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By *heblackmac OP   Man
over a year ago

Ladywell, Lewisham.

Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not going to happen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month. "

I’d like to place £10 on the words “wake up people” being used at least three times in this thread please x

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

I doubt people will abide by lockdown as well this time.

People are banging away in clubs drinking in bars as we speak and soaking up rays on the beaches. I don’t see people going quietly back into lockdown.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't believe everything you read.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month.

I’d like to place £10 on the words “wake up people” being used at least three times in this thread please x"

Wake up people!!!! (Give you a head start)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why would we need to go back into lockdown , deaths due to COVID are low , testing is up and local isolation is working , all because some old ex professor says so?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month. "

I hope it does. Life was simpler in lockdown.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month.

I hope it does. Life was simpler in lockdown. "

And who's going to end up paying for all this in the long run

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching."

Talk of shutting pubs so schools can stay open.

I can't wait to see that!

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month.

I hope it does. Life was simpler in lockdown. "

I worked right through and I quite enjoyed it.

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

Entertainment and hospitality places in the hotspot area would shut instead, In order to disperse people congregating and transmission of the virus, its easier to shut the businesses than ask people to social distance in them

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

Talk of shutting pubs so schools can stay open.

I can't wait to see that! "

It's not that simple... Or binary. The 80 year old scientist who is being reported on, said it was down to the lack of any working track and trace process and that serco are running it and not local authorities.

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching."

There has been no case anywhere of a pupil infecting a teacher, children are a no risk. Get the kids back normal to school hours in September.

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By *r. JoystickMan
over a year ago

London


"Why would we need to go back into lockdown , deaths due to COVID are low , testing is up and local isolation is working , all because some old ex professor says so? "

The test-and-trace scheme is atrocious. People (sometimes) get a call and there's no follow-up. How can they say its working?

The R rate will increase when schools open. Mix that in with the fact rates are already increasing in parts of Europe again & you're cooking up a storm. We already ignored what was happening in Europe the first time around - would be foolish to ignore it again (although I wouldn't put it past them.)

People should really expect a small number of lockdowns here and there over time. It's the best way to minimise virus spread.

Not saying it'll happen, mind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month.

I hope it does. Life was simpler in lockdown. "
Yes same here. I liked it more during lockdown too, it was alot calmer outside as well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month.

I hope it does. Life was simpler in lockdown.

I worked right through and I quite enjoyed it. "

Me to pal one day off since it all started I'm not even a key worker

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

Talk of shutting pubs so schools can stay open.

I can't wait to see that! "
Yes, that would be good too

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By *r. JoystickMan
over a year ago

London


"There has been no case anywhere of a pupil infecting a teacher, children are a no risk. Get the kids back normal to school hours in September. "

Why flat out lie? My sister and my friend are a teacher and both know fellow teachers who had had to leave school as a result of becoming ill whilst at school.

There's no confirmation that it was definitively a pupil as they barely tested anyone at the time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

Talk of shutting pubs so schools can stay open.

I can't wait to see that!

It's not that simple... Or binary. The 80 year old scientist who is being reported on, said it was down to the lack of any working track and trace process and that serco are running it and not local authorities. "

I read yesterday that some local authorities are running their own track and trace systems.

If people don't leave true contact details, no system will work.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month.

I’d like to place £10 on the words “wake up people” being used at least three times in this thread please x"

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen

That'll kill some more then as the Government's own report, that they put out last week, shows that the lockdown killed two people for every three that died of COVID-19 by the beginning of May.

However, when you take into account the age of those who died from coronavirus, as well as their underlying health conditions, the loss of life as measured in Quality Adjusted Life Years, or Qalys, for those who died as a result of the lockdown was greater than it was for those who died of COVID-19. This is how the authors of the report put it:

The direct COVID-19 deaths account for the majority of all excess deaths. However, when morbidity is taken into account, the estimates for the health impacts from a lockdown and lockdown induced recession are greater in terms of QALYs than the direct

COVID-19 deaths.

Much of the health impact, particularly in terms of morbidity, will be felt long after the pandemic is assumed to last.

No one seems to be bothering about the collateral damage at all. Just wait for the excess deaths from the economic collapse and the ensuing mental health problems as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

There has been no case anywhere of a pupil infecting a teacher, children are a no risk. Get the kids back normal to school hours in September. "

You mean no known case.

Children appear to be less at risk at developing severe reactions to cv19.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That'll kill some more then as the Government's own report, that they put out last week, shows that the lockdown killed two people for every three that died of COVID-19 by the beginning of May.

However, when you take into account the age of those who died from coronavirus, as well as their underlying health conditions, the loss of life as measured in Quality Adjusted Life Years, or Qalys, for those who died as a result of the lockdown was greater than it was for those who died of COVID-19. This is how the authors of the report put it:

The direct COVID-19 deaths account for the majority of all excess deaths. However, when morbidity is taken into account, the estimates for the health impacts from a lockdown and lockdown induced recession are greater in terms of QALYs than the direct

COVID-19 deaths.

Much of the health impact, particularly in terms of morbidity, will be felt long after the pandemic is assumed to last.

No one seems to be bothering about the collateral damage at all. Just wait for the excess deaths from the economic collapse and the ensuing mental health problems as well."

They should lockdown all the over 55 year olds and let the rest of us get on and enjoy our lives.

The oldies have no quality of life left in them. They just make the young people depressed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That'll kill some more then as the Government's own report, that they put out last week, shows that the lockdown killed two people for every three that died of COVID-19 by the beginning of May.

However, when you take into account the age of those who died from coronavirus, as well as their underlying health conditions, the loss of life as measured in Quality Adjusted Life Years, or Qalys, for those who died as a result of the lockdown was greater than it was for those who died of COVID-19. This is how the authors of the report put it:

The direct COVID-19 deaths account for the majority of all excess deaths. However, when morbidity is taken into account, the estimates for the health impacts from a lockdown and lockdown induced recession are greater in terms of QALYs than the direct

COVID-19 deaths.

Much of the health impact, particularly in terms of morbidity, will be felt long after the pandemic is assumed to last.

No one seems to be bothering about the collateral damage at all. Just wait for the excess deaths from the economic collapse and the ensuing mental health problems as well."

You do realise that QALY are not deaths?

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month. "

Former scientist?

'Could' go back?

Think a large pinch of salt needs to be added to that headline.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Cant see it tbh.

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

There has been no case anywhere of a pupil infecting a teacher, children are a no risk. Get the kids back normal to school hours in September. "

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That'll kill some more then as the Government's own report, that they put out last week, shows that the lockdown killed two people for every three that died of COVID-19 by the beginning of May.

However, when you take into account the age of those who died from coronavirus, as well as their underlying health conditions, the loss of life as measured in Quality Adjusted Life Years, or Qalys, for those who died as a result of the lockdown was greater than it was for those who died of COVID-19. This is how the authors of the report put it:

The direct COVID-19 deaths account for the majority of all excess deaths. However, when morbidity is taken into account, the estimates for the health impacts from a lockdown and lockdown induced recession are greater in terms of QALYs than the direct

COVID-19 deaths.

Much of the health impact, particularly in terms of morbidity, will be felt long after the pandemic is assumed to last.

No one seems to be bothering about the collateral damage at all. Just wait for the excess deaths from the economic collapse and the ensuing mental health problems as well.

You do realise that QALY are not deaths? "

In an ideal world we'd like people to live as long as they do without quality of life being reduced. Unfortunately many chronic diseases are managed leading to longer lives but not necessarily extending a decent quality. This is nothing new and yes cv19 will have a longer term health effect than the duration of the pandemic.

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

Club Meets Only


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

There has been no case anywhere of a pupil infecting a teacher, children are a no risk. Get the kids back normal to school hours in September. "

4 schools were closed in Blackpool for kids being tested positive. I hope they don't open the schools yet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That'll kill some more then as the Government's own report, that they put out last week, shows that the lockdown killed two people for every three that died of COVID-19 by the beginning of May.

However, when you take into account the age of those who died from coronavirus, as well as their underlying health conditions, the loss of life as measured in Quality Adjusted Life Years, or Qalys, for those who died as a result of the lockdown was greater than it was for those who died of COVID-19. This is how the authors of the report put it:

The direct COVID-19 deaths account for the majority of all excess deaths. However, when morbidity is taken into account, the estimates for the health impacts from a lockdown and lockdown induced recession are greater in terms of QALYs than the direct

COVID-19 deaths.

Much of the health impact, particularly in terms of morbidity, will be felt long after the pandemic is assumed to last.

