FabSwingers.com forum: If boris has lifted restrictions......

By *inkyBiBlackMale OP Man
over a year ago

London

If boris has lifted restrictions, why hasn't fab?

Open the meets page?

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

Boris is thinking economy, Fabs is thinking health.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cases on the increase all over Europe. Keep the meets page closed thankyou

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Theres 1 covid patient for 4 hospitals. Literally more people are dying hit by a bus than covid. Open everything up

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

"Boris is thinking economy, Fabs is thinking health."

This

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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

"If boris has lifted restrictions, why hasn't fab?

Open the meets page?

Cases increasing all over Europe & areas of the UK entering localised lockdowns - keep it closed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why do you think like this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cases mean nothing literally nobody is dying anymore

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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

"Why do you think like this"

Why do people think like what? You mean follow the evidence & scientific principle it supports?

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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

"Cases mean nothing literally nobody is dying anymore"

Congratulations - you don’t understand the very simple principle behind stopping viral spread & mutation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Evidence of what? The fact that more people are dying from falling off ladders?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Theres no way of stopping viral spread particularly in densely populated areas. That's why nobody is dying!!

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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

"Evidence of what? The fact that more people are dying from falling off ladders?"

Thats not the point though, is it? General whataboutery doesnt deviate from the fact that limiting infections in turn limits the mutation opportunities.

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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

"Theres no way of stopping viral spread particularly in densely populated areas. That's why nobody is dying!! "

“No way of stopping viral spread... in densely populated areas” - I take it that to claim such a thing youre conveniently ignoring all the densley populated areas where lockdown measures stopped the viral spread, yeah?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The lockdown did very little to prevent spread. The peak was in mid march and deaths have come down to virtually zero since then . Lockdown however has cost millions of jobs and other associated health deaths and problems

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Cases on the increase all over Europe. Keep the meets page closed thankyou "

"Cases" are meaningless numbers based on the the RT PCR test kit which is not even designed for diagnostic purposes, accoring to it's Nobel Prize winning inventor. And it doesn't test for Covid....a positive result could stem from any number of other viral genome sequences, including our very own DNA/Chromosome 8.

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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

"The lockdown did very little to prevent spread. The peak was in mid march and deaths have come down to virtually zero since then . Lockdown however has cost millions of jobs and other associated health deaths and problems"

You know what, you can debate with people who have common sense but when you blatantly ignore facts & evidence, there isnt a discussion to be had. I’m out,

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

There have been a few responses from fab to similar recent posts.

It's not a safe time for meetz.

Socials are permittex, as allowed by government

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only reason why their more cases is because there doing more test... Open your eyes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You keep wetting your pants hiding behind the sofa. The rest of us will be having fun

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By *dsindyTV/TS
over a year ago

East Lancashire

You want to meet? Find someone of a like mind. The rest of us will carry on as we are.

Enjoy and stay safe.

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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

"Only reason why their more cases is because there doing more test... Open your eyes "

Sorry, but more tests doesnt equal more cases. More testing just means we are more accurately collecting data. The number of tests dont define the number of cases. The number of cases is the number of cases, the number of tests only serve to make us aware of a finite number of cases.

Try harder in maths next time.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

If you catch it and it does its nastiest on you death by any other means maybe the better option.

It's not worth taking the chance, plus the risk of spreading undermines the efforts and sacrifices made already.

Fun comes at a price and is it worth putting friends and family at risk too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But nobody is in hospital . And nobody is dying. And the government and media aren't telling anyone that

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By *irtybrit27Man
over a year ago

Portsmouth

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion but spend two minutes in the company of the people who have caught it severely enough to be in hospital with it or the doctors who have to wear the PPE for hours or the genuine worry of their not actually being enough ventilators to cope.

Ignorance is bliss in this instance and I hope you (or anyone) don't ever see the dark side of this as it's been a bit too close to home for me.

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By *ot - CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

It amazes us some people know more than scientists who have spent years studying, we know who we will listen to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Spend time with cancer patients who've had their treatment delayed

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By *ot - CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"But nobody is in hospital . And nobody is dying. And the government and media aren't telling anyone that"

Where are you getting your facts from?

So if no one is dying from coronavirus you are going to risk your health catching it and infecting others who may end up in hospital and die which will cost the NHS that's already severely under funded, then bring grief and sadness to families and friends.

WAKE UP!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is currently 1 patient receiving treatment for covid in every 4 NHS hospitals in England. There are 257 hospitals. At peak in march there were 17 patients per hospital. They coped easily. You need to wake up and see how easily you have been misinformed about this. I work in the NHS and have all the latest figures.

It's a national scandal that's going on and will come out one day. The amount of deaths due to health problems not due to covid will far exceed the deaths of cv19 which has mainly effected the very old and frail or seriously ill.

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By *irtybrit27Man
over a year ago

Portsmouth

Cancers a horrible disease and delays are terrible. No one life should be put ahead of another but we are in a global pandemic. Just because the "numbers" don't seem enough to warrant restrictions on our freedom in your eyes, it doesn't mean there's not a real concern for the safety of the population.

Your response is your view, mine is based on experience,knowing people on the frontline and people affected by it. If you don't have that experience, then you are lucky and swing away if that's what you want. You might even get it and it be nothing more than a bad cold...or it might not and you might have to go to hospital. It affects people differently.

Low probability does not automatically equal safe for us all to go back to normal (even if it is desperately desired)

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

There are probably people lying dead alone their homes that haven't been found and counted, wonder if that'll get a mention.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"If boris has lifted restrictions, why hasn't fab?

Open the meets page?

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he hasnt lifted restrictions enough for meets to happen though, except socially distanced

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By *orace99Man
over a year ago

York

"Boris is thinking economy, Fabs is thinking health."

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By *orace99Man
over a year ago

York

"Spend time with cancer patients who've had their treatment delayed "

The counter argument to that is spend some time with cancer patients who have immunodeficiency.

It's a contentious issue with ever changing parameters and factual evidence.

Isolate, stop the spread, less people end up dead.

It could be that people are not dying now due to isolation and lockdown.

