FabSwingers.com forum: Back to school

By *ackformore100 OP Man
over a year ago

Tin town

OK, apologies if this has been done to death but I think this is a slightly different take on it.

I know there are a few who want to stay safe and are anti going back to school. And I know there's a lot who have been desperate to get the kids become but for me yesterday it became personal and relevant. Don't need to be having that debate again. They are back.

My lad, who is a big bruiser, clever and self sufficient. Admitted he was anxious about going back, saying he was happy with the way things have been and had no idea how he would cope going back for the first time after 6 months. It painted the whole thing in a different light for me.... I'd never even considered that the kids may be having their own issues about returning. Did others experience this too?

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

I’m surprised you never even thought about how the kids would feel .....

Lots of children are struggling in the return this week, confident or not. Little ones out of routine, older ones understanding the implications, it’s a really really stressful week.

62 schools accords the UK already have cases some of them closing already. We are in for a bumpy ride.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've got 3 going back tomorrow.

Year 10 year 9 and one still in primary in year 5. All chilled about it and looking forward. They all went for a few days/weeks back in July so know what to expect regarding the changes to the set up etc. Definitely in their best interests to go back to school

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By *ackformore100 OP Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"I’m surprised you never even thought about how the kids would feel .....

Lots of children are struggling in the return this week, confident or not. Little ones out of routine, older ones understanding the implications, it’s a really really stressful week.

62 schools accords the UK already have cases some of them closing already. We are in for a bumpy ride. "

In my case I'd been asking the question and he'd always said... In that teenage macho way... "yeah no worries" but when it came to it... It has been troubling him...

To your point re transmissions... With such stupidly high numbers in the community now... Im with you. I thinks its going to be far from straight forward.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"OK, apologies if this has been done to death but I think this is a slightly different take on it.

Did you not think he might be

On the plus side he was comfortable in opening up..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not much you can do if you ask a teenager how they're feeling about things and they just grunt.

Everyone is in the same boat I suppose. It's just as worrying for people going back into work. Support each other.

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By *ackformore100 OP Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Not much you can do if you ask a teenager how they're feeling about things and they just grunt.

Everyone is in the same boat I suppose. It's just as worrying for people going back into work. Support each other."

Support each other

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

manchester

"I’m surprised you never even thought about how the kids would feel .....

Lots of children are struggling in the return this week, confident or not. Little ones out of routine, older ones understanding the implications, it’s a really really stressful week.

62 schools accords the UK already have cases some of them closing already. We are in for a bumpy ride. "

Really good point

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

manchester

We need to close pubs immediately

Help the vulnerabke

. And shield the high risk asap

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We need to close pubs immediately

Help the vulnerabke

. And shield the high risk asap "

No we don't right now. We need to continue with local lockdowns where cases are high

Spare a thought for the people dying of other things because they couldn't or didn't get treatment due to the restrictions. And also all the people killing themselves because they can't cope with the Coronavirus situation.

There are a lot more vunerable people out there than the ones you keep ordering us to protect.

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By *riar BelisseWoman
over a year ago

Delightful Bliss

"We need to close pubs immediately

Help the vulnerabke

. And shield the high risk asap "

No we need to keep it simple. Social distance, wear a face covering indoors and frequently wash/sanitize your hands

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

My lad goes back Thursday and he can’t wait to see his friends and have the school routine.

He’s fully aware of everything that has been put in place for them to make them have a safe and productive learning space. Everyone, if they wish to do so, can wear a mask. There are also extra counsellors available for all to talk about the last 6 months and how they are feeling now on return. All classes will have the same form teacher they had last year (normally changes) but they wanted familiarity on all sides for various reasons. The school has done a great job.

His only doubt was he may bring it home to me, I just said it’s no different than when we go food shopping, we have our routine when we return and you will do the same returning from school

The kids have suffered these last six months and they need some normality back in their lives.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

The school boris visited to show was safe has been closed after a Corona outbreak.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The school boris visited to show was safe has been closed after a Corona outbreak."