No one seems to be bothering about the collateral damage at all. Just wait for the excess deaths from the economic collapse and the ensuing mental health problems as well."

The government report very clearly stated 16,000...

10,000 from the care sector who have suffered life expectancy shortening due to limited service.

6,000 which is accounted by late or mid diagnosis through people’s failure to attend ED’s

So at best that’s 1 in 3, but in reality it means the balance of the surplus are likely covid so it’s more probable to be 1 in 4. For clarity though the 10,000 would all be classed as terminally ill and are in end of life management.

To borrow your phrase... Wake Up People! X

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


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They should lockdown all the over 55 year olds and let the rest of us get on and enjoy our lives.

The oldies have no quality of life left in them. They just make the young people depressed. "

Smart move that.

They young people will be even more depressed when everything they take for granted stops working because the people with all the experience and knowledge are shut away.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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They should lockdown all the over 55 year olds and let the rest of us get on and enjoy our lives.

The oldies have no quality of life left in them. They just make the young people depressed.

Smart move that.

They young people will be even more depressed when everything they take for granted stops working because the people with all the experience and knowledge are shut away."

Hahahaha whit. Fuck up Boomer.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

There's probably a reason why he's a 'former' advisor.

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By *r. JoystickMan
over a year ago

London


" They young people will be even more depressed when everything they take for granted stops working because the people with all the experience and knowledge are shut away."

What a hot take! Where's the clown emojii when you need it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

They should lockdown all the over 55 year olds and let the rest of us get on and enjoy our lives.

The oldies have no quality of life left in them. They just make the young people depressed.

Smart move that.

They young people will be even more depressed when everything they take for granted stops working because the people with all the experience and knowledge are shut away.

Hahahaha whit. Fuck up Boomer. "

Ikr

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

There has been no case anywhere of a pupil infecting a teacher, children are a no risk. Get the kids back normal to school hours in September. "

The virology blog, article 30 July 2020, "Children Transmit SARS-CoV-2".

You're welcome

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Children's education is disrupted, health is in jeopardy among many, a huge swathe of the population of all ages find themselves vulnerable, the NHS are overworked heading into winter, the economy is struggling.

But masks are icky. Wanna go to the pub.

Wake up people

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By *r. JoystickMan
over a year ago

London

You mean Sir David King?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_King_(chemist)

Probably the fact he's bloody 80 years old.

Take a look at this career and disregard his views if you so please

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By *r. JoystickMan
over a year ago

London


"There's probably a reason why he's a 'former' advisor. "

Fail reply to the above quote.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"You mean Sir David King?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_King_(chemist)

Probably the fact he's bloody 80 years old.

Take a look at this career and disregard his views if you so please "

He's bloody brilliant on Indy Sage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I need one more “wake up people” for my payout...

Come on Fabbers, don’t let me down

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I need one more “wake up people” for my payout...

Come on Fabbers, don’t let me down"

It might be Sunday, but it's nearly 2pm.

Wake up people

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry


"I need one more “wake up people” for my payout...

Come on Fabbers, don’t let me down"

Sheeple, it's Wake up sheeple.........Bloody amateurs

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By *ess n BenCouple
over a year ago

Didcot

Hope lockdown comes back, won’t have all traffic in our town again !!

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"There's probably a reason why he's a 'former' advisor.

Fail reply to the above quote. "

Doesn't change my answer at all. There's still a reason he's no longer an advisor.

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By *r. JoystickMan
over a year ago

London


"There's probably a reason why he's a 'former' advisor.

Fail reply to the above quote.

Doesn't change my answer at all. There's still a reason he's no longer an advisor. "

What's the reason? Please enlighten us x

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"There's probably a reason why he's a 'former' advisor.

Fail reply to the above quote.

Doesn't change my answer at all. There's still a reason he's no longer an advisor.

What's the reason? Please enlighten us x"

Did I say I knew? Nope, I just said there's probably a reason. Go pick a fight elsewhere, I'm not interested.

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By *r. JoystickMan
over a year ago

London

Not sure how your comment added to the conversation in that case, but no bother.

Have a lovely sunny day!

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"Not sure how your comment added to the conversation in that case, but no bother.

Have a lovely sunny day! "

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month. "
He probably thinks Brexit will be a disaster to read this and the negativity is unreal.

He could be right but more like to be wrong due to many other factors

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry


"There's probably a reason why he's a 'former' advisor.

Fail reply to the above quote.

Doesn't change my answer at all. There's still a reason he's no longer an advisor.

What's the reason? Please enlighten us x

Did I say I knew? Nope, I just said there's probably a reason. Go pick a fight elsewhere, I'm not interested. "

The inference is pretty clear in your statement as was the purpose.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"There's probably a reason why he's a 'former' advisor.

Fail reply to the above quote.

Doesn't change my answer at all. There's still a reason he's no longer an advisor.

What's the reason? Please enlighten us x

Did I say I knew? Nope, I just said there's probably a reason. Go pick a fight elsewhere, I'm not interested.

The inference is pretty clear in your statement as was the purpose. "

I said probably, meaning it's likely but I wasn't positive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

Talk of shutting pubs so schools can stay open.

I can't wait to see that! "

A trade id make without reservation.

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By *hatterbox 2Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

the country cant afford to go bk on lockdown financially we would be fucked

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By *erry bull1Man
over a year ago

doncaster


"That'll kill some more then as the Government's own report, that they put out last week, shows that the lockdown killed two people for every three that died of COVID-19 by the beginning of May.

However, when you take into account the age of those who died from coronavirus, as well as their underlying health conditions, the loss of life as measured in Quality Adjusted Life Years, or Qalys, for those who died as a result of the lockdown was greater than it was for those who died of COVID-19. This is how the authors of the report put it:

The direct COVID-19 deaths account for the majority of all excess deaths. However, when morbidity is taken into account, the estimates for the health impacts from a lockdown and lockdown induced recession are greater in terms of QALYs than the direct

COVID-19 deaths.

Much of the health impact, particularly in terms of morbidity, will be felt long after the pandemic is assumed to last.

No one seems to be bothering about the collateral damage at all. Just wait for the excess deaths from the economic collapse and the ensuing mental health problems as well.

They should lockdown all the over 55 year olds and let the rest of us get on and enjoy our lives.

The oldies have no quality of life left in them. They just make the young people depressed. "
just look back at to March when the country went into lockdown , no toilet tolls and food shortage in the shops , the shops were restocked due to lorry drivers still working who are over the age of 55 , ppe to hospitals , again lorry drivers over 55 , let’s hope they lock people over 55 down . Then see what happens when there’s no food etc in the shops , I look forward to a rest while the younger generation complain that they can’t get their Mac Donald’s or what other trash they eat , rant over stay safe

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By *ee And MikeCouple
over a year ago

Cannock

Yes, let’s all go on another lockdown and fuck the country up totally !

20 million unemployed and people queuing around the block, not to get in a supermarket but for a food bank.

Never mind the NHS marching yesterday asking for more wages, half of them will be lucky to have jobs if we have mass unemployment and no taxes coming in to find it !

This country is in a furlough blanket wrapped bubble that’s going to burst in October with potentially mass unemployment, all you will hear then is ‘why wasn’t we told this would happen, we would have gone back to work sooner’.

Make no mistake, if people don’t get their arses into gear and start learning to live with this virus then the economic devastation will be unrepairable for years to come !!!!!

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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria


" They young people will be even more depressed when everything they take for granted stops working because the people with all the experience and knowledge are shut away.

What a hot take! Where's the clown emojii when you need it? "

I’m with him, seems they stopped teaching life skills and common sense in schools about 20 years or so ago, can’t get a tradesman for love nor money that’s does a decent job these days, probably why all the UK industry is being shipped out abroad more and more each year.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" They young people will be even more depressed when everything they take for granted stops working because the people with all the experience and knowledge are shut away.

What a hot take! Where's the clown emojii when you need it?

I’m with him, seems they stopped teaching life skills and common sense in schools about 20 years or so ago, can’t get a tradesman for love nor money that’s does a decent job these days, probably why all the UK industry is being shipped out abroad more and more each year. "

They had to make room for the module on deconstructivist perspectives on colonial imperialism and to go through the gender thesaurus. Something had to go mate, sorry.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


" They young people will be even more depressed when everything they take for granted stops working because the people with all the experience and knowledge are shut away.

What a hot take! Where's the clown emojii when you need it?

I’m with him, seems they stopped teaching life skills and common sense in schools about 20 years or so ago, can’t get a tradesman for love nor money that’s does a decent job these days, probably why all the UK industry is being shipped out abroad more and more each year.

