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"I heard that earlier on the radio. My initial thought was the people running it or the computer program just has no sense of geography? I would think that’s an easy thing to arrange and worrying that it’s getting it wrong." My thoughts too yesterday. Bu it seems every and I do mean everything they do...they manage to fuck up.. | |||
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"I had a mate who has symptoms of covid and went online for a test yesterday. First 2 attempts were to travel between 150 to 200 miles. He cancelled both and went back later to get one around 20 miles away...which he accepted. Now I though it was just a blip on the system until I've seen the news today and it seems rife across the country. I just think everything our gvmt seems to do is just a massive shambles. What you think?" I think the govt have done a poor job with a lot of this. I think the population have done a worse job with a lot of this. I think having to try twice to get a test is not a great problem. It's not a perfect world and sometimes things don't work. If your mobile phone loses signal or drops a text and says please try again you wouldn't say its a shambles. And i think it's good that more people are being tested. | |||
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"I had a mate who has symptoms of covid and went online for a test yesterday. First 2 attempts were to travel between 150 to 200 miles. He cancelled both and went back later to get one around 20 miles away...which he accepted. Now I though it was just a blip on the system until I've seen the news today and it seems rife across the country. I just think everything our gvmt seems to do is just a massive shambles. What you think? I think the govt have done a poor job with a lot of this. I think the population have done a worse job with a lot of this. I think having to try twice to get a test is not a great problem. It's not a perfect world and sometimes things don't work. If your mobile phone loses signal or drops a text and says please try again you wouldn't say its a shambles. And i think it's good that more people are being tested. " But the process of getting a test is putting people off from getting one. Surely if you are not online savvy like my mate is...it will seem too much. Oh and the 3 attempts were spread over 3 hours. | |||
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"I had a mate who has symptoms of covid and went online for a test yesterday. First 2 attempts were to travel between 150 to 200 miles. He cancelled both and went back later to get one around 20 miles away...which he accepted. Now I though it was just a blip on the system until I've seen the news today and it seems rife across the country. I just think everything our gvmt seems to do is just a massive shambles. What you think?" I think if you have symptoms and we are all supposed to believe this is as bad as they like to make out then traveling anywhere with the risk of transmitting infection is to far. We as a nation have the capacity to do home testing on all. Would work out cheaper in the long run to stop all these stupid furlough schemes and get back out there incentives and just say hey back to normal for all and Inforce and pay for actual home testing for whole house holds of anyone with symptoms. | |||
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"I had a mate who has symptoms of covid and went online for a test yesterday. First 2 attempts were to travel between 150 to 200 miles. He cancelled both and went back later to get one around 20 miles away...which he accepted. Now I though it was just a blip on the system until I've seen the news today and it seems rife across the country. I just think everything our gvmt seems to do is just a massive shambles. What you think? I think if you have symptoms and we are all supposed to believe this is as bad as they like to make out then traveling anywhere with the risk of transmitting infection is to far. We as a nation have the capacity to do home testing on all. Would work out cheaper in the long run to stop all these stupid furlough schemes and get back out there incentives and just say hey back to normal for all and Inforce and pay for actual home testing for whole house holds of anyone with symptoms. " the drop in centres are a good idea, aslong as you dont pop into the shops on the way the risk is low, they are also quick and convenient for many and the results are next day,no waiting for delivery/collections. So if anything they keep things moving quicker. | |||
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"I had a mate who has symptoms of covid and went online for a test yesterday. First 2 attempts were to travel between 150 to 200 miles. He cancelled both and went back later to get one around 20 miles away...which he accepted. Now I though it was just a blip on the system until I've seen the news today and it seems rife across the country. I just think everything our gvmt seems to do is just a massive shambles. What you think? I think the govt have done a poor job with a lot of this. I think the population have done a worse job with a lot of this. I think having to try twice to get a test is not a great problem. It's not a perfect world and sometimes things don't work. If your mobile phone loses signal or drops a text and says please try again you wouldn't say its a shambles. And i think it's good that more people are being tested. But the process of getting a test is putting people off from getting one. Surely if you are not online savvy like my mate is...it will seem too much. Oh and the 3 attempts were spread over 3 hours." I'm not sure what the drama is. He tried 3 times in 3 hours. | |||
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"I had a mate who has symptoms of covid and went online for a test yesterday. First 2 attempts were to travel between 150 to 200 miles. He cancelled both and went back later to get one around 20 miles away...which he accepted. Now I though it was just a blip on the system until I've seen the news today and it seems rife across the country. I just think everything our gvmt seems to do is just a massive shambles. What you think? I think the govt have done a poor job with a lot of this. I think the population have done a worse job with a lot of this. I think having to try twice to get a test is not a great problem. It's not a perfect world and sometimes things don't work. If your mobile phone loses signal or drops a text and says please try again you wouldn't say its a shambles. And i think it's good that more people are being tested. But the process of getting a test is putting people off from getting one. Surely if you are not online savvy like my mate is...it will seem too much. Oh and the 3 attempts were spread over 3 hours. I'm not sure what the drama is. He tried 3 times in 3 hours. " If you cant see it it's pointless trying to explain it to you... | |||
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"I had a mate who has symptoms of covid and went online for a test yesterday. First 2 attempts were to travel between 150 to 200 miles. He cancelled both and went back later to get one around 20 miles away...which he accepted. Now I though it was just a blip on the system until I've seen the news today and it seems rife across the country. I just think everything our gvmt seems to do is just a massive shambles. What you think?" Ii is the result of taking a centralised and privatised approach to what should be at local level. This government is ideologically opposed to local government and seeks to control everything centrally. The Tories obsession with private is good and public is bad has meant they have not used the expertise of Local Authorities’ Directors of Public Health and the local GPs to carry out local testing. They think it more appropriate to spend vast amounts of taxpayers money to their private sector friends and party donors. If they had allocated the support staff in a local basis with walk in test centres in high streets an GP practices it would work better. It is not just a shambles it’s a scandal. Test and trace is not world beating, it’s not fit for purpose. | |||
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"You get an urgent appointment, if it's too far you try again Not exactly rocket science is it ?" Try that https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53990068 | |||
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"It's bull shit I know some who had a test on a Monday come back positive he went for another test couple of days later come back negative lol" And ? That's what's called having it and recovery, read the advise on getting tested. within 5 days if I recall correctly. | |||
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"You get an urgent appointment, if it's too far you try again Not exactly rocket science is it ? Try that https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53990068" I already did | |||
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"I had a mate who has symptoms of covid and went online for a test yesterday. First 2 attempts were to travel between 150 to 200 miles. He cancelled both and went back later to get one around 20 miles away...which he accepted. Now I though it was just a blip on the system until I've seen the news today and it seems rife across the country. I just think everything our gvmt seems to do is just a massive shambles. What you think?" All's well that ends well then - if you look at the covid testing sites map I doubt that there is any test center more than 10/20 miles away for the next one. The Map doesn't show Wales however. When I try to buy something online from Currys for some reason it keeps placing me in Scotland (I'm in Staffordshire) but that is automated systems for you I guess.  | |||
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"I had a mate who has symptoms of covid and went online for a test yesterday. First 2 attempts were to travel between 150 to 200 miles. He cancelled both and went back later to get one around 20 miles away...which he accepted. Now I though it was just a blip on the system until I've seen the news today and it seems rife across the country. I just think everything our gvmt seems to do is just a massive shambles. What you think? All's well that ends well then - if you look at the covid testing sites map I doubt that there is any test center more than 10/20 miles away for the next one. The Map doesn't show Wales however. When I try to buy something online from Currys for some reason it keeps placing me in Scotland (I'm in Staffordshire) but that is automated systems for you I guess. "It's a shambles I tell you | |||
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"4 sites in South Wales appeared on a page refresh. "Ok smarty pants are you saying my mate and those who have been on the news today just made this up? And while you might be cock sure on ordering off the internet my mate isnt! As for myself I have not required to look for a test as I've never had symptoms. But you know my view on this as I stated it in my op...its just one cockup after another to me... | |||
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"I had a mate who has symptoms of covid and went online for a test yesterday. First 2 attempts were to travel between 150 to 200 miles. He cancelled both and went back later to get one around 20 miles away...which he accepted. Now I though it was just a blip on the system until I've seen the news today and it seems rife across the country. I just think everything our gvmt seems to do is just a massive shambles. What you think? All's well that ends well then - if you look at the covid testing sites map I doubt that there is any test center more than 10/20 miles away for the next one. The Map doesn't show Wales however. When I try to buy something online from Currys for some reason it keeps placing me in Scotland (I'm in Staffordshire) but that is automated systems for you I guess.
