train with hundreds of other people, and work in an environment with 50 other people in close proximity is something that I see as a massive infringement upon my freedom, and just shows that this government is putting the needs of the economy above the well being of its citizens. Correct me if I am wrong, but surely the first rule of government is to protect its citizens first and foremost?" Given the amount of money that specific politicians have invested in very specific companies... do you genuinely think that those politicians have the best interest of the hoi polloi at heart? Outside of financial gain? Really? In your heart of hearts - really? | |||
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" 3) WHAT exactly is this will the government is trying to impose??? I'm sorry to break it to you but as long as you're not doing anything illegal no one gives a shit, except maybe marketing and data companies. As much as I don't like old BoJo I really don't think his main priority when coming into power was to skullfuck the economy and kill all the OAPs off. The majority of people aren't conspiracy theorists nor do they believe that the government is removing human rights and liberties as part of some grand master plan. Most people just want to exercise their democratic right to question whether decimating the economy, restricting freedoms and changing our way of life wholesale is really the best course of action in the long term. Sadly it appears that the protests today got out of hand and turned ugly and people got injured, in much the same way that the BLM ones did a few months ago. And once again the police came in very heavy handed and wanting and instigating violence... " Disgusting | |||
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" 3) WHAT exactly is this will the government is trying to impose??? I'm sorry to break it to you but as long as you're not doing anything illegal no one gives a shit, except maybe marketing and data companies. As much as I don't like old BoJo I really don't think his main priority when coming into power was to skullfuck the economy and kill all the OAPs off. The majority of people aren't conspiracy theorists nor do they believe that the government is removing human rights and liberties as part of some grand master plan. Most people just want to exercise their democratic right to question whether decimating the economy, restricting freedoms and changing our way of life wholesale is really the best course of action in the long term. Sadly it appears that the protests today got out of hand and turned ugly and people got injured, in much the same way that the BLM ones did a few months ago. And the far right ones." Those too. I think a lot of protests (XR, Class War etc) get jumped on by people seeking to cause trouble | |||
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" 3) WHAT exactly is this will the government is trying to impose??? I'm sorry to break it to you but as long as you're not doing anything illegal no one gives a shit, except maybe marketing and data companies. As much as I don't like old BoJo I really don't think his main priority when coming into power was to skullfuck the economy and kill all the OAPs off. The majority of people aren't conspiracy theorists nor do they believe that the government is removing human rights and liberties as part of some grand master plan. Most people just want to exercise their democratic right to question whether decimating the economy, restricting freedoms and changing our way of life wholesale is really the best course of action in the long term. Sadly it appears that the protests today got out of hand and turned ugly and people got injured, in much the same way that the BLM ones did a few months ago. And the far right ones. Those too. I think a lot of protests (XR, Class War etc) get jumped on by people seeking to cause trouble " Well, that is true, to be fair - at the first antilockdown protest there was a group of "save the children" protesters from the previous weekend | |||
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" Perhaps you could recommend a history book telling of the time that a government took away all a peoples' rights and then gave them back? Prohibition. Rationing. Abolition of slavery. Just off the top of my head, y'know. " Catholic Emancipation Repeal of Rationing (right to buy as much food as you wish) This line has been doing the social media rounds all day, it's not original, it's not clever & it's not truthful. | |||
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"For me personally, although I have no respect for our current government,I do have respect for other people and if that means I wear a mask when I go to the shop or I don't meet up with people, or I stay home rather than go to the pub,so I avoid catching and potentially spreading a virus that has the potential to kill me or my family ,no matter how small the risk, I'm happy to do it. I don't feel that my freedom has been taken or that I'm being forced into anything, I'm happy to follow those rules in the hope that doing my bit makes a difference. Totally agree, and that’s how I see things. I’ll happily wear a mask and stay home if it helps contain the virus. However...telling me I can only have six members of my family at my house at any one time yet I’m ok to get onto a packed commuter train with hundreds of other people, and work in an environment with 50 other people in close proximity is something that I see as a massive infringement upon my freedom, and just shows that this government is putting the needs of the economy above the well being of its citizens. Correct me if I am wrong, but surely the first rule of government is to protect its citizens first and foremost? Given the amount of money that specific politicians have invested in very specific companies... do you genuinely think that those politicians have the best interest of the hoi polloi at heart? Outside of financial gain? Really? In your heart of hearts - really?" Sajid Javid and JP Morgan spring to mind. It’s all about the economy. Anyone who thinks that capitalism and money aren’t tools of modern enslavement needs to look a bit deeper at things. The response to this pandemic will be financially driven, and guess who will have to make up the shortfall? Us taxpayers. In 2008, we bailed the banks out and suffered over a decade of austerity to pay for it. Yet the banks control the flow of money, and since then have made healthy profits, sometimes into the billions. They should repay the favour and bail us out now, but I guarantee they won’t. Expect more austerity for years to come, and enjoy reading the Sunday times rich list and seeing the wealthy get wealthier. Money. Profit. The economy. Gain. All far more important than you and I. More power to the protesters (but please remember your masks and the 2 metre rule in future). | |||
