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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

will you still wear a mask, bearing in mind that flue kills more people a year than covid ever has, and lets not forget that masks are single use items, how many reuse them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

How do we define 'after covid'? Would probably be a WHO declared policy statement.

Though I do think that more than a few will begin to follow the Asian model of protection in public and the workplace by wearing a mask when we have such things as colds etc. Maybe companies will demand that staff do so, it's normal across Asia.

I very much support mask wearing now - with all it's difficulties. But I will stop just as soon as I feel it's safe. But wear again were I feel it isn't.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Nope"

do you now? if so why?

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

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I would wear a mask if I were unwell, covid-19 has made me open my eyes to my responsibility for others health, I infected a work mate (not itentionally) in feb with what I thought was a nasty chest cold and I now believe to to be sars-cov-2 (untested) and he was hospitalised for 2 weeks in intensive care, I am so glad he didn't die but I will live with that guilt for a long time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"will you still wear a mask, bearing in mind that flue kills more people a year than covid ever has, and lets not forget that masks are single use items, how many reuse them?

masks are only single use if you are buying them disposable

the market is flooded with washable and reusable masks

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"will you still wear a mask, bearing in mind that flue kills more people a year than covid ever has, and lets not forget that masks are single use items, how many reuse them?

masks are only single use if you are buying them disposable

the market is flooded with washable and reusable masks "

no such thing as a reusable mask, a washing machine doesnt get hot enough to kill the bacteria, the only way is to bin them after one use, not that they make any difference anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"will you still wear a mask, bearing in mind that flue kills more people a year than covid ever has, and lets not forget that masks are single use items, how many reuse them?

masks are only single use if you are buying them disposable

the market is flooded with washable and reusable masks

no such thing as a reusable mask, a washing machine doesnt get hot enough to kill the bacteria, the only way is to bin them after one use, not that they make any difference anyway"

ummm covid is not bacteria

and its been proved already warm water and simple soap breaks down the virus

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"will you still wear a mask, bearing in mind that flue kills more people a year than covid ever has, and lets not forget that masks are single use items, how many reuse them?

masks are only single use if you are buying them disposable

the market is flooded with washable and reusable masks

no such thing as a reusable mask, a washing machine doesnt get hot enough to kill the bacteria, the only way is to bin them after one use, not that they make any difference anyway

ummm covid is not bacteria

and its been proved already warm water and simple soap breaks down the virus "

and anyway its generally accepted that 60 degrees is enough to kill bacteria in wash and most machines go to 90

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I'll always base my behaviour and approach on evidence, which will consistently improve over time. If masks have stronger protective benefits for others or myself, than understood now, I would wear more often in future.

It's been a good learning opportunity

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"will you still wear a mask, bearing in mind that flue kills more people a year than covid ever has, and lets not forget that masks are single use items, how many reuse them?

masks are only single use if you are buying them disposable

the market is flooded with washable and reusable masks

no such thing as a reusable mask, a washing machine doesnt get hot enough to kill the bacteria, the only way is to bin them after one use, not that they make any difference anyway"

It's worth doing a little research. Opportunities exist to inactivate viruses, fungal and bacterial materials in ways that don't mean that all masks must be single use disposable items.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've never wore a muzzle before and never been asked to either

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope

do you now? if so why?"

Yes I do but I hate it with all my heart and soul. They are at best useless and at worst dangerous but it's the law to wear one and I am a law abiding citizen that just doesn't hardly go out anyhwere which is ridiculous because I am in perfect health.

It should be if you choose to wear a mask for your protection wear one, but if I choose to wash my hands more often and stay away from large crowds and stuffy rooms that should be my choice.

However I can see us becoming more and more at the behest of the OCD minority and Stasi society that they are trying to make us become.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I actually might do.

I don't mind wearing one at all. I bought good quality, expensive ones and I don't feel impeded by them in any way.

Plus I hate lots of smells and aromas, and I've noticed I am nowhere near as bothered by them since I've been wearing a mask out.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

I'm going to wear one all the time just to annoy the people who whine about being 'muzzled' or that being asked to take basic public health precautions is like 'the stasi'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm going to wear one all the time just to annoy the people who whine about being 'muzzled' or that being asked to take basic public health precautions is like 'the stasi'.

