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"If this is the case, and its looking increasingly likely. What is everybodies opinion of these measures being here to stay. (social distancing, face masks etc). Not going to lie makes me feel very uneasy. " Coughing your guts up would probably be uneasy too | |||
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"If this is the case, and its looking increasingly likely. What is everybodies opinion of these measures being here to stay. (social distancing, face masks etc). Not going to lie makes me feel very uneasy. Coughing your guts up would probably be uneasy too" But you'd still be coughing you're guts up with or without masks. As I've said before I'm wearing mine everywhere, but the science behind there effectiveness is shaky at best. So in summary if this is endemic you would be prepared to wear face masks forever. | |||
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"If this is the case, and its looking increasingly likely. What is everybodies opinion of these measures being here to stay. (social distancing, face masks etc). Not going to lie makes me feel very uneasy. " There's been so many threads on this subject but you my friend are a open minded guy and I've enjoyed your commentary on this subject. Let's hope people can find middle ground and understand each others points of view. First I must say there's a Political crisis as much as a medical crisis so let's not be divided. Yes it's been tough year and I will say I'm sceptical of this Government and the mistake mis use of power. That said I respect my health and others period. Social distancing and hygiene is good, face masks I wear because it's not a hardship but whether they are effective in stopping Respiratory droplets ect who knows? Sweden is showing the world the way and the WHO endorsed their accomplishments in Fighting covid,although am not that trusting of WHO. | |||
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"If this is the case, and its looking increasingly likely. What is everybodies opinion of these measures being here to stay. (social distancing, face masks etc). Not going to lie makes me feel very uneasy. There's been so many threads on this subject but you my friend are a open minded guy and I've enjoyed your commentary on this subject. Let's hope people can find middle ground and understand each others points of view. First I must say there's a Political crisis as much as a medical crisis so let's not be divided. Yes it's been tough year and I will say I'm sceptical of this Government and the mistake mis use of power. That said I respect my health and others period. Social distancing and hygiene is good, face masks I wear because it's not a hardship but whether they are effective in stopping Respiratory droplets ect who knows? Sweden is showing the world the way and the WHO endorsed their accomplishments in Fighting covid,although am not that trusting of WHO." I think that's a very sensible outlook mate. Yeah the reason I wear my face mask is out of respect for others. It isn't a hardship but if they aren't effective then wearing them is purely psychological. That's what scares me. | |||
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"If this is the case, and its looking increasingly likely. What is everybodies opinion of these measures being here to stay. (social distancing, face masks etc). Not going to lie makes me feel very uneasy. Coughing your guts up would probably be uneasy too But you'd still be coughing you're guts up with or without masks. As I've said before I'm wearing mine everywhere, but the science behind there effectiveness is shaky at best. So in summary if this is endemic you would be prepared to wear face masks forever. " Nothing even slightly shaky about the efficacy of masks. It's just plain common sense. A physical barrier that will, to a decent extent (and any extent is worthwhile) restrict output of spit and such, and therefore obviously reduce likekihood of spread. Simples. | |||
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"If this is the case, and its looking increasingly likely. What is everybodies opinion of these measures being here to stay. (social distancing, face masks etc). Not going to lie makes me feel very uneasy. Coughing your guts up would probably be uneasy too But you'd still be coughing you're guts up with or without masks. As I've said before I'm wearing mine everywhere, but the science behind there effectiveness is shaky at best. So in summary if this is endemic you would be prepared to wear face masks forever. Nothing even slightly shaky about the efficacy of masks. It's just plain common sense. A physical barrier that will, to a decent extent (and any extent is worthwhile) restrict output of spit and such, and therefore obviously reduce likekihood of spread. Simples." Read any report on face masks and their efficiency before this pandemic. The science suggests the longer you wear them the less effective they become at stopping moisture. You are 100% correct that it is common sense that a barrier is better than none. However previous scientific studies did not suggest that. | |||
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"If this is the case, and its looking increasingly likely. What is everybodies opinion of these measures being here to stay. (social distancing, face masks etc). Not going to lie makes me feel very uneasy. " It is already endemic. There is absolutely no chance that Covid will be eradicated worldwide, it's far too widespread. The concept of social controls in particular indefinitely SHOULD make you uneasy, hell it should make you downright terrified. The use of masks seems to cause controversy - I can't honestly see why - they don't do harm and may do good so what's the issue. Much more concerning to me is the level of government overreach - controlling (or trying to!) almost every aspect of daily life, right down to dictating how many people I can have in my own home. We are sleepwalking into a dystopian nightmare in the name of 'staying safe', 'protecting the vulnerable' and 'saving lives'... 1984 was meant as a warning, not an instruction manual. | |||
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"If a face mask is good enough for a surgeon it's good enough for me. If they thought it was a waste of time they wouldn't bother wearing one. As for the norm? Nothing surprises me. It's inevitable we will be living in a more sanitised world, a sanatised utopia a la Logan's Run. The Eden project is coming to your town. Biosphere's, biosuits ecotents, safe zones. It's what the rest of the 21st century will become. Science fact. "Well a surgeon only wears a mask because they are doing open surgery on someone. surgeons has said masks are useless when it comes to any type of coronavirus. If a surgeon is feeling unwell with a cold for example they will not perform surgery that day because even surgery masks are useless. Plus surgeons will never wear the same mask twice they get binned straight away. So many people wearing masks over and over. Leaving them in pockets or cars. And dont get me started on the home made cloth ones. | |||
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"Change is always happening to society. Face masks will become the norm (some may argue they should be the norm anyway with the normal flu season). If you have a cough or cold/flu like symptoms you will stay home rather than going to work. Unless you are younger and have no close contact with older people or those with an underlying health condition then you should be maintaining social distancing and not going anywhere with large gatherings. Most of this is common sense when living through a pandemic." Either vaccine, effective treatment or a mutation to a less infectious strain (there's more than one strain circulating anyway) will be the end game. | |||
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"If a face mask is good enough for a surgeon it's good enough for me. If they thought it was a waste of time they wouldn't bother wearing one. As for the norm? Nothing surprises me. It's inevitable we will be living in a more sanitised world, a sanatised utopia a la Logan's Run. The Eden project is coming to your town. Biosphere's, biosuits ecotents, safe zones. It's what the rest of the 21st century will become. Science fact.
