FabSwingers.com forum: Fab rule change

By *ikeC81 OP Man
over a year ago

harrow

I think we all appreciate that fab done the right thing shutting down meets and clubs side of things in March and April. In my eyes that was the correct thing to do.

Now at the moment I think we all know both social and non-social meets are occurring both generated through the site and off site. Clubs are re-oponing with social distancing

Now I accept that fab wants to be seen to do the correct thing, and I get it but at the moment I do think there is a lack of transparency. Yes there are guidance and local lockdown rules but there has to come a time when fab says ok we will start opening the clubs pages or ability to meet.

Now I was thinking why don’t we have an ability to socially meet, and reopen the club pages and meet pages and read only (if that can be done)

We’re at a stage where most social locations have opened up with social distancing. I think over the next month with kids going back to school, if we see a stable Covid response and the rate doesn’t increase then the government will reduce to say 2.5

At the moment I think people are making judgement calls on there own risk. Would I go to a swing club at the moment with 15 people that I didn’t know. Nope. Would I go to a house event with 10 people where I knew half really well and could contact them. Most likely Yes.

For me whilst there guidines and law people have to make their minds up what acceptable risk, people should be able to say yes I am meeting ands your choice, for me it comes to bareback question

Would I meet a couple that only played bareback, no because I wear a condom, so I would think even with wearing a condom would I want to take the risk.

Probably a mixture of thoughts but sooner or later we will be able to meet again

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By *eilde HoarWoman
over a year ago

In a wax coated bubble

I imagine the fab meet settings will change when the government settings change to say its okay to meet

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By *ikeC81 OP Man
over a year ago

harrow

See the way I read the guidelines it is okay to socially meet.

I suppose internally there must be discussions on when and how do we switch on the meeting / clubs /!other parts of the forum

It’s not easy and I don’t envy fab as I guess there are people like me in a grey area, some people it’s black and white. So some people will say it’s irresponsible, some may say that it’s happening anyway.

Like I referred to bareback I would class it as irresponsible but appreciate it happens and we are not going to stop it as it’s a choice.

Personal I can see a phased approach happening, maybe some areas reopening with a statement

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Fab wants people to be safer and to follow government guidelines, hence their advice. It's still wise to not be hypocritical, by opening site features that could run against government rules. It may also lead to legal and business problems if they did

The virus forces us all to make lifestyle changes and sacrifices, so it's better to accept this and avoid returning to how we used to live, which helped to support the virus spreading.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let's be honest people are meeting on this site for sex. Let's not be naive about this, they are still meeting and playing.

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By *KMaxMan
over a year ago

Bristol

I think the government are keen to be seen to set a few examples, without wanting to get too political , I think it's fair to say there is confusion and anger over some limits they have set that are generally regarded as being unfair.

They would only need the slightest excuse to close down a swingers site, it would be an easy win for them.

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By *ominantDogMan
over a year ago

Manchester, Docklands, Exmoor

"Let's be honest people are meeting on this site for sex. Let's not be naive about this, they are still meeting and playing. "

Agreed, but the site isn't the driver.

A friend works in an NHS sexual health clinic.

She has never been as busy as she was during the early stages of lockdown.

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By *evilandTheBeastCouple
over a year ago

Peterborough and Bedford

That's the current update from Fab:

Just a quick update on this.

If you are following the local Covid-19 guidance in your country/locality (as some rules are very location specific), as per our post above, that is OK.

This continues to be the case as governments update their guidelines. If you are choosing to meet in a way that follows the guidance at that time, there is no problem.

Admin

However, you won't find it until you scroll to the end of the Covid-19 Fab guidelines thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve given up reporting people like they say you should ... nothing is done. Aberdeen is in lockdown and yesterday some twat messaged me asking to meet him and his mate, even though my profile clearly states I’m NOT meeting.

Messaged admin but as of today he is still there with the meet status blatantly on his profile. I’m aware people are still meeting but surely if they are clearly asking, they should be kicked off?

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By *ikeC81 OP Man
over a year ago

harrow

See it depends what kinda of meet I was asked about

So if it was a fuck meet with someone I didn’t know in area that was in lockdown no way And report

If it was in a friend in a lockdown area I would probably say not now but in future

Friends out of lockdown areas probably on a case by case basis.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm refusing all requests to meet at the moment. And am reporting those who ask.

Where I am we arent under any local restrictions (as yet) but I still wouldn't have a social meet with someone.

Yes, we've had friends over in the garden for the day and I've gone to visit my family for a day but having been very very strict with regards to LockDown and being Furloughed I am at a low risk of getting COVID-19.

Gotta weigh it up really. Is a meet, social or otherwise, worth risking your health and the health of those you may live with?

Don't come for me. Just my opinion.

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By *ancs MinxWoman
over a year ago

Burnley

"Let's be honest people are meeting on this site for sex. Let's not be naive about this, they are still meeting and playing. "

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"See it depends what kinda of meet I was asked about

So if it was a fuck meet with someone I didn’t know in area that was in lockdown no way And report

If it was in a friend in a lockdown area I would probably say not now but in future

Friends out of lockdown areas probably on a case by case basis. "

And therein lies the problem.

