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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-cases-uk-study-074701120.html

Imperial College study suggests 3.4 million people have had it - far more then the 313,000 the government states.

42,000 deaths out of 3.4 million = around 1.5 %

More and more similar figures are coming to light.

Why doesn't the government highlight them ? Answer - because they don't want us to relax about it.

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

Flagrante

Absolutely right...we shouldn't be relaxing.

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights


"https://uk.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-cases-uk-study-074701120.html

Imperial College study suggests 3.4 million people have had it - far more then the 313,000 the government states.

42,000 deaths out of 3.4 million = around 1.5 %

More and more similar figures are coming to light.

Why doesn't the government highlight them ? Answer - because they don't want us to relax about it."

Nothing says that you cannot catch it again, thats why I am not relaxing. The next 6 months is going to be very unpredictable

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"https://uk.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-cases-uk-study-074701120.html

Imperial College study suggests 3.4 million people have had it - far more then the 313,000 the government states.

42,000 deaths out of 3.4 million = around 1.5 %

More and more similar figures are coming to light.

Why doesn't the government highlight them ? Answer - because they don't want us to relax about it."
Yes best not to relax the idea is to get rid of the damn virus

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

The fact we’re not relaxed about it is why the death stats are ‘only’ as ‘low’ as they are.

Not that they are as low as they should be, but when incompetents, fools and criminals are steering the ship, you can’t expect not to hit an iceberg.

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley


"The fact we’re not relaxed about it is why the death stats are ‘only’ as ‘low’ as they are.

Not that they are as low as they should be, but when incompetents, fools and criminals are steering the ship, you can’t expect not to hit an iceberg."

That is most disrespecting of Captain Edward Smith he was neither criminal or a fool!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"The fact we’re not relaxed about it is why the death stats are ‘only’ as ‘low’ as they are.

Not that they are as low as they should be, but when incompetents, fools and criminals are steering the ship, you can’t expect not to hit an iceberg.

That is most disrespecting of Captain Edward Smith he was neither criminal or a fool! "

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By *D835Man
over a year ago

London


"https://uk.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-cases-uk-study-074701120.html

Imperial College study suggests 3.4 million people have had it - far more then the 313,000 the government states.

42,000 deaths out of 3.4 million = around 1.5 %

More and more similar figures are coming to light.

Why doesn't the government highlight them ? Answer - because they don't want us to relax about it."

**”... Imperial College study suggests...”**

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Yeh it’s just a ‘suggestion’ that’s all it is.

We have 313,000 confirmed positive cases. Except we test the whole population we will never know the true number of infections.

Also the number of deaths (42,000) represents the number of people who have died *after* testing positive for covid.

There are thousands of people who have died of covid between December 2019 to March 2020 *before* we started testing. Those deaths are not included in the 42,000.

Bottom line is we will never know the true number of infections nor the true number of deaths.

That might explain why the government is not highlighting those figures; it’s nothing to do with “ because they don't want us to relax about it.”

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Suggests. It's potentially so. We don't know.

Seroprevalance is a difficult thing to measure at this time, even if everyone were surveyed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Read the headline and thought 'yep....that's about right'....then discovered the op meant coronawotsit.....thought op meant jobless figures after this recession

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I m sorry but I think it’s over hyped.

More people die of the flue each year.

King

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I m sorry but I think it’s over hyped.

More people die of the flue each year.

King "

The WHO suggests between 290k and 650k people die annually of influenza.

Covid-19 has killed 700k in six months.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

We're still in the first wave of the virus and it's still fairly stable in terms of how many are getting infected, at a time when summer weather and more time outdoors makes it harder to be caught.

With colder weather and increased time indoors approaching, when other illnesses also rise to attack people, it's not the time to give up.

There are countless threads against lockdown and with stupid conspiracy theories about what's going on. Pointless and disturbing, which is why they are often raised, deserving little regard. Scientific analysis and research evidence based discussions are needed instead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I m sorry but I think it’s over hyped.

More people die of the flue each year.

King

The WHO suggests between 290k and 650k people die annually of influenza.

Covid-19 has killed 700k in six months."

An article I read suggested in the uk 127k per year die of the flue. And to date covid was up to about 60k in 5 months. So no big difference really.

