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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Any takers for the approved Russian vaccine? .. umm, I think I'll wait!

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Any takers for the approved Russian vaccine? .. umm, I think I'll wait!"

British firm gets close to vaccine.. we are world leaders..look how great we are.

Russian firm gets close to vaccine.. I wouldnt touch that with a barge pole.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We find out side effects from years of testing so I think I will wait.

People who take it could be worse off in a couple of years time when it could cause serious health issues.

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By *eatrice BadinageWoman
over a year ago

In a Sparkly Dress

Its entering a live phase 3 test on the population so time will tell about what side affects crop up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Any takers for the approved Russian vaccine? .. umm, I think I'll wait!

British firm gets close to vaccine.. we are world leaders..look how great we are.

Russian firm gets close to vaccine.. I wouldnt touch that with a barge pole."
if I knew it had been properly tested and gone thru all the trials required then maybe, but no until then i wouldn't touch it with a barge pole and it wouldn't matter who made the vaccine, russia,china,uk, its about proper testing being completed before its given to people is the important bit in my opinion.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I wouldn't take any vaccine without it passing our established processes and having informed and educated myself about it. Thus I'd refuse the Russian 1 just now

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"Any takers for the approved Russian vaccine? .. umm, I think I'll wait!

British firm gets close to vaccine.. we are world leaders..look how great we are.

Russian firm gets close to vaccine.. I wouldnt touch that with a barge pole."

You have no idea how close the Russians really are.

Any UK vaccine will be properly tested and certified, with as much transparency as commerciality will allow.

Can you say the same for this Russian vaccine?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I'll wait to see the process through regulatory processes I believe to work more independently and more in accordance with the science.

If it can pass those at a level we accept in countries like the UK, then I'd likely take it.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

"Any takers for the approved Russian vaccine? .. umm, I think I'll wait!"

Did they offer it to you

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Any takers for the approved Russian vaccine? .. umm, I think I'll wait!

Did they offer it to you "

Yes, but the Novichok label left me cold!

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By *istyblue1967Man
over a year ago

manchester

we ll see how putins daughter is in a few months

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"we ll see how putins daughter is in a few months "

If she actually took it. Who knows what to believe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So many conspiracy theories

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So many conspiracy theories

Putin lies about so many things you can't blame people for being suspicious.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"So many conspiracy theories

Putin lies about so many things you can't blame people for being suspicious."

Did you mean to type boris?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"So many conspiracy theories

Putin lies about so many things you can't blame people for being suspicious.

Did you mean to type boris?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it works in Russia and there is nothing else than yes I’d try it

But I’d insist that it was made by British chemists according to the Russian formula and not bought in wholesale from Russia.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So many conspiracy theories

Putin lies about so many things you can't blame people for being suspicious.

Did you mean to type boris?"

Boris is an arse and quite the liar, but thankfully he doesn't have the control over his country that Putin does.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you were dying and you thought it would give you a chance of life, you'd take it

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If you were dying and you thought it would give you a chance of life, you'd take it"

A vaccine is prevention not a cure

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

The Philippines are going to trail it in October.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you were dying and you thought it would give you a chance of life, you'd take it

A vaccine is prevention not a cure

Good point

If dying, I'd still give it a go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you were dying and you thought it would give you a chance of life, you'd take it

A vaccine is prevention not a cure

Good point

If dying, I'd still give it a go. "

It might be pointless. According to some Covid can't kill you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its entering a live phase 3 test on the population so time will tell about what side affects crop up"

And Rusdia gave approval before stage 3 even started!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So many conspiracy theories

Putin lies about so many things you can't blame people for being suspicious.

Did you mean to type boris?"

Lol

very true. All political leaders are lying and shady at times. Goes with the great game alas .

Though I would probably trust putin more than trump in someways

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is Russia still the big bad? Thought the Cold War ended back in the 90s?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Is Russia still the big bad? Thought the Cold War ended back in the 90s?"

It's not like the Cold War, but they're not necessarily the most trustworthy country out there, and their approval of the drug violates the norms of drug approval.

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By *J647Couple
over a year ago

Daventry

Disappointed, thought this was a bare back thread with Russian rulet ?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Is Russia still the big bad? Thought the Cold War ended back in the 90s?"

Nah we can still blame lots on those evil ruskies.

Apart from the ones who are loaded.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Any takers for the approved Russian vaccine? .. umm, I think I'll wait!"

Wait... it's this not bareback thread?

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By *andR510Couple
over a year ago

St Neots/Wisbech

The swine flu vaccine was pushed through quicker despite the headlines about the dangers of using it.

The UK approved it regardless and people instantly felt better because they were told its safe and gave it to the children in schools.

