FabSwingers.com forum: Lockdown changes

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Looks like another 2 weeks of restrictions. Just announced today. Probably means no playtime for a while

Stay safe people. I’m having weekly tests at the min due to work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes a relexed lockdown doesnt work, it have to be a strickter one, stay safe

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

If people would stop being knobheads things would be different.

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By *dores blackmenWoman
over a year ago

incognito mode ;-)

Mostly in the north I see,plus the uk have postponed eg bowling alleys,ice rinks,Some beauty/tattoo/piercing treatments are postponed for another two weeks,which is to the annoyance of my teenager who wants snake bites

I also get a mandatory weekly covid test at work,which does give reassurance

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By *my EastwoodTV/TS
over a year ago

Somewherefaraway

. "****FAB SWINGERS ADMINISTRATION**** YOU NEED TO UPDATE THE GUIDELINES, IT'S CRITICAL!

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By *ollycouple71Couple
over a year ago

manchester

"If people would stop being knobheads things would be different. "

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By *en_Dover79Man
over a year ago

Oswaldtwistle

up here in east lancs cant visit each others houses as of last night.. but coming home from work an hour ago my Asian neighbours have a good housefull and parked all over the street... they have been doing this for the last 4 months so no different really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"up here in east lancs cant visit each others houses as of last night.. but coming home from work an hour ago my Asian neighbours have a good housefull and parked all over the street... they have been doing this for the last 4 months so no different really"

Likewise my nextdoor neighbours. Day one of new rules? Two other families come round for drinks and music in the garden.

Sigh.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

Likewise my nextdoor neighbours. Day one of new rules? Two other families come round for drinks and music in the garden.

Sigh. "

It's bloody disgusting, get the fire service out and water cannon the inconsiderate twats apart.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Likewise my nextdoor neighbours. Day one of new rules? Two other families come round for drinks and music in the garden.

Sigh.

It's bloody disgusting, get the fire service out and water cannon the inconsiderate twats apart. "
Is it about time people should start reporting the rule breakers?

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

Likewise my nextdoor neighbours. Day one of new rules? Two other families come round for drinks and music in the garden.

Sigh.

It's bloody disgusting, get the fire service out and water cannon the inconsiderate twats apart. Is it about time people should start reporting the rule breakers?"

Yes

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

Likewise my nextdoor neighbours. Day one of new rules? Two other families come round for drinks and music in the garden.

Sigh.

It's bloody disgusting, get the fire service out and water cannon the inconsiderate twats apart. "

Tbh the fire brigade have better things to do tbh (already pissed of with my neighbour calling them out last weekend to us), I would call 111 and report them the law is the law

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

". "****FAB SWINGERS ADMINISTRATION**** YOU NEED TO UPDATE THE GUIDELINES, IT'S CRITICAL!"

Not really critical though is it? It would be nice maybe, but not exactly life dependent.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

Likewise my nextdoor neighbours. Day one of new rules? Two other families come round for drinks and music in the garden.

Sigh.

It's bloody disgusting, get the fire service out and water cannon the inconsiderate twats apart.

Tbh the fire brigade have better things to do tbh (already pissed of with my neighbour calling them out last weekend to us), I would call 111 and report them the law is the law "

It would only need to happen once ortwice for people to realise that there are consequences.

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By *uninlondon69Man
over a year ago

Tower Bridge South

Why have you added the word "Asian"? That's irrelevant here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Likewise my nextdoor neighbours. Day one of new rules? Two other families come round for drinks and music in the garden.

Sigh.

It's bloody disgusting, get the fire service out and water cannon the inconsiderate twats apart. Is it about time people should start reporting the rule breakers?

Yes "
Yes cos some of them think they are above the law as well.

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford

The police will NOT intervene, can you imagine the outcry of racism for breaking up Eid parties !

I doubt they will break up any parties anyway and site 'lack of staff' as the reason.