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"For me personally, although I have no respect for our current government,I do have respect for other people and if that means I wear a mask when I go to the shop or I don't meet up with people, or I stay home rather than go to the pub,so I avoid catching and potentially spreading a virus that has the potential to kill me or my family ,no matter how small the risk, I'm happy to do it. I don't feel that my freedom has been taken or that I'm being forced into anything, I'm happy to follow those rules in the hope that doing my bit makes a difference. Totally agree, and that’s how I see things. I’ll happily wear a mask and stay home if it helps contain the virus. However...telling me I can only have six members of my family at my house at any one time yet I’m ok to get onto a packed commuter train with hundreds of other people, and work in an environment with 50 other people in close proximity is something that I see as a massive infringement upon my freedom, and just shows that this government is putting the needs of the economy above the well being of its citizens. Correct me if I am wrong, but surely the first rule of government is to protect its citizens first and foremost? Given the amount of money that specific politicians have invested in very specific companies... do you genuinely think that those politicians have the best interest of the hoi polloi at heart? Outside of financial gain? Really? In your heart of hearts - really? Sajid Javid and JP Morgan spring to mind. It’s all about the economy. Anyone who thinks that capitalism and money aren’t tools of modern enslavement needs to look a bit deeper at things. The response to this pandemic will be financially driven, and guess who will have to make up the shortfall? Us taxpayers. In 2008, we bailed the banks out and suffered over a decade of austerity to pay for it. Yet the banks control the flow of money, and since then have made healthy profits, sometimes into the billions. They should repay the favour and bail us out now, but I guarantee they won’t. Expect more austerity for years to come, and enjoy reading the Sunday times rich list and seeing the wealthy get wealthier. Money. Profit. The economy. Gain. All far more important than you and I. More power to the protesters (but please remember your masks and the 2 metre rule in future)." Nail. Head Etc | |||
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" Perhaps you could recommend a history book telling of the time that a government took away all a peoples' rights and then gave them back? Prohibition. Rationing. Abolition of slavery. Just off the top of my head, y'know. Catholic Emancipation Repeal of Rationing (right to buy as much food as you wish) This line has been doing the social media rounds all day, it's not original, it's not clever & it's not truthful." Tbf neither are a lot of the protesters (ba-dum-pshhh) | |||
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"For me personally, although I have no respect for our current government,I do have respect for other people and if that means I wear a mask when I go to the shop or I don't meet up with people, or I stay home rather than go to the pub,so I avoid catching and potentially spreading a virus that has the potential to kill me or my family ,no matter how small the risk, I'm happy to do it. I don't feel that my freedom has been taken or that I'm being forced into anything, I'm happy to follow those rules in the hope that doing my bit makes a difference. Totally agree, and that’s how I see things. I’ll happily wear a mask and stay home if it helps contain the virus. However...telling me I can only have six members of my family at my house at any one time yet I’m ok to get onto a packed commuter train with hundreds of other people, and work in an environment with 50 other people in close proximity is something that I see as a massive infringement upon my freedom, and just shows that this government is putting the needs of the economy above the well being of its citizens. Correct me if I am wrong, but surely the first rule of government is to protect its citizens first and foremost? Given the amount of money that specific politicians have invested in very specific companies... do you genuinely think that those politicians have the best interest of the hoi polloi at heart? Outside of financial gain? Really? In your heart of hearts - really? Sajid Javid and JP Morgan spring to mind. It’s all about the economy. Anyone who thinks that capitalism and money aren’t tools of modern enslavement needs to look a bit deeper at things. The response to this pandemic will be financially driven, and guess who will have to make up the shortfall? Us taxpayers. In 2008, we bailed the banks out and suffered over a decade of austerity to pay for it. Yet the banks control the flow of money, and since then have made healthy profits, sometimes into the billions. They should repay the favour and bail us out now, but I guarantee they won’t. Expect more austerity for years to come, and enjoy reading the Sunday times rich list and seeing the wealthy get wealthier. Money. Profit. The economy. Gain. All far more important than you and I. More power to the protesters (but please remember your masks and the 2 metre rule in future)." | |||
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"If the police come tooled up for dolly Johnson the sheep and his incompetent cronies, then the British public should come tooled up too and let the government know who pays the incompetent prime dickhead of a minister and his incompetent cocksucking cronies wages who's in charge, if the bullying cowards of the police attack the public then the public should attack back without hesitation full stop! " It will come to that!! | |||
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"It will be interesting to see whether XR and BLM protests are broken up with the same sense of enthusiasm." This | |||
