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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. " No, all that will do is prevent/discourage people from getting tested if they think they have covid. On the other hand, paid for 'instant' testing to resume some activites (ie. to prove you're negative) may have a place but must be entirely separate from the diagnostic testing system. | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward." And then people complain the system can’t cope. Just like ignoring the distancing guidelines and then being surprised the R rate rises.  | |||
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"You do get a lot of people who are not entitled to have a flu jab on the NHS wanting to pay for one because "getting the flu will interrupt their schedules"" Flu jabs are not a test..different ball game to testing. Testing is the frontline in this...who said in march test test and test. We have squandered time on lining the pockets of the gvmts mates with useless apps and duff PPE. | |||
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"You do get a lot of people who are not entitled to have a flu jab on the NHS wanting to pay for one because "getting the flu will interrupt their schedules" Flu jabs are not a test..different ball game to testing. Testing is the frontline in this...who said in march test test and test. We have squandered time on lining the pockets of the gvmts mates with useless apps and duff PPE." . I agree the government and health England have been woeful with testing and in test kits | |||
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"You do get a lot of people who are not entitled to have a flu jab on the NHS wanting to pay for one because "getting the flu will interrupt their schedules" Flu jabs are not a test..different ball game to testing. Testing is the frontline in this...who said in march test test and test. We have squandered time on lining the pockets of the gvmts mates with useless apps and duff PPE." And gee, I don't see the downside in people paying to get a flu jab. They don't get flu. They don't spread flu. Result! | |||
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"Watching the latest Health Scrutiny Commission video for Leicestershire, some interesting details have come out. Firstly, they control the location of drive through test centres in the county, not central government. Secondly, the tests have increased threefold over the last month and whilst the test sites are coping with the volumes, the lab facilities who process those tests aren't. There are no reports of lack of test kits. Lastly, they are taking their 'Trace failures' from the private companies and dealing with them 'in-house' with local knowledge. That's lifted the rather mediocre 60% success rate to »90%." It's almost as if "throw around lucrative contracts to our mates without any competition" doesn't work, and the ways we've been containing infectious disease for over a hundred years might have a point... | |||
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"Watching the latest Health Scrutiny Commission video for Leicestershire, some interesting details have come out. Firstly, they control the location of drive through test centres in the county, not central government. Secondly, the tests have increased threefold over the last month and whilst the test sites are coping with the volumes, the lab facilities who process those tests aren't. There are no reports of lack of test kits. Lastly, they are taking their 'Trace failures' from the private companies and dealing with them 'in-house' with local knowledge. That's lifted the rather mediocre 60% success rate to »90%. It's almost as if "throw around lucrative contracts to our mates without any competition" doesn't work, and the ways we've been containing infectious disease for over a hundred years might have a point..." It was a trade off. The usual procurement rules don't stop 'mates deals' (remember the ferry company that never owned a paddleboat?) but it *does* make them stand out as the process for direct awards requires high level authorisation. However, the usual procurement rules are very slow and not suited to a fast moving pandemic. It would appear that certain ministers have showed the sort of 'poor judgment' that would put you or I in jail... | |||
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"Watching the latest Health Scrutiny Commission video for Leicestershire, some interesting details have come out. Firstly, they control the location of drive through test centres in the county, not central government. Secondly, the tests have increased threefold over the last month and whilst the test sites are coping with the volumes, the lab facilities who process those tests aren't. There are no reports of lack of test kits. Lastly, they are taking their 'Trace failures' from the private companies and dealing with them 'in-house' with local knowledge. That's lifted the rather mediocre 60% success rate to »90%. It's almost as if "throw around lucrative contracts to our mates without any competition" doesn't work, and the ways we've been containing infectious disease for over a hundred years might have a point... It was a trade off. The usual procurement rules don't stop 'mates deals' (remember the ferry company that never owned a paddleboat?) but it *does* make them stand out as the process for direct awards requires high level authorisation. However, the usual procurement rules are very slow and not suited to a fast moving pandemic. It would appear that certain ministers have showed the sort of 'poor judgment' that would put you or I in jail..." Oh quite. I don't mind speeding up the process because fuck emergency. But can we skip the corruption? | |||
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"Watching the latest Health Scrutiny Commission video for Leicestershire, some interesting details have come out. Firstly, they control the location of drive through test centres in the county, not central government. Secondly, the tests have increased threefold over the last month and whilst the test sites are coping with the volumes, the lab facilities who process those tests aren't. There are no reports of lack of test kits. Lastly, they are taking their 'Trace failures' from the private companies and dealing with them 'in-house' with local knowledge. That's lifted the rather mediocre 60% success rate to »90%. It's almost as if "throw around lucrative contracts to our mates without any competition" doesn't work, and the ways we've been containing infectious disease for over a hundred years might have a point... It was a trade off. The usual procurement rules don't stop 'mates deals' (remember the ferry company that never owned a paddleboat?) but it *does* make them stand out as the process for direct awards requires high level authorisation. However, the usual procurement rules are very slow and not suited to a fast moving pandemic. It would appear that certain ministers have showed the sort of 'poor judgment' that would put you or I in jail... Oh quite. I don't mind speeding up the process because fuck emergency. But can we skip the corruption?" Honestly? 