They had to make room for the module on deconstructivist perspectives on colonial imperialism and to go through the gender thesaurus. Something had to go mate, sorry. "

It's a shame your imperialist model of pedagogical methods is no longer congruent with current ideas and you struggle to maintain contemporaneous models of understanding. Kids generally do better, fortunately.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


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They should lockdown all the over 55 year olds and let the rest of us get on and enjoy our lives.

The oldies have no quality of life left in them. They just make the young people depressed. "

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By *rego69Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Seen on a status update of someone local to me today.

...... Looking to get to know people with a view to meeting as social distancing dies off!

Hope that’s not a Freudian slip

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month. "

Key word in your OP

"Former" as in not got a say, not got any influence....probably not got a clue!

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By *ustfun 1984Man
over a year ago

exeter


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

There has been no case anywhere of a pupil infecting a teacher, children are a no risk. Get the kids back normal to school hours in September. "

Children no risk?? Tell that to the 7 year old parents who died last week the risk is not just the old etc

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

Its amazing how some just believe everything the media say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month.

I hope it does. Life was simpler in lockdown.

I worked right through and I quite enjoyed it. "
I worked right through and loved it 1 hour 15 to reditich driving steady, centre of Manchester in an hour normally a 2 hour drive either lock down or every one other than me needs to work from home and don't get me started on the absaloute fucking knobs that are in the roads all of a sudden who don't seem to even realise they are driving a car let alone what indicators are.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"

Hahahaha whit. Fuck up Boomer. "

I only speak English.

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By *ancs_tgirl_38TV/TS
over a year ago

Blackpool

It won't

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month. "

I see riots in the streets, business closing down, the unemployment line getting longer, mental health getting worse, family braking up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

They should lockdown all the over 55 year olds and let the rest of us get on and enjoy our lives.

The oldies have no quality of life left in them. They just make the young people depressed.

Smart move that.

They young people will be even more depressed when everything they take for granted stops working because the people with all the experience and knowledge are shut away."
How true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

They should lockdown all the over 55 year olds and let the rest of us get on and enjoy our lives.

The oldies have no quality of life left in them. They just make the young people depressed.

Smart move that.

They young people will be even more depressed when everything they take for granted stops working because the people with all the experience and knowledge are shut away. How true "

Oh good another fucking one. Why does your entire generation think people actually need you for anything

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple


"That'll kill some more then as the Government's own report, that they put out last week, shows that the lockdown killed two people for every three that died of COVID-19 by the beginning of May.

However, when you take into account the age of those who died from coronavirus, as well as their underlying health conditions, the loss of life as measured in Quality Adjusted Life Years, or Qalys, for those who died as a result of the lockdown was greater than it was for those who died of COVID-19. This is how the authors of the report put it:

The direct COVID-19 deaths account for the majority of all excess deaths. However, when morbidity is taken into account, the estimates for the health impacts from a lockdown and lockdown induced recession are greater in terms of QALYs than the direct

COVID-19 deaths.

Much of the health impact, particularly in terms of morbidity, will be felt long after the pandemic is assumed to last.

No one seems to be bothering about the collateral damage at all. Just wait for the excess deaths from the economic collapse and the ensuing mental health problems as well.

They should lockdown all the over 55 year olds and let the rest of us get on and enjoy our lives.

The oldies have no quality of life left in them. They just make the young people depressed. "

Hidden yourself ! About right

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month.

I hope it does. Life was simpler in lockdown.

And who's going to end up paying for all this in the long run"

Taxpayers?

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island


"Yes, let’s all go on another lockdown and fuck the country up totally !

20 million unemployed and people queuing around the block, not to get in a supermarket but for a food bank.

Never mind the NHS marching yesterday asking for more wages, half of them will be lucky to have jobs if we have mass unemployment and no taxes coming in to find it !

This country is in a furlough blanket wrapped bubble that’s going to burst in October with potentially mass unemployment, all you will hear then is ‘why wasn’t we told this would happen, we would have gone back to work sooner’.

Make no mistake, if people don’t get their arses into gear and start learning to live with this virus then the economic devastation will be unrepairable for years to come !!!!!"

Here, here. Total agreement.

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

There has been no case anywhere of a pupil infecting a teacher, children are a no risk. Get the kids back normal to school hours in September.

Children no risk?? Tell that to the 7 year old parents who died last week the risk is not just the old etc "
so you're saying that because one 7 year old died in Georgia, USA we should keep schools closed. I'm assuming since you are searching internationally for your justifications, you are suggesting all schools worldwide should remain closed.

As for the post about a friend of a friend caught something at school from somebody. Seriously?

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

It probably should be but it won't be.

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By *D835Man
over a year ago

London


"It probably should be but it won't be. "

I agree, it’s Very unlikely we will have another national lockdown.

We will just have local lockdowns, or certain sectors of the economy will be shut at national level. But we will not have everything shut everywhere like we did in March.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"

They should lockdown all the over 55 year olds and let the rest of us get on and enjoy our lives.

The oldies have no quality of life left in them. They just make the young people depressed.

Smart move that.

They young people will be even more depressed when everything they take for granted stops working because the people with all the experience and knowledge are shut away. How true

Oh good another fucking one. Why does your entire generation think people actually need you for anything"

Why do some people of your age think you know everything that you won't need help from another person one day

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By *ustfun 1984Man
over a year ago

exeter


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

There has been no case anywhere of a pupil infecting a teacher, children are a no risk. Get the kids back normal to school hours in September.

Children no risk?? Tell that to the 7 year old parents who died last week the risk is not just the old etc so you're saying that because one 7 year old died in Georgia, USA we should keep schools closed. I'm assuming since you are searching internationally for your justifications, you are suggesting all schools worldwide should remain closed.

As for the post about a friend of a friend caught something at school from somebody. Seriously?"

5 children under the age of 18 have do far died from covid n the uk that isn't international is it

Age isn't a factor to this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Problem is when the schools do reopen, parents will have wrapped them up in cotton wool so much, they will go and do what they want when parents aren't there, just look at how colds etc spike during the first weeks of schools. The pubs etc, this won't be popular, should be closed to allow monitoring to be increased in schools, and let the kids not loose out due to adults inability to be responsible.

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

There has been no case anywhere of a pupil infecting a teacher, children are a no risk. Get the kids back normal to school hours in September.

Children no risk?? Tell that to the 7 year old parents who died last week the risk is not just the old etc so you're saying that because one 7 year old died in Georgia, USA we should keep schools closed. I'm assuming since you are searching internationally for your justifications, you are suggesting all schools worldwide should remain closed.

As for the post about a friend of a friend caught something at school from somebody. Seriously?

5 children under the age of 18 have do far died from covid n the uk that isn't international is it

Age isn't a factor to this "

Around 40,000 people have died with covid, 5 of them were under 18. How can you say age isn't a factor?

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By *ustfun 1984Man
over a year ago

exeter


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

There has been no case anywhere of a pupil infecting a teacher, children are a no risk. Get the

kids back normal to school hours in September.

Children no risk?? Tell that to the 7 year old parents who died last week the risk is not just the old etc so you're saying that because one 7 year old died in Georgia, USA we should keep schools closed. I'm assuming since you are searching internationally for your justifications, you are suggesting all schools worldwide should remain closed.

As for the post about a friend of a friend caught something at school from somebody. Seriously?

5 children under the age of 18 have do far died from covid n the uk that isn't international is it

Age isn't a factor to this

Around 40,000 people have died with covid, 5 of them were under 18. How can you say age isn't a factor?"

Because the range of them 40,000 isn't just limited to a certain age group etc

Ranges from young to old all ages in between fit or underlying conditions covid really isn't fussy.

as the schools broke up not long after lockdown maybe that helped with under 18 death rate until schools go back to full compliance

We wont see true number..

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month.

I hope it does. Life was simpler in lockdown.

And who's going to end up paying for all this in the long run

Taxpayers? "

Baraycard? That's how it works right?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

*barclaycard! Bloody education system

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

There has been no case anywhere of a pupil infecting a teacher, children are a no risk. Get the

kids back normal to school hours in September.

Children no risk?? Tell that to the 7 year old parents who died last week the risk is not just the old etc so you're saying that because one 7 year old died in Georgia, USA we should keep schools closed. I'm assuming since you are searching internationally for your justifications, you are suggesting all schools worldwide should remain closed.

As for the post about a friend of a friend caught something at school from somebody. Seriously?

5 children under the age of 18 have do far died from covid n the uk that isn't international is it

Age isn't a factor to this

Around 40,000 people have died with covid, 5 of them were under 18. How can you say age isn't a factor?