I think covid has just made it easier for companies to offload staff that they were looking to lose anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Cases mean nothing literally nobody is dying anymore"

Strange my friends husband just died of COVID so not strictly true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But nobody is in hospital . And nobody is dying. And the government and media aren't telling anyone that"

rubbish

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

For me it’s coming close to a point where the site may have to make a decision.

Everyone knows there is a large section of the community still using the site to meet others.

Technically in most places you can meet socially. Technically you can still meet voyeur / exhibition meets as long as over 2m or 1 meter plus mask

The problem is whilst the regulations and guidance is as clear as can be I do think the site is taking a risk based approach.

For me there needs to be a few small changes, the ability to verify socially, ability to read the meets and parties section and the club section. With club owners allowed to give an update on if a club is open for social or not

This would appease the people that are saying fabs is not moving quick enough but also appease the people that saying that fabs is correct

People are adults on this site, and the site doesn’t stop bareback profiles or advertisements. People can make an informed choice especially where we are. People don’t have to meet and can just ignore or say no thank you

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

Yes people are In hospital with covid, but speaking to people that works in the nhs things are nowhere near as bad

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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago

Merseyside

"Only reason why their more cases is because there doing more test... Open your eyes

Try harder in maths next time."

im out!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think we just need a little more patience. Hopefully if the downward trend in deaths continues it can be considered to be a bit of a nuisance to get it and nothing more and normality will return.

That's what I am hoping will happen but not holding my breath.

I have friends who are doctors and nurses and they say the same as Love to fuckers that the number of cases is very low and yet the treatment of other illnesses is being stymied by the inertia it is causing so deaths will rise sharply due to other reasons. We are as bad burnt as scalded as they say.

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

"For me it’s coming close to a point where the site may have to make a decision.

Everyone knows there is a large section of the community still using the site to meet others.

Technically in most places you can meet socially. Technically you can still meet voyeur / exhibition meets as long as over 2m or 1 meter plus mask

The problem is whilst the regulations and guidance is as clear as can be I do think the site is taking a risk based approach.

This would appease the people that are saying fabs is not moving quick enough but also appease the people that saying that fabs is correct

Adults will do as they please regardless of restrictions, it doesn't mean fab has to endorse it with opening veris and meet sections. On the swinging club discussion page owners are updating their club rules if individual clarification is needed.

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By *tew2009Man
over a year ago

wakefield

Lots of people meeting up now, it's been going on for months, no social distancing anymore and that's how it should be. Unless you're vulnerable you don't need this spineless government controlling your lives.

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By *uHorny1Man
over a year ago

Cannock

I didn't know Donald Trump had a Fab profile. There's no way Melania will be involved though...

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By *uHorny1Man
over a year ago

Cannock

It's interesting that I have never seen or heard anyone who works in the NHS saying that it's over, everything is ok and we shouldn't be scared of the virus.

Now, I wonder why that might be...?

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

"If boris has lifted restrictions, why hasn't fab?

Open the meets page?

Looking at the amount of profiles, stating they will be at a certain place, at a certain time, it seem irrelevant that the meeting page is opened.

There are several posts that ask for dogging locations, so does it matter if the meeting page is up or not.

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By *uHorny1Man
over a year ago

Cannock

"Errrm Einstein. If you test more people you will get more cases. It's all about sample size but you don't sound clever enough to know about that. However probably none of them will feel remotely ill , so we all keep going with this government and main stream media bullshit that you have swallowed balls deep"

That's literally what Donald Trump said!

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By *xSquaddieGentMan
over a year ago

lincs/cambs border

This thread after reading it is quite amusing to a certain degree, let's ut rel facts on here as people on here obviously don't have facts at all and believing what the government are saying. Fact 1 for those of you who want to believe the government and blame bats for the start of this well sorry to say you're wrong! This was man made in a Chinese lab and the 2 scientists directly involved in this have mysteriously disappeared of the face of the planet! Fact 2 no its not safe to meet unless both parties can prove they have been tested and are clear or have had the antibody test and are immune! Stop thinking about your own personal gratification. Start thinking about the bigger picture and put other peoples health in front of yours! If you're that desperate for a leg over invest in a toy/doll

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If boris has lifted restrictions, why hasn't fab?

Open the meets page?

Only partially lifted restrictions though as for fab they are promoting social responsibility people don't really need to meet up right now well those not ruled by their cock aren't.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"Spend time with cancer patients who've had their treatment delayed "

Respect that cancer patient enough to follow the rules so treatment can continue then. Meeting now means that you are personally contributing to the delay of said treatment.

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island

We are all fucked anyway, open it all.

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry

"If boris has lifted restrictions, why hasn't fab?

Open the meets page?

Ah, you're thinking with the little head, nevermind we've all done that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We only get a tiny little amount of time on this spinning rock.

Im not spending any more of it like a scared rabbit.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"If boris has lifted restrictions, why hasn't fab?

Open the meets page?

But he hasn't lifted all restrictions, has he? You still need to maintain a 2m distance or at least 1m if you are wearing masks etc. How do you propose to do that on a meet?

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"If boris has lifted restrictions, why hasn't fab?

Open the meets page?

But he hasn't lifted all restrictions, has he? You still need to maintain a 2m distance or at least 1m if you are wearing masks etc. How do you propose to do that on a meet? "
seems most think that bubbles apply to fab

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By *ab Swingers PartiesCouple
over a year ago

SOUTH. Cambridgeshire Border.

"Everyone's entitled to their own opinion but spend two minutes in the company of the people who have caught it severely enough to be in hospital with it or the doctors who have to wear the PPE for hours or the genuine worry of their not actually being enough ventilators to cope.

Ignorance is bliss in this instance and I hope you (or anyone) don't ever see the dark side of this as it's been a bit too close to home for me."

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By *ab Swingers PartiesCouple
over a year ago

SOUTH. Cambridgeshire Border.

"It's interesting that I have never seen or heard anyone who works in the NHS saying that it's over, everything is ok and we shouldn't be scared of the virus.