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It's too much like locking kids in a sweetie shop overnight and expecting everything to remain untouched by the following morning.
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward." But how do you class as KEY WORKERS and would you include there family and close friends. | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward." Misuse of any public service is abhorrent, but we need to be careful about putting barriers in place. The impact of covid on lower income households is always going to be more pronounced and I certainly wouldn't want to see anyone having to make a choice between a covid test or having food on the table or topping up the gas meter. The short term answer is to increase public sector testing capacity and then mothball it once it's no longer required (instead of dismantling it) as a longer term strategy. | |||
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"I think if the test is as a result of going abroad/holiday travel, yes there should be charges. The individual factors that cost into the holiday - don't want to pay it, don't go on holiday. If going abroad is for work purposes, the employers should be charged. Wouldn't agree with charging for tests for others though." I So stay in England but go to illegal raves, house parties and into crowds but a free test
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward." Why would someone with no symptoms want to waste their own time getting a test? | |||
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"Ah scapegoats. Where would we be without them?" I thought I was the only one thinking this for a minute then It is almost like when they have blamed one section of people they are thinking up who to blame the next time they need some deflection. It is a shambles and nothing to do with anyone but themselves and the private company who were employed to deal with it | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. Why would someone with no symptoms want to waste their own time getting a test?" Exactly, all it proves is they are not positive at that moment. We should only be testing the general public who have symptoms. | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. Why would someone with no symptoms want to waste their own time getting a test?" Someone who is travelling to a country which requires a test prior to departure would need one even without symptoms. I think this is something the Canary Islands are trying to establish at both ends. | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. Why would someone with no symptoms want to waste their own time getting a test? Exactly, all it proves is they are not positive at that moment. We should only be testing the general public who have symptoms." I think I wasn't very clear, I was questioning that people were actually doing that, but it could be because they have to blame somebody so it may as well be imaginary people | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. Why would someone with no symptoms want to waste their own time getting a test? Someone who is travelling to a country which requires a test prior to departure would need one even without symptoms. I think this is something the Canary Islands are trying to establish at both ends." As I think they would have to pay for a test for that, then I can't see them admitting to it when booking a test | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. Why would someone with no symptoms want to waste their own time getting a test?" Apparently you're most infectious before you're symptomatic. I want asymptomatic spreaders to be tested so they know they need to park their arses at home and not give it to other people. | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward." A big YES from us, but not maybe the full costs, just enough to deter people from just turning up willy nilly. 10 quid a pop just enough to make them think about what they are doing and resources they may be wasting. | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. A big YES from us, but not maybe the full costs, just enough to deter people from just turning up willy nilly. 10 quid a pop just enough to make them think about what they are doing and resources they may be wasting." Have we a link on how many people are turning up willy nilly? | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. A big YES from us, but not maybe the full costs, just enough to deter people from just turning up willy nilly. 10 quid a pop just enough to make them think about what they are doing and resources they may be wasting." Who wants to mine into their brain for fun?! | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. Why would someone with no symptoms want to waste their own time getting a test? Someone who is travelling to a country which requires a test prior to departure would need one even without symptoms. I think this is something the Canary Islands are trying to establish at both ends." These people going on holiday should pay full price for the test, before receiving a fit to travel document. | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. A big YES from us, but not maybe the full costs, just enough to deter people from just turning up willy nilly. 10 quid a pop just enough to make them think about what they are doing and resources they may be wasting. Have we a link on how many people are turning up willy nilly?" Hello Lionel are you still wanting the rich to pay for everything and the poor working classes not too? | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. A big YES from us, but not maybe the full costs, just enough to deter people from just turning up willy nilly. 