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By *on12xx OP   Man
over a year ago

leeds

Have noticed alot good people trying do this

BUT

Also a number of people find loopholes excuses why not to be in it together

Stop finding excuses we should be in this together

STILL OVER 120 DEATHS YESTERDAY

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

Flagrante


"Have noticed alot good people trying do this

BUT

Also a number of people find loopholes excuses why not to be in it together

Stop finding excuses we should be in this together

STILL OVER 120 DEATHS YESTERDAY

"

Because some people are selfish or stupid or both sadly.

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By *on12xx OP   Man
over a year ago

leeds

I totally agree

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen


"Have noticed alot good people trying do this

BUT

Also a number of people find loopholes excuses why not to be in it together

Stop finding excuses we should be in this together

STILL OVER 120 DEATHS YESTERDAY

"

Depends if you believe in this unscientific nonsense or not.

If masks work as alleged (they don't but that's another story). It doesn't matter if someone isn't wearing one because yours will protect you.

If as alleged masks stop the spread by 'trapping' the virus where are all the bio hazard bins and disposal points. The country is littered with discarded face coverings.

All total nonsense designed to soften up a public for vaccination.

By the way the same people saying 'we're all in it together' are usually the same people who were stocking up on toilet rolls and baby foods at the expense of others back in March.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

You are preaching to a tiny minority on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't know a single person who is still on board with any of it.

I think that's the generally mentality now.

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By *on12xx OP   Man
over a year ago

leeds

Vaccination.

Question people with children do you vaccinate

It's like people saying the world is flat

I believe In vaccination saved 100 millions of lives

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By *ancs_tgirl_38TV/TS
over a year ago

Blackpool

LOL,I've also noticed a lot of people from this site on a different thread sorta bragging about what their going to be getting upto with complete strangers from all over the county at a certain swing event coming up next month,

Wearing a mask to go out for a loaf of bread pales into insignificance, give me a break!

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By *on12xx OP   Man
over a year ago

leeds


"I don't know a single person who is still on board with any of it.

I think that's the generally mentality now."

Yes Selfishness has taken over

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By *az080378Woman
over a year ago

Cromer


"Have noticed alot good people trying do this

BUT

Also a number of people find loopholes excuses why not to be in it together

Stop finding excuses we should be in this together

STILL OVER 120 DEATHS YESTERDAY

Depends if you believe in this unscientific nonsense or not.

If masks work as alleged (they don't but that's another story). It doesn't matter if someone isn't wearing one because yours will protect you.

If as alleged masks stop the spread by 'trapping' the virus where are all the bio hazard bins and disposal points. The country is littered with discarded face coverings.

All total nonsense designed to soften up a public for vaccination.

By the way the same people saying 'we're all in it together' are usually the same people who were stocking up on toilet rolls and baby foods at the expense of others back in March."

Why do they need to soften up the public for vaccination?....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You are preaching to a tiny minority on here.

"

Here we go, fountain of wisdom to the rescue

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"You are preaching to a tiny minority on here.

Here we go, fountain of wisdom to the rescue "

Aww thank you.

Hope you are staying safe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does make you wonder how we got through World Wars.

“Gas masks? No mate, I’m not wearing them...”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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LOL,I've also noticed a lot of people from this site on a different thread sorta bragging about what their going to be getting upto with complete strangers from all over the county at a certain swing event coming up next month,

Wearing a mask to go out for a loaf of bread pales into insignificance, give me a break! "

That "event" has the potential to be another "Covid19 Ground Zero", I hope the hotels these people are using have been informed and know what to expect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have noticed alot good people trying do this

BUT

Also a number of people find loopholes excuses why not to be in it together

Stop finding excuses we should be in this together

STILL OVER 120 DEATHS YESTERDAY

Depends if you believe in this unscientific nonsense or not.

If masks work as alleged (they don't but that's another story). It doesn't matter if someone isn't wearing one because yours will protect you.

If as alleged masks stop the spread by 'trapping' the virus where are all the bio hazard bins and disposal points. The country is littered with discarded face coverings.

All total nonsense designed to soften up a public for vaccination.

By the way the same people saying 'we're all in it together' are usually the same people who were stocking up on toilet rolls and baby foods at the expense of others back in March.

Why do they need to soften up the public for vaccination?...."

My question too.

I’m standing by for the antivaxer conspiracy bollocks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No we aren't in this together, that much has been made very clear

Clap for the NHS every week but deny pay raises for nurses and block policies to protect the NHS from being bought.

No, the divide is clear, Mrs works for the NHS and everyone clapping every week while not social distancing was just an insult.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No we aren't in this together, that much has been made very clear

Clap for the NHS every week but deny pay raises for nurses and block policies to protect the NHS from being bought.

No, the divide is clear, Mrs works for the NHS and everyone clapping every week while not social distancing was just an insult. "

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By *on12xx OP   Man
over a year ago

leeds

I agree

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By *on12xx OP   Man
over a year ago

leeds


"Vaccination.

