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"This weekend I went into my local big shopping centre and apart from most people wearing masks ( although only a few wearing them correctly) ... and arrows on the floor that people are ignoring... it seemed like it used to be. Then I went to the cinema.. all seemed great...well organised... and really easy.... till we got to our seats... when we picked them there was a gap between each row and they had staggered the seating... However we got our seats and as there was someone sat directly behind us... and in front of us I actually double checked. And no. We were in the right ones.. it was just others moving to get a more central seat. And not a mask in sight.... now maybe I'm mistaken but I was sure you were supposed to wear them even when sat In the auditorium except when eating and drinking x many didnt wear them to walk out either. " Interesting as I have been thinking of going to cinema again. I feel you should of complained the management should remove poeple not in masks and definately you should be made to sit in the seat you have been given | |||
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"This weekend I went into my local big shopping centre and apart from most people wearing masks ( although only a few wearing them correctly) ... and arrows on the floor that people are ignoring... it seemed like it used to be. Then I went to the cinema.. all seemed great...well organised... and really easy.... till we got to our seats... when we picked them there was a gap between each row and they had staggered the seating... However we got our seats and as there was someone sat directly behind us... and in front of us I actually double checked. And no. We were in the right ones.. it was just others moving to get a more central seat. And not a mask in sight.... now maybe I'm mistaken but I was sure you were supposed to wear them even when sat In the auditorium except when eating and drinking x many didnt wear them to walk out either. Interesting as I have been thinking of going to cinema again. I feel you should of complained the management should remove poeple not in masks and definately you should be made to sit in the seat you have been given" Given that there is no strong evidence either way on face coverings then it makes no difference. If you think you are at risk of dying from covid then don't go to the cinema. | |||
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"Not sure why it was like that Cali. Ours are super organised with people sat miles ( not literally obviously ) from each other. Ive been 3 times since the opened. The rules at mine is that you wear your mask until you are in your seat, then you can remove it." the rules are actually that you should wear one unless eating or drinking. There was a big warning on the screen too.. And I am not fussed enough to complain. As personally not to worried about catching it myself but was the first time my disabled daughter had been out.. so once everyone was seated we just moved nearer the front . We had paid for the 2nd row from the back as she doesnt like being too close. To be fair was only those on the two rows above and below us not sitting in their allotted seats. But what I'm amazed at was how people stick to the rules till not being watched... | |||
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"This weekend I went into my local big shopping centre and apart from most people wearing masks ( although only a few wearing them correctly) ... and arrows on the floor that people are ignoring... it seemed like it used to be. Then I went to the cinema.. all seemed great...well organised... and really easy.... till we got to our seats... when we picked them there was a gap between each row and they had staggered the seating... However we got our seats and as there was someone sat directly behind us... and in front of us I actually double checked. And no. We were in the right ones.. it was just others moving to get a more central seat. And not a mask in sight.... now maybe I'm mistaken but I was sure you were supposed to wear them even when sat In the auditorium except when eating and drinking x many didnt wear them to walk out either. Interesting as I have been thinking of going to cinema again. I feel you should of complained the management should remove poeple not in masks and definately you should be made to sit in the seat you have been given Given that there is no strong evidence either way on face coverings then it makes no difference. If you think you are at risk of dying from covid then don't go to the cinema." Why should she suffer through others breaking the rules? | |||
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" Given that there is no strong evidence either way on face coverings then it makes no difference. If you think you are at risk of dying from covid then don't go to the cinema." It's always the smart-arse answer saying 'well don't do it then'. But the smarter answer is that she (we) should all be able to do it, and that if the current rules are 'wear a face covering' then people should be wearing them. | |||
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" Given that there is no strong evidence either way on face coverings then it makes no difference. If you think you are at risk of dying from covid then don't go to the cinema. " No! If you can't abide by the rules of the cinema, don't go to the cinema! Simples! | |||
