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"I noticed this morning that the barriers have now re-emerged in retail shops queuing up is going to happen again "And so it should. Some people are acting like everything's ok x | |||
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And so it should. Some people are acting like everything's ok x"I I think the majority of people are there do know that we still are living in a crisis and unfortunately it will be here for many years to come  | |||
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"I noticed this morning that the barriers have now re-emerged in retail shops queuing up is going to happen again "“Again”?! It shouldn’t have stopped; that it did is part of the reason why we are now facing the second wave. | |||
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"We were always told that if we don't behave and the numbers start to rise then measures would have to be taken. Some people didn't seem to understand this and we are now all gonna have to put up with certain restrictions. " I would agree this point but add that whilst some have not as there are those who never will listen some others will no doubt have been a bit confused given one minute to it's lockdown then it's eat out to help out etc, opening up travel and wanting offices staffed again. Which might have all been do able if the track and trace system wasn't do poor and once schools opened there were enough tests.. It's ok for the like of Hancock to try and deflect from some of his governments failings by putting all the blame on the public like a lecturing teacher but the reality is far more complex than that.. | |||
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"We were always told that if we don't behave and the numbers start to rise then measures would have to be taken. Some people didn't seem to understand this and we are now all gonna have to put up with certain restrictions. I would agree this point but add that whilst some have not as there are those who never will listen some others will no doubt have been a bit confused given one minute to it's lockdown then it's eat out to help out etc, opening up travel and wanting offices staffed again. Which might have all been do able if the track and trace system wasn't do poor and once schools opened there were enough tests.. It's ok for the like of Hancock to try and deflect from some of his governments failings by putting all the blame on the public like a lecturing teacher but the reality is far more complex than that.." I think our government still has some kind of herd immunity agenda. It is only the public outcry at the loss of life that dissuaded them from making it official policy. So now we go through the motions of giving the appearance of trying to prevent the spread while our actions say the complete opposite. Remember them saying lockdown was just so we could keep the numbers down so we could last through to summer? When the numbers were down we could have contained this virus the way countries like New Zealand etc have done. We had our chance. We blew it. | |||
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"So, you're saying that it looks like we are gonna get treated like naughty schoolchildren again " Some would look at it and say we are being asked to be responsible adults | |||
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"We were always told that if we don't behave and the numbers start to rise then measures would have to be taken. Some people didn't seem to understand this and we are now all gonna have to put up with certain restrictions. I would agree this point but add that whilst some have not as there are those who never will listen some others will no doubt have been a bit confused given one minute to it's lockdown then it's eat out to help out etc, opening up travel and wanting offices staffed again. Which might have all been do able if the track and trace system wasn't do poor and once schools opened there were enough tests.. It's ok for the like of Hancock to try and deflect from some of his governments failings by putting all the blame on the public like a lecturing teacher but the reality is far more complex than that.. I think our government still has some kind of herd immunity agenda. It is only the public outcry at the loss of life that dissuaded them from making it official policy. So now we go through the motions of giving the appearance of trying to prevent the spread while our actions say the complete opposite. Remember them saying lockdown was just so we could keep the numbers down so we could last through to summer? When the numbers were down we could have contained this virus the way countries like New Zealand etc have done. We had our chance. We blew it." Agenda or incompetence.. The former they should come clear about if it is the case, the latter they will like most political parties never fess up to.. We had months to prepare and get both track and trace right and enough testing capacity ready but as they failed it's limiting their options now.. The system of adversarial politics restricts how some things, brexit and this are managed when some things are above party politics.. Maybe we all get what we deserve in preserving the status quo.. | |||
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"So, you're saying that it looks like we are gonna get treated like naughty schoolchildren again Some would look at it and say we are being asked to be responsible adults" Exactly! I'm sick of people saying the govt haven't got a clue and then using it as an excuse to break the rules. Wear a mask, socially distance, don't be a dick. Not really hard, is it? X | |||
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"So, you're saying that it looks like we are gonna get treated like naughty schoolchildren again Some would look at it and say we are being asked to be responsible adults Exactly! I'm sick of people saying the govt haven't got a clue and then using it as an excuse to break the rules. Wear a mask, socially distance, don't be a dick. Not really hard, is it? X" Ditto.. It's not like were being asked to make anything like major sacrifices.. And we can still wear a mask and be critical in a muffled stylie.. | |||