10 quid a pop just enough to make them think about what they are doing and resources they may be wasting. Who wants to mine into their brain for fun?!" I think there is a slight flaw in the plan. Knowing you are going to be charged for the tests if you have no symptoms..a few of the crafty buggers may not be completely truthful, when asked.. do you have symptoms? | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. Why would someone with no symptoms want to waste their own time getting a test? Someone who is travelling to a country which requires a test prior to departure would need one even without symptoms. I think this is something the Canary Islands are trying to establish at both ends. These people going on holiday should pay full price for the test, before receiving a fit to travel document." I'm prepared to pay. In Gran Canaria they are looking at a 2 minute test that costs 15 Euros at the airport. I'm in. | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. A big YES from us, but not maybe the full costs, just enough to deter people from just turning up willy nilly. 10 quid a pop just enough to make them think about what they are doing and resources they may be wasting. Have we a link on how many people are turning up willy nilly? Hello Lionel are you still wanting the rich to pay for everything and the poor working classes not too?" I'll take that as a no to my question? | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. A big YES from us, but not maybe the full costs, just enough to deter people from just turning up willy nilly. 10 quid a pop just enough to make them think about what they are doing and resources they may be wasting. Who wants to mine into their brain for fun?! I think there is a slight flaw in the plan. Knowing you are going to be charged for the tests if you have no symptoms..a few of the crafty buggers may not be completely truthful, when asked.. do you have symptoms?" I think there are less traumatic and more orgasmic ways to get your masochism kicks, tbh. | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. A big YES from us, but not maybe the full costs, just enough to deter people from just turning up willy nilly. 10 quid a pop just enough to make them think about what they are doing and resources they may be wasting." And if that's successful we could always cast the net to catch out those whingers who are looking for breast and bowel cancer screening | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. A big YES from us, but not maybe the full costs, just enough to deter people from just turning up willy nilly. 10 quid a pop just enough to make them think about what they are doing and resources they may be wasting. Have we a link on how many people are turning up willy nilly? Hello Lionel are you still wanting the rich to pay for everything and the poor working classes not too? I'll take that as a no to my question?" The information is posted all over the internet, only 18% of tested persons have proved positive some of the other 82% must have been willy nilly  | |||
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"You do get a lot of people who are not entitled to have a flu jab on the NHS wanting to pay for one because "getting the flu will interrupt their schedules" Flu jabs are not a test..different ball game to testing. Testing is the frontline in this...who said in march test test and test. We have squandered time on lining the pockets of the gvmts mates with useless apps and duff PPE." | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. A big YES from us, but not maybe the full costs, just enough to deter people from just turning up willy nilly. 10 quid a pop just enough to make them think about what they are doing and resources they may be wasting. Have we a link on how many people are turning up willy nilly? Hello Lionel are you still wanting the rich to pay for everything and the poor working classes not too? I'll take that as a no to my question? The information is posted all over the internet, only 18% of tested persons have proved positive some of the other 82% must have been willy nilly "And we know for a fact 82%had no symptoms? | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. A big YES from us, but not maybe the full costs, just enough to deter people from just turning up willy nilly. 10 quid a pop just enough to make them think about what they are doing and resources they may be wasting. And if that's successful we could always cast the net to catch out those whingers who are looking for breast and bowel cancer screening "  | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. A big YES from us, but not maybe the full costs, just enough to deter people from just turning up willy nilly. 10 quid a pop just enough to make them think about what they are doing and resources they may be wasting. Have we a link on how many people are turning up willy nilly? Hello Lionel are you still wanting the rich to pay for everything and the poor working classes not too? I'll take that as a no to my question? The information is posted all over the internet, only 18% of tested persons have proved positive some of the other 82% must have been willy nilly
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. A big YES from us, but not maybe the full costs, just enough to deter people from just turning up willy nilly. 10 quid a pop just enough to make them think about what they are doing and resources they may be wasting. Have we a link on how many people are turning up willy nilly? Hello Lionel are you still wanting the rich to pay for everything and the poor working classes not too? I'll take that as a no to my question? The information is posted all over the internet, only 18% of tested persons have proved positive some of the other 82% must have been willy nilly "ONS or some random website because the latter are to be trusted of course? | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. A big YES from us, but not maybe the full costs, just enough to deter people from just turning up willy nilly. 10 quid a pop just enough to make them think about what they are doing and resources they may be wasting. Have we a link on how many people are turning up willy nilly? Hello Lionel are you still wanting the rich to pay for everything and the poor working classes not too? I'll take that as a no to my question? The information is posted all over the internet, only 18% of tested persons have proved positive some of the other 82% must have been willy nilly