Now, I wonder why that might be...?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So I'm going to strip it down for everyone.

Viruses mutate. Covid 19 has already had a lot of mutations already.

Weirdly enough the virus seems to have lost a lot of its potency (strength) not unusual for a virus, but it seems a very quick time frame.

So there are two trains of thought. Let the virus run roughshod and see thousands of infections (similar to the US) then if covid reacts badly with influenza potentially see a disaster that will overwhelm the NHS.

Or,avoid living in a society fearful of spending money (as this is what it comes down too) the global economy collapses and we enter decades of hardship.

If this was a scale (1 being option a 10 being option b) I'd be about a 6.5. I've suffered loss through covid so do not take it lightly. At the same time the toll it has already taken on the world both psychologically and economically has the potential to cost many more lives than the virus.

Education on what is happening should be paramount here. We are all grown ups but world governments don't seem to want to treat us this way.

In short we cannot sacrifice living for other people's lives. We can still eliminate and control the virus whilst adapting to how society used to be.

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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

"If boris has lifted restrictions, why hasn't fab?

Open the meets page?

Does Boris have a schooby about what happening.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So I'm going to strip it down for everyone.

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You mean you'll give your opinion

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

One thing I am thankful for is that health policy isn't driven by a swinging site forum, and never will be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Theres 1 covid patient for 4 hospitals. Literally more people are dying hit by a bus than covid. Open everything up"

It's not necessarily the dying from it it can be a pretty serious illness leaving people with serious health issues after

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Not sure what type of rabbits we are tbh we could be quivering scaredy cats hiding away except as we assume like countless millions let alone those on this site we are getting on with life, work, socially distant socializing, shopping and occasional meals out..

That some are choosing to not meet with either regulars or even ransoms strangely enough is absolutely fine..

For those whining that everyone should just meet them as life's for living, life's too short etc just get on with it with others who want to now..

Stop with the childish comments and show some respect for others choices..

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Everyone's an expert.

I prefer to use common sense.

No cure has been announced and it's not disappeared.

Will keep washing hands, using hand gel and face covering.

Keep interaction with group's of people to best as possible zero.

No meets.

However we both have a life and work. Work that involves us both being in customer facing situations with strangers, so whilst we take necessary actions to be cautious we also to the best of our ability are carrying on with life as normal.

Common sense, certainly won't be getting our information about how safe or not it is based on what so and so on fabs has said.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"If boris has lifted restrictions, why hasn't fab?

Open the meets page?

Does Boris have a schooby about what happening. "

Is he on Fab then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So I'm going to strip it down for everyone.

You mean you'll give your opinion

Nope. That's what's happening right now. Don't believe me do some research into how viruses behave and the economic impact of a slowed down economy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Everyone's an expert.

I prefer to use common sense.

No cure has been announced and it's not disappeared.

Will keep washing hands, using hand gel and face covering.

Keep interaction with group's of people to best as possible zero.

No meets.

Common sense, certainly won't be getting our information about how safe or not it is based on what so and so on fabs has said."

There is no guarantee a vaccine will work for this for any prolonged period of time. It looks like it will be similar to a flu vaccination, which Chris whitty sort of hinted at on one of the very first press conferences.

Masks, oh that's a touchy subject. I need to find the source material but scientific proof they are only good for I think it's 45 minutes before they start to loose effectiveness through natural moisture. Plus it's been about a month now and the infection rate in the UK is slowly rising. Wearing mine but I have serious doubts about how effective they are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fab is a business at the end of the day, if they open the meets page (regardless if some of you have taken it upon yourselves to meet) and there is an increase in covid cases (regardless if they result in death), that's bad for business if could be traced back to here.

I am sure as adults if you want to meet, a page being open or not won't prevent that from happening, there may not be many deaths now but I've heard that even getting covid isn't particularly nice to have.

I for one support fab for the way they have handled this, they must have taken a hit like the rest of us financial wise.

Yes you all want action back in your lives but not having a page open for meets isn't the end of the world, if you want to get your dicks wet so much, there will be ways and means.

Danish x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have to admit I'm amazed at some of the numbers quoted in this thread as they don't match up with personal experience working in the NHS.

At the peak of the crisis my Trust had 10 full wards treating Covid 19 patients, around about 130 in total. We were however in one of the earliest and most affected areas.

I have colleagues who contracted Covid 19 in April and are still unable to return to work due to the severity of their symptoms.

As someone has said you don't see people who work for the NHS saying it is over because we are the ones who have been dealing with it. We are the people who had to sit at the bedside of a dying patient and comfort them because their family could not be there with them. We are the ones who are suffering PTSD from the trauma of a patient who seemed to be on the mend a couple of hours ago dying as you stand there powerless to help them because there aren't any ventilators.

Forgive me if a major pandemic that has cost tens of thousands of lives means a website doesn't open it's meetings section taking away your only possibility of getting your dick wet.

Maybe use this time to engage in a little reflection and wonder why, as a single man, your sex life is so dependent on a swinging website.

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By *nigmatic_AngelWoman
over a year ago

The place where fairies live

"There is currently 1 patient receiving treatment for covid in every 4 NHS hospitals in England. There are 257 hospitals. At peak in march there were 17 patients per hospital. They coped easily. You need to wake up and see how easily you have been misinformed about this. I work in the NHS and have all the latest figures.

You obviously don't know anyone working in hospitals then...

COVid is horrific for some.. and they are finding long lasting effects on the body after having it too.

If you're meeting now then you're ignorant and selfish

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings

"Theres 1 covid patient for 4 hospitals. Literally more people are dying hit by a bus than covid. Open everything up"

Do you really mean everything Night Clubs, Sports Stadium' s, Theater, Boarders, Airports, no Restrictions, on travel, let all tourists back in with out Quarantine.

Open everything up!

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By *nigmatic_AngelWoman
over a year ago

The place where fairies live

"So I'm going to strip it down for everyone.

Viruses mutate. Covid 19 has already had a lot of mutations already.

Weirdly enough the virus seems to have lost a lot of its potency (strength) not unusual for a virus, but it seems a very quick time frame.

