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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

According to the ONS three million have had the virus in the UK and 2.7 million have had immunity to it.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/nearly-3-million-people-england-111500232.html

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That is good that so many had immunity from it, what does it mean to the other 64 million people dies it mean they are covid free as well?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"According to the ONS three million have had the virus in the UK and 2.7 million have had immunity to it.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/nearly-3-million-people-england-111500232.html"

If true... Its a start. Have they any more clarity on how long said immunity may last for and in what demographic?

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"According to the ONS three million have had the virus in the UK and 2.7 million have had immunity to it.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/nearly-3-million-people-england-111500232.html"

An estimated 2.7 million have or have had antibodies not the same as immunity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Read the damn article before you comment erroneously

It says 2.7 million have developed some degree of immunity

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *oved Up 2Couple
over a year ago

nottingham

There's no proof of immunity. They still don't know if having the virus makes someone immune. A clear antibody test just means you haven't had the virus

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That is good that so many had immunity from it, what does it mean to the other 64 million people dies it mean they are covid free as well?"
It was a typo I did there I didnt mean dies I meant does" there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The doom- mongers on here are determined not to welcome any good news !

I assume this is a statistical extrapolation by the ONS, since they haven't tested that many yet.

But it indicates that the number who are likely to have had it is ten times the number of cases confirmed by the government.

Presumably non-symptomatic cases or minor symptoms that have not been reported.

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By *iddle ManMan
over a year ago

Walsall

Is this absolute figures from testing? Or just an estimate?

If the majority have it with no symptoms then surely the figure would be a lot higher than three million, I guess we can only hope that a lot more people have had it then we all thought and have had no I'll effects and no have some degree of immunity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"According to the ONS three million have had the virus in the UK and 2.7 million have had immunity to it.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/nearly-3-million-people-england-111500232.html"

It doesn't say 2.7 million are immune, it says that they have developed antibodies. While this is potentially good news all it is telling us that more people have had it than we thought.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is this absolute figures from testing? Or just an estimate? "

It's extrapolating from official tests.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"Is this absolute figures from testing? Or just an estimate?

It's extrapolating from official tests."

And i think they are extrapolating the random blind tests too.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Why don't people read the article before mouthing off with their opinions?

Get past the first two paragraphs and you will see it mentions immunity.

Or can you not read any more than two paragraphs ? Dyslexic I expect you will claim.

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By *D835Man
over a year ago

London


"According to the ONS three million have had the virus in the UK and 2.7 million have had immunity to it.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/nearly-3-million-people-england-111500232.html

An estimated 2.7 million have or have had antibodies not the same as immunity."

"... antibodies not the same as immunity..."

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That's true. There is a correlation between antibodies and immunity, but they are not one and the same thing.

Also the presence of antibodies doesn't always confer immunity.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

If 5% or so have antibodies, it indicates that 95% - the vast majority of us, do not. Potentially 100% of us could thus get infected, on the assumption that any of the 5% with antibodies who may have some immunity, could lose it any point and get infected again. It's probably no comfort to those who remained alive but have severe health damage from their infection, that their weakened body could sustain additional damage. Some with minor symptom levels acquired brain damage, others have damage to other organs. Some of our organs may gain some recovery, others are less amenable to this.

Until more extensive research evidence is available, we should probably assume that an effective, safe vaccine is our best shot at getting more freedom.

The weather since March has been especially benevolent for us which, coupled with our limited lockdown, probably kept our infected population levels much lower than it would have been.

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By *iddle ManMan
over a year ago

Walsall


"If 5% or so have antibodies, it indicates that 95% - the vast majority of us, do not. Potentially 100% of us could thus get infected, on the assumption that any of the 5% with antibodies who may have some immunity, could lose it any point and get infected again. It's probably no comfort to those who remained alive but have severe health damage from their infection, that their weakened body could sustain additional damage. Some with minor symptom levels acquired brain damage, others have damage to other organs. Some of our organs may gain some recovery, others are less amenable to this.

Until more extensive research evidence is available, we should probably assume that an effective, safe vaccine is our best shot at getting more freedom.

The weather since March has been especially benevolent for us which, coupled with our limited lockdown, probably kept our infected population levels much lower than it would have been. "

Totally agree, there is still so much we don't know about the long term side effects of even very mild symptoms, it would be better to never get it in the first place but I can't help but feel a lot more people have had it with zero symptoms and won't know until tested for anti bodies, and even then that protection is looking short lived, although the theory about the reinfection not being as bad is a positive.

All looking positive then, not.

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge


"If 5% or so have antibodies, it indicates that 95% - the vast majority of us, do not. Potentially 100% of us could thus get infected, on the assumption that any of the 5% with antibodies who may have some immunity, could lose it any point and get infected again. It's probably no comfort to those who remained alive but have severe health damage from their infection, that their weakened body could sustain additional damage. Some with minor symptom levels acquired brain damage, others have damage to other organs. Some of our organs may gain some recovery, others are less amenable to this.

