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"They have never said kids dont spread it. Just that kids dont seem to get poorly with it. You do realise the rates of positive tests is 0.1% for primary and 0.7% for secondary schools. So not exactly worrying figures. And all will Have no doubt caught it before returning to schools. We can't hide away forever " | |||
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"I didn't start the threads I emwas contributing to discussions Have you got anything of value to add to debate" Oh you’re debating. To be honest it looks like spamming. | |||
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"They have never said kids dont spread it. Just that kids dont seem to get poorly with it. You do realise the rates of positive tests is 0.1% for primary and 0.7% for secondary schools. So not exactly worrying figures. And all will Have no doubt caught it before returning to schools. We can't hide away forever " What if kids pass on to grand parents of at rusks parents? | |||
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"Kids need an education plain and simple, Jesus we have enough idiots in this country already you can't abandon a generation. " What if child's parents in high rusk category. So becoming an orphan price worth paying for education | |||
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"Kids need an education plain and simple, Jesus we have enough idiots in this country already you can't abandon a generation. What if child's parents in high rusk category. So becoming an orphan price worth paying for education" What if what if what if! You still can't abandon a child's education its tantamount to abuse. | |||
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"They have never said kids dont spread it. Just that kids dont seem to get poorly with it. You do realise the rates of positive tests is 0.1% for primary and 0.7% for secondary schools. So not exactly worrying figures. And all will Have no doubt caught it before returning to schools. We can't hide away forever " If 0.7% is true then that is 700 per 100,000 (in two weeks) so 350/100,000 over 7 days. Countries go on the "red" list if they are over 20/100,000. Should England close border with Scotland? Given there are 322,000 secondary pupils in scotland then 0.7% would mean 2170 positive tests in the 2 weeks.....massively more than the total figures for the whole of Scotland.... | |||
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"Furthermore anyone who is at high risk of sheltering would have the oppertunity to keep their children at home under valid grounds, they would have the governments letter to inform them that they are high risk and should be sheltering, therfore wouldn5 be expected to send children to school and they could continue to home school, as in reality they should not be going anywhere else. " Unfortunately high risk people are being forced in England to send their kids back to schook They are not given the options keeps kids off Can I ask where and why do think they been given that option | |||
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"Furthermore anyone who is at high risk of sheltering would have the oppertunity to keep their children at home under valid grounds, they would have the governments letter to inform them that they are high risk and should be sheltering, therfore wouldn5 be expected to send children to school " But shielding finished on 1st August. Those letters aren't valid any more | |||
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"Is this 4 threads you’ve posted about this now." Yes, He seems to like talking about school children. Wish these guys would stop tbh | |||
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"Schools were closed originally to effectively lock down the country, take away 75% of the populations ability to work by stopping their kids going to school was that simple. In turn that has destroyed 8 months of their education of which some children will take years to catch up if ever especially children from from less privladge backgrounds, or children who already struggle with education. It's time for them to go back for the sake of their future and the country's future , the r rate is at is lowest the death rate at its Lowest. If parents are worried about their kids spreading the virus they should create their own bubble excluding anyone they feel would be at risk, it is as much the individuals responsibility to safeguard the the community as it is the government's. I fully support both of my children going back into education, as much as we have done at home to negate the effects of lock down we arnt primary school teachers. We cant & don't understand the correct methods in which teachers use to enhance learning, otherwise no one would need a degree to be a teacher and everyone would home school. " So high risk parents lives are not important andd happy for them to potential die for sake of education. Any reasonable person would agree education is important but not at the cost of a high risk parents life The other view is we need school to chikdmind our kids so people can go back to work. They are predicting 120k deaths over the winter is that not a problem asas long u can go to work that's ok THERE IS ONLY ONE ROUTE BACK TO NORMAL WHICH IS WHAT ALL WANT A VACCINE. hold you nerve it may be here by Christmas Stop being selfish and putting vulnerable and high risk people at risk of dying | |||
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"I'm apparently high risk. If my children were at school they would be going. In fact my younger two are both off to college next week. My grandkids have been in school the whole time anyway... We need to get back to some sort of normality and schools are more important than most other things that have opened " I hope you don't get it. Your only high risk once catch it. Do you want take that gamble | |||
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"I'm apparently high risk. If my children were at school they would be going. In fact my younger two are both off to college next week. My grandkids have been in school the whole time anyway... We need to get back to some sort of normality and schools are more important than most other things that have opened " Agreed schools very important but not more than health and risk to vulnerable parent health. People to hold tgere nerve. As may have solution The only route back to normality is vaccine Which could be Xmas. Otherwise 120k dear this is possible is 120k OK so you can use school as a childminder | |||
