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"I have mine booked" Ditto us, a bit earlier than we did last year.. | |||
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"Yep we are also doing flu jabs this year. " | |||
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"I have mine booked Ditto us, a bit earlier than we did last year.." | |||
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"Mines booked for tomorrow, i have one every year. k" | |||
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"Never had one before but I'm going to book one for Friday I think." Go for it You can do it it online. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-people-co-infected-with-flu-and-covid-19-have-far-greater-risk-of-death-12078402 If you can, please get a Flu Injection - it helps you and it helps others. " Moot point Iv had a conversation with a vulnerable today They indeed have been told to get the jab I suggested why ?? My reasoning IF she caught covid she will die Simple flu jab no flu jab covid kills So I suggested she must practice impeccable hygiene If she prevents all risk of contracting covid then their is the same non risk to catching flu And yes an intelligent woman who MUST NOT contract covid CAN implement a safe regime Going for her jab puts her at more risk than continuing her personal covid prevention regime With absolute diligence an individual can avoid flu common cold and covid However to expect the entire world to do so is not reasonable and unless the entire world was meticulous any one who is vulnerable must undertake the mammoth but possible route of self preservation If they take that only route to their saftey then a flu jab is needless | |||
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"My partner has booked his but my surgery hasn't opened the list yet. " Hubby had his Saturday, my practice 3 miles away, haven't opened their list yet either.. | |||
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"Book them quick before the flipping pensioner's get them all. " Only certain people can book one. | |||
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"Ive found that eating raw onions keeps colds away too" Keeps most things away | |||
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"Book them quick before the flipping pensioner's get them all. Only certain people can book one. " I'm not a pensioner and managed to book one, through a Well pharmacy. | |||
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"Ill stick to my homeopathic stuff. Think ive had a cold once in last five years. " A cold and flu are different. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-people-co-infected-with-flu-and-covid-19-have-far-greater-risk-of-death-12078402 If you can, please get a Flu Injection - it helps you and it helps others. " Thanks for this link At the bottom of that page is another Sky story about the fact that the 37 deaths is now the highest daily total since 14 July.... | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-people-co-infected-with-flu-and-covid-19-have-far-greater-risk-of-death-12078402 If you can, please get a Flu Injection - it helps you and it helps others. Moot point Iv had a conversation with a vulnerable today They indeed have been told to get the jab I suggested why ?? My reasoning IF she caught covid she will die Simple flu jab no flu jab covid kills So I suggested she must practice impeccable hygiene If she prevents all risk of contracting covid then their is the same non risk to catching flu And yes an intelligent woman who MUST NOT contract covid CAN implement a safe regime Going for her jab puts her at more risk than continuing her personal covid prevention regime With absolute diligence an individual can avoid flu common cold and covid However to expect the entire world to do so is not reasonable and unless the entire world was meticulous any one who is vulnerable must undertake the mammoth but possible route of self preservation If they take that only route to their saftey then a flu jab is needless " Or you could just mind your own business? | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-people-co-infected-with-flu-and-covid-19-have-far-greater-risk-of-death-12078402 If you can, please get a Flu Injection - it helps you and it helps others. Moot point Iv had a conversation with a vulnerable today They indeed have been told to get the jab I suggested why ?? My reasoning IF she caught covid she will die Simple flu jab no flu jab covid kills So I suggested she must practice impeccable hygiene If she prevents all risk of contracting covid then their is the same non risk to catching flu And yes an intelligent woman who MUST NOT contract covid CAN implement a safe regime Going for her jab puts her at more risk than continuing her personal covid prevention regime With absolute diligence an individual can avoid flu common cold and covid However to expect the entire world to do so is not reasonable and unless the entire world was meticulous any one who is vulnerable must undertake the mammoth but possible route of self preservation If they take that only route to their saftey then a flu jab is needless Or you could just mind your own business?" Actually whether you get flu or not is pretty much out of your control. I'm a bit of a germophobe. I won't touch a door handle, wash my hands regularly etc. But when you go to work in an open plan office and the hero with flu who came into work sitting next to you with a box of tissues is coughing and sneezing... you're fucked. If you are a parent and your kids go to school you get whatever they get. | |||
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"Book them quick before the flipping pensioner's get them all. Only certain people can book one. I'm not a pensioner and managed to book one, through a Well pharmacy. You should only be having one if you are on the list of people who get a free one. " Or you can pay to have one. | |||
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"Book them quick before the flipping pensioner's get them all. Only certain people can book one. I'm not a pensioner and managed to book one, through a Well pharmacy. You should only be having one if you are on the list of people who get a free one. Or you can pay to have one. " Did you not say further up that there is all ready a shortage in boots? So you would rather get in first than make sure that the people most at risk get one. So what clem said is right. | |||
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"Booked in via Tesco. Very reasonable although slots are running out fast. Get them while they are hot. Be the first year I’ve considered it. " What underlying health condition qualified you to receive it? | |||
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"Nah Im ok I've researched vaccines a lot so no thanks. Interesting many who had flu jab last year have been the victims of covid 19. Fact. Surely theres not a connection....of course not our governments never lie to us...If they say it helps it must. Stop being a sheep people and wake up." Must have fucked up my dose as ive not had covid yet. | |||
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"Book them quick before the flipping pensioner's get them all. Only certain people can book one. I'm not a pensioner and managed to book one, through a Well pharmacy. You should only be having one if you are on the list of people who get a free one. " Anybody can pay and get one. | |||
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"Book them quick before the flipping pensioner's get them all. Only certain people can book one. I'm not a pensioner and managed to book one, through a Well pharmacy. You should only be having one if you are on the list of people who get a free one. Or you can pay to have one. Did you not say further up that there is all ready a shortage in boots? So you would rather get in first than make sure that the people most at risk get one. So what clem said is right. " The at risk people have one reserved at their doctors surgery but still some choose to go to the pharmacy. Really the at risk people should got to their GP and those that pay go to the pharmacy. | |||
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"Booked in via Tesco. Very reasonable although slots are running out fast. Get them while they are hot. Be the first year I’ve considered it. What underlying health condition qualified you to receive it?" My £9 payment | |||
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"Book them quick before the flipping pensioner's get them all. Only certain people can book one. I'm not a pensioner and managed to book one, through a Well pharmacy. You should only be having one if you are on the list of people who get a free one. Or you can pay to have one. Did you not say further up that there is all ready a shortage in boots? So you would rather get in first than make sure that the people most at risk get one. So what clem said is right. " Boots website is not taking any bookings for under 65's, they are prioritising elderly people. If I am able to get one and have to pay for it I have every right to do so, just like everyone else who doesn't qualify. I hope that's ok with you. | |||
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"Booked in via Tesco. Very reasonable although slots are running out fast. Get them while they are hot. Be the first year I’ve considered it. What underlying health condition qualified you to receive it? My £9 payment " Sweeeet! Protect the healthy! | |||
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"Book them quick before the flipping pensioner's get them all. Only certain people can book one. I'm not a pensioner and managed to book one, through a Well pharmacy. You should only be having one if you are on the list of people who get a free one. Or you can pay to have one. Did you not say further up that there is all ready a shortage in boots? So you would rather get in first than make sure that the people most at risk get one. So what clem said is right. The at risk people have one reserved at their doctors surgery but still some choose to go to the pharmacy. Really the at risk people should got to their GP and those that pay go to the pharmacy. " You are aware that every year pharmacys help the NHS by administering the flu vaccination to those who are entitled to a free one right? | |||
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"Booked in via Tesco. Very reasonable although slots are running out fast. Get them while they are hot. Be the first year I’ve considered it. What underlying health condition qualified you to receive it? My £9 payment Sweeeet! Protect the healthy! " People without underlying health conditions being vaccinated helps the vulnerable as they won't pass the flu on to them. | |||
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"Booked in via Tesco. Very reasonable although slots are running out fast. Get them while they are hot. Be the first year I’ve considered it. What underlying health condition qualified you to receive it? My £9 payment Sweeeet! Protect the healthy! People without underlying health conditions being vaccinated helps the vulnerable as they won't pass the flu on to them. " Urm but the vulnerable are already being vaccinated. | |||