Because the range of them 40,000 isn't just limited to a certain age group etc

Ranges from young to old all ages in between fit or underlying conditions covid really isn't fussy.

as the schools broke up not long after lockdown maybe that helped with under 18 death rate until schools go back to full compliance

We wont see true number.."

The single biggest predictor, worldwide, of Covid related death is age. Mainly being over 65. The next biggest predictors are diabetes, cardiovascular disease and kidney disease. The problem is that there are many apparently healthy people with "no underlying health condition" who actually have pre diabetes and/or mild cardiovascular disease eg atherosclerosis. Pretty much anyone over 65 will have some level of cardiovascular changes, irrespective of their diet, exercise ref etc, because the simple fact is blood vessels get less flexible as you age. Diabetes involves cardiovascular changes and affects the kidneys and there are plenty of people, often overweight (including children) who are undiagnosed with early or pre diabetes.

The number of children under 18 who have died of Covid worldwide is a tiny, tiny percentage of the total. It's not good, obviously, but children are overwhelmingly safe from serious disease. The risks of keeping them cooped up, under educated, under socialised are far higher in the long run.

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By *ustfun 1984Man
over a year ago

exeter


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

There has been no case anywhere of a pupil infecting a teacher, children are a no risk. Get the

kids back normal to school hours in September.

Children no risk?? Tell that to the 7 year old parents who died last week the risk is not just the old etc so you're saying that because one 7 year old died in Georgia, USA we should keep schools closed. I'm assuming since you are searching internationally for your justifications, you are suggesting all schools worldwide should remain closed.

As for the post about a friend of a friend caught something at school from somebody. Seriously?

5 children under the age of 18 have do far died from covid n the uk that isn't international is it

Age isn't a factor to this

Around 40,000 people have died with covid, 5 of them were under 18. How can you say age isn't a factor?

Because the range of them 40,000 isn't just limited to a certain age group etc

Ranges from young to old all ages in between fit or underlying conditions covid really isn't fussy.

as the schools broke up not long after lockdown maybe that helped with under 18 death rate until schools go back to full compliance

We wont see true number..

The single biggest predictor, worldwide, of Covid related death is age. Mainly being over 65. The next biggest predictors are diabetes, cardiovascular disease and kidney disease. The problem is that there are many apparently healthy people with "no underlying health condition" who actually have pre diabetes and/or mild cardiovascular disease eg atherosclerosis. Pretty much anyone over 65 will have some level of cardiovascular changes, irrespective of their diet, exercise ref etc, because the simple fact is blood vessels get less flexible as you age. Diabetes involves cardiovascular changes and affects the kidneys and there are plenty of people, often overweight (including children) who are undiagnosed with early or pre diabetes.

The number of children under 18 who have died of Covid worldwide is a tiny, tiny percentage of the total. It's not good, obviously, but children are overwhelmingly safe from serious disease. The risks of keeping them cooped up, under educated, under socialised are far higher in the long run. "

I am not doubting that but there is still a risk in children all be it a small one but still a risk let's see if pubs have to close for schools to stay open what peoples options will be then of keeping these kids cooped up

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By *ustfun 1984Man
over a year ago

exeter


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

There has been no case anywhere of a pupil infecting a teacher, children are a no risk. Get the

kids back normal to school hours in September.

Children no risk?? Tell that to the 7 year old parents who died last week the risk is not just the old etc so you're saying that because one 7 year old died in Georgia, USA we should keep schools closed. I'm assuming since you are searching internationally for your justifications, you are suggesting all schools worldwide should remain closed.

As for the post about a friend of a friend caught something at school from somebody. Seriously?

5 children under the age of 18 have do far died from covid n the uk that isn't international is it

Age isn't a factor to this

Around 40,000 people have died with covid, 5 of them were under 18. How can you say age isn't a factor?

Because the range of them 40,000 isn't just limited to a certain age group etc

Ranges from young to old all ages in between fit or underlying conditions covid really isn't fussy.

as the schools broke up not long after lockdown maybe that helped with under 18 death rate until schools go back to full compliance

We wont see true number..

The single biggest predictor, worldwide, of Covid related death is age. Mainly being over 65. The next biggest predictors are diabetes, cardiovascular disease and kidney disease. The problem is that there are many apparently healthy people with "no underlying health condition" who actually have pre diabetes and/or mild cardiovascular disease eg atherosclerosis. Pretty much anyone over 65 will have some level of cardiovascular changes, irrespective of their diet, exercise ref etc, because the simple fact is blood vessels get less flexible as you age. Diabetes involves cardiovascular changes and affects the kidneys and there are plenty of people, often overweight (including children) who are undiagnosed with early or pre diabetes.

The number of children under 18 who have died of Covid worldwide is a tiny, tiny percentage of the total. It's not good, obviously, but children are overwhelmingly safe from serious disease. The risks of keeping them cooped up, under educated, under socialised are far higher in the long run.

I am not doubting that but there is still a risk in children all be it a small one but still a risk let's see if pubs have to close for schools to stay open what peoples options will be then of keeping these kids cooped up "

Opinions should of said **

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Just out of interest... And preface with I may have misunderstood the ons data... But having a quick poke around the latest ons data....

There are lots of "interesting" observations... Only 2 I want to highlight... 1)Men are 50 percent more likely to die of covid than women.

2) 90 percent of male deaths and 95 percent of female deaths from covid were aged 65 or above.

I'm an advocate of firm measures and enforcement but it seems there is some merit in managing the over 65s better and letting the under 65s be alert and getting on with things a bit more.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Just out of interest... And preface with I may have misunderstood the ons data... But having a quick poke around the latest ons data....

There are lots of "interesting" observations... Only 2 I want to highlight... 1)Men are 50 percent more likely to die of covid than women.

2) 90 percent of male deaths and 95 percent of female deaths from covid were aged 65 or above.

I'm an advocate of firm measures and enforcement but it seems there is some merit in managing the over 65s better and letting the under 65s be alert and getting on with things a bit more. "

One further addition...of note.. Over 90 per cent of covid deaths were for people with at least one other preexisting condition.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

There has been no case anywhere of a pupil infecting a teacher, children are a no risk. Get the

kids back normal to school hours in September.

Children no risk?? Tell that to the 7 year old parents who died last week the risk is not just the old etc so you're saying that because one 7 year old died in Georgia, USA we should keep schools closed. I'm assuming since you are searching internationally for your justifications, you are suggesting all schools worldwide should remain closed.

As for the post about a friend of a friend caught something at school from somebody. Seriously?

5 children under the age of 18 have do far died from covid n the uk that isn't international is it

Age isn't a factor to this

Around 40,000 people have died with covid, 5 of them were under 18. How can you say age isn't a factor?

Because the range of them 40,000 isn't just limited to a certain age group etc

Ranges from young to old all ages in between fit or underlying conditions covid really isn't fussy.

as the schools broke up not long after lockdown maybe that helped with under 18 death rate until schools go back to full compliance

We wont see true number..

The single biggest predictor, worldwide, of Covid related death is age. Mainly being over 65. The next biggest predictors are diabetes, cardiovascular disease and kidney disease. The problem is that there are many apparently healthy people with "no underlying health condition" who actually have pre diabetes and/or mild cardiovascular disease eg atherosclerosis. Pretty much anyone over 65 will have some level of cardiovascular changes, irrespective of their diet, exercise ref etc, because the simple fact is blood vessels get less flexible as you age. Diabetes involves cardiovascular changes and affects the kidneys and there are plenty of people, often overweight (including children) who are undiagnosed with early or pre diabetes.

The number of children under 18 who have died of Covid worldwide is a tiny, tiny percentage of the total. It's not good, obviously, but children are overwhelmingly safe from serious disease. The risks of keeping them cooped up, under educated, under socialised are far higher in the long run. "

You make a great point.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

There has been no case anywhere of a pupil infecting a teacher, children are a no risk. Get the

kids back normal to school hours in September.

Children no risk?? Tell that to the 7 year old parents who died last week the risk is not just the old etc so you're saying that because one 7 year old died in Georgia, USA we should keep schools closed. I'm assuming since you are searching internationally for your justifications, you are suggesting all schools worldwide should remain closed.

As for the post about a friend of a friend caught something at school from somebody. Seriously?

5 children under the age of 18 have do far died from covid n the uk that isn't international is it

Age isn't a factor to this

Around 40,000 people have died with covid, 5 of them were under 18. How can you say age isn't a factor?

