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By *az080378 OP Woman
over a year ago

Cromer

Reading a new article today about the governments hopes that everyone could take an antigen test every morning to unlock the country and get things back to 'normal'

I think this is a great idea but how possible is it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

From reading other posts and various media reports etc they are currently not even managing to keep up with the current demand at testing centres or home tests and expecting potentially infected people to drive 100+ miles to access a test. So I wouldn't really bank on anything more advanced at the moment.

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By *az080378 OP Woman
over a year ago

Cromer

"From reading other posts and various media reports etc they are currently not even managing to keep up with the current demand at testing centres or home tests and expecting potentially infected people to drive 100+ miles to access a test. So I wouldn't really bank on anything more advanced at the moment. "

I know, hopes are low, France are apparently bringing the tests in (I don't know how they plan to use them) but it would be a fantastic resource to have.

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By *plpxp2Couple
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

66 millions tests per day sounds very possible

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

I was just reading about how the shortage is down to people who aren't eligible for a test getting one anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"66 millions tests per day sounds very possible

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

There was a paper about that sort of thing from an American public health expert a couple of months ago (Google Michael Mina Covid testing). He envisages a cheap rapid (lower sensitivity) spit test that you take each day before you go out. And yes it'll miss some infection, but less than if you can only be tested infrequently.

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry

I was just reading about how the shortage is down to people who aren't eligible for a test getting one anyway. "

Hat Mancock strikes again. I'm starting to feel sorry for the unfortunate soul.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was just reading about how the shortage is down to people who aren't eligible for a test getting one anyway. "

Beware of Government spin. Everyone else to blame except Boris and co.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I heard - on an American podcast - that there might be a coming shortage of components for the current test. A reason to look for different tests.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can walk in ant pharmacy in France and do a test then and there

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

I was just reading about how the shortage is down to people who aren't eligible for a test getting one anyway.

Beware of Government spin. Everyone else to blame except Boris and co."

It makes sense though, people were getting tests for no reason, wasting resources, wasting NHS money and time. We need to start accepting that we, as a nation, have also fucked up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All things are possible but quick tests are not the most accurate or reliable.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"All things are possible but quick tests are not the most accurate or reliable."

Yes. But the idea of the quick test is to do it regularly. Frequent tests are going to pick up more than rare tests.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

There's a trial of this taking place shortly that I've been asked to be part of.

It's a home DIY test kit that requires no lab processing at all - that'll make things much quicker.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"There's a trial of this taking place shortly that I've been asked to be part of.

It's a home DIY test kit that requires no lab processing at all - that'll make things much quicker."

Amazing. Hopefully it'll work, and help.

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By *llabouttheladyMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

Probably utter bollocks as usual.

Gov sat on millions on 98% accurate antibody tests but not willing to use them.

Give me a 98% accurate anything in life and I’ll have it.

Utter shite

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"Probably utter bollocks as usual.

Gov sat on millions on 98% accurate antibody tests but not willing to use them.

Give me a 98% accurate anything in life and I’ll have it.

Utter shite"

Well I have the letter on tbe desk in front of me from DHSC, NHS and Imperial College London, so the trial is not bollocks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pigs can fly. They can't cope with current tests and just come on today giving off that too many people coming for testing that don't qualify.

A problem the government has is that they are inconsistent at best. It doesn't take long for the cry woof syndrome to kick in and people just ignore what they say. There's an element of that creeping in more as the government keeps changing their minds about things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There's a trial of this taking place shortly that I've been asked to be part of.

It's a home DIY test kit that requires no lab processing at all - that'll make things much quicker."

They can't even cope at the moment. A lot of what's being done or saying they're going to do in relation to tests etc, they know they can't follow through but need to show they are doing something.

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By *llabouttheladyMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

It’s all bollocks

They are pulling down our pants and dry bumming us with 12 inch worth.

They are sat on millions of 98% accurate antibody tests and not using em, but dicking around with another trial.

Bend over

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"There's a trial of this taking place shortly that I've been asked to be part of.

It's a home DIY test kit that requires no lab processing at all - that'll make things much quicker.

They can't even cope at the moment. A lot of what's being done or saying they're going to do in relation to tests etc, they know they can't follow through but need to show they are doing something."

As I said, this is a DIY test - you do it at home and read your own results 15 minutes later - no testing lab, no equipment needed, no processing of any description.

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By *llabouttheladyMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

They are letting it run through society on the advice of the Imperial College London

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"They are letting it run through society on the advice of the Imperial College London

Evidence of that?

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By *llabouttheladyMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

Imperial college London report 9

Have a read

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

They are apparently bringing in pre-event testing next April for larger scale events. This is mandatory the day before the event and obviously has to be negative. I would love to know how they are going to get that many tests done in a single day given the fact they can't cope with the current volume of testing and you can't even get a kit to home test and send off either?

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By *llabouttheladyMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

All they have done since March is kick the can down the road.

