FabSwingers.com forum: It’s a plandemic discuss

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Simple as that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hopefully a mod will come along and close this thread down.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Why ? It’s a simple discussion are people not allowed different opinions?

I would have thought a site like this embraces alternative views

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

What is a plandemic ?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It was recognised as a pandemic by the WHO several months ago. See their definition and reasons on their site.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

And who is in control of the WHO ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What is a plandemic ?"

It’s a virus that starts off as a Flan but mutates into a plandemic!!!!!

Hope this helps.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

"Why ? It’s a simple discussion are people not allowed different opinions?

I would have thought a site like this embraces alternative views "

Hopefully they'll move it to the stories and fantasies section.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Why ? It’s just an opinion

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

The virologist involved in the film Plandemic has been accused of scientific misconduct and has joined a bunch of cranks.

The claims it's manmade are political and have no basis in evidence.

Conspiracy theorists are having a field day, but that doesn't mean they have any evidence either.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

And do you have any evidence that it isn’t an engineered?

I’m not looking to cause trouble just create discussion

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"And do you have any evidence that it isn’t an engineered?

I’m not looking to cause trouble just create discussion "

I have no evidence that the moon is not made of cheese..

Is that the level of discussion this thread is at?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"And do you have any evidence that it isn’t an engineered?

I’m not looking to cause trouble just create

discussion "

I don't have any evidence that its not from outer space either...

Joking aside, hats off to you for challenging the science

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By *ushtush300Couple
over a year ago

Southport

True discussion not brainwashed press oppression let's just be free to think about what is really happening here stop excepting media is truth

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Hats off to you for not challenging the infomation your fed, there’s nothing wrong with questioning what your being told,

As they say ignorance is bliss for some and I respect that.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

"And do you have any evidence that it isn’t an engineered?

I’m not looking to cause trouble just create discussion

I have no evidence that the moon is not made of cheese..

Is that the level of discussion this thread is at?"

Nonsense.

It's a button.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

If that’s the level of your thought process

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"True discussion not brainwashed press oppression let's just be free to think about what is really happening here stop excepting media is truth "

What is truth?

Bloke down the socially distanced pub who knows a guy who has a cousin etc..

An internet site?

Owned or financed by whom?

And are the recipients of these other sources not brainwashed too?

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"And who is in control of the WHO ? "

Bill Gates? George Soros? Hilary Clinton? The Illuminati? Lizards?

I give up.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Well America fund it the most the rest is paid for by bill gates a man who’s been killing Africans with his vaccines for years take a step of the edge

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By *ushtush300Couple
over a year ago

Southport

Disease is disease it's how you use the opportunity ???

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

To be someone looking for alternatives shows you have stepped away from the brainwashing

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"And do you have any evidence that it isn’t an engineered?

I’m not looking to cause trouble just create discussion "

Discussion is good..

As the op what is the evidence that your presenting to validate your claim?

Lay it out so people can scrutinise it, counter it and come to a conclusion..

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"What is a plandemic ?

It’s a virus that starts off as a Flan but mutates into a plandemic!!!!!

Hope this helps.

Thanks for clarification. Did it derive from Tiswas ? The Phantom Flan Flinger has mutated into a Plan Plinger ?

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By *ushtush300Couple
over a year ago

Southport

Sarcasm I'm saying how the megalomaniacs can use any situation to spread fear and make money no conspiracy pure greed and opportunity

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"And do you have any evidence that it isn’t an engineered?

I’m not looking to cause trouble just create discussion "

Do you have evidence that it is?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So these megalomaniacs wouldn’t have the resources to orchestrate it ?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"And do you have any evidence that it isn’t an engineered?

I’m not looking to cause trouble just create discussion "

Off the top of my head no, but I've heard virologists discuss, over months, that the structure is inconsistent with being man made.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Try looking for yourself if your actually interested and questioning then it’s time

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

The documentary Plandemic with disgraced, fraudulent virologist Judy Mikovits?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Yet there are many patents on coronavirus ?

Patents that were filed in the last few years !

Oh yeah you can’t patent something that is natural and created by nature that’s a fact

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Yes it’s very easy to shout disgrace and conspiracy until your voluntarily wearing a mask months after the peak of the virus

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Sarcasm I'm saying how the megalomaniacs can use any situation to spread fear and make money no conspiracy pure greed and opportunity "

Yet you can't answer a simple question..?

Seems to be the norm with some that they spout of about others who don't share their theory's yet fail to give any credible evidence..

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

Ok, you tell me then! I'm in Aberdeen, I'm now in week 3 of a local lockdown, all because the locals including the Aberdeen football team couldn't help themselves because a pint was far more attractive to them them rather the their ££££KKKK paychecks, they also went against SFA rules and didn't give a shit about who else caught it! Now I also have men messaging me daily, In Aberdeen now, wanna meet, when it is against the current rules of social interaction, all because they want to get their dick wet!

So men, who are you willing to pass on Covid-19 onto just because you want to get you're dick wet? Is no one else important to you except your dick?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Try looking for yourself if your actually interested and questioning then it’s time "

I've been seeking out additional information since March.

I think the issue is whether people have the skillset to find reliable information

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By *iddle ManMan
over a year ago

Walsall

There are secrets for sure that governments and 'they' will never tell 'us'.

I fail to see how anyone is gaining from this worldwide disruption. Apart from mask makers. ??