You have decided a set of meet criteria that you feel happy with, and so will others.

As Fab could be seen as an 'enabler' in this, I think their current stance is perfectly sensible.

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By *andR510Couple
over a year ago

St Neots/Wisbech

Common sense is the way forward here. Fab is under a different legal banner to the likes of us and cannot be seen to provide suspicion of encouraging anything that doesn't meet the guidelines.

We've had a few parties based on familiarity, trust and discretion. Every person attending has been impeccable in their attitudes and behaviour.

If fab banned everyone on a suspicion of breaking the govt advice, they'd have no subscription.

Be sensible, use your common sense, be safe but most importantly don't forgot to enjoy yourself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm refusing all requests to meet at the moment. And am reporting those who ask.

Where I am we arent under any local restrictions (as yet) but I still wouldn't have a social meet with someone.

Gotta weigh it up really. Is a meet, social or otherwise, worth risking your health and the health of those you may live with?

Don't come for me. Just my opinion. "

Some people care more about shagging strangers than they care about the health of their family and friends.

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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago

South Dublin Area

Whats the current restrictions in the UK?

In Ireland, 50 people are allowed indoors at any sort of event if they practice social distancing.

Some event organizers are nervous of advertising such an event incase the profile gets banned.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm refusing all requests to meet at the moment. And am reporting those who ask.

Where I am we arent under any local restrictions (as yet) but I still wouldn't have a social meet with someone.

Gotta weigh it up really. Is a meet, social or otherwise, worth risking your health and the health of those you may live with?

Don't come for me. Just my opinion.

Some people care more about shagging strangers than they care about the health of their family and friends. "

I'm sure some people do and that's on them. Even if one was to meet someone for a social there still could be other people around who have COVID-19 and don't know it and are spreading it around. I mean, its a pandemic for sobbing out loud. It ain't going away any time soon. Lol. But hey, wanna risk it for a biscuit? Go ahead but not me, thanks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whats the current restrictions in the UK?

In Ireland, 50 people are allowed indoors at any sort of event if they practice social distancing.

Some event organizers are nervous of advertising such an event incase the profile gets banned."

I think swinging events will be hard to keep to social distancing...dont you think?

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By *na WintersTV/TS
over a year ago

woodford halse

Not being funny, but the government have bigger issues than focussing on fab because they aren't adhering to government guidelines.

What with the thousands and thousands of people who aren't following SD laws whilst they're at the beach, or getting pissed up in central London.

Genuinely, let people do what they want to do, if they aren't careful enough, that's their issue.

Everyone should just be focussing on themselves.

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford

Surely it is not about the government checking up on Fab or any other site, it is about the people who run the site making an informed decision about how they run a business that they own.

Much the same as Asda etc etc run their business in the way that balances their need to trade and the guidelines as well as their own judgement around keeping people safe.

Some people are meeting, some are openly advertising meets on here, there is no point at all reporting them, nothing happens but this is a different thing to the owners openly facilitating people to meet.

They have made a judgement call on what they feel is right, what they feel is necessary at this time, and i am sure they will change it again when they think fit.

The bottom line folks is it is their business and they will run it as they wish, if you or I or anyone don't agree there is a 'delete profile' option.

Its free so we can leave anytime we don't like what is happening; somehow that smacks of my mothers old saying ' cutting ones nose off to spite ones face'. (whatever that meant).

I do not need the owners, nor Boris, nor the WHO to tell me that this virus kills people, I have two very old and very good friends now 6foot under from it and they didn't get the send off that all bikers deserve !!!

So I am not meeting for the foreseeable future, I am not going to pubs and I am staying away from most people.

Everyone can choose to do what they want, but just remember you may not get ill - but you may kill granny !!!!!

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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago

South Dublin Area

"Whats the current restrictions in the UK?

In Ireland, 50 people are allowed indoors at any sort of event if they practice social distancing.

Some event organizers are nervous of advertising such an event incase the profile gets banned.

I think swinging events will be hard to keep to social distancing...dont you think?"
Aye but they are happening!

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By *unloversCouple
over a year ago

rotherham

We are not meeting either right now and get so sick of being asked to do so

I still don’t feel safe in this enviroment just yet but some people turn on the attitude charm which then makes me glad we never met them in the first place

Yes lots are meeting and having sex but that’s why things won’t move on cos they can’t bloody wait

Common sense helps

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By *andR510Couple
over a year ago

St Neots/Wisbech

I think its unfair to say that things aren't moving forward because people can't wait.

Loads of clubs are open, and there's been no reported cases from those.

The reason things aren't moving on is because so.e communities are still having 100 plus gatherings in covid rich areas.

Weve had no new cases here in over 14 days now, and I know for a fact that swinging is alive and well in Norfolk.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Think it’s interesting FAB uses the line “ We're standing in solidarity with everyone staying home“ which is clearly not what the public are doing or government policy anymore.

We are choosing not to be site supporters anymore until they support members

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Let's be honest people are meeting on this site for sex. Let's not be naive about this, they are still meeting and playing.

