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"The government is welcoming people's views on a vaccine and are currently holding an official consultation open until the 18th of September. If you wish to make your views known, whatever they may be, here is the link to the consultation. I'm sure this is an allowed link due to it being to the official government consultation site. https://consultations.dhsc.gov.uk/5f43b8aca0980b6fc0198f9f" Is this like a: 'I would like it in my left arm / right arm kind of thing lol. ? | |||
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"Is this like a: 'I would like it in my left arm / right arm kind of thing lol. ?" I'm hoping we can nominate injection sites for other people... 
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"Whats in the vaccine?." Would you know if it was put on here? Me neither.. If it's gone through the necessary testing etc then it will be the same as the other vaccines you and I and our kids were given.. Yes? | |||
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"Whats in the vaccine?. Would you know if it was put on here? Me neither.. If it's gone through the necessary testing etc then it will be the same as the other vaccines you and I and our kids were given.. Yes?" Well! Im glad you said that!! https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/distributing-vaccines-and-treatments-for-covid-19-and-flu/consultation-document-changes-to-human-medicine-regulations-to-support-the-rollout-of-covid-19-vaccines | |||
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"Whats in the vaccine?. Would you know if it was put on here? Me neither.. If it's gone through the necessary testing etc then it will be the same as the other vaccines you and I and our kids were given.. Yes? Well! Im glad you said that!! https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/distributing-vaccines-and-treatments-for-covid-19-and-flu/consultation-document-changes-to-human-medicine-regulations-to-support-the-rollout-of-covid-19-vaccines " From the document: A temporary authorisation of the supply of an unlicensed vaccine could be given by the UK’s licensing authority under regulation 174 of the Human Medicines Regulations (see below). A COVID-19 vaccine would only be authorised in this way if the UK’s licensing authority was satisfied that there is sufficient evidence to demonstrate the safety, quality and efficacy of the vaccine. ‘Unlicensed’ does not mean ‘untested’: this temporary authorisation process exists to address the possibility that, in certain situations of public health need, the licensing authority may consider that the balance of risk and benefit to patients justifies the temporary supply of the relevant vaccine pending the issue of a product licence. | |||
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"Whats in the vaccine?. Would you know if it was put on here? Me neither.. If it's gone through the necessary testing etc then it will be the same as the other vaccines you and I and our kids were given.. Yes? Well! Im glad you said that!! https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/distributing-vaccines-and-treatments-for-covid-19-and-flu/consultation-document-changes-to-human-medicine-regulations-to-support-the-rollout-of-covid-19-vaccines From the document: A temporary authorisation of the supply of an unlicensed vaccine could be given by the UK’s licensing authority under regulation 174 of the Human Medicines Regulations (see below). A COVID-19 vaccine would only be authorised in this way if the UK’s licensing authority was satisfied that there is sufficient evidence to demonstrate the safety, quality and efficacy of the vaccine. ‘Unlicensed’ does not mean ‘untested’: this temporary authorisation process exists to address the possibility that, in certain situations of public health need, the licensing authority may consider that the balance of risk and benefit to patients justifies the temporary supply of the relevant vaccine pending the issue of a product licence." What that means, in practice, is that the consultees to whom this document is addressed are a specialist audience, made up of people and organisations that we would expect have a detailed knowledge of the legislative and practical context in which these proposals sit – and also of the likely impact of the measures. | |||
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"Whats in the vaccine?. Would you know if it was put on here? Me neither.. If it's gone through the necessary testing etc then it will be the same as the other vaccines you and I and our kids were given.. Yes? Well! Im glad you said that!! https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/distributing-vaccines-and-treatments-for-covid-19-and-flu/consultation-document-changes-to-human-medicine-regulations-to-support-the-rollout-of-covid-19-vaccines From the document: A temporary authorisation of the supply of an unlicensed vaccine could be given by the UK’s licensing authority under regulation 174 of the Human Medicines Regulations (see below). A COVID-19 vaccine would only be authorised in this way if the UK’s licensing authority was satisfied that there is sufficient evidence to demonstrate the safety, quality and efficacy of the vaccine. ‘Unlicensed’ does not mean ‘untested’: this temporary authorisation process exists to address the possibility that, in certain situations of public health need, the licensing authority may consider that the balance of risk and benefit to patients justifies the temporary supply of the relevant vaccine pending the issue of a product licence. What that means, in practice, is that the consultees to whom this document is addressed are a specialist audience, made up of people and organisations that we would expect have a detailed knowledge of the legislative and practical context in which these proposals sit – and also of the likely impact of the measures." This consultation is about the changes to the UK regulatory framework for human medicines, which are being introduced to clarify the regulatory context that is relevant to mass vaccination | |||