Or,avoid living in a society fearful of spending money (as this is what it comes down too) the global economy collapses and we enter decades of hardship.

Education on what is happening should be paramount here. We are all grown ups but world governments don't seem to want to treat us this way.

In short we cannot sacrifice living for other people's lives. We can still eliminate and control the virus whilst adapting to how society used to be. "

Regarding your profile name.. I'm a very bad girl.butnwouldnt be wanting you with your opinion of COVid

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By *nigmatic_AngelWoman
over a year ago

The place where fairies live

"I have to admit I'm amazed at some of the numbers quoted in this thread as they don't match up with personal experience working in the NHS.

At the peak of the crisis my Trust had 10 full wards treating Covid 19 patients, around about 130 in total. We were however in one of the earliest and most affected areas.

I have colleagues who contracted Covid 19 in April and are still unable to return to work due to the severity of their symptoms.

Forgive me if a major pandemic that has cost tens of thousands of lives means a website doesn't open it's meetings section taking away your only possibility of getting your dick wet.

Maybe use this time to engage in a little reflection and wonder why, as a single man, your sex life is so dependent on a swinging website."

My daughter's best friend works in intensive care in Liverpool.

She used to cry all the way home at first because she said it was horrific... Litterally so bad. It'd better now but still patients Ill.

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham

"But nobody is in hospital . And nobody is dying. And the government and media aren't telling anyone that"
tell that to the families of the 10 people who died on Wednesday

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By *iger-NWMan
over a year ago

Preston

Bit difficult to have sex 2 metres apart

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"But nobody is in hospital . And nobody is dying. And the government and media aren't telling anyone thattell that to the families of the 10 people who died on Wednesday "

This..

It's almost like some are so entitled and selfish that such things like other people's deaths are just getting in the way..

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By *plpxp2Couple
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

"But nobody is in hospital . And nobody is dying. And the government and media aren't telling anyone thattell that to the families of the 10 people who died on Wednesday "

Not detracting from the deaths and the impact on families, but the 10 deaths announced on Wednesday occurred between March and September 3rd.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

As covered in many threads here, the testing volumes are right to be increased, so that we can catch people in the early stages of infection and help to prevent them infecting others, due to their not having to wait for a later test, whilst they could have passed it on - plus we get a more accurate indication of the infection levels. People tested earlier won't typically need to go to hospital for quite some time, if they ever need it. Hence infection levels can be known, measures to reduce them and plan ahead.

We've been through a period where people have spent more time outdoors, which reduces potential of infection. Colder seasons increase the risk levels.

In short, those who think it's all over have missed the boat on understanding this. There are enormous levels of disinformation out there, dangerously manipulating minds to believe and behave a certain way. Don't buy in to anything that doesn't come from credible sources.

The Office for National Statistics, the NHS and reputable scientific journals will help you to grasp where we are at. Anything else should be treated with caution.

Op question - it's not safe for non social meeets that aren't held with social distancing measures etc, so Fab is right to continue with its meetings guidelines.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So I'm going to strip it down for everyone.

Viruses mutate. Covid 19 has already had a lot of mutations already.

Weirdly enough the virus seems to have lost a lot of its potency (strength) not unusual for a virus, but it seems a very quick time frame.

Or,avoid living in a society fearful of spending money (as this is what it comes down too) the global economy collapses and we enter decades of hardship.

Education on what is happening should be paramount here. We are all grown ups but world governments don't seem to want to treat us this way.

In short we cannot sacrifice living for other people's lives. We can still eliminate and control the virus whilst adapting to how society used to be.

Regarding your profile name.. I'm a very bad girl.butnwouldnt be wanting you with your opinion of COVid

What do you disagree with?

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over a year ago

"But nobody is in hospital . And nobody is dying. And the government and media aren't telling anyone thattell that to the families of the 10 people who died on Wednesday

Not detracting from the deaths and the impact on families, but the 10 deaths announced on Wednesday occurred between March and September 3rd.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/

Very important this and something a lot of people don't realise about the statistics

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By *ettyboop61Woman
over a year ago

St Neots

There's an increase where I live on the list for lockdown again!!!! Keep it closed if ppl want to meet let them message each other keep the people who don't Safe

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By *ancs_tgirl_38TV/TS
over a year ago

Blackpool

I'm old enough to remember when they said "flattern the curve" "save the NHS" which BTW where completly white elephants...

They need to get everything in the country open fully not just a site meets page.

There's more folk dieing and are going to die of all kinds of other stuff than covid

BACK TO NORMAL

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

first off all I have a good mate that works for nhs and my fathers works for nhs contracted. I know a number of nhs people and the ya re nearly back to normal. Yes there are covid wars. It nothing like what we were seeing in March and early April.

Also it’s not only men that are meeting I know women and couples. Dating apps haven’t stopped in this time, social media hasn’t stopped and people are still meeting and fucking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm old enough to remember when they said "flattern the curve" "save the NHS" which BTW where completly white elephants...

They need to get everything in the country open fully not just a site meets page.

There's more folk dieing and are going to die of all kinds of other stuff than covid

BACK TO NORMAL "

Not that simple and it's why I say I'm erring on the side of re open but be careful.

Viruses mutate. It's natural, the concerning thing about covid 19 is it isn't behaving like other viruses. In one way that could be great as it could be all but gone by February (globally) but it could also mean the other way too.

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over a year ago

"first off all I have a good mate that works for nhs and my fathers works for nhs contracted. I know a number of nhs people and the ya re nearly back to normal. Yes there are covid wars. It nothing like what we were seeing in March and early April.

Also it’s not only men that are meeting I know women and couples. Dating apps haven’t stopped in this time, social media hasn’t stopped and people are still meeting and fucking "

Only met you once in January Mike, but you spoke sense then. You are speaking sense now.