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"Booked in via Tesco. Very reasonable although slots are running out fast. Get them while they are hot. Be the first year I’ve considered it. What underlying health condition qualified you to receive it? My £9 payment Sweeeet! Protect the healthy! People without underlying health conditions being vaccinated helps the vulnerable as they won't pass the flu on to them. Urm but the vulnerable are already being vaccinated. " Not every vulnerable person can have the jab. My Father can’t because he allergic to egg. A surprisingly large number of people are. | |||
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"Booked in via Tesco. Very reasonable although slots are running out fast. Get them while they are hot. Be the first year I’ve considered it. What underlying health condition qualified you to receive it? My £9 payment Sweeeet! Protect the healthy! People without underlying health conditions being vaccinated helps the vulnerable as they won't pass the flu on to them. Urm but the vulnerable are already being vaccinated. Not every vulnerable person can have the jab. My Father can’t because he allergic to egg. A surprisingly large number of people are. " Yes he can. 20% of the vaccines are egg free. All he has to do is ask his doctor. My neighbours son has been having egg free ones for 2 years as hes allergic. | |||
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"Booked in via Tesco. Very reasonable although slots are running out fast. Get them while they are hot. Be the first year I’ve considered it. What underlying health condition qualified you to receive it? My £9 payment Sweeeet! Protect the healthy! People without underlying health conditions being vaccinated helps the vulnerable as they won't pass the flu on to them. Urm but the vulnerable are already being vaccinated. Not every vulnerable person can have the jab. My Father can’t because he allergic to egg. A surprisingly large number of people are. Yes he can. 20% of the vaccines are egg free. All he has to do is ask his doctor. My neighbours son has been having egg free ones for 2 years as hes allergic. " Probably go with his doctors advice on this one. | |||
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"Booked in via Tesco. Very reasonable although slots are running out fast. Get them while they are hot. Be the first year I’ve considered it. What underlying health condition qualified you to receive it? My £9 payment Sweeeet! Protect the healthy! People without underlying health conditions being vaccinated helps the vulnerable as they won't pass the flu on to them. Urm but the vulnerable are already being vaccinated. Not every vulnerable person can have the jab. My Father can’t because he allergic to egg. A surprisingly large number of people are. Yes he can. 20% of the vaccines are egg free. All he has to do is ask his doctor. My neighbours son has been having egg free ones for 2 years as hes allergic. Probably go with his doctors advice on this one. " Yes he should and that is that he has one. Look it up. They were licensed in the UK last year after trials which my friends son was on hence why he's had it 2 years running. | |||
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"Booked in via Tesco. Very reasonable although slots are running out fast. Get them while they are hot. Be the first year I’ve considered it. What underlying health condition qualified you to receive it? My £9 payment Sweeeet! Protect the healthy! People without underlying health conditions being vaccinated helps the vulnerable as they won't pass the flu on to them. Urm but the vulnerable are already being vaccinated. Not every vulnerable person can have the jab. My Father can’t because he allergic to egg. A surprisingly large number of people are. Yes he can. 20% of the vaccines are egg free. All he has to do is ask his doctor. My neighbours son has been having egg free ones for 2 years as hes allergic. Probably go with his doctors advice on this one. Yes he should and that is that he has one. Look it up. They were licensed in the UK last year after trials which my friends son was on hence why he's had it 2 years running. " Doctors said he can’t have one. | |||
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"Nah Im ok I've researched vaccines a lot so no thanks. Interesting many who had flu jab last year have been the victims of covid 19. Fact. Surely theres not a connection....of course not our governments never lie to us...If they say it helps it must. Stop being a sheep people and wake up." People who have the flu jab have it for a reason, they will have respiratory or other health problems that are made worse by flu that could kill them. The link is simple COVID will do the same. If you get a REAL dose of the flu you will be that bad you won't get out of bed for anything. | |||
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"Nah Im ok I've researched vaccines a lot so no thanks. Interesting many who had flu jab last year have been the victims of covid 19. Fact. Surely theres not a connection....of course not our governments never lie to us...If they say it helps it must. Stop being a sheep people and wake up." What do you think of the Polio vaccine? | |||
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"Ive found that eating raw onions keeps colds away too" True so I have been told. Hot ribena full of vit c | |||
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" I'm a bit of a germophobe. I won't touch a door handle, wash my hands regularly etc. But when you go to work in an open plan office and the hero with flu who came into work sitting next to you with a box of tissues is coughing and sneezing... you're fucked. " If you're working in an office today where that is tolerated then you desperately need a new job and the local EHO needs to be having a word with your ex employer. Our number one office rule since all this started : If you are sick or think might be getting sick with anything, STAY THE F**K AT HOME. Any employer not doing that is asking for trouble. | |||
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"Ive found that eating raw onions keeps colds away tooTrue so I have been told. Hot ribena full of vit c" I have started to supplement my Vit D. And plan on Vit C supplements now. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-people-co-infected-with-flu-and-covid-19-have-far-greater-risk-of-death-12078402 If you can, please get a Flu Injection - it helps you and it helps others. " Nope. I've heard too many people wasted for weeks after it. | |||
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"Ill stick to my homeopathic stuff. Think ive had a cold once in last five years. " | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-people-co-infected-with-flu-and-covid-19-have-far-greater-risk-of-death-12078402 If you can, please get a Flu Injection - it helps you and it helps others. " Totally disagree, grandparents took the vaccine twice ladt year. Worst year ever with colds. NOT ALL THE BODIES ARE THE SAME | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-people-co-infected-with-flu-and-covid-19-have-far-greater-risk-of-death-12078402 If you can, please get a Flu Injection - it helps you and it helps others. Totally disagree, grandparents took the vaccine twice ladt year. Worst year ever with colds. NOT ALL THE BODIES ARE THE SAME " But the flu vaccination doesn't stop you getting colds, it only stops you getting certain flu strains. I'd rather have a bad cold then the flu. | |||
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"My GP surgery has informed me I will be called in for my annual Flu Jab sometime next month. I've been having the annual jab for 6 years." Have you experienced any side effects? | |||
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"My GP surgery has informed me I will be called in for my annual Flu Jab sometime next month. I've been having the annual jab for 6 years. Have you experienced any side effects? " Never. Why do you ask? | |||
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"My GP surgery has informed me I will be called in for my annual Flu Jab sometime next month. I've been having the annual jab for 6 years. Have you experienced any side effects? Never. Why do you ask?" Because I was speaking about it today and they said they felt dreadful for about a week after. A sort of Nauseous feeling. It’s not the first time I have heard it to be honest. Just wondering whether many people get that? | |||
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"My GP surgery has informed me I will be called in for my annual Flu Jab sometime next month. I've been having the annual jab for 6 years. Have you experienced any side effects? Never. Why do you ask? Because I was speaking about it today and they said they felt dreadful for about a week after. A sort of Nauseous feeling. It’s not the first time I have heard it to be honest. Just wondering whether many people get that? " It can affect some people for a short period after the jab is given, but generally, doctors and health experts around the world say the Flu Jab is hugely successful and those numbers suffering side effects are relatively low, plus the after effects only last for a few days. | |||
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"My GP surgery has informed me I will be called in for my annual Flu Jab sometime next month. I've been having the annual jab for 6 years. Have you experienced any side effects? Never. Why do you ask? Because I was speaking about it today and they said they felt dreadful for about a week after. A sort of Nauseous feeling. It’s not the first time I have heard it to be honest. Just wondering whether many people get that? It can affect some people for a short period after the jab is given, but generally, doctors and health experts around the world say the Flu Jab is hugely successful and those numbers suffering side effects are relatively low, plus the after effects only last for a few days." Good to know. Feeling nauseous and breathless plays havoc with my asthma. Cheers. | |||
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" Because I was speaking about it today and they said they felt dreadful for about a week after. A sort of Nauseous feeling. It’s not the first time I have heard it to be honest. Just wondering whether many people get that? " I have had the flu jab for 9 years and I have never had any side effects whatsoever. | |||
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" Because I was speaking about it today and they said they felt dreadful for about a week after. A sort of Nauseous feeling. It’s not the first time I have heard it to be honest. Just wondering whether many people get that? I have had the flu jab for 9 years and I have never had any side effects whatsoever. " Same iv had it for 5 years and not had any issues except a slightly achy arm for a few hours. | |||
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"My GP surgery has informed me I will be called in for my annual Flu Jab sometime next month. I've been having the annual jab for 6 years. Have you experienced any side effects? Never. Why do you ask? Because I was speaking about it today and they said they felt dreadful for about a week after. A sort of Nauseous feeling. It’s not the first time I have heard it to be honest. Just wondering whether many people get that? It can affect some people for a short period after the jab is given, but generally, doctors and health experts around the world say the Flu Jab is hugely successful and those numbers suffering side effects are relatively low, plus the after effects only last for a few days. Good to know. Feeling nauseous and breathless plays havoc with my asthma. Cheers. " I have underlying health conditions albeit well under control. But for years before having the Flu Jab, I suffered really badly from what had been diagnosed for years as Asthma and resultant Flu. It got so bad, that twice, I was hospitalised for 8-9 days each time to stabilise my condition. Fortunately, a doctor recognised my condition as being apart from Asthma and resolved it, but the underlying Diabetes meant I was put onto the Flu Jab. Since then, I've been free of Flu each year. It works so well for a lot of people. | |||
