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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Well after watching a programme the other night about the 2nd wave of coronavirus around Christmas ! Their was a lot of if’s and but’s ! What are your thoughts on this and how it may affect you ?

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By *lbinoGorillaMan
over a year ago

Redditch

It'll probably mean that I spend Christmas Day on my own

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

Club Meets Only

If its going to happen it will. There's been lots of talk of a second wave in the winter.

We just have to get on with things

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

There are a lot of ifs and buts because an event of this magnitude, being studied in this level of detail, is brand new. We just don't know.

We need to knuckle down, reduce transmission, support each other from a safe distance, so we can get our lives back sooner rather than later.

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By *icearmsMan
over a year ago

KIDLINGTON

Personally a second wave will hit, but we've now got so much more in place I terms of medical equipment we didn't have in the first wave.

It's going to be with us forever now like flu etc. And we have to get used to it and just be a little sensible. We won't see another lock down as the economy wouldn't survive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm currently in 14 day quarantine because I visited a covid country.

Hoping to do the same again in the winter but hopefully by then the 14 day quarantine will be abandoned because the UK government will realise we have the same level of infections here as the country I want to visit.

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By *aulupforitMan
over a year ago

Corbridge

Why do you think some shops have xmas stuff in already

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I shall carry on as I am doing now.

I avoid shops, and the muggles that are in them, I do as much online as humanly possible. I work at home. I don’t use public transport. I keep all but the closest family at arms length.

IF it hits, I shall bunker in and hide away from it all much the same as the previous months.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I shall carry on as I am doing now.

I avoid shops, and the muggles that are in them, I do as much online as humanly possible. I work at home. I don’t use public transport. I keep all but the closest family at arms length.

IF it hits, I shall bunker in and hide away from it all much the same as the previous months. "

Ditto.

It's beginning to wear me down.

But I'd rather be unhappy than inadvertently hurt or kill someone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I shall carry on as I am doing now.

I avoid shops, and the muggles that are in them, I do as much online as humanly possible. I work at home. I don’t use public transport. I keep all but the closest family at arms length.

IF it hits, I shall bunker in and hide away from it all much the same as the previous months.

Ditto.

It's beginning to wear me down.

But I'd rather be unhappy than inadvertently hurt or kill someone."

That’s about how I feel, except that being a fat lump that I am, it’s more likely to kill me off. I think I’ll do all I can to avoid it.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

I'm taking all these second wave predictions with a bucket of salt. .we were supposed to have one a couple of weeks ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Convenient that it's around Christmas. Not a shock headline grabber at all.......

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It'll probably mean that I spend Christmas Day on my own

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That doesn’t sound good

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If its going to happen it will. There's been lots of talk of a second wave in the winter.

We just have to get on with things"
My thoughts exactly x

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By *oxyVikingCouple
over a year ago

East Anglia

I was planning to go home to Sweden this Xmas. Looks like I won’t be now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It'll probably mean that I spend Christmas Day on my own

That doesn’t sound good

See

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By *onestjohn1962Man
over a year ago

Sheffield

I went to a funeral yesterday. Well I stood in a crowd outside the church watching the webcast on my phone. There were only 20 people allowed in. It was beyond sad.

And then we went to the hired room at the pub and were packed in like sardines. So of course I could not stay. That was even more sad.

The NHS did not get over run, the Nightingales were never used. We have to get on with life.

Stay sensible, wash your hands, wear a mask.

But most of all carry on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was planning to go home to Sweden this Xmas. Looks like I won’t be now

See

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I was planning to go home to Sweden this Xmas. Looks like I won’t be now

I hear you. I don't think I'll see my family again until there's a vaccine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My hubby and I were planning on spending Christmas just the two of us anyway... but after this year it’s going to be really hard not to spend it with my family like we usually do.

I’ve only seen my grandparents twice this year, and I usually see them once a week.

I’m starting to really miss normality.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I went to a funeral yesterday. Well I stood in a crowd outside the church watching the webcast on my phone. There were only 20 people allowed in. It was beyond sad.