Until more extensive research evidence is available, we should probably assume that an effective, safe vaccine is our best shot at getting more freedom.

The weather since March has been especially benevolent for us which, coupled with our limited lockdown, probably kept our infected population levels much lower than it would have been.

Totally agree, there is still so much we don't know about the long term side effects of even very mild symptoms, it would be better to never get it in the first place but I can't help but feel a lot more people have had it with zero symptoms and won't know until tested for anti bodies, and even then that protection is looking short lived, although the theory about the reinfection not being as bad is a positive.

All looking positive then, not. "

Why do you say it is short-lived when 22,999,995 people out of 23,000,000 haven't caught again.

The government are just scared that the 3 million who have had it will say they don't need to follow the rules, and then all the young and fit will try to catch it so they don't either.

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By *fweonlymeettwiceMan
over a year ago

Madrid

I have done my best to respect the diverse opinions regarding COVID-19 over these past few months, but I have these nagging questions about it... A friend posted this and it brilliantly sums up my train of thought:

Please just take politics out of it and read this with an open mind using common sense.

Anyone out there who can tell me what our end game is with the covid 19?

What is the magic formula that is going to allow us to sound the all clear?

Is it zero cases?

The only way that will happen is if we just stop testing and stop reporting.

Is it a vaccine?

It took 25 years for a chicken pox vaccine to be developed.

The smallpox inoculation was discovered in 1796 the last known natural case was in 1977.

We have a flu vaccine that is only 40 to 60% effective and less than half of the UK population choose to get one, and roughly 20,000 British will die of the flu or flu complications.

Oh, you'll mandate it, like other vaccines are mandated in order to attend school, travel to some foreign countries, etc.

We already have a growing number of anti vaxxers refusing proven, tested, well known vaccines that have been administered for decades but aren’t necessarily safe!

Do you really think people will flock to get a fast tracked, quickly tested vaccine, whose long term side effects and overall efficacy are anyone's best guess?

How long are we going to cancel and postpone and reconsider??

What if October's numbers are the same as August's?

You moved football to summer?

What if next March is worse than this one was?

When do we decide quality of life outweighs the risks?

I understand Covid can be deadly or very dangerous for SOME people, but so are peanuts, strawberries, and so is shellfish.

We take risks multiple times a day without a second thought.

We know driving a car can be dangerous, we don't leave it in the garage.

We know the dangers of smoking, drinking and eating fried foods, we do it anyway.

We speed, we don't fasten our seatbelts.

Is hugging Gran really more dangerous than rush hour on the motorway?

Is going out with friends after work more risky than 4 day old petrol station sushi?

Or operating a chainsaw?

When and how did we so quickly lose our free will?

Is there a waiver somewhere I can sign that says, "I understand the risks, but I choose a life with Hugs and Smiles, and the Community Fair and Concerts and Parties."

I understand that there is a minuscule possibility I could die, but I will most likely end up feeling like crap for a few days.

I understand I could possibly pass it to someone else, if I'm not careful, but I can pass any virus onto someone else.

I'm struggling to see where or how this ends.

We either get busy living or we get busy dying.

When God decides it's your time, you don't get any mulligans, so I guess I would rather spend my time enjoying it and living in the moment and not worrying about what ifs and maybes, and I bet I'm not the only one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would estimate about 10 million have had it...certainly after the government hand-outs stop.

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By *elshsunsWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire

Not very many then ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

how many people around the world have had actually suffered with it it's amazing that a lot of big-name people now suddenly got it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Funny how the large number of scared bed wetters on here in no way seems to correlate with the number of people i see out and about now getting on with normal life.

Funny how my experience is the total opposite of yours. . Your experience will be opposite because if you are one of the hide indoors brigade you won’t see all those getting on with normal life. "

Nice generalisation there . Actually I go into the town when needed, I go to work when needed, difference is, I give a shit about whether I might transmit something, I care about making someone else ill even if I feel fine. I see lots of people out and about, the vast majority with masks on, pubs generally are quite quite, restaurants are distancing and only having pre booked seatings. If you want lockdown over sooner, do your part now, then things can actually get back to nearer normal faster.

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"Funny how the large number of scared bed wetters on here in no way seems to correlate with the number of people i see out and about now getting on with normal life.

Funny how my experience is the total opposite of yours. . Your experience will be opposite because if you are one of the hide indoors brigade you won’t see all those getting on with normal life.

Nice generalisation there . Actually I go into the town when needed, I go to work when needed, difference is, I give a shit about whether I might transmit something, I care about making someone else ill even if I feel fine. I see lots of people out and about, the vast majority with masks on, pubs generally are quite quite, restaurants are distancing and only having pre booked seatings. If you want lockdown over sooner, do your part now, then things can actually get back to nearer normal faster. "

Well said.