It's a shambles I tell you"Been to Starbucks twice this week and both times the staff have gotten my order wrong lol. I first thought that they were post furlough de-skilled but then |I realised they were that bad before Covid. Sweet but . . . | |||
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"4 sites in South Wales appeared on a page refresh.
Ok smarty pants are you saying my mate and those who have been on the news today just made this up?
And while you might be cock sure on ordering off the internet my mate isnt!
As for myself I have not required to look for a test as I've never had symptoms. But you know my view on this as I stated it in my op...its just one cockup after another to me...
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"4 sites in South Wales appeared on a page refresh.
Ok smarty pants are you saying my mate and those who have been on the news today just made this up?
And while you might be cock sure on ordering off the internet my mate isnt!
As for myself I have not required to look for a test as I've never had symptoms. But you know my view on this as I stated it in my op...its just one cockup after another to me...
Actually no. I'm saying automated systems can be a fuck-up. Read what I wrote not what you want to think that I wrote.
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"4 sites in South Wales appeared on a page refresh.
Ok smarty pants are you saying my mate and those who have been on the news today just made this up?
And while you might be cock sure on ordering off the internet my mate isnt!
As for myself I have not required to look for a test as I've never had symptoms. But you know my view on this as I stated it in my op...its just one cockup after another to me...
Actually no. I'm saying automated systems can be a fuck-up. Read what I wrote not what you want to think that I wrote.
Sorry Try Again.
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"Testing station is about 2 miles away, always empty. Before it opened loads of people moaning there was no local testing facilities, it opens to great fanfare and nobody shows up. Couldn't write it. After this virus think I understand why politicians treat the public with contempt, we deserve it. Its opened my eyes this last 6 months. Probably too much time working from home, time to get back to work, can't wait. I'll never complain about long hours and working away from home again or at least until next time. "Strange that as we have a testing station 2 miles away that is always empty...maybe it's because they are sending people miles away.. | |||
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"Testing station is about 2 miles away, always empty. Before it opened loads of people moaning there was no local testing facilities, it opens to great fanfare and nobody shows up. Couldn't write it. After this virus think I understand why politicians treat the public with contempt, we deserve it. " One of the major problems too is that many people cannot be contacted because they have given the wrong details (on purpose) on slips of paper in restaurants/pubs etc. They simply don't want to fill it in right or don't want to be told to isolate should they be contacted by Track and Trace. | |||
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"Testing station is about 2 miles away, always empty. Before it opened loads of people moaning there was no local testing facilities, it opens to great fanfare and nobody shows up. Couldn't write it. After this virus think I understand why politicians treat the public with contempt, we deserve it. One of the major problems too is that many people cannot be contacted because they have given the wrong details (on purpose) on slips of paper in restaurants/pubs etc. They simply don't want to fill it in right or don't want to be told to isolate should they be contacted by Track and Trace. " Surely not... Must be the govt systems... They should know the contact details are duff and correct them automatically... And send them a cheque for being such public spirited individuals | |||
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"The uptake of Track and Trace by end-users (us) has been pretty abysmal in most countries per-head-of-populaton (the data is easy to find through google). Figures in July reported that a full 33% of track and trace subjects had given false information or did not answer phones to track and trace staff - that's assuming they had given the correct number to start with. Even Germany can only report that 12.2 million people downloaded the app - from a population of 84 Million people (adjust for Adults) While it's easy to criticise what each goverment did or didn't do, we also have 'ourselves' to blame too. " Hallelujah! | |||
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"The uptake of Track and Trace by end-users (us) has been pretty abysmal in most countries per-head-of-populaton (the data is easy to find through google). Figures in July reported that a full 33% of track and trace subjects had given false information or did not answer phones to track and trace staff - that's assuming they had given the correct number to start with. Even Germany can only report that 12.2 million people downloaded the app - from a population of 84 Million people (adjust for Adults) While it's easy to criticise what each goverment did or didn't do, we also have 'ourselves' to blame too. " Where in my op did I mention track and trace? Thread was about the shambles of the public trying to arrange getting a test. And as mentioned on this thread and just now on the BBC news...Scottish people are being directed to Belfast. Try to keep to original op please. | |||
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"I had a mate who has symptoms of covid and went online for a test yesterday. First 2 attempts were to travel between 150 to 200 miles. He cancelled both and went back later to get one around 20 miles away...which he accepted. Now I though it was just a blip on the system until I've seen the news today and it seems rife across the country. I just think everything our gvmt seems to do is just a massive shambles. What you think?" The Government should come with a public health warning | |||
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"Testing station is about 2 miles away, always empty. Before it opened loads of people moaning there was no local testing facilities, it opens to great fanfare and nobody shows up. Couldn't write it. After this virus think I understand why politicians treat the public with contempt, we deserve it. One of the major problems too is that many people cannot be contacted because they have given the wrong details (on purpose) on slips of paper in restaurants/pubs etc. They simply don't want to fill it in right or don't want to be told to isolate should they be contacted by Track and Trace. " The thread changed here with a comment that Had absolutely nothing to do with being able to book a test. It's called deflection from the main op. Please desist from this and stick to the op. | |||
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"Testing station is about 2 miles away, always empty. Before it opened loads of people moaning there was no local testing facilities, it opens to great fanfare and nobody shows up. Couldn't write it. After this virus think I understand why politicians treat the public with contempt, we deserve it. One of the major problems too is that many people cannot be contacted because they have given the wrong details (on purpose) on slips of paper in restaurants/pubs etc. They simply don't want to fill it in right or don't want to be told to isolate should they be contacted by Track and Trace. The thread changed here with a comment that Had absolutely nothing to do with being able to book a test. It's called deflection from the main op. Please desist from this and stick to the op." You ought to green arrow yourself. It's is a shame that we can't have the internet all neat and tidy just like we want it though. | |||
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"Testing station is about 2 miles away, always empty. Before it opened loads of people moaning there was no local testing facilities, it opens to great fanfare and nobody shows up. Couldn't write it. After this virus think I understand why politicians treat the public with contempt, we deserve it. One of the major problems too is that many people cannot be contacted because they have given the wrong details (on purpose) on slips of paper in restaurants/pubs etc. They simply don't want to fill it in right or don't want to be told to isolate should they be contacted by Track and Trace. The thread changed here with a comment that Had absolutely nothing to do with being able to book a test. It's called deflection from the main op. Please desist from this and stick to the op. You ought to green arrow yourself. It's is a shame that we can't have the internet all neat and tidy just like we want it though. " I've asked you 3 times to keep on topic now...its not hard and your trying the deflection again ...just stick to forum rules please. | |||
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"Yea Test Sites are dead easy to find. " That's more like it
But the evidence says differently... | |||
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"Yea Test Sites are dead easy to find. That's more like it
But the evidence says differently..."Not for most. | |||
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"Booked a test for an elderly relative with symptoms, had to make 3 calls as kept getting cut-off, on 3rd attempt speaking to different operators( it was obvious working from home),asked everything bar inside leg measurements, finally bar-code issued and test arranged. I would think any poor old person without a smart-phone or not pc-savvy would have given up -oh-then it would be possible they could go home and die of it without being tested and wouldnt show up on the books-thats not the reason surely "Or get a friend or relative to help them with it. Just like they do with anything else they struggle with. Only a drama if you choose to make it so. Or could have booked it for them online. | |||
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"Booked a test for an elderly relative with symptoms, had to make 3 calls as kept getting cut-off, on 3rd attempt speaking to different operators( it was obvious working from home),asked everything bar inside leg measurements, finally bar-code issued and test arranged. I would think any poor old person without a smart-phone or not pc-savvy would have given up -oh-then it would be possible they could go home and die of it without being tested and wouldnt show up on the books-thats not the reason surely
Or get a friend or relative to help them with it. Just like they do with anything else they struggle with. Only a drama if you choose to make it so. Or could have booked it for them online. "Look pal You keep popping up with the same old shite
Fact people are struggling to get tests whether they are savvy or not!