Because the range of them 40,000 isn't just limited to a certain age group etc

Ranges from young to old all ages in between fit or underlying conditions covid really isn't fussy.

as the schools broke up not long after lockdown maybe that helped with under 18 death rate until schools go back to full compliance

We wont see true number..

The single biggest predictor, worldwide, of Covid related death is age. Mainly being over 65. The next biggest predictors are diabetes, cardiovascular disease and kidney disease. The problem is that there are many apparently healthy people with "no underlying health condition" who actually have pre diabetes and/or mild cardiovascular disease eg atherosclerosis. Pretty much anyone over 65 will have some level of cardiovascular changes, irrespective of their diet, exercise ref etc, because the simple fact is blood vessels get less flexible as you age. Diabetes involves cardiovascular changes and affects the kidneys and there are plenty of people, often overweight (including children) who are undiagnosed with early or pre diabetes.

The number of children under 18 who have died of Covid worldwide is a tiny, tiny percentage of the total. It's not good, obviously, but children are overwhelmingly safe from serious disease. The risks of keeping them cooped up, under educated, under socialised are far higher in the long run.

I am not doubting that but there is still a risk in children all be it a small one but still a risk let's see if pubs have to close for schools to stay open what peoples options will be then of keeping these kids cooped up

Opinions should of said **"

There is never no risk though. A child might catch another respiratory bug and become very ill or die from it. Influenza vaccines are given to the youngest and oldest in society for a reason. My eldest was exceptionally ill with pneumonia, possibly another type of coronavirus, back in the early 2000s and he could easily have died. However, the risk to children from this virus is no more than any other yet the potential long term health implications for no/little exercise, lack of social opportunities, lack of general interactions with people of all age groups (critical for cognitive development) and lack of education are huge. We can't have the next generation lacking in fundamental education because they will be the long term blip in employment opportunities, in between the slightly older and slightly younger groups who will have been properly educated. I'm in the age group who graduated into the 2008 recession and my wages continue to be lower than the people 10yrs ahead of me, when they were at the same stage of their careers. That's because we started out on suppressed wages and we've continued from there ever since. Suppressed in comparison to where they would have been without the recession.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes, let’s all go on another lockdown and fuck the country up totally !

20 million unemployed and people queuing around the block, not to get in a supermarket but for a food bank.

Never mind the NHS marching yesterday asking for more wages, half of them will be lucky to have jobs if we have mass unemployment and no taxes coming in to find it !

This country is in a furlough blanket wrapped bubble that’s going to burst in October with potentially mass unemployment, all you will hear then is ‘why wasn’t we told this would happen, we would have gone back to work sooner’.

Make no mistake, if people don’t get their arses into gear and start learning to live with this virus then the economic devastation will be unrepairable for years to come !!!!!"

Both the chancellor & the Bank of England have said furlough is ending in October

The country is in nearly 2 trillion in debt

We can’t borrow more money as we can’t pay the mortgage

As of Q1 (the first quarter of) , UK debt amounted to £1.78 trillion, or 86.58% of total GDP, at which time the annual cost of servicing (paying the interest) the public debt amounted to around £48 billion (which is roughly 4% of GDP or 8% of UK government tax income).

That’s a debt of £33,000 per employed person

If massive unemployment happens we can’t finance the interest with more loans.

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

Professor A says its B.

Professor B says 'Ay'?

Professor C isn't yet famous so he'll say anything to be so.

Professor Fergusson was a 'bit' famous and isn't now so he will say anything to be famous again.

Professor Popkiss is too busy with SuperCar and Brains is just a Puppet so he'll say anything anyone wants him to.

Everyone has an opinion and much of it isn't science and even if it was mostly it's still just a guess.

Statistics is a Science but not one practiced very often by Scientists.

They can't even properly postulate the theory never mind begin a route to a clear answer.

It's all right, but mostly it's actually all wrong.

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By *un and Frolics 1Woman
over a year ago

Lincoln

What a thing to say, many over 50s are still working and have to continue to do so, we are both over 60 and still have a good quality of life left.

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry


"Professor A says its B.

Professor B says 'Ay'?

Professor C isn't yet famous so he'll say anything to be so.

Professor Fergusson was a 'bit' famous and isn't now so he will say anything to be famous again.

Professor Popkiss is too busy with SuperCar and Brains is just a Puppet so he'll say anything anyone wants him to.

Everyone has an opinion and much of it isn't science and even if it was mostly it's still just a guess.

Statistics is a Science but not one practiced very often by Scientists.

They can't even properly postulate the theory never mind begin a route to a clear answer.

It's all right, but mostly it's actually all wrong.

"

Are you intimidated or resentful of expertise?

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"Professor A says its B.

Professor B says 'Ay'?

Professor C isn't yet famous so he'll say anything to be so.

Professor Fergusson was a 'bit' famous and isn't now so he will say anything to be famous again.

Professor Popkiss is too busy with SuperCar and Brains is just a Puppet so he'll say anything anyone wants him to.

Everyone has an opinion and much of it isn't science and even if it was mostly it's still just a guess.

Statistics is a Science but not one practiced very often by Scientists.

They can't even properly postulate the theory never mind begin a route to a clear answer.

It's all right, but mostly it's actually all wrong.

Are you intimidated or resentful of expertise?"

Hahahaha - when you find any let me know.

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By *iddle ManMan
over a year ago

Walsall


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month. "

Ermmm nope, they won't have a nationwide shutdown again, the government know the economy couldn't cope. So lots of local lockdowns with various degrees of severity

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month. "

So not a real scientist then

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

There has been no case anywhere of a pupil infecting a teacher, children are a no risk. Get the kids back normal to school hours in September. "

I’m a teacher 10 out of 20 staff were infected the week before lock down. Since lockdown I know 5 teachers that were infected teaching keyworker children (and no they weren’t going to Tesco as their non keynworking spouses/ children were doing that) so that is just not true.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

There has been no case anywhere of a pupil infecting a teacher, children are a no risk. Get the

kids back normal to school hours in September.

Children no risk?? Tell that to the 7 year old parents who died last week the risk is not just the old etc so you're saying that because one 7 year old died in Georgia, USA we should keep schools closed. I'm assuming since you are searching internationally for your justifications, you are suggesting all schools worldwide should remain closed.

As for the post about a friend of a friend caught something at school from somebody. Seriously?

5 children under the age of 18 have do far died from covid n the uk that isn't international is it

Age isn't a factor to this

Around 40,000 people have died with covid, 5 of them were under 18. How can you say age isn't a factor?

Because the range of them 40,000 isn't just limited to a certain age group etc

Ranges from young to old all ages in between fit or underlying conditions covid really isn't fussy.

as the schools broke up not long after lockdown maybe that helped with under 18 death rate until schools go back to full compliance

We wont see true number..

The single biggest predictor, worldwide, of Covid related death is age. Mainly being over 65. The next biggest predictors are diabetes, cardiovascular disease and kidney disease. The problem is that there are many apparently healthy people with "no underlying health condition" who actually have pre diabetes and/or mild cardiovascular disease eg atherosclerosis. Pretty much anyone over 65 will have some level of cardiovascular changes, irrespective of their diet, exercise ref etc, because the simple fact is blood vessels get less flexible as you age. Diabetes involves cardiovascular changes and affects the kidneys and there are plenty of people, often overweight (including children) who are undiagnosed with early or pre diabetes.

The number of children under 18 who have died of Covid worldwide is a tiny, tiny percentage of the total. It's not good, obviously, but children are overwhelmingly safe from serious disease. The risks of keeping them cooped up, under educated, under socialised are far higher in the long run. "

The risk isn’t to the children it’s to the staff and to the families of the children when they bring the virus home.

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By *andR510Couple
over a year ago

St Neots/Wisbech


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month. "

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2248216-why-hasnt-the-uk-seen-a-second-wave-of-the-coronavirus/

This tells a slightly different story!

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By *j48Man
over a year ago

Wigan

Exemption from wearing a face mask in a shop etc downloaded..

Mandatory my arse...

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By *ettyboop61Woman
over a year ago

St Neots

Let's all go back to the 60's when life was more relaxed .....peace brother

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

1 person says lockdown, several million probably think not, I'd imagine.

The government has indicated it's inclined towards keeping financial support for a limited time, which would be at odds with lockdown.

Of course, we should lockdown if we were in a position towards where we were when lockdown was needed and if lockdown seemed the appropriate way to stop this. But we're probably not moving quickly to that level of infection. Things seem fairly stable, hospitals running fairly easily with spare capacity and deaths way down from the peak.

The government will take the decisions, not this guy. They've been wanting businesses open, put furlough payment demands on to employers and full lockdown doesn't seem to be a match.