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"Whats in the vaccine?. Would you know if it was put on here? Me neither.. If it's gone through the necessary testing etc then it will be the same as the other vaccines you and I and our kids were given.. Yes? Well! Im glad you said that!! https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/distributing-vaccines-and-treatments-for-covid-19-and-flu/consultation-document-changes-to-human-medicine-regulations-to-support-the-rollout-of-covid-19-vaccines " Tbh i don't have the expertise in relation to speeding things up but that could be a could thing for other vaccines or drugs etc.. I think before it's released for general use it will have to be shown it has been through the necessary safeguards albeit a bit more sharpishly.. | |||
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"Whats in the vaccine?. Would you know if it was put on here? Me neither.. If it's gone through the necessary testing etc then it will be the same as the other vaccines you and I and our kids were given.. Yes? Well! Im glad you said that!! https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/distributing-vaccines-and-treatments-for-covid-19-and-flu/consultation-document-changes-to-human-medicine-regulations-to-support-the-rollout-of-covid-19-vaccines From the document: A temporary authorisation of the supply of an unlicensed vaccine could be given by the UK’s licensing authority under regulation 174 of the Human Medicines Regulations (see below). A COVID-19 vaccine would only be authorised in this way if the UK’s licensing authority was satisfied that there is sufficient evidence to demonstrate the safety, quality and efficacy of the vaccine. ‘Unlicensed’ does not mean ‘untested’: this temporary authorisation process exists to address the possibility that, in certain situations of public health need, the licensing authority may consider that the balance of risk and benefit to patients justifies the temporary supply of the relevant vaccine pending the issue of a product licence. What that means, in practice, is that the consultees to whom this document is addressed are a specialist audience, made up of people and organisations that we would expect have a detailed knowledge of the legislative and practical context in which these proposals sit – and also of the likely impact of the measures. This consultation is about the changes to the UK regulatory framework for human medicines, which are being introduced to clarify the regulatory context that is relevant to mass vaccination" 2. Civil liability and immunity Any decision to roll out mass vaccination programmes for unlicensed COVID-19 vaccines, or indeed any pandemic disease treatments, will be taken nationally, not by the individual companies manufacturing or marketing the product. The current legal framework already recognises that if manufacturers or healthcare professionals are asked to supply an unlicensed medicine in response to a public health threat, it is unfair also to ask them to take responsibility for the consequences of the use of that medicine in the way that they normally would. | |||
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"And Im not even an anti vaxxer!! "All of the above, except for my last comment, are directly copied from the document from gov.uk | |||
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"The government is welcoming people's views on a vaccine and are currently holding an official consultation open until the 18th of September. If you wish to make your views known, whatever they may be, here is the link to the consultation. I'm sure this is an allowed link due to it being to the official government consultation site. https://consultations.dhsc.gov.uk/5f43b8aca0980b6fc0198f9f" Done  | |||
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"The government is welcoming people's views on a vaccine and are currently holding an official consultation open until the 18th of September. If you wish to make your views known, whatever they may be, here is the link to the consultation. I'm sure this is an allowed link due to it being to the official government consultation site. https://consultations.dhsc.gov.uk/5f43b8aca0980b6fc0198f9f Done "Did you read the document? | |||
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"The government is welcoming people's views on a vaccine and are currently holding an official consultation open until the 18th of September. If you wish to make your views known, whatever they may be, here is the link to the consultation. I'm sure this is an allowed link due to it being to the official government consultation site. https://consultations.dhsc.gov.uk/5f43b8aca0980b6fc0198f9f Done
Did you read the document?"Yes. Oddly though the document isn't included in the survey area. So someone could come to it blind and guess at what it's looking for in terms of response. | |||
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"The government is welcoming people's views on a vaccine and are currently holding an official consultation open until the 18th of September. If you wish to make your views known, whatever they may be, here is the link to the consultation. I'm sure this is an allowed link due to it being to the official government consultation site. https://consultations.dhsc.gov.uk/5f43b8aca0980b6fc0198f9f Done
Did you read the document?
Yes. Oddly though the document isn't included in the survey area. So someone could come to it blind and guess at what it's looking for in terms of response.
"Exactly. Thats my concern - I didnt even know about the document I posted until it was pointed out to me by a friend. As I said - I am not an anti-vaxxer, but the government document does contain some quite alarming statements that I think people ought to read before partaking in this type of consultation. | |||
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"The government is welcoming people's views on a vaccine and are currently holding an official consultation open until the 18th of September. If you wish to make your views known, whatever they may be, here is the link to the consultation. I'm sure this is an allowed link due to it being to the official government consultation site. https://consultations.dhsc.gov.uk/5f43b8aca0980b6fc0198f9f Done
Did you read the document?