And then we went to the hired room at the pub and were packed in like sardines. So of course I could not stay. That was even more sad.

The NHS did not get over run, the Nightingales were never used. We have to get on with life.

Stay sensible, wash your hands, wear a mask.

But most of all carry on.

The hospitals didn't get overrun because we did what we had to and it wasn't winter.

I do community work. Have had to be there for improvised grief counselling for people who've lost multiple friends and relatives to Covid but haven't been able to go to funerals because of increased risk to themselves. Watched conditions deteriorate because of the effects of lockdown, and because of care not available. Have begged high risk people to stay inside. Have had to withdraw support because of local restrictions. Have held my breath as people have had to do things we'd never let them do under normal circumstances.

I'm watching my colleagues struggle under the increased strain of it.

This winter may break us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Virus forum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Virus forum.

This also. They need an unnecessary scary panic forum too....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Virus forum.

This also. They need an unnecessary scary panic forum too....

We could really do with a new emoji for it all.

(Aggggwereallgonnadieface)

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By *lbinoGorillaMan
over a year ago

Redditch

"It'll probably mean that I spend Christmas Day on my own

That doesn’t sound good

Maybe, maybe not. We'll see when it finally happens.

Besides, I live ony own anyway and Christmas is just another day when all's said and done

But I appreciate the concern

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Virus forum.

This also. They need an unnecessary scary panic forum too....

We could really do with a new emoji for it all.

(Aggggwereallgonnadieface)"

True dat doh....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My first thought on this is this should be in the virus forum, my second on this is this should be in the virus forum, this is a corona free zone, we like to immerse ourselves in snog, marry, avoid threads here in The Lounge, you know the real big issues of the day.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

All anyone who's not a mod can do is report it to ask them to move it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All anyone who's not a mod can do is report it to ask them to move it."

Ta daaaa!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

All anyone who's not a mod can do is report it to ask them to move it.

Ta daaaa!

Indeed. I reported it when I saw it in the lounge

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Sometimes mods see it and move it anyway

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

There are, understandably, a lot of 'possiblys' embedded in the second wave narrative, which often seem to be disregarded.

The truth is, nobody seems to know for certain, but historically there have been second waves and it'd be really unwise to discount them just because of a 'possibly'.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

That would really depend on the ability of the population to use common sense to avoid transmission

I guess we'll have a second wave then

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"There are, understandably, a lot of 'possiblys' embedded in the second wave narrative, which often seem to be disregarded.

The truth is, nobody seems to know for certain, but historically there have been second waves and it'd be really unwise to discount them just because of a 'possibly'."

I think it's worth noting that at high levels of expertise, noting the uncertainty and that there are lots of variables, is a sign of credibility. "This is my honest assessment of the data, which isn't straightforward and I'm not going to sugarcoat for popularity"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That would really depend on the ability of the population to use common sense to avoid transmission

I guess we'll have a second wave then

What is this 'common sense' people keep speaking of? Is it a conspiracy theory like the world being round? Never heard of it.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

That would really depend on the ability of the population to use common sense to avoid transmission

I guess we'll have a second wave then

What is this 'common sense' people keep speaking of? Is it a conspiracy theory like the world being round? Never heard of it.

I think it means "pander to people, throw them to the wolves, then blame them when it all goes tits up"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mystic Meg Fauci says second wave to be released in the Autumn.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Mystic Meg Fauci says second wave to be released in the Autumn."

What does an American scientist have to do with anything? And presumably he'd say fall, not autumn?

Although. Mysticism. Science. Transmission occurs overwhelmingly indoors. In colder months being outside is harder to do. In the autumn schools return and thus contacts increase (apparently a university in Alabama recently had more cases than Canada). Universities in some cases too, bringing people in from all sorts of different places.

Huh. It's almost like there's a reason why they say stuff. Magic? Nah.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Btw, Fauci did an excellent interview on the podcast This Week in Virology, episode 641.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Mystic Meg Fauci says second wave to be released in the Autumn.

