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"SAGE is a bunch of scientists and I doubt they are in unanimous agreement among one another. The government has to decide policy and have chosen to publicise the worst-case scenario. Maybe not the most likely but on the other hand it is a clearer and simpler message then a whole list of different models with different outcomes (which is presumably what SAGE would have discussed). " So not a true representation of the severity then ? Some say this, others say that, but ultimately its agreed that its better to overreact than let people use their common sense. | |||
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"Plan for the worst, that way you are covered in any eventuality. " So just ignore other experts and cast their alternative plans off as rubbish then ? | |||
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"Plan for the worst, that way you are covered in any eventuality. So just ignore other experts and cast their alternative plans off as rubbish then ? " No....as it says, plan for the worst. Dont think I mentioned anywhere to ignore or rubbish other plans....let me check......nope I did not. | |||
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" Some say this, others say that, but ultimately its agreed that its better to overreact than let people use their common sense. " | |||
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"All these recommendations from SAGE seem to be based on a worst case scenario, yet this morning there's been emeritus professors and other experts debunking these findings and providing alternative measures. So which set of experts do we believe ? The handling of this virus has been atrocious based on the government's current scientific information, so is it time for a change ? " Yes change is needed... Not these so called scientists on payroll bandwagon | |||
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"Plan for the worst, that way you are covered in any eventuality. So just ignore other experts and cast their alternative plans off as rubbish then ? " Not sure they said that | |||
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"All these recommendations from SAGE seem to be based on a worst case scenario, yet this morning there's been emeritus professors and other experts debunking these findings and providing alternative measures. So which set of experts do we believe ? The handling of this virus has been atrocious based on the government's current scientific information, so is it time for a change ? " I would posit that your assertion that the government’s atrocious handling is based on government’s current scientific information is way off. There’s no question the handling has been atrocious - how much they have followed the scientific information available to them is highly questionable. I suspect that if they had chosen to follow the advice based on information their scientists were providing more closely to determine their actions, the handling would be a lot less atrocious than it has so far been. | |||
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"All these recommendations from SAGE seem to be based on a worst case scenario, yet this morning there's been emeritus professors and other experts debunking these findings and providing alternative measures. So which set of experts do we believe ? The handling of this virus has been atrocious based on the government's current scientific information, so is it time for a change ? I would posit that your assertion that the government’s atrocious handling is based on government’s current scientific information is way off. There’s no question the handling has been atrocious - how much they have followed the scientific information available to them is highly questionable. I suspect that if they had chosen to follow the advice based on information their scientists were providing more closely to determine their actions, the handling would be a lot less atrocious than it has so far been." Possibly... We will never know. The thing is, whatever any govt puts to its population to follow.... Its only as effective as the choices individuals make. That's on us and not the govt. We could have had, yaweh, Abraham, mohammed, Buddha, indra, cronus and zeus in charge but the great British public demands for its rights to a pint at the dog and duck and a bareback fuck with a random stranger would supercede their collective wisdom. | |||
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" yet this morning there's been emeritus professors and other experts debunking these findings and providing alternative measures. " It's very easy to express an opinion when you won't be held liable when it fuxks up thousands of lives, isn't it | |||
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"Scientists.. Hmm.. It used to be they lived in bunkers under the ground. Now some are being encouraged into the light and aren't sure how to handle it. What we need is proper leadership, a common vision and buy in from the majority. Not to belittle scientists, but they have not added so much value in the last months and we are tinkering around with things now... Groups of 6, groups of 8, limited exposure, wear a mask, don't wear a mask, close at 9, close at 10... and so on. When they have a breakthrough.... Wheel them out again... Until then, stop using them as an excuse for a complete and abject failure of leadership, we know what we have to deal with and we know how we best deal with it.... Limit exposure, limit contacts, better hygiene for hands and surfaces.... Stronger together. " I can see the new mantra now: Limit contacts to Limit exposure and Wash those fucking hands | |||
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"All these recommendations from SAGE seem to be based on a worst case scenario, yet this morning there's been emeritus professors and other experts debunking these findings and providing alternative measures. So which set of experts do we believe ? The handling of this virus has been atrocious based on the government's current scientific information, so is it time for a change ? Yes change is needed... Not these so called scientists on payroll bandwagon " These so called scientists with their so called degrees, and their so called years of so called research, published in so called scientific journals, reviewed by so called peers. | |||
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