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

Yes you can meet, the reason why the main meet page is closed still is because all parts of the country is not affected the same way, here is the latest from the meet page:

If you are following the local covid-19 guidance in your country/locality (as some rules are very location specific), that is ok

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry

Also it’s not only men that are meeting I know women and couples. Dating apps haven’t stopped in this time, social media hasn’t stopped and people are still meeting and fucking "

Given the purpose of fab, I would have thought its obvious why it still it is still not encouraging meets. It's not as if it's good for the exchequer like booze.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Also it’s not only men that are meeting I know women and couples. Dating apps haven’t stopped in this time, social media hasn’t stopped and people are still meeting and fucking "

So why are people trying to convince all and sundry that they should meet up?

Just get on and enjoy maybe..

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By *eefyBangerMan
over a year ago

edinburgh

"Boris is thinking economy, Fabs is thinking health."

Then why have Fab continued to allow people posting for meets via the status function then don’t follow it up after it’s been reported. You’ll see the culprit profile a few days later and it says the profiles blocked you? Even although you’ve never had any interaction with the profile. The same can be applied to status’ looking for drugs.

Boris is thinking of the country as a whole. If there’s no economy then there’s not much else.

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By *ounty durham bbw coupleCouple
over a year ago

darlington

Lots of people in our area are already putting meets in status etc most people are getting back to normal i suspect fab are abiding by the current social distancing laws at this stage meeting needs to be a personal decision with personal responsibility the site as a whole won't be encouraging it for quite a while

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"I work in the NHS and have all the latest figures. "

It's weird because I know other people who work in the NHS who say the exact opposite to you. It's almost as if working for the NHS does not make you an expert on this.

Btw, I'm not sure why you are reverting to insults, but you could genuinely do with working on your logic.

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over a year ago

"I work in the NHS and have all the latest figures.

It's weird because I know other people who work in the NHS who say the exact opposite to you. It's almost as if working for the NHS does not make you an expert on this.

Btw, I'm not sure why you are reverting to insults, but you could genuinely do with working on your logic."

Bingo. I love how that seems to be the bench mark now. I'm sure that Beryl the health are assistant on the ward is copied in to all of the top emails.

Apart from upper management they know little better than anyone about the nationwide picture regarding this.

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By *otfabcouple2017Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham

"Theres no way of stopping viral spread particularly in densely populated areas. That's why nobody is dying!!

You are confusing spikes in testing with increases of cases

Show me one of these areas that hasn't just started testing and found them

So somewhere where they have been consistently testing on a regular basis that is showing a rise in cases..

As opposed to testing 1000 people in an area not previously tested, then reporting 84 new cases and causing alarm that cases on the rise - Wheb in actual fact this does not indicate that at all

Please find me one case

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a friend who is a nurse and worked in ICU looking after covid patients. They didn't "cope easily" as you say, they were over run with patients, not enough staff, beds or equipment that's despite the preperations made at the begining !!

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By *iker boy 69Man
over a year ago

midlands

You have all the folk saying dont open the meet section up as its not safe etc etc... their opinion of course.. BUT if they dont want to meet, dont look at the meets section.

These same folk are saying if you want to meet, just arrange by message.. so my thought is, open it back up, as its easier for folk to not look if they dont want to, than it is for people wanting a meet to find someone of the same thinking

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By *otfabcouple2017Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham

In the Nottingham ICU and ALL surrounding areas the exact opposite was true...

... Which area is your friend from?

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By *eefyBangerMan
over a year ago

edinburgh

I have a friend who says the exact opposite.

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By *plpxp2Couple
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

In the Nottingham ICU and ALL surrounding areas the exact opposite was true...

... Which area is your friend from? "

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/healthcare

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By *rufflesCouple
over a year ago

manchester

You are talking absolute bulls**t. You don't seem to understand....the number of death rates haven't changed. What has changed are the huge increase in the number of tests, which (sadly) indicate a drop in the percentage of deaths. NOT THE ACTUAL NUMBER

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By *otfabcouple2017Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham

In the Nottingham ICU and ALL surrounding areas the exact opposite was true...

... Which area is your friend from?

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/healthcare "

Thanks for the reply

I'm unsure what your point is though?

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By *-M-B-E-RTVTV/TS
over a year ago

half way between venus & mars

"So I'm going to strip it down for everyone.

You mean you'll give your opinion

Nope. That's what's happening right now. Don't believe me do some research into how viruses behave and the economic impact of a slowed down economy. "

Im with you honey and totally believe you here. The lower death rates back it up aswell.

Im on your scale about an 8.. we cant hide from viruses for ever, we have 1000s already and we just live with and deal with them every day yes people die and thats sad, but 50,000 excess died in the uk from the flu in 2018...we didnt lockdown for that! 1.5m people died in 2018 across the globe of TB (across 200 countries) & that is a more potent airborne contagious & deadly disease.

Perspective is needed rather than just look at CV19 stats and the response.

Single figure deaths per day of cv19 in the uk now...

We cant meet, but we can get on a plane with 200 strangers and sit shoulder to shoulder for 4 hours to go on holiday.

June return to work = no case spikes (inc packed london underground)

BLM protests = no case spikes

Bars opening in July = no case spikes

Yes cases have gone up recently in certain areas, but as I said.. deaths are single figures. (Hence its not as potent or dangerous now)

I suspect we will see in a few weeks if deaths rise from these case increases and time will tell, but spectator sports starting in October and even the Gov website states November is targeted to have 'reduced to little or no social distancing required'.. so perhaps its only 8 weeks away now x

Time will tell but Im not hiding anymore x

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By *plpxp2Couple
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

In the Nottingham ICU and ALL surrounding areas the exact opposite was true...

... Which area is your friend from?

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/healthcare

Thanks for the reply

I'm unsure what your point is though? "

Just thought the actual numbers of patients in hospital would add some facts to the debate.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

"Theres 1 covid patient for 4 hospitals. Literally more people are dying hit by a bus than covid. Open everything up"

Here, I'm going to let you in on a bit of secret information.

The reason that infections and deaths dropped was because we had and still have restrictions and guidelines in place to limit infection.

Not a lot of people seem to know that.

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By *rufflesCouple
over a year ago

manchester

"So I'm going to strip it down for everyone.