ONS or some random website because the latter are to be trusted of course?"Please use the ONS the figures are still the figures | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. Why would someone with no symptoms want to waste their own time getting a test?" | |||
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"If they are going to start charging I want something a bit more accurate that 70%" | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. A big YES from us, but not maybe the full costs, just enough to deter people from just turning up willy nilly. 10 quid a pop just enough to make them think about what they are doing and resources they may be wasting. Have we a link on how many people are turning up willy nilly? Hello Lionel are you still wanting the rich to pay for everything and the poor working classes not too? I'll take that as a no to my question? The information is posted all over the internet, only 18% of tested persons have proved positive some of the other 82% must have been willy nilly
ONS or some random website because the latter are to be trusted of course?
Please use the ONS the figures are still the figures"Are they in agreement with the ones all over the internet? | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. Why would someone with no symptoms want to waste their own time getting a test? Apparently you're most infectious before you're symptomatic. I want asymptomatic spreaders to be tested so they know they need to park their arses at home and not give it to other people." crazy talk!!!! | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. A big YES from us, but not maybe the full costs, just enough to deter people from just turning up willy nilly. 10 quid a pop just enough to make them think about what they are doing and resources they may be wasting. Have we a link on how many people are turning up willy nilly? Hello Lionel are you still wanting the rich to pay for everything and the poor working classes not too? I'll take that as a no to my question? The information is posted all over the internet, only 18% of tested persons have proved positive some of the other 82% must have been willy nilly
ONS or some random website because the latter are to be trusted of course?
Please use the ONS the figures are still the figures
Are they in agreement with the ones all over the internet?"They are one set of figures available on the internet, and we can debate those figures, i am not trying to fabricate figures | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. A big YES from us, but not maybe the full costs, just enough to deter people from just turning up willy nilly. 10 quid a pop just enough to make them think about what they are doing and resources they may be wasting. Have we a link on how many people are turning up willy nilly? Hello Lionel are you still wanting the rich to pay for everything and the poor working classes not too? I'll take that as a no to my question? The information is posted all over the internet, only 18% of tested persons have proved positive some of the other 82% must have been willy nilly
ONS or some random website because the latter are to be trusted of course?
Please use the ONS the figures are still the figures
Are they in agreement with the ones all over the internet?
They are one set of figures available on the internet, and we can debate those figures, i am not trying to fabricate figures"Not suggesting you are, even with that figure that's still what, in excess of 11.5 million positive..? | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. Why would someone with no symptoms want to waste their own time getting a test? Apparently you're most infectious before you're symptomatic. I want asymptomatic spreaders to be tested so they know they need to park their arses at home and not give it to other people. crazy talk!!!! " Containing a pandemic. Yes. Crazy | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. Why would someone with no symptoms want to waste their own time getting a test? Apparently you're most infectious before you're symptomatic. I want asymptomatic spreaders to be tested so they know they need to park their arses at home and not give it to other people. crazy talk!!!! Containing a pandemic. Yes. Crazy "Of course a positive PCR test doesn't mean you are infectious. They are way too sensitive. | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. Why would someone with no symptoms want to waste their own time getting a test? Apparently you're most infectious before you're symptomatic. I want asymptomatic spreaders to be tested so they know they need to park their arses at home and not give it to other people. crazy talk!!!! Containing a pandemic. Yes. Crazy
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"Ah scapegoats. Where would we be without them? I thought I was the only one thinking this for a minute then It is almost like when they have blamed one section of people they are thinking up who to blame the next time they need some deflection. It is a shambles and nothing to do with anyone but themselves and the private company who were employed to deal with it" Your by far from being alone...I have said the same on the shambles thread. But plenty on here seem to defend them and go along with the blame game. | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. A big YES from us, but not maybe the full costs, just enough to deter people from just turning up willy nilly. 10 quid a pop just enough to make them think about what they are doing and resources they may be wasting. Have we a link on how many people are turning up willy nilly? Hello Lionel are you still wanting the rich to pay for everything and the poor working classes not too? I'll take that as a no to my question? The information is posted all over the internet, only 18% of tested persons have proved positive some of the other 82% must have been willy nilly
And we know for a fact 82%had no symptoms?