Others say people wouldn't respect restrictions but I'm guessing that they would, if the UK approached the calamity seen elsewhere, where there's pandemonium and ongoing rises in infections, such as the USA.

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By *iger4uWoman
over a year ago

In my happy place

The death rate is right down.

Treatments are better.

So the govt need to stop some of the scaremongering bullying tactics.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No matter what happens, we won't lock down the same as we did, I can't see people being put on furlough again for one, I do think we will have more restrictions again though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Death rate is down as in general far fewer people are infected when compared to the peak in April. However our daily cases were double on Sunday over 1000 than around 500 a day at the start of July.

We have only surpressed the virus, but we still have no cure or vaccination yet. This virus could easily surge right back, if people are complacent or indeed reckless.

Younger people are accounting for most new infections and whilst it is unlikely they'll need hospitalisation or die from it. The risk is still there and could be deadly if spread to older relatives.

Globally the death rate is 5% from confirmed closed cases and has been dropping slowly for a number of months.

Figure obtained from Worldmeters.

The true Covid 19 death rate according to scientists is around 3.4% The Flu is less than 1%.

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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago

birmingham


"Death rate is down as in general far fewer people are infected when compared to the peak in April. However our daily cases were double on Sunday over 1000 than around 500 a day at the start of July.

We have only surpressed the virus, but we still have no cure or vaccination yet. This virus could easily surge right back, if people are complacent or indeed reckless.

Younger people are accounting for most new infections and whilst it is unlikely they'll need hospitalisation or die from it. The risk is still there and could be deadly if spread to older relatives.

Globally the death rate is 5% from confirmed closed cases and has been dropping slowly for a number of months.

Figure obtained from Worldmeters.

The true Covid 19 death rate according to scientists is around 3.4% The Flu is less than 1%. "

We need to get as many young people as possible infected before the winter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just out of interest... And preface with I may have misunderstood the ons data... But having a quick poke around the latest ons data....

There are lots of "interesting" observations... Only 2 I want to highlight... 1)Men are 50 percent more likely to die of covid than women.

2) 90 percent of male deaths and 95 percent of female deaths from covid were aged 65 or above.

I'm an advocate of firm measures and enforcement but it seems there is some merit in managing the over 65s better and letting the under 65s be alert and getting on with things a bit more. "

They could be easily managed by moving them all out of society. Cut off all family contact.

Because the under 65's aren't alert or being careful to socially distance. The groups who supposedly are at lower risk of dying think it's just bad flu. They will be fine.

Doesn't matter that they may pass it on to an older or at risk person. Got to live and have fun.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

Talk of shutting pubs so schools can stay open.

I can't wait to see that!

It's not that simple... Or binary. The 80 year old scientist who is being reported on, said it was down to the lack of any working track and trace process and that serco are running it and not local authorities.

I read yesterday that some local authorities are running their own track and trace systems.

If people don't leave true contact details, no system will work. "

12 of us from went out for a meal in Sat night and restaurant didn't take any contact details apart from my first name for the booking

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

There has been no case anywhere of a pupil infecting a teacher, children are a no risk. Get the

kids back normal to school hours in September.

Children no risk?? Tell that to the 7 year old parents who died last week the risk is not just the old etc so you're saying that because one 7 year old died in Georgia, USA we should keep schools closed. I'm assuming since you are searching internationally for your justifications, you are suggesting all schools worldwide should remain closed.

As for the post about a friend of a friend caught something at school from somebody. Seriously?

5 children under the age of 18 have do far died from covid n the uk that isn't international is it

Age isn't a factor to this

Around 40,000 people have died with covid, 5 of them were under 18. How can you say age isn't a factor?

Because the range of them 40,000 isn't just limited to a certain age group etc

Ranges from young to old all ages in between fit or underlying conditions covid really isn't fussy.

as the schools broke up not long after lockdown maybe that helped with under 18 death rate until schools go back to full compliance

We wont see true number.."

More children have died from drowning in the last few months than covid but I don't see us closing all access to bodies of water.

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching."

We've been doing that since late March. The kids actually want to go back. Whether it's safe is still under debate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

More likely pubs and the like will close and other forms of social gatherings.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

Talk of shutting pubs so schools can stay open.

I can't wait to see that!

It's not that simple... Or binary. The 80 year old scientist who is being reported on, said it was down to the lack of any working track and trace process and that serco are running it and not local authorities.

I read yesterday that some local authorities are running their own track and trace systems.

If people don't leave true contact details, no system will work.

12 of us from went out for a meal in Sat night and restaurant didn't take any contact details apart from my first name for the booking "

I presume they had your phone number so you are the contact from which they will get the other contacts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

Talk of shutting pubs so schools can stay open.

I can't wait to see that!

It's not that simple... Or binary. The 80 year old scientist who is being reported on, said it was down to the lack of any working track and trace process and that serco are running it and not local authorities.

I read yesterday that some local authorities are running their own track and trace systems.

If people don't leave true contact details, no system will work.

12 of us from went out for a meal in Sat night and restaurant didn't take any contact details apart from my first name for the booking

I presume they had your phone number so you are the contact from which they will get the other contacts."

Ah yes, of course. I hadn't thought of that

They didn't ask me for it so I presume they took it down from their display when I booked.

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

There has been no case anywhere of a pupil infecting a teacher, children are a no risk. Get the

kids back normal to school hours in September.

Children no risk?? Tell that to the 7 year old parents who died last week the risk is not just the old etc so you're saying that because one 7 year old died in Georgia, USA we should keep schools closed. I'm assuming since you are searching internationally for your justifications, you are suggesting all schools worldwide should remain closed.

As for the post about a friend of a friend caught something at school from somebody. Seriously?

5 children under the age of 18 have do far died from covid n the uk that isn't international is it

Age isn't a factor to this

Around 40,000 people have died with covid, 5 of them were under 18. How can you say age isn't a factor?

Because the range of them 40,000 isn't just limited to a certain age group etc

Ranges from young to old all ages in between fit or underlying conditions covid really isn't fussy.

as the schools broke up not long after lockdown maybe that helped with under 18 death rate until schools go back to full compliance

We wont see true number..

More children have died from drowning in the last few months than covid but I don't see us closing all access to bodies of water."

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

Let's be honest it's only slightly more deadly and standard flue bug is there any real need any restrictions..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

Talk of shutting pubs so schools can stay open.

I can't wait to see that!

It's not that simple... Or binary. The 80 year old scientist who is being reported on, said it was down to the lack of any working track and trace process and that serco are running it and not local authorities.

I read yesterday that some local authorities are running their own track and trace systems.

If people don't leave true contact details, no system will work. "
I just read on the briefing news that the teacher unions are agains boris plans for the openings of the schools.

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton


"Let's be honest it's only slightly more deadly and standard flue bug is there any real need any restrictions.."

The death rate is far higher than the flu and the virus spreads more quickly. Do you not recall the model which showed 500k deaths in the UK alone without lockdown?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Let's be honest it's only slightly more deadly and standard flue bug is there any real need any restrictions.."

Repeating lies doesn't make them true.

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By *r. JoystickMan
over a year ago

London


"Let's be honest it's only slightly more deadly and standard flue bug is there any real need any restrictions.."

My colleague, who is one year younger than me (25) was on a ventilator for weeks in hospital due to COVID. He almost died.

He's had colds and the flu before; the typical experiences with those.

COVID can be far more deadly than what you're saying.

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge


"Let's be honest it's only slightly more deadly and standard flue bug is there any real need any restrictions..

My colleague, who is one year younger than me (25) was on a ventilator for weeks in hospital due to COVID. He almost died.

He's had colds and the flu before; the typical experiences with those.

COVID can be far more deadly than what you're saying. "

25 year olds nearly die from many things but, as with covid, it's a rare occurrence.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"

25 year olds nearly die from many things but, as with covid, it's a rare occurrence."

Unless they die of course...

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge


"

25 year olds nearly die from many things but, as with covid, it's a rare occurrence.

Unless they die of course..."

When it becomes an even rarer occurrence.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"

25 year olds nearly die from many things but, as with covid, it's a rare occurrence.

Unless they die of course...

When it becomes an even rarer occurrence. "

Dear oh dear...

Well, I'm not going to get involved in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month.

I’d like to place £10 on the words “wake up people” being used at least three times in this thread please x

Wake up people!!!! (Give you a head start) "

Former scientist ? What are they doing now ? I thought once you have BTEC in science you are permanently a scientist

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month. "

So a former scientist said something "could" happen.... he probably writes papers on climate change as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month.