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" Given that there is no strong evidence either way on face coverings then it makes no difference. If you think you are at risk of dying from covid then don't go to the cinema." If I thought like that I wouldn't be going anywhere. Apparbelty I am at risk of being seriously ill with it.. although had it already and still here.. but with a BMI of over 47 and having an overactive immune system.. then on paper I am higher risk according to new research.. My daughter who went with me ( first time she has done anything nice for the entire lockdown) has downs syndrome and luckily apart from her weight doesnt have any health issues.. but does have a compromised immune system. But her mental health has been suffering not going out | |||
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"One of the problems with cinemas is that while you are eating - and most people can make popcorn last the whole show lol - you don't have to wear a mask. " this was actually what we said. I didnt feel it needed me to run off and go get someone but it did show that so many dont comply. | |||
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"This weekend I went into my local big shopping centre and apart from most people wearing masks ( although only a few wearing them correctly) ... and arrows on the floor that people are ignoring... it seemed like it used to be. Then I went to the cinema.. all seemed great...well organised... and really easy.... till we got to our seats... when we picked them there was a gap between each row and they had staggered the seating... However we got our seats and as there was someone sat directly behind us... and in front of us I actually double checked. And no. We were in the right ones.. it was just others moving to get a more central seat. And not a mask in sight.... now maybe I'm mistaken but I was sure you were supposed to wear them even when sat In the auditorium except when eating and drinking x many didnt wear them to walk out either. Interesting as I have been thinking of going to cinema again. I feel you should of complained the management should remove poeple not in masks and definately you should be made to sit in the seat you have been given Given that there is no strong evidence either way on face coverings then it makes no difference. If you think you are at risk of dying from covid then don't go to the cinema." Any current deficit of something is not proof that it doesn't exist. Some evidence shows it may help protect others if the wearer is infectuous. Rules in the UK are clear and for a purpose. Very simple to follow and understand | |||
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" Given that there is no strong evidence either way on face coverings then it makes no difference. If you think you are at risk of dying from covid then don't go to the cinema. If I thought like that I wouldn't be going anywhere. Apparbelty I am at risk of being seriously ill with it.. although had it already and still here.. but with a BMI of over 47 and having an overactive immune system.. then on paper I am higher risk according to new research.. My daughter who went with me ( first time she has done anything nice for the entire lockdown) has downs syndrome and luckily apart from her weight doesnt have any health issues.. but does have a compromised immune system. But her mental health has been suffering not going out " Hope she had a nice time. I think it's really shit that people moved near you. They broke the rules. I think eating and drinking should be banned in cinemas anyway. Too noisy!! Then no excuse to remove their mask. | |||
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"This weekend I went into my local big shopping centre and apart from most people wearing masks ( although only a few wearing them correctly) ... and arrows on the floor that people are ignoring... it seemed like it used to be. Then I went to the cinema.. all seemed great...well organised... and really easy.... till we got to our seats... when we picked them there was a gap between each row and they had staggered the seating... However we got our seats and as there was someone sat directly behind us... and in front of us I actually double checked. And no. We were in the right ones.. it was just others moving to get a more central seat. And not a mask in sight.... now maybe I'm mistaken but I was sure you were supposed to wear them even when sat In the auditorium except when eating and drinking x many didnt wear them to walk out either. Interesting as I have been thinking of going to cinema again. I feel you should of complained the management should remove poeple not in masks and definately you should be made to sit in the seat you have been given Given that there is no strong evidence either way on face coverings then it makes no difference. If you think you are at risk of dying from covid then don't go to the cinema. Why should she suffer through others breaking the rules?" My thoughts exactly, she went because she thought rules were in place and people would respect others, should be the people not sitting by in their correct seat or not wearing a mask that should be told to leave or blocked from booking again, gets my back up that’s its always the people doing the right thing that a frowned upon or expected to do without so the couldn’t give a toss people win, just about sums the people of this country up, I’m alright Jack | |||