The idiots will be idiots whatever the law says, we will be back to 500 deaths a day by September !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Likewise my nextdoor neighbours. Day one of new rules? Two other families come round for drinks and music in the garden.

Sigh.

It's bloody disgusting, get the fire service out and water cannon the inconsiderate twats apart. Is it about time people should start reporting the rule breakers?

Yes "

I've lived next to them for 22 yrs and have no plans to move. They'd know it was me reporting them. Not sure I want their wrath.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is absolutely insane... Apparently there's a pandemic yet a bandana or a scarf is as effective at stopping the spread of this so called virus even though virologist need full suits and helmets when dealing with viruses and if there is a virus that's the most deadly known to man why is it I see masks and gloves everywhere and no biohazard bins to dispose of contagious ppe. Why is it people need to be tested to even know if they've had it and aren't being rushed into hospital dying from it? If you can answer all of these with a critical mind and logical thought but still believe there is a world deadly contagion going about then it's you that is the problem and these ridiculous guidelines should be questioned vigorously. Blindly following advice because of fear of health without any substantial evidence to back it up isn't the way to go about things!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Likewise my nextdoor neighbours. Day one of new rules? Two other families come round for drinks and music in the garden.

Sigh.

It's bloody disgusting, get the fire service out and water cannon the inconsiderate twats apart.

Tbh the fire brigade have better things to do tbh (already pissed of with my neighbour calling them out last weekend to us), I would call 111 and report them the law is the law "

Not sure what the nhs helpline could do LOL the non police emergency is 101 x

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By *ubwife4uCouple
over a year ago

Kent

Just meet all your family and friends in the pub. I hear they are not shutting because they are an essential service! ....... only joking by the way!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The police will NOT intervene, can you imagine the outcry of racism for breaking up Eid parties !

I doubt they will break up any parties anyway and site 'lack of staff' as the reason.

The idiots will be idiots whatever the law says, we will be back to 500 deaths a day by September !!"

^ this

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Why have you added the word "Asian"? That's irrelevant here. "

Why is it irrelevant? If it's what you see, you say it as you see it

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By *ranimallxl5Man
over a year ago

Winchester

Why have you added the word "Asian"? That's irrelevant here.

Why is it irrelevant? If it's what you see, you say it as you see it "

Would you describe your caucasian neighbours as white or just call them your neighbours?

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

Why have you added the word "Asian"? That's irrelevant here. "

It's actually very relevant, they are at a far higher risk from the virus and are gathering in large numbers for Eid celebrations. They are also far more likely to live in multi generational households which is where we are seeing spikes in cases.

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By *uninlondon69Man
over a year ago

Tower Bridge South

Just meet all your family and friends in the pub. I hear they are not shutting because they are an essential service! ....... only joking by the way!"

It appears you can meet anywhere that generates revenue. Have a barbecue and charge your family an entrance fee! Ask them to bring a bottle of wine and surprise them with a bill for corkage

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Why have you added the word "Asian"? That's irrelevant here.

Why is it irrelevant? If it's what you see, you say it as you see it

Would you describe your caucasian neighbours as white or just call them your neighbours?"

Depends on the context and also don't lose sight of the plentiful blaming for increased infections and deaths in the bame community.

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen

Still shaking my head in bemusement that people still believe that you can stop the spread of a natural pathogen. You can't you can only slow it.

I didn’t think the Government’s management of the pandemic could get any worse, but I was wrong. The measures announced last night, imposing new restrictions in Greater Manchester, east Lancashire and parts of West Yorkshire, are a new low.

They were announced by Matt Hancock in a Twitter thread at 9.16pm. He really did announce restrictions affecting millions of people on Twitter less than three hours before they were due to come into force. Or should that be farce? It’s as though Matt Hancock’s script is being written by Armando Iannucci, creator of The Thick of It. Oh, and the Government then published the new guidance two hours later – less than an hour before it came into effect – and then published further guidance this morning.

