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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Infected numbers are going up. Restrictions are tightening. There are hints this is the way things will go for months.

But what happens at Christmas? Johnson and his gov. will know they have no chance of telling the country to stay away from friends and family on Christmas Day.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

Why not?

We expected everyone to behave responsibly during Eid.

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By *entleman_spyMan
over a year ago

nearby

The rules stay in place - you have Christmas with up to 6 people. if people break them I hope they get the fines. It’s no different to birthdays or anniversary’s or any other celebration day. And the virus gives not one shit that it’s the winter equinox ...

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Santa will still come for those who believe, albeit wearing PPE..

It will be different and difficult for some of course but there are ways and means of staying in touch on the day and make arrangements to see others during the period?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why not?

We expected everyone to behave responsibly during Eid."

I was about to say this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why not?

We expected everyone to behave responsibly during Eid.

I was about to say this. "

And you’ll probably get the same level of compliance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why not?

We expected everyone to behave responsibly during Eid."

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Not having a go at anyone but fuck me are very fortunate in that we have been born here, not in some countries where such things as the big family binge out are fantasy..

First world problems..

Perspective please..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

If strict rules are in place on Christmas Day, I bet they'll just be roundly ignored by millions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If strict rules are in place on Christmas Day, I bet they'll just be roundly ignored by millions."

I would have thought so, and all those who don’t have a big family will tut loudly.

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By *aintscoupleCouple
over a year ago

st helens


"If strict rules are in place on Christmas Day, I bet they'll just be roundly ignored by millions."
boris will be finished come christmas time

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By *hortarseWoman
over a year ago

Norfolk

We just have to take it in turns to go to church at Christmas.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"Santa will still come for those who believe, albeit wearing PPE..

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Rudolph and co will be wearing visors, so his nose won't be obscured.

Don't forget to leave a bottle of alcohol hand gel out this year, instead of the traditional drop of sherry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Santa will still come for those who believe, albeit wearing PPE..

Rudolph and co will be wearing visors, so his nose won't be obscured.

Don't forget to leave a bottle of alcohol hand gel out this year, instead of the traditional drop of sherry. "

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By *spotpleasurerMan
over a year ago

Norwich

Swinging clubs are closed and you can only think about Christmas?

But seriously, all kinds of social activities and gatherings are curtailed for the foreseeable future. Why should one religious _estival be any different? Think of all the people losing out on their big wedding day or unable to properly mourn a bereavement.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Santa will still come for those who believe, albeit wearing PPE..

Rudolph and co will be wearing visors, so his nose won't be obscured.

Don't forget to leave a bottle of alcohol hand gel out this year, instead of the traditional drop of sherry. "

It used to be a large JD..

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By *entleman_spyMan
over a year ago

nearby


"If strict rules are in place on Christmas Day, I bet they'll just be roundly ignored by millions.

I would have thought so, and all those who don’t have a big family will tut loudly."

I think you misspelt “all tho use that are not selfish twats”

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Swinging clubs are closed and you can only think about Christmas?

But seriously, all kinds of social activities and gatherings are curtailed for the foreseeable future. Why should one religious _estival be any different? Think of all the people losing out on their big wedding day or unable to properly mourn a bereavement. "

I'm not saying Christmas should be treated differently. I'm just saying I reckon many people will do whatever the hell they want on Christmas Day, no matter what the rules are.

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By *ookMan
over a year ago

london

Santa cums obviously ... but he will in a red hazmat suit And will only come to households in the south with less than 5 people... or something like that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Swinging clubs are closed and you can only think about Christmas?

But seriously, all kinds of social activities and gatherings are curtailed for the foreseeable future. Why should one religious _estival be any different? Think of all the people losing out on their big wedding day or unable to properly mourn a bereavement.

I'm not saying Christmas should be treated differently. I'm just saying I reckon many people will do whatever the hell they want on Christmas Day, no matter what the rules are."

A lot of people are anyway.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Swinging clubs are closed and you can only think about Christmas?

But seriously, all kinds of social activities and gatherings are curtailed for the foreseeable future. Why should one religious _estival be any different? Think of all the people losing out on their big wedding day or unable to properly mourn a bereavement.

I'm not saying Christmas should be treated differently. I'm just saying I reckon many people will do whatever the hell they want on Christmas Day, no matter what the rules are.

A lot of people are anyway. "

Christmas has the potential to be much worse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The rules stay in place - you have Christmas with up to 6 people. if people break them I hope they get the fines. It’s no different to birthdays or anniversary’s or any other celebration day. And the virus gives not one shit that it’s the winter equinox ..."
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The equinox is in the name

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Swinging clubs are closed and you can only think about Christmas?

But seriously, all kinds of social activities and gatherings are curtailed for the foreseeable future. Why should one religious _estival be any different? Think of all the people losing out on their big wedding day or unable to properly mourn a bereavement.

I'm not saying Christmas should be treated differently. I'm just saying I reckon many people will do whatever the hell they want on Christmas Day, no matter what the rules are.

A lot of people are anyway. "

This, it's partly why we are where we are now..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Swinging clubs are closed and you can only think about Christmas?

But seriously, all kinds of social activities and gatherings are curtailed for the foreseeable future. Why should one religious _estival be any different? Think of all the people losing out on their big wedding day or unable to properly mourn a bereavement.

I'm not saying Christmas should be treated differently. I'm just saying I reckon many people will do whatever the hell they want on Christmas Day, no matter what the rules are.

A lot of people are anyway.

This, it's partly why we are where we are now.."

I do wonder how many gave up on the rules after the Cummings fiasco. It felt like a turning point.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Swinging clubs are closed and you can only think about Christmas?

But seriously, all kinds of social activities and gatherings are curtailed for the foreseeable future. Why should one religious _estival be any different? Think of all the people losing out on their big wedding day or unable to properly mourn a bereavement.

I'm not saying Christmas should be treated differently. I'm just saying I reckon many people will do whatever the hell they want on Christmas Day, no matter what the rules are.

A lot of people are anyway.

This, it's partly why we are where we are now..

I do wonder how many gave up on the rules after the Cummings fiasco. It felt like a turning point."
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Nobody I know did.

The turning point was the constant changing of rules and allowances that completely cufuddled most to the point they don't really know or can be arsed reading them never mind complying.

Should have stuck to the Swedish strategy, five simple rules that you can just stay with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Swinging clubs are closed and you can only think about Christmas?

But seriously, all kinds of social activities and gatherings are curtailed for the foreseeable future. Why should one religious _estival be any different? Think of all the people losing out on their big wedding day or unable to properly mourn a bereavement.

I'm not saying Christmas should be treated differently. I'm just saying I reckon many people will do whatever the hell they want on Christmas Day, no matter what the rules are.

A lot of people are anyway.

This, it's partly why we are where we are now..

I do wonder how many gave up on the rules after the Cummings fiasco. It felt like a turning point..

Nobody I know did.

The turning point was the constant changing of rules and allowances that completely cufuddled most to the point they don't really know or can be arsed reading them never mind complying.

Should have stuck to the Swedish strategy, five simple rules that you can just stay with."

The Cummings fiasco didn’t change my behaviour either but I can guarantee that it did for thousands of other people

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"Why not?

We expected everyone to behave responsibly during Eid."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Swinging clubs are closed and you can only think about Christmas?

But seriously, all kinds of social activities and gatherings are curtailed for the foreseeable future. Why should one religious _estival be any different? Think of all the people losing out on their big wedding day or unable to properly mourn a bereavement.

I'm not saying Christmas should be treated differently. I'm just saying I reckon many people will do whatever the hell they want on Christmas Day, no matter what the rules are.

A lot of people are anyway.

This, it's partly why we are where we are now..

I do wonder how many gave up on the rules after the Cummings fiasco. It felt like a turning point..

Nobody I know did.

The turning point was the constant changing of rules and allowances that completely cufuddled most to the point they don't really know or can be arsed reading them never mind complying.

Should have stuck to the Swedish strategy, five simple rules that you can just stay with.

The Cummings fiasco didn’t change my behaviour either but I can guarantee that it did for thousands of other people "
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Your a psychic?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Santa will still come for those who believe, albeit wearing PPE..

It will be different and difficult for some of course but there are ways and means of staying in touch on the day and make arrangements to see others during the period?

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But will he ? Will he not be forced to quarantine for 14 days depending on what country he last visited ?

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By *aintscoupleCouple
over a year ago

st helens

I wonder how many ladies are going to be gutted that black santa will not be visiting them this year

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s amazing how quickly people have forgotten that they were out on the streets clapping NHS workers 2 months ago... I wonder if they’ll be as eager to ‘Clap for Heroes’ when they’re mildly inconvenienced at Christmas time?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fingers crossed for a white Christmas this year

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Swinging clubs are closed and you can only think about Christmas?

But seriously, all kinds of social activities and gatherings are curtailed for the foreseeable future. Why should one religious _estival be any different? Think of all the people losing out on their big wedding day or unable to properly mourn a bereavement.

I'm not saying Christmas should be treated differently. I'm just saying I reckon many people will do whatever the hell they want on Christmas Day, no matter what the rules are.

A lot of people are anyway.

This, it's partly why we are where we are now..

I do wonder how many gave up on the rules after the Cummings fiasco. It felt like a turning point..