Yes. Oddly though the document isn't included in the survey area. So someone could come to it blind and guess at what it's looking for in terms of response.
Exactly. Thats my concern - I didnt even know about the document I posted until it was pointed out to me by a friend. As I said - I am not an anti-vaxxer, but the government document does contain some quite alarming statements that I think people ought to read before partaking in this type of consultation. "Agreed. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 01/09/20 18:14:19]" Ive just taken part in the consultation. Its not really a consultation though, is it? Its a comment section at best. Absolute load of crap as far as Im concerned. | |||
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"Whats in the vaccine?. Would you know if it was put on here? Me neither.. If it's gone through the necessary testing etc then it will be the same as the other vaccines you and I and our kids were given.. Yes? Well! Im glad you said that!! https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/distributing-vaccines-and-treatments-for-covid-19-and-flu/consultation-document-changes-to-human-medicine-regulations-to-support-the-rollout-of-covid-19-vaccines Tbh i don't have the expertise in relation to speeding things up but that could be a could thing for other vaccines or drugs etc.. I think before it's released for general use it will have to be shown it has been through the necessary safeguards albeit a bit more sharpishly.." I'd love to know how its future effects on the brains and organs of an unborn child will and can be checked for safety "sharpishly" I'd also like data on the time scale of its immunity Good science is currently not being practiced wholeheartedly Data data data and more data with robust controls is required We dont have much We know little about the virus as it's natural path already been tampered with Maybe a lot of good or even educated guesses but from robust reliable consistent numerous data it's not | |||
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"The government is welcoming people's views on a vaccine and are currently holding an official consultation open until the 18th of September. If you wish to make your views known, whatever they may be, here is the link to the consultation. I'm sure this is an allowed link due to it being to the official government consultation site. https://consultations.dhsc.gov.uk/5f43b8aca0980b6fc0198f9f" It is always best to be sure before posting links. It isn't on the rules but but is on this thread as a yes https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/feedback/14562 | |||
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"It's good that this is out for public consultation. Thanks op "I disagree The last time a government "consulted" the public the UK left the EU with little hope of negotiating any kind of beneficial new agreement I think the government should consult a vast number of highly experienced medically scientifically and statistically trained individuals with a track record of rational thinking | |||
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"It's good that this is out for public consultation. Thanks op
I disagree
The last time a government "consulted" the public the UK left the EU with little hope of negotiating any kind of beneficial new agreement
I think the government should consult a vast number of highly experienced medically scientifically and statistically trained individuals with a track record of rational thinking
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" I'd love to know how its future effects on the brains and organs of an unborn child will and can be checked for safety "sharpishly" " Covid vaccines aren't being developed in isolation, from scratch. They can build on existing knowledge and models. It's fine for pregnant women to receive a flu vaccination, for example. | |||
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"Whats in the vaccine?. Would you know if it was put on here? Me neither.. If it's gone through the necessary testing etc then it will be the same as the other vaccines you and I and our kids were given.. Yes? Well! Im glad you said that!! https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/distributing-vaccines-and-treatments-for-covid-19-and-flu/consultation-document-changes-to-human-medicine-regulations-to-support-the-rollout-of-covid-19-vaccines Tbh i don't have the expertise in relation to speeding things up but that could be a could thing for other vaccines or drugs etc.. I think before it's released for general use it will have to be shown it has been through the necessary safeguards albeit a bit more sharpishly.. I'd love to know how its future effects on the brains and organs of an unborn child will and can be checked for safety "sharpishly" I'd also like data on the time scale of its immunity Good science is currently not being practiced wholeheartedly Data data data and more data with robust controls is required We dont have much We know little about the virus as it's natural path already been tampered with Maybe a lot of good or even educated guesses but from robust reliable consistent numerous data it's not " I've no idea.. Although I might have thought the eminent people doing the development etc may possibly have factored that in.. We are still learning so much.. | |||
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" I'd love to know how its future effects on the brains and organs of an unborn child will and can be checked for safety "sharpishly" Covid vaccines aren't being developed in isolation, from scratch. They can build on existing knowledge and models. It's fine for pregnant women to receive a flu vaccination, for example. " Are you sure not the research I heard | |||
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"Whats in the vaccine?." Bill Gates....? That's if you believe David Ike....you know. The guy who thinks he is Jesus and that Rothscild is a Lizard Alien who secretly rules the world....! | |||
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"It's good that this is out for public consultation. Thanks op
I disagree
The last time a government "consulted" the public the UK left the EU with little hope of negotiating any kind of beneficial new agreement
I think the government should consult a vast number of highly experienced medically scientifically and statistically trained individuals with a track record of rational thinking
"And they will be doing that already, however the point of this consultation is to seek a public consensus. | |||
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"It's good that this is out for public consultation. Thanks op
I disagree
The last time a government "consulted" the public the UK left the EU with little hope of negotiating any kind of beneficial new agreement
I think the government should consult a vast number of highly experienced medically scientifically and statistically trained individuals with a track record of rational thinking
And they will be doing that already, however the point of this consultation is to seek a public consensus. "You realise that's an oxymoron Public consensus Some public think its 5g So what if the majority say fuck it buy tin foil and stop all other precautions | |||
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"It's good that this is out for public consultation. Thanks op
I disagree
The last time a government "consulted" the public the UK left the EU with little hope of negotiating any kind of beneficial new agreement
I think the government should consult a vast number of highly experienced medically scientifically and statistically trained individuals with a track record of rational thinking
And they will be doing that already, however the point of this consultation is to seek a public consensus.