As I'm typing this it's just been on the local BBC news that people from teesside that has a few testing sites of it's own...are being sent 70 miles to bradford.
Yeah the same bradford that has a far higher r rate then teesside.
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"Yea Test Sites are dead easy to find. That's more like it
But the evidence says differently..."I've known plenty of people get tests easily and quickly, either delivered to their house or visited a test site. If you keep looking for bad news you'll find it. Someone recently complained that the closest test site was miles away, a very quick search showed this wasn't the case at all, they just hadn't bothered trying to find out. We do have a certain amount of responsibility for ourselves. | |||
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"Booked a test for an elderly relative with symptoms, had to make 3 calls as kept getting cut-off, on 3rd attempt speaking to different operators( it was obvious working from home),asked everything bar inside leg measurements, finally bar-code issued and test arranged. I would think any poor old person without a smart-phone or not pc-savvy would have given up -oh-then it would be possible they could go home and die of it without being tested and wouldnt show up on the books-thats not the reason surely
Or get a friend or relative to help them with it. Just like they do with anything else they struggle with. Only a drama if you choose to make it so. Or could have booked it for them online.
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You keep popping up with the same old shite
Fact people are struggling to get tests whether they are savvy or not!
As I'm typing this it's just been on the local BBC news that people from teesside that has a few testing sites of it's own...are being sent 70 miles to bradford.
Yeah the same bradford that has a far higher r rate then teesside.
No drama
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" Ii is the result of taking a centralised and privatised approach to what should be at local level. This government is ideologically opposed to local government and seeks to control everything centrally. The Tories obsession with private is good and public is bad has meant they have not used the expertise of Local Authorities’ Directors of Public Health and the local GPs to carry out local testing. They think it more appropriate to spend vast amounts of taxpayers money to their private sector friends and party donors. If they had allocated the support staff in a local basis with walk in test centres in high streets an GP practices it would work better. It is not just a shambles it’s a scandal. Test and trace is not world beating, it’s not fit for purpose. "You do know that the test needs to be processed in a lab, by a trained lab tech on a machine that costs thousands of pounds? It's not a question of capacity at the test sites, it's a lack of lab capacity that's the problem. No point in taking swabs if there isn't the capacity to process them, is there? There are very few labs equipped & staffed for mass rt-pcr testing as it just wasn't needed pre-covid. Yes, some local health authorities have limited local capacity but it's exactly that, limited and completely unsuitable for bulk testing. The real question has to be why it seems to take forever and a mountain of red tape to approve any sort of new test. There's several I know of from 90 minute doctors office tests to 12 minute instant tests and even the potential for a home test, all stuck in red tape. Why? | |||
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"Testing station is about 2 miles away, always empty. Before it opened loads of people moaning there was no local testing facilities, it opens to great fanfare and nobody shows up. Couldn't write it. After this virus think I understand why politicians treat the public with contempt, we deserve it. One of the major problems too is that many people cannot be contacted because they have given the wrong details (on purpose) on slips of paper in restaurants/pubs etc. They simply don't want to fill it in right or don't want to be told to isolate should they be contacted by Track and Trace. The thread changed here with a comment that Had absolutely nothing to do with being able to book a test. It's called deflection from the main op. Please desist from this and stick to the op. You ought to green arrow yourself. It's is a shame that we can't have the internet all neat and tidy just like we want it though. I've asked you 3 times to keep on topic now...its not hard and your trying the deflection again ...just stick to forum rules please." I'm not sure you get to decide what people are allowed to post, testing and track and trace are linked. | |||
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"I had a test on Tuesday, I Googled test centres and found 2 within 5 miles, I didn't make a appointment but they give me the test kit anyway, It all depends where you live " I think you're lucky. In Newcastle areas they've struggled, having to cross to the opposite side of the country - not great if you're unwell, nor when getting tested quickly is vital, to help to limit the spread of infection. If someone had no private transport, they'd potentially be spreading it along 70 odd miles of public transport trips and passengers
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" Ii is the result of taking a centralised and privatised approach to what should be at local level. This government is ideologically opposed to local government and seeks to control everything centrally. The Tories obsession with private is good and public is bad has meant they have not used the expertise of Local Authorities’ Directors of Public Health and the local GPs to carry out local testing. They think it more appropriate to spend vast amounts of taxpayers money to their private sector friends and party donors. If they had allocated the support staff in a local basis with walk in test centres in high streets an GP practices it would work better. It is not just a shambles it’s a scandal. Test and trace is not world beating, it’s not fit for purpose.
You do know that the test needs to be processed in a lab, by a trained lab tech on a machine that costs thousands of pounds?
It's not a question of capacity at the test sites, it's a lack of lab capacity that's the problem. No point in taking swabs if there isn't the capacity to process them, is there?
There are very few labs equipped & staffed for mass rt-pcr testing as it just wasn't needed pre-covid. Yes, some local health authorities have limited local capacity but it's exactly that, limited and completely unsuitable for bulk testing.
The real question has to be why it seems to take forever and a mountain of red tape to approve any sort of new test. There's several I know of from 90 minute doctors office tests to 12 minute instant tests and even the potential for a home test, all stuck in red tape.
Why?"Tests and other medically-related products, that would have life-or-death impacts from their use, need to be screened to not just rely on manufacturer given success and failure details. As the UK made substantial cuts to state employee and services over the last 10 years, it's also likely that we have limited our potential for doing such things as effectively as we could have. We also failed to respond and resource our epidemic readiness, after the failures we had in our testing for an easier to cope with epidemic trial a couple of years ago. We get in some respects what is obviously the likely outcomes from much that we do. A lot of test facilities have been offered by businesses but many have had very different quality of results from those claimed. Johnson even trumpeted rapid tests via Amazon etc back in the spring but they were failures and wasted a lot of money. | |||
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"The thing is you’ll always hear a negative point of view etc but very rarely hear positive views . The way society is today I’m afraid , so negative & never got anything positive to say you wonder why this world/ humans have got issues " You will tend to hear a negative view when the entire issue could have been handled better by a few d*unk chimps. | |||
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
Well, everyone is enjoying blaming the government for the public's fuck ups. Plus, he has a point, people have booked tests when they were unnecessary, it's a waste of limited resources and people are paying the price. We have responsibility to act in a sensible manner and follow the guidelines. We cannot expect to have someone holding our hand for every second of every day. "You would make a good Tory spokeswoman...a little like Matt Hancock blaming the young ones for the spread. Deflect from their fuck ups. | |||
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"Testing station is about 2 miles away, always empty. Before it opened loads of people moaning there was no local testing facilities, it opens to great fanfare and nobody shows up. Couldn't write it. After this virus think I understand why politicians treat the public with contempt, we deserve it. One of the major problems too is that many people cannot be contacted because they have given the wrong details (on purpose) on slips of paper in restaurants/pubs etc. They simply don't want to fill it in right or don't want to be told to isolate should they be contacted by Track and Trace. The thread changed here with a comment that Had absolutely nothing to do with being able to book a test. It's called deflection from the main op. Please desist from this and stick to the op." Sorry Miss, looks like detention for me. | |||
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
Well, everyone is enjoying blaming the government for the public's fuck ups. Plus, he has a point, people have booked tests when they were unnecessary, it's a waste of limited resources and people are paying the price. We have responsibility to act in a sensible manner and follow the guidelines. We cannot expect to have someone holding our hand for every second of every day. "You say we can't expect someone to hold our hands but what do you suggest the answer is to get people to actually follow the rules. If people don't listen then the government needs to bring in stricter rules surely? A proportion of people couldn't give a shit what the rules are,they don't listen or care and use a pathetic excuse as to why they feel they can do whatever they want! | |||
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
Well, everyone is enjoying blaming the government for the public's fuck ups. Plus, he has a point, people have booked tests when they were unnecessary, it's a waste of limited resources and people are paying the price. We have responsibility to act in a sensible manner and follow the guidelines. We cannot expect to have someone holding our hand for every second of every day.