I’d like to place £10 on the words “wake up people” being used at least three times in this thread please x

Wake up people!!!! (Give you a head start)

Former scientist ? What are they doing now ? I thought once you have BTEC in science you are permanently a scientist "

I may be a scientist, I never knew!

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge


"

25 year olds nearly die from many things but, as with covid, it's a rare occurrence.

Unless they die of course...

When it becomes an even rarer occurrence.

Dear oh dear...

Well, I'm not going to get involved in a battle of wits with an unarmed man."

And with that he picks up his football and leaves the playground.

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By *r. JoystickMan
over a year ago

London


"More children have died from drowning in the last few months than covid but I don't see us closing all access to bodies of water."

Oh yes, remember that time when somebody started drowning and suddenly everyone who came into contact with them severely increased their risk of drowning too?

You can try and make a joke about how jumping in to save them would increase your chance of drowning if you wish - but you'll end up describing an allegory for the NHS and virus transmission.

Use a better example, mate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wake up peoples! The earth is flat.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

Probably will be a second wave but the the ones more susceptible to death are gone already if not finished by the second wave.

Ideally from the goverment perspective they would love it clear off all the old and unemployed already created by first wave.

They've got the interweb and phones and laptops to keep the country running now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Probably will be a second wave but the the ones more susceptible to death are gone already if not finished by the second wave.

Ideally from the goverment perspective they would love it clear off all the old and unemployed already created by first wave.

They've got the interweb and phones and laptops to keep the country running now."

It is hard to know where to start with the inaccuracies in this post, there’s a massive section of the population still uninflected and high risk to the virus.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just as the weather is turning unpleasant and people won't be going places anyway...convenient that

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Wake up peoples! The earth is flat. "

And controlled by lizard people in pizza shops.

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By *andomfodCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month.

I hope it does. Life was simpler in lockdown.

And who's going to end up paying for all this in the long run"

My thoughts l. Can't see them paying out for another furlough scheme, and if people are allowed to go to work, they'll go wherever they please while not at work.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Wake up peoples! The earth is flat.

And controlled by lizard people in pizza shops."

Is that so? Well, you learn something new every day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month. "
never going to happen, there is no way the government could finance it, and I don't believe people would abibe by it either, I know after all the demonstrations an stuff last Time it made me feel whats the piont if hundreds/thousands can meet up with no social distancing so to speak of.

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By *m3232Man
over a year ago

maidenhead

I am expecting the next lockdown.

The opening up part didn’t take in to account stupid people sadly. Beaches should be closed and large meeting areas also now.

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands


"

They should lockdown all the over 55 year olds and let the rest of us get on and enjoy our lives.

The oldies have no quality of life left in them. They just make the young people depressed.

"

It is stupid comments like that which are putting doubts into my mind about whether or not this forum has run its couse.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple


"

They should lockdown all the over 55 year olds and let the rest of us get on and enjoy our lives.

The oldies have no quality of life left in them. They just make the young people depressed.

It is stupid comments like that which are putting doubts into my mind about whether or not this forum has run its couse."

My quality of life is way better than it was in my 30's. No mortgage, great career, no miserable husband, adult children and freedom.

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By *tallion and fillyCouple
over a year ago

Barrow in Furness


" They young people will be even more depressed when everything they take for granted stops working because the people with all the experience and knowledge are shut away.

What a hot take! Where's the clown emojii when you need it?

I’m with him, seems they stopped teaching life skills and common sense in schools about 20 years or so ago, can’t get a tradesman for love nor money that’s does a decent job these days, probably why all the UK industry is being shipped out abroad more and more each year.

They had to make room for the module on deconstructivist perspectives on colonial imperialism and to go through the gender thesaurus. Something had to go mate, sorry.

It's a shame your imperialist model of pedagogical methods is no longer congruent with current ideas and you struggle to maintain contemporaneous models of understanding. Kids generally do better, fortunately."

In most cases they also go home and cuddle parents.

The head teacher at one of our local schools passed after having the virus. You only have to drive passed pubs to see distancing is mostly ignored after a couple of pints.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Another interesting statistic re the increase in cases in the last 2 weeks.

U.K. + 19% which isn't great.

Finland + 89%

Norway + 219%

Iceland +693%

And those crazy Swedes -19%

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

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"

They should lockdown all the over 55 year olds and let the rest of us get on and enjoy our lives.

The oldies have no quality of life left in them. They just make the young people depressed.

It is stupid comments like that which are putting doubts into my mind about whether or not this forum has run its couse."

I imagine it has to be a joke, especially as the person who posted it is close to the age

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

I wont be locked down, I'm a nurse, worked all through without moaning.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Let's be honest it's only slightly more deadly and standard flue bug is there any real need any restrictions.."

False. It's more infections and far more deadly than flu. It also leaves people who may have only had mild symptoms, with serious organ damage, as well as organ failure, including brain damage.

We also don't know what the cumulative health impacts there could be if people had repeat infections, as we're still in early days. Death rates could be significantly higher again, from 2 or more bouts of just mild infections.

This is causing lifelong disability to people. Most flu infection is relatively mild in comparison. Flu also has vaccines, including a new vaccine for all types of flu, due in a year.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


" They young people will be even more depressed when everything they take for granted stops working because the people with all the experience and knowledge are shut away.

What a hot take! Where's the clown emojii when you need it?

I’m with him, seems they stopped teaching life skills and common sense in schools about 20 years or so ago, can’t get a tradesman for love nor money that’s does a decent job these days, probably why all the UK industry is being shipped out abroad more and more each year.

They had to make room for the module on deconstructivist perspectives on colonial imperialism and to go through the gender thesaurus. Something had to go mate, sorry.

It's a shame your imperialist model of pedagogical methods is no longer congruent with current ideas and you struggle to maintain contemporaneous models of understanding. Kids generally do better, fortunately.

In most cases they also go home and cuddle parents.

The head teacher at one of our local schools passed after having the virus. You only have to drive passed pubs to see distancing is mostly ignored after a couple of pints."

Yes.

Even if none get sick, which is demonstrably false (I said none, which means absolutely zero at all, those who want to say they rarely get sick)... Evidence shows they're infectious, and they have adults in their lives. They'll spread it even if they're fine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So when can we start having orgies again?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So when can we start having orgies again? "

Again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

They should lockdown all the over 55 year olds and let the rest of us get on and enjoy our lives.

The oldies have no quality of life left in them. They just make the young people depressed.

It is stupid comments like that which are putting doubts into my mind about whether or not this forum has run its couse.

I imagine it has to be a joke, especially as the person who posted it is close to the age"

Partly joke. Partly in comment to people who say lock down the old or vulnerable. Because apparently their lives mean less than everyone else's.

My point being where is the cut off...? I know healthy 70 year olds and vulnerable 30 year olds.

People think it's ok to shut others away.... until I suggest an age that affects them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There won't be another national lockdown . The country cant afford to do that. It just wont happen .

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"

They should lockdown all the over 55 year olds and let the rest of us get on and enjoy our lives.

The oldies have no quality of life left in them. They just make the young people depressed.

It is stupid comments like that which are putting doubts into my mind about whether or not this forum has run its couse.

I imagine it has to be a joke, especially as the person who posted it is close to the age

Partly joke. Partly in comment to people who say lock down the old or vulnerable. Because apparently their lives mean less than everyone else's.

My point being where is the cut off...? I know healthy 70 year olds and vulnerable 30 year olds.

People think it's ok to shut others away.... until I suggest an age that affects them. "

Indeed.

Some of the factors which make people more vulnerable to problems with covid eg obesity, type 2 diabetes and certain ethnicities would cause absolute outrage if they were used as a reason to isolate people but age is ok apparently.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"

They should lockdown all the over 55 year olds and let the rest of us get on and enjoy our lives.

The oldies have no quality of life left in them. They just make the young people depressed.

It is stupid comments like that which are putting doubts into my mind about whether or not this forum has run its couse.

I imagine it has to be a joke, especially as the person who posted it is close to the age

Partly joke. Partly in comment to people who say lock down the old or vulnerable. Because apparently their lives mean less than everyone else's.

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It has been like that from the beginning, first it was "it is ok it will be only the over 60's who will be dying" and now "leave those over 60's at home so we youngsters can live our life"

It is as if we are too old for anything other than pipe and slippers and is very selfish from the younger generation. I wonder if they say this to their parents, a thick ear they may get

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

At the risk of invoking Rugby's wrath, my parents in their 60s, I've grounded them. Repeatedly. They're vulnerable and I don't want them to die.