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" Because I was speaking about it today and they said they felt dreadful for about a week after. A sort of Nauseous feeling. It’s not the first time I have heard it to be honest. Just wondering whether many people get that? I have had the flu jab for 9 years and I have never had any side effects whatsoever. Same iv had it for 5 years and not had any issues except a slightly achy arm for a few hours. " Same here | |||
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"My GP surgery has informed me I will be called in for my annual Flu Jab sometime next month. I've been having the annual jab for 6 years. Have you experienced any side effects? Never. Why do you ask? Because I was speaking about it today and they said they felt dreadful for about a week after. A sort of Nauseous feeling. It’s not the first time I have heard it to be honest. Just wondering whether many people get that? It can affect some people for a short period after the jab is given, but generally, doctors and health experts around the world say the Flu Jab is hugely successful and those numbers suffering side effects are relatively low, plus the after effects only last for a few days. Good to know. Feeling nauseous and breathless plays havoc with my asthma. Cheers. " I have one every year and have never experienced any side effects. | |||
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"Booked in via Tesco. Very reasonable although slots are running out fast. Get them while they are hot. Be the first year I’ve considered it. What underlying health condition qualified you to receive it? My £9 payment Sweeeet! Protect the healthy! People without underlying health conditions being vaccinated helps the vulnerable as they won't pass the flu on to them. Urm but the vulnerable are already being vaccinated. Not every vulnerable person can have the jab. My Father can’t because he allergic to egg. A surprisingly large number of people are. " Does the nasal spray version have egg in it? | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-people-co-infected-with-flu-and-covid-19-have-far-greater-risk-of-death-12078402 If you can, please get a Flu Injection - it helps you and it helps others. Totally disagree, grandparents took the vaccine twice ladt year. Worst year ever with colds. NOT ALL THE BODIES ARE THE SAME But the flu vaccination doesn't stop you getting colds, it only stops you getting certain flu strains. I'd rather have a bad cold then the flu. " Yes. Last year's flu strains. | |||
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"Booked in via Tesco. Very reasonable although slots are running out fast. Get them while they are hot. Be the first year I’ve considered it. What underlying health condition qualified you to receive it? My £9 payment Sweeeet! Protect the healthy! People without underlying health conditions being vaccinated helps the vulnerable as they won't pass the flu on to them. Urm but the vulnerable are already being vaccinated. Not every vulnerable person can have the jab. My Father can’t because he allergic to egg. A surprisingly large number of people are. Does the nasal spray version have egg in it?" Not sure it’s all new to me I didn’t even know you could have a nasal spray. Just know he’s got a very bad heart and lungs so he was told not to have the flu vaccine after the reaction he had last time. | |||
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"Got my Jab in a fortnight at my docs Took early retirement so im lucky " What does early retirement have to do with the flu jab ? | |||
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"Book them quick before the flipping pensioner's get them all. Only certain people can book one. I'm not a pensioner and managed to book one, through a Well pharmacy. You should only be having one if you are on the list of people who get a free one. Or you can pay to have one. Did you not say further up that there is all ready a shortage in boots? So you would rather get in first than make sure that the people most at risk get one. So what clem said is right. Boots website is not taking any bookings for under 65's, they are prioritising elderly people. If I am able to get one and have to pay for it I have every right to do so, just like everyone else who doesn't qualify. I hope that's ok with you." I have mine booked at Boots as does my other half. | |||
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"Fyi no vaccinations left at Boots." They have applied for new stock. | |||
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"Good to know. Feeling nauseous and breathless plays havoc with my asthma. Cheers. " As an asthmatic I'll say this. A little bit of uncomfortableness with nausea and breathlessness (if it happens) if rlfar better than having flu. I had a couple of years where I didn't have my flu jab... Got flu, ended up hospitalised... Had my flu jab ever since despite a full on panic/trauma/phobia of needles. I'd rather go through that than have to be admitted to hospital because of flu again. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-people-co-infected-with-flu-and-covid-19-have-far-greater-risk-of-death-12078402 If you can, please get a Flu Injection - it helps you and it helps others. Moot point Iv had a conversation with a vulnerable today They indeed have been told to get the jab I suggested why ?? My reasoning IF she caught covid she will die Simple flu jab no flu jab covid kills So I suggested she must practice impeccable hygiene If she prevents all risk of contracting covid then their is the same non risk to catching flu And yes an intelligent woman who MUST NOT contract covid CAN implement a safe regime Going for her jab puts her at more risk than continuing her personal covid prevention regime With absolute diligence an individual can avoid flu common cold and covid However to expect the entire world to do so is not reasonable and unless the entire world was meticulous any one who is vulnerable must undertake the mammoth but possible route of self preservation If they take that only route to their saftey then a flu jab is needless Or you could just mind your own business?" Erm family friend of over 40 years erm we chat about stuff it was a conversation not a "YOU SHOULD" I'm mooting the logic for reasoned discussions not making recommendations | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-people-co-infected-with-flu-and-covid-19-have-far-greater-risk-of-death-12078402 If you can, please get a Flu Injection - it helps you and it helps others. Totally disagree, grandparents took the vaccine twice ladt year. Worst year ever with colds. NOT ALL THE BODIES ARE THE SAME But the flu vaccination doesn't stop you getting colds, it only stops you getting certain flu strains. I'd rather have a bad cold then the flu. Yes. Last year's flu strains. " | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-people-co-infected-with-flu-and-covid-19-have-far-greater-risk-of-death-12078402 If you can, please get a Flu Injection - it helps you and it helps others. Moot point Iv had a conversation with a vulnerable today They indeed have been told to get the jab I suggested why ?? My reasoning IF she caught covid she will die Simple flu jab no flu jab covid kills So I suggested she must practice impeccable hygiene If she prevents all risk of contracting covid then their is the same non risk to catching flu And yes an intelligent woman who MUST NOT contract covid CAN implement a safe regime Going for her jab puts her at more risk than continuing her personal covid prevention regime With absolute diligence an individual can avoid flu common cold and covid However to expect the entire world to do so is not reasonable and unless the entire world was meticulous any one who is vulnerable must undertake the mammoth but possible route of self preservation If they take that only route to their saftey then a flu jab is needless Or you could just mind your own business? Actually whether you get flu or not is pretty much out of your control. I'm a bit of a germophobe. I won't touch a door handle, wash my hands regularly etc. But when you go to work in an open plan office and the hero with flu who came into work sitting next to you with a box of tissues is coughing and sneezing... you're fucked. If you are a parent and your kids go to school you get whatever they get." This is NOT true now we are in covid land Risking anothers virus is now not acceptable or safe If a vulnerable contracts covid they die The vulnerable cannot rely upon society to keep them safe There is no vaccine for covid Thus if the vulnerable does not want to contract covid they need to be meticulous with their preventative measures No contact no close contact with grand children no going closer than 3 meters . Impeccable hand Hygine no touching door handles frames Going to pubs etc If practiced as necessary then both cov and influenza and the cold are transmitted via exactly the same pathways The ONLY way to protect yourself from covid is to METICULOUSLY protect yourself from covid everything else is hope and guess not good enough when your life is on the line By simple logic if you protect yourself effectively from cov 19 you have zero risk of influenza Ironically Going for the flu jab could plausibility be the single chink in ones protecting armour where the shielding vulnerable may statically be putting their exposure to covid higher than them staying clear of places with close contact humans | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-people-co-infected-with-flu-and-covid-19-have-far-greater-risk-of-death-12078402 If you can, please get a Flu Injection - it helps you and it helps others. Moot point Iv had a conversation with a vulnerable today They indeed have been told to get the jab I suggested why ?? My reasoning IF she caught covid she will die Simple flu jab no flu jab covid kills So I suggested she must practice impeccable hygiene If she prevents all risk of contracting covid then their is the same non risk to catching flu And yes an intelligent woman who MUST NOT contract covid CAN implement a safe regime Going for her jab puts her at more risk than continuing her personal covid prevention regime With absolute diligence an individual can avoid flu common cold and covid However to expect the entire world to do so is not reasonable and unless the entire world was meticulous any one who is vulnerable must undertake the mammoth but possible route of self preservation If they take that only route to their saftey then a flu jab is needless Or you could just mind your own business? Actually whether you get flu or not is pretty much out of your control. I'm a bit of a germophobe. I won't touch a door handle, wash my hands regularly etc. But when you go to work in an open plan office and the hero with flu who came into work sitting next to you with a box of tissues is coughing and sneezing... you're fucked. If you are a parent and your kids go to school you get whatever they get. This is NOT true now we are in covid land Risking anothers virus is now not acceptable or safe If a vulnerable contracts covid they die The vulnerable cannot rely upon society to keep them safe There is no vaccine for covid Thus if the vulnerable does not want to contract covid they need to be meticulous with their preventative measures No contact no close contact with grand children no going closer than 3 meters . Impeccable hand Hygine no touching door handles frames Going to pubs etc If practiced as necessary then both cov and influenza and the cold are transmitted via exactly the same pathways The ONLY way to protect yourself from covid is to METICULOUSLY protect yourself from covid everything else is hope and guess not good enough when your life is on the line By simple logic if you protect yourself effectively from cov 19 you have zero risk of influenza Ironically Going for the flu jab could plausibility be the single chink in ones protecting armour where the shielding vulnerable may statically be putting their exposure to covid higher than them staying clear of places with close contact humans " So what I've said isn't true? Well lots of words but no actual reason why what I have said isn't true. If you are ar work and your coworker is coughing and sneezing over you do you think METICULOUS handwashing will save you? If your kids come home from school with Covid-19, what are you going to do? Keep them in the shed and leave food for them outside the door? If a vulnerable person goes out to buy food or other essentials and someone coughs on them they have no way of preventing that. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-people-co-infected-with-flu-and-covid-19-have-far-greater-risk-of-death-12078402 If you can, please get a Flu Injection - it helps you and it helps others. Moot point Iv had a conversation with a vulnerable today They indeed have been told to get the jab I suggested why ?? My reasoning IF she caught covid she will die Simple flu jab no flu jab covid kills So I suggested she must practice impeccable hygiene If she prevents all risk of contracting covid then their is the same non risk to catching flu And yes an intelligent woman who MUST NOT contract covid CAN implement a safe regime Going for her jab puts her at more risk than continuing her personal covid prevention regime With absolute diligence an individual can avoid flu common cold and covid However to expect the entire world to do so is not reasonable and unless the entire world was meticulous any one who is vulnerable must undertake the mammoth but possible route of self preservation If they take that only route to their saftey then a flu jab is needless Or you could just mind your own business? Actually whether you get flu or not is pretty much out of your control. I'm a bit of a germophobe. I won't touch a door handle, wash my hands regularly etc. But when you go to work in an open plan office and the hero with flu who came into work sitting next to you with a box of tissues is coughing and sneezing... you're fucked. If you are a parent and your kids go to school you get whatever they get. This is NOT true now we are in covid land Risking anothers virus is now not acceptable or safe If a vulnerable contracts covid they die The vulnerable cannot rely upon society to keep them safe There is no vaccine for covid Thus if the vulnerable does not want to contract covid they need to be meticulous with their preventative measures No contact no close contact with grand children no going closer than 3 meters . Impeccable hand Hygine no touching door handles frames Going to pubs etc If practiced as necessary then both cov and influenza and the cold are transmitted via exactly the same pathways The ONLY way to protect yourself from covid is to METICULOUSLY protect yourself from covid everything else is hope and guess not good enough when your life is on the line By simple logic if you protect yourself effectively from cov 19 you have zero risk of influenza Ironically Going for the flu jab could plausibility be the single chink in ones protecting armour where the shielding vulnerable may statically be putting their exposure to covid higher than them staying clear of places with close contact humans So what I've said isn't true? Well lots of words but no actual reason why what I have said isn't true. If you are ar work and your coworker is coughing and sneezing over you do you think METICULOUS handwashing will save you? If your kids come home from school with Covid-19, what are you going to do? Keep them in the shed and leave food for them outside the door? If a vulnerable person goes out to buy food or other essentials and someone coughs on them they have no way of preventing that." dont think you're taking the risk of covid seriously?? It kills a vulnerable person If it were Ebola or SARS 1 Would you really suggest risking work or looking after kids ??? If a vulnerable must go shopping they MUST ensure anyone who does cough SARS onto them that they have an effective solution to ensure the errors of others cannot kill them Sarrs is out there it kills if you dont want to die you cannot rely on humanity the vulnerable or anyone who does not want to catch it must ensure they cannot The sad fact is if a vulnerable does not want to risk dieing they will have to limit their freedoms and can never be close to their children again A flu jab is negated by default Going to get the jab could plausibility give them covid I was clear I said your statement of catching colds from others was certainly true pre covid however this virus is so dangerous that one cannot risk the environments or situations where covid may be and that's the only way flu can be caught IF one protects oneself EFFECTIVELY for covid once will not need the flu protection If one is at risk of catching flu and vulnerable they they WILL eventually catch covid and die It's just a harsh reality Bubbles and masks do not stop covid only slow it It's there for any child to spread and thus no contact A damn damn damn miserable existence | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-people-co-infected-with-flu-and-covid-19-have-far-greater-risk-of-death-12078402 If you can, please get a Flu Injection - it helps you and it helps others. Moot point Iv had a conversation with a vulnerable today They indeed have been told to get the jab I suggested why ?? My reasoning IF she caught covid she will die Simple flu jab no flu jab covid kills So I suggested she must practice impeccable hygiene If she prevents all risk of contracting covid then their is the same non risk to catching flu And yes an intelligent woman who MUST NOT contract covid CAN implement a safe regime Going for her jab puts her at more risk than continuing her personal covid prevention regime With absolute diligence an individual can avoid flu common cold and covid However to expect the entire world to do so is not reasonable and unless the entire world was meticulous any one who is vulnerable must undertake the mammoth but possible route of self preservation If they take that only route to their saftey then a flu jab is needless Or you could just mind your own business? Actually whether you get flu or not is pretty much out of your control. I'm a bit of a germophobe. I won't touch a door handle, wash my hands regularly etc. But when you go to work in an open plan office and the hero with flu who came into work sitting next to you with a box of tissues is coughing and sneezing... you're fucked. If you are a parent and your kids go to school you get whatever they get. This is NOT true now we are in covid land Risking anothers virus is now not acceptable or safe If a vulnerable contracts covid they die The vulnerable cannot rely upon society to keep them safe There is no vaccine for covid Thus if the vulnerable does not want to contract covid they need to be meticulous with their preventative measures No contact no close contact with grand children no going closer than 3 meters . Impeccable hand Hygine no touching door handles frames Going to pubs etc If practiced as necessary then both cov and influenza and the cold are transmitted via exactly the same pathways The ONLY way to protect yourself from covid is to METICULOUSLY protect yourself from covid everything else is hope and guess not good enough when your life is on the line By simple logic if you protect yourself effectively from cov 19 you have zero risk of influenza Ironically Going for the flu jab could plausibility be the single chink in ones protecting armour where the shielding vulnerable may statically be putting their exposure to covid higher than them staying clear of places with close contact humans So what I've said isn't true? Well lots of words but no actual reason why what I have said isn't true. If you are ar work and your coworker is coughing and sneezing over you do you think METICULOUS handwashing will save you? If your kids come home from school with Covid-19, what are you going to do? Keep them in the shed and leave food for them outside the door? If a vulnerable person goes out to buy food or other essentials and someone coughs on them they have no way of preventing that. dont think you're taking the risk of covid seriously?? It kills a vulnerable person If it were Ebola or SARS 1 Would you really suggest risking work or looking after kids ??? If a vulnerable must go shopping they MUST ensure anyone who does cough SARS onto them that they have an effective solution to ensure the errors of others cannot kill them Sarrs is out there it kills if you dont want to die you cannot rely on humanity the vulnerable or anyone who does not want to catch it must ensure they cannot The sad fact is if a vulnerable does not want to risk dieing they will have to limit their freedoms and can never be close to their children again A flu jab is negated by default Going to get the jab could plausibility give them covid I was clear I said your statement of catching colds from others was certainly true pre covid however this virus is so dangerous that one cannot risk the environments or situations where covid may be and that's the only way flu can be caught IF one protects oneself EFFECTIVELY for covid once will not need the flu protection If one is at risk of catching flu and vulnerable they they WILL eventually catch covid and die It's just a harsh reality Bubbles and masks do not stop covid only slow it It's there for any child to spread and thus no contact A damn damn damn miserable existence " Awwww bless ya. When I first posted on this in January there wasn't even a thread for this iteration of covid, just one that was a year old. Since then I have been called a conspiracy nut, a scaremongerer and a bullshitter because I thought Covid-19 was serious. So thanks for saying I don't appreciate the seriousness of Covid-19. It's a welcome relief. I've asked two questions: 1) If you are at the shops, work or wherever how are you supposed to stop someone who does not social distance from coughing all over you? Are you suggesting a Chuck Norris roundhouse kick for anyone who comes within 2 meters? If so you may catch Covid-19 from your arresting officer. 2) If you have children and don't want to die of Covid-19 what do you propose? Putting them on ebay? Putting them up for adoption? Killing them and claiming self defence? What is this immediate solution for if someone coughs on you in the shops? Immediately douse yourself in bleach? But yes you highlight the problem. It seems to be the responsibility of the uninfected to live an impractical life rather than the possibly infected to behave responsibly. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-people-co-infected-with-flu-and-covid-19-have-far-greater-risk-of-death-12078402 If you can, please get a Flu Injection - it helps you and it helps others. Moot point Iv had a conversation with a vulnerable today They indeed have been told to get the jab I suggested why ?? My reasoning IF she caught covid she will die Simple flu jab no flu jab covid kills So I suggested she must practice impeccable hygiene If she prevents all risk of contracting covid then their is the same non risk to catching flu And yes an intelligent woman who MUST NOT contract covid CAN implement a safe regime Going for her jab puts her at more risk than continuing her personal covid prevention regime With absolute diligence an individual can avoid flu common cold and covid However to expect the entire world to do so is not reasonable and unless the entire world was meticulous any one who is vulnerable must undertake the mammoth but possible route of self preservation If they take that only route to their saftey then a flu jab is needless Or you could just mind your own business? Actually whether you get flu or not is pretty much out of your control. I'm a bit of a germophobe. I won't touch a door handle, wash my hands regularly etc. But when you go to work in an open plan office and the hero with flu who came into work sitting next to you with a box of tissues is coughing and sneezing... you're fucked. If you are a parent and your kids go to school you get whatever they get. This is NOT true now we are in covid land Risking anothers virus is now not acceptable or safe If a vulnerable contracts covid they die The vulnerable cannot rely upon society to keep them safe There is no vaccine for covid Thus if the vulnerable does not want to contract covid they need to be meticulous with their preventative measures No contact no close contact with grand children no going closer than 3 meters . Impeccable hand Hygine no touching door handles frames Going to pubs etc If practiced as necessary then both cov and influenza and the cold are transmitted via exactly the same pathways The ONLY way to protect yourself from covid is to METICULOUSLY protect yourself from covid everything else is hope and guess not good enough when your life is on the line By simple logic if you protect yourself effectively from cov 19 you have zero risk of influenza Ironically Going for the flu jab could plausibility be the single chink in ones protecting armour where the shielding vulnerable may statically be putting their exposure to covid higher than them staying clear of places with close contact humans So what I've said isn't true? Well lots of words but no actual reason why what I have said isn't true. If you are ar work and your coworker is coughing and sneezing over you do you think METICULOUS handwashing will save you? If your kids come home from school with Covid-19, what are you going to do? Keep them in the shed and leave food for them outside the door? If a vulnerable person goes out to buy food or other essentials and someone coughs on them they have no way of preventing that. dont think you're taking the risk of covid seriously?? It kills a vulnerable person If it were Ebola or SARS 1 Would you really suggest risking work or looking after kids ??? If a vulnerable must go shopping they MUST ensure anyone who does cough SARS onto them that they have an effective solution to ensure the errors of others cannot kill them Sarrs is out there it kills if you dont want to die you cannot rely on humanity the vulnerable or anyone who does not want to catch it must ensure they cannot The sad fact is if a vulnerable does not want to risk dieing they will have to limit their freedoms and can never be close to their children again A flu jab is negated by default Going to get the jab could plausibility give them covid I was clear I said your statement of catching colds from others was certainly true pre covid however this virus is so dangerous that one cannot risk the environments or situations where covid may be and that's the only way flu can be caught IF one protects oneself EFFECTIVELY for covid once will not need the flu protection If one is at risk of catching flu and vulnerable they they WILL eventually catch covid and die It's just a harsh reality Bubbles and masks do not stop covid only slow it It's there for any child to spread and thus no contact A damn damn damn miserable existence Awwww bless ya. When I first posted on this in January there wasn't even a thread for this iteration of covid, just one that was a year old. Since then I have been called a conspiracy nut, a scaremongerer and a bullshitter because I thought Covid-19 was serious. So thanks for saying I don't appreciate the seriousness of Covid-19. It's a welcome relief. I've asked two questions: 1) If you are at the shops, work or wherever how are you supposed to stop someone who does not social distance from coughing all over you? Are you suggesting a Chuck Norris roundhouse kick for anyone who comes within 2 meters? If so you may catch Covid-19 from your arresting officer. 2) If you have children and don't want to die of Covid-19 what do you propose? Putting them on ebay? Putting them up for adoption? Killing them and claiming self defence? What is this immediate solution for if someone coughs on you in the shops? Immediately douse yourself in bleach? But yes you highlight the problem. It seems to be the responsibility of the uninfected to live an impractical life rather than the possibly infected to behave responsibly." I know you take it seriously I was being a tad flippant I did answer you just dont like the coldness of the reality you also miss understand that I fully support everyone trying to reduce the spread But that's the fact I'm trying to illustrate We can want everyone to comply Want rant all we like It does not change the reality nor my point I suggested that for a vulnerable the flu jab is academic, possibly less valuable than it opens another Avenue to catch When I go into a shop I assume it's full of both covid and the flu I assume everyone has both I would prefer not to I would prefer no one cough their covid over me But you rightly say it is they do If you are a vulnerable you could only catch flu if you had let guard down If you let your guard down you will catch covid I dont want that but we cant change that If we could change that then again we would be protected from flu equally as we would covid and until something changes that's not happening You seem to feel that me illustrating that vulnerable people MUST effectively protect themselves is suggesting I dont think everyone else should try their best and collaborate,that's incorrect I only matter of fact illustrate that until everyone in the world practices exceptionally strict hygiene and stops intermingling and touching things that the vulnerable will have to assume every surface they touch has covid and every human they meet inc kids or grand kids has slipped up and has a killer virus Solution Erm there is non If a vulnerable goes out and goes close to another human and is coughed on they will die of covid My musing is not about covid Or how a vulnerable should act Only that taking the flu vaccine is theoretically less beneficial than it appears AND possibly because of the need to be close to another human in an environment known to attract the unwell it possibly could be counterproductive I see it like this There is killer shark infested water with jelly fish I love surfing and hate jellyfish stings I can get a shot preventing the stings if I swim 100 through the sharks and jelly fish I'm going to chose not to surf not the jab | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-people-co-infected-with-flu-and-covid-19-have-far-greater-risk-of-death-12078402 If you can, please get a Flu Injection - it helps you and it helps others. Moot point Iv had a conversation with a vulnerable today They indeed have been told to get the jab I suggested why ?? My reasoning IF she caught covid she will die Simple flu jab no flu jab covid kills So I suggested she must practice impeccable hygiene If she prevents all risk of contracting covid then their is the same non risk to catching flu And yes an intelligent woman who MUST NOT contract covid CAN implement a safe regime Going for her jab puts her at more risk than continuing her personal covid prevention regime With absolute diligence an individual can avoid flu common cold and covid However to expect the entire world to do so is not reasonable and unless the entire world was meticulous any one who is vulnerable must undertake the mammoth but possible route of self preservation If they take that only route to their saftey then a flu jab is needless Or you could just mind your own business? Actually whether you get flu or not is pretty much out of your control. I'm a bit of a germophobe. I won't touch a door handle, wash my hands regularly etc. But when you go to work in an open plan office and the hero with flu who came into work sitting next to you with a box of tissues is coughing and sneezing... you're fucked. If you are a parent and your kids go to school you get whatever they get. This is NOT true now we are in covid land Risking anothers virus is now not acceptable or safe If a vulnerable contracts covid they die The vulnerable cannot rely upon society to keep them safe There is no vaccine for covid Thus if the vulnerable does not want to contract covid they need to be meticulous with their preventative measures No contact no close contact with grand children no going closer than 3 meters . Impeccable hand Hygine no touching door handles frames Going to pubs etc If practiced as necessary then both cov and influenza and the cold are transmitted via exactly the same pathways The ONLY way to protect yourself from covid is to METICULOUSLY protect yourself from covid everything else is hope and guess not good enough when your life is on the line By simple logic if you protect yourself effectively from cov 19 you have zero risk of influenza Ironically Going for the flu jab could plausibility be the single chink in ones protecting armour where the shielding vulnerable may statically be putting their exposure to covid higher than them staying clear of places with close contact humans So what I've said isn't true? Well lots of words but no actual reason why what I have said isn't true. If you are ar work and your coworker is coughing and sneezing over you do you think METICULOUS handwashing will save you? If your kids come home from school with Covid-19, what are you going to do? Keep them in the shed and leave food for them outside the door? If a vulnerable person goes out to buy food or other essentials and someone coughs on them they have no way of preventing that. dont think you're taking the risk of covid seriously?? It kills a vulnerable person If it were Ebola or SARS 1 Would you really suggest risking work or looking after kids ??? If a vulnerable must go shopping they MUST ensure anyone who does cough SARS onto them that they have an effective solution to ensure the errors of others cannot kill them Sarrs is out there it kills if you dont want to die you cannot rely on humanity the vulnerable or anyone who does not want to catch it must ensure they cannot The sad fact is if a vulnerable does not want to risk dieing they will have to limit their freedoms and can never be close to their children again A flu jab is negated by default Going to get the jab could plausibility give them covid I was clear I said your statement of catching colds from others was certainly true pre covid however this virus is so dangerous that one cannot risk the environments or situations where covid may be and that's the only way flu can be caught IF one protects oneself EFFECTIVELY for covid once will not need the flu protection If one is at risk of catching flu and vulnerable they they WILL eventually catch covid and die It's just a harsh reality Bubbles and masks do not stop covid only slow it It's there for any child to spread and thus no contact A damn damn damn miserable existence Awwww bless ya. When I first posted on this in January there wasn't even a thread for this iteration of covid, just one that was a year old. Since then I have been called a conspiracy nut, a scaremongerer and a bullshitter because I thought Covid-19 was serious. So thanks for saying I don't appreciate the seriousness of Covid-19. It's a welcome relief. I've asked two questions: 1) If you are at the shops, work or wherever how are you supposed to stop someone who does not social distance from coughing all over you? Are you suggesting a Chuck Norris roundhouse kick for anyone who comes within 2 meters? If so you may catch Covid-19 from your arresting officer. 