You would make a good Tory spokeswoman...a little like Matt Hancock blaming the young ones for the spread.
Deflect from their fuck ups."The general public are the ones spreading it
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
Well, everyone is enjoying blaming the government for the public's fuck ups. Plus, he has a point, people have booked tests when they were unnecessary, it's a waste of limited resources and people are paying the price. We have responsibility to act in a sensible manner and follow the guidelines. We cannot expect to have someone holding our hand for every second of every day.
You say we can't expect someone to hold our hands but what do you suggest the answer is to get people to actually follow the rules.
If people don't listen then the government needs to bring in stricter rules surely?
A proportion of people couldn't give a shit what the rules are,they don't listen or care and use a pathetic excuse as to why they feel they can do whatever they want!"Exactly, how is people not following the rules the governments fault? What stricter rules do you suggest? | |||
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
Well, everyone is enjoying blaming the government for the public's fuck ups. Plus, he has a point, people have booked tests when they were unnecessary, it's a waste of limited resources and people are paying the price. We have responsibility to act in a sensible manner and follow the guidelines. We cannot expect to have someone holding our hand for every second of every day.
You say we can't expect someone to hold our hands but what do you suggest the answer is to get people to actually follow the rules.
If people don't listen then the government needs to bring in stricter rules surely?
A proportion of people couldn't give a shit what the rules are,they don't listen or care and use a pathetic excuse as to why they feel they can do whatever they want!
Exactly, how is people not following the rules the governments fault? What stricter rules do you suggest? "I think all government messages having been gently trying to persuade people to do the right thing, there is no serious consequences and I think alot of people need some actual harsh reality checks in their lives. Also the government claim one thing but the truth is another matter, why claim to be able to carry out as many tests as they say and then get nowhere near that level in reality. There also seems to be no transparency, different ministers say different things,and choices don't always seem science based. There's a lot of reasons that people have stopped caring and most of those reasons come from the governments lack of decisive action. Testing is an absolute mess and we weren't even near the capacity the government claimed.... | |||
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
Well, everyone is enjoying blaming the government for the public's fuck ups. Plus, he has a point, people have booked tests when they were unnecessary, it's a waste of limited resources and people are paying the price. We have responsibility to act in a sensible manner and follow the guidelines. We cannot expect to have someone holding our hand for every second of every day.
You say we can't expect someone to hold our hands but what do you suggest the answer is to get people to actually follow the rules.
If people don't listen then the government needs to bring in stricter rules surely?
A proportion of people couldn't give a shit what the rules are,they don't listen or care and use a pathetic excuse as to why they feel they can do whatever they want!
Exactly, how is people not following the rules the governments fault? What stricter rules do you suggest? "People like to rip the arse out of things & blame someone but not themselves. The ole blame train is rather full | |||
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"Around where we live testing has gone smoothly, over the last few weeks I know quite a few people who have had to get a test done and they havent had a bad word to say about the process so could just be down to how busy certain areas might be. Also the whole process has had to be rushed out and mistakes happen when people are rushing. The other thing ofcourse is you'll always hear when 1 person has recieved bad service but the 100 that recieved good service never mention it so you can often get a 1 sided view if you only look at complaints and dont compare that to the numbers through the door " Quite agree, was going to say something similar then read this. The BBC use this method to judge public concern over programs, theirs however is 1 in 1000 not 1 in 100. The testing is rather hit n miss and as someone earlier rightly said if the millions that has been wasted in various schemes had been channelled into national testing then our figures and stats would be be far more accurate than they are. This would have helped a lot more in giving the public the confidence that is much needed and much better use of resources to tackle this issue. | |||
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
Well, everyone is enjoying blaming the government for the public's fuck ups. Plus, he has a point, people have booked tests when they were unnecessary, it's a waste of limited resources and people are paying the price. We have responsibility to act in a sensible manner and follow the guidelines. We cannot expect to have someone holding our hand for every second of every day.
You would make a good Tory spokeswoman...a little like Matt Hancock blaming the young ones for the spread.
Deflect from their fuck ups.
The general public are the ones spreading it
Don't you believe we have a responsibility to protect our loved ones ourselves? "Hey I'm one of those very careful ones when I'm outside and yeah I see some couldn't care less types about..but I think the government has a lot to answer to on that with their mixed messages. But things are getting worse and worse and I think stricter measures need to come in now by the government to protect the majority who are following the rules. That is what needs doing now and get this testing shambles sorted out now instead of talking about unachievable moonshot ideas. | |||
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
Well, everyone is enjoying blaming the government for the public's fuck ups. Plus, he has a point, people have booked tests when they were unnecessary, it's a waste of limited resources and people are paying the price. We have responsibility to act in a sensible manner and follow the guidelines. We cannot expect to have someone holding our hand for every second of every day.
You say we can't expect someone to hold our hands but what do you suggest the answer is to get people to actually follow the rules.
If people don't listen then the government needs to bring in stricter rules surely?
A proportion of people couldn't give a shit what the rules are,they don't listen or care and use a pathetic excuse as to why they feel they can do whatever they want!
Exactly, how is people not following the rules the governments fault? What stricter rules do you suggest?
People like to rip the arse out of things & blame someone but not themselves. The ole blame train is rather full "They learnt that from Matt Hancock... | |||
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
Well, everyone is enjoying blaming the government for the public's fuck ups. Plus, he has a point, people have booked tests when they were unnecessary, it's a waste of limited resources and people are paying the price. We have responsibility to act in a sensible manner and follow the guidelines. We cannot expect to have someone holding our hand for every second of every day.
You say we can't expect someone to hold our hands but what do you suggest the answer is to get people to actually follow the rules.
If people don't listen then the government needs to bring in stricter rules surely?
A proportion of people couldn't give a shit what the rules are,they don't listen or care and use a pathetic excuse as to why they feel they can do whatever they want!
Exactly, how is people not following the rules the governments fault? What stricter rules do you suggest?
I think all government messages having been gently trying to persuade people to do the right thing, there is no serious consequences and I think alot of people need some actual harsh reality checks in their lives.
Also the government claim one thing but the truth is another matter, why claim to be able to carry out as many tests as they say and then get nowhere near that level in reality.
There also seems to be no transparency, different ministers say different things,and choices don't always seem science based.
There's a lot of reasons that people have stopped caring and most of those reasons come from the governments lack of decisive action.