... They think it's funny.

And Mum has grounded me in return

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"At the risk of invoking Rugby's wrath, my parents in their 60s, I've grounded them. Repeatedly. They're vulnerable and I don't want them to die.

... They think it's funny.

And Mum has grounded me in return "

Tell me about it, me and Mr ruggers had to build ourselves up to stand up to our kids and tell them we were going to go out!! It was scary I tell ya, it took us a week to tell them, they were not happy !

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"At the risk of invoking Rugby's wrath, my parents in their 60s, I've grounded them. Repeatedly. They're vulnerable and I don't want them to die.

... They think it's funny.

And Mum has grounded me in return

Tell me about it, me and Mr ruggers had to build ourselves up to stand up to our kids and tell them we were going to go out!! It was scary I tell ya, it took us a week to tell them, they were not happy ! "

It's a difficult intergenerational balance. Weird inversion of things. But I do it, as I'm sure your family are, in the spirit of caring for each other's health.

I told my mum to ground her mum and she said it wasn't worth her life

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

I bet they snuck out like we did before we got brave to tell them

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over a year ago


"I bet they snuck out like we did before we got brave to tell them "

So don't tell them!

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By *idnight_Express69Man
over a year ago

Rochdale


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

There has been no case anywhere of a pupil infecting a teacher, children are a no risk. Get the kids back normal to school hours in September. "

Lots of teachers have died from COVID globally.

There is no evidence that they contracted COVID from a student because there was no test and trace mechanism prior to lockdown.

The lack of evidence does not mean that schools are safe to re-open. Masks are not mandatory in schools for 11+ and yet those people must wear masks in other public buildings such as museums and retail stores.

Crazy.

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By *esires of HertsCouple
over a year ago

Herts and London Borders

9 out of 10 pubs are not taking contact details...after all the moaning they did to reopen..lots of infections originating from pubs...time to close them down again to avoid the uptick we have growing into a second wave

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"Masks are not mandatory in schools for 11+ and yet those people must wear masks in other public buildings such as museums and retail stores.

Crazy."

Adding granularity in other public places just adds the possibility of accidental or intentional misinterpretation.

We've seen the mess that happens when too many 'ifs and buts' are added.

Simple often works best.

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge

The governments know we won't accept another lockdown and the economies cannot withstand one. So where before they were competing for which country can impose the tightest lockdown, now they are competing for which country can impose the strictest mask policy.

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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago

birmingham


"9 out of 10 pubs are not taking contact details...after all the moaning they did to reopen..lots of infections originating from pubs...time to close them down again to avoid the uptick we have growing into a second wave"

You don't know what a second wave is. You can't have a second wave until the first wave has passed through

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Let's go surfing now, everybody's learning how, come on a safari with me!

https://youtu.be/IMChBJZUDK8

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By *iliciousCouple
over a year ago

Sussex/Surrey


"Yes as schools might open then, it is to early for them to open, they have to find another way of teaching like virtual teaching.

There has been no case anywhere of a pupil infecting a teacher, children are a no risk. Get the kids back normal to school hours in September. "

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Great to get a heads up on the forthcoming PHE report which is actually expected to say “actually we don’t have enough data yet to say one way or another and that’s after a large test we did in June”

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By *ettyboop61Woman
over a year ago

St Neots


"That'll kill some more then as the Government's own report, that they put out last week, shows that the lockdown killed two people for every three that died of COVID-19 by the beginning of May.

However, when you take into account the age of those who died from coronavirus, as well as their underlying health conditions, the loss of life as measured in Quality Adjusted Life Years, or Qalys, for those who died as a result of the lockdown was greater than it was for those who died of COVID-19. This is how the authors of the report put it:

The direct COVID-19 deaths account for the majority of all excess deaths. However, when morbidity is taken into account, the estimates for the health impacts from a lockdown and lockdown induced recession are greater in terms of QALYs than the direct

COVID-19 deaths.

Much of the health impact, particularly in terms of morbidity, will be felt long after the pandemic is assumed to last.

No one seems to be bothering about the collateral damage at all. Just wait for the excess deaths from the economic collapse and the ensuing mental health problems as well.

They should lockdown all the over 55 year olds and let the rest of us get on and enjoy our lives.

The oldies have no quality of life left in them. They just make the young people depressed. "

I would like to see what would happen to you when you get OLD!!!! Hope there is somebody around to help you ....you selfish person

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge


"That'll kill some more then as the Government's own report, that they put out last week, shows that the lockdown killed two people for every three that died of COVID-19 by the beginning of May.

However, when you take into account the age of those who died from coronavirus, as well as their underlying health conditions, the loss of life as measured in Quality Adjusted Life Years, or Qalys, for those who died as a result of the lockdown was greater than it was for those who died of COVID-19. This is how the authors of the report put it:

The direct COVID-19 deaths account for the majority of all excess deaths. However, when morbidity is taken into account, the estimates for the health impacts from a lockdown and lockdown induced recession are greater in terms of QALYs than the direct

COVID-19 deaths.

Much of the health impact, particularly in terms of morbidity, will be felt long after the pandemic is assumed to last.

No one seems to be bothering about the collateral damage at all. Just wait for the excess deaths from the economic collapse and the ensuing mental health problems as well.

They should lockdown all the over 55 year olds and let the rest of us get on and enjoy our lives.

The oldies have no quality of life left in them. They just make the young people depressed.

I would like to see what would happen to you when you get OLD!!!! Hope there is somebody around to help you ....you selfish person "

So you think we should lockdown the people at practically no risk from the virus simply so they can show solidarity with the people who are at risk?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They should lockdown all the over 55 year olds and let the rest of us get on and enjoy our lives.

The oldies have no quality of life left in them. They just make the young people depressed."

??

Mum I'm so stressed I've not been out for a week can you look after the children and can dad pick us up from the night club after I've spent the £50 of you for my night out.

No Darling I'm stranded on a cruise ship in the Bahamas..

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By *oggerukMan
over a year ago

mids

Like reading the daily mail here , covid been and gone it’s just being strung out for some reason

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By *ensualpleasures69Man
over a year ago

leeds


"That'll kill some more then as the Government's own report, that they put out last week, shows that the lockdown killed two people for every three that died of COVID-19 by the beginning of May.

However, when you take into account the age of those who died from coronavirus, as well as their underlying health conditions, the loss of life as measured in Quality Adjusted Life Years, or Qalys, for those who died as a result of the lockdown was greater than it was for those who died of COVID-19. This is how the authors of the report put it:

The direct COVID-19 deaths account for the majority of all excess deaths. However, when morbidity is taken into account, the estimates for the health impacts from a lockdown and lockdown induced recession are greater in terms of QALYs than the direct

COVID-19 deaths.

Much of the health impact, particularly in terms of morbidity, will be felt long after the pandemic is assumed to last.

No one seems to be bothering about the collateral damage at all. Just wait for the excess deaths from the economic collapse and the ensuing mental health problems as well.

They should lockdown all the over 55 year olds and let the rest of us get on and enjoy our lives.

The oldies have no quality of life left in them. They just make the young people depressed. "

Try telling that to an 84 yr old up my street who does the gym 4 times a week, goes skiing and enjoys life more than most 30 yr olds.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"Former UK Scientists says, UK could go back to Locked Down next month.

I’d like to place £10 on the words “wake up people” being used at least three times in this thread please x"

Can I get £20 on it being used five times in the thread

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"That'll kill some more then as the Government's own report, that they put out last week, shows that the lockdown killed two people for every three that died of COVID-19 by the beginning of May.

However, when you take into account the age of those who died from coronavirus, as well as their underlying health conditions, the loss of life as measured in Quality Adjusted Life Years, or Qalys, for those who died as a result of the lockdown was greater than it was for those who died of COVID-19. This is how the authors of the report put it:

The direct COVID-19 deaths account for the majority of all excess deaths. However, when morbidity is taken into account, the estimates for the health impacts from a lockdown and lockdown induced recession are greater in terms of QALYs than the direct

COVID-19 deaths.

Much of the health impact, particularly in terms of morbidity, will be felt long after the pandemic is assumed to last.

No one seems to be bothering about the collateral damage at all. Just wait for the excess deaths from the economic collapse and the ensuing mental health problems as well.

They should lockdown all the over 55 year olds and let the rest of us get on and enjoy our lives.

The oldies have no quality of life left in them. They just make the young people depressed.

Try telling that to an 84 yr old up my street who does the gym 4 times a week, goes skiing and enjoys life more than most 30 yr olds."

I'm fitter stronger, more active and have a better social life than many in their 20's .

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