And for once he wasn't the one spreading the virus

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"The school boris visited to show was safe has been closed after a Corona outbreak.

And for once he wasn't the one spreading the virus

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My kids were excited but one of my twins who is 10, he came out of school on Friday looking ready to burst, his face was red and full of pressure. He said he had to run and get out of there, its like a prison he said

He has become so used to his freedom and now has gone back to a school that is very strict on everything, so different to the school he knew.

He wants to be home schooled. I wish I could

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By *ackformore100 OP Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"The school boris visited to show was safe has been closed after a Corona outbreak."

That's a shame. But I'm sure it's closed due to the outbreak not due to Boris visiting it.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

"The school boris visited to show was safe has been closed after a Corona outbreak."

.... and I’m sure there will be more, but we just have to deal with them on an individual basis

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

Both of mine yr10 & y13 were looking forward to going back but have both said that there is hardly any social distancing going on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My kids both went back to school on Thursday last week, today we had a confirmed case. They go to a small village school so I hoped that would make things safer but obviously not. Luckily the case wasn’t in either of my kids bubbles but it’s still worrying that they have one after just 2 days.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

My daughter suffered terribly over lockdown and was very anxious about going back but the difference in her has been dramatic, she's enjoying being back and she desperately needed it.

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

manchester

"My lad goes back Thursday and he can’t wait to see his friends and have the school routine.

His only doubt was he may bring it home to me, I just said it’s no different than when we go food shopping, we have our routine when we return and you will do the same returning from school

The kids have suffered these last six months and they need some normality back in their lives. "

What t if its brought back to a vulnerable or at risk person

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"My lad goes back Thursday and he can’t wait to see his friends and have the school routine.

His only doubt was he may bring it home to me, I just said it’s no different than when we go food shopping, we have our routine when we return and you will do the same returning from school

The kids have suffered these last six months and they need some normality back in their lives.

What t if its brought back to a vulnerable or at risk person "

Some of the children are vulnerable and at risk in other ways.

I refuse to allow you to shame myself and other people because we are doing what needs to be done in shitty circumstances. Our children need school and your constant badgering of anyone who says they are doing something you disagree with is tedious and unnecessary.

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

My eldest (10) got upset yesterday. Second day back in School and given a maths test which he did poorly in (worst in class) and it’s totally ruined his confidence for going back to School.

I don’t know whether it was a “to see where they are at” test or something else, but I’m not fucking impressed it was done on the 2nd day of returning to School.

His words to me were: “I work better with you teaching me mum because you don’t shout at me”.

Heart Broken.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think a big part of the problem is everywhere kids are being told they are gonna be anxious while many aren't and are enjoying being back. Some schools are over cautious sending kids home if they have a cold then refusing to have them back unless they have a letter stating they have been tested and are negative. It's getting ridiculous.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

"My lad goes back Thursday and he can’t wait to see his friends and have the school routine.

His only doubt was he may bring it home to me, I just said it’s no different than when we go food shopping, we have our routine when we return and you will do the same returning from school

The kids have suffered these last six months and they need some normality back in their lives.

What t if its brought back to a vulnerable or at risk person "

What if the kid themselves is in that category? No one is talking about that in the system..We have one & a younger sibling.in the same school.

They go back tomorrow if they come home & tell us bad news about how it’s being controlled in school then fuck knows what we do with both of them

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"Think a big part of the problem is everywhere kids are being told they are gonna be anxious while many aren't and are enjoying being back. Some schools are over cautious sending kids home if they have a cold then refusing to have them back unless they have a letter stating they have been tested and are negative. It's getting ridiculous. "

Cough twice and they’re home ..... test the child and stay home until the test result. If negative then all good if positive the whole bubble needs to isolate for 14 days ..... it will be the Hokey Cokey this term. Arguably a lots more disruptive than home learning.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"My eldest (10) got upset yesterday. Second day back in School and given a maths test which he did poorly in (worst in class) and it’s totally ruined his confidence for going back to School.