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"I'm apparently high risk. If my children were at school they would be going. In fact my younger two are both off to college next week. My grandkids have been in school the whole time anyway... We need to get back to some sort of normality and schools are more important than most other things that have opened " Wow...you dont look old enough to have kids that age, let alone e grandkids  | |||
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"The Scottish government reported on Tuesday that almost 40,000 pupils had been tested for coronavirus since term started, with 117 positive results. Thats, approx, 250 per 100000. They closed Leicester, at 140. What's happening up there Thought kids didn't spread it." You are getting figures mixed up. The figure for Leicester was 140 per 100,000 of the population rather than per 100,000 of tests which is what you are stating with scotland. There are 700,000 school children in Scotland with 117 positive cases so that's 16.7 cases per 100,000 school children. Also, the Leicester figure was 140 cases at a given time. You are quoting cases in Scotland over a 3 week period. Finally, 40,000 kids is 6% of Scottish children tested in 3 weeks. This is a considerable amount of testing especially when the UK total test for the population in 6 months is 22%. Kids who cough at school get sent home and have to get tested now. Really can't compare with Leicester. | |||
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"Schools were closed originally to effectively lock down the country, take away 75% of the populations ability to work by stopping their kids going to school was that simple. In turn that has destroyed 8 months of their education of which some children will take years to catch up if ever especially children from from less privladge backgrounds, or children who already struggle with education. It's time for them to go back for the sake of their future and the country's future , the r rate is at is lowest the death rate at its Lowest. If parents are worried about their kids spreading the virus they should create their own bubble excluding anyone they feel would be at risk, it is as much the individuals responsibility to safeguard the the community as it is the government's. I fully support both of my children going back into education, as much as we have done at home to negate the effects of lock down we arnt primary school teachers. We cant & don't understand the correct methods in which teachers use to enhance learning, otherwise no one would need a degree to be a teacher and everyone would home school. So high risk parents lives are not important andd happy for them to potential die for sake of education. Any reasonable person would agree education is important but not at the cost of a high risk parents life The other view is we need school to chikdmind our kids so people can go back to work. They are predicting 120k deaths over the winter is that not a problem asas long u can go to work that's ok THERE IS ONLY ONE ROUTE BACK TO NORMAL WHICH IS WHAT ALL WANT A VACCINE. hold you nerve it may be here by Christmas Stop being selfish and putting vulnerable and high risk people at risk of dying " Why do you assume there will be a vaccine, it may never happen, and this will reoccur like the flu it is, every year | |||
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"Appreciate your clarification. But does prove kids can spread it which is worrying for high risk or vulnerabke parents Any suggestions to vulnerable and high risk parents if a child can catch easily at school. Ie in class potentially 30 different households, no social distancing in a indoor poorly ventilated room and no masks in classroom. Any insight would be helpful 16.7 means a spreading at Same as most cities " That's 16.7 over a 3 week period with considerable amount of testing going on way in excess of the uk average per head. | |||
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"Appreciate your clarification. But does prove kids can spread it which is worrying for high risk or vulnerabke parents Any suggestions to vulnerable and high risk parents if a child can catch easily at school. Ie in class potentially 30 different households, no social distancing in a indoor poorly ventilated room and no masks in classroom. Any insight would be helpful 16.7 means a spreading at Same as most cities " What is your source for non social distancing and poorly ventilated classrooms please | |||
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"Appreciate your clarification. But does prove kids can spread it which is worrying for high risk or vulnerabke parents Any suggestions to vulnerable and high risk parents if a child can catch easily at school. Ie in class potentially 30 different households, no social distancing in a indoor poorly ventilated room and no masks in classroom. Any insight would be helpful 16.7 means a spreading at Same as most cities What is your source for non social distancing and poorly ventilated classrooms please" This is true. Source :a 12 year old. | |||
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"Schools were closed originally to effectively lock down the country, take away 75% of the populations ability to work by stopping their kids going to school was that simple. In turn that has destroyed 8 months of their education of which some children will take years to catch up if ever especially children from from less privladge backgrounds, or children who already struggle with education. It's time for them to go back for the sake of their future and the country's future , the r rate is at is lowest the death rate at its Lowest. If parents are worried about their kids spreading the virus they should create their own bubble excluding anyone they feel would be at risk, it is as much the individuals responsibility to safeguard the the community as it is the government's. I fully support both of my children going back into education, as much as we have done at home to negate the effects of lock down we arnt primary school teachers. We cant & don't understand the correct methods in which teachers use to enhance learning, otherwise no one would need a degree to be a teacher and everyone would home school. So high risk parents lives are not important andd happy for them to potential die for sake of education. Any reasonable person would agree education is important but not at the cost of a high risk parents life The other view is we need school to chikdmind our kids so people can go back to work. They are predicting 120k deaths over the winter is that not a problem asas long u can go to work that's ok THERE IS ONLY ONE ROUTE BACK TO NORMAL WHICH IS WHAT ALL WANT A VACCINE. hold you nerve it may be here by Christmas Stop being selfish and putting vulnerable and high risk people at risk of dying " | |||