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" Given that there is no strong evidence either way on face coverings then it makes no difference. If you think you are at risk of dying from covid then don't go to the cinema. It's always the smart-arse answer saying 'well don't do it then'. But the smarter answer is that she (we) should all be able to do it, and that if the current rules are 'wear a face covering' then people should be wearing them. " unless they are exempt of course. | |||
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" Given that there is no strong evidence either way on face coverings then it makes no difference. If you think you are at risk of dying from covid then don't go to the cinema. It's always the smart-arse answer saying 'well don't do it then'. But the smarter answer is that she (we) should all be able to do it, and that if the current rules are 'wear a face covering' then people should be wearing them. unless they are exempt of course. " Its amazing the number of Brits exempt from mask wearing, compared to other nations. In China, Italy, Spain etc, far fewer people are not wearing them. Perhaps that says something about the health of the UK population? Or does it say something about the altruism of the inhabitants of other nations? | |||
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" Given that there is no strong evidence either way on face coverings then it makes no difference. If you think you are at risk of dying from covid then don't go to the cinema. It's always the smart-arse answer saying 'well don't do it then'. But the smarter answer is that she (we) should all be able to do it, and that if the current rules are 'wear a face covering' then people should be wearing them. unless they are exempt of course. " Well of course. | |||
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" Given that there is no strong evidence either way on face coverings then it makes no difference. If you think you are at risk of dying from covid then don't go to the cinema. No! If you can't abide by the rules of the cinema, don't go to the cinema! Simples! " Exactly, kind of like saying... So they had a shit on the floor.... But if you don't like it... Don't go to the cinema... Sometimes for communities to work, you have to fool a few very very very very very very simple rules | |||
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"Does he have to tell people why he doesn't wear one though? He might not want to say why he doesn't. " Current rules say that No he doesn't have to say. Not even the Police can make you say why. But any premises owner or manager can refuse you admission if you refuse to wear one. | |||
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"Does he have to tell people why he doesn't wear one though? He might not want to say why he doesn't. Current rules say that No he doesn't have to say. Not even the Police can make you say why. But any premises owner or manager can refuse you admission if you refuse to wear one. " I believe then that the owner or manager can be sued for discrimination. Being excempt from wearing a mask for what ever reason is classed as a disability. I dont know the ins and outs of the law and the sections of the discrimination act but i seen a guy on social network refused entry into a store by a manager, he told the guy to go look at section somthing somthing of the discrimination act and he will be back in 20 mins and if he is refused entry again that he (the manager will be hearing from his solicitor). 20 mins later he came back and said im going in now ok, the manager just nodded his head. I guess its a case of knowing your rights and stand with authority and if you are clued up on the law then you can't really be refused entry from anywhere without good reason and not wearing a mask is not a good enough reason if that person says they are excempt. And no they dont need to prove they are except or tell anyway way they are excempt under the data protection act. | |||
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"Does he have to tell people why he doesn't wear one though? He might not want to say why he doesn't. Current rules say that No he doesn't have to say. Not even the Police can make you say why. But any premises owner or manager can refuse you admission if you refuse to wear one. I believe then that the owner or manager can be sued for discrimination. Being excempt from wearing a mask for what ever reason is classed as a disability. I dont know the ins and outs of the law and the sections of the discrimination act but i seen a guy on social network refused entry into a store by a manager, he told the guy to go look at section somthing somthing of the discrimination act and he will be back in 20 mins and if he is refused entry again that he (the manager will be hearing from his solicitor). 20 mins later he came back and said im going in now ok, the manager just nodded his head. I guess its a case of knowing your rights and stand with authority and if you are clued up on the law then you can't really be refused entry from anywhere without good reason and not wearing a mask is not a good enough reason if that person says they are excempt. And no they dont need to prove they are except or tell anyway way they are excempt under the data protection act. " Knowing your rights is one thing. Going out of your way to prove you have those rights is something else. Doing what's right seems beyond one or two people. I'd rather live in a society where people did the right thing. | |||