I m also aware of people dying of a heart attack and being listed as covid on the death certificate. So I don’t actually believe the “official “ numbers.

But that’s my view on it.

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By *llabouttheladyMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

We’ll never know the truth because the government don’t want us to.

What we do know is it was kicking about in Europe and no doubt the UK from December onwards, which is data obtained from antibody testing.

We also know from the published statistics that 90% of the death stats are people over 70 with underlying health conditions, the majority of which were in care. The remaining 10% majority of which were overweight, unhealthy, unfit.

No doubt, way more people have had Covid than what has been published.

Don’t forget, the plan is and always has been for most of us to get it anyway.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"I m sorry but I think it’s over hyped.

More people die of the flue each year.

King "

Not in the UK! Look up ONS flu numbers

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"We're still in the first wave of the virus and it's still fairly stable in terms of how many are getting infected, at a time when summer weather and more time outdoors makes it harder to be caught.

With colder weather and increased time indoors approaching, when other illnesses also rise to attack people, it's not the time to give up.

There are countless threads against lockdown and with stupid conspiracy theories about what's going on. Pointless and disturbing, which is why they are often raised, deserving little regard. Scientific analysis and research evidence based discussions are needed instead "

Agreed entirely. The evidence is available, but people don't like it so they seek alternative sources.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"I m sorry but I think it’s over hyped.

More people die of the flue each year.

King

Not in the UK! Look up ONS flu numbers "

1,223 deaths from influenza in 2019

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We’ll never know the truth because the government don’t want us to.

What we do know is it was kicking about in Europe and no doubt the UK from December onwards, which is data obtained from antibody testing.

We also know from the published statistics that 90% of the death stats are people over 70 with underlying health conditions, the majority of which were in care. The remaining 10% majority of which were overweight, unhealthy, unfit.

No doubt, way more people have had Covid than what has been published.

Don’t forget, the plan is and always has been for most of us to get it anyway.

"

Agreed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is an interesting study but am curious about how well antibody tests work. I've read other articles that suggest people who are infected but have low or zero symptoms produce very few antibodies but all have a T Cell response. So am pondering if any antibody test will pick up about 40% of cases?

Anyone know of any scientific papers on this I would be interested.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"I m sorry but I think it’s over hyped.

More people die of the flue each year.

King "

It's a frequently trotted out friend book "fact"

Where are you getting your figures..?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"I m sorry but I think it’s over hyped.

More people die of the flue each year.

King

The WHO suggests between 290k and 650k people die annually of influenza.

Covid-19 has killed 700k in six months.

An article I read suggested in the uk 127k per year die of the flue. And to date covid was up to about 60k in 5 months. So no big difference really.

I m also aware of people dying of a heart attack and being listed as covid on the death certificate. So I don’t actually believe the “official “ numbers.

But that’s my view on it. "

Interesting... Where did you get the 127k number from?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"We’ll never know the truth because the government don’t want us to.

What we do know is it was kicking about in Europe and no doubt the UK from December onwards, which is data obtained from antibody testing.

We also know from the published statistics that 90% of the death stats are people over 70 with underlying health conditions, the majority of which were in care. The remaining 10% majority of which were overweight, unhealthy, unfit.

No doubt, way more people have had Covid than what has been published.

Don’t forget, the plan is and always has been for most of us to get it anyway.

"

Yep agree with most of that.. Thing is however that a significant percentage of our population remain old, unfit, overweight and unhealthy... So we need to try and manage the spread of the virus. It's in all of our interests.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I m sorry but I think it’s over hyped.

More people die of the flue each year.

King

It's a frequently trotted out friend book "fact"

Where are you getting your figures..? "

It was in an article online. I don’t remember the actual outlet it came from. Definitely not fb as I m not on there

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

In 2019 1223 people in England and Wales died of influenza, and 26398 of influenza plus pneumonia.

Source: https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsintheukfromnaturalcausesandinfluenzain2019

So Covid-19 kills many more people. In less time.

You're welcome.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"I m sorry but I think it’s over hyped.

More people die of the flue each year.

King

It's a frequently trotted out friend book "fact"

Where are you getting your figures..?