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"Schools were closed originally to effectively lock down the country, take away 75% of the populations ability to work by stopping their kids going to school was that simple. In turn that has destroyed 8 months of their education of which some children will take years to catch up if ever especially children from from less privladge backgrounds, or children who already struggle with education. It's time for them to go back for the sake of their future and the country's future , the r rate is at is lowest the death rate at its Lowest. If parents are worried about their kids spreading the virus they should create their own bubble excluding anyone they feel would be at risk, it is as much the individuals responsibility to safeguard the the community as it is the government's. I fully support both of my children going back into education, as much as we have done at home to negate the effects of lock down we arnt primary school teachers. We cant & don't understand the correct methods in which teachers use to enhance learning, otherwise no one would need a degree to be a teacher and everyone would home school. So high risk parents lives are not important andd happy for them to potential die for sake of education. Any reasonable person would agree education is important but not at the cost of a high risk parents life The other view is we need school to chikdmind our kids so people can go back to work. They are predicting 120k deaths over the winter is that not a problem asas long u can go to work that's ok THERE IS ONLY ONE ROUTE BACK TO NORMAL WHICH IS WHAT ALL WANT A VACCINE. hold you nerve it may be here by Christmas Stop being selfish and putting vulnerable and high risk people at risk of dying " | |||
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"Appreciate your clarification. But does prove kids can spread it which is worrying for high risk or vulnerabke parents Any suggestions to vulnerable and high risk parents if a child can catch easily at school. Ie in class potentially 30 different households, no social distancing in a indoor poorly ventilated room and no masks in classroom. Any insight would be helpful 16.7 means a spreading at Same as most cities What is your source for non social distancing and poorly ventilated classrooms please This is true. Source :a 12 year old."  | |||
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"In school is safe and the kids will catch up with their education Out of school is not safe, playdates and households mixing in groups, but that is down to parents and kids, nothing to do with any school. So when an outbreak happens media will blame the school setting when its actually the out of school activities spreading it" This has been our observations. For months now the streets have been swamped with children all herding together and doing what kids do. They sure aren't living apart as it stands so might as well be together in school. | |||
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"What if the child's, parents die Making a child an orphan is far worse " . What if the childs parents get killed crossing the road on the way to work ? It’s called life, it’s risky. It’s also worth understanding that the mortality rate for healthy people under 70 is extremely low. More chance most children will lose their parents from a heart attack or some other illness. | |||
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"She’s a political witch. Total shut down in Aberdeen where there is a low support for SNP. Much worse situation in Glasgow - SNP stronghold. What happens? Limit on gatherings in houses. Not restrictions on pubs, restaurants or social venues. No because that would harm her support base on her daily party political broadcast. Evil little woman. "  | |||
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"In school is safe and the kids will catch up with their education Out of school is not safe, playdates and households mixing in groups, but that is down to parents and kids, nothing to do with any school. So when an outbreak happens media will blame the school setting when its actually the out of school activities spreading it This has been our observations. For months now the streets have been swamped with children all herding together and doing what kids do. They sure aren't living apart as it stands so might as well be together in school." Exactly | |||
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"She’s a political witch. Total shut down in Aberdeen where there is a low support for SNP. Much worse situation in Glasgow - SNP stronghold. What happens? Limit on gatherings in houses. Not restrictions on pubs, restaurants or social venues. No because that would harm her support base on her daily party political broadcast. Evil little woman. " Its weird how so many people in England have such dislike for a politician who puts into perspective how much of a clown we are lumbered with . | |||
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"The Scottish government reported on Tuesday that almost 40,000 pupils had been tested for coronavirus since term started, with 117 positive results. Thats, approx, 250 per 100000. They closed Leicester, at 140. What's happening up there Thought kids didn't spread it. You are getting figures mixed up. The figure for Leicester was 140 per 100,000 of the population rather than per 100,000 of tests which is what you are stating with scotland. There are 700,000 school children in Scotland with 117 positive cases so that's 16.7 cases per 100,000 school children. Also, the Leicester figure was 140 cases at a given time. You are quoting cases in Scotland over a 3 week period. Finally, 40,000 kids is 6% of Scottish children tested in 3 weeks. This is a considerable amount of testing especially when the UK total test for the population in 6 months is 22%. Kids who cough at school get sent home and have to get tested now. Really can't compare with Leicester." Well said but That doesn't fit his narrative, far too sensible.  | |||