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"If the police come tooled up for dolly Johnson the sheep and his incompetent cronies, then the British public should come tooled up too and let the government know who pays the incompetent prime dickhead of a minister and his incompetent cocksucking cronies wages who's in charge, if the bullying cowards of the police attack the public then the public should attack back without hesitation full stop! " The public just gave them a 80 seat majority | |||
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"If the police come tooled up for dolly Johnson the sheep and his incompetent cronies, then the British public should come tooled up too and let the government know who pays the incompetent prime dickhead of a minister and his incompetent cocksucking cronies wages who's in charge, if the bullying cowards of the police attack the public then the public should attack back without hesitation full stop! It will come to that!! " Not if the "public" all gets covid | |||
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"If the police come tooled up for dolly Johnson the sheep and his incompetent cronies, then the British public should come tooled up too and let the government know who pays the incompetent prime dickhead of a minister and his incompetent cocksucking cronies wages who's in charge, if the bullying cowards of the police attack the public then the public should attack back without hesitation full stop! It will come to that!! Not if the "public" all gets covid " Seriously!!! You've given me a chuckle hernia saying that | |||
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"If the police come tooled up for dolly Johnson the sheep and his incompetent cronies, then the British public should come tooled up too and let the government know who pays the incompetent prime dickhead of a minister and his incompetent cocksucking cronies wages who's in charge, if the bullying cowards of the police attack the public then the public should attack back without hesitation full stop! It will come to that!! Not if the "public" all gets covid Seriously!!! You've given me a chuckle hernia saying that " | |||
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"Clashes erupted in Central London as Police tried to break up an anti-locked down protest. Police said the Crowd were asked to leave because they had not complied with social distanceing as we all understand, it's bloody rocket science FFS Protesters chanting: Shame on you, Shane on you..... Police used batons against protesters, leaving some with visible injuries. Protesters than marched to Hyde Park where more clashes followed. Protesters than chanting:Freedom, Freedom, Freedom Yes police were out of order AGAIN.. This protest was given the full go ahead from Westminster city... Beggars belief WHY WHY we are in the middle of a pandemic. Thay should spray them all with acid. " Spray them by all means, but with water cannons. | |||
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"Clashes erupted in Central London as Police tried to break up an anti-locked down protest. Police said the Crowd were asked to leave because they had not complied with social distanceing as we all understand, it's bloody rocket science FFS Protesters chanting: Shame on you, Shane on you..... Police used batons against protesters, leaving some with visible injuries. Protesters than marched to Hyde Park where more clashes followed. Protesters than chanting:Freedom, Freedom, Freedom Yes police were out of order AGAIN.. This protest was given the full go ahead from Westminster city... Beggars belief WHY WHY we are in the middle of a pandemic. Thay should spray them all with acid. Spray them by all means, but with water cannons." Why? | |||
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"Protesting a lockdown and not wearing masks during a killer worldwide pandemic is idiotic at best. These protests shouldn't be allowed in any country until we have a viable vaccine to seriously control the spread and effects of the virus. The only reason everyone is in the mess we are in, is because of idiotic leadership at the beginning, and they continue to make idiotic decisions on a daily basis. The deaths we've had so far from idiotic leadership is a historic catastrophe, specially in this modern age of global communication. This failed leadership should be handled in a court of law as crimes against humanity. The leadership knew what had to be done to protect the people, they just refused to do it because of money and politics. So, they just let hundreds of thousands of people die, so far, just to satisfy their own greed and positions of power. If that's not a crime against humanity, we shouldn't even have that law on the books ! " 100s of thousands really ? | |||
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"Arrest and fine to the max as many as possible if any xr all the better" For what? We have a legal right of freedom of speech, and the legal right to assembly in this country. | |||
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"Clashes erupted in Central London as Police tried to break up an anti-locked down protest. Police said the Crowd were asked to leave because they had not complied with social distanceing as we all understand, it's bloody rocket science FFS Protesters chanting: Shame on you, Shane on you..... Police used batons against protesters, leaving some with visible injuries. Protesters than marched to Hyde Park where more clashes followed. Protesters than chanting:Freedom, Freedom, Freedom Yes police were out of order AGAIN.. This protest was given the full go ahead from Westminster city... Beggars belief WHY WHY we are in the middle of a pandemic. Thay should spray them all with acid. Spray them by all means, but with water cannons. Why?" Too much paperwork involved if they use acid | |||
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"Arrest and fine to the max as many as possible if any xr all the better For what? We have a legal right of freedom of speech, and the legal right to assembly in this country. " I should have been clearer. Any not social distancing or breaking any other rules agreed to hold the demonstration in the first place | |||