2) If you have children and don't want to die of Covid-19 what do you propose? Putting them on ebay? Putting them up for adoption? Killing them and claiming self defence? What is this immediate solution for if someone coughs on you in the shops? Immediately douse yourself in bleach? But yes you highlight the problem. It seems to be the responsibility of the uninfected to live an impractical life rather than the possibly infected to behave responsibly." As for the children exactly what to do So you get covid you die You let the children out eventually even if the world behaved they would catch it What you going to do keep them inside ? It's an impossible situation | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-people-co-infected-with-flu-and-covid-19-have-far-greater-risk-of-death-12078402 If you can, please get a Flu Injection - it helps you and it helps others. Moot point Iv had a conversation with a vulnerable today They indeed have been told to get the jab I suggested why ?? My reasoning IF she caught covid she will die Simple flu jab no flu jab covid kills So I suggested she must practice impeccable hygiene If she prevents all risk of contracting covid then their is the same non risk to catching flu And yes an intelligent woman who MUST NOT contract covid CAN implement a safe regime Going for her jab puts her at more risk than continuing her personal covid prevention regime With absolute diligence an individual can avoid flu common cold and covid However to expect the entire world to do so is not reasonable and unless the entire world was meticulous any one who is vulnerable must undertake the mammoth but possible route of self preservation If they take that only route to their saftey then a flu jab is needless Or you could just mind your own business? Actually whether you get flu or not is pretty much out of your control. I'm a bit of a germophobe. I won't touch a door handle, wash my hands regularly etc. But when you go to work in an open plan office and the hero with flu who came into work sitting next to you with a box of tissues is coughing and sneezing... you're fucked. If you are a parent and your kids go to school you get whatever they get. This is NOT true now we are in covid land Risking anothers virus is now not acceptable or safe If a vulnerable contracts covid they die The vulnerable cannot rely upon society to keep them safe There is no vaccine for covid Thus if the vulnerable does not want to contract covid they need to be meticulous with their preventative measures No contact no close contact with grand children no going closer than 3 meters . Impeccable hand Hygine no touching door handles frames Going to pubs etc If practiced as necessary then both cov and influenza and the cold are transmitted via exactly the same pathways The ONLY way to protect yourself from covid is to METICULOUSLY protect yourself from covid everything else is hope and guess not good enough when your life is on the line By simple logic if you protect yourself effectively from cov 19 you have zero risk of influenza Ironically Going for the flu jab could plausibility be the single chink in ones protecting armour where the shielding vulnerable may statically be putting their exposure to covid higher than them staying clear of places with close contact humans So what I've said isn't true? Well lots of words but no actual reason why what I have said isn't true. If you are ar work and your coworker is coughing and sneezing over you do you think METICULOUS handwashing will save you? If your kids come home from school with Covid-19, what are you going to do? Keep them in the shed and leave food for them outside the door? If a vulnerable person goes out to buy food or other essentials and someone coughs on them they have no way of preventing that. dont think you're taking the risk of covid seriously?? It kills a vulnerable person If it were Ebola or SARS 1 Would you really suggest risking work or looking after kids ??? If a vulnerable must go shopping they MUST ensure anyone who does cough SARS onto them that they have an effective solution to ensure the errors of others cannot kill them Sarrs is out there it kills if you dont want to die you cannot rely on humanity the vulnerable or anyone who does not want to catch it must ensure they cannot The sad fact is if a vulnerable does not want to risk dieing they will have to limit their freedoms and can never be close to their children again A flu jab is negated by default Going to get the jab could plausibility give them covid I was clear I said your statement of catching colds from others was certainly true pre covid however this virus is so dangerous that one cannot risk the environments or situations where covid may be and that's the only way flu can be caught IF one protects oneself EFFECTIVELY for covid once will not need the flu protection If one is at risk of catching flu and vulnerable they they WILL eventually catch covid and die It's just a harsh reality Bubbles and masks do not stop covid only slow it It's there for any child to spread and thus no contact A damn damn damn miserable existence Awwww bless ya. When I first posted on this in January there wasn't even a thread for this iteration of covid, just one that was a year old. Since then I have been called a conspiracy nut, a scaremongerer and a bullshitter because I thought Covid-19 was serious. So thanks for saying I don't appreciate the seriousness of Covid-19. It's a welcome relief. I've asked two questions: 1) If you are at the shops, work or wherever how are you supposed to stop someone who does not social distance from coughing all over you? Are you suggesting a Chuck Norris roundhouse kick for anyone who comes within 2 meters? If so you may catch Covid-19 from your arresting officer. 2) If you have children and don't want to die of Covid-19 what do you propose? Putting them on ebay? Putting them up for adoption? Killing them and claiming self defence? What is this immediate solution for if someone coughs on you in the shops? Immediately douse yourself in bleach? But yes you highlight the problem. It seems to be the responsibility of the uninfected to live an impractical life rather than the possibly infected to behave responsibly. As for the children exactly what to do So you get covid you die You let the children out eventually even if the world behaved they would catch it What you going to do keep them inside ? It's an impossible situation " The point is that if you and your family stay at home and venture out then you are probably safe from flu and Covid-19. The moment you venture out you hand over a bit of that control to the consideration of total strangers. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-people-co-infected-with-flu-and-covid-19-have-far-greater-risk-of-death-12078402 If you can, please get a Flu Injection - it helps you and it helps others. Moot point Iv had a conversation with a vulnerable today They indeed have been told to get the jab I suggested why ?? My reasoning IF she caught covid she will die Simple flu jab no flu jab covid kills So I suggested she must practice impeccable hygiene If she prevents all risk of contracting covid then their is the same non risk to catching flu And yes an intelligent woman who MUST NOT contract covid CAN implement a safe regime Going for her jab puts her at more risk than continuing her personal covid prevention regime With absolute diligence an individual can avoid flu common cold and covid However to expect the entire world to do so is not reasonable and unless the entire world was meticulous any one who is vulnerable must undertake the mammoth but possible route of self preservation If they take that only route to their saftey then a flu jab is needless Or you could just mind your own business? Actually whether you get flu or not is pretty much out of your control. I'm a bit of a germophobe. I won't touch a door handle, wash my hands regularly etc. But when you go to work in an open plan office and the hero with flu who came into work sitting next to you with a box of tissues is coughing and sneezing... you're fucked. If you are a parent and your kids go to school you get whatever they get. This is NOT true now we are in covid land Risking anothers virus is now not acceptable or safe If a vulnerable contracts covid they die The vulnerable cannot rely upon society to keep them safe There is no vaccine for covid Thus if the vulnerable does not want to contract covid they need to be meticulous with their preventative measures No contact no close contact with grand children no going closer than 3 meters . Impeccable hand Hygine no touching door handles frames Going to pubs etc If practiced as necessary then both cov and influenza and the cold are transmitted via exactly the same pathways The ONLY way to protect yourself from covid is to METICULOUSLY protect yourself from covid everything else is hope and guess not good enough when your life is on the line By simple logic if you protect yourself effectively from cov 19 you have zero risk of influenza Ironically Going for the flu jab could plausibility be the single chink in ones protecting armour where the shielding vulnerable may statically be putting their exposure to covid higher than them staying clear of places with close contact humans So what I've said isn't true? Well lots of words but no actual reason why what I have said isn't true. If you are ar work and your coworker is coughing and sneezing over you do you think METICULOUS handwashing will save you? If your kids come home from school with Covid-19, what are you going to do? Keep them in the shed and leave food for them outside the door? If a vulnerable person goes out to buy food or other essentials and someone coughs on them they have no way of preventing that. dont think you're taking the risk of covid seriously?? It kills a vulnerable person If it were Ebola or SARS 1 Would you really suggest risking work or looking after kids ??? If a vulnerable must go shopping they MUST ensure anyone who does cough SARS onto them that they have an effective solution to ensure the errors of others cannot kill them Sarrs is out there it kills if you dont want to die you cannot rely on humanity the vulnerable or anyone who does not want to catch it must ensure they cannot The sad fact is if a vulnerable does not want to risk dieing they will have to limit their freedoms and can never be close to their children again A flu jab is negated by default Going to get the jab could plausibility give them covid I was clear I said your statement of catching colds from others was certainly true pre covid however this virus is so dangerous that one cannot risk the environments or situations where covid may be and that's the only way flu can be caught IF one protects oneself EFFECTIVELY for covid once will not need the flu protection If one is at risk of catching flu and vulnerable they they WILL eventually catch covid and die It's just a harsh reality Bubbles and masks do not stop covid only slow it It's there for any child to spread and thus no contact A damn damn damn miserable existence Awwww bless ya. When I first posted on this in January there wasn't even a thread for this iteration of covid, just one that was a year old. Since then I have been called a conspiracy nut, a scaremongerer and a bullshitter because I thought Covid-19 was serious. So thanks for saying I don't appreciate the seriousness of Covid-19. It's a welcome relief. I've asked two questions: 1) If you are at the shops, work or wherever how are you supposed to stop someone who does not social distance from coughing all over you? Are you suggesting a Chuck Norris roundhouse kick for anyone who comes within 2 meters? If so you may catch Covid-19 from your arresting officer. 