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"She’s a political witch. Total shut down in Aberdeen where there is a low support for SNP. Much worse situation in Glasgow - SNP stronghold. What happens? Limit on gatherings in houses. Not restrictions on pubs, restaurants or social venues. No because that would harm her support base on her daily party political broadcast. Evil little woman. " Maybe that's because in Aberdeen the cases were linked to a number of pubs so the people who had been exposed to the virus were the types of people who would continue to use pubs and spread it more rapidly. The cases in Glasgow are linked to house parties. So, in Aberdeen closing pubs makes sense. In Glasgow, preventing house parties makes sense. Don't you think? | |||
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"Kids need an education plain and simple, Jesus we have enough idiots in this country already you can't abandon a generation. What if child's parents in high rusk category. So becoming an orphan price worth paying for education" My advice hasn't changed from the last time. If parents or children are at a specific risk and or have medical conditions talk to the local school and education authority. For the parents that simply don't want to send the children to school then contact their local education authority for help with home learning and properly taking their children off the school role. For the other children, let them live life and go to school | |||
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"Kids need an education plain and simple, Jesus we have enough idiots in this country already you can't abandon a generation. What if child's parents in high rusk category. So becoming an orphan price worth paying for education" Better to be a smart orphan then a stupid one. | |||
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"Kids need an education plain and simple, Jesus we have enough idiots in this country already you can't abandon a generation. What if child's parents in high rusk category. So becoming an orphan price worth paying for education" Clearly not. So lets just shut up shop, dont send kids to School, all stay at home, sod work. Live off Benefits until that runs out. Save enough money to have one last Tui flight without a need for a mask. Or Get real and try and get back to some sort of normality, obey the rules, be that extra bit careful and not treating everyone like an idiot pretending only i know best. | |||
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"Kids need an education plain and simple, Jesus we have enough idiots in this country already you can't abandon a generation. What if child's parents in high rusk category. So becoming an orphan price worth paying for education Better to be a smart orphan then a stupid one. " Brilliant | |||
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"Kids need an education plain and simple, Jesus we have enough idiots in this country already you can't abandon a generation. What if child's parents in high rusk category. So becoming an orphan price worth paying for education Better to be a smart orphan then a stupid one. " Do you realise how stupid that comment actually is, without considering the sentiment | |||
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"I'm apparently high risk. If my children were at school they would be going. In fact my younger two are both off to college next week. My grandkids have been in school the whole time anyway... We need to get back to some sort of normality and schools are more important than most other things that have opened " Exactly! I'm considered high risk to being asthmatic diabetic and 63 but yes kids need normality x | |||
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"I'm apparently high risk. If my children were at school they would be going. In fact my younger two are both off to college next week. My grandkids have been in school the whole time anyway... We need to get back to some sort of normality and schools are more important than most other things that have opened Exactly! I'm considered high risk to being asthmatic diabetic and 63 but yes kids need normality x" Yes but do need the death of a parent or grand parent. Health is more important then school | |||
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"Kids need an education plain and simple, Jesus we have enough idiots in this country already you can't abandon a generation. What if child's parents in high rusk category. So becoming an orphan price worth paying for education Better to be a smart orphan then a stupid one. " You are scum. So morally wrong. Hope your parents never realise how much you don't value them | |||
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"Kids need an education plain and simple, Jesus we have enough idiots in this country already you can't abandon a generation. What if child's parents in high rusk category. So becoming an orphan price worth paying for education Better to be a smart orphan then a stupid one. Do you realise how stupid that comment actually is, without considering the sentiment "Thanks | |||
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"Kids need an education plain and simple, Jesus we have enough idiots in this country already you can't abandon a generation. What if child's parents in high rusk category. So becoming an orphan price worth paying for education Better to be a smart orphan then a stupid one. Brilliant"Hope your parents don't realise how much you value their life | |||
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"Why so you have a, child minder fir education So if your child spreads the virus, to you as your in risk category and you get ill " Why do I need a child minder? I'm in risk category? | |||
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"Why so you have a, child minder fir education So if your child spreads the virus, to you as your in risk category and you get ill " You have got a screw loose Mr. Stop preaching. | |||
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"Why so you have a, child minder fir education So if your child spreads the virus, to you as your in risk category and you get ill Why do I need a child minder? I'm in risk category? " Yes you in risk category | |||
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"Kids need an education plain and simple, Jesus we have enough idiots in this country already you can't abandon a generation. What if child's parents in high rusk category. So becoming an orphan price worth paying for education Better to be a smart orphan then a stupid one. Brilliant
Hope your parents don't realise how much you value their life"it was suppose to be a scarcastic Remark, apologises that some have taken it the wrong way it wasnt intended. Can you now explain why you felt the need to send us an abusive message to our account ? Forums are forums and should be kept in the Forum For your info our Parents are no longer here. In our professions we have saved more lives than you will ever realise, but hey thanks for the lecture  | |||