I don’t know whether it was a “to see where they are at” test or something else, but I’m not fucking impressed it was done on the 2nd day of returning to School.

His words to me were: “I work better with you teaching me mum because you don’t shout at me”.

Heart Broken.

Awful! Really bad practice to be doing baseline tests at the moment!!! Didn’t school share recovery curriculum plans with you?

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"The school boris visited to show was safe has been closed after a Corona outbreak.

.... and I’m sure there will be more, but we just have to deal with them on an individual basis "

219 schools with cases this morning ....

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"We need to close pubs immediately

Help the vulnerabke

. And shield the high risk asap "

What have pubs got to do with schools. How will closure of pubs be helpful to schools?

As many vulnerable people as possible ARE being helped

The high risk ARE shielding or rather were.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

" given a maths test which he did poorly in (worst in class) .

You should complain to the school. Students shouldn't know each others marks and who is bottom.

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

manchester

No there not.

Vulnerable at risk have to lick kids up from school and take them back to the household.

Pubs should be closed now

And fines for not following rules.

This has not gone away this is serious

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

manchester

219 schools impacted

We were told it wouldn't spread and vulnerable parents teachers and kids wouldn't be put at risk.

Vaccine only exit from this

219 that's horrendous in last than a week

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"No there not.

Vulnerable at risk have to lick kids up from school and take them back to the household.

Pubs should be closed now

And fines for not following rules.

This has not gone away this is serious"

You do realise the vulnerable person doesn't have to do anything, they make that choice.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"No there not.

Vulnerable at risk have to lick kids up from school and take them back to the household.

Pubs should be closed now

And fines for not following rules.

This has not gone away this is serious

You do realise the vulnerable person doesn't have to do anything, they make that choice."

Obviously vulnerable parents are different but honestly, they could just take their kids out of school if it's an issue.

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By *ackformore100 OP Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"My eldest (10) got upset yesterday. Second day back in School and given a maths test which he did poorly in (worst in class) and it’s totally ruined his confidence for going back to School.

I don’t know whether it was a “to see where they are at” test or something else, but I’m not fucking impressed it was done on the 2nd day of returning to School.

His words to me were: “I work better with you teaching me mum because you don’t shout at me”.

Heart Broken.

Awful! Really bad practice to be doing baseline tests at the moment!!! Didn’t school share recovery curriculum plans with you? "

What's a recovery plan? Nope never heard of it... Never seen it... I'd imagine there will be behavioural issues with some of the kids.... They've had free rein for 6 months after all and now they have to sit down and listen to teacher. I'd also imagine it's going to challenge a lot of the teachers strategies too. Be interesting to know how the keybworkers kids who have carried on with school teaching throughout compare with those who've been home "schooled" for 6 months. Kids are remarkably resilient and adaptable but it's going to be a roller coaster ride for sure. Also surprised not to see more teacher training adverts as surely we will need more teachers?

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

manchester

I agree but there's is no process or anyone to contact

Any advice how you do this

I have tried headmaster drs social local school authority hospital.

Everyone says it's someone else who works family.

So how do you do it.

Check grandma reports last wed or Thursday a very vulnerable woman was distraught as no one wil engaged with her.

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

manchester

Granada reports

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

manchester

"No there not.

Vulnerable at risk have to lick kids up from school and take them back to the household.

Pubs should be closed now

And fines for not following rules.

This has not gone away this is serious

You do realise the vulnerable person doesn't have to do anything, they make that choice.

Obviously vulnerable parents are different but honestly, they could just take their kids out of school if it's an issue. "

It may seem obvious buts it's not there is no process in place.

Can help when you think its in place or obvious

What is the process any constructive help wekcome

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"No there not.