I suspect that because its Russia based people are instantly calling bs and danger, even though this country has done the same.

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By *iddle ManMan
over a year ago

Walsall

Erm no, I think I'll take my chances.

They wo t even let WHO know what the vaccine entails or the test it. The WHO and relevant bodies have said Russia have cut some many corners for this vaccine, but that's not to say it won't work, they could have got lucky with it. Either way old time will tell with all the vaccines regardless of where they are made. There is so much preassure to get a working vacci e who's to say what side effects there are or long term impact it may have. History is littered with vaccine problems and controversy, Im a believer in vaccination too, just properly tested and proven long term ones.

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By *iddle ManMan
over a year ago

Walsall

Sorry for my poor spelling and general poor post above, it's late and I was ranting

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By *irebird567Woman
over a year ago

near by

We got letters home from school about the actual flu vaccine for the kids to take, this yr, like thats gonna do anything against covid

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We got letters home from school about the actual flu vaccine for the kids to take, this yr, like thats gonna do anything against covid

The idea of the flu vaccine is that people don’t get both that and COVID this coming winter.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Sorry for my poor spelling and general poor post above, it's late and I was ranting

Don't worry, I get particularly bad at writing, spelling etc when tired. I've not seen what you have written but we usually get the general meaning of posts, without having to read each word.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"We got letters home from school about the actual flu vaccine for the kids to take, this yr, like thats gonna do anything against covid

The greater the uptake of the flu vaccines, the closer we could get to herd immunity this winter, which will reduce the impact on hospitals, as well as people who may suffer covid-19 and flu, both of which could weaken them and worse

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By *ickthelick2001Man
over a year ago

nottingham

There is a website called www.drugs.com it lists 24000 prescription drugs and over the counter medicines, it gives a wealth of information regarding side effects, known interactions with other drugs etc.I have copied and pasted what it says about Pandemrix, which was rushed out after the swine flu, it was withdrawn after 6 million doses were administered. as you will see. There was a lot of narcolepsy after the vaccine was rolled out, GSK admitted hiding safety information, there are court cases ongoing still. Oh Sir Patrick Vallance worked for GSK at the time, so he will know all this,

ps, All vaccine manufactures in the UK and USA are indemnified against vaccine injury, also every major vaccine manufacturer have long criminal records for fraud deceit and hiding safety info. So no vaccines for me, thank you

Pandemrix

Active Substance: split influenza virus inactivated, containing antigen equivalent to A/California/07/2009 (H1N1)-derived strain used NYMC X-179A

Common Name: influenza vaccine (H1N1)v (split virion, inactivated, adjuvanted) A/California/7/2009 (H1N1)v like strain (x-179a)

ATC Code: J07BB02

Marketing Authorisation Holder: GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals S.A.

Active Substance: split influenza virus inactivated, containing antigen equivalent to A/California/07/2009 (H1N1)-derived strain used NYMC X-179A

Status: Withdrawn

Authorisation Date: 2008-05-20

Therapeutic Area: Influenza, Human Immunization Disease Outbreaks

Pharmacotherapeutic Group: Influenza vaccines

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By *az080378Woman
over a year ago

Cromer

"There is a website called www.drugs.com it lists 24000 prescription drugs and over the counter medicines, it gives a wealth of information regarding side effects, known interactions with other drugs etc.I have copied and pasted what it says about Pandemrix, which was rushed out after the swine flu, it was withdrawn after 6 million doses were administered. as you will see. There was a lot of narcolepsy after the vaccine was rolled out, GSK admitted hiding safety information, there are court cases ongoing still. Oh Sir Patrick Vallance worked for GSK at the time, so he will know all this,

Pandemrix

Active Substance: split influenza virus inactivated, containing antigen equivalent to A/California/07/2009 (H1N1)-derived strain used NYMC X-179A

Common Name: influenza vaccine (H1N1)v (split virion, inactivated, adjuvanted) A/California/7/2009 (H1N1)v like strain (x-179a)

ATC Code: J07BB02

Marketing Authorisation Holder: GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals S.A.

Active Substance: split influenza virus inactivated, containing antigen equivalent to A/California/07/2009 (H1N1)-derived strain used NYMC X-179A

Status: Withdrawn

Authorisation Date: 2008-05-20

Therapeutic Area: Influenza, Human Immunization Disease Outbreaks

Pharmacotherapeutic Group: Influenza vaccines"

Reading up on it, seems that about 100 people were affected by narcolepsy....

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By *ickthelick2001Man
over a year ago

nottingham

Do a google search for Europe and England, there’s a few more, and uk court cases are still ongoing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is there any medication anywhere that doesn't have side effects ?

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