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

Some opinions are backed by reliable evidence.

All opinions are not equal.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Yes it’s very easy to shout disgrace and conspiracy until your voluntarily wearing a mask months after the peak of the virus "

I'm not shouting.

I'm wearing a mask because it's the right thing to do.

Have you considered whether the information you've found is valid or credible?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Are you not doing that can you show me any independent evidence ?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Try looking for yourself if your actually interested and questioning then it’s time "

Easier if you use reply and quote..

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By *essiCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

Pulls up a chair and sits quietly engrossed...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I have and I trust independent research over the mass media that’s controlled by one person

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Are you not doing that can you show me any independent evidence ? "

I've been following science communicators, some of whom are virologists and immunologists, and all of whom have been following the research.

What do you consider independent evidence?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have and I trust independent research over the mass media that’s controlled by one person "

Who controls it all?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Whoa free speech my man or have you bent over and accepted your truth with out thinking for yourself

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I have and I trust independent research over the mass media that’s controlled by one person "

You do realise that there are more sources other than the mass media and cranks?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Again op what is your evidence to back up your claim, lay it out then people can look at it and decide..?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Whoa free speech my man or have you bent over and accepted your truth with out thinking for yourself"

So. This discussion you wanted. We're discussing.

Why do you assume people who disagree with you aren't thinking for themselves?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Whoa free speech my man or have you bent over and accepted your truth with out thinking for yourself

So. This discussion you wanted. We're discussing.

Why do you assume people who disagree with you aren't thinking for themselves?"

I don’t , but it seems they are very eager to ridicule anyone who stands up to there opinions

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Whoa free speech my man or have you bent over and accepted your truth with out thinking for yourself

So. This discussion you wanted. We're discussing.

Why do you assume people who disagree with you aren't thinking for themselves?

I don’t , but it seems they are very eager to ridicule anyone who stands up to there opinions "

Unfortunately their "opinions" are backed by a huge amount of evidence and communicated by reputable scientists and sources. A documentary is not evidence.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

OP, have you presented any evidence other than linking to a documentary YouTube refuse to host because it's so out there, defaming Bill Gates and claiming we're incapable of independent thought?

Like... anything positive suggesting that anything you're suggesting here might have a tiny shred of credibility?

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

"Yes it’s very easy to shout disgrace and conspiracy until your voluntarily wearing a mask months after the peak of the virus "

Surely wearing a mask and reducing the spread of this 'planned virus' goes against what your new world order wanted? Or was the end game to sell more masks?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Yes it’s very easy to shout disgrace and conspiracy until your voluntarily wearing a mask months after the peak of the virus

Surely wearing a mask and reducing the spread of this 'planned virus' goes against what your new world order wanted? Or was the end game to sell more masks? "

I personally find putting cloth on my face to be a terribly minor imposition.

Putting cloth on my face. Versus. Death and long term health consequences for we don't know how many people.

Oh oh no. Cloth on my face is so terrible I must protest

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By *iddle ManMan
over a year ago

Walsall

How is behind it then, and what is the reason?

I don't dismiss people opinion and some of the so called conspiracy theories throughout time make for some interesting reading, not to say they are true but make you think.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont belive it is an pandemic in the way the media is hyping it up to be but rather political, having said that. I do wear a mask to adhere to the rules

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No it’s not.

End of discussion.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

"I dont belive it is an pandemic in the way the media is hyping it up to be but rather political, having said that. I do wear a mask to adhere to the rules

What do you mean by political? How is it benefitting politics? It has shown the government to be seriously inept with its countless u-turns, increased their borrowing which they always criticise the opposition for, is going to put thousands out of work, had the whole exams fiasco, the knock on effects of the pandemic or the hospitals and the economy are still to come, a no deal Brexit looking more likely.

There are very few governing political parties who are coming out of this well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dont belive it is an pandemic in the way the media is hyping it up to be but rather political, having said that. I do wear a mask to adhere to the rules

This .

There is virus on the loose but the media is scaring the living daylights out of people

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"I dont belive it is an pandemic in the way the media is hyping it up to be but rather political, having said that. I do wear a mask to adhere to the rules

There are very few governing political parties who are coming out of this well. "

Quite so. It makes zero sense for a government to inflict a difficult situation, with zero gain, on themselves.

Psychologically it seems conspiracy theorists just can't handle the idea that life is in large part random and uncontrollable. There has to be some grand plan for everything.

It'd make you feel sorry for them if they didn't combine this with absolute arrogance most of the time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dont belive it is an pandemic in the way the media is hyping it up to be but rather political, having said that. I do wear a mask to adhere to the rules

This .

There is virus on the loose but the media is scaring the living daylights out of people "
Yes, you are right on that one too

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I dont belive it is an pandemic in the way the media is hyping it up to be but rather political, having said that. I do wear a mask to adhere to the rules

There are very few governing political parties who are coming out of this well.

Quite so. It makes zero sense for a government to inflict a difficult situation, with zero gain, on themselves.

Psychologically it seems conspiracy theorists just can't handle the idea that life is in large part random and uncontrollable. There has to be some grand plan for everything.

It'd make you feel sorry for them if they didn't combine this with absolute arrogance most of the time. "

Quite.

I do feel sorry for them. Even though they're often obnoxious and actively harmful. It must be difficult having to invent malevolent forces out to get you.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"I dont belive it is an pandemic in the way the media is hyping it up to be but rather political, having said that. I do wear a mask to adhere to the rules

Can a virus be political?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

The thread is dripping in irony when part of the title is discuss, and the op won't..