Lionel, you're moving those "goal posts" again, you little lefty you "Jesus you take the biscuit 18% are positive...but the others are all spending their valuable time trying to get a test to return to work as a doctor..teacher ect..because they have been into contact with someone who is infected. They need the frigging test to work. But you would put that down to willy nilly...priceless  | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. Why would someone with no symptoms want to waste their own time getting a test?" People are going with no symptoms to take a test, on the interview they asked why and she said "because im protecting my family just in case". Coronavirus anxiety is rife and continuous testing has become a habit for some  | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward." People are just trying to be responsible in getting tested. It's not their fault that the world beating system that's had months to prepare is buckling under the strain. | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. People are just trying to be responsible in getting tested. It's not their fault that the world beating system that's had months to prepare is buckling under the strain. " I can see that in some cases, but with the amount of gov inadequacies of getting this to a stable level that it should be and thats not going to change any time soon. The key workers not able to get a test and are self isolating instead, does it not make sense to charge and stop the ones who are testing with no symptoms, so we can get our key workers back to work? | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. A big YES from us, but not maybe the full costs, just enough to deter people from just turning up willy nilly. 10 quid a pop just enough to make them think about what they are doing and resources they may be wasting. Have we a link on how many people are turning up willy nilly? Hello Lionel are you still wanting the rich to pay for everything and the poor working classes not too? I'll take that as a no to my question? The information is posted all over the internet, only 18% of tested persons have proved positive some of the other 82% must have been willy nilly
And we know for a fact 82%had no symptoms?
Lionel, you're moving those "goal posts" again, you little lefty you
Jesus you take the biscuit
18% are positive...but the others are all spending their valuable time trying to get a test to return to work as a doctor..teacher ect..because they have been into contact with someone who is infected. They need the frigging test to work. But you would put that down to willy nilly...priceless "Where has 18% positives come from. Our latest positivity rate is 1.3%. | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. Why would someone with no symptoms want to waste their own time getting a test? People are going with no symptoms to take a test, on the interview they asked why and she said "because im protecting my family just in case". Coronavirus anxiety is rife and continuous testing has become a habit for some "Absolutely agree with this, people have been given the fear by all the scare tactics employed. Also, if people are spreading the virus whilst asymptomatic, if they wait till they show symptoms themselves before being allowed to test then it's too late so surely testing ad hoc does have a place. | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. A big YES from us, but not maybe the full costs, just enough to deter people from just turning up willy nilly. 10 quid a pop just enough to make them think about what they are doing and resources they may be wasting. Have we a link on how many people are turning up willy nilly? Hello Lionel are you still wanting the rich to pay for everything and the poor working classes not too? I'll take that as a no to my question? The information is posted all over the internet, only 18% of tested persons have proved positive some of the other 82% must have been willy nilly
And we know for a fact 82%had no symptoms?
Lionel, you're moving those "goal posts" again, you little lefty you
Jesus you take the biscuit
18% are positive...but the others are all spending their valuable time trying to get a test to return to work as a doctor..teacher ect..because they have been into contact with someone who is infected. They need the frigging test to work. But you would put that down to willy nilly...priceless
Where has 18% positives come from. Our latest positivity rate is 1.3%."Ffs I misread it...seen the 82% and done the maths but missed the symptoms bit 
The rest of it I stand by as that 82% the biggest majority will have a good reason for a test | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. A big YES from us, but not maybe the full costs, just enough to deter people from just turning up willy nilly. 10 quid a pop just enough to make them think about what they are doing and resources they may be wasting. Have we a link on how many people are turning up willy nilly? Hello Lionel are you still wanting the rich to pay for everything and the poor working classes not too? I'll take that as a no to my question? The information is posted all over the internet, only 18% of tested persons have proved positive some of the other 82% must have been willy nilly
And we know for a fact 82%had no symptoms?