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"So, you're saying that it looks like we are gonna get treated like naughty schoolchildren again Some would look at it and say we are being asked to be responsible adults Exactly! I'm sick of people saying the govt haven't got a clue and then using it as an excuse to break the rules. Wear a mask, socially distance, don't be a dick. Not really hard, is it? X" Yeah. We wouldn't have to be treated like naughty schoolchildren if we didn't behave like naughty schoolchildren. | |||
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"Funnily enough we went to Sainsburys and they had the queuing set up outside, we hadn't shopped in there since the beginning of lock down so don't know if it had stopped in the meantime but as other shops have stopped with the queues we did think we would shop there instead from now on" Aldi fitted red and green lights on the entrance...I think the red bulb has broken.. | |||
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"Funnily enough we went to Sainsburys and they had the queuing set up outside, we hadn't shopped in there since the beginning of lock down so don't know if it had stopped in the meantime but as other shops have stopped with the queues we did think we would shop there instead from now on Aldi fitted red and green lights on the entrance...I think the red bulb has broken.." The red bulb was removed because it violated people's liberties. They are looking at doing the same with traffic lights. People are complaining that having to stop at the intersection infringes on their human rights and is a draconian measure used to limit their right to free passage...  | |||
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"Funnily enough we went to Sainsburys and they had the queuing set up outside, we hadn't shopped in there since the beginning of lock down so don't know if it had stopped in the meantime but as other shops have stopped with the queues we did think we would shop there instead from now on Aldi fitted red and green lights on the entrance...I think the red bulb has broken.." Oh they also still play their message on how looking after after customers is their top priority...while I'm walking past unmasked shelf stickers | |||
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"So, you're saying that it looks like we are gonna get treated like naughty schoolchildren again Some would look at it and say we are being asked to be responsible adults Exactly! I'm sick of people saying the govt haven't got a clue and then using it as an excuse to break the rules. Wear a mask, socially distance, don't be a dick. Not really hard, is it? X" Nope, I don't get the angst over it, we are meant to be looking after each other | |||
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"Funnily enough we went to Sainsburys and they had the queuing set up outside, we hadn't shopped in there since the beginning of lock down so don't know if it had stopped in the meantime but as other shops have stopped with the queues we did think we would shop there instead from now on Aldi fitted red and green lights on the entrance...I think the red bulb has broken.. The red bulb was removed because it violated people's liberties. They are looking at doing the same with traffic lights. People are complaining that having to stop at the intersection infringes on their human rights and is a draconian measure used to limit their right to free passage... "That I could believe... | |||
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"So, you're saying that it looks like we are gonna get treated like naughty schoolchildren again Some would look at it and say we are being asked to be responsible adults Exactly! I'm sick of people saying the govt haven't got a clue and then using it as an excuse to break the rules. Wear a mask, socially distance, don't be a dick. Not really hard, is it? X" personally I believe those that complain are the ones that think it’s an inconvenience to their lifestyle and freedom | |||
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"We are facing the second wave because people are absolutely oblivious to this virus people are still having parties people are still meeting up when they say about you can't get the infection when you're outside that's just complete bs" People are meeting as theyve been told its ok to... simple... eat out, play team sport, go to pub, get back to work etc etc. If youre told you can do stuff you enjoy after 4 months of not being able to do so, then of course people will do things theyve missed. But we are all arseholes for doing so. The only thing i am fearful of is the fact that fear has caused division in the people. Turn the news off, dont buy a paper, and dont listen to the radio, and believe me, youll feel a whole lot better | |||
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"Funnily enough we went to Sainsburys and they had the queuing set up outside, we hadn't shopped in there since the beginning of lock down so don't know if it had stopped in the meantime but as other shops have stopped with the queues we did think we would shop there instead from now on" My Sainbury has allways controlled the queuing so nothing new. ent shopping in Aldi this morning it is the first time I have seen all customers in a mask and watching distance. | |||
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"World beating app - nope Protect care homes- nope 500,00 tests a day- nope Go back to work you’ll be fine? Get on the train you’ll be fine? Get the kids to school they’ll be fine? Look at that woman in the Aldi queue it’s all her fault." You forgot the bribe at the tax payers expense to eat out to help out...pubs and restaurants will be shut again very soon. Let's hope this isn't repeated again if we get some control over it again. | |||