Vulnerable at risk have to lick kids up from school and take them back to the household.

Pubs should be closed now

And fines for not following rules.

This has not gone away this is serious

You do realise the vulnerable person doesn't have to do anything, they make that choice.

Obviously vulnerable parents are different but honestly, they could just take their kids out of school if it's an issue.

It may seem obvious buts it's not there is no process in place.

Can help when you think its in place or obvious

What is the process any constructive help wekcome"

The parents of the child will have to find alternative arrangements. Maybe do a childcare share with other parents, possibly a non vulnerable relative, a friend, a neighbour etc. There are options.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

"No there not.

Vulnerable at risk have to lick kids up from school and take them back to the household.

Pubs should be closed now

And fines for not following rules.

This has not gone away this is serious

You do realise the vulnerable person doesn't have to do anything, they make that choice.

Obviously vulnerable parents are different but honestly, they could just take their kids out of school if it's an issue. "

According to the Welsh Gov we cannot take our kids out of school unless officially going down the home schooling route ie no support unlike when schools closed.

Unofficially the school have already earmarked our kids as vulnerable & have already said that working from home with their help is an option & they will support our choice 100%

Add to that the very low rates in our part of Wales & the kids need to socialise with their friends & it’s like a rock & a hard place.

But ours will return tomorrow but it is currently not conducive to a good nights sleep

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"No there not.

Vulnerable at risk have to lick kids up from school and take them back to the household.

Pubs should be closed now

And fines for not following rules.

This has not gone away this is serious

You do realise the vulnerable person doesn't have to do anything, they make that choice.

Obviously vulnerable parents are different but honestly, they could just take their kids out of school if it's an issue.

It may seem obvious buts it's not there is no process in place.

Can help when you think its in place or obvious

What is the process any constructive help wekcome

The parents of the child will have to find alternative arrangements. Maybe do a childcare share with other parents, possibly a non vulnerable relative, a friend, a neighbour etc. There are options.

You can’t do a childcare share schools are specifically asking children not to arrive in multiple household cars. Can’t use grand parents if over the age of 70. There isn’t many options I’m afraid if you de register your child in most cases schools are going for an attendance order straight away.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

The assumption that anyone wants to do free childcare at this time is also a pretty big ask. Childminders are reducing numbers drastically as are breakfast and after school clubs as they have to maintain the children in their school bubbles or provide strict social distancing.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"there's is no process or anyone to contact

Any advice how you do this

I have tried headmaster drs social local school authority hospital.

What are you actually wanting ? For your child not to return to school because you are vulnerable ?

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"No there not.

Vulnerable at risk have to lick kids up from school and take them back to the household.

Pubs should be closed now

And fines for not following rules.

This has not gone away this is serious

You do realise the vulnerable person doesn't have to do anything, they make that choice.

Obviously vulnerable parents are different but honestly, they could just take their kids out of school if it's an issue.

According to the Welsh Gov we cannot take our kids out of school unless officially going down the home schooling route ie no support unlike when schools closed.

Unofficially the school have already earmarked our kids as vulnerable & have already said that working from home with their help is an option & they will support our choice 100%

Add to that the very low rates in our part of Wales & the kids need to socialise with their friends & it’s like a rock & a hard place.

But ours will return tomorrow but it is currently not conducive to a good nights sleep

That was kind of my point, if the parents don't want to put their vulnerable family members at risk they will find alternative arrangements or have to home school their children.

Closing schools again is detrimental to our children's health and well being and they are the future.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"My eldest (10) got upset yesterday. Second day back in School and given a maths test which he did poorly in (worst in class) and it’s totally ruined his confidence for going back to School.

I don’t know whether it was a “to see where they are at” test or something else, but I’m not fucking impressed it was done on the 2nd day of returning to School.

His words to me were: “I work better with you teaching me mum because you don’t shout at me”.

Heart Broken.

Awful! Really bad practice to be doing baseline tests at the moment!!! Didn’t school share recovery curriculum plans with you?