Well a surgeon only wears a mask because they are doing open surgery on someone.
surgeons has said masks are useless when it comes to any type of coronavirus.
If a surgeon is feeling unwell with a cold for example they will not perform surgery that day because even surgery masks are useless.
Plus surgeons will never wear the same mask twice they get binned straight away.
So many people wearing masks over and over.
Leaving them in pockets or cars.
And dont get me started on the home made cloth ones. "I have made home made masks, they are just as good as the ones being sold in some shops. They are double thickness and snug fitting. I also wash them and use a clean one each trip out. I have made them for all my son's and Thier mates. So kindly don't sneer at home sewn facemasks. There are a lot of single thickness masks being sold in shops,made of thinner material than the ones I have made. Also it is mandatory to wear "a face covering" NOT a facemask. | |||
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"If this is the case, and its looking increasingly likely. What is everybodies opinion of these measures being here to stay. (social distancing, face masks etc). Not going to lie makes me feel very uneasy. It is already endemic. There is absolutely no chance that Covid will be eradicated worldwide, it's far too widespread. The concept of social controls in particular indefinitely SHOULD make you uneasy, hell it should make you downright terrified. The use of masks seems to cause controversy - I can't honestly see why - they don't do harm and may do good so what's the issue. Much more concerning to me is the level of government overreach - controlling (or trying to!) almost every aspect of daily life, right down to dictating how many people I can have in my own home. We are sleepwalking into a dystopian nightmare in the name of 'staying safe', 'protecting the vulnerable' and 'saving lives'... 1984 was meant as a warning, not an instruction manual."  | |||
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"If this is the case, and its looking increasingly likely. What is everybodies opinion of these measures being here to stay. (social distancing, face masks etc). Not going to lie makes me feel very uneasy. Coughing your guts up would probably be uneasy too But you'd still be coughing you're guts up with or without masks. As I've said before I'm wearing mine everywhere, but the science behind there effectiveness is shaky at best. So in summary if this is endemic you would be prepared to wear face masks forever. " Yes | |||
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"ill be thinking that the human immune system is an incredible thing and I'll not be wearing a mask daily and we will all soon adapt and itll become just another flu... i believe it's already happening as the hospitalisations and deaths have fallen constantly and are very very low. and yes I know someone who has had corona "Yeah, kind of. Flu is another endemic virus we have to deal with and like flu corona mutates into different strains every year. So we live with flu and when we catch it take action to deal with it then. Flu jabs are available each year to help us deal/build immunity with the strain medical professionals think will be around that winter. What we don't do with flu is permenantly alter our behaviour in the fear we may catch it. I'm not being dramatic here, but I don't want to live in a world where we are forever required to wear facial protection. A world we're I can't dance on a dance floor or sing karaoke. Sit in a packed cinema or a crowded theatre. Finally I don't want to live in a world without swinging. It's not the sex but the lifestyle, all my life I have been shunned and ostriscised by other sections of society. Swinging was the first place I felt I belonged. It may be selfish but the thought of all that being gone terrifies me. | |||
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"If this is the case, and its looking increasingly likely. What is everybodies opinion of these measures being here to stay. (social distancing, face masks etc). Not going to lie makes me feel very uneasy. Coughing your guts up would probably be uneasy too But you'd still be coughing you're guts up with or without masks. As I've said before I'm wearing mine everywhere, but the science behind there effectiveness is shaky at best. So in summary if this is endemic you would be prepared to wear face masks forever. " Perhaps surgery should be done without them?  | |||
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"No. I think we are reaching the limit to peoples tolerance with all these restrictions, and going backwards is not going to help. I've been pretty solid with most things, I'm not happy about it all but tolatally understand why, but now as there is no end in sight anytime soon I'm starting to agree with the just get on with lifers. I don't think I'll be running to the next illegal rave or anything but when you see everyone else doing stuff and not giving a shit maybe we are the ones that have it wrong. Living like a hermit and still not getting anywhere. " For me and my lifestyle it isn't living. We are being conditioned to think that if you don't comply 100% with the rules, you are personally responsible for someone's death. I felt a massive amount of empathy with younger people when they were told it was there fault the virus was spreading. I thought it was a really horrible thing to say and do. | |||
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"If a face mask is good enough for a surgeon it's good enough for me. If they thought it was a waste of time they wouldn't bother wearing one. As for the norm? Nothing surprises me. It's inevitable we will be living in a more sanitised world, a sanatised utopia a la Logan's Run. The Eden project is coming to your town. Biosphere's, biosuits ecotents, safe zones. It's what the rest of the 21st century will become. Science fact.
Well a surgeon only wears a mask because they are doing open surgery on someone.
surgeons has said masks are useless when it comes to any type of coronavirus.
If a surgeon is feeling unwell with a cold for example they will not perform surgery that day because even surgery masks are useless.
Plus surgeons will never wear the same mask twice they get binned straight away.
So many people wearing masks over and over.
Leaving them in pockets or cars.
And dont get me started on the home made cloth ones. "Have you got a reference/link to quote by a doctor/surgeon | |||
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