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"Schools are not ‘safe’ at any time Influenza and the viruses that circulate most winters are a risk for children Children are probably better influenza spreaders than covid spreaders - even in ‘normal’ times they are a risk for at risk relatives - that’s why the NHS in recent years have been giving primary kids the vaccine - often to stop them spreading and protect the elderly and vulnerable So the answer is no they aren’t ‘safe’, but they never really were or will be - but like wearing a seatbelt doesn’t guarantee you dying from a car crash - they’re probably as safe as you can realistically get them without abandoning education altogether " I live near a school and as I type this can hear the shrieks, laughter, tears, shouts of 500 kids having a school day. First time in over 5 months. It's like a shot of adrenaline. So nice to hear. Now I personally think it's going to be a car crash and within a month its going to look very different. I hope I'm wrong. But the point of this post is that it's a helpful reminder of what we are trying to get to... And if we can get it right. Will be a great achievement in the circumstances. Well done the teachers and school staff. | |||
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"Kids need an education plain and simple, Jesus we have enough idiots in this country already you can't abandon a generation. What if child's parents in high rusk category. So becoming an orphan price worth paying for education" So what's your answer ? Wrap our kids up in Cotton wool until they are 21, There is risk in all parts of our life. I go skiing every year. Should I not do that or encourage my kids to have a go at it as it's much too dangerous. Should I cross the road later to take the dog for a walk. Your arguments are just silly ? There is risk in everything we do every single moment of our lives. At the moment it's up a little bit, that's all. | |||
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"Kids need an education plain and simple, Jesus we have enough idiots in this country already you can't abandon a generation. What if child's parents in high rusk category. So becoming an orphan price worth paying for education So what's your answer ? Wrap our kids up in Cotton wool until they are 21, There is risk in all parts of our life. I go skiing every year. Should I not do that or encourage my kids to have a go at it as it's much too dangerous. Should I cross the road later to take the dog for a walk. Your arguments are just silly ? There is risk in everything we do every single moment of our lives. At the moment it's up a little bit, that's all." Risks are acceptable, and other countries have managed the risk and successfully resumed school The difference I can see is that in those countries people have much more respect for themselves, others and guidelines and can understand the risks. Seems to me that to a large portion of people in the uk think risk management means "fuck it, that only applies to others" and reading these forums only strengthens that view. | |||
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"Who says we wont be successful here. For goodness sake they've only just gone back and you are already prophesying how dark and terrible it all is and that cases will rise. Maybe they will but evidence suggests hospitalisations may not. The stats say that at this precise moment the spread is flat. We will never eradicate it so the kids have got to go back. some people's suggestions that we are all selfish so and so's that don't give a fuck about anyone else is frankly very insulting to the vast majority of us that do care. We just not nut jobs about it and want to return to some sort of normality." I specifically said " a large portion" not "all" don't care for others. It's represented here in these forums for all to read. | |||
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"We will never eradicate it so the kids have got to go back." How would you react if it was Ebola but spread by coughing and sneezing and touch? Or AIDS? Or Herpes? | |||
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"Who says we wont be successful here. For goodness sake they've only just gone back and you are already prophesying how dark and terrible it all is and that cases will rise. Maybe they will but evidence suggests hospitalisations may not. The stats say that at this precise moment the spread is flat. We will never eradicate it so the kids have got to go back. some people's suggestions that we are all selfish so and so's that don't give a fuck about anyone else is frankly very insulting to the vast majority of us that do care. We just not nut jobs about it and want to return to some sort of normality." Oh, and I'm certainly not a "prophet" and I don't see doom and gloom, and I'd prefer people to be sensible so it doesn't turn to doom and gloom | |||
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"Why so you have a, child minder fir education So if your child spreads the virus, to you as your in risk category and you get ill Why do I need a child minder? I'm in risk category? Yes you in risk category " What makes you say that? | |||
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"The op needs to lock himself away for his own sanity and for the protection of others someone cut his Internet of please!! " How rude Everyone is entitled to have an opinion or ask a question !!! | |||
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"Why so you have a, child minder fir education So if your child spreads the virus, to you as your in risk category and you get ill Why do I need a child minder? I'm in risk category? " I am glad I'm not the only one that cant work out this bit. My kids are too old for school. But my youngest is off to college next week. My grandkids are all back at school too x well the ones old enough. X | |||
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"Why so you have a, child minder fir education So if your child spreads the virus, to you as your in risk category and you get ill Why do I need a child minder? I'm in risk category? I am glad I'm not the only one that cant work out this bit. My kids are too old for school. But my youngest is off to college next week. My grandkids are all back at school too x well the ones old enough. X" I'm just waiting for the OP to come back and tell me why he's telling me I need a childminder and why, in his obviously highly qualified medical experience, he seems to think it's OK to put me in any medical category. | |||