2) If you have children and don't want to die of Covid-19 what do you propose? Putting them on ebay? Putting them up for adoption? Killing them and claiming self defence? What is this immediate solution for if someone coughs on you in the shops? Immediately douse yourself in bleach? But yes you highlight the problem. It seems to be the responsibility of the uninfected to live an impractical life rather than the possibly infected to behave responsibly. As for the children exactly what to do So you get covid you die You let the children out eventually even if the world behaved they would catch it What you going to do keep them inside ? It's an impossible situation The point is that if you and your family stay at home and venture out then you are probably safe from flu and Covid-19. The moment you venture out you hand over a bit of that control to the consideration of total strangers." Zero disagreement there However the vulnerable inorder to avoid both MUST practice impeccable anti covid measures including not touching hand cleaning respirators and avoiding close proximity to any one including their children I did not say should Up to them I only give a logic statement If they want to they will have to I do think others should try to practice impeccable covid prevention but even if they did our vulnerable still IF they dont want to die Must not take risks My obsession of over70s vulnerable Today a lovely gent entered where I work Wearing his mask struggling to breath After 8 steps he had touched every surface and handle Then touched his wallet and mask and watch and car keys 2 minutes before a lady and her 5 year old had been there the child fresh from school The child also touched everything So I had a kind word of preventative advice for the old gent He nodded smiled tried to come closer than 2 m I moved away Cheerio he said as he used his bare hands to use the door handle Yes I had cleaned everything after child but our friendly gent did not kno that and I'm truly not convinced that could be possible in every environment across the world Point being Everyone should do their bit very much so But it would be wise if our vulnerable were given more than a soundbite for effective means to effectively protect themselves whilst not at home | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-people-co-infected-with-flu-and-covid-19-have-far-greater-risk-of-death-12078402 If you can, please get a Flu Injection - it helps you and it helps others. Moot point Iv had a conversation with a vulnerable today They indeed have been told to get the jab I suggested why ?? My reasoning IF she caught covid she will die Simple flu jab no flu jab covid kills So I suggested she must practice impeccable hygiene If she prevents all risk of contracting covid then their is the same non risk to catching flu And yes an intelligent woman who MUST NOT contract covid CAN implement a safe regime Going for her jab puts her at more risk than continuing her personal covid prevention regime With absolute diligence an individual can avoid flu common cold and covid However to expect the entire world to do so is not reasonable and unless the entire world was meticulous any one who is vulnerable must undertake the mammoth but possible route of self preservation If they take that only route to their saftey then a flu jab is needless Or you could just mind your own business? Actually whether you get flu or not is pretty much out of your control. I'm a bit of a germophobe. I won't touch a door handle, wash my hands regularly etc. But when you go to work in an open plan office and the hero with flu who came into work sitting next to you with a box of tissues is coughing and sneezing... you're fucked. If you are a parent and your kids go to school you get whatever they get. This is NOT true now we are in covid land Risking anothers virus is now not acceptable or safe If a vulnerable contracts covid they die The vulnerable cannot rely upon society to keep them safe There is no vaccine for covid Thus if the vulnerable does not want to contract covid they need to be meticulous with their preventative measures No contact no close contact with grand children no going closer than 3 meters . Impeccable hand Hygine no touching door handles frames Going to pubs etc If practiced as necessary then both cov and influenza and the cold are transmitted via exactly the same pathways The ONLY way to protect yourself from covid is to METICULOUSLY protect yourself from covid everything else is hope and guess not good enough when your life is on the line By simple logic if you protect yourself effectively from cov 19 you have zero risk of influenza Ironically Going for the flu jab could plausibility be the single chink in ones protecting armour where the shielding vulnerable may statically be putting their exposure to covid higher than them staying clear of places with close contact humans So what I've said isn't true? Well lots of words but no actual reason why what I have said isn't true. If you are ar work and your coworker is coughing and sneezing over you do you think METICULOUS handwashing will save you? If your kids come home from school with Covid-19, what are you going to do? Keep them in the shed and leave food for them outside the door? If a vulnerable person goes out to buy food or other essentials and someone coughs on them they have no way of preventing that. dont think you're taking the risk of covid seriously?? It kills a vulnerable person If it were Ebola or SARS 1 Would you really suggest risking work or looking after kids ??? If a vulnerable must go shopping they MUST ensure anyone who does cough SARS onto them that they have an effective solution to ensure the errors of others cannot kill them Sarrs is out there it kills if you dont want to die you cannot rely on humanity the vulnerable or anyone who does not want to catch it must ensure they cannot The sad fact is if a vulnerable does not want to risk dieing they will have to limit their freedoms and can never be close to their children again A flu jab is negated by default Going to get the jab could plausibility give them covid I was clear I said your statement of catching colds from others was certainly true pre covid however this virus is so dangerous that one cannot risk the environments or situations where covid may be and that's the only way flu can be caught IF one protects oneself EFFECTIVELY for covid once will not need the flu protection If one is at risk of catching flu and vulnerable they they WILL eventually catch covid and die It's just a harsh reality Bubbles and masks do not stop covid only slow it It's there for any child to spread and thus no contact A damn damn damn miserable existence Awwww bless ya. When I first posted on this in January there wasn't even a thread for this iteration of covid, just one that was a year old. Since then I have been called a conspiracy nut, a scaremongerer and a bullshitter because I thought Covid-19 was serious. So thanks for saying I don't appreciate the seriousness of Covid-19. It's a welcome relief. I've asked two questions: 1) If you are at the shops, work or wherever how are you supposed to stop someone who does not social distance from coughing all over you? Are you suggesting a Chuck Norris roundhouse kick for anyone who comes within 2 meters? If so you may catch Covid-19 from your arresting officer. 2) If you have children and don't want to die of Covid-19 what do you propose? Putting them on ebay? Putting them up for adoption? Killing them and claiming self defence? What is this immediate solution for if someone coughs on you in the shops? Immediately douse yourself in bleach? But yes you highlight the problem. It seems to be the responsibility of the uninfected to live an impractical life rather than the possibly infected to behave responsibly. As for the children exactly what to do So you get covid you die You let the children out eventually even if the world behaved they would catch it What you going to do keep them inside ? It's an impossible situation The point is that if you and your family stay at home and venture out then you are probably safe from flu and Covid-19. The moment you venture out you hand over a bit of that control to the consideration of total strangers. Zero disagreement there However the vulnerable inorder to avoid both MUST practice impeccable anti covid measures including not touching hand cleaning respirators and avoiding close proximity to any one including their children I did not say should Up to them I only give a logic statement If they want to they will have to I do think others should try to practice impeccable covid prevention but even if they did our vulnerable still IF they dont want to die Must not take risks My obsession of over70s vulnerable Today a lovely gent entered where I work Wearing his mask struggling to breath After 8 steps he had touched every surface and handle Then touched his wallet and mask and watch and car keys 2 minutes before a lady and her 5 year old had been there the child fresh from school The child also touched everything So I had a kind word of preventative advice for the old gent He nodded smiled tried to come closer than 2 m I moved away Cheerio he said as he used his bare hands to use the door handle Yes I had cleaned everything after child but our friendly gent did not kno that and I'm truly not convinced that could be possible in every environment across the world Point being Everyone should do their bit very much so But it would be wise if our vulnerable were given more than a soundbite for effective means to effectively protect themselves whilst not at home " I totally agree with you. I wish someone would make an app so your phone shouted at you every time you touch your face. There's a lot of things we can all do. It isn't just the vulnerable and it isn't just for Covid-19. I for one think that shaking someones hand is unnecessary. Gone are the days when someone will draw a sword on you... | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-people-co-infected-with-flu-and-covid-19-have-far-greater-risk-of-death-12078402 If you can, please get a Flu Injection - it helps you and it helps others. " Shameless BUMP . . . | |||