Nobody I know did.

The turning point was the constant changing of rules and allowances that completely cufuddled most to the point they don't really know or can be arsed reading them never mind complying.

Should have stuck to the Swedish strategy, five simple rules that you can just stay with.

The Cummings fiasco didn’t change my behaviour either but I can guarantee that it did for thousands of other people "
You can guarantee that???

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Santa will still come for those who believe, albeit wearing PPE..

It will be different and difficult for some of course but there are ways and means of staying in touch on the day and make arrangements to see others during the period?

But will he ? Will he not be forced to quarantine for 14 days depending on what country he last visited ? "

Good point, bloody Eck he will be busy..

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By *dsindyTV/TS
over a year ago

East Lancashire

Nah...Santa is magic, does all that time bending shit. Quarantine wont be an issue for him.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Santa will still come for those who believe, albeit wearing PPE..

It will be different and difficult for some of course but there are ways and means of staying in touch on the day and make arrangements to see others during the period?

But will he ? Will he not be forced to quarantine for 14 days depending on what country he last visited ?

Good point, bloody Eck he will be busy.."

Nah, Santa will be fine. He'll say he's quarantining, but he'll just continue as normal.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Santa will still come for those who believe, albeit wearing PPE..

It will be different and difficult for some of course but there are ways and means of staying in touch on the day and make arrangements to see others during the period?

But will he ? Will he not be forced to quarantine for 14 days depending on what country he last visited ?

Good point, bloody Eck he will be busy..

Nah, Santa will be fine. He'll say he's quarantining, but he'll just continue as normal."

Not sure the border force will believe Rudolph's red nose is not down to covid, he could be out..

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By *iddle ManMan
over a year ago

Walsall


"Why not?

We expected everyone to behave responsibly during Eid.

I was about to say this.

And you’ll probably get the same level of compliance."

Did you not see the pictures and read the reports. There wasn't much rule following and you only have to look at the areas that are under tighter restrictions to see what happened there.

Same will happen come Christmas if we're not already there by then

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By *aseMan
over a year ago

Gourock

Fuck Christmas

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Santa will still come for those who believe, albeit wearing PPE..

It will be different and difficult for some of course but there are ways and means of staying in touch on the day and make arrangements to see others during the period?

But will he ? Will he not be forced to quarantine for 14 days depending on what country he last visited ?

Good point, bloody Eck he will be busy..

Nah, Santa will be fine. He'll say he's quarantining, but he'll just continue as normal.

Not sure the border force will believe Rudolph's red nose is not down to covid, he could be out.."

If they try to fuck with Santa, he can just remind 'em he knows where they live and he'll shit down their chimneys.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Fuck Christmas "

Cheers Mr Grinch..

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By *dsindyTV/TS
over a year ago

East Lancashire


"Santa will still come for those who believe, albeit wearing PPE..

It will be different and difficult for some of course but there are ways and means of staying in touch on the day and make arrangements to see others during the period?

But will he ? Will he not be forced to quarantine for 14 days depending on what country he last visited ?

Good point, bloody Eck he will be busy..

Nah, Santa will be fine. He'll say he's quarantining, but he'll just continue as normal.

Not sure the border force will believe Rudolph's red nose is not down to covid, he could be out..

If they try to fuck with Santa, he can just remind 'em he knows where they live and he'll shit down their chimneys."

Is that the new naughty or nice list

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Santa will still come for those who believe, albeit wearing PPE..

It will be different and difficult for some of course but there are ways and means of staying in touch on the day and make arrangements to see others during the period?

But will he ? Will he not be forced to quarantine for 14 days depending on what country he last visited ?

Good point, bloody Eck he will be busy..

Nah, Santa will be fine. He'll say he's quarantining, but he'll just continue as normal.

Not sure the border force will believe Rudolph's red nose is not down to covid, he could be out..

If they try to fuck with Santa, he can just remind 'em he knows where they live and he'll shit down their chimneys."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Christmas and all religious _estivals are cancelled and could stay cancelled...!!!! The same as music and entertainments..bars, clubs and everything else where 6 or more people might get together to enjoy themselves...couple all that with mass unemployment salaries going down because too many are willing or forced through need or necessity to work for low wages....isnt that some politicians dreams to have why the masses don't have...control them and dictate to them...

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

All those neighbours counting people in to others houses. Getting ready to cash in those long harboured grudges.

Ho Ho Ho

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"If strict rules are in place on Christmas Day, I bet they'll just be roundly ignored by millions."
Sadly true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fuck Christmas "

Bah humbug

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Christmas and all religious _estivals are cancelled and could stay cancelled...!!!! The same as music and entertainments..bars, clubs and everything else where 6 or more people might get together to enjoy themselves...couple all that with mass unemployment salaries going down because too many are willing or forced through need or necessity to work for low wages....isnt that some politicians dreams to have why the masses don't have...control them and dictate to them... "
load of bollocks

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By *elshsunsWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire

It’s not cancelled in our house !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If strict rules are in place on Christmas Day, I bet they'll just be roundly ignored by millions."

I do hope so...

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"If strict rules are in place on Christmas Day, I bet they'll just be roundly ignored by millions."

I think you may be right...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If strict rules are in place on Christmas Day, I bet they'll just be roundly ignored by millions.

I think you may be right..."

Yes and it will be the same people who do this that will then moan that restrictions get tighter and will blame the government.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"If strict rules are in place on Christmas Day, I bet they'll just be roundly ignored by millions.

I think you may be right...

Yes and it will be the same people who do this that will then moan that restrictions get tighter and will blame the government. "

This..

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights


"Swinging clubs are closed and you can only think about Christmas?

But seriously, all kinds of social activities and gatherings are curtailed for the foreseeable future. Why should one religious _estival be any different? Think of all the people losing out on their big wedding day or unable to properly mourn a bereavement.

I'm not saying Christmas should be treated differently. I'm just saying I reckon many people will do whatever the hell they want on Christmas Day, no matter what the rules are."

Now that depends on the death rates, If we hit big numbers quick then I bet they will stay away from each other or bye bye relatives

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By *bdnhonestMan
over a year ago

Aberdeen

Xmas is cancelled until July 2021 because Santa cant visit each country without self isolating for 14 day's

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Swinging clubs are closed and you can only think about Christmas?

But seriously, all kinds of social activities and gatherings are curtailed for the foreseeable future. Why should one religious _estival be any different? Think of all the people losing out on their big wedding day or unable to properly mourn a bereavement.

I'm not saying Christmas should be treated differently. I'm just saying I reckon many people will do whatever the hell they want on Christmas Day, no matter what the rules are.

Now that depends on the death rates, If we hit big numbers quick then I bet they will stay away from each other or bye bye relatives "

Exactly id rather miss one Christmas with someone I love then every Christmas.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Xmas is cancelled until July 2021 because Santa cant visit each country without self isolating for 14 day's "

Nope because Santa is magic and he will find a way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Christmas is about family for me and my wife so will.just have our normal Christmas.

We will just have to give them time slots.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Christmas is about family for me and my wife so will.just have our normal Christmas.

We will just have to give them time slots. "

Good idea!

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood


"Swinging clubs are closed and you can only think about Christmas?

But seriously, all kinds of social activities and gatherings are curtailed for the foreseeable future. Why should one religious _estival be any different? Think of all the people losing out on their big wedding day or unable to properly mourn a bereavement.

I'm not saying Christmas should be treated differently. I'm just saying I reckon many people will do whatever the hell they want on Christmas Day, no matter what the rules are.

A lot of people are anyway.

This, it's partly why we are where we are now..

I do wonder how many gave up on the rules after the Cummings fiasco. It felt like a turning point."

no one i know did.the ones round my way who wernt following the rules hadnt been following them from the very start

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

We don't know what effects the pending changes will have on infection levels, so rules may change either way.

Many people will carry on as normal, with small groups, or meeting no madditional others.

For some it could be a true blessing, where they keep visits to a shorter duration , if they don't manage to stop any of them.

6 people per hour would involve a very large group of family and friends over the day and they can of course meet over multiple days.

It's just Christmas. It's just a day that was appropriated from pagan festivities into Christianity, where most people now find the religion not to be something that they actively engage with.

People can be credited with great skills of creativity to find other solutions, if they are desperate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We don't know what effects the pending changes will have on infection levels, so rules may change either way.

Many people will carry on as normal, with small groups, or meeting no madditional others.

For some it could be a true blessing, where they keep visits to a shorter duration , if they don't manage to stop any of them.

6 people per hour would involve a very large group of family and friends over the day and they can of course meet over multiple days.

It's just Christmas. It's just a day that was appropriated from pagan festivities into Christianity, where most people now find the religion not to be something that they actively engage with.

People can be credited with great skills of creativity to find other solutions, if they are desperate. "

I actually think the sooner they make the announcement the better, then people have time to get their heads round it and prepare.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Santa will still come for those who believe, albeit wearing PPE..

Rudolph and co will be wearing visors, so his nose won't be obscured.

Don't forget to leave a bottle of alcohol hand gel out this year, instead of the traditional drop of sherry. "

Santa maybe shielding by then lol

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By *iker boy 69Man
over a year ago

midlands


"The rules stay in place - you have Christmas with up to 6 people. if people break them I hope they get the fines. It’s no different to birthdays or anniversary’s or any other celebration day. And the virus gives not one shit that it’s the winter equinox ..."