Hey ho..

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

"The thread is dripping in irony when part of the title is discuss, and the op won't..

Hey ho.."

Nor could he get the true title correct!!

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By *uenevereWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"The thread is dripping in irony when part of the title is discuss, and the op won't..

Hey ho..

Nor could he get the true title correct!!

Actually that is correct. It alludes to the while situation being some sort if grand international conspiracy as the result of releasing a manufactured virus.

This is despite the fact that it is beyond the realms of probably, that 99% if the world leaders could ever manage to agree on anything.

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By *uenevereWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Sorry about the errors...

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"Well America fund it the most the rest is paid for by bill gates a man who’s been killing Africans with his vaccines for years take a step of the edge "

And there we have it in a nutshell.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

Bacofoil

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"Whoa free speech my man or have you bent over and accepted your truth with out thinking for yourself"

With freedom comes responsibility.

Take some and stop spreading disinformation.

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By *uenevereWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Update

OP will be unable to continue his end of the discussion.

Due to forum rules, I can't sat more.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"Yet there are many patents on coronavirus ?

Patents that were filed in the last few years !

Oh yeah you can’t patent something that is natural and created by nature that’s a fact "

The coronavirus group has been around for a very very long time... plenty of time to patent stuff

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By *r_Jake70Man
over a year ago

London

https://youtu.be/0b_eHBZLM6U

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"Yet there are many patents on coronavirus ?

Patents that were filed in the last few years !

Oh yeah you can’t patent something that is natural and created by nature that’s a fact

The coronavirus group has been around for a very very long time... plenty of time to patent stuff "

Bee stings have been around a lot longer.

Can I patent those?

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

"Yet there are many patents on coronavirus ?

Patents that were filed in the last few years !

Oh yeah you can’t patent something that is natural and created by nature that’s a fact

The coronavirus group has been around for a very very long time... plenty of time to patent stuff

Bee stings have been around a lot longer.

Can I patent those?

When I'm planning a covert global pandemic, featuring a conspiracy of all major nations, the first thing I do is contact the patents office.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"Yet there are many patents on coronavirus ?

Patents that were filed in the last few years !

Oh yeah you can’t patent something that is natural and created by nature that’s a fact

The coronavirus group has been around for a very very long time... plenty of time to patent stuff "

The patent story actually relates to a "failed treatment" for SARS (part of the coronavirus family) created in 2006.

Cal

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"Yet there are many patents on coronavirus ?

Patents that were filed in the last few years !

Oh yeah you can’t patent something that is natural and created by nature that’s a fact

The coronavirus group has been around for a very very long time... plenty of time to patent stuff

Bee stings have been around a lot longer.

Can I patent those?

When I'm planning a covert global pandemic, featuring a conspiracy of all major nations, the first thing I do is contact the patents office. "

Immensely sensible move, those damn lizard people always try to take over...

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"Yet there are many patents on coronavirus ?

Patents that were filed in the last few years !

Oh yeah you can’t patent something that is natural and created by nature that’s a fact

The coronavirus group has been around for a very very long time... plenty of time to patent stuff

The patent story actually relates to a "failed treatment" for SARS (part of the coronavirus family) created in 2006.

Cal"
I couldn't be bothered to go search but obviously I know that while covid 19 is newish... coronavirus's aren't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And he’s gone. Collapsed in his d*unken stupor.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And he’s gone. Collapsed in his d*unken stupor."

Think he's gone on holiday

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"And he’s gone. Collapsed in his d*unken stupor.

Think he's gone on holiday"

The Lizard people got him..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And he’s gone. Collapsed in his d*unken stupor.

Think he's gone on holiday

The Lizard people got him..?

Yup been abducted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm more scared by people who don't question what is really happening than I am by the virus itself.

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By *ichaelangelaCouple
over a year ago

notts

Did I read somewhere, at the beginning of all this virus thing, that it was supposed to have been released so they could change the batteries in the pigeons or something like that ???

wtf was that all about

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"Did I read somewhere, at the beginning of all this virus thing, that it was supposed to have been released so they could change the batteries in the pigeons or something like that ???

wtf was that all about"

It was to make them run on diesel or batteries - they're called hybridgeons now...

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"And he’s gone. Collapsed in his d*unken stupor.

Think he's gone on holiday

The Lizard people got him..?

Yup been abducted "

Do you think they do requests..?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"https://youtu.be/0b_eHBZLM6U"

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By *adyinred696969Couple
over a year ago

Brecon

"Simple as that "

And, in other news, sales of tinfoil and hat patterns have skyrocketed in the OP's location.

And now...the weather.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm more scared by people who don't question what is really happening than I am by the virus itself. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you’re under 50 and relatively fit you have nothing to worry about. Our economic collapse has happened trying to save those that don’t even contribute to our economy. Strange times.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"If you’re under 50 and relatively fit you have nothing to worry about. Our economic collapse has happened trying to save those that don’t even contribute to our economy. Strange times."

Oh, you mean the ones who paid for your education, built the infrastructure you take for granted and were there to make sure you were fed, clothed and kept healthy if you needed it?

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire

"If you’re under 50 and relatively fit you have nothing to worry about. Our economic collapse has happened trying to save those that don’t even contribute to our economy. Strange times."