It was in an article online. I don’t remember the actual outlet it came from. Definitely not fb as I m not on there "

OK so just need to use the right source if you're going to spread rumours. Check the ons numbers as someone else has said... Flu numbers are actually 1 percent of what you quote.... I know we lobe to lock into numbers that support our own theories but the wildly inaccurate ones are just dangerous in the wrong hands.

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By *llabouttheladyMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

What might be an interesting read for some of you is the governments weekly flu report.

This details all the flu outbreaks across the country, and to be honest it’s quite eye opening when you look back over the last few months and compare to recent years.

It’s available online, just google flu report and it’s the top hit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"https://uk.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-cases-uk-study-074701120.html

Imperial College study suggests 3.4 million people have had it - far more then the 313,000 the government states.

42,000 deaths out of 3.4 million = around 1.5 %

More and more similar figures are coming to light.

Why doesn't the government highlight them ? Answer - because they don't want us to relax about it."

You do come out with garbage.

We all know there is a huge difference between confirmed and actual cases of cv19. There are studies available to inform us of estimated numbers. I'm not wasting time on your link as am aware of the Geneva study that would suggest that 11 times confirmed cases is a more realistic number.

The govt cannot hide the results of studies, it's simply up to us to search for and critique them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I m sorry but I think it’s over hyped.

More people die of the flue each year.

King

The WHO suggests between 290k and 650k people die annually of influenza.

Covid-19 has killed 700k in six months.

An article I read suggested in the uk 127k per year die of the flue. And to date covid was up to about 60k in 5 months. So no big difference really.

I m also aware of people dying of a heart attack and being listed as covid on the death certificate. So I don’t actually believe the “official “ numbers.

But that’s my view on it. "

Yes and the flu victims usually go in a 3 month period which we are yet to hit, so think of it like this... covid-19 has killed that amount in a dormant time of the year, what’s going to happen when it’s in the ideal part of the year for infection and fatalities?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"https://uk.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-cases-uk-study-074701120.html

Imperial College study suggests 3.4 million people have had it - far more then the 313,000 the government states.

42,000 deaths out of 3.4 million = around 1.5 %

More and more similar figures are coming to light.

Why doesn't the government highlight them ? Answer - because they don't want us to relax about it."

I think some people are a little too relaxed as it is!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"https://uk.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-cases-uk-study-074701120.html

Imperial College study suggests 3.4 million people have had it - far more then the 313,000 the government states.

42,000 deaths out of 3.4 million = around 1.5 %

More and more similar figures are coming to light.

Why doesn't the government highlight them ? Answer - because they don't want us to relax about it.

I think some people are a little too relaxed as it is! "

Meeeeeeeeeee . I'm keeping that cortisol at bay

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I m sorry but I think it’s over hyped.

More people die of the flue each year.

King "

King, hand the crown to princess, I fear you no longer have the mental sharpness to lead...

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By *tallion and fillyCouple
over a year ago

Barrow in Furness

I'm not into conspiracies as there were and are more than one which could be applied.

But I do think the gov expected this to be far worse than it actually was. Unless that was a scaremongering show with the spare hospitals.

But here is a thing. If it was so rife last Christmas and it was not diagnosed as the covid 19. Why were there not more deaths due to lack off ppe worn and unwell people probably just sat coughing and spluttering at the docs surgery..?

Why are there so many very very densely populated areas virtually untouched? You would think India amd South Africa with townships and alums would be dessimated, but they seem OK.

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By *tallion and fillyCouple
over a year ago

Barrow in Furness

I'm not into conspiracies as there were and are more than one which could be applied.

But I do think the gov expected this to be far worse than it actually was. Unless that was a scaremongering show with the spare hospitals.

But here is a thing. If it was so rife last Christmas and it was not diagnosed as the covid 19. Why were there not more deaths due to lack off ppe worn and unwell people probably just sat coughing and spluttering at the docs surgery..?

Why are there so many very very densely populated areas virtually untouched? You would think India amd South Africa with townships and alums would be dessimated, but they seem OK.

Also, genuinly, the reason the numbers are low is due to most of us not venturing out very far this year. There is no getting away from that. Lock down has stopped spread.

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