But the virus will let you off if youre in a pub before 10pm with lots of folk you dont even know. Surely folk youd see xmas day are folk you are in constant touch with, so over the weeks before yiud be aware if any of them have felt unwell, or been tested etc.... but people in a pub you dont know are better to be around

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If strict rules are in place on Christmas Day, I bet they'll just be roundly ignored by millions.

I would have thought so, and all those who don’t have a big family will tut loudly.

I think you misspelt “all tho use that are not selfish twats” "

In that case you think wrong

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

Thats fine by us.

We prefer Christmas in our own space.

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

Christians will celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ.

LOL Only kidding.

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham


"The rules stay in place - you have Christmas with up to 6 people. if people break them I hope they get the fines. It’s no different to birthdays or anniversary’s or any other celebration day. And the virus gives not one shit that it’s the winter equinox ..."
would you be saying this if you had the restrictions we now have in the north east. We can't meet anyone outside of our households. No rule of 6 for us, yes Christmas looks great then doesn't it.

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By *aptop9Man
over a year ago

Worthing

I agree, but in this mad world of PC correctness, is a white Xmas allowed

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By *indy1971TV/TS
over a year ago

Brynmawr

Christmas is over rated anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Infected numbers are going up. Restrictions are tightening. There are hints this is the way things will go for months.

But what happens at Christmas? Johnson and his gov. will know they have no chance of telling the country to stay away from friends and family on Christmas Day."

If we all just conform to what’s been asked of us then perhaps we won’t be moaning about Christmas

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We sit down eat our roasts say grace and pass presents, enjoy the queens speech x

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By *eglieanCouple
over a year ago

Torbay

People should stop talking bollocks. Stop looking for ways round this dreadfully situation. Stop blaming everyone one else. Including the government. The BAME, the Raves and street parties should of been stopped at the beginning, how many lives were lost to them? How many are going to lose their lives in the future by cancer not being able to get treat ment. There be loads more,,, maybe one of your relatives, wife children,, you might not have the same attitude then. Does anyone think good old Jerermy Corbyn would of cured it by now? His attitude,, half the nation would be dead by now.

If we knuckle down now and follow the rules we might all get some normality by Christmas. It's a new problem to us all, learning as we go and people will make mistakes and people will die.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"People should stop talking bollocks. Stop looking for ways round this dreadfully situation. Stop blaming everyone one else. Including the government. The BAME, the Raves and street parties should of been stopped at the beginning, how many lives were lost to them? How many are going to lose their lives in the future by cancer not being able to get treat ment. There be loads more,,, maybe one of your relatives, wife children,, you might not have the same attitude then. Does anyone think good old Jerermy Corbyn would of cured it by now? His attitude,, half the nation would be dead by now.

If we knuckle down now and follow the rules we might all get some normality by Christmas. It's a new problem to us all, learning as we go and people will make mistakes and people will die."

It's astonishing people still try to blame Corbyn for everything. Despite the fact he was never in power. And despite the fact he's not even Labour leader anymore. Johnson's in charge now. The buck's supposed to stop with him.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Actually... here's what I'm guessing might happen at Christmas. Loads of people are bound to disobey restrictions on that day in this country. So I don't think Johnson will try to enforce them at all.

I reckon he'll go the other way and announce that people can visit/mingle etc for Christmas. And there will be nonsensical headlines along the lines of "Boris saves Xmas!"

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By *eglieanCouple
over a year ago

Torbay

No the buck stops with the people ignoring the rules, which are put there to try, to do something.

Not just pulling everyone down, ignoring it and think they are clever getting round it. They are the ones responsible for the deaths of maybe your loved ones.

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By *arentsgonebadCouple
over a year ago

sheffield

The same as every other Christmas lol pretend you like every member of your family, we all have a bet on a white Christmas and then grumble when it doesn't happen eat 3 times out body weight in shit because its Christmas after all,

. Get fat then moan that we need to go gym for new years res, watch reruns of top of the pops while cooking an glorified Sunday dinner that could feed a 3rd world country for 3 weeks, drink enough cherry and other random alcohol thats been stored in the cupboard since the dawn of time, pretend we all like advacat and make yellow snowballs, and finally watch some 90 odd year old woman chat utter bollocks for 10 minutes on current issues that no one gives a shit about...oh and I forgot the mid afternoon nap...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"No the buck stops with the people ignoring the rules, which are put there to try, to do something.

Not just pulling everyone down, ignoring it and think they are clever getting round it. They are the ones responsible for the deaths of maybe your loved ones."

No, the buck really is supposed to stop with Johnson. He's the national leader. He's the one who's ultimately responsible, no matter how much he tries to blame others.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"People should stop talking bollocks. Stop looking for ways round this dreadfully situation. Stop blaming everyone one else. Including the government. The BAME, the Raves and street parties should of been stopped at the beginning, how many lives were lost to them? How many are going to lose their lives in the future by cancer not being able to get treat ment. There be loads more,,, maybe one of your relatives, wife children,, you might not have the same attitude then. Does anyone think good old Jerermy Corbyn would of cured it by now? His attitude,, half the nation would be dead by now.

If we knuckle down now and follow the rules we might all get some normality by Christmas. It's a new problem to us all, learning as we go and people will make mistakes and people will die."

Funny you mention Corbyn..

I mean why stop there, Churchill, Lloyd George, Pitt the younger ..?

If we're going down the whataboutery route to deflect from the current actual incumbent that is..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"No the buck stops with the people ignoring the rules, which are put there to try, to do something.

Not just pulling everyone down, ignoring it and think they are clever getting round it. They are the ones responsible for the deaths of maybe your loved ones."

Also, your last paragraph basically describes what Cummings did. A man Johnson defended, thus undermining the importance of following public health rules for members of the public during this pandemic.

Sorry. You were saying Johnson wasn't to blame?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"No the buck stops with the people ignoring the rules, which are put there to try, to do something.

Not just pulling everyone down, ignoring it and think they are clever getting round it. They are the ones responsible for the deaths of maybe your loved ones."

Dominic Cummings then..

Yes of course members of the public have been utter twonks but to ignore the failings of the government is head in the sand..

yes they have got some things right too..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Christmas .... my guess is we all sit in our respective homes with zoom/FaceTime etc on to speak to other members of the family as we all open our amazon boxed presents as the high street shops close down and we all look forward to all that tax money that amazon will pay the government help cover the cost of the NHS etc ........

Merry Christmas one and all xxx

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By *uckslut and MCouple
over a year ago

Poole

Won't effect us. Kids will goto their dad as normal. Children under 18 can still goto other parents house, if from a spilt household As they have done through out lock down.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Johnson will announce a lifting of restrictions because 'reasons' and will declare he's saved Christmas. The Express will frott themselves asunder. Infections will rise in the new year and we'll be told to stop breaking the rules as restrictions come back in.

I mean, I wouldn't bet against it.

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By *arentsgonebadCouple
over a year ago

sheffield

Don't talk so much shit lol Johnson is responsible for making the rules and giving the police the power to enforce them.

He is Not responsible for each individual and their actions, they act on their own accord if they choose mot to ahead to the rules and break the rules on their head be it.

It is Everyone's responsibility not 1 man or Organisation


"No the buck stops with the people ignoring the rules, which are put there to try, to do something.

Not just pulling everyone down, ignoring it and think they are clever getting round it. They are the ones responsible for the deaths of maybe your loved ones.

No, the buck really is supposed to stop with Johnson. He's the national leader. He's the one who's ultimately responsible, no matter how much he tries to blame others.

"

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By *essiCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

Calm down..it's one day, this year it will just have to be different

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Swinging clubs are closed and you can only think about Christmas?

But seriously, all kinds of social activities and gatherings are curtailed for the foreseeable future. Why should one religious _estival be any different? Think of all the people losing out on their big wedding day or unable to properly mourn a bereavement.

I'm not saying Christmas should be treated differently. I'm just saying I reckon many people will do whatever the hell they want on Christmas Day, no matter what the rules are."

and vocalising that thought gives those people even more justification for doing it because they will go oh well everyone expected us to break the rule anyway because its christmas

imagine the uk as a high school... now imagine social distancing was considered cool ... while i dont agree with phoning the cops on your neighbours, we might be in a situation where a little nosy neighbour judgement and peer pressure wouldn’t go amiss

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

Don't talk so much shit lol Johnson is responsible for making the rules and giving the police the power to enforce them.

He is Not responsible for each individual and their actions, they act on their own accord if they choose mot to ahead to the rules and break the rules on their head be it.

It is Everyone's responsibility not 1 man or Organisation

No the buck stops with the people ignoring the rules, which are put there to try, to do something.

Not just pulling everyone down, ignoring it and think they are clever getting round it. They are the ones responsible for the deaths of maybe your loved ones.

No, the buck really is supposed to stop with Johnson. He's the national leader. He's the one who's ultimately responsible, no matter how much he tries to blame others.

"

Do you really wanna talk about Johnson and responsibility?

OK.