Congratulations on posting one of the most breathtakingly arrogant things I've ever read.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you’re under 50 and relatively fit you have nothing to worry about. Our economic collapse has happened trying to save those that don’t even contribute to our economy. Strange times."

I'll drink whatever you have been drinking! Lol

Those have being paying tax for 40 plus years you mean ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And do you have any evidence that it isn’t an engineered?

I’m not looking to cause trouble just create discussion "

You dont base things on a lack of evidence for something opposite....you base things on the mass of evidence for the facts.

Can you prove I'm not a Martian?

Thought not....so by your logic, I must be.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

"If you’re under 50 and relatively fit you have nothing to worry about. Our economic collapse has happened trying to save those that don’t even contribute to our economy. Strange times."

Let's just cut out the _iddle man and build some camps to send these unproductive members of society to.

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By *ornykinkycouple84Couple
over a year ago

Chesterfield

"If you’re under 50 and relatively fit you have nothing to worry about. Our economic collapse has happened trying to save those that don’t even contribute to our economy. Strange times."

So essentially what your saying is "Fuck the over 50s, they dont contribute to society anyway so let's go back to normal and if the virus is passed onto vulnerable people fuck it one less mouth to feed"..... what the actual f is wrong with you? I think I can think of an historical character that wanted a whole group of people out of the way..... I'll let you think which character I mean.

Seriously fuck you, my mum Is 60 in September (works 5 days a week) I have freinds who's parents are older some retired and some shielded and some both, you need to give your head a wobble

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"If you’re under 50 and relatively fit you have nothing to worry about. Our economic collapse has happened trying to save those that don’t even contribute to our economy. Strange times.

Let's just cut out the _iddle man and build some camps to send these unproductive members of society to. "

Oooh that's a good idea, it would help loads with unemployment. We would just need to train a load of doctors first though, as most of the doctors, surgeons and consultants are well over 50.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"If you’re under 50 and relatively fit you have nothing to worry about. Our economic collapse has happened trying to save those that don’t even contribute to our economy. Strange times."

I'm under 50, was relatively fit, and it kicked my arse for three months. I'm still not right.

Our economy was doing poorly anyway and we decided to remember that the economy serves humanity, not the other way around.

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London

"If you’re under 50 and relatively fit you have nothing to worry about. Our economic collapse has happened trying to save those that don’t even contribute to our economy. Strange times."

So you’d sacrifice all the others on the altar of the economy?

That’s just evil.

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London

"If you’re under 50 and relatively fit you have nothing to worry about. Our economic collapse has happened trying to save those that don’t even contribute to our economy. Strange times.

Let's just cut out the _iddle man and build some camps to send these unproductive members of society to.

Oooh that's a good idea, it would help loads with unemployment. We would just need to train a load of doctors first though, as most of the doctors, surgeons and consultants are well over 50."

You can find plenty of guard material though; matey and his friends will be at the front of the queue.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"Why ? It’s a simple discussion are people not allowed different opinions?

I would have thought a site like this embraces alternative views "

Seems not if u are in the .minority u are in the tin foil hat brigade! So most of time it's best not to air your opinions! Not just here f book etc much the same x

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Why ? It’s a simple discussion are people not allowed different opinions?

I would have thought a site like this embraces alternative views

Seems not if u are in the .minority u are in the tin foil hat brigade! So most of time it's best not to air your opinions! Not just here f book etc much the same x"

Maybe because the minority are expressing views that aren't based in reality?

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"Why ? It’s a simple discussion are people not allowed different opinions?

I would have thought a site like this embraces alternative views

Seems not if u are in the .minority u are in the tin foil hat brigade! So most of time it's best not to air your opinions! Not just here f book etc much the same x

Maybe because the minority are expressing views that aren't based in reality?"

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"If you’re under 50 and relatively fit you have nothing to worry about. Our economic collapse has happened trying to save those that don’t even contribute to our economy. Strange times."

Really?

Some of the generation that fought for the freedom we have, the post war generations that helped to pull this country through those times .

Those people?

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By *kinnybhoyMan
over a year ago

stoke

"What is a plandemic ?

It’s a virus that starts off as a Flan but mutates into a plandemic!!!!!

Hope this helps.

God has a flan for all of us.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Why ? It’s a simple discussion are people not allowed different opinions?

I would have thought a site like this embraces alternative views

Seems not if u are in the .minority u are in the tin foil hat brigade! So most of time it's best not to air your opinions! Not just here f book etc much the same x"

We all have opinions, nothing wrong on stating them but the nature of any forum is there is debate ..

Which is more than what some and the op in this thread seem to want to do after posting their opinion..

A debate is not just making a statement then refusing to engage or offer any further information to give credibility to the opinion..

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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago

ribble valley

"If you’re under 50 and relatively fit you have nothing to worry about. Our economic collapse has happened trying to save those that don’t even contribute to our economy. Strange times."

As a useless piece of society, l would happily place a bet, that I've paid more into the economy than younger people. Including yourself

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"Try looking for yourself if your actually interested and questioning then it’s time "

I very much doubt me spending an hour on google would find anything out that actually qualified people have. There are far easier ways to cull..... not one political body has benefited in any way. Sorry I’m not into ‘wake up sheeples’ .... just and excuse to flout the guidance to suit your own narrative from the behaviour I’ve seen by the people quoting it.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"If you’re under 50 and relatively fit you have nothing to worry about. Our economic collapse has happened trying to save those that don’t even contribute to our economy. Strange times."