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"From what I saw on the videos the group involved with the police weren't social distancing and were pretty out of order. " well you cant really social distance when the police kettle you they just squeeze you into a smaller and smaller area.know this from attending a few may day protests in the late 90s.and the tsg dont need an excuse to start twatting people round the head with a baton | |||
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"From what I saw on the videos the group involved with the police weren't social distancing and were pretty out of order. well you cant really social distance when the police kettle you they just squeeze you into a smaller and smaller area.know this from attending a few may day protests in the late 90s.and the tsg dont need an excuse to start twatting people round the head with a baton" | |||
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"For me personally, although I have no respect for our current government,I do have respect for other people and if that means I wear a mask when I go to the shop or I don't meet up with people, or I stay home rather than go to the pub,so I avoid catching and potentially spreading a virus that has the potential to kill me or my family ,no matter how small the risk, I'm happy to do it. I don't feel that my freedom has been taken or that I'm being forced into anything, I'm happy to follow those rules in the hope that doing my bit makes a difference. Totally agree, and that’s how I see things. I’ll happily wear a mask and stay home if it helps contain the virus. However...telling me I can only have six members of my family at my house at any one time yet I’m ok to get onto a packed commuter train with hundreds of other people, and work in an environment with 50 other people in close proximity is something that I see as a massive infringement upon my freedom, and just shows that this government is putting the needs of the economy above the well being of its citizens. Correct me if I am wrong, but surely the first rule of government is to protect its citizens first and foremost?" Do you not think saving the economy is part of protecting it's citizens, Jobs, Hospitals, Etc,Etc | |||
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"'The Government want to Control Us Like the Hunger Games'. hahahaha - hahahaha So wish I was there now. And they say Live Comedy is dead during the Pandemic. Right?! Baffles me that so many people don't understand the government is literally trying to PROTECT our freedom the more effort everyone can make at once = the quicker we can get back to some sort of normality and "freedom". Also makes me laugh that these same people complaining about "freedom" are probably giving their data to every single website/app they use, every card purchase they make, every phone call etc etc. Honestly wearing masks and staying home is not that much of a stretch " | |||
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"It would be interesting to know the takeup level of the app amongst them" Read the scan thread it's funny some just posted down loaded the app and scans in to pubs but Bluetooth is off. | |||
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"Honestly, if these are truly protests against government overreach, restriction of civil liberties and unjustifiable, unnecessary and arbitrary restrictions on daily life then the organizers need to learn a lesson. If you give conspiracy theorists and similar easily discredited individuals to have a headline role your protest will be dismissed and nothing but a bunch of nuts making a lot of noise. Get rid of the loons. Put some real scientists, business leaders and even ordinary people at the front and watch the difference. Police baton-charging a protest being addressed by a scientist or better yet a well-respected businessman would make the sort of headlines guaranteed to make any government extremely uncomfortable. Police baton-charging a protest being addressed by Icke or a similar loon, that's just playing into their hands. Time the protestors started playing to win." I imagine the reason they don't have well respected businessmen and scientists addressing the protests is because none will be seen dead anywhere near them. Also, the reason they invite the loons to speak at them is because that's who a lot of the protesters turn up to see. | |||
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" Yes police were out of order AGAIN.. This protest was given the full go ahead from Westminster city... " permission was revoked when the protesters and organisers refused to comply with the conditions set out........ | |||
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"Conveniently for the government, if more than six people get together police can charge in batons raised. They have us by the short and curries, and they can keep this going as long as they want. The rule of six was obviously brought in to quell the protests Every COVID Legislation we have had has included Our Right to Protest. What has also been clear throughout in the the Legislation is that each Protest is Covid Safe. The Rule of Six doesn't apply. Safe distancing does. From the photos Ive seen from a forum member who attended, I would say social distancing was followed. " that certainly was not the case in trafalgar square...... | |||
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"I imagine the reason they don't have well respected businessmen and scientists addressing the protests is because none will be seen dead anywhere near them. Also, the reason they invite the loons to speak at them is because that's who a lot of the protesters turn up to see." Perhaps if they dropped the loons then they'd find many more credible speakers more than willing to take their place. Likewise, loose the loonies and a lot more normal people who don't want to be tarred with the 'nutter' brush are likely to turn up in their place. There is a serious and growing groundswell of opposition to the restrictions and the seeming lack of accountability within government. These people don't deny covid, don't believe conspiracy theories, aren't generally anti-vaccination or anti-mask and are usually reasonably socially responsible. They're also fed up of watching their livelihoods suffer and their businesses be destroyed, having their liberties restricted and their government treating them like children. Take away the nutters and I'm betting many more ordinary people will take their places. | |||
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