Johnson's responsible for missing multiple Cobra meetings earlier in the pandemic. He's also responsible for publicy boasting about how he was going round a hospital, shaking hands with everybody during a pandemic. He's also responsible for introducing a lockdown far too late. (Earlier he was saying this country was going to just "take it on the chin" as opposed to bothering with any sort of lockdown to save lives.)

What else?

The many deaths in care homes? Giving huge contracts to private companies without any sort of public tender, even when those companies had track records of failure. PPE failures. He scrapped the pandemic committee shortly before the pandemic.

It goes on and on and on. He's very responsible for this government's lousy response to the pandemic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Santa will still come for those who believe, albeit wearing PPE..

It will be different and difficult for some of course but there are ways and means of staying in touch on the day and make arrangements to see others during the period?

But will he ? Will he not be forced to quarantine for 14 days depending on what country he last visited ?

Good point, bloody Eck he will be busy.."

maybe we tell the kids he is sending elves out to each country on his behalf this year ... mini sleighs with one reindeer each

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By *arentsgonebadCouple
over a year ago

sheffield

But not responsible for the peoples actions who break guidelines

Which is what you originally stated lol


"

Don't talk so much shit lol Johnson is responsible for making the rules and giving the police the power to enforce them.

He is Not responsible for each individual and their actions, they act on their own accord if they choose mot to ahead to the rules and break the rules on their head be it.

It is Everyone's responsibility not 1 man or Organisation

No the buck stops with the people ignoring the rules, which are put there to try, to do something.

Not just pulling everyone down, ignoring it and think they are clever getting round it. They are the ones responsible for the deaths of maybe your loved ones.

No, the buck really is supposed to stop with Johnson. He's the national leader. He's the one who's ultimately responsible, no matter how much he tries to blame others.

Do you really wanna talk about Johnson and responsibility?

OK.

Johnson's responsible for missing multiple Cobra meetings earlier in the pandemic. He's also responsible for publicy boasting about how he was going round a hospital, shaking hands with everybody during a pandemic. He's also responsible for introducing a lockdown far too late. (Earlier he was saying this country was going to just "take it on the chin" as opposed to bothering with any sort of lockdown to save lives.)

What else?

The many deaths in care homes? Giving huge contracts to private companies without any sort of public tender, even when those companies had track records of failure. PPE failures. He scrapped the pandemic committee shortly before the pandemic.

It goes on and on and on. He's very responsible for this government's lousy response to the pandemic.

"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

And Johnson defended Cummings breaking lockdown, shattering the trust of many people who actually had been following the rules.

And he's currently in the process of trying to break international law, all while telling ue we have to follow the rules.

He's fundamentally undermined any trust in government at a time when it's crucial. Who knows how many lives that will ultimately cost?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Don't talk so much shit lol Johnson is responsible for making the rules and giving the police the power to enforce them.

He is Not responsible for each individual and their actions, they act on their own accord if they choose mot to ahead to the rules and break the rules on their head be it.

It is Everyone's responsibility not 1 man or Organisation

No the buck stops with the people ignoring the rules, which are put there to try, to do something.

Not just pulling everyone down, ignoring it and think they are clever getting round it. They are the ones responsible for the deaths of maybe your loved ones.

No, the buck really is supposed to stop with Johnson. He's the national leader. He's the one who's ultimately responsible, no matter how much he tries to blame others.

"

If our world beating track and trace had been introduced in June as promised then we probably wouldn’t be having this conversation.

Even a bog standard one that Germany and Italy use would do.

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By *arentsgonebadCouple
over a year ago

sheffield

Your clearly a more educated individual than the entire government and scientific experts... Maybe you should run for number 10 next time around lol


"

Don't talk so much shit lol Johnson is responsible for making the rules and giving the police the power to enforce them.

He is Not responsible for each individual and their actions, they act on their own accord if they choose mot to ahead to the rules and break the rules on their head be it.

It is Everyone's responsibility not 1 man or Organisation

No the buck stops with the people ignoring the rules, which are put there to try, to do something.

Not just pulling everyone down, ignoring it and think they are clever getting round it. They are the ones responsible for the deaths of maybe your loved ones.

No, the buck really is supposed to stop with Johnson. He's the national leader. He's the one who's ultimately responsible, no matter how much he tries to blame others.

Do you really wanna talk about Johnson and responsibility?

OK.

Johnson's responsible for missing multiple Cobra meetings earlier in the pandemic. He's also responsible for publicy boasting about how he was going round a hospital, shaking hands with everybody during a pandemic. He's also responsible for introducing a lockdown far too late. (Earlier he was saying this country was going to just "take it on the chin" as opposed to bothering with any sort of lockdown to save lives.)

What else?

The many deaths in care homes? Giving huge contracts to private companies without any sort of public tender, even when those companies had track records of failure. PPE failures. He scrapped the pandemic committee shortly before the pandemic.

It goes on and on and on. He's very responsible for this government's lousy response to the pandemic.

"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"But not responsible for the peoples actions who break guidelines

Which is what you originally stated lol

Don't talk so much shit lol Johnson is responsible for making the rules and giving the police the power to enforce them.

He is Not responsible for each individual and their actions, they act on their own accord if they choose mot to ahead to the rules and break the rules on their head be it.

It is Everyone's responsibility not 1 man or Organisation

No the buck stops with the people ignoring the rules, which are put there to try, to do something.

Not just pulling everyone down, ignoring it and think they are clever getting round it. They are the ones responsible for the deaths of maybe your loved ones.

No, the buck really is supposed to stop with Johnson. He's the national leader. He's the one who's ultimately responsible, no matter how much he tries to blame others.

Do you really wanna talk about Johnson and responsibility?

OK.

Johnson's responsible for missing multiple Cobra meetings earlier in the pandemic. He's also responsible for publicy boasting about how he was going round a hospital, shaking hands with everybody during a pandemic. He's also responsible for introducing a lockdown far too late. (Earlier he was saying this country was going to just "take it on the chin" as opposed to bothering with any sort of lockdown to save lives.)

What else?

The many deaths in care homes? Giving huge contracts to private companies without any sort of public tender, even when those companies had track records of failure. PPE failures. He scrapped the pandemic committee shortly before the pandemic.

It goes on and on and on. He's very responsible for this government's lousy response to the pandemic.

"

Do you actually understand the meaning of a person, for example a leader, being in a position of reponsibility? Do you understand that means they're ultimately responsible? Especially when their actions, and inactions, have contributed towards certain things?

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By *arentsgonebadCouple
over a year ago

sheffield

Okay ill go break all government guidelines because it doesn't matter because by your logic it's Boris fault anyway


"But not responsible for the peoples actions who break guidelines

Which is what you originally stated lol

Don't talk so much shit lol Johnson is responsible for making the rules and giving the police the power to enforce them.

He is Not responsible for each individual and their actions, they act on their own accord if they choose mot to ahead to the rules and break the rules on their head be it.

It is Everyone's responsibility not 1 man or Organisation

No the buck stops with the people ignoring the rules, which are put there to try, to do something.

Not just pulling everyone down, ignoring it and think they are clever getting round it. They are the ones responsible for the deaths of maybe your loved ones.

No, the buck really is supposed to stop with Johnson. He's the national leader. He's the one who's ultimately responsible, no matter how much he tries to blame others.

Do you really wanna talk about Johnson and responsibility?

OK.

Johnson's responsible for missing multiple Cobra meetings earlier in the pandemic. He's also responsible for publicy boasting about how he was going round a hospital, shaking hands with everybody during a pandemic. He's also responsible for introducing a lockdown far too late. (Earlier he was saying this country was going to just "take it on the chin" as opposed to bothering with any sort of lockdown to save lives.)

What else?

The many deaths in care homes? Giving huge contracts to private companies without any sort of public tender, even when those companies had track records of failure. PPE failures. He scrapped the pandemic committee shortly before the pandemic.

It goes on and on and on. He's very responsible for this government's lousy response to the pandemic.

Do you actually understand the meaning of a person, for example a leader, being in a position of reponsibility? Do you understand that means they're ultimately responsible? Especially when their actions, and inactions, have contributed towards certain things?"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Okay ill go break all government guidelines because it doesn't matter because by your logic it's Boris fault anyway

But not responsible for the peoples actions who break guidelines

Which is what you originally stated lol

Don't talk so much shit lol Johnson is responsible for making the rules and giving the police the power to enforce them.

He is Not responsible for each individual and their actions, they act on their own accord if they choose mot to ahead to the rules and break the rules on their head be it.

It is Everyone's responsibility not 1 man or Organisation

No the buck stops with the people ignoring the rules, which are put there to try, to do something.

Not just pulling everyone down, ignoring it and think they are clever getting round it. They are the ones responsible for the deaths of maybe your loved ones.

No, the buck really is supposed to stop with Johnson. He's the national leader. He's the one who's ultimately responsible, no matter how much he tries to blame others.

Do you really wanna talk about Johnson and responsibility?

OK.

Johnson's responsible for missing multiple Cobra meetings earlier in the pandemic. He's also responsible for publicy boasting about how he was going round a hospital, shaking hands with everybody during a pandemic. He's also responsible for introducing a lockdown far too late. (Earlier he was saying this country was going to just "take it on the chin" as opposed to bothering with any sort of lockdown to save lives.)

What else?

The many deaths in care homes? Giving huge contracts to private companies without any sort of public tender, even when those companies had track records of failure. PPE failures. He scrapped the pandemic committee shortly before the pandemic.