What does an American scientist have to do with anything? And presumably he'd say fall, not autumn?."

What does Fauci have to do with it? He's the China virus medical expert for the USA government.

Yes he said fall.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I was planning to go home to Sweden this Xmas. Looks like I won’t be now

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hasn’t Sweden handled this well ?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Mystic Meg Fauci says second wave to be released in the Autumn.

What does an American scientist have to do with anything? And presumably he'd say fall, not autumn?.

What does Fauci have to do with it? He's the China virus medical expert for the USA government.

Yes he said fall."

You mean that he's the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease?

Yes, he's become the de facto figurehead of the public health fight in the US.

Have you noticed we're not in the US? That the figures look somewhat different here? That the shit show here looks like a paradise, a dream, a miracle compared to the clusterfuck of fuckery over there?

That maybe we should listen to people talking about our own country when making predictions?

Or is most of the stuff you're reading American so you just pretend it applies here?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

All anyone who's not a mod can do is report it to ask them to move it.

Ta daaaa!

Indeed. I reported it when I saw it in the lounge

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Well done

clap clap clap

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's going to depend on how good our government manages things.

Having lost the confidence and trust of the public, from the Cummings dangerous revelations and its not recovering, I don't think they will ever get it back. That's going to make things harder, which doesn't bode well with difficult times ahead and leadership that's probably going to continue to be as bad as it has been all along.

There seems a commitment to keeping society open now, for the sake of businesses. As people are going to continue to be in higher risk environments, coupled with seasonal changes that will make things harder, I do see things taking a longer time to get the UK on to similar levels as our neighbours. Difficult winter ahead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Mystic Meg Fauci says second wave to be released in the Autumn.

What does an American scientist have to do with anything? And presumably he'd say fall, not autumn?.

What does Fauci have to do with it? He's the China virus medical expert for the USA government.

Yes he said fall.

You mean that he's the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease?

Yes, he's become the de facto figurehead of the public health fight in the US.

That maybe we should listen to people talking about our own country when making predictions?

Or is most of the stuff you're reading American so you just pretend it applies here?"

A lot of anger issues

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings

Sorry cold not find a wave

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Mystic Meg Fauci says second wave to be released in the Autumn.

What does an American scientist have to do with anything? And presumably he'd say fall, not autumn?.

What does Fauci have to do with it? He's the China virus medical expert for the USA government.

Yes he said fall.

You mean that he's the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease?

Yes, he's become the de facto figurehead of the public health fight in the US.

That maybe we should listen to people talking about our own country when making predictions?

Or is most of the stuff you're reading American so you just pretend it applies here?

A lot of anger issues "

Ooh. Accusing a woman of being irrational. Edgy and science based

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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we are definitely missing a few emojis

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By *lan157Man
over a year ago

a village near Haywards Heath in East Sussex

"Why do you think some shops have xmas stuff in already

because they want us to eat ridiculous amounts of chocolate and sweets and create mountains of single use plastic boxes

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

The press keep reporting negative things and doom and gloom as that is what sells they know we will lap up the negative and talk about it for weeks while positive news is passed over very quickly as it doesn t sell. If there is a second wave think it may be localised spikes as opposed to a full country emergency. But here in wales i think even if things all went back to normal tomorrow the powers that be in cardiff will still try keep us in lock down. Think it may be time as some say to protect the vulnerable and the rest of us just get on with it .

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"Well after watching a programme the other night about the 2nd wave of coronavirus around Christmas ! Their was a lot of if’s and but’s ! What are your thoughts on this and how it may affect you ?"
Problaby will happen because people will act like idiots because it is Christmas and do the same at new year

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Project fear.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"Why do you think some shops have xmas stuff in already

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because its almost September and they always do

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By *om girlCouple (FF)
over a year ago

South Yorkshire

Please people this may offend a few but start to use your brains

The second wave will come after xmas or when the flu usually kills people

People are like sheep and never question what they being told and scare people into change history does the same thing over and over...