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""And no they dont have to tell anyone why they are excempt because of the data protection act" Had to fix my last sentence." The final sentence of nonsense in a post that is factually completely incorrect. The Data Protection Act is null and void, superceded by the GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation, 2018) which is EU wide. The Equality Act 2010 defines in law protected characteristics and defines disability for the purposes of the Act. Read it and you will understand why your earlier post is nonsense. Saying you have a touch of asthma does mean in law that you have a disability. | |||
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" I believe then that the owner or manager can be sued for discrimination. Being excempt from wearing a mask for what ever reason is classed as a disability. " No it's not. And no they can't be sued unless the disability is a protected one. | |||
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""And no they dont have to tell anyone why they are excempt because of the data protection act" Had to fix my last sentence. The final sentence of nonsense in a post that is factually completely incorrect. The Data Protection Act is null and void, superceded by the GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation, 2018) which is EU wide. The Equality Act 2010 defines in law protected characteristics and defines disability for the purposes of the Act. Read it and you will understand why your earlier post is nonsense. Saying you have a touch of asthma does mean in law that you have a disability. " Hey I'm just saying what i seen. Guy was refused entry becsuse of no mask, guy said he was excempt but still refused entry. Guy then tells manager he will be back in 20 in that time he told him to look up certain sections of the discrimination act. Guy comes back 20 mins later and is allowed in no more questions asked. So there must be somthing in it as the manager just caved after being very adament the guy without mask was not getting in. As for the data information act, again i know nothing of the law but I'm pretty certain that people don't need to disclose to a manager or even police why they are excempt. If im wrong then fine but I'm pretty certain thats the case. | |||
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" Given that there is no strong evidence either way on face coverings then it makes no difference. If you think you are at risk of dying from covid then don't go to the cinema. It's always the smart-arse answer saying 'well don't do it then'. But the smarter answer is that she (we) should all be able to do it, and that if the current rules are 'wear a face covering' then people should be wearing them. unless they are exempt of course. Its amazing the number of Brits exempt from mask wearing, compared to other nations. In China, Italy, Spain etc, far fewer people are not wearing them. Perhaps that says something about the health of the UK population? Or does it say something about the altruism of the inhabitants of other nations? " while in Italy I saw no adults not wearing them where they are mandatory.... in fact only people I saw not wearing them was kids in pushchair... even little old ladies and men. | |||
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""And no they dont have to tell anyone why they are excempt because of the data protection act" Had to fix my last sentence. The final sentence of nonsense in a post that is factually completely incorrect. The Data Protection Act is null and void, superceded by the GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation, 2018) which is EU wide. The Equality Act 2010 defines in law protected characteristics and defines disability for the purposes of the Act. Read it and you will understand why your earlier post is nonsense. Saying you have a touch of asthma does mean in law that you have a disability. Hey I'm just saying what i seen. Guy was refused entry becsuse of no mask, guy said he was excempt but still refused entry. Guy then tells manager he will be back in 20 in that time he told him to look up certain sections of the discrimination act. Guy comes back 20 mins later and is allowed in no more questions asked. So there must be somthing in it as the manager just caved after being very adament the guy without mask was not getting in. As for the data information act, again i know nothing of the law but I'm pretty certain that people don't need to disclose to a manager or even police why they are excempt. If im wrong then fine but I'm pretty certain thats the case. " The wearing of face coverings in indoor public places is written into the Coronavirus Act 2020. It's a Statutory instrument aka it's law, so the enforcers of the law (PC Plod, et.al.) are responsible for enforcement. Not individual shop managers or assistants. They can choose to report to the Police, like they can with shoplifting or vandalism. They can't take the law into their own hands, just like they can't with shoplifting or vandalism. The Police are, for the most part, not enforcing the face coverings bit of the Coronavirus Act and so shops are letting people get away with it. The shop manager's choice was to let him in or call the Police. | |||