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"We’re a “joined” family, complete with step parent and children / sibling rolls" Do they sell sibling rolls at Greggs ? | |||
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"They couldn’t keep schools closed forever, it was having a real effect on the wellbeing of that generation. Plus, how would they sort next years exams if the students keep missing classes. Some subjects just can’t be taught as well remotely - you can’t do science experiments safely in your kitchen or have the resources to do it. Home schooling doesn’t work for everyone and meant many were falling further behind in their work. It’s a risk, yes, sending children back to school, but without trying it, you won’t know the possible outcome. " Are they teaching practical subjects in secondary? I know in primary we aren’t. | |||
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"Look how I see it is like this: If you’re in the “at risk” group then you’ll be self isolating. Keeping yourself out of harms way. If you are concerned about your kids, then pull them out of education and home school them. We did that with two of our kids PRE COVID19. Our eldest should be in her GCSE year 11 now. Instead she’s doing an A-Level equivalent course. Started it a year early because she went back into education at college (Local Education Authority’s home Ed department approved course!), excelled at it, got her GCSE at year 10 equivalent with flying colours. So they approved her for Further Education level. We are an “at risk” house hold. Currently our eldest 2 are in college, and youngest 3 are in school (2 in high school, 1 in primary)*. It’s our (and the kids) choice to do so. If we didn’t feel happy we’d home school then. Moral: If you’re not happy, home school them. If you have to go to work and don’t want to send kids to school, get family to help out if you can. Do what’s best for you and your family. There’s always options, but they may not always be the one you’d like. *We’re a “joined” family, complete with step parent and children / sibling rolls." Suppose you don’t have family? Suppose you’re a single parent not equipped to home school? There are only choices for those lucky enough to have money and support surely. Many many children in this country have been sent back with extremely vulnerable family/ siblings due to the fact that there is no choice. That is the unforgivable part ...... | |||
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"Look how I see it is like this: If you’re in the “at risk” group then you’ll be self isolating. Keeping yourself out of harms way. If you are concerned about your kids, then pull them out of education and home school them. We did that with two of our kids PRE COVID19. Our eldest should be in her GCSE year 11 now. Instead she’s doing an A-Level equivalent course. Started it a year early because she went back into education at college (Local Education Authority’s home Ed department approved course!), excelled at it, got her GCSE at year 10 equivalent with flying colours. So they approved her for Further Education level. We are an “at risk” house hold. Currently our eldest 2 are in college, and youngest 3 are in school (2 in high school, 1 in primary)*. It’s our (and the kids) choice to do so. If we didn’t feel happy we’d home school then. Moral: If you’re not happy, home school them. If you have to go to work and don’t want to send kids to school, get family to help out if you can. Do what’s best for you and your family. There’s always options, but they may not always be the one you’d like. *We’re a “joined” family, complete with step parent and children / sibling rolls. Suppose you don’t have family? Suppose you’re a single parent not equipped to home school? There are only choices for those lucky enough to have money and support surely. Many many children in this country have been sent back with extremely vulnerable family/ siblings due to the fact that there is no choice. That is the unforgivable part ...... " Hope you don’t mind me asking, but what do you mean by “not equipped”? You have the internet, or you wouldn’t be posting on here. A biro pen costs about 60p. Pads of paper aren’t expensive. For homeschooling there is no curriculum. The LEAs are happy so long as the child is learning something. Teach the child to cook & clean. Take them shopping, then use the receipt to work out VAT rates. If you have a garden, teach them gardening. Get a map, teach the kids how to read it. Pets? Animal welfare. I understand not everyone has family, but if a person should happen to be a single parent from a vulnerable family that is shielding (as I suggested) then that person won’t be working and have the time to do so. Also, I checked with Greggs. A sibling roll has extra cheese on it and tastes salty. | |||
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"Look how I see it is like this: If you’re in the “at risk” group then you’ll be self isolating. Keeping yourself out of harms way. If you are concerned about your kids, then pull them out of education and home school them. We did that with two of our kids PRE COVID19. Our eldest should be in her GCSE year 11 now. Instead she’s doing an A-Level equivalent course. Started it a year early because she went back into education at college (Local Education Authority’s home Ed department approved course!), excelled at it, got her GCSE at year 10 equivalent with flying colours. So they approved her for Further Education level. We are an “at risk” house hold. Currently our eldest 2 are in college, and youngest 3 are in school (2 in high school, 1 in primary)*. It’s our (and the kids) choice to do so. If we didn’t feel happy we’d home school then. Moral: If you’re not happy, home school them. If you have to go to work and don’t want to send kids to school, get family to help out if you can. Do what’s best for you and your family. There’s always options, but they may not always be the one you’d like. *We’re a “joined” family, complete with step parent and children / sibling rolls. Suppose you don’t have family? Suppose you’re a single parent not equipped to home school? There are only choices for those lucky enough to have money and support surely. Many many children in this country have been sent back with extremely vulnerable family/ siblings due to the fact that there is no choice. That is the unforgivable part ...... Hope you don’t mind me asking, but what do you mean by “not equipped”? You have the internet, or you wouldn’t be posting on here. A biro pen costs about 60p. Pads of paper aren’t expensive. For homeschooling there is no curriculum. The LEAs are happy so long as the child is learning something. Teach the child to cook & clean. Take them shopping, then use the receipt to work out VAT rates. If you have a garden, teach them gardening. Get a map, teach the kids how to read it. Pets? Animal welfare. I understand not everyone has family, but if a person should happen to be a single parent from a vulnerable family that is shielding (as I suggested) then that person won’t be working and have the time to do so. Also, I checked with Greggs. A sibling roll has extra cheese on it and tastes salty." Ahh I see where you’re coming from you think I’m talking about me. No - I’m a teacher I’m trained to be equipped. I was thinking of others less fortunate - see the difference? | |||