Well why should we wait till winter for second wave when according to the government more people getting infected

Surly more infected means more death

But in the last 7 days only 125 people died

Less than in previous years

So unless you cant see it something doesnt add up

Flu usually kills loads of people in winter and thats why ul see a second wave then

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By *lamourpussyCouple
over a year ago

Cirencester

Judging by the latest results the second wave may well be on its way well before Christmas. Sadly too many people are ignoring government guidelines for anything to be effective. Fortunately at the moment the majority of cases seem to be in the under 40s and so death rates are low but as the kids go back to school and the weather deteriorates and people spend more time together indoors things may change drastically.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Am thinking that as long as the old and those with underlying health problems isolate or take precautions then things will be fine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am thinking that as long as the old and those with underlying health problems isolate or take precautions then things will be fine "

They will need to be locked up in isolation camps away from their families who may infect them. No visitors.

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By *ancs_tgirl_38TV/TS
over a year ago

Blackpool

Don't expect the second wave fearmongering to stop just yet, Jones n Jarvis are just a little bit to short still for a Martha's Vineyard retirement home

££££££££ follow the money

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Am thinking that as long as the old and those with underlying health problems isolate or take precautions then things will be fine "

For the purposes of this virus old is 55/60 and over I have been advised. Do you know what percentage of the work force, including many key workers, that would remove from the population? Excellent idea you may say, jobs for youngsters but it's still removing a big section of spending from the economy. It will also take a lot of child care providers out of the picture, voluntary workers and the National Trust along with crimplene slacks manufacturers would go bust.

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By *andR510Couple
over a year ago

St Neots/Wisbech

"Please people this may offend a few but start to use your brains

The second wave will come after xmas or when the flu usually kills people

People are like sheep and never question what they being told and scare people into change history does the same thing over and over...

Well why should we wait till winter for second wave when according to the government more people getting infected

Surly more infected means more death

But in the last 7 days only 125 people died

Less than in previous years

So unless you cant see it something doesnt add up

Flu usually kills loads of people in winter and thats why ul see a second wave then

Flu will kill less because those who would usually be vulnerable have already lost their lives.

The 2nd wave scare has been coming for the last 5 months, just more scare tactics and fearmongering.

As you say, numbers are down massively and recovery rates are well up, but there's still people who believe we are in imminent danger of dying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I shall carry on as I am doing now.

I avoid shops, and the muggles that are in them, I do as much online as humanly possible. I work at home. I don’t use public transport. I keep all but the closest family at arms length.

IF it hits, I shall bunker in and hide away from it all much the same as the previous months. "
Muggles? Seriously...head out of a**e as some of us work in shops and some of us cannot work from home. but well done for working at home and bunkering down...one less Covid police on the streets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I shall carry on as I am doing now.

I avoid shops, and the muggles that are in them, I do as much online as humanly possible. I work at home. I don’t use public transport. I keep all but the closest family at arms length.

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By *amish SMan
over a year ago

Eastleigh

"Please people this may offend a few but start to use your brains

The second wave will come after xmas or when the flu usually kills people

People are like sheep and never question what they being told and scare people into change history does the same thing over and over...

Well why should we wait till winter for second wave when according to the government more people getting infected

Surly more infected means more death

But in the last 7 days only 125 people died

Less than in previous years

So unless you cant see it something doesnt add up

Flu usually kills loads of people in winter and thats why ul see a second wave then

Flu will kill less because those who would usually be vulnerable have already lost their lives.

The 2nd wave scare has been coming for the last 5 months, just more scare tactics and fearmongering.

As you say, numbers are down massively and recovery rates are well up, but there's still people who believe we are in imminent danger of dying "

Flu could easily kill more, there are more people about that have a lower immunity to it. Yes, flu will take out the old who have other conditions, but past flu epidemics took out many youngsters who were born post last outbreaks, if you have survived the last outbreak, you are more likely to survive the next. Make no mistake, each winter the NHS holds it breath and hopes for the best regarding the flu.

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