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"World beating app - nope Protect care homes- nope 500,00 tests a day- nope Go back to work you’ll be fine? Get on the train you’ll be fine? Get the kids to school they’ll be fine? Look at that woman in the Aldi queue it’s all her fault. You forgot the bribe at the tax payers expense to eat out to help out...pubs and restaurants will be shut again very soon. Let's hope this isn't repeated again if we get some control over it again." Article from the BBC... "Covid-19: UK could face 50,000 cases a day by October without action - Vallance" "Sir Patrick Vallance said that would be expected to lead to about "200-plus deaths per day" a month after that. I am presuming that a majority of fab forumites would be happy for us to take the "Sweden" route and let this happen? | |||
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"World beating app - nope Protect care homes- nope 500,00 tests a day- nope Go back to work you’ll be fine? Get on the train you’ll be fine? Get the kids to school they’ll be fine? Look at that woman in the Aldi queue it’s all her fault. You forgot the bribe at the tax payers expense to eat out to help out...pubs and restaurants will be shut again very soon. Let's hope this isn't repeated again if we get some control over it again. Article from the BBC... "Covid-19: UK could face 50,000 cases a day by October without action - Vallance" "Sir Patrick Vallance said that would be expected to lead to about "200-plus deaths per day" a month after that. I am presuming that a majority of fab forumites would be happy for us to take the "Sweden" route and let this happen? " It's been one of them things when I read certain poster on here is they always want the easy option...Sweden gives them the easy option as they see it as less disruption to them. Then their is the ones who post that the virus has weakened...we have better medication now...its mutated so it will not harm us. The fact of it is...that it was and will be a deadly virus for a long time yet. And all the wishing for it to go away will not work...just because it inconveniences their lives. | |||
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"World beating app - nope Protect care homes- nope 500,00 tests a day- nope Go back to work you’ll be fine? Get on the train you’ll be fine? Get the kids to school they’ll be fine? Look at that woman in the Aldi queue it’s all her fault. You forgot the bribe at the tax payers expense to eat out to help out...pubs and restaurants will be shut again very soon. Let's hope this isn't repeated again if we get some control over it again. Article from the BBC... "Covid-19: UK could face 50,000 cases a day by October without action - Vallance" "Sir Patrick Vallance said that would be expected to lead to about "200-plus deaths per day" a month after that. I am presuming that a majority of fab forumites would be happy for us to take the "Sweden" route and let this happen? It's been one of them things when I read certain poster on here is they always want the easy option...Sweden gives them the easy option as they see it as less disruption to them. Then their is the ones who post that the virus has weakened...we have better medication now...its mutated so it will not harm us. The fact of it is...that it was and will be a deadly virus for a long time yet. And all the wishing for it to go away will not work...just because it inconveniences their lives." I think you are spot on. This applies to the general population and to the government too. Herd immunity was a no expense, no effort or organisation solution. Small wonder it was so attractive as an option. Scientists are saying the virus has weakened. But then we need to lool at "why". They are proposing that people are infected with a "lower viral load" because of masks and social distancing. I see this as an argument to continue the use of masks and social distancing, not as a sign that it's safe to ignore the virus. | |||
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"World beating app - nope Protect care homes- nope 500,00 tests a day- nope Go back to work you’ll be fine? Get on the train you’ll be fine? Get the kids to school they’ll be fine? Look at that woman in the Aldi queue it’s all her fault. You forgot the bribe at the tax payers expense to eat out to help out...pubs and restaurants will be shut again very soon. Let's hope this isn't repeated again if we get some control over it again. Article from the BBC... "Covid-19: UK could face 50,000 cases a day by October without action - Vallance" "Sir Patrick Vallance said that would be expected to lead to about "200-plus deaths per day" a month after that. I am presuming that a majority of fab forumites would be happy for us to take the "Sweden" route and let this happen? It's been one of them things when I read certain poster on here is they always want the easy option...Sweden gives them the easy option as they see it as less disruption to them. Then their is the ones who post that the virus has weakened...we have better medication now...its mutated so it will not harm us. The fact of it is...that it was and will be a deadly virus for a long time yet. And all the wishing for it to go away will not work...just because it inconveniences their lives. I think you are spot on. This applies to the general population and to the government too. Herd immunity was a no expense, no effort or organisation solution. Small wonder it was so attractive as an option. Scientists are saying the virus has weakened. But then we need to lool at "why". They are proposing that people are infected with a "lower viral load" because of masks and social distancing. I see this as an argument to continue the use of masks and social distancing, not as a sign that it's safe to ignore the virus." Yep I will be wearing a mask outside for a long while whatever happens