Block... nasty. Seriously I’m approaching 50 and have been paying into society since I was 16. Good luck getting meets with that attitude

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London

"What is a plandemic ?

It’s a virus that starts off as a Flan but mutates into a plandemic!!!!!

Hope this helps.

God has a flan for all of us. "

This sort of thing is hilarious when it pops up on a church powerpoint during a service.

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By *all me FlikWoman
over a year ago

Galaxy Far Far Away

"If you’re under 50 and relatively fit you have nothing to worry about. Our economic collapse has happened trying to save those that don’t even contribute to our economy. Strange times."

You mean all those over 50's business owners who probably employ the vast majority of under 50's plus of course over 50's will be working until at least mid 60's.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why ? It’s a simple discussion are people not allowed different opinions?

I would have thought a site like this embraces alternative views

Seems not if u are in the .minority u are in the tin foil hat brigade! So most of time it's best not to air your opinions! Not just here f book etc much the same x

Maybe because the minority are expressing views that aren't based in reality?"

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By *zz adventureWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow

"There are secrets for sure that governments and 'they' will never tell 'us'.

I fail to see how anyone is gaining from this worldwide disruption. Apart from mask makers. ??"

There is a lot to gain from the destabilising of society. A keen sweep to allow the right wing more clout. They love self sufficient and selling off NHS. Now they have been very one doing what they are told else they'll be fined (wear face masks). There is no opposition else your not out for common good.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but they now have all the information joined up - email, mobile, NHS number, test results, employment status to see if you are useful fodder or not... Haha half joking!

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

"If you’re under 50 and relatively fit you have nothing to worry about. Our economic collapse has happened trying to save those that don’t even contribute to our economy. Strange times.

Let's just cut out the _iddle man and build some camps to send these unproductive members of society to.

Oooh that's a good idea, it would help loads with unemployment. We would just need to train a load of doctors first though, as most of the doctors, surgeons and consultants are well over 50."

We could just get them from foreign countries, oh no, wait that wouldn't work either, wouldn't want them coming here stealing our jobs, bringing their qualifications and medical skills.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"Why ? It’s a simple discussion are people not allowed different opinions?

I would have thought a site like this embraces alternative views

Seems not if u are in the .minority u are in the tin foil hat brigade! So most of time it's best not to air your opinions! Not just here f book etc much the same x"

The social media companies are finally understanding that the 'minority theorists' spreading their 'opinions' on their platforms are doing more harm than good and are removing their posts, rather than drag others of limited intellect into their world.

Under normal circumstances these people are just a background annoyance, but these aren't normal circumstances.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why ? It’s a simple discussion are people not allowed different opinions?

I would have thought a site like this embraces alternative views

Seems not if u are in the .minority u are in the tin foil hat brigade! So most of time it's best not to air your opinions! Not just here f book etc much the same x

We all have opinions, nothing wrong on stating them but the nature of any forum is there is debate ..

Which is more than what some and the op in this thread seem to want to do after posting their opinion..

A debate is not just making a statement then refusing to engage or offer any further information to give credibility to the opinion..

Very much this.

It's tiresome to state the scientific evidence and get ignored, and yet these posters still peddle trash. If just one would look at the various evidence posted and then at least acknowedge its merits, it'll be worthwhile.

Wtf is the crap about over 50s when we have credible evidence to show its an older age group most affected. Even so, we are not going to allow our elderly like lambs to the slaughter.

We can interpret data that shows the fatality is no worse than flu and posters argue why don't we protect people from the flu - ffs the data is due to strategies implemented, otherwise we would be piling up the dead in the streets, so to speak.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"If you’re under 50 and relatively fit you have nothing to worry about. Our economic collapse has happened trying to save those that don’t even contribute to our economy. Strange times."

Didnt know you could retire at 51?

Great news

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you’re under 50 and relatively fit you have nothing to worry about. Our economic collapse has happened trying to save those that don’t even contribute to our economy. Strange times."

The over 50s have more disposable income than any other age bracket. So they contribute by spending money. Some may still work, some may be business owners. They have also paid taxes all their lives to contribute to what we have today. Someone needs a reality check.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"If you’re under 50 and relatively fit you have nothing to worry about. Our economic collapse has happened trying to save those that don’t even contribute to our economy. Strange times.

I could be wrong but I'm guessing the poster referred to has not said to his relatives, friends etc what he thinks ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you’re under 50 and relatively fit you have nothing to worry about. Our economic collapse has happened trying to save those that don’t even contribute to our economy. Strange times.

I could be wrong but I'm guessing the poster referred to has not said to his relatives, friends etc what he thinks .."

Exactly. All good to put everyone together in an age bracket but these are real people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This nails it...it’s very human to seek meaning and cause and effect...harder to accept that life is often absurd, unfair, chaotic and tragic....pessimistic I know and little comfort for those who have suffered so much

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"This nails it...it’s very human to seek meaning and cause and effect...harder to accept that life is often absurd, unfair, chaotic and tragic....pessimistic I know and little comfort for those who have suffered so much "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brilliant

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By *inotGringoMan
over a year ago

Lancashire

This is all starting to give me a headache.

A few people are saying don’t trust the media, because they have an agenda.