You wont annoy me. Just let you get on with it.

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford

After Covid ... you mean there is going to be life after Covid ?

It will be years before the government relaxes the stupid rules, get used to masks they are around for a long time.

As for the track and trace App, once you have that on your phone it will be there forever, and who knows how that will be used.

GCHQ will no doubt already have a door into track and trace and whilst the hype is that this is about Covid ... imagine the uses that it could be put too.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"will you still wear a mask, bearing in mind that flue kills more people a year than covid ever has, and lets not forget that masks are single use items, how many reuse them?

masks are only single use if you are buying them disposable

the market is flooded with washable and reusable masks

no such thing as a reusable mask, a washing machine doesnt get hot enough to kill the bacteria, the only way is to bin them after one use, not that they make any difference anyway

ummm covid is not bacteria

and its been proved already warm water and simple soap breaks down the virus

and anyway its generally accepted that 60 degrees is enough to kill bacteria in wash and most machines go to 90 "

funny that, ive never seen anyone in a hospital or dentist re use them, they always go in the bin, who would you follow, people who do wear them for a living, ore people on the internet?

if washable ones work, why dont the nhs use them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"will you still wear a mask, bearing in mind that flue kills more people a year than covid ever has, and lets not forget that masks are single use items, how many reuse them?

masks are only single use if you are buying them disposable

the market is flooded with washable and reusable masks

no such thing as a reusable mask, a washing machine doesnt get hot enough to kill the bacteria, the only way is to bin them after one use, not that they make any difference anyway"

Virus. Kills the virus.

A 60 degree wash with standard powder is effective. The virus has a lipid bi-layer - two layers of molecules that have a water loving and a water hating end to them. The water loving end faces outwards in the outer layer and inwards in the inner layer. The outward facing end is “sticky” - great for a virus that wants to travel. However this stickiness is the same as soap in effect - soap is sticky that’s why it removes dirt. So, soap and water the outward facing end sticks to the soap and is removed, leaving the water hating ends exposed and these are then stripped away by the water. The inner virus is then exposed and dies.

Bingo job done.

And now to the “masks don’t make a difference”. They prevent large molecules to which the virus is stuck leaving an infected person or entering your mouth or nose. They do not stop a virus but then a virus doesn’t travel by itself - it’s like you wanting to travel abroad - it needs something to carry it. This is what the mask stops - masks stop spit and mucus and phlegm and shit spraying into your mouth or nose. Wear them. Especially in a communal toilet when you flush - you would be astounded how much crap is made airborne by a flushing toilet. Close the toilet lid.

Oh and don’t use hand driers - the best is to let your hands dry naturally (20 secs of washing kills the virus - letting your hands air dry makes damned sure they have had 20 seconds of wet)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

China.. Wear masks all the time.

Pollution... They wear them for that alone.

Did I wear one just now. Sure I was in a shop might have gotten bird flu. Was a pet shop...

I had flu bad once. I've survived.

I had a chest infection caught from working with elderly people who had illnesses. I've survived.

I suffer hay fever.

Same symptoms

No to wearing mask after covid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"will you still wear a mask, bearing in mind that flue kills more people a year than covid ever has, and lets not forget that masks are single use items, how many reuse them?

masks are only single use if you are buying them disposable

the market is flooded with washable and reusable masks

no such thing as a reusable mask, a washing machine doesnt get hot enough to kill the bacteria, the only way is to bin them after one use, not that they make any difference anyway

ummm covid is not bacteria

and its been proved already warm water and simple soap breaks down the virus

and anyway its generally accepted that 60 degrees is enough to kill bacteria in wash and most machines go to 90

funny that, ive never seen anyone in a hospital or dentist re use them, they always go in the bin, who would you follow, people who do wear them for a living, ore people on the internet?

if washable ones work, why dont the nhs use them?"