It goes on and on and on. He's very responsible for this government's lousy response to the pandemic.

Do you actually understand the meaning of a person, for example a leader, being in a position of reponsibility? Do you understand that means they're ultimately responsible? Especially when their actions, and inactions, have contributed towards certain things? "

That's the Cummings spirit!

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over a year ago

I notice you seem v unwilling to say that the PM is ultimately reponsible for anything. So what's the point of him being PM?

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over a year ago


"But not responsible for the peoples actions who break guidelines

Which is what you originally stated lol

Don't talk so much shit lol Johnson is responsible for making the rules and giving the police the power to enforce them.

He is Not responsible for each individual and their actions, they act on their own accord if they choose mot to ahead to the rules and break the rules on their head be it.

It is Everyone's responsibility not 1 man or Organisation

No the buck stops with the people ignoring the rules, which are put there to try, to do something.

Not just pulling everyone down, ignoring it and think they are clever getting round it. They are the ones responsible for the deaths of maybe your loved ones.

No, the buck really is supposed to stop with Johnson. He's the national leader. He's the one who's ultimately responsible, no matter how much he tries to blame others.

Do you really wanna talk about Johnson and responsibility?

OK.

Johnson's responsible for missing multiple Cobra meetings earlier in the pandemic. He's also responsible for publicy boasting about how he was going round a hospital, shaking hands with everybody during a pandemic. He's also responsible for introducing a lockdown far too late. (Earlier he was saying this country was going to just "take it on the chin" as opposed to bothering with any sort of lockdown to save lives.)

What else?

The many deaths in care homes? Giving huge contracts to private companies without any sort of public tender, even when those companies had track records of failure. PPE failures. He scrapped the pandemic committee shortly before the pandemic.

It goes on and on and on. He's very responsible for this government's lousy response to the pandemic.

Do you actually understand the meaning of a person, for example a leader, being in a position of reponsibility? Do you understand that means they're ultimately responsible? Especially when their actions, and inactions, have contributed towards certain things?"

actually since you seem to want to be pedantic about everything else

accountability as a leader is not the same as responsibility as the task completer

boris is accountable for the rules

individuals of the UK are responsible for their own actions

just because the govt have repeatedly fucked up doesnt absolve the rest of us if we decide to be selfish tw*ts

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By *arentsgonebadCouple
over a year ago

sheffield

I notice you clearly haven't read my first post...


"I notice you seem v unwilling to say that the PM is ultimately reponsible for anything. So what's the point of him being PM?"

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Why not?

We expected everyone to behave responsibly during Eid."

This. Plus Jewish New Year recently too. Christians will have to suck it up like every other religious group.

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By *arentsgonebadCouple
over a year ago

sheffield

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over a year ago


"I notice you clearly haven't read my first post...

I notice you seem v unwilling to say that the PM is ultimately reponsible for anything. So what's the point of him being PM? "

His actions contribute hugely to the actions of others in the country he rules. It boils down to that. When he does or says certain things, that causes real problems.

Such as defending Cummings' rule-breaking at a time where it would have benefitted us all to follow the same rules.

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By *arentsgonebadCouple
over a year ago

sheffield

Yawn


"I notice you clearly haven't read my first post...

I notice you seem v unwilling to say that the PM is ultimately reponsible for anything. So what's the point of him being PM?

His actions contribute hugely to the actions of others in the country he rules. It boils down to that. When he does or says certain things, that causes real problems.

Such as defending Cummings' rule-breaking at a time where it would have benefitted us all to follow the same rules.

"

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By *arentsgonebadCouple
over a year ago

sheffield

But we don't all follow the same ruilea people break the rules every single day so what's your point other thaan it's all Boris fault lol Scotland sacked the chief advisor people still break the rules is that all sturgens fault or is that Boris fault to


"I notice you clearly haven't read my first post...

I notice you seem v unwilling to say that the PM is ultimately reponsible for anything. So what's the point of him being PM?

His actions contribute hugely to the actions of others in the country he rules. It boils down to that. When he does or says certain things, that causes real problems.

Such as defending Cummings' rule-breaking at a time where it would have benefitted us all to follow the same rules.

"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Yawn

I notice you clearly haven't read my first post...

I notice you seem v unwilling to say that the PM is ultimately reponsible for anything. So what's the point of him being PM?

His actions contribute hugely to the actions of others in the country he rules. It boils down to that. When he does or says certain things, that causes real problems.

Such as defending Cummings' rule-breaking at a time where it would have benefitted us all to follow the same rules.

"

Yeah who cares about a government being incomepetent during a pandemic?

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By *arentsgonebadCouple
over a year ago

sheffield

Your clearly one of the people in life who is never at fault it's always someone else fault.. End of


"Yawn

I notice you clearly haven't read my first post...

I notice you seem v unwilling to say that the PM is ultimately reponsible for anything. So what's the point of him being PM?

His actions contribute hugely to the actions of others in the country he rules. It boils down to that. When he does or says certain things, that causes real problems.

Such as defending Cummings' rule-breaking at a time where it would have benefitted us all to follow the same rules.

Yeah who cares about a government being incomepetent during a pandemic?"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Your clearly one of the people in life who is never at fault it's always someone else fault.. End of

Yawn

I notice you clearly haven't read my first post...

I notice you seem v unwilling to say that the PM is ultimately reponsible for anything. So what's the point of him being PM?

His actions contribute hugely to the actions of others in the country he rules. It boils down to that. When he does or says certain things, that causes real problems.

Such as defending Cummings' rule-breaking at a time where it would have benefitted us all to follow the same rules.

Yeah who cares about a government being incomepetent during a pandemic?"

This is hilarious. Accidentally, you just described Johnson.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


" just because the govt have repeatedly fucked up doesnt absolve the rest of us if we decide to be selfish tw*ts "

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" just because the govt have repeatedly fucked up doesnt absolve the rest of us if we decide to be selfish tw*ts

"

Yes, and those selfish tw*ts don't absolve Johnson of his fuck ups.

Round and round it goes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why worry about 3 months time? Why can't people abide with social responsibility? Let's just wait and see, worrying makes life even more unhappy!

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


" just because the govt have repeatedly fucked up doesnt absolve the rest of us if we decide to be selfish tw*ts

Yes, and those selfish tw*ts don't absolve Johnson of his fuck ups.

Round and round it goes."

No

Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" just because the govt have repeatedly fucked up doesnt absolve the rest of us if we decide to be selfish tw*ts

Yes, and those selfish tw*ts don't absolve Johnson of his fuck ups.

Round and round it goes.

No

Buck stops with our own personal responsibility "

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


" just because the govt have repeatedly fucked up doesnt absolve the rest of us if we decide to be selfish tw*ts

Yes, and those selfish tw*ts don't absolve Johnson of his fuck ups.

Round and round it goes.

No

Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee."

Fine

You want your arse wiped - give Boris a call

Have some respect for yourself and your own actions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee."

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" just because the govt have repeatedly fucked up doesnt absolve the rest of us if we decide to be selfish tw*ts

Yes, and those selfish tw*ts don't absolve Johnson of his fuck ups.

Round and round it goes.

No

Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

Fine

You want your arse wiped - give Boris a call

Have some respect for yourself and your own actions "

Hang on. Is he allowed to come and wipe my arse? Would that be breaking the rules?

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

Santa comes but once a year

Which is more frequent than most on fab at the moment

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together "

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together "

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Santa comes but once a year

Which is more frequent than most on fab at the moment "

Yes it seems that way lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" just because the govt have repeatedly fucked up doesnt absolve the rest of us if we decide to be selfish tw*ts

Yes, and those selfish tw*ts don't absolve Johnson of his fuck ups.

Round and round it goes.

No

Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee."

ok heres another example ... shopkeeper forgets to lock up and he comes back in morning place is ransacked and bare

he has accountability for that shop so when it gets looted overnight his insurance wont pay out

does it make it ok that the thieves stole and cleared the place out though? who is responsible for what they did

plenty blame to go around for shitty behaviour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that."

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life "

Exactly but people want someone else to blame for their bad behaviour.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life "

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

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By *ore of thatMan
over a year ago

skerries

Why blame cumming or boris or anyone else .if people are stupid enough to not stay safe it's their own fault . Grow up and take responsibility for your own actions . Its always someone else's fault

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Why blame cumming or boris or anyone else .if people are stupid enough to not stay safe it's their own fault . Grow up and take responsibility for your own actions . Its always someone else's fault"

My previous post answers you.

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By *arentsgonebadCouple
over a year ago

sheffield

Exactly


" just because the govt have repeatedly fucked up doesnt absolve the rest of us if we decide to be selfish tw*ts

Yes, and those selfish tw*ts don't absolve Johnson of his fuck ups.

Round and round it goes.

No

Buck stops with our own personal responsibility "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional."

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

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By *arentsgonebadCouple
over a year ago

sheffield

Looks like your own post has ended up with you liking like a numpty lol


"Why blame cumming or boris or anyone else .if people are stupid enough to not stay safe it's their own fault . Grow up and take responsibility for your own actions . Its always someone else's fault

My previous post answers you."