What’s the agenda of others’ whom are offering their alternative view? Where is their independent evidence? Or is it baseless claims from the unstable, the attention seeking?

There has been mentions of patents having been claimed containing coronavirus. Are you able to identify the chemical structure of coronavirus? Would you be able to differentiate between the chemical structure of bleach and coronavirus?

Or once again, is this a result of the unstable, the uneducated, the attention seeking?

I have no doubt that we have been lied to start to finish and I completely understand why people are upset about that. But the reality is, the people in charge of the country, the people who are doing the lying have just as much of a clue as us. In Boris’ case, less so.

I have no idea what plandemic is, but to insinuate people are benefitting from this pandemic is really shit of you. And finally, to accuse Bill Gates of killing African children is disgusting.

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By *lym4realCouple
over a year ago

plymouth

Appeals to so many as we live in uncertain times and the reasoning being bad stuff can't just randomly happen can it ?? as most of us all live in a "Bubble" of some kind or other and so when bad stuff happens ?? plus we all like to laugh or poke fun but this QAnon stuff that's been gaining a foothold world wide is some scary stuff and backed by the most powerful man in the world?? and all plays to people thinking they have some kind of "Special" knowledge like a cult/religion and we are all doooooomed if we don't listen ?? as it's seems that people have no control over their lives and pretty much text box psyops stuff really !! and they merrily mix limited facts and then add a healthy dose of government mistrust and away we go !! but really over here this lot couldn't organize a in a brewery ??? and the plain fact is nasty nasty stuff happens mainly to the people least able to deal with it and it's the system of poverty making money

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The simple answer is you'll NEVER know either way.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

It's almost another form of religion. Something to cling to. Wake up, the Devil is in your heart and clouding your judgement, don't eat from the Tree of Knowledge, follow me instead. Evidence? Have faith!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Remember you saying you suffered...how you feeling now?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Remember you saying you suffered...how you feeling now?"

99% better, thank you. It's a rough illness even at the mild end.

Doing the work to rebuild my lung capacity now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That’s great news ?? big relief for you after such a long slog...stay well x

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By *heIcebreakersCouple
over a year ago

Cramlington

"What is a plandemic ?

It’s a virus that starts off as a Flan but mutates into a plandemic!!!!!

Hope this helps.

T"
I can't tell the difference between a flandemic and the quiche of death.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe so, or maybe it's the lack of control. It is easier to scapegoat the Chinese govt than actually face the fact we're fighting something faceless that is causing various suffering. It's easier to blame some rich geek in a foreign land trying to control us through govt mandates, than accept that the strategies in place as simple as hand washing and wearing masks when required is a positive strategy against our invisible foe. It's easier to believe bombs, guns and words of hate or fear should be levied against our man-sized enemies than pathogens, which require powerful microscopes to see.

Us minions have no power. Even govts have little power so many of the minions rebel against them to achieve a perceived control.

I'm a minion but thank fuck, even with an acquired brain injury, I can see further than my nose!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"That’s great news ?? big relief for you after such a long slog...stay well x"

Thank you

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Us minions have no power. Even govts have little power so many of the minions rebel against them to achieve a perceived control.

I'm a minion but thank fuck, even with an acquired brain injury, I can see further than my nose! "

I have the power to not scapegoat. To show compassion for my Chinese brothers and sisters who face discrimination because of this, because they do.

Even if their government (or the government of their ancestors, because we're talking about the diaspora too) screwed up (not unleashed a diabolical plot etc don't be ridiculous), they're ordinary people just like me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Us minions have no power. Even govts have little power so many of the minions rebel against them to achieve a perceived control.

I'm a minion but thank fuck, even with an acquired brain injury, I can see further than my nose!

I have the power to not scapegoat. To show compassion for my Chinese brothers and sisters who face discrimination because of this, because they do.

Exactly.

And I love Chinese food

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Why ? It’s a simple discussion are people not allowed different opinions?

I would have thought a site like this embraces alternative views

Seems not if u are in the .minority u are in the tin foil hat brigade! So most of time it's best not to air your opinions! Not just here f book etc much the same x

Under normal circumstances these people are just a background annoyance, but these aren't normal circumstances."

Fab would benefit from discontinuing dangerous BS conspiracy stuff, similarly to those other sites which have been struggling to do it - it may be why we get this stream of them here.

We could open a Bullshit forum area for them to post in. Or have an additional agreement for posting in the Virus area that posting threads that can be viewed as undermining public health can result in extended absence from all of the forum.

The consequences of people persistently undermining the necessary obligations that we all have are truly awful.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"Why ? It’s a simple discussion are people not allowed different opinions?

I would have thought a site like this embraces alternative views

Seems not if u are in the .minority u are in the tin foil hat brigade! So most of time it's best not to air your opinions! Not just here f book etc much the same x

Under normal circumstances these people are just a background annoyance, but these aren't normal circumstances.

Fab would benefit from discontinuing dangerous BS conspiracy stuff, similarly to those other sites which have been struggling to do it - it may be why we get this stream of them here.

The consequences of people persistently undermining the necessary obligations that we all have are truly awful. "

Oh dear! Exactly why I refrain from airing my opinions which are just that! Opinions! And I adere to all the regulations! Face masks/ distancing washing etc. But does not stop me having opinions!

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By *iddle ManMan
over a year ago

Walsall

I still want to know who is behind it all then if people think there is a conspiracy.