Testing is an absolute mess and we weren't even near the capacity the government claimed...."We shouldn't have to be threatened into submission, we should have just done what was asked of us, people being spoiled brats has got feck all to do with the government. Testing is a mess because people are misusing the service, only people with symptoms or those advised by a medical professional should be going for tests for anyone that just fancies one. | |||
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"Testing station is about 2 miles away, always empty. Before it opened loads of people moaning there was no local testing facilities, it opens to great fanfare and nobody shows up. Couldn't write it. After this virus think I understand why politicians treat the public with contempt, we deserve it. One of the major problems too is that many people cannot be contacted because they have given the wrong details (on purpose) on slips of paper in restaurants/pubs etc. They simply don't want to fill it in right or don't want to be told to isolate should they be contacted by Track and Trace. The thread changed here with a comment that Had absolutely nothing to do with being able to book a test. It's called deflection from the main op. Please desist from this and stick to the op. Sorry Miss, looks like detention for me. "Me too  | |||
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
Well, everyone is enjoying blaming the government for the public's fuck ups. Plus, he has a point, people have booked tests when they were unnecessary, it's a waste of limited resources and people are paying the price. We have responsibility to act in a sensible manner and follow the guidelines. We cannot expect to have someone holding our hand for every second of every day.
You would make a good Tory spokeswoman...a little like Matt Hancock blaming the young ones for the spread.
Deflect from their fuck ups.
The general public are the ones spreading it
Don't you believe we have a responsibility to protect our loved ones ourselves?
Hey I'm one of those very careful ones when I'm outside and yeah I see some couldn't care less types about..but I think the government has a lot to answer to on that with their mixed messages.
But things are getting worse and worse and I think stricter measures need to come in now by the government to protect the majority who are following the rules. That is what needs doing now and get this testing shambles sorted out now instead of talking about unachievable moonshot ideas."The messages aren't that mixed if you choose to use common sense. | |||
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one "I said SOME responsibility. It's impossible to book a test online without seeing the message to only book a test if you are displaying symptoms. The same message is displayed on most GP websites. It's the advice given wherever you look. Yet some people choose to ignore it, book a test they aren't eligible for and in doing so exacerbate the problem. And that cannot be blamed on the government however much you might want to. There are things we are all personally accountable for | |||
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
I said SOME responsibility. It's impossible to book a test online without seeing the message to only book a test if you are displaying symptoms. The same message is displayed on most GP websites. It's the advice given wherever you look. Yet some people choose to ignore it, book a test they aren't eligible for and in doing so exacerbate the problem. And that cannot be blamed on the government however much you might want to. There are things we are all personally accountable for " | |||
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
Well, everyone is enjoying blaming the government for the public's fuck ups. Plus, he has a point, people have booked tests when they were unnecessary, it's a waste of limited resources and people are paying the price. We have responsibility to act in a sensible manner and follow the guidelines. We cannot expect to have someone holding our hand for every second of every day.
You say we can't expect someone to hold our hands but what do you suggest the answer is to get people to actually follow the rules.
If people don't listen then the government needs to bring in stricter rules surely?
A proportion of people couldn't give a shit what the rules are,they don't listen or care and use a pathetic excuse as to why they feel they can do whatever they want!
Exactly, how is people not following the rules the governments fault? What stricter rules do you suggest?
I think all government messages having been gently trying to persuade people to do the right thing, there is no serious consequences and I think alot of people need some actual harsh reality checks in their lives.
Also the government claim one thing but the truth is another matter, why claim to be able to carry out as many tests as they say and then get nowhere near that level in reality.
There also seems to be no transparency, different ministers say different things,and choices don't always seem science based.
There's a lot of reasons that people have stopped caring and most of those reasons come from the governments lack of decisive action.
Testing is an absolute mess and we weren't even near the capacity the government claimed....
We shouldn't have to be threatened into submission, we should have just done what was asked of us, people being spoiled brats has got feck all to do with the government.
Testing is a mess because people are misusing the service, only people with symptoms or those advised by a medical professional should be going for tests for anyone that just fancies one. "The problem is not who's doing the tests...their is no shortage on kits either. It's the lab capacity. Wonder why that was never foreseen | |||
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
I said SOME responsibility. It's impossible to book a test online without seeing the message to only book a test if you are displaying symptoms. The same message is displayed on most GP websites. It's the advice given wherever you look. Yet some people choose to ignore it, book a test they aren't eligible for and in doing so exacerbate the problem. And that cannot be blamed on the government however much you might want to. There are things we are all personally accountable for
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" I praised the government when they brought furlough in...since then I cant think of one achievement they have done. Can you?" How is this ON TOPIC? Thought this was about Testing? | |||
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
Well, everyone is enjoying blaming the government for the public's fuck ups. Plus, he has a point, people have booked tests when they were unnecessary, it's a waste of limited resources and people are paying the price. We have responsibility to act in a sensible manner and follow the guidelines. We cannot expect to have someone holding our hand for every second of every day.
You would make a good Tory spokeswoman...a little like Matt Hancock blaming the young ones for the spread.
Deflect from their fuck ups.
The general public are the ones spreading it
Don't you believe we have a responsibility to protect our loved ones ourselves?
Hey I'm one of those very careful ones when I'm outside and yeah I see some couldn't care less types about..but I think the government has a lot to answer to on that with their mixed messages.
But things are getting worse and worse and I think stricter measures need to come in now by the government to protect the majority who are following the rules. That is what needs doing now and get this testing shambles sorted out now instead of talking about unachievable moonshot ideas.
The messages aren't that mixed if you choose to use common sense. "So what would you do about the ones that have no common sense ? | |||
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
I said SOME responsibility. It's impossible to book a test online without seeing the message to only book a test if you are displaying symptoms. The same message is displayed on most GP websites. It's the advice given wherever you look. Yet some people choose to ignore it, book a test they aren't eligible for and in doing so exacerbate the problem. And that cannot be blamed on the government however much you might want to. There are things we are all personally accountable for
Source please?"Yep can we have some numbersal evidence on the vast number of people who are booking tests when they have no symptoms. | |||
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" I praised the government when they brought furlough in...since then I cant think of one achievement they have done. Can you? How is this ON TOPIC? Thought this was about Testing? "Read up ^^ I said I'd gone off topic | |||
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
Well, everyone is enjoying blaming the government for the public's fuck ups. Plus, he has a point, people have booked tests when they were unnecessary, it's a waste of limited resources and people are paying the price. We have responsibility to act in a sensible manner and follow the guidelines. We cannot expect to have someone holding our hand for every second of every day.
You would make a good Tory spokeswoman...a little like Matt Hancock blaming the young ones for the spread.
Deflect from their fuck ups.
The general public are the ones spreading it
Don't you believe we have a responsibility to protect our loved ones ourselves?
Hey I'm one of those very careful ones when I'm outside and yeah I see some couldn't care less types about..but I think the government has a lot to answer to on that with their mixed messages.
But things are getting worse and worse and I think stricter measures need to come in now by the government to protect the majority who are following the rules. That is what needs doing now and get this testing shambles sorted out now instead of talking about unachievable moonshot ideas.
The messages aren't that mixed if you choose to use common sense.
So what would you do about the ones that have no common sense ?"If it was me I'd lock them up in a pit and let them loose, hunger games style  | |||
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" I praised the government when they brought furlough in...since then I cant think of one achievement they have done. Can you? How is this ON TOPIC? Thought this was about Testing?
Read up ^^ I said I'd gone off topic "Oh wow! So will I.
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
Well, everyone is enjoying blaming the government for the public's fuck ups. Plus, he has a point, people have booked tests when they were unnecessary, it's a waste of limited resources and people are paying the price. We have responsibility to act in a sensible manner and follow the guidelines. We cannot expect to have someone holding our hand for every second of every day.