Washable ones can work - all they are is a barrier to large particles of spit and stuff - the issue more often than not is the fit. They are not as close fitting as disposable. In addition, to stop micro particles you need something better than cloth. A dentist or a skin piercing procedure such as giving an injection will release nano particles - tiny bits of stuff to which the virus sticks. This is what has to be stopped, which is why in many clinical procedures ffp2 or ffp3 masks are used (they catch smaller bits) to be totally sure you aren’t breathing in a molecule with a virus on it you go fill gas tight suit with air supply - think Ebola coverage and the videos of people in big green suits. Expensive cumbersome and impractical for many things - but highly effective.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"will you still wear a mask, bearing in mind that flue kills more people a year than covid ever has, and lets not forget that masks are single use items, how many reuse them?

masks are only single use if you are buying them disposable

the market is flooded with washable and reusable masks

no such thing as a reusable mask, a washing machine doesnt get hot enough to kill the bacteria, the only way is to bin them after one use, not that they make any difference anyway

ummm covid is not bacteria

and its been proved already warm water and simple soap breaks down the virus

and anyway its generally accepted that 60 degrees is enough to kill bacteria in wash and most machines go to 90

funny that, ive never seen anyone in a hospital or dentist re use them, they always go in the bin, who would you follow, people who do wear them for a living, ore people on the internet?

if washable ones work, why dont the nhs use them?"

you might aswel have compared a nurses sterile glove use to the rubber gloves beside the kitchen sink... its clear for everyone that the level of hygiene required in a hospital setting is much higher than a personal setting

the nhs staff are much more in your personal space than joe bloggs walking round tesco and therefore need to use a sterile mask to start with and need to change between every patient ... the practicality of ensuring they were washed and stored to facilitate this means the entire cost efficiency of reusable is lost

you might have noticed but when i head out to a supermarket / the pub, i only need one mask per trip, how many do you think a nurse goes through in a shift

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT

"will you still wear a mask, bearing in mind that flue kills more people a year than covid ever has, and lets not forget that masks are single use items, how many reuse them?

masks are only single use if you are buying them disposable

the market is flooded with washable and reusable masks

no such thing as a reusable mask, a washing machine doesnt get hot enough to kill the bacteria, the only way is to bin them after one use, not that they make any difference anyway

ummm covid is not bacteria

and its been proved already warm water and simple soap breaks down the virus

and anyway its generally accepted that 60 degrees is enough to kill bacteria in wash and most machines go to 90

funny that, ive never seen anyone in a hospital or dentist re use them, they always go in the bin, who would you follow, people who do wear them for a living, ore people on the internet?

if washable ones work, why dont the nhs use them?"

I was in hospital last year and the nurses were wearing washable masks not disposable ones.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"After Covid ... you mean there is going to be life after Covid ?

It will be years before the government relaxes the stupid rules, get used to masks they are around for a long time.

As for the track and trace App, once you have that on your phone it will be there forever, and who knows how that will be used.

GCHQ will no doubt already have a door into track and trace and whilst the hype is that this is about Covid ... imagine the uses that it could be put too.

What utter bollocks

You seriously think the security services give a flying fuck about routine communications? You think they have the capacity to monitor the gazillions of mega bytes of stuff?

The app is safe. It shares nothing else than a Bluetooth proximity measure. In about 18 months to 2 years we can all delete it and do you know what? You can check your phone bios and see it has gone and there is no secret back door still working.

Let’s forget the conspiracy theories and live with the reality heh folks? The app is great for telling me I have been within a close enough distance of someone for long enough to have a high risk of contracting Covid. That’s it. I welcome it because if I have been to a pub and someone there has been diagnosed with Covid and I am told about it - I can see from the app whether or not I have to isolate. If I have not been close enough to the person to have risked contracting it - I don’t need to isolate! If I haven’t got the app - then I do. Of course this relies on everyone having the app.

Let’s do it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope

do you now? if so why?

It should be if you choose to wear a mask for your protection wear one, but if I choose to wash my hands more often and stay away from large crowds and stuffy rooms that should be my choice.

However I can see us becoming more and more at the behest of the OCD minority and Stasi society that they are trying to make us become."