It's just life being crap and a virus, it doesn't discriminate or pick and choose. Sure there are countries that have dealt with it all differently but if its shown us all one thing, there is no correct way to do it. Those that we thought were doing well are now having trouble, Germany, Australia and some of the east Asian countries.

It's laughable some of the things, I will admit I do like a conspiracy story, but maybe not one I and seven billion others are involved in.

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By *assion and MoreCouple
over a year ago

Here and There, Monaghan

"Simple as that "

As my Mother use to say - There is always one

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By *ubberstablesMan
over a year ago

finglas

Be careful with the COVID posts as anyone who has a back bone to say it’s not As serious as what the government Are telling us is told to go put on the tinfoil hat , but let’s all play golf together

because it won’t infect golfers/priests/Garda/ Politicians from Ireland are All exempt

this virus is sound I’d nearly have a drink with it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been muted before for complaining about the amount of 'fake news' active misinformation on this topic in here before.

It's dissapointing that for a site that otherwise trys to promote their stance toward covid, that these endless 'facebook' level debates on covid being a conspiracy are left to just devolve into endless mud slinging.

It's fine if there are some threads for people to point out why the arguments in favour of a conspiracy are just terrible, but it take 10x as long to actually form a decent response, with argument and evidence, than it does for yet another person with a screw loose to spam yet another one of these topics.

And probably even less to the report people who are wanting the pseudo-science to be censored for the benefit of people's sanity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Be careful with the COVID posts as anyone who has a back bone to say it’s not As serious as what the government Are telling us is told to go put on the tinfoil hat , but let’s all play golf together

because it won’t infect golfers/priests/Garda/ Politicians from Ireland are All exempt

this virus is sound I’d nearly have a drink with it "

I'd say you would be drinking I bad company....but that's up to you.

Me in the meantime will take precautions as I remember the people who have died from this.

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over a year ago

"I still want to know who is behind it all then if people think there is a conspiracy.

It's laughable some of the things, I will admit I do like a conspiracy story, but maybe not one I and seven billion others are involved in. "

How do you define "being in trouble"?

Trump did the same thing saying New Zealand was "in trouble" when it reported 9 new Covid cases after months of no Covid cases at all. There's still only been 22 deaths from Covid-19 in New Zealand. Still the moment they had new cases they went straight back into lockdown.

Sure New Zealand only has 5 million population but their per capita death rate is an example of what can be achieved.

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By *ubberstablesMan
over a year ago

finglas

I think my drinking company is fine but when I do have doubts they usually go after my 5th JD and , and I will also remember the people who Iv know ?? who have passed away one with heart attack and one who had heart transplant both died and both had COVID in there death certificates

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I still want to know who is behind it all then if people think there is a conspiracy.

It's laughable some of the things, I will admit I do like a conspiracy story, but maybe not one I and seven billion others are involved in.

How do you define "being in trouble"?

Sure New Zealand only has 5 million population but their per capita death rate is an example of what can be achieved."

The same way as Italy was a disaster and an abomination in February/ early March and we're bigly world beating now and shouldn't make comparisons?

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire

"I think my drinking company is fine but when I do have doubts they usually go after my 5th JD and , and I will also remember the people who Iv know ?? who have passed away one with heart attack and one who had heart transplant both died and both had COVID in there death certificates "

Bullshit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bullshit"

He'll be past his 5th pint already

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By *ubberstablesMan
over a year ago

finglas

Bullshit ? How you crack code

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By *ubberstablesMan
over a year ago

finglas

Not drinking today I’m in Dublin City at a out side gathering with no mask on me and over 2000 people

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

Can well believe this! X

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

No way will anybody be getting a heart transplant if they have had covid recently. So i treat this "evidence" with a massive pinch of salt.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

That would fit with the research from the heart foundation, Covid causes heart attacks so why do you think it's wrong ?

If you have a heart condition, your risk of catching the disease is not any higher than anyone else, but your risk of becoming seriously ill is higher.

We know that death rates from Covid-19 among people with existing heart conditions are higher than people who don’t have existing health conditions.

Read about what factors put you at risk of coronavirus

Most people who get the Covid-19 coronavirus either have no symptoms at all, or a mild illness which can include cough, fever, loss of sense of smell or taste, or aches and pains. Some people (up to 5 per cent) develop a severe illness which means they need to go to hospital.

If the infection gets severe (severe enough that you would need to be in hospital) it can then damage the lungs, meaning they are less able to supply oxygen to the bloodstream. This causes oxygen levels in the blood to drop which may mean organs such as the kidneys, brain, and heart not getting enough oxygen – this in turn can mean those organs can’t work properly.

How does coronavirus affect your heart and circulatory system?

Severe cases of coronavirus are linked to a higher risk of blood clots. Depending on where in your body they are, blood clots can lead to serious problems such as deep vein thrombosis, clots in the blood vessels in the lung (pulmonary embolism), heart attack and stroke.

Read more about how coronavirus could affect your arteries and veins

We know that patients in hospital with severe cases of coronavirus who have heart muscle damage as shown by blood tests are linked to a higher chance of dying. This has also been shown in other severe lung infections. In some patients, further tests called echocardiograms find that the heart isn’t pumping as well as it should. What isn’t always clear is whether that damage was already there, although many researchers believe that the virus can damage the heart muscle function. As well as heart failure, heart complications of severe Covid-19 can include inflammation of the heart (myocarditis), takotsubo syndrome (‘broken heart syndrome’) or heart rhythm disturbances. Some heart rhythm disturbances may happen as a result of certain drugs that are used to treat coronavirus – these drugs are likely to be avoided if you are already known to have a heart condition.