You would make a good Tory spokeswoman...a little like Matt Hancock blaming the young ones for the spread.
Deflect from their fuck ups.
The general public are the ones spreading it
Don't you believe we have a responsibility to protect our loved ones ourselves?
Hey I'm one of those very careful ones when I'm outside and yeah I see some couldn't care less types about..but I think the government has a lot to answer to on that with their mixed messages.
But things are getting worse and worse and I think stricter measures need to come in now by the government to protect the majority who are following the rules. That is what needs doing now and get this testing shambles sorted out now instead of talking about unachievable moonshot ideas.
The messages aren't that mixed if you choose to use common sense.
So what would you do about the ones that have no common sense ?
If it was me I'd lock them up in a pit and let them loose, hunger games style "I liked the Hunger Games | |||
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
Well, everyone is enjoying blaming the government for the public's fuck ups. Plus, he has a point, people have booked tests when they were unnecessary, it's a waste of limited resources and people are paying the price. We have responsibility to act in a sensible manner and follow the guidelines. We cannot expect to have someone holding our hand for every second of every day.
You would make a good Tory spokeswoman...a little like Matt Hancock blaming the young ones for the spread.
Deflect from their fuck ups.
The general public are the ones spreading it
Don't you believe we have a responsibility to protect our loved ones ourselves?
Hey I'm one of those very careful ones when I'm outside and yeah I see some couldn't care less types about..but I think the government has a lot to answer to on that with their mixed messages.
But things are getting worse and worse and I think stricter measures need to come in now by the government to protect the majority who are following the rules. That is what needs doing now and get this testing shambles sorted out now instead of talking about unachievable moonshot ideas.
The messages aren't that mixed if you choose to use common sense.
So what would you do about the ones that have no common sense ?
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"Does shaking hands with covid patients count as having common sense?" Counts as Humanity - Just like Diana did with HIV positive patients. Or perhaps he doesn't have an electron microscope that he uses to see the Virus on the other persons hands in the fist 5 FOOKING minutes of NON of us understanding what COVE-19 was. | |||
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"Does shaking hands with covid patients count as having common sense? Counts as Humanity - Just like Diana did with HIV positive patients. Or perhaps he doesn't have an electron microscope that he uses to see the Virus on the other persons hands in the fist 5 FOOKING minutes of NON of us understanding what COVE-19 was." But I'm sure at that point he was aware it was an infectious virus?.... | |||
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"Does shaking hands with covid patients count as having common sense? Counts as Humanity - Just like Diana did with HIV positive patients. Or perhaps he doesn't have an electron microscope that he uses to see the Virus on the other persons hands in the fist 5 FOOKING minutes of NON of us understanding what COVE-19 was. But I'm sure at that point he was aware it was an infectious virus?...." And to just get up close to shake hands...HIV was not a respitory virus. | |||
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"Does shaking hands with covid patients count as having common sense? Counts as Humanity - Just like Diana did with HIV positive patients. Or perhaps he doesn't have an electron microscope that he uses to see the Virus on the other persons hands in the fist 5 FOOKING minutes of NON of us understanding what COVE-19 was." HIV is spread by transferring bodily fluids if that’s how you shake hands you’re doing it wrong. This was March.... maybe if he had been to a Cobra meeting he may have been more clued up to how infectious it was as the rest of the country knew. | |||
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
Well, everyone is enjoying blaming the government for the public's fuck ups. Plus, he has a point, people have booked tests when they were unnecessary, it's a waste of limited resources and people are paying the price. We have responsibility to act in a sensible manner and follow the guidelines. We cannot expect to have someone holding our hand for every second of every day.
You would make a good Tory spokeswoman...a little like Matt Hancock blaming the young ones for the spread.
Deflect from their fuck ups.
The general public are the ones spreading it
Don't you believe we have a responsibility to protect our loved ones ourselves?
Hey I'm one of those very careful ones when I'm outside and yeah I see some couldn't care less types about..but I think the government has a lot to answer to on that with their mixed messages.
But things are getting worse and worse and I think stricter measures need to come in now by the government to protect the majority who are following the rules. That is what needs doing now and get this testing shambles sorted out now instead of talking about unachievable moonshot ideas."We dont agree on much but with you 100% on that | |||
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
Well, everyone is enjoying blaming the government for the public's fuck ups. Plus, he has a point, people have booked tests when they were unnecessary, it's a waste of limited resources and people are paying the price. We have responsibility to act in a sensible manner and follow the guidelines. We cannot expect to have someone holding our hand for every second of every day.
You would make a good Tory spokeswoman...a little like Matt Hancock blaming the young ones for the spread.
Deflect from their fuck ups.
The general public are the ones spreading it
Don't you believe we have a responsibility to protect our loved ones ourselves?
Hey I'm one of those very careful ones when I'm outside and yeah I see some couldn't care less types about..but I think the government has a lot to answer to on that with their mixed messages.
But things are getting worse and worse and I think stricter measures need to come in now by the government to protect the majority who are following the rules. That is what needs doing now and get this testing shambles sorted out now instead of talking about unachievable moonshot ideas.
We dont agree on much but with you 100% on that"We? | |||
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"Does shaking hands with covid patients count as having common sense? Counts as Humanity - Just like Diana did with HIV positive patients. Or perhaps he doesn't have an electron microscope that he uses to see the Virus on the other persons hands in the fist 5 FOOKING minutes of NON of us understanding what COVE-19 was." You have outdone yourself there. | |||
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"Does shaking hands with covid patients count as having common sense? Counts as Humanity - Just like Diana did with HIV positive patients. Or perhaps he doesn't have an electron microscope that he uses to see the Virus on the other persons hands in the fist 5 FOOKING minutes of NON of us understanding what COVE-19 was. You have outdone yourself there." It didn't make sense to me either | |||
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
Well, everyone is enjoying blaming the government for the public's fuck ups. Plus, he has a point, people have booked tests when they were unnecessary, it's a waste of limited resources and people are paying the price. We have responsibility to act in a sensible manner and follow the guidelines. We cannot expect to have someone holding our hand for every second of every day.
You say we can't expect someone to hold our hands but what do you suggest the answer is to get people to actually follow the rules.
If people don't listen then the government needs to bring in stricter rules surely?
A proportion of people couldn't give a shit what the rules are,they don't listen or care and use a pathetic excuse as to why they feel they can do whatever they want!
Exactly, how is people not following the rules the governments fault? What stricter rules do you suggest?
I think all government messages having been gently trying to persuade people to do the right thing, there is no serious consequences and I think alot of people need some actual harsh reality checks in their lives.
Also the government claim one thing but the truth is another matter, why claim to be able to carry out as many tests as they say and then get nowhere near that level in reality.
There also seems to be no transparency, different ministers say different things,and choices don't always seem science based.
There's a lot of reasons that people have stopped caring and most of those reasons come from the governments lack of decisive action.
Testing is an absolute mess and we weren't even near the capacity the government claimed....
We shouldn't have to be threatened into submission, we should have just done what was asked of us, people being spoiled brats has got feck all to do with the government.
Testing is a mess because people are misusing the service, only people with symptoms or those advised by a medical professional should be going for tests for anyone that just fancies one. "I understand where you're coming from, but there are thousands and thousands who are asymptomatic and display no signs, yet these are the very people that are passing it on to others and need to be checked. How would you suggest testing is done in order to stop the spread when there are so many of these people spreading it around? | |||
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
Well, everyone is enjoying blaming the government for the public's fuck ups. Plus, he has a point, people have booked tests when they were unnecessary, it's a waste of limited resources and people are paying the price. We have responsibility to act in a sensible manner and follow the guidelines. We cannot expect to have someone holding our hand for every second of every day.