Lionel, you're moving those "goal posts" again, you little lefty you
Jesus you take the biscuit
18% are positive...but the others are all spending their valuable time trying to get a test to return to work as a doctor..teacher ect..because they have been into contact with someone who is infected. They need the frigging test to work. But you would put that down to willy nilly...priceless
Where has 18% positives come from. Our latest positivity rate is 1.3%.
Ffs I misread it...seen the 82% and done the maths but missed the symptoms bit
The rest of it I stand by as that 82% the biggest majority will have a good reason for a test "Given that the false positive rate for a PCR test can be up to 5%, the 1.3% positives are probably mostly false. Which is why almost nobody's dying of covid anymore. | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. People are just trying to be responsible in getting tested. It's not their fault that the world beating system that's had months to prepare is buckling under the strain. I can see that in some cases, but with the amount of gov inadequacies of getting this to a stable level that it should be and thats not going to change any time soon. The key workers not able to get a test and are self isolating instead, does it not make sense to charge and stop the ones who are testing with no symptoms, so we can get our key workers back to work?" Charging for testing that's required both for someone's health care but also to protect the rest of the population is nonsensical. Testing benefits the country and can be afforded by the country. The prioritisation for a limited testing resource is a separate point and it has merit.but full details of what additional capacity is going to be available should be revealed urgently, whilst people are left in danger. Rather than telling is what capacity we will have at the end of October, we should be told the changes to capacity before that. | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. People are just trying to be responsible in getting tested. It's not their fault that the world beating system that's had months to prepare is buckling under the strain. I can see that in some cases, but with the amount of gov inadequacies of getting this to a stable level that it should be and thats not going to change any time soon. The key workers not able to get a test and are self isolating instead, does it not make sense to charge and stop the ones who are testing with no symptoms, so we can get our key workers back to work? Charging for testing that's required both for someone's health care but also to protect the rest of the population is nonsensical. Testing benefits the country and can be afforded by the country. The prioritisation for a limited testing resource is a separate point and it has merit.but full details of what additional capacity is going to be available should be revealed urgently, whilst people are left in danger. Rather than telling is what capacity we will have at the end of October, we should be told the changes to capacity before that. "
They need to stop blaming the public, stop trying to make charging for healthcare look palatable, and get their shit together | |||
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"After watching the interviews on bbc news, it is time to start charging people for tests who are not vulnerable and keyworker staff. Blatant misuse of the testing system will continue, "If I want a test im going to take one" attitude is hardly surprising but not the way forward. Why would someone with no symptoms want to waste their own time getting a test? Apparently you're most infectious before you're symptomatic. I want asymptomatic spreaders to be tested so they know they need to park their arses at home and not give it to other people." True | |||
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"We're the sixth richest economy in the world. This is a public health emergency. It's not personal choice or personal suffering. Each person who is infectious is a threat to everybody else. It's in everyone's interests to get this under control. The government need to get their shit together and get it done. Idgaf if anyone thinks that people are being tested for no reason. This is on the government."
They have been saying schools will go back and fair play to them for doing so, one thing the unions and teachers were being castigated for was their insistence that an effective testing system was and is fundamental to that..
It is commonly known that when schools do go back the sniffles and bugs pass around..
Now they are looking to prioritize rightly so for NHS staff etc and it looks like the end of October till they will get on top of it..
It's like March all over again with the difference being Billions have been spent, some on dodgy deals with friends ..
A complete cluster fuck.. | |||
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"I didn't realise the track and trave had been privately run? Apparently serco were paid an £108m initial fee. No wonder they are blaming the public." I knew all along. Serco Track and Trace have been a disaster, so relabel it with NHS and tell us we're all morons Maybe the government should govern and Serco should meet performance benchmarks or gtfo | |||
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"I didn't realise the track and trave had been privately run? Apparently serco were paid an £108m initial fee. No wonder they are blaming the public." The same company that has been committing fraud and false accounting, yup that's the one.. Fingers in many pies, friends in high places.. | |||
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