What lockdown prevented needs to happen

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"Imperial college London report 9

Have a read "

It has two proposals, mitigation or suppression.

They recommend suppression, which does not mean letting covid run free.

If you're going to cite research, and make claims supposedly supported by it, it mignt pay to read and understand it first.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"All they have done since March is kick the can down the road.

What lockdown prevented needs to happen"

What, collapse the healthcare system and more needless deaths?

No thanks

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By *hilledout-coupleCouple
over a year ago

telford

Some people won’t get a test on the basis they know they will have to stay in for 2 weeks. So is pure ignorance that because they don’t want to get tested they can do what they want

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"All they have done since March is kick the can down the road.

What lockdown prevented needs to happen"

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

"All they have done since March is kick the can down the road.

What lockdown prevented needs to happen

It's getting dark in here, someone needs to turn the lights on

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

We should have been perfecting test and tracing before the winter but seem to not have that effective yet. We are way off the 80%of those infected having their contacts traced, that would be needed to lower levels. If we can't do this. I am very dubious about creating a new type of test and regime and having it work.

A fraction of the money could pay everyone at risk of infection to stay home in quarantine for 2 weeks on full pay. The contacts as the possibile newly infected, should be our priority to keep them away from others.

Tests won't show positive for all people, so could give false confidence to many, for them to engage dangerous with others.

I've said that we should be testing more widely, to identify who has it, to restrict those from infecting others though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know I'm guilty of courting controversy on this forum and well aware that my views may not be to everyone's liking but I'm keeping this post strictly factual and free from opinion.

Tests :

rt-PCR - Needs a full-scale lab & lab techs plus complex machinery to run tests at scale. Best by far for accuracy but also time consuming to run. Highly doubtful we will ever have capacity to test everyone regularly.

rt-LAMP - Less complex to perform but still needs specialized test equipment. Faster results (can be as quick as 20 minutes) but not as accurate as rt-PCR

Antigen - The newest to market. Easiest test to perform (still needs a swab) and the fastest to give results (around 12 minutes). Needs a dedicated test machine but no specific skills to operate it.

All of the 'rapid tests' released so far are rt-LAMP style tests. Some can be performed using saliva, most require a swab. All need some skill to perform & relatively expensive test equipment.

The Scottish Government have invested in antigen tests from LumiraDx which claim a 12 minute turnaround time and accuracy comparable with rt-PCR. If this can be scaled it probably offers the best chance for mass testing although I suspect that would be on a commercial basis (purely due to the fact that the private sector is more likely to be able to rapidly establish the infrastructure needed than the government).

That, to the best of my knowledge, is the current state of play as regards Covid-19 testing (for active disease - antibody tests for previous infection are a completely different story!)

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands

I was just reading about how the shortage is down to people who aren't eligible for a test getting one anyway. "

I am not eligible but have to have a test before my heart operation can take place.

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By *ancs_tgirl_38TV/TS
over a year ago

Blackpool

I've got a sea view property in Oxford to sell you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Probably utter bollocks as usual.

Gov sat on millions on 98% accurate antibody tests but not willing to use them.

Give me a 98% accurate anything in life and I’ll have it.

Utter shite"

The first ones were "claimed" to be 98% accurate by China. When they were checked they were actually under 70% accurate. The option was then not taken up. But hey....dont let simple facts get in the way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some people won’t get a test on the basis they know they will have to stay in for 2 weeks. So is pure ignorance that because they don’t want to get tested they can do what they want "

ONLY if test is positive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was just reading about how the shortage is down to people who aren't eligible for a test getting one anyway. "

They gave three different reasons in less than 24 hours, this must be the one that tested best with the focus groups.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If, as the Prime Minister (who definitely does not have a reputation as a pathological liar and hasn't lost at least two jobs because of his lying) says, we have the capacity to run 375,000 tests per day just how many people who don't qualify for tests are getting them?

On a completely unrelated note, two testing sites in my area have been closed down.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

I was just reading about how the shortage is down to people who aren't eligible for a test getting one anyway.

Beware of Government spin. Everyone else to blame except Boris and co.

It makes sense though, people were getting tests for no reason, wasting resources, wasting NHS money and time. We need to start accepting that we, as a nation, have also fucked up. "

Because the guy who gave his unqualified friend on the back of her donating money to his bid to be PM says so?

Thus far it's been blame the NHS and care staff for misuse of PPE..

Then blame the public for not turning up to be tested..

Now its this latest deflection..

Boris had no answer to Starmer telling him that there was an excess of 75,000 tests not used on Tuesday ..

And issues with distances expected to travel are rife but it's all down to a school sending a year group for testing..

Please..

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

The aim has been to blame anyone but BoJo and Co from the start.

He's done the best he can if he's a child whose colouring is a bit sloppy.

He's not a child, he's the fucking Prime Minister. He should act like it and take the responsibility he signed up for.

Incompetence isn't cute, no matter how posh you are.

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