You say we can't expect someone to hold our hands but what do you suggest the answer is to get people to actually follow the rules.
If people don't listen then the government needs to bring in stricter rules surely?
A proportion of people couldn't give a shit what the rules are,they don't listen or care and use a pathetic excuse as to why they feel they can do whatever they want!
Exactly, how is people not following the rules the governments fault? What stricter rules do you suggest?
I think all government messages having been gently trying to persuade people to do the right thing, there is no serious consequences and I think alot of people need some actual harsh reality checks in their lives.
Also the government claim one thing but the truth is another matter, why claim to be able to carry out as many tests as they say and then get nowhere near that level in reality.
There also seems to be no transparency, different ministers say different things,and choices don't always seem science based.
There's a lot of reasons that people have stopped caring and most of those reasons come from the governments lack of decisive action.
Testing is an absolute mess and we weren't even near the capacity the government claimed....
We shouldn't have to be threatened into submission, we should have just done what was asked of us, people being spoiled brats has got feck all to do with the government.
Testing is a mess because people are misusing the service, only people with symptoms or those advised by a medical professional should be going for tests for anyone that just fancies one.
I understand where you're coming from, but there are thousands and thousands who are asymptomatic and display no signs, yet these are the very people that are passing it on to others and need to be checked.
How would you suggest testing is done in order to stop the spread when there are so many of these people spreading it around?"We won't stop the spread, it's about minimising the impact of the spread. The only solution to the covid problem will be a vaccine or natural immunity with the long term goal being herd immunity to protect the people unable to have the vaccine. We need to keep the spread at a manageable level with low deaths and low hospitalisations. As the country opens back up we will get more cases, it makes perfect sense that we are getting a rise in cases now. The local lockdowns will help keep the spread at a level where we still have some control. We know that people still have antibodies a few months after infection, so if the less vulnerable get it now they will have at least some immunity over the winter period which will lower the chance of the hospitals being over run during flu season and leave beds for more vulnerable members of society that may need critical care. Before anyone dives on me, these are my personal opinions. | |||
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"Some responsibility must lie with the large numbers booking tests when they aren't eligible, ie don't have symptoms, putting burden on a system that is already struggling to cope. Ffs I've seen threads on here were people dont want a test...but hey blame the public for the governments fuck ups. Nice one
Well, everyone is enjoying blaming the government for the public's fuck ups. Plus, he has a point, people have booked tests when they were unnecessary, it's a waste of limited resources and people are paying the price. We have responsibility to act in a sensible manner and follow the guidelines. We cannot expect to have someone holding our hand for every second of every day.
You say we can't expect someone to hold our hands but what do you suggest the answer is to get people to actually follow the rules.
If people don't listen then the government needs to bring in stricter rules surely?
A proportion of people couldn't give a shit what the rules are,they don't listen or care and use a pathetic excuse as to why they feel they can do whatever they want!
Exactly, how is people not following the rules the governments fault? What stricter rules do you suggest?
I think all government messages having been gently trying to persuade people to do the right thing, there is no serious consequences and I think alot of people need some actual harsh reality checks in their lives.
Also the government claim one thing but the truth is another matter, why claim to be able to carry out as many tests as they say and then get nowhere near that level in reality.
There also seems to be no transparency, different ministers say different things,and choices don't always seem science based.
There's a lot of reasons that people have stopped caring and most of those reasons come from the governments lack of decisive action.
Testing is an absolute mess and we weren't even near the capacity the government claimed....
We shouldn't have to be threatened into submission, we should have just done what was asked of us, people being spoiled brats has got feck all to do with the government.
Testing is a mess because people are misusing the service, only people with symptoms or those advised by a medical professional should be going for tests for anyone that just fancies one.
I understand where you're coming from, but there are thousands and thousands who are asymptomatic and display no signs, yet these are the very people that are passing it on to others and need to be checked.
How would you suggest testing is done in order to stop the spread when there are so many of these people spreading it around?
We won't stop the spread, it's about minimising the impact of the spread. The only solution to the covid problem will be a vaccine or natural immunity with the long term goal being herd immunity to protect the people unable to have the vaccine. We need to keep the spread at a manageable level with low deaths and low hospitalisations. As the country opens back up we will get more cases, it makes perfect sense that we are getting a rise in cases now. The local lockdowns will help keep the spread at a level where we still have some control.
We know that people still have antibodies a few months after infection, so if the less vulnerable get it now they will have at least some immunity over the winter period which will lower the chance of the hospitals being over run during flu season and leave beds for more vulnerable members of society that may need critical care.
Before anyone dives on me, these are my personal opinions."If we are socially distance properly and WASH FACE SPACE will there be a flu season. | |||
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"Went online last night at 8pm. Went for a test 5 miles away at 0930 this morning. "I’m happy for you. Mobile or PC? I’ve had two pop up with slots available but all filled whilst I was booking. | |||
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"It's bull shit I know some who had a test on a Monday come back positive he went for another test couple of days later come back negative lol" why take another test? Odd | |||
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"It seems Hancock has been reading this thread, as he is passing the blame back on to the public. Apparently the lack of available tests is down to people asking for a test for frivolous reasons. I wonder how long it would take "I find it quite amusing when people are lambasted for criticising the gmnt,yet they themselves refuse to take any responsibility whatsoever. | |||
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"Shocking & shambolic testing - And for him to turn it on the public, teeth and lying come to mind just like this whole .Gov " After looking about a little I think a lot is down to were companies who have had a lot of kits to test their staff...are now testing more and the labs can't cope with it. Now if I can find that out surely the government can tell the truth and say what the problem is. But no...divide and rule blame the frivolous public for it | |||
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"I doubt this is the main problem but seconded university staff went back to universities a couple of weeks ago." Add that to what I said above and it's all part of the problem. What gets me is it's all bad planning...but Matt wont accept that as it's easier to blame the public instead of owning how it's got here. | |||
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"It seems Hancock has been reading this thread, as he is passing the blame back on to the public. Apparently the lack of available tests is down to people asking for a test for frivolous reasons. I wonder how long it would take "From what I see he might just be right tho. Someone sneezes they want a test. Problem is that the people that should be tested aren't being tested because they don't have symptoms. Apart from testing everyone every day what's to do ? Better triage ? Insist those with symptoms isolate rather than get tested as it's a bit of a waste ? Only test those who thrown up by track and trace ? What's the answers ? | |||
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"Shocking & shambolic testing - And for him to turn it on the public, teeth and lying come to mind just like this whole .Gov After looking about a little I think a lot is down to were companies who have had a lot of kits to test their staff...are now testing more and the labs can't cope with it. Now if I can find that out surely the government can tell the truth and say what the problem is. But no...divide and rule blame the frivolous public for it "It's how you spin it, and they have masters of spin employed by them. I've asked before but there are thousands who show no signs of Covid and have it but are not going for tests, simply because they don't feel they need too. Do they need too? If so how do you persuade them to get tested? Germany went door to door testing each house hold months and months ago, yet we can't even get the chain organised let alone sufficient testing. | |||
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"So are we suggesting that people who don’t need testing are being tested hmm how do we decide who needs and who does not need testing???? If you show any symptoms get tested, work Send you home cause they don’t feel you are well get tested, someone you know has tested positive get tested, you are found by track and trace get tested ofcourse there is people being tested that don’t actually need testing that’s why there are negative results lol what a fucking joke. It’s all fucking bollox to be honest. Right now if no one was being tested no one would even know corona existed. What a shambles it is how can you say people who don’t need testing are being tested lol what’s the means test for that. Bunch of absolute cunts that have ruined the lives of millions of people in this country with a pointless lock down and now try to blame them for their in incompetence too " Don't know if the lock down was a waste of time but then I had to work anyway. Think it might have saved more lives then it has ruined? | |||
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"So are we suggesting that people who don’t need testing are being tested hmm how do we decide who needs and who does not need testing???? If you show any symptoms get tested, work Send you home cause they don’t feel you are well get tested, someone you know has tested positive get tested, you are found by track and trace get tested ofcourse there is people being tested that don’t actually need testing that’s why there are negative results lol what a fucking joke. It’s all fucking bollox to be honest. Right now if no one was being tested no one would even know corona existed. What a shambles it is how can you say people who don’t need testing are being tested lol what’s the means test for that. Bunch of absolute cunts that have ruined the lives of millions of people in this country with a pointless lock down and now try to blame them for their in incompetence too " . Pointless . Deaths and hospitalisations where doubling every 4 days. On that trajectory we would have filled even the nightingale beds within a matter of weeks and then what? There are big issues with the testing system that need resolved fast but it’s not just MPs who are incompetent, there are layers of dumbnuts in the system | |||
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" I've asked before but there are thousands who show no signs of Covid and have it but are not going for tests, simply because they don't feel they need too. Do they need too? If so how do you persuade them to get tested? " The government says if you haven't been asked to get a test and are showing no signs then you shouldn't be tested. | |||
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"Went online last night at 8pm. Went for a test 5 miles away at 0930 this morning.