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By *-4pleasureCouple
over a year ago

Belfast

"Simple as that "

Do you have no opinions of your own ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That would fit with the research from the heart foundation, Covid causes heart attacks so why do you think it's wrong ?

If you have a heart condition, your risk of catching the disease is not any higher than anyone else, but your risk of becoming seriously ill is higher.

We know that death rates from Covid-19 among people with existing heart conditions are higher than people who don’t have existing health conditions.

Read about what factors put you at risk of coronavirus

How does coronavirus affect your heart and circulatory system?

Read more about how coronavirus could affect your arteries and veins

My father had asbestosis. It slowly but surely shut down his lungs until his heart sinply couldn't beat fast enough to supply oxgen to his body and it failed in the process of trying to do so.

His death certificate read heart attack.

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By *uck-RogersMan
over a year ago

Tarka trail

A plannedemic

Utter rubbish, that's like saying ! Boris Johnson Spent a few days camped in a farmers field in an old scout canvas tent, with no ground sheet. While everyone else slept in a cottage.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is a plandemic.

Failing to plan is planning to fail.

Our handling of this pandemic is one of the epic fails of our history

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

But at least he had a Grimsby Town bobble hat which the security guards didn't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

flue killed more people than covid, lets wake up and realise its just a virus we have to live with, its only the media making it sound worse than it is,

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By *az080378Woman
over a year ago

Cromer

"flue killed more people than covid, lets wake up and realise its just a virus we have to live with, its only the media making it sound worse than it is,"

Do you have a time period for the flu deaths or are we talking over a period of years?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"flue killed more people than covid, lets wake up and realise its just a virus we have to live with, its only the media making it sound worse than it is,"

I'm wide awake. We've contained the death toll from Covid-19.

What death statistics are you using?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"flue killed more people than covid, lets wake up and realise its just a virus we have to live with, its only the media making it sound worse than it is,

Do you have a time period for the flu deaths or are we talking over a period of years?

Flu has killed more people ever, therefore a virus with a capacity to overrun our healthcare system and with completely unknown long term effects is something we should trivialise

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

"flue killed more people than covid, lets wake up and realise its just a virus we have to live with, its only the media making it sound worse than it is,"

Is that carbon monoxide poisoning from the flue ?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"flue killed more people than covid, lets wake up and realise its just a virus we have to live with, its only the media making it sound worse than it is,

Is that carbon monoxide poisoning from the flue ?"

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Whenever I see some one playing death trump's with influenza etc I automatically think some people not all are desperately seeking affirmation that it's ok to just ignore the virus and get back to shagging people regardless..

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"flue killed more people than covid, lets wake up and realise its just a virus we have to live with, its only the media making it sound worse than it is,"

Death rate for flu 2019 was 1,223 people in England and Wales.

Your numbers or how you are comparing covid-19 with flu are seriously wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"flue killed more people than covid, lets wake up and realise its just a virus we have to live with, its only the media making it sound worse than it is,"

Bless!

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"flue killed more people than covid, lets wake up and realise its just a virus we have to live with, its only the media making it sound worse than it is,

Death rate for flu 2019 was 1,223 people in England and Wales.

Your numbers or how you are comparing covid-19 with flu are seriously wrong. "

I think that maybe the 'wake up' part was supposed to distract you from doing stuff like quote actual numbers...

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Why ? It’s a simple discussion are people not allowed different opinions?

I would have thought a site like this embraces alternative views "

It's not what the left want. Don't discuss it. Just do what you're told.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Has it killed as many as smoking does yet?

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By *esireXposedMan
over a year ago

East sussex

"Has it killed as many as smoking does yet?"

No, but it had a piss poor marketing campaign when it launched.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Has it killed as many as smoking does yet?

No, but it had a piss poor marketing campaign when it launched."

Or, not until the govt can heavily tax it

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire

"flue killed more people than covid, lets wake up and realise its just a virus we have to live with, its only the media making it sound worse than it is,"

You'll forgive me if I choose to ignore the opinion of someone who can't spell a three letter word

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I also find "plandemic" to be cute in a bad way.

Ooh clever you changed a word

that obviously makes it so.

Somewhere there's a house number 66 with 6 Gates. 666 is the devil's number therefore Bill Gates is evil.

I can make up ridiculous stuff too.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"I also find "plandemic" to be cute in a bad way.

Ooh clever you changed a word

that obviously makes it so.

Somewhere there's a house number 66 with 6 Gates. 666 is the devil's number therefore Bill Gates is evil.

I can make up ridiculous stuff too."

If only it was 6G - I think the powers that be got this too early

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not. Discussion over.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Has it killed as many as smoking does yet?

No, but it had a piss poor marketing campaign when it launched.

Or, not until the govt can heavily tax it

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By *all me FlikWoman
over a year ago

Galaxy Far Far Away

"I also find "plandemic" to be cute in a bad way.

Ooh clever you changed a word

that obviously makes it so.

Somewhere there's a house number 66 with 6 Gates. 666 is the devil's number therefore Bill Gates is evil.

I can make up ridiculous stuff too."

Then of course there's 668....the neighbour of the beast

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