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"Lloyd’s pharmacy offering the jab service. Both free for the vulnerable and for payment " Boots have reported that they are re-stocking ASAP. | |||
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"Lloyd’s pharmacy offering the jab service. Both free for the vulnerable and for payment Boots have reported that they are re-stocking ASAP." It could be suggested it would be safer to not venture into a shop where lots of sick people gravitate esp to receive a product that theoretically at least should have had its need negated by strict covid avoidance strategies ? | |||
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"Then don't get a Flu Injection. There is no Gun. No Orders. Up to you. Others do wish to however. " I'm absolutely NOT giving either advice or a recommendation Simply a logical analysis that might help someone decide if they want to risk venturing into germ infested environments? | |||
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"Then don't get a Flu Injection. There is no Gun. No Orders. Up to you. Others do wish to however. I'm absolutely NOT giving either advice or a recommendation Simply a logical analysis that might help someone decide if they want to risk venturing into germ infested environments? " Having already has a Flu Injection - believe me they have the Safety covered. Maybe it's only because they are a Pharmacy with Trained Pharmacists who's specialty is Health? Or maybe it's because people will ensure that they themselves are safe whilst visiting. Or maybe . . . | |||
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"Ive found that eating raw onions keeps colds away too" That's probably because noone will come near enough to give you one with the smell of the onion... | |||
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"Also Normally data is used to add to an algorithm to predict the statistical most probable and prevalent strain Erm 8 months of anti covid strategies has effectively destroyed the worth or the validity as the algorithm would have been based upon no human intervention " 'The influenza viruses in the seasonal flu vaccine are selected each year based on ''surveillance data'' indicating which viruses are circulating and forecasts about which viruses are the most likely to circulate during the coming season'. | |||
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"Also Normally data is used to add to an algorithm to predict the statistical most probable and prevalent strain Erm 8 months of anti covid strategies has effectively destroyed the worth or the validity as the algorithm would have been based upon no human intervention 'The influenza viruses in the seasonal flu vaccine are selected each year based on ''surveillance data'' indicating which viruses are circulating and forecasts about which viruses are the most likely to circulate during the coming season'. " Exactly ie human intervention has slowed and altered that that was my point | |||
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"Then don't get a Flu Injection. There is no Gun. No Orders. Up to you. Others do wish to however. I'm absolutely NOT giving either advice or a recommendation Simply a logical analysis that might help someone decide if they want to risk venturing into germ infested environments? Having already has a Flu Injection - believe me they have the Safety covered. Maybe it's only because they are a Pharmacy with Trained Pharmacists who's specialty is Health? Or maybe it's because people will ensure that they themselves are safe whilst visiting. Or maybe . . . " Boots cleans its doors surfaces and products after every customer through the door ? Boots can ensure no one in its store has covid ? It's a store full of non understanding shopping and possibly Ill humans I'm quite sure the narrow area where one is injected is fairly safe Getting there and back out again I'm not so confident Boots I assume has banned all children ?? What no it hasn't erm weak link right there What children dont touch stuff and if they do it's cleaned immediately cool glad to hear it What all vulnerable people are fully conversant and informed thus practice impeccable hygiene when out , awesome I'll suggest again A human practicing an effective anti covid regime negates any need for the influenza jab And the very experience of going for the jab adds an extra layer of unsafe environment to protect effectively from | |||
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"Then don't get a Flu Injection. There is no Gun. No Orders. Up to you. Others do wish to however. I'm absolutely NOT giving either advice or a recommendation Simply a logical analysis that might help someone decide if they want to risk venturing into germ infested environments? Having already has a Flu Injection - believe me they have the Safety covered. Maybe it's only because they are a Pharmacy with Trained Pharmacists who's specialty is Health? Or maybe it's because people will ensure that they themselves are safe whilst visiting. Or maybe . . . Boots cleans its doors surfaces and products after every customer through the door ? Boots can ensure no one in its store has covid ? It's a store full of non understanding shopping and possibly Ill humans I'm quite sure the narrow area where one is injected is fairly safe Getting there and back out again I'm not so confident Boots I assume has banned all children ?? What no it hasn't erm weak link right there What children dont touch stuff and if they do it's cleaned immediately cool glad to hear it What all vulnerable people are fully conversant and informed thus practice impeccable hygiene when out , awesome I'll suggest again A human practicing an effective anti covid regime negates any need for the influenza jab And the very experience of going for the jab adds an extra layer of unsafe environment to protect effectively from " You are not talking about health and safety in a real world - you are talking about being a hermit. | |||
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"Ill stick to my homeopathic stuff. Think ive had a cold once in last five years. " Homeopathy is as real as ghosts, goblins and leprechauns | |||
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"Lloyd’s pharmacy offering the jab service. Both free for the vulnerable and for payment Boots have reported that they are re-stocking ASAP. It could be suggested it would be safer to not venture into a shop where lots of sick people gravitate esp to receive a product that theoretically at least should have had its need negated by strict covid avoidance strategies ?" Nonsense | |||
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"Also Normally data is used to add to an algorithm to predict the statistical most probable and prevalent strain Erm 8 months of anti covid strategies has effectively destroyed the worth or the validity as the algorithm would have been based upon no human intervention " You actually make no sense here. Like it’s hilarious how much of nothing it says lol | |||
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"Then don't get a Flu Injection. There is no Gun. No Orders. Up to you. Others do wish to however. I'm absolutely NOT giving either advice or a recommendation Simply a logical analysis that might help someone decide if they want to risk venturing into germ infested environments? " Your stance on getting a flu jab is heavily biased so you’ll find you actually are giving advice. Don’t be coy | |||
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"Then don't get a Flu Injection. There is no Gun. No Orders. Up to you. Others do wish to however. I'm absolutely NOT giving either advice or a recommendation Simply a logical analysis that might help someone decide if they want to risk venturing into germ infested environments? Having already has a Flu Injection - believe me they have the Safety covered. Maybe it's only because they are a Pharmacy with Trained Pharmacists who's specialty is Health? Or maybe it's because people will ensure that they themselves are safe whilst visiting. Or maybe . . . Boots cleans its doors surfaces and products after every customer through the door ? Boots can ensure no one in its store has covid ? It's a store full of non understanding shopping and possibly Ill humans I'm quite sure the narrow area where one is injected is fairly safe Getting there and back out again I'm not so confident Boots I assume has banned all children ?? What no it hasn't erm weak link right there What children dont touch stuff and if they do it's cleaned immediately cool glad to hear it What all vulnerable people are fully conversant and informed thus practice impeccable hygiene when out , awesome I'll suggest again A human practicing an effective anti covid regime negates any need for the influenza jab And the very experience of going for the jab adds an extra layer of unsafe environment to protect effectively from " Jesus Christ would ye stop speaking about going in for a jab as if it was mission impossible or a new unparalleled expedition to an outer galaxy. Mother of God, man | |||
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"Then don't get a Flu Injection. There is no Gun. No Orders. Up to you. Others do wish to however. I'm absolutely NOT giving either advice or a recommendation Simply a logical analysis that might help someone decide if they want to risk venturing into germ infested environments? Having already has a Flu Injection - believe me they have the Safety covered. Maybe it's only because they are a Pharmacy with Trained Pharmacists who's specialty is Health? Or maybe it's because people will ensure that they themselves are safe whilst visiting. Or maybe . . . Boots cleans its doors surfaces and products after every customer through the door ? Boots can ensure no one in its store has covid ? It's a store full of non understanding shopping and possibly Ill humans I'm quite sure the narrow area where one is injected is fairly safe Getting there and back out again I'm not so confident Boots I assume has banned all children ?? What no it hasn't erm weak link right there What children dont touch stuff and if they do it's cleaned immediately cool glad to hear it What all vulnerable people are fully conversant and informed thus practice impeccable hygiene when out , awesome I'll suggest again A human practicing an effective anti covid regime negates any need for the influenza jab And the very experience of going for the jab adds an extra layer of unsafe environment to protect effectively from Jesus Christ would ye stop speaking about going in for a jab as if it was mission impossible or a new unparalleled expedition to an outer galaxy. Mother of God, man " There was nobody in the chemist and they had a lovely room set aside that was cleaned between clients. Twas lovely and safe. | |||
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"Ill stick to my homeopathic stuff. Think ive had a cold once in last five years. A common cold and flu are very different Homeopathy is as real as ghosts, goblins and leprechauns " | |||
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