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"Look how I see it is like this: If you’re in the “at risk” group then you’ll be self isolating. Keeping yourself out of harms way. If you are concerned about your kids, then pull them out of education and home school them. We did that with two of our kids PRE COVID19. Our eldest should be in her GCSE year 11 now. Instead she’s doing an A-Level equivalent course. Started it a year early because she went back into education at college (Local Education Authority’s home Ed department approved course!), excelled at it, got her GCSE at year 10 equivalent with flying colours. So they approved her for Further Education level. We are an “at risk” house hold. Currently our eldest 2 are in college, and youngest 3 are in school (2 in high school, 1 in primary)*. It’s our (and the kids) choice to do so. If we didn’t feel happy we’d home school then. Moral: If you’re not happy, home school them. If you have to go to work and don’t want to send kids to school, get family to help out if you can. Do what’s best for you and your family. There’s always options, but they may not always be the one you’d like. *We’re a “joined” family, complete with step parent and children / sibling rolls. Suppose you don’t have family? Suppose you’re a single parent not equipped to home school? There are only choices for those lucky enough to have money and support surely. Many many children in this country have been sent back with extremely vulnerable family/ siblings due to the fact that there is no choice. That is the unforgivable part ...... Hope you don’t mind me asking, but what do you mean by “not equipped”? You have the internet, or you wouldn’t be posting on here. A biro pen costs about 60p. Pads of paper aren’t expensive. For homeschooling there is no curriculum. The LEAs are happy so long as the child is learning something. Teach the child to cook & clean. Take them shopping, then use the receipt to work out VAT rates. If you have a garden, teach them gardening. Get a map, teach the kids how to read it. Pets? Animal welfare. I understand not everyone has family, but if a person should happen to be a single parent from a vulnerable family that is shielding (as I suggested) then that person won’t be working and have the time to do so. Also, I checked with Greggs. A sibling roll has extra cheese on it and tastes salty." ..... not necessarily able to hone school depending on the attitude and attitude of the child and the parent. Also the age of the child. Not everyone is academically able enough to deliver a KS3/4 curriculum hell I worked with many parents last term whom I had to teach KS2 maths in order for them to teach their children. Oh and not everyone has a garden or even a dedicated space in which their child can learn with no distractions. | |||
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"Look how I see it is like this: If you’re in the “at risk” group then you’ll be self isolating. Keeping yourself out of harms way. If you are concerned about your kids, then pull them out of education and home school them. We did that with two of our kids PRE COVID19. Our eldest should be in her GCSE year 11 now. Instead she’s doing an A-Level equivalent course. Started it a year early because she went back into education at college (Local Education Authority’s home Ed department approved course!), excelled at it, got her GCSE at year 10 equivalent with flying colours. So they approved her for Further Education level. We are an “at risk” house hold. Currently our eldest 2 are in college, and youngest 3 are in school (2 in high school, 1 in primary)*. It’s our (and the kids) choice to do so. If we didn’t feel happy we’d home school then. Moral: If you’re not happy, home school them. If you have to go to work and don’t want to send kids to school, get family to help out if you can. Do what’s best for you and your family. There’s always options, but they may not always be the one you’d like. *We’re a “joined” family, complete with step parent and children / sibling rolls. Suppose you don’t have family? Suppose you’re a single parent not equipped to home school? There are only choices for those lucky enough to have money and support surely. Many many children in this country have been sent back with extremely vulnerable family/ siblings due to the fact that there is no choice. That is the unforgivable part ...... Hope you don’t mind me asking, but what do you mean by “not equipped”? You have the internet, or you wouldn’t be posting on here. A biro pen costs about 60p. Pads of paper aren’t expensive. For homeschooling there is no curriculum. The LEAs are happy so long as the child is learning something. Teach the child to cook & clean. Take them shopping, then use the receipt to work out VAT rates. If you have a garden, teach them gardening. Get a map, teach the kids how to read it. Pets? Animal welfare. I understand not everyone has family, but if a person should happen to be a single parent from a vulnerable family that is shielding (as I suggested) then that person won’t be working and have the time to do so. Also, I checked with Greggs. A sibling roll has extra cheese on it and tastes salty. ..... not necessarily able to hone school depending on the attitude and attitude of the child and the parent. Also the age of the child. Not everyone is academically able enough to deliver a KS3/4 curriculum hell I worked with many parents last term whom I had to teach KS2 maths in order for them to teach their children. Oh and not everyone has a garden or even a dedicated space in which their child can learn with no distractions. " That’s the thing, speaking with the LEA here and elsewhere, the key stages of education that you teach in school honestly don’t mean a damn in home schooling, as there’s no grading or examination system in place. We made sure that our kids were doing maths and English, but it’s not mandatory for HE kids to do it. If said child requires qualifications they need to enter an environment that will teach and test in the subject, such as a college. HE isn’t for everyone but it is a solution should people feel the need arising | |||