You realise that's an oxymoron
Public consensus
Some public think its 5g
So what if the majority say fuck it buy tin foil and stop all other precautions"I'm sure that they would potentially be helped, should they receive inaccurate information, for example, that indicates a level of ignorance amongst the public. Likewise, they may get to appreciate something that they wouldn't have, due to being involved in the development, plans etc. I'm guessing that it is primarily done to support their incisive grasp of the public mindset. They will also aim to balance, for the diverse population that we have. There won't be any full agreement on all points, from all of the population, so I'm sure they won't be expecting that. | |||
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"It's good that this is out for public consultation. Thanks op
I disagree
The last time a government "consulted" the public the UK left the EU with little hope of negotiating any kind of beneficial new agreement
I think the government should consult a vast number of highly experienced medically scientifically and statistically trained individuals with a track record of rational thinking
And they will be doing that already, however the point of this consultation is to seek a public consensus.
You realise that's an oxymoron
Public consensus
Some public think its 5g
So what if the majority say fuck it buy tin foil and stop all other precautions"Yup. That's the risk lol. | |||
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"I suspect this wasn't really intended for general consumption." A 'Public Consultation' isn't 'Public Consumption'? hahahaha | |||
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"I suspect this wasn't really intended for general consumption. A 'Public Consultation' isn't 'Public Consumption'? hahahaha " The majority of the public won't fill it in unless there are options to choose. | |||
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"I suspect this wasn't really intended for general consumption. A 'Public Consultation' isn't 'Public Consumption'? hahahaha The majority of the public won't fill it in unless there are options to choose." No more than 2 at that | |||
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"It's good that this is out for public consultation. Thanks op
I disagree
The last time a government "consulted" the public the UK left the EU with little hope of negotiating any kind of beneficial new agreement
I think the government should consult a vast number of highly experienced medically scientifically and statistically trained individuals with a track record of rational thinking
And they will be doing that already, however the point of this consultation is to seek a public consensus.
You realise that's an oxymoron
Public consensus
Some public think its 5g
So what if the majority say fuck it buy tin foil and stop all other precautions
I'm sure that they would potentially be helped, should they receive inaccurate information, for example, that indicates a level of ignorance amongst the public. Likewise, they may get to appreciate something that they wouldn't have, due to being involved in the development, plans etc.
I'm guessing that it is primarily done to support their incisive grasp of the public mindset. They will also aim to balance, for the diverse population that we have. There won't be any full agreement on all points, from all of the population, so I'm sure they won't be expecting that. "I'll be candid There honestly is zero need for any so called consultation It's a sham a show propaganda We all must absolutely know that the truest public consultation does not come from a questionnaire rather it comes directly from social media posts the data regarding the population zeitgeist is vast from the collective posts across all media inc this one The algorithms formulated by Facebook and co can harvest this data and give a frighteningly accurate insight But then again the public show how savvy they are I see no one in the virus forums have even suggested the virus is a sham and we should get back to normal I see no one has fallen for the "its Bill Gates mind control" Individuals smart Populations not so | |||
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"The government are proven liars, how is it you folk believe them?." Because the other alternatives tend to involve tin foil and prescription medication...  | |||
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"Even though it is a a official government consultation, I got flagged for or going against Facebook community standards with a link to the consultation. Its feels (to me) almost like they don't actually want people's opinions." That sounds like an automated Facebook policy going a bit awry. The government don't control that. | |||
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