You mean you'll give your opinion

Nope. That's what's happening right now. Don't believe me do some research into how viruses behave and the economic impact of a slowed down economy.

Im with you honey and totally believe you here. The lower death rates back it up aswell.

Perspective is needed rather than just look at CV19 stats and the response.

Single figure deaths per day of cv19 in the uk now...

We cant meet, but we can get on a plane with 200 strangers and sit shoulder to shoulder for 4 hours to go on holiday.

June return to work = no case spikes (inc packed london underground)

BLM protests = no case spikes

Bars opening in July = no case spikes

Yes cases have gone up recently in certain areas, but as I said.. deaths are single figures. (Hence its not as potent or dangerous now)

Time will tell but Im not hiding anymore x

You forget to mention that a drop in the number of deaths may be identified to the lower age group ?.....

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By *-M-B-E-RTVTV/TS
over a year ago

half way between venus & mars

Answer to the original question though...

Fab are a company and have to be responsible to there customers.

Individuals can do what they like, but a company cant be seen to be encouraging any kind of recklessness as they would get hit harder by any authorities.

So rightly so, Fab are taking the cautious/responsibility line x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The number of deaths in April was

Close to 1000 people dying every single day. Fast forward to this last month and in August it was down to less than 100 a week. The daily death dates are quite often as low as single digits now e.g 4 a day etc. That's a huge difference in as you said the actual number of deaths.

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By *-M-B-E-RTVTV/TS
over a year ago

half way between venus & mars

You forget to mention that a drop in the number of deaths may be identified to the lower age group ?..... "

I did honey yes x

And to me that backs up that its mutated into something far less deadly..

The younger groups now testing poss are the more reckless ones seeming to be ignoring social distancing and hence the increase, but they dont seem to be causing an issue with anyone else or older..

Which you would have thought they would just be a catalyst for a 2nd wave.

Lets hope that isnt to come.. xxx

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over a year ago

"I work in the NHS and have all the latest figures.

It's weird because I know other people who work in the NHS who say the exact opposite to you. It's almost as if working for the NHS does not make you an expert on this.

Btw, I'm not sure why you are reverting to insults, but you could genuinely do with working on your logic."
Yes I have also heard the same thing.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In the Nottingham ICU and ALL surrounding areas the exact opposite was true...

... Which area is your friend from? "

London

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry

"I work in the NHS and have all the latest figures.

It's weird because I know other people who work in the NHS who say the exact opposite to you. It's almost as if working for the NHS does not make you an expert on this.

Btw, I'm not sure why you are reverting to insults, but you could genuinely do with working on your logic.Yes I have also heard the same thing."

What's the relationship between anecdote and data?

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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

It amazes us some people know more than scientists who have spent years studying, we know who we will listen to. "

A good start would be intaking the scientific data that has come from trusted sources & isn’t published by ‘study groups’ funded by unscrupulous companies/individuals.

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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

"But nobody is in hospital . And nobody is dying. And the government and media aren't telling anyone thattell that to the families of the 10 people who died on Wednesday "

Or the two people who died in Craigavon today.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In the Nottingham ICU and ALL surrounding areas the exact opposite was true...

... Which area is your friend from? "

Given that we are currently experiencing local lock downs you think people would realise that different areas can be affected differently.

In my area we were very much on the edge of what we could handle utilising only hospitals, and that was by cancelling all non emergency work. Yet in large areas of the South West of England there were very few cases.

Almost as if there were some sort of lock down that stopped the spread of the virus...

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By *otfabcouple2017Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham

In the Nottingham ICU and ALL surrounding areas the exact opposite was true...

... Which area is your friend from?

London"

What time period?

I have the NHS covid admissions spreadsheet open on my phone, I can't see actual figures that reflect what your friend is saying.

It the gov stats dont appear at any point they were short of beds and equipement, staff is debatable as imo even before covid the NHS were short staffed

I can only assume I have overlooked the time period your friend was referring to.. Or you friend is mistaken/being honest.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

like it or not loads of peeps are meeting.my updates page every day has a dozen or so statuses that make it obvious they have just had a meet or are about to.seen two gangbang posts this week aswell.one thanking everyone who showed up and the other stating only a few places left.people will meet wether fabs is telling people not to or not.you have to be an adult to use the site and adults tend to make there own minds up about things.personaly i not meeting at the momment but others are.thats there choice just like its ny choice not to look for meets.who knows in a minth or two i may well change my mind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I work in the NHS and have all the latest figures.

It's weird because I know other people who work in the NHS who say the exact opposite to you. It's almost as if working for the NHS does not make you an expert on this.

Btw, I'm not sure why you are reverting to insults, but you could genuinely do with working on your logic.Yes I have also heard the same thing.

What's the relationship between anecdote and data?"
I was on about the reply to the figures there.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

"But nobody is in hospital . And nobody is dying. And the government and media aren't telling anyone that"

743 people in hospital

81 people in intensive care

Over 1000 a day testing positive

That's with restrictions in place.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

"But nobody is in hospital . And nobody is dying. And the government and media aren't telling anyone thattell that to the families of the 10 people who died on Wednesday

Or the two people who died in Craigavon today."

Three

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Cases on the increase all over Europe. Keep the meets page closed thankyou

Rubbish!

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By *ancs_tgirl_38TV/TS
over a year ago

Blackpool

Back to school 1

Marxist teachers unions 0

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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

"Back to school 1

Marxist teachers unions 0

Ah, another person throwing the wors “Marxist” about as if it’s a bad thing.

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over a year ago

"But nobody is in hospital . And nobody is dying. And the government and media aren't telling anyone thattell that to the families of the 10 people who died on Wednesday

Or the two people who died in Craigavon today.

Three"

Do the others who died in craigavon get a mention or just the ones who had tested positive for Covid.

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By *ancs_tgirl_38TV/TS
over a year ago

Blackpool

I think the folks who fled Cuba to get to Florida will definitely tell you it is.

There was a reason why the Demonrats had to shut Sanders down and circle the waggons around Joe hiden the week before super Tuesday.

It was called Florida.