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"Look how I see it is like this: If you’re in the “at risk” group then you’ll be self isolating. Keeping yourself out of harms way. If you are concerned about your kids, then pull them out of education and home school them. We did that with two of our kids PRE COVID19. Our eldest should be in her GCSE year 11 now. Instead she’s doing an A-Level equivalent course. Started it a year early because she went back into education at college (Local Education Authority’s home Ed department approved course!), excelled at it, got her GCSE at year 10 equivalent with flying colours. So they approved her for Further Education level. We are an “at risk” house hold. Currently our eldest 2 are in college, and youngest 3 are in school (2 in high school, 1 in primary)*. It’s our (and the kids) choice to do so. If we didn’t feel happy we’d home school then. Moral: If you’re not happy, home school them. If you have to go to work and don’t want to send kids to school, get family to help out if you can. Do what’s best for you and your family. There’s always options, but they may not always be the one you’d like. *We’re a “joined” family, complete with step parent and children / sibling rolls. Suppose you don’t have family? Suppose you’re a single parent not equipped to home school? There are only choices for those lucky enough to have money and support surely. Many many children in this country have been sent back with extremely vulnerable family/ siblings due to the fact that there is no choice. That is the unforgivable part ...... Hope you don’t mind me asking, but what do you mean by “not equipped”? You have the internet, or you wouldn’t be posting on here. A biro pen costs about 60p. Pads of paper aren’t expensive. For homeschooling there is no curriculum. The LEAs are happy so long as the child is learning something. Teach the child to cook & clean. Take them shopping, then use the receipt to work out VAT rates. If you have a garden, teach them gardening. Get a map, teach the kids how to read it. Pets? Animal welfare. I understand not everyone has family, but if a person should happen to be a single parent from a vulnerable family that is shielding (as I suggested) then that person won’t be working and have the time to do so. Also, I checked with Greggs. A sibling roll has extra cheese on it and tastes salty. ..... not necessarily able to hone school depending on the attitude and attitude of the child and the parent. Also the age of the child. Not everyone is academically able enough to deliver a KS3/4 curriculum hell I worked with many parents last term whom I had to teach KS2 maths in order for them to teach their children. Oh and not everyone has a garden or even a dedicated space in which their child can learn with no distractions. That’s the thing, speaking with the LEA here and elsewhere, the key stages of education that you teach in school honestly don’t mean a damn in home schooling, as there’s no grading or examination system in place. We made sure that our kids were doing maths and English, but it’s not mandatory for HE kids to do it. If said child requires qualifications they need to enter an environment that will teach and test in the subject, such as a college. HE isn’t for everyone but it is a solution should people feel the need arising " I think the point is that it's not an option for everyone so some people had to send their children back to school whether they wanted to or not. I personally think school is vital for our children's development. | |||
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"My views on schools have done an about turn in recent weeks. Whilst I can certainly still see the risk in kids returning to school (and it does concern me), I now feel that needs to be the priority. I've seen how too many are being affected by mental health issues due to lockdown and pressures on parents spilling over to the kids locked up with them. In my opinion, we need to be prioritising schools now and building more robust protection behind that by not loosening so many other restrictions so quickly and being harsher about enforcement. Especially pubs. Pubs were reopened purely for economic reasons, with strict rules in place about households not mixing, sitting at tables, not even socialing with friends if you bump into them there, and it's gone to pot already. People are out getting d*unk with big groups of friends amongst crowds of strangers as if all is normal. It's then impossible for them to care about "smaller" risks of mixing in other ways, hugging friends, forgetting to wash hands and even meeting randoms for sex. Experts say we need to be very cautious and yet government now merely pay lip service. They can't openly admit the extent that theyre prioritising the economy so have to claim it's "safe" to get back to work, open pubs etc, knowing fine well that precautions arent being properly taken but of course they can blame us for "not listening" when it goes wrong. Huge numbers aren't caring a jot whilst scared elderly people in care homes don't understand why their families have apparently abandoned them. It's heartbreaking. But what the hell... quick gratification is easy to be selfish about, especially when we're all bored of restrictions and impatient for normality "? | |||
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"The Scottish government reported on Tuesday that almost 40,000 pupils had been tested for coronavirus since term started, with 117 positive results. Thats, approx, 250 per 100000. They closed Leicester, at 140. What's happening up there Thought kids didn't spread it." So OK to put parents, at risk | |||
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"The Scottish government reported on Tuesday that almost 40,000 pupils had been tested for coronavirus since term started, with 117 positive results. Thats, approx, 250 per 100000. They closed Leicester, at 140. What's happening up there Thought kids didn't spread it. So OK to put parents, at risk" The risk is far lower now than it was. You're just trying to cause fear and panic. Do you have school age children? | |||
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