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of "

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

Looks like your own post has ended up with you liking like a numpty lol

Why blame cumming or boris or anyone else .if people are stupid enough to not stay safe it's their own fault . Grow up and take responsibility for your own actions . Its always someone else's fault

My previous post answers you."

Hey ho. If you think so, I'm sure it must be true.

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen


"

But what happens at Christmas?"

Scientific Advisor Vallence tells us that the cases are doubling every day.

Thus he calculates erroneously that we will have 30,000 cases a day by mid October and 200 deaths a day by the end of October.

So applying exactly the same method we will all have had CV19 and 11.5 million of us will be dead by Christmas day.

Shortly after New Years Day, all human life in the UK will have ended.

That is the absurd logic being promoted by the government.

Merry Christmas everyone.

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By *arentsgonebadCouple
over a year ago

sheffield

Not just me that thinks so clearly quite a others


"

Looks like your own post has ended up with you liking like a numpty lol

Why blame cumming or boris or anyone else .if people are stupid enough to not stay safe it's their own fault . Grow up and take responsibility for your own actions . Its always someone else's fault

My previous post answers you.

Hey ho. If you think so, I'm sure it must be true."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of."

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Not just me that thinks so clearly quite a others

Looks like your own post has ended up with you liking like a numpty lol

Why blame cumming or boris or anyone else .if people are stupid enough to not stay safe it's their own fault . Grow up and take responsibility for your own actions . Its always someone else's fault

My previous post answers you.

Hey ho. If you think so, I'm sure it must be true."

Oh well. That's me convinced then. Thank you for pointing it out so politely.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again "

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of."

I would give up ,she is tearing you a new one

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of.

I would give up ,she is tearing you a new one "

Really? Gosh. Good to know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of."

i mean that might make sense if i hadnt provided examples before that its like trying to debate with a petulant teenager

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of.

i mean that might make sense if i hadnt provided examples before that its like trying to debate with a petulant teenager "

I can't imagine where I picked up this habit of using end of.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of.

i mean that might make sense if i hadnt provided examples before that its like trying to debate with a petulant teenager "

You do know he will want the last word

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of.

i mean that might make sense if i hadnt provided examples before that its like trying to debate with a petulant teenager

You do know he will want the last word "

Why don't you all just stop mocking her and point scoring.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of.

i mean that might make sense if i hadnt provided examples before that its like trying to debate with a petulant teenager

You do know he will want the last word

Why don't you all just stop mocking her and point scoring. "

Him

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By *arentsgonebadCouple
over a year ago

sheffield

Hes welcome to it, he's spent the last 2 hours ours making himself look like a clown


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of.

i mean that might make sense if i hadnt provided examples before that its like trying to debate with a petulant teenager

You do know he will want the last word "

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over a year ago


"Hes welcome to it, he's spent the last 2 hours ours making himself look like a clown

Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of.

i mean that might make sense if i hadnt provided examples before that its like trying to debate with a petulant teenager

You do know he will want the last word "

What are "2 hours ours?"

And how do I look like a clown for providing a logical argument and saying the leader of our country actually is in a position of responsibility?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of.

i mean that might make sense if i hadnt provided examples before that its like trying to debate with a petulant teenager

You do know he will want the last word "

only 34 posts to go

if he picks up my one occasion of counting the number of posts and runs with it like he has end of we might get there soon

(he also seems to think using end of is what made me compare to a petulant teenager missing the fact its the attitude flowing through every post making him look selfish and immature)

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of.

i mean that might make sense if i hadnt provided examples before that its like trying to debate with a petulant teenager

You do know he will want the last word

only 34 posts to go

if he picks up my one occasion of counting the number of posts and runs with it like he has end of we might get there soon

(he also seems to think using end of is what made me compare to a petulant teenager missing the fact its the attitude flowing through every post making him look selfish and immature) "

I provided a reasoned argument. Happy to requote it here:

"The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional."

It's hardly my fault you don't agree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of.

i mean that might make sense if i hadnt provided examples before that its like trying to debate with a petulant teenager

You do know he will want the last word

only 34 posts to go

if he picks up my one occasion of counting the number of posts and runs with it like he has end of we might get there soon

(he also seems to think using end of is what made me compare to a petulant teenager missing the fact its the attitude flowing through every post making him look selfish and immature) "

There is no need to insult him just because you don't agree.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of.

i mean that might make sense if i hadnt provided examples before that its like trying to debate with a petulant teenager

You do know he will want the last word

only 34 posts to go

if he picks up my one occasion of counting the number of posts and runs with it like he has end of we might get there soon

(he also seems to think using end of is what made me compare to a petulant teenager missing the fact its the attitude flowing through every post making him look selfish and immature)

I provided a reasoned argument. Happy to requote it here:

"The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional."

It's hardly my fault you don't agree."

The Cummings argument doesn’t stand up.

Public were surveyed and only a tiny tiny percentage cited the Cummings media furore as a reason why they ‘might’ ignore government advice ...

So we are back to you taking responsibility for your own actions/decisions.

Shows a degree of weakness to so easily blame someone/something else for something you are ultimately solely responsible for - personal responsibility.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of.

i mean that might make sense if i hadnt provided examples before that its like trying to debate with a petulant teenager

You do know he will want the last word

only 34 posts to go

if he picks up my one occasion of counting the number of posts and runs with it like he has end of we might get there soon

(he also seems to think using end of is what made me compare to a petulant teenager missing the fact its the attitude flowing through every post making him look selfish and immature)

I provided a reasoned argument. Happy to requote it here:

"The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional."

It's hardly my fault you don't agree.

The Cummings argument doesn’t stand up.

Public were surveyed and only a tiny tiny percentage cited the Cummings media furore as a reason why they ‘might’ ignore government advice ...

So we are back to you taking responsibility for your own actions/decisions.

Shows a degree of weakness to so easily blame someone/something else for something you are ultimately solely responsible for - personal responsibility.

"

"Shows a degree of weakness to so easily blame someone/something else for something you are ultimately solely responsible for - personal responsibility."

That sounds a lot like the way Johnson has been deflecting blame away from himself.

Round and round it goes again.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of.

i mean that might make sense if i hadnt provided examples before that its like trying to debate with a petulant teenager

You do know he will want the last word

only 34 posts to go

if he picks up my one occasion of counting the number of posts and runs with it like he has end of we might get there soon

(he also seems to think using end of is what made me compare to a petulant teenager missing the fact its the attitude flowing through every post making him look selfish and immature)

I provided a reasoned argument. Happy to requote it here:

"The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional."

It's hardly my fault you don't agree.

The Cummings argument doesn’t stand up.

Public were surveyed and only a tiny tiny percentage cited the Cummings media furore as a reason why they ‘might’ ignore government advice ...

So we are back to you taking responsibility for your own actions/decisions.

Shows a degree of weakness to so easily blame someone/something else for something you are ultimately solely responsible for - personal responsibility.

"Shows a degree of weakness to so easily blame someone/something else for something you are ultimately solely responsible for - personal responsibility."

That sounds a lot like the way Johnson has been deflecting blame away from himself.

Round and round it goes again."

You are dodging the fact your Cummings argument now doesn’t stand up - very johnsonesque

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of.

i mean that might make sense if i hadnt provided examples before that its like trying to debate with a petulant teenager

You do know he will want the last word

only 34 posts to go

if he picks up my one occasion of counting the number of posts and runs with it like he has end of we might get there soon

(he also seems to think using end of is what made me compare to a petulant teenager missing the fact its the attitude flowing through every post making him look selfish and immature)

There is no need to insult him just because you don't agree. "

I'm never surprised when certain people resort to ad hominem attacks on here. It's rather sad, though.

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By *arentsgonebadCouple
over a year ago

sheffield


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of.

i mean that might make sense if i hadnt provided examples before that its like trying to debate with a petulant teenager

You do know he will want the last word

only 34 posts to go

if he picks up my one occasion of counting the number of posts and runs with it like he has end of we might get there soon

(he also seems to think using end of is what made me compare to a petulant teenager missing the fact its the attitude flowing through every post making him look selfish and immature)

There is no need to insult him just because you don't agree.

I'm never surprised when certain people resort to ad hominem attacks on here. It's rather sad, though."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of.

i mean that might make sense if i hadnt provided examples before that its like trying to debate with a petulant teenager

You do know he will want the last word

only 34 posts to go

if he picks up my one occasion of counting the number of posts and runs with it like he has end of we might get there soon

(he also seems to think using end of is what made me compare to a petulant teenager missing the fact its the attitude flowing through every post making him look selfish and immature)

There is no need to insult him just because you don't agree. "

where have i insulted someone? I've described behaviour that is clear on the thread for all to see (using the govt to justify blatant disregard for rules designed to save lives is selfish and a number or the responses have been in a very childish debate style of just pick something someone said and repeat repeat repeat)

if i found a description of my behaviour offensive pretty sure it would be the mirror i would be looking in to make changes

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of.

i mean that might make sense if i hadnt provided examples before that its like trying to debate with a petulant teenager

You do know he will want the last word

only 34 posts to go

if he picks up my one occasion of counting the number of posts and runs with it like he has end of we might get there soon

(he also seems to think using end of is what made me compare to a petulant teenager missing the fact its the attitude flowing through every post making him look selfish and immature)

I provided a reasoned argument. Happy to requote it here:

"The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional."