I’m happy for you. Mobile or PC?
I’ve had two pop up with slots available but all filled whilst I was booking. "Using mobile to access the website. I’ve just done it again as my first test from Monday has been resulted as “unclear “. New slots are supposed to be loaded onto the online portal at 8pm, I had to keep refreshing for 30 minutes before anything came up but again I have an appointment for 8am tomorrow, 2 miles away. | |||
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"Went online last night at 8pm. Went for a test 5 miles away at 0930 this morning.
I’m happy for you. Mobile or PC?
I’ve had two pop up with slots available but all filled whilst I was booking.
Using mobile to access the website. I’ve just done it again as my first test from Monday has been resulted as “unclear “. New slots are supposed to be loaded onto the online portal at 8pm, I had to keep refreshing for 30 minutes before anything came up but again I have an appointment for 8am tomorrow, 2 miles away. "If you live in a town or city you should be ok, our nearest test centre is 24 miles away the next is about 35 miles & they are massively over subscribed. It seems as though Public Health Wales & the Welsh Assy seem you think Wales stops 20 miles north of the M4!
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"Went online last night at 8pm. Went for a test 5 miles away at 0930 this morning.
I’m happy for you. Mobile or PC?
I’ve had two pop up with slots available but all filled whilst I was booking.
Using mobile to access the website. I’ve just done it again as my first test from Monday has been resulted as “unclear “. New slots are supposed to be loaded onto the online portal at 8pm, I had to keep refreshing for 30 minutes before anything came up but again I have an appointment for 8am tomorrow, 2 miles away.
If you live in a town or city you should be ok, our nearest test centre is 24 miles away the next is about 35 miles & they are massively over subscribed. It seems as though Public Health Wales & the Welsh Assy seem you think Wales stops 20 miles north of the M4!
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"I had a mate who has symptoms of covid and went online for a test yesterday. First 2 attempts were to travel between 150 to 200 miles. He cancelled both and went back later to get one around 20 miles away...which he accepted. Now I though it was just a blip on the system until I've seen the news today and it seems rife across the country. I just think everything our gvmt seems to do is just a massive shambles. What you think?" I think he's lucky I know of people this week that have been trying to get a test since Saturday via the gov.uk site but getting the site is busy try again later messages. | |||
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"Doesn't give any options to actually book a test,after inputting all your details it just says this service is very busy and to try later" That’s one of the most annoying parts, spend ten mins (if more than one of you) putting in details to get “Busy try later” The system should ask for name & postcode then tell you if there’s slots, you can fill the rest in after.. S | |||
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"Doesn't give any options to actually book a test,after inputting all your details it just says this service is very busy and to try later That’s one of the most annoying parts, spend ten mins (if more than one of you) putting in details to get “Busy try later” The system should ask for name & postcode then tell you if there’s slots, you can fill the rest in after.. S" Don’t close the page when you get to “busy” just refresh every minute or so until it loads the next page. | |||
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"Doesn't give any options to actually book a test,after inputting all your details it just says this service is very busy and to try later That’s one of the most annoying parts, spend ten mins (if more than one of you) putting in details to get “Busy try later” The system should ask for name & postcode then tell you if there’s slots, you can fill the rest in after.. S Don’t close the page when you get to “busy” just refresh every minute or so until it loads the next page."
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"hi all, hope you’re keeping well. I just wanted to share some info on testing as it seems people are struggling to get a hold of tests. At the moment, the current way to book a test is to call 119 or go to the nhs.uk website Tests are in high demand but the website is updated fairly frequently. Please remember you will need to self isolate for a minimum of 10 days from the day your symptoms started. Do not assume you have a cold! get tested! " Is it not 14 days? | |||
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"I had a mate who has symptoms of covid and went online for a test yesterday. First 2 attempts were to travel between 150 to 200 miles. He cancelled both and went back later to get one around 20 miles away...which he accepted. Now I though it was just a blip on the system until I've seen the news today and it seems rife across the country. I just think everything our gvmt seems to do is just a massive shambles. What you think? I think he's lucky I know of people this week that have been trying to get a test since Saturday via the gov.uk site but getting the site is busy try again later messages. " Aye he would be now...but this thread was posted almost 3 weeks ago... | |||
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"hi all, hope you’re keeping well. I just wanted to share some info on testing as it seems people are struggling to get a hold of tests. At the moment, the current way to book a test is to call 119 or go to the nhs.uk website Tests are in high demand but the website is updated fairly frequently. Please remember you will need to self isolate for a minimum of 10 days from the day your symptoms started. Do not assume you have a cold! get tested! Is it not 14 days? " It is, what we were told anyway S | |||
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"I had a mate who has symptoms of covid and went online for a test yesterday. First 2 attempts were to travel between 150 to 200 miles. He cancelled both and went back later to get one around 20 miles away...which he accepted. Now I though it was just a blip on the system until I've seen the news today and it seems rife across the country. I just think everything our gvmt seems to do is just a massive shambles. What you think? I think he's lucky I know of people this week that have been trying to get a test since Saturday via the gov.uk site but getting the site is busy try again later messages. Aye he would be now...but this thread was posted almost 3 weeks ago..." Nice to see things improving | |||
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" Is it not 14 days? " At the moment it’s 10 days from when your symptoms started or 10 days starting from the day you receive a positive test result if you’re asymptomatic | |||
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"Mart needed to be tested last Monday, got online at 1030, had a test 12 miles away at 1pm, results back 48 hours later. Seems ok to us." I got offered one in 15 minutes that was 24 miles away so I said “Are you sending a helicopter then?”. S | |||
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"It seems Hancock has been reading this thread, as he is passing the blame back on to the public. Apparently the lack of available tests is down to people asking for a test for frivolous reasons. I wonder how long it would take
From what I see he might just be right tho.
Someone sneezes they want a test.
Problem is that the people that should be tested aren't being tested because they don't have symptoms.
Apart from testing everyone every day what's to do ?
Better triage ?
Insist those with symptoms isolate rather than get tested as it's a bit of a waste ?
Only test those who thrown up by track and trace ?
What's the answers ?
"You can shot all the question Mark's in that you wish. The simple reply is we should never have got to this stage. We have had 6 months to get this sorted But now after we have sent the kids back to school with all the huffing and puffing about how safe it was to do so..we find ourselves in the position that we do not have enough test capacity to do this. Poorly planned on every footing and has made it a total shambles. | |||
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