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"This weekend I went into my local big shopping centre and apart from most people wearing masks ( although only a few wearing them correctly) ... and arrows on the floor that people are ignoring... it seemed like it used to be. Then I went to the cinema.. all seemed great...well organised... and really easy.... till we got to our seats... when we picked them there was a gap between each row and they had staggered the seating... However we got our seats and as there was someone sat directly behind us... and in front of us I actually double checked. And no. We were in the right ones.. it was just others moving to get a more central seat. And not a mask in sight.... now maybe I'm mistaken but I was sure you were supposed to wear them even when sat In the auditorium except when eating and drinking x many didnt wear them to walk out either. Interesting as I have been thinking of going to cinema again. I feel you should of complained the management should remove poeple not in masks and definately you should be made to sit in the seat you have been given Given that there is no strong evidence either way on face coverings then it makes no difference. If you think you are at risk of dying from covid then don't go to the cinema. Why should she suffer through others breaking the rules? My thoughts exactly, she went because she thought rules were in place and people would respect others, should be the people not sitting by in their correct seat or not wearing a mask that should be told to leave or blocked from booking again, gets my back up that’s its always the people doing the right thing that a frowned upon or expected to do without so the couldn’t give a toss people win, just about sums the people of this country up, I’m alright Jack " | |||
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""And no they dont have to tell anyone why they are excempt because of the data protection act" Had to fix my last sentence. The final sentence of nonsense in a post that is factually completely incorrect. The Data Protection Act is null and void, superceded by the GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation, 2018) which is EU wide. The Equality Act 2010 defines in law protected characteristics and defines disability for the purposes of the Act. Read it and you will understand why your earlier post is nonsense. Saying you have a touch of asthma does mean in law that you have a disability. Hey I'm just saying what i seen. Guy was refused entry becsuse of no mask, guy said he was excempt but still refused entry. Guy then tells manager he will be back in 20 in that time he told him to look up certain sections of the discrimination act. Guy comes back 20 mins later and is allowed in no more questions asked. So there must be somthing in it as the manager just caved after being very adament the guy without mask was not getting in. As for the data information act, again i know nothing of the law but I'm pretty certain that people don't need to disclose to a manager or even police why they are excempt. If im wrong then fine but I'm pretty certain thats the case. The wearing of face coverings in indoor public places is written into the Coronavirus Act 2020. It's a Statutory instrument aka it's law, so the enforcers of the law (PC Plod, et.al.) are responsible for enforcement. Not individual shop managers or assistants. They can choose to report to the Police, like they can with shoplifting or vandalism. They can't take the law into their own hands, just like they can't with shoplifting or vandalism. The Police are, for the most part, not enforcing the face coverings bit of the Coronavirus Act and so shops are letting people get away with it. The shop manager's choice was to let him in or call the Police. " A shop can refuse entry to anyone without giving a reason. | |||
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"This weekend I went into my local big shopping centre and apart from most people wearing masks ( although only a few wearing them correctly) ... and arrows on the floor that people are ignoring... it seemed like it used to be. Then I went to the cinema.. all seemed great...well organised... and really easy.... till we got to our seats... when we picked them there was a gap between each row and they had staggered the seating... However we got our seats and as there was someone sat directly behind us... and in front of us I actually double checked. And no. We were in the right ones.. it was just others moving to get a more central seat. And not a mask in sight.... now maybe I'm mistaken but I was sure you were supposed to wear them even when sat In the auditorium except when eating and drinking x many didnt wear them to walk out either. " I love the cinema but am making a point not to go due to the recycled air everyone breathes. Same applies to theatres. | |||
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"Does he have to tell people why he doesn't wear one though? He might not want to say why he doesn't. " Legally, no he doesn't. | |||
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