It's hardly my fault you don't agree.

The Cummings argument doesn’t stand up.

Public were surveyed and only a tiny tiny percentage cited the Cummings media furore as a reason why they ‘might’ ignore government advice ...

So we are back to you taking responsibility for your own actions/decisions.

Shows a degree of weakness to so easily blame someone/something else for something you are ultimately solely responsible for - personal responsibility.

"Shows a degree of weakness to so easily blame someone/something else for something you are ultimately solely responsible for - personal responsibility."

That sounds a lot like the way Johnson has been deflecting blame away from himself.

Round and round it goes again.

You are dodging the fact your Cummings argument now doesn’t stand up - very johnsonesque

"

Actually, I was reading. Here's a snippet from the Lancet, talking about he effectt of Cummings' actions:

"It is only now, however, with the benefit of hindsight provided by systematic data, that we can see these negative effects in stark detail. New analyses of 220?755 surveys from 40?597 individuals in England, Scotland, and Wales, completed between April 24 and June 11, 2020, as part of University College London's COVID-19 Social Study, show that these events undermined confidence in the government to handle the pandemic specifically"

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By *ihimbiherCouple
over a year ago

lightwater

Have a funeral for the turkey in the back garden, as you can have up to 30 guests

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Have a funeral for the turkey in the back garden, as you can have up to 30 guests "

Outside the box thinking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have a funeral for the turkey in the back garden, as you can have up to 30 guests

Outside the box thinking

"

It most certainly is out of the box but still wouldn't work.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Have a funeral for the turkey in the back garden, as you can have up to 30 guests

Outside the box thinking

"

To quote your own words back to you: "You are dodging the fact your Cummings argument now doesn’t stand up - very johnsonesque"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of.

i mean that might make sense if i hadnt provided examples before that its like trying to debate with a petulant teenager

You do know he will want the last word

only 34 posts to go

if he picks up my one occasion of counting the number of posts and runs with it like he has end of we might get there soon

(he also seems to think using end of is what made me compare to a petulant teenager missing the fact its the attitude flowing through every post making him look selfish and immature)

I provided a reasoned argument. Happy to requote it here:

"The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional."

It's hardly my fault you don't agree.

The Cummings argument doesn’t stand up.

Public were surveyed and only a tiny tiny percentage cited the Cummings media furore as a reason why they ‘might’ ignore government advice ...

So we are back to you taking responsibility for your own actions/decisions.

Shows a degree of weakness to so easily blame someone/something else for something you are ultimately solely responsible for - personal responsibility.

"Shows a degree of weakness to so easily blame someone/something else for something you are ultimately solely responsible for - personal responsibility."

That sounds a lot like the way Johnson has been deflecting blame away from himself.

Round and round it goes again.

You are dodging the fact your Cummings argument now doesn’t stand up - very johnsonesque

Actually, I was reading. Here's a snippet from the Lancet, talking about he effectt of Cummings' actions:

"It is only now, however, with the benefit of hindsight provided by systematic data, that we can see these negative effects in stark detail. New analyses of 220?755 surveys from 40?597 individuals in England, Scotland, and Wales, completed between April 24 and June 11, 2020, as part of University College London's COVID-19 Social Study, show that these events undermined confidence in the government to handle the pandemic specifically"

"

i dont even disagree that cummings undermined the government ... of course he does

the issue is where people then extend that to the conclusion it makes it a free for all ... doesn’t anyone have a morale sense of responsibility left or does it need to all be written into law?

when we are in a general election period with no appointed government to be undermined do we all start pillaging and r*ping like a medieval society... of course not because the government arent the only ones that tell us right from wrong ... our conscience should be doing that too

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

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"Have a funeral for the turkey in the back garden, as you can have up to 30 guests

Outside the box thinking

It most certainly is out of the box but still wouldn't work. "

Why?

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over a year ago


"Have a funeral for the turkey in the back garden, as you can have up to 30 guests

Outside the box thinking

It most certainly is out of the box but still wouldn't work.

Why? "

Because the 30 people at a funeral has to be at a covid secure place and not in a residential property.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

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"Have a funeral for the turkey in the back garden, as you can have up to 30 guests

Outside the box thinking

It most certainly is out of the box but still wouldn't work.

Why?

Because the 30 people at a funeral has to be at a covid secure place and not in a residential property. "

Hmmmm

How do you go about being officially recognised as having a covid secure place ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If only everyone had followed the rules , maybe just maybe , this would of ended by now , but sadly whist people still think it’s a government control lie , it will never go away

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over a year ago


"Have a funeral for the turkey in the back garden, as you can have up to 30 guests

Outside the box thinking

It most certainly is out of the box but still wouldn't work.

Why?

Because the 30 people at a funeral has to be at a covid secure place and not in a residential property.

Hmmmm

How do you go about being officially recognised as having a covid secure place ?

"

Iv no idea but its very clear that it cannot happen in a residential property

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of.

i mean that might make sense if i hadnt provided examples before that its like trying to debate with a petulant teenager

You do know he will want the last word

only 34 posts to go

if he picks up my one occasion of counting the number of posts and runs with it like he has end of we might get there soon

(he also seems to think using end of is what made me compare to a petulant teenager missing the fact its the attitude flowing through every post making him look selfish and immature)

I provided a reasoned argument. Happy to requote it here:

"The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional."

It's hardly my fault you don't agree.

The Cummings argument doesn’t stand up.

Public were surveyed and only a tiny tiny percentage cited the Cummings media furore as a reason why they ‘might’ ignore government advice ...

So we are back to you taking responsibility for your own actions/decisions.

Shows a degree of weakness to so easily blame someone/something else for something you are ultimately solely responsible for - personal responsibility.

"Shows a degree of weakness to so easily blame someone/something else for something you are ultimately solely responsible for - personal responsibility."

That sounds a lot like the way Johnson has been deflecting blame away from himself.

Round and round it goes again.

You are dodging the fact your Cummings argument now doesn’t stand up - very johnsonesque

Actually, I was reading. Here's a snippet from the Lancet, talking about he effectt of Cummings' actions:

"It is only now, however, with the benefit of hindsight provided by systematic data, that we can see these negative effects in stark detail. New analyses of 220?755 surveys from 40?597 individuals in England, Scotland, and Wales, completed between April 24 and June 11, 2020, as part of University College London's COVID-19 Social Study, show that these events undermined confidence in the government to handle the pandemic specifically"

i dont even disagree that cummings undermined the government ... of course he does

the issue is where people then extend that to the conclusion it makes it a free for all ... doesn’t anyone have a morale sense of responsibility left or does it need to all be written into law?

when we are in a general election period with no appointed government to be undermined do we all start pillaging and r*ping like a medieval society... of course not because the government arent the only ones that tell us right from wrong ... our conscience should be doing that too "

You're rather proving my point for me. The point of law is it's supposed to be absolute. Written in stone, as it were. Cummings' actions hinted to a great many people the lockdown rules were not absolute. That it was ok to interpret the rules as they wished. Potentially leading to the free for all you mention.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"Have a funeral for the turkey in the back garden, as you can have up to 30 guests

Outside the box thinking

It most certainly is out of the box but still wouldn't work.

Why?

Because the 30 people at a funeral has to be at a covid secure place and not in a residential property.

Hmmmm

How do you go about being officially recognised as having a covid secure place ?

"

Hold it at the church.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Have a funeral for the turkey in the back garden, as you can have up to 30 guests

Outside the box thinking

It most certainly is out of the box but still wouldn't work.

Why?

Because the 30 people at a funeral has to be at a covid secure place and not in a residential property.

Hmmmm

How do you go about being officially recognised as having a covid secure place ?

Iv no idea but its very clear that it cannot happen in a residential property "

So when I go to a serviced apartment (my residence for the period of my stay) - they say they are “covid secure” .....

I’m thinking this line of investigation may have legs ????

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Birminghamweekend, still waiting to hear what you think of the quote from the Lancet about the effect of Cummings' actions. Here it is again for you:

"It is only now, however, with the benefit of hindsight provided by systematic data, that we can see these negative effects in stark detail. New analyses of 220?755 surveys from 40?597 individuals in England, Scotland, and Wales, completed between April 24 and June 11, 2020, as part of University College London's COVID-19 Social Study, show that these events undermined confidence in the government to handle the pandemic specifically"

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of.

i mean that might make sense if i hadnt provided examples before that its like trying to debate with a petulant teenager

You do know he will want the last word

only 34 posts to go

if he picks up my one occasion of counting the number of posts and runs with it like he has end of we might get there soon

(he also seems to think using end of is what made me compare to a petulant teenager missing the fact its the attitude flowing through every post making him look selfish and immature)

I provided a reasoned argument. Happy to requote it here:

"The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional."

It's hardly my fault you don't agree.

The Cummings argument doesn’t stand up.

Public were surveyed and only a tiny tiny percentage cited the Cummings media furore as a reason why they ‘might’ ignore government advice ...

So we are back to you taking responsibility for your own actions/decisions.

Shows a degree of weakness to so easily blame someone/something else for something you are ultimately solely responsible for - personal responsibility.

"Shows a degree of weakness to so easily blame someone/something else for something you are ultimately solely responsible for - personal responsibility."