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge

"Cases on the increase all over Europe. Keep the meets page closed thankyou

Rubbish!"

The problem is the test is too sensitive, they are doing 38-40 cycles. This finds the virus in concentrations that are too low to be infectious. The suggestion is that they should only do 35 cycles.

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over a year ago

"Cases on the increase all over Europe. Keep the meets page closed thankyou

Rubbish!

The problem is the test is too sensitive, they are doing 38-40 cycles. This finds the virus in concentrations that are too low to be infectious. The suggestion is that they should only do 35 cycles."

I was reading an article earlier that stated it should be as low as 24.

The fact that the test is using 38-40 could explain why the cases are going up but not the hospital admissions.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Back to school 1

Marxist teachers unions 0

Crackpot uniformed lunatic raving 1

Common sense 0

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ignorance is bliss in this instance and I hope you (or anyone) don't ever see the dark side of this as it's been a bit too close to home for me."
. If you spend two minutes in the company of anyone who has suffered any type of serious illness you will hear a deeply unpleasant story, it’s a fact of life. No good pretending if we all hide at home that such things won’t happen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But nobody is in hospital . And nobody is dying. And the government and media aren't telling anyone that

Where are you getting your facts from?

WAKE UP!"
. So, do you travel around visiting crowded pubs having a strop at everyone in there ? My guess is an hour spent up close with one person is far safer than an hour in a busy pub, yet loads of them are packed.

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over a year ago

"I think the folks who fled Cuba to get to Florida will definitely tell you it is.

There was a reason why the Demonrats had to shut Sanders down and circle the waggons around Joe hiden the week before super Tuesday.

It was called Florida. "

If you think Bernie Sanders is a Marxist then you have no idea what a Marxist is.

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By *ot - CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Sadly 12 people have died in the last 24 hours and over 1800 new cases. These people that think its not serious think twice. Most people that catch it now are aged 17 - 35 the going out age range.

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over a year ago

"I'm old enough to remember when they said "flattern the curve" "save the NHS" which BTW where completly white elephants...

They need to get everything in the country open fully not just a site meets page.

There's more folk dieing and are going to die of all kinds of other stuff than covid

BACK TO NORMAL "

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

"Cases on the increase all over Europe. Keep the meets page closed thankyou

Rubbish!

The problem is the test is too sensitive, they are doing 38-40 cycles. This finds the virus in concentrations that are too low to be infectious. The suggestion is that they should only do 35 cycles."

Really, where's the supporting evidence for that ?

The number of cycles is based on the performance characteristics of both kit and apparatus, it's not some random number.

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By *annydevonMan
over a year ago

Exeter

yes, the peak was in mid march, a few weeks after lockdown rules came in. After that deaths started to fall, because of the lockdown rules. Deaths are now increasing again, since the rules have been relaxed.

I notice you are from Leicester, which has local restrictions in place again because of the number of cases rising due to people not following the simple guidance

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By *ason500Man
over a year ago

worcestershire

Keep the meets page... closed.. there’s enough people meeting without it being open on here x

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy

"Sadly 12 people have died in the last 24 hours and over 1800 new cases. These people that think its not serious think twice. Most people that catch it now are aged 17 - 35 the going out age range. "

Only 1800? That’s very low.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Only reason why their more cases is because there doing more test... Open your eyes

Try harder in maths next time."

LOL, that last line was the clincher

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thats not how it works, so unlucky for you. Both numbers are essentially finite but also vary. For instance, if there are 1 million actual cases but we only test for 250,000 of them, the most amount of cases you will have in your data pool is 250,000. This gives a false equivalence because obviously there are more cases that arent being tested therefore added to the data stock. If you test the 1 million positive cases & you get 1 million positive results, you havent got MORE cases, you have exactly the same number of cases as you did when you only tested 250,000, you just simply know with more accuracy how many cases you have.

In short, testing doesnt increase the number of cases, that number is a constant. The variable jn this instance is the number of tests.

Some idiots here."

You can only report on what you know and the numbers are not finite at all.

If you don't know about it then you can't assign a condition to it.

The more you test the more infection cases you will discover, then if the infected do their lawful and moral duties and isolate then that will in the long run reduce the infection rate.

The infection rate is fluid, not finate

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By *osyredcheeksWoman
over a year ago

Plymouth

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

"Theres 1 covid patient for 4 hospitals. Literally more people are dying hit by a bus than covid. Open everything up"

You can't catch being hit by a bus.

Being hit by a bus isn't contagious.

Being his by a bus can't be transmitted.

You know when you've been hit by a bus.

You need a lot better analogy than that.

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By *ot - CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Sadly 12 people have died in the last 24 hours and over 1800 new cases. These people that think its not serious think twice. Most people that catch it now are aged 17 - 35 the going out age range.

Only 1800? That’s very low. "

Really?

Considering there is 344,164 as of today infected not including people that are waiting test results or not been tested. New infections 1813 per day, that's 12,691 per week and 50,764 new cases per month.

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By *osyredcheeksWoman
over a year ago

Plymouth

I to work for the NHS ... have worked the covid wards too.. but what from what I gather there are no covid patients where I work!

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By *m3232Man
over a year ago

maidenhead

We where slow to start restrictions we should not be so fast to lift them.

Big deal I have to wear a mask being in shops and public transportation and where else we are meant to wear them. It’s not really that hard is it to wear one and the stupid people that don’t. Don’t think of yourself think of others.

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge

"Sadly 12 people have died in the last 24 hours and over 1800 new cases. These people that think its not serious think twice. Most people that catch it now are aged 17 - 35 the going out age range.

Only 1800? That’s very low.

Really?

Infections dont matter, its deaths that count and they are extremely low.

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By *oncastercpl1Couple
over a year ago

Doncaster

Why is nobody talking about heard immunity any more

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings

"Why is nobody talking about heard immunity any more "

Probably because about 5 people have had it twice and it looks like if you have had it there it long term damage to organs so you would risk you own heath in getting it.

For herd imunity to work lots need to have had it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Evidence of what? The fact that more people are dying from falling off ladders?