They are neither useless nor dangerous. I have worn masks in highly dangerous environments for virtually my entire life - I haven’t fallen ill because of it or despite it. Drop the “masks make you ill” rubbish - if they did the entire medical population would fall over ill all the time - and it doesn’t

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By *om and LisaCouple
over a year ago

gateshead

Some fantastic 'opinions' on here.

To the guy talking sense, who clearly knows his shit. I'm very disappointed that your knowledge just isn't as appealing to some as a frantically over-copied meme.

It's good to see that there is still a pavement of facts, just a shame it's covered in trash.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope but then I maybe wear one once a week to do a shop with gf...rest of time Im out in the wilds working or in home. I ve not socialised in any way since february..prefer the silence and company of the wilderness. Im a strong believer in nature..in her I place my faith and my fate...always have...seems to have paid off upto now. Only been hospital when I was 5 and have never seen a doctor or taken mefs...maybe its because my immunity system is high due to constantly working amongst mud, animal crap and god knows what.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Some fantastic 'opinions' on here.

To the guy talking sense, who clearly knows his shit. I'm very disappointed that your knowledge just isn't as appealing to some as a frantically over-copied meme.

It's good to see that there is still a pavement of facts, just a shame it's covered in trash. "

this is the problem, there are so many opinions that i dont know who to believe anymore, i am in the high risk group, so some simple facts would be good, not all this guesswork

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

"will you still wear a mask, bearing in mind that flue kills more people a year than covid ever has, and lets not forget that masks are single use items, how many reuse them?

Well a flue full of carbon monoxide may kill you but its rare for folk to die from the flu.

Its usually pneumonia that does for them.

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By *iobhan123Woman
over a year ago

Deal

"will you still wear a mask, bearing in mind that flue kills more people a year than covid ever has, and lets not forget that masks are single use items, how many reuse them?

masks are only single use if you are buying them disposable

the market is flooded with washable and reusable masks

no such thing as a reusable mask, a washing machine doesnt get hot enough to kill the bacteria, the only way is to bin them after one use, not that they make any difference anyway"

We have been washing our scrubs on 60 degrees throughout, as per the advice from our Infection control lead, just wash your covering at the same, more than adequate

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

"will you still wear a mask, bearing in mind that flue kills more people a year than covid ever has, and lets not forget that masks are single use items, how many reuse them?

masks are only single use if you are buying them disposable

the market is flooded with washable and reusable masks

no such thing as a reusable mask, a washing machine doesnt get hot enough to kill the bacteria, the only way is to bin them after one use, not that they make any difference anyway"

Except its viruses we are using them for and detergents kill them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some fantastic 'opinions' on here.

To the guy talking sense, who clearly knows his shit. I'm very disappointed that your knowledge just isn't as appealing to some as a frantically over-copied meme.

It's good to see that there is still a pavement of facts, just a shame it's covered in trash.

this is the problem, there are so many opinions that i dont know who to believe anymore, i am in the high risk group, so some simple facts would be good, not all this guesswork"

the irony of this statement is strong

almost all the incorrect guesswork on this thread had come from your posts

- masks can only be single use -wrong

- covid is bacteria - wrong

- washing machines don't get hot enough to kill bacteria - wrong

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By *lan157Man
over a year ago

a village near Haywards Heath in East Sussex

I don't think there will be a covid free environment. It will be around for ever just like flu .

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By *onty1971Man
over a year ago

London St Helier Trier

You can Iron a mask at the high temperature which kills what needs to be killed.

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy

"I don't think there will be a covid free environment. It will be around for ever just like flu . "

I think this too. We'll get to April & it'll be announced restrictions could last a further six months & so on. It'll never end.

Penny will eventually drop with government (maybe another year) that trying to suppress & control the virus is pointless, but, by then it'll be too late. The damage will already be done.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

"I don't think there will be a covid free environment. It will be around for ever just like flu .

I think this too. We'll get to April & it'll be announced restrictions could last a further six months & so on. It'll never end.

Penny will eventually drop with government (maybe another year) that trying to suppress & control the virus is pointless, but, by then it'll be too late. The damage will already be done. "

They know full well that it will be here forever, it's the media and some of the public that are in denial of this very simple fact

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