Let me see if I can get this straight. In Greater Manchester, Blackburn with Darwen, Burnley, Hyndburn, Pendle, Rossendale, Bradford, Calderdale and Kirklees, people from one household won’t be allowed to meet people from other households in their homes or gardens. That seems relatively clear, but the Government then added the caveat that you are allowed to mix with a person or persons in another household if the two households have formed a “support bubble”. A “support bubble” “must include a single adult household, i.e. people who live alone or single parents with dependent children aged under 18”.

Clear?

When asked about this rather complicated rule on breakfast television this morning, Hancock only added to the confusion.

“The law that we’re bringing in is that two households cannot meet in the area defined, but obviously any two households that are meeting should follow the social distancing guidelines,” he said.

Not only did that fail to make the advice any clearer, but by using the words “in the area defined” he muddied the waters even further. In its published guidance, the Government specified that people in the these areas should not “visit someone else’s home or garden even if they live outside of the affected areas”. So has the Government changed its mind about that? Or does Hancock not understand his own guidance?

Perhaps Hancock’s confusion isn’t surprising since the guidance is borderline incomprehensible.

For instance, someone from outside an “affected area” is not allowed to visit someone inside an “affected area” unless they’re attending a wedding or a funeral, in which case they can provided there are no more than 30 people in attendance. Oh, and you’re allowed to travel into an “affected area” if you’re “holidaying” there.

Clear?

There’s more of this gobbledegook. People in the “affected areas” will be allowed to visit pubs, restaurants, cafes, shops, places of worship, community centres, leisure and entertainment venues and visitor attractions, but only if they remain with members of their households while in those venues and don’t “socialise” with anyone else – unless they’re in their “support bubble”, of course.

In Leicester, where a local lockdown has been in place for the past month, pubs, cafes and restaurants will re-open on Monday, but the no-socialising restriction will apply, as will the other new rules.

You are allowed to meet people in the open air, provided it’s not in a private garden:

In line with the national guidance, you can continue to meet in public outdoor spaces in groups of no more than six people, unless the group includes only people from two households.

What if one of the two households includes someone from another household in their “support bubble”? And why public parks but not private gardens? Who knows.

The new law mandating these restrictions is going to be called “The Dog’s Breakfast Act”. Or is it the “Whack-A-Mole Act”?

In his Twitter thread, Hancock said this decision was “based on the data” and referred to “an increasing rate of transmission in parts of Northern England”.

The main evidence that the number of cases is increasing comes from the ONS, which claims it has discovered a slight increase in the number of people testing positive based on a nose and throat swab in recent weeks. Here’s what the BBC has to say about those data:

The figures are based on its infection survey, which takes swabs from people selected at random in homes in England.

The ONS estimates that about 1 in 1,500 people in homes in England are infected (roughly 36,000 people in total) with 4,200 new infections each day.

Both figures are up on last week, when it was estimated there were 2,800 new infections each day and that one in 2,000 people (28,000 total) were infected in homes in England.

Unfortunately, the ONS hasn’t disclosed whether it re-tested anyone to ensure the first test result wasn’t a false positive.

Even though these data show a slight uptick in the number of cases in the past few weeks – from 0.05% of the population to a whopping 0.07% – the overall number of cases is far lower than it was at the end of April (0.34%).

Can this be used to justify the local lockdowns? Not really. In Germany, the trigger for a local lockdown is the number of new cases climbing to above 50/100,000. The only part of Greater Manchester that’s happened in is Oldham. Why are the people of Manchester having to suffer all these new restrictions when the infection rate is only 25/100,000?

As usual, there’s no rhyme or reason to the Government’s handling of the crisis. They’re just making it up as they go along.

Incidentally anyone from one of the affected areas who’s currently visiting someone in another area is now breaking the law!

It's all nonsense.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Still shaking my head in bemusement that people still believe that you can stop the spread of a natural pathogen. You can't you can only slow it.