Thats not the point though, is it? General whataboutery doesnt deviate from the fact that limiting infections in turn limits the mutation opportunities. "

This virus is no longer mutating. According to research it's a highly developed/mutated virus, which is thought to have been around much longer than October last year when formally detected.

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

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"Sadly 12 people have died in the last 24 hours and over 1800 new cases. These people that think its not serious think twice. Most people that catch it now are aged 17 - 35 the going out age range.

Only 1800? That’s very low.

Really?

And 50,000 have probably got no symptoms. Doubling this to 100,000 & it's still low when we have a population of 66 million. The numbers are tiny.

And the death rate is so low now, it's not worth mentioning.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sadly 12 people have died in the last 24 hours and over 1800 new cases. These people that think its not serious think twice. Most people that catch it now are aged 17 - 35 the going out age range.

Only 1800? That’s very low.

Really?

And 50,000 have probably got no symptoms. Doubling this to 100,000 & it's still low when we have a population of 66 million. The numbers are tiny.

And the death rate is so low now, it's not worth mentioning. "

I'm sure the families of those who have died from it think otherwise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The deaths have only come down as older people have made up a lower amount of new infections recently. The highest group forinfections is 18-49.

The number of cases do matter as it shows how this virus can surge when given the opportunity. If it spreads to the elderly and the vulnerable then the deaths will go up. The more cases there are the more likely the virus has the potential to infect the vulnerable again.

Also across England there's over 450 currently in hospital and it's been slightly rising over the last few days info from the UK Covid page.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do you think like this

Why do people think like what? You mean follow the evidence & scientific principle it supports?"

Who’s evidence and who’s scientific principles?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So I'm going to strip it down for everyone.

You mean you'll give your opinion

Nope. That's what's happening right now. Don't believe me do some research into how viruses behave and the economic impact of a slowed down economy.

Im with you honey and totally believe you here. The lower death rates back it up aswell.

Perspective is needed rather than just look at CV19 stats and the response.

Single figure deaths per day of cv19 in the uk now...

We cant meet, but we can get on a plane with 200 strangers and sit shoulder to shoulder for 4 hours to go on holiday.

June return to work = no case spikes (inc packed london underground)

BLM protests = no case spikes

Bars opening in July = no case spikes

Yes cases have gone up recently in certain areas, but as I said.. deaths are single figures. (Hence its not as potent or dangerous now)

Time will tell but Im not hiding anymore x

This is what it comes down to is hiding from should a would coulda's. The virus needed containing and that was achieved. As was not overwhelming the NHS. We have learned a lot more about this and are already better at treating it.

But we are at the point where this is currently no more or less dangerous than other conditions. Keep an eye on how it behaves and act accordingly but people need to start living again. Especially the young in my opinion.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"If boris has lifted restrictions, why hasn't fab?

Open the meets page?

Do you mean meets for socials?

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By *ohn n jodieCouple (MM)
over a year ago

warrington

Crikey how many people must be dying when falling off ladders ???? Thats i hell of a lot of window cleaners who are biting the dust ! I used to be one years ago , it was a d cent job but as with all jobs " it had its ups and downs " !!!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So I'm going to strip it down for everyone.

You mean you'll give your opinion

Nope. That's what's happening right now. Don't believe me do some research into how viruses behave and the economic impact of a slowed down economy.

Im with you honey and totally believe you here. The lower death rates back it up aswell.

Perspective is needed rather than just look at CV19 stats and the response.

Single figure deaths per day of cv19 in the uk now...

We cant meet, but we can get on a plane with 200 strangers and sit shoulder to shoulder for 4 hours to go on holiday.

June return to work = no case spikes (inc packed london underground)

BLM protests = no case spikes

Bars opening in July = no case spikes

Yes cases have gone up recently in certain areas, but as I said.. deaths are single figures. (Hence its not as potent or dangerous now)

Time will tell but Im not hiding anymore x

We are absolutely no where near the point where it is no more dangerous that a number of other conditions, the only reason the numbers are where they are is due to an unprecedented global response. Take those measures away and it will surge again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So I'm going to strip it down for everyone.

You mean you'll give your opinion

Nope. That's what's happening right now. Don't believe me do some research into how viruses behave and the economic impact of a slowed down economy.

Im with you honey and totally believe you here. The lower death rates back it up aswell.

Perspective is needed rather than just look at CV19 stats and the response.

Single figure deaths per day of cv19 in the uk now...

We cant meet, but we can get on a plane with 200 strangers and sit shoulder to shoulder for 4 hours to go on holiday.

June return to work = no case spikes (inc packed london underground)

BLM protests = no case spikes

Bars opening in July = no case spikes

Yes cases have gone up recently in certain areas, but as I said.. deaths are single figures. (Hence its not as potent or dangerous now)

Time will tell but Im not hiding anymore x

The latest uk figures for a week in Aug 20 showed 152 covid19 deaths v 1019 flu and pneumonia deaths.

Note hand washing, masks, social distancing works to bring both covid19 and flu infection rates down (and that's a good thing).

So yes it's clear covid19 is here to stay as is the flu and other diseases and if anything at present is the less deadly of the 2 in terms of actual deaths.

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

local, but not too local

"Boris is thinking economy, Fabs is thinking health."

So much this.

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By *om girlCouple (FF)
over a year ago

South Yorkshire

Please note that more people are being diagnosed as infected and spikes

But shouldnt we go by hospital admissions and death rather than infection spikes

If you test more ul get more and if people had it in their systom for month they moght not be new cases just existing

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By *uicy jugsWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

"But nobody is in hospital . And nobody is dying. And the government and media aren't telling anyone that"

Not sure the families who have already lost loved ones or who are being kept away from those who are dying would agree with you.

If you wish to risk your own life thats one thing but your actions have an impact on others who may be more vulnerable ... i have spent 6 months making sure i am covid free by staying home and no meets which is hard as i love the scene and if it takes another 6 i am ok with that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Cases on the increase all over Europe. Keep the meets page closed thankyou "

It's not stopping meets nor some organised socials.

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