Agreed, but the site isn't the driver.

A friend works in an NHS sexual health clinic.

She has never been as busy as she was during the early stages of lockdown. "

she has some lucky clients then ... in greater glasgow sexual health including contraception is pretty much shut down ... emergency appointments only for people showing symptoms of infection

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

as guidelines are different often in England to Wales, Wales often being more sensible of the two

sorry had to be said lol, will fab consider the different countries rules?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think its unfair to say that things aren't moving forward because people can't wait.

Loads of clubs are open, and there's been no reported cases from those.

The reason things aren't moving on is because so.e communities are still having 100 plus gatherings in covid rich areas.

Weve had no new cases here in over 14 days now, and I know for a fact that swinging is alive and well in Norfolk. "

Some communities? Asian?

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By *uriousTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Think it’s interesting FAB uses the line “ We're standing in solidarity with everyone staying home“ which is clearly not what the public are doing or government policy anymore.

We are choosing not to be site supporters anymore until they support members

Same

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"I think its unfair to say that things aren't moving forward because people can't wait.

Loads of clubs are open, and there's been no reported cases from those.

The reason things aren't moving on is because so.e communities are still having 100 plus gatherings in covid rich areas.

Weve had no new cases here in over 14 days now, and I know for a fact that swinging is alive and well in Norfolk.

Some communities? Asian?"

Some communities go to pubs, some to churches some gather in houses with families etc , the result is the same 1 in 1900 have a virus and some really old/sick people may die a few years earlier

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think its unfair to say that things aren't moving forward because people can't wait.

Loads of clubs are open, and there's been no reported cases from those.

The reason things aren't moving on is because so.e communities are still having 100 plus gatherings in covid rich areas.

Weve had no new cases here in over 14 days now, and I know for a fact that swinging is alive and well in Norfolk.

Some communities? Asian?"

Blaming others is what people in power do. It has happened for centuries. What a bout young white people gathering in their communities, outbin the street, raves and in pubs with no regarded to social distancing, so to blame it on the Asian community is ingenious at best. Boris has been touting this lie as a way to deflect of his own bungling of all this

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge

Fab are free to set whatever rules they like because it's their playground. If you don't like the rules then play somewhere else.

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge

"I think its unfair to say that things aren't moving forward because people can't wait.

Loads of clubs are open, and there's been no reported cases from those.

The reason things aren't moving on is because so.e communities are still having 100 plus gatherings in covid rich areas.

Weve had no new cases here in over 14 days now, and I know for a fact that swinging is alive and well in Norfolk. "

You have to remember that there is less than one infected person per 2000 people in the uk, so a club could open all year and probably not have an infected person through the door. But if they are unlucky you end up with a local spike.

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By *andR510Couple
over a year ago

St Neots/Wisbech

"I think its unfair to say that things aren't moving forward because people can't wait.

Loads of clubs are open, and there's been no reported cases from those.

The reason things aren't moving on is because so.e communities are still having 100 plus gatherings in covid rich areas.

Weve had no new cases here in over 14 days now, and I know for a fact that swinging is alive and well in Norfolk.

So a 0.05% chance of coming into contact with this virus is still a very viable risk ?

Got more chance of being hit by a drink driver on a Saturday night.

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By *inkerbell67Woman
over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

People are meeting there just not broadcasting it ,there not gonna be told they cannot have sex by the government or web sites .

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

leeds

Fab right to keep the rules

Stop being selfish

There's a huge risk of 2nd wave

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Let's be honest people are meeting on this site for sex. Let's not be naive about this, they are still meeting and playing. "

That’s like saying people going to a nightclub are taking drugs therefore the club owner shouldn’t state that any person found taking them will be ejected.

Fab are being responsible, they are covering themselves from any negativity, poor press etc and should be supported in what they are doing.

It’s not the reality, no, but are fab blameless, yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think its unfair to say that things aren't moving forward because people can't wait.

Loads of clubs are open, and there's been no reported cases from those.

The reason things aren't moving on is because so.e communities are still having 100 plus gatherings in covid rich areas.

Weve had no new cases here in over 14 days now, and I know for a fact that swinging is alive and well in Norfolk.

These kind of stats are bollox, look at the age ranges being infected in the main and you’d realise that the chance of infection is much higher for the 20-50’s.

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By *andR510Couple
over a year ago

St Neots/Wisbech

"I think its unfair to say that things aren't moving forward because people can't wait.

Loads of clubs are open, and there's been no reported cases from those.

The reason things aren't moving on is because so.e communities are still having 100 plus gatherings in covid rich areas.

Weve had no new cases here in over 14 days now, and I know for a fact that swinging is alive and well in Norfolk.

These kind of stats are bollox, look at the age ranges being infected in the main and you’d realise that the chance of infection is much higher for the 20-50’s.

Who's talking bollocks now ?

Clearly your research only goes as far as your narrative suits you. Yes its higher than 2-8 year olds, but still significantly remote.

80 people are on ventilator beds in the UK, 75% are predicted to make a full recovery. Thats out of 70 million people, but im assuming you think that stat is also bollocks ?

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