Recovery curriculum is the plans schools will have I. Place over the first few weeks so PSHE/ mental health stuff. Very little else is currently recommended.

Key worker children weren’t being taught last term they were playing games - educational games yes but mostly outside and never sitting at a desk. It’s was childcare not education.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"No there not.

Vulnerable at risk have to lick kids up from school and take them back to the household.

Pubs should be closed now

And fines for not following rules.

This has not gone away this is serious

You do realise the vulnerable person doesn't have to do anything, they make that choice.

Obviously vulnerable parents are different but honestly, they could just take their kids out of school if it's an issue.

It may seem obvious buts it's not there is no process in place.

Can help when you think its in place or obvious

What is the process any constructive help wekcome

The parents of the child will have to find alternative arrangements. Maybe do a childcare share with other parents, possibly a non vulnerable relative, a friend, a neighbour etc. There are options.

Children are together in year group bubbles at my daughter's school, I would happily help out with my friends daughter if I was needed as she's in the same year group as my child.

There are options.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"My eldest (10) got upset yesterday. Second day back in School and given a maths test which he did poorly in (worst in class) and it’s totally ruined his confidence for going back to School.

I don’t know whether it was a “to see where they are at” test or something else, but I’m not fucking impressed it was done on the 2nd day of returning to School.

His words to me were: “I work better with you teaching me mum because you don’t shout at me”.

Heart Broken.

Awful! Really bad practice to be doing baseline tests at the moment!!! Didn’t school share recovery curriculum plans with you?

Recovery curriculum is the plans schools will have I. Place over the first few weeks so PSHE/ mental health stuff. Very little else is currently recommended.

Key worker children weren’t being taught last term they were playing games - educational games yes but mostly outside and never sitting at a desk. It’s was childcare not education. "

Untrue, children at my daughter's school were learning in classrooms, on laptops.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"No there not.

Vulnerable at risk have to lick kids up from school and take them back to the household.

Pubs should be closed now

And fines for not following rules.

This has not gone away this is serious

You do realise the vulnerable person doesn't have to do anything, they make that choice.

Obviously vulnerable parents are different but honestly, they could just take their kids out of school if it's an issue.

According to the Welsh Gov we cannot take our kids out of school unless officially going down the home schooling route ie no support unlike when schools closed.

Unofficially the school have already earmarked our kids as vulnerable & have already said that working from home with their help is an option & they will support our choice 100%

Add to that the very low rates in our part of Wales & the kids need to socialise with their friends & it’s like a rock & a hard place.

But ours will return tomorrow but it is currently not conducive to a good nights sleep

That was kind of my point, if the parents don't want to put their vulnerable family members at risk they will find alternative arrangements or have to home school their children.

Closing schools again is detrimental to our children's health and well being and they are the future. "

Schools will close again not all at once but I’d be willing to bet a fair chunk of money than most if not all children will have to isolate at least once this term. The distribution and uncertainly isn’t good at all. A blended learning approach would have been more consistent and safer for all.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"My eldest (10) got upset yesterday. Second day back in School and given a maths test which he did poorly in (worst in class) and it’s totally ruined his confidence for going back to School.

I don’t know whether it was a “to see where they are at” test or something else, but I’m not fucking impressed it was done on the 2nd day of returning to School.

His words to me were: “I work better with you teaching me mum because you don’t shout at me”.

Heart Broken.

Awful! Really bad practice to be doing baseline tests at the moment!!! Didn’t school share recovery curriculum plans with you?

Recovery curriculum is the plans schools will have I. Place over the first few weeks so PSHE/ mental health stuff. Very little else is currently recommended.

Key worker children weren’t being taught last term they were playing games - educational games yes but mostly outside and never sitting at a desk. It’s was childcare not education.

Untrue, children at my daughter's school were learning in classrooms, on laptops. "

Sorry I’m talking primary