That sounds a lot like the way Johnson has been deflecting blame away from himself.

Round and round it goes again.

You are dodging the fact your Cummings argument now doesn’t stand up - very johnsonesque

Actually, I was reading. Here's a snippet from the Lancet, talking about he effectt of Cummings' actions:

"It is only now, however, with the benefit of hindsight provided by systematic data, that we can see these negative effects in stark detail. New analyses of 220?755 surveys from 40?597 individuals in England, Scotland, and Wales, completed between April 24 and June 11, 2020, as part of University College London's COVID-19 Social Study, show that these events undermined confidence in the government to handle the pandemic specifically"

i dont even disagree that cummings undermined the government ... of course he does

the issue is where people then extend that to the conclusion it makes it a free for all ... doesn’t anyone have a morale sense of responsibility left or does it need to all be written into law?

when we are in a general election period with no appointed government to be undermined do we all start pillaging and r*ping like a medieval society... of course not because the government arent the only ones that tell us right from wrong ... our conscience should be doing that too

You're rather proving my point for me. The point of law is it's supposed to be absolute. Written in stone, as it were. Cummings' actions hinted to a great many people the lockdown rules were not absolute. That it was ok to interpret the rules as they wished. Potentially leading to the free for all you mention.

"

Durham Constabulary said he didn’t break the law

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over a year ago


"Have a funeral for the turkey in the back garden, as you can have up to 30 guests

Outside the box thinking

It most certainly is out of the box but still wouldn't work.

Why?

Because the 30 people at a funeral has to be at a covid secure place and not in a residential property.

Hmmmm

How do you go about being officially recognised as having a covid secure place ?

Iv no idea but its very clear that it cannot happen in a residential property

So when I go to a serviced apartment (my residence for the period of my stay) - they say they are “covid secure” .....

I’m thinking this line of investigation may have legs ???? "

Oh yes let's all try to find loop holes to break the law.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" Buck stops with our own personal responsibility

Nope. Buck stops with the leader.

See? Round and round it goes. Wheeeee.

It is all down to how we behave as individuals though ... I wouldn't want to be in charge during this unprecedented pandemic

If we all thought with social responsibility and community spirit it would be a lot easier for everybody surely? Why apportion blame? We're all in this together

We're really not all in it together. Cummings' rule-breaking + Johnson's defence of him proved that.

every time i see something about cummings rule breaking i just want to scream grow the F up!!! someone else being a dick does not justify you being a dick from thereon ... in any example in life

The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional.

it only gives you an excuse if you are looking for one ... again someone else being a dick never justifies you being a dick

its like getting cheated on when you were 17 so telling yourself its fine to shag about behind every partner’s back for the rest of your life

your actions are you actions... end of

Stating "end of" doesn't prove any point whatsoever.

PS end of.

no but it demonstrates where i draw the line in terms of my personal responsibility

its less clear to the rest of us where your line is drawn but i suspect as far away from you as possible

i already made my point several times with several examples btw ... but go on chuck out your cumminga story again

Apparently I don't need to use any stories or facts. I can just say end of.

End of.

i mean that might make sense if i hadnt provided examples before that its like trying to debate with a petulant teenager

You do know he will want the last word

only 34 posts to go

if he picks up my one occasion of counting the number of posts and runs with it like he has end of we might get there soon

(he also seems to think using end of is what made me compare to a petulant teenager missing the fact its the attitude flowing through every post making him look selfish and immature)

I provided a reasoned argument. Happy to requote it here:

"The problem is that it gave a lot of people the excuse to break the rules, too. The Cummings incident fundamentally damaged trust in the government at a time when it was crucial. It also fundamentally undermined the message that the rules were absolute, letting people think they were optional."

It's hardly my fault you don't agree.

The Cummings argument doesn’t stand up.

Public were surveyed and only a tiny tiny percentage cited the Cummings media furore as a reason why they ‘might’ ignore government advice ...

So we are back to you taking responsibility for your own actions/decisions.

Shows a degree of weakness to so easily blame someone/something else for something you are ultimately solely responsible for - personal responsibility.

"Shows a degree of weakness to so easily blame someone/something else for something you are ultimately solely responsible for - personal responsibility."

That sounds a lot like the way Johnson has been deflecting blame away from himself.

Round and round it goes again.

You are dodging the fact your Cummings argument now doesn’t stand up - very johnsonesque

Actually, I was reading. Here's a snippet from the Lancet, talking about he effectt of Cummings' actions:

"It is only now, however, with the benefit of hindsight provided by systematic data, that we can see these negative effects in stark detail. New analyses of 220?755 surveys from 40?597 individuals in England, Scotland, and Wales, completed between April 24 and June 11, 2020, as part of University College London's COVID-19 Social Study, show that these events undermined confidence in the government to handle the pandemic specifically"

i dont even disagree that cummings undermined the government ... of course he does

the issue is where people then extend that to the conclusion it makes it a free for all ... doesn’t anyone have a morale sense of responsibility left or does it need to all be written into law?

when we are in a general election period with no appointed government to be undermined do we all start pillaging and r*ping like a medieval society... of course not because the government arent the only ones that tell us right from wrong ... our conscience should be doing that too

You're rather proving my point for me. The point of law is it's supposed to be absolute. Written in stone, as it were. Cummings' actions hinted to a great many people the lockdown rules were not absolute. That it was ok to interpret the rules as they wished. Potentially leading to the free for all you mention.

Durham Constabulary said he didn’t break the law "

Shifting the goalpoasts, eh? I guess that Lancet quote is something you really, really wanna ignore.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have a funeral for the turkey in the back garden, as you can have up to 30 guests

Outside the box thinking

It most certainly is out of the box but still wouldn't work.

Why?

Because the 30 people at a funeral has to be at a covid secure place and not in a residential property.

Hmmmm

How do you go about being officially recognised as having a covid secure place ?

Iv no idea but its very clear that it cannot happen in a residential property

So when I go to a serviced apartment (my residence for the period of my stay) - they say they are “covid secure” .....

I’m thinking this line of investigation may have legs ???? "

it apparently does (maybe not for 30). i have friends going to a lodge this weekend (2house holds) and when the rules changes came in for scotland last night they call to find out about the booking but the govt have said self catering accommodation is not subject to personal residence rules

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

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"Have a funeral for the turkey in the back garden, as you can have up to 30 guests

Outside the box thinking

It most certainly is out of the box but still wouldn't work.

Why?

Because the 30 people at a funeral has to be at a covid secure place and not in a residential property.

Hmmmm

How do you go about being officially recognised as having a covid secure place ?

Iv no idea but its very clear that it cannot happen in a residential property

So when I go to a serviced apartment (my residence for the period of my stay) - they say they are “covid secure” .....

I’m thinking this line of investigation may have legs ????

Oh yes let's all try to find loop holes to break the law. "

You mean something like “oh a government spad allegedly did something which the police said didn’t break the law - so it’s ok for me to not follow the law” type loophole ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have a funeral for the turkey in the back garden, as you can have up to 30 guests

Outside the box thinking

It most certainly is out of the box but still wouldn't work.

Why?

Because the 30 people at a funeral has to be at a covid secure place and not in a residential property.

Hmmmm

How do you go about being officially recognised as having a covid secure place ?

Iv no idea but its very clear that it cannot happen in a residential property

So when I go to a serviced apartment (my residence for the period of my stay) - they say they are “covid secure” .....

I’m thinking this line of investigation may have legs ????

Oh yes let's all try to find loop holes to break the law. "

you realise that is the entire theme of the thread of the poster you have repeatedly defended yet you are stuck on this turkey thing that is clearly a joke

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Have a funeral for the turkey in the back garden, as you can have up to 30 guests

Outside the box thinking

It most certainly is out of the box but still wouldn't work.

Why?

Because the 30 people at a funeral has to be at a covid secure place and not in a residential property.

Hmmmm

How do you go about being officially recognised as having a covid secure place ?

Iv no idea but its very clear that it cannot happen in a residential property

So when I go to a serviced apartment (my residence for the period of my stay) - they say they are “covid secure” .....

I’m thinking this line of investigation may have legs ????

Oh yes let's all try to find loop holes to break the law.

You mean something like “oh a government spad allegedly did something which the police said didn’t break the law - so it’s ok for me to not follow the law” type loophole ??

"

Actually... "Durham constabulary have examined the circumstances surrounding the journey to Barnard Castle (including ANPR [automatic number plate recognition], witness evidence and a review of Mr Cummings’s press conference on 25 May 2020) and have concluded that there might have been a minor breach of the regulations that would have warranted police intervention."

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over a year ago


"Have a funeral for the turkey in the back garden, as you can have up to 30 guests

Outside the box thinking

It most certainly is out of the box but still wouldn't work.

Why?

Because the 30 people at a funeral has to be at a covid secure place and not in a residential property.

Hmmmm

How do you go about being officially recognised as having a covid secure place ?

Iv no idea but its very clear that it cannot happen in a residential property

So when I go to a serviced apartment (my residence for the period of my stay) - they say they are “covid secure” .....

I’m thinking this line of investigation may have legs ????

Oh yes let's all try to find loop holes to break the law.

You mean something like “oh a government spad allegedly did something which the police said didn’t break the law - so it’s ok for me to not follow the law” type loophole ??

"

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