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"World beating app - nope Protect care homes- nope 500,00 tests a day- nope Go back to work you’ll be fine? Get on the train you’ll be fine? Get the kids to school they’ll be fine? Look at that woman in the Aldi queue it’s all her fault. You forgot the bribe at the tax payers expense to eat out to help out...pubs and restaurants will be shut again very soon. Let's hope this isn't repeated again if we get some control over it again. Article from the BBC... "Covid-19: UK could face 50,000 cases a day by October without action - Vallance" "Sir Patrick Vallance said that would be expected to lead to about "200-plus deaths per day" a month after that. I am presuming that a majority of fab forumites would be happy for us to take the "Sweden" route and let this happen? It's been one of them things when I read certain poster on here is they always want the easy option...Sweden gives them the easy option as they see it as less disruption to them. Then their is the ones who post that the virus has weakened...we have better medication now...its mutated so it will not harm us. The fact of it is...that it was and will be a deadly virus for a long time yet. And all the wishing for it to go away will not work...just because it inconveniences their lives. I think you are spot on. This applies to the general population and to the government too. Herd immunity was a no expense, no effort or organisation solution. Small wonder it was so attractive as an option. Scientists are saying the virus has weakened. But then we need to lool at "why". They are proposing that people are infected with a "lower viral load" because of masks and social distancing. I see this as an argument to continue the use of masks and social distancing, not as a sign that it's safe to ignore the virus. Yep I will be wearing a mask outside for a long while whatever happens
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"World beating app - nope Protect care homes- nope 500,00 tests a day- nope Go back to work you’ll be fine? Get on the train you’ll be fine? Get the kids to school they’ll be fine? Look at that woman in the Aldi queue it’s all her fault. You forgot the bribe at the tax payers expense to eat out to help out...pubs and restaurants will be shut again very soon. Let's hope this isn't repeated again if we get some control over it again. Article from the BBC... "Covid-19: UK could face 50,000 cases a day by October without action - Vallance" "Sir Patrick Vallance said that would be expected to lead to about "200-plus deaths per day" a month after that. I am presuming that a majority of fab forumites would be happy for us to take the "Sweden" route and let this happen? It's been one of them things when I read certain poster on here is they always want the easy option...Sweden gives them the easy option as they see it as less disruption to them. Then their is the ones who post that the virus has weakened...we have better medication now...its mutated so it will not harm us. The fact of it is...that it was and will be a deadly virus for a long time yet. And all the wishing for it to go away will not work...just because it inconveniences their lives. I think you are spot on. This applies to the general population and to the government too. Herd immunity was a no expense, no effort or organisation solution. Small wonder it was so attractive as an option. Scientists are saying the virus has weakened. But then we need to lool at "why". They are proposing that people are infected with a "lower viral load" because of masks and social distancing. I see this as an argument to continue the use of masks and social distancing, not as a sign that it's safe to ignore the virus." Also because obese people are still shielding, they will have a higher viral load because it can replicate very easily within fat cells | |||
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"World beating app - nope Protect care homes- nope 500,00 tests a day- nope Go back to work you’ll be fine? Get on the train you’ll be fine? Get the kids to school they’ll be fine? Look at that woman in the Aldi queue it’s all her fault. You forgot the bribe at the tax payers expense to eat out to help out...pubs and restaurants will be shut again very soon. Let's hope this isn't repeated again if we get some control over it again. Article from the BBC... "Covid-19: UK could face 50,000 cases a day by October without action - Vallance" "Sir Patrick Vallance said that would be expected to lead to about "200-plus deaths per day" a month after that. I am presuming that a majority of fab forumites would be happy for us to take the "Sweden" route and let this happen? It's been one of them things when I read certain poster on here is they always want the easy option...Sweden gives them the easy option as they see it as less disruption to them. Then their is the ones who post that the virus has weakened...we have better medication now...its mutated so it will not harm us. The fact of it is...that it was and will be a deadly virus for a long time yet. And all the wishing for it to go away will not work...just because it inconveniences their lives. I think you are spot on. This applies to the general population and to the government too. Herd immunity was a no expense, no effort or organisation solution. Small wonder it was so attractive as an option. Scientists are saying the virus has weakened. But then we need to lool at "why". They are proposing that people are infected with a "lower viral load" because of masks and social distancing. I see this as an argument to continue the use of masks and social distancing, not as a sign that it's safe to ignore the virus. Also because obese people are still shielding, they will have a higher viral load because it can replicate very easily within fat cells" No I've heard Boris Johnson is out and about... | |||
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