E

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights


"Funny how the large number of scared bed wetters on here in no way seems to correlate with the number of people i see out and about now getting on with normal life.

Funny how my experience is the total opposite of yours. . Your experience will be opposite because if you are one of the hide indoors brigade you won’t see all those getting on with normal life.

Nice generalisation there . Actually I go into the town when needed, I go to work when needed, difference is, I give a shit about whether I might transmit something, I care about making someone else ill even if I feel fine. I see lots of people out and about, the vast majority with masks on, pubs generally are quite quite, restaurants are distancing and only having pre booked seatings. If you want lockdown over sooner, do your part now, then things can actually get back to nearer normal faster. "

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

if you have had covid it doesn't mean you were immune to the original virus... it means your body created antibodies to fight it!

there are things we don't know....

1) how long the antibodies last!! (there have been cases in china, hong kong and the usa where it looks as if people are beginning to get covid again!)

2) what strength the antibodies are! (there have been various studies to say that that the more ill you get with covid the stronger the antibodies you retain after recovery.... but again, we don't know how long those antibodies will last!)

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

On radio 2 the other day it said there have only been 5 cases of people testing possitive confirmed in the world

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"On radio 2 the other day it said there have only been 5 cases of people testing possitive confirmed in the world "

again... with this being such a brand new disease we don't know how long the antibodies will last.....

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By *angerineMan
over a year ago

somewhere inbetween the right and wrong

Being immune doesnt stop you from spreading it.

Wash your damn paws!

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

Think we all need to stop giving head space to non confirmed doom and gloom reports on the interweb and tabloid papers. Agree with a topic on the radio the other day facebook twitter and other forms of social media should remove any non confirmed information and hearsay posts.as there are some people that take it as gospel and now are too afraid to leave their own homes or live their lives

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"I have done my best to respect the diverse opinions regarding COVID-19 over these past few months, but I have these nagging questions about it... A friend posted this and it brilliantly sums up my train of thought:

Please just take politics out of it and read this with an open mind using common sense.

Anyone out there who can tell me what our end game is with the covid 19?

What is the magic formula that is going to allow us to sound the all clear?

Is it zero cases?

The only way that will happen is if we just stop testing and stop reporting.

Is it a vaccine?

It took 25 years for a chicken pox vaccine to be developed.

The smallpox inoculation was discovered in 1796 the last known natural case was in 1977.

We have a flu vaccine that is only 40 to 60% effective and less than half of the UK population choose to get one, and roughly 20,000 British will die of the flu or flu complications.

Oh, you'll mandate it, like other vaccines are mandated in order to attend school, travel to some foreign countries, etc.

We already have a growing number of anti vaxxers refusing proven, tested, well known vaccines that have been administered for decades but aren’t necessarily safe!

Do you really think people will flock to get a fast tracked, quickly tested vaccine, whose long term side effects and overall efficacy are anyone's best guess?

How long are we going to cancel and postpone and reconsider??

What if October's numbers are the same as August's?

You moved football to summer?

What if next March is worse than this one was?

When do we decide quality of life outweighs the risks?

I understand Covid can be deadly or very dangerous for SOME people, but so are peanuts, strawberries, and so is shellfish.

We take risks multiple times a day without a second thought.

We know driving a car can be dangerous, we don't leave it in the garage.

We know the dangers of smoking, drinking and eating fried foods, we do it anyway.

We speed, we don't fasten our seatbelts.

Is hugging Gran really more dangerous than rush hour on the motorway?

Is going out with friends after work more risky than 4 day old petrol station sushi?

Or operating a chainsaw?

When and how did we so quickly lose our free will?

Is there a waiver somewhere I can sign that says, "I understand the risks, but I choose a life with Hugs and Smiles, and the Community Fair and Concerts and Parties."

I understand that there is a minuscule possibility I could die, but I will most likely end up feeling like crap for a few days.

I understand I could possibly pass it to someone else, if I'm not careful, but I can pass any virus onto someone else.

I'm struggling to see where or how this ends.

We either get busy living or we get busy dying.

When God decides it's your time, you don't get any mulligans, so I guess I would rather spend my time enjoying it and living in the moment and not worrying about what ifs and maybes, and I bet I'm not the only one."

Your friend was posted here quite a few times. Have you teaced their worda back to the original source? I'm guessing your friend wasn't perhaps the very first person who posted them.

In any event, 5%with antibodies may have been 5%with some immunity but they're not the same thing. We also should assume that that tiny minority is getting smaller every day, as any level of immunity can reduce over time, especially with older people who have a poorer immune system - they're also the people who are at great risk of needing hospital treatment and death.

Remember Fab only accepts forum submissions that you have rights ownership to be able to post here. It's worth reminding yourself of the Fab site terms and conditions of acceptable use.

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