Question people with children do you vaccinate

It's like people saying the world is flat

I believe In vaccination saved 100 millions of lives"

FACT above

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By *on12xx OP   Man
over a year ago

leeds


"Does make you wonder how we got through World Wars.

“Gas masks? No mate, I’m not wearing them...”"

Unfortunately society has changed since World wars

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Does make you wonder how we got through World Wars.

“Gas masks? No mate, I’m not wearing them...”

Unfortunately society has changed since World wars"

Yep, far more is covered up and brushed under the carpet.

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

We will never be in this all together, society differences are too high, all we can do is support the ones who do act responsibily and avoid the ones who are self entitled to do as they please

The most important part anyone can do is to protect the vulnerable as they are the ones who will mainly die from this disease

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

Some people seem intent wearing a mask over their eyes and ears rather than their nose and mouth.

Still they are entitled to their opinion

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Does make you wonder how we got through World Wars.

“Gas masks? No mate, I’m not wearing them...”"

Theres no evidence they work.

It's all a conspiracy to soften us up for... rationing.

Some people don't wear them properly therefore it's pointless for me to even try.

I saw someone not wearing one so therefore I'm not going to wear one either.

The air raid guards have no authority to enforce it so I'm going to go without.

I find them uncomfortable to wear so nobody's going to make me.

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan
over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact


"We will never be in this all together, society differences are too high, all we can do is support the ones who do act responsibily and avoid the ones who are self entitled to do as they please

The most important part anyone can do is to protect the vulnerable as they are the ones who will mainly die from this disease "

This. Society is not equal so circumstances are not equal. A single parent with mouths to feed living in a flat is going to find it to be a lot more pressure than an affluent family living in comfort whilst working from home. That's not to say we shouldn't be sensible about the choices we make and how we behave. But sadly, whenever the public are given a choice, there are many who will make the wrong choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We won't be in this together because some of the population have become whiny entitled morons

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"Some people seem intent wearing a mask over their eyes and ears rather than their nose and mouth.

Still they are entitled to their opinion "

Indeed.

Significantly less danger than wearing tinfoil though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We will never be in this all together, society differences are too high, all we can do is support the ones who do act responsibily and avoid the ones who are self entitled to do as they please

The most important part anyone can do is to protect the vulnerable as they are the ones who will mainly die from this disease "

This 100%. The ignorant types will keep selfishly putting their needs above everyone else’s well being without a second’s thought for the good souls who might have to risk their own lives to save theres. Block list growing by the day, i guess it’s helping us to separate the decent people from the idiots

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

There will always be the loopholers - the I don't have to's - the rest of you are stupid because I know better.

It's life I guess.

No. Sadly we are not all in this together.

On another note - just fooking ignore them lol.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"We won't be in this together because some of the population have become whiny entitled morons"

Indeed they have.

However, they are a minority, albeit it a noisy one.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

Nothing you can do. Just accept it and get on with what you are doing.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"There will always be the loopholers - the I don't have to's - the rest of you are stupid because I know better.

It's life I guess.

No. Sadly we are not all in this together.

On another note - just fooking ignore them lol. "

hmmmmmmm......

LATEST GOVERNMENT BULLETIN.

As of today, it will be illegal to lick plug sockets.

A fine of £100 will be issued for anyone found breaching this rule.

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"There will always be the loopholers - the I don't have to's - the rest of you are stupid because I know better.

It's life I guess.

No. Sadly we are not all in this together.

On another note - just fooking ignore them lol.

hmmmmmmm......

LATEST GOVERNMENT BULLETIN.

As of today, it will be illegal to lick plug sockets.

A fine of £100 will be issued for anyone found breaching this rule.

"

Is this a metaphor for something that you are trying to say? If it is, I just can't see it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes it will be a devided society like brexit but these ones will be known as the irresponsible ones too.

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan
over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact


"There will always be the loopholers - the I don't have to's - the rest of you are stupid because I know better.

It's life I guess.

No. Sadly we are not all in this together.

On another note - just fooking ignore them lol.

hmmmmmmm......

LATEST GOVERNMENT BULLETIN.

As of today, it will be illegal to lick plug sockets.

A fine of £100 will be issued for anyone found breaching this rule.

Is this a metaphor for something that you are trying to say? If it is, I just can't see it. "

I think this is an attempt at reverse psychology so that those who are reluctant to follow covid guidelines will also fail to the adhere to the above and electrocute themselves. Maybe?

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By *iddle ManMan
over a year ago

Walsall

I think for me the whole Dominic Cummings thing signalled the end for a lot of people I know, hate to go on again, but the way the government made excuses to cover him was the biggest loopholes exposed.

I've been pretty good and still wary of a lot, put majority of people I know just see it as a joke now and do as they please while laughing at me for still trying to follow the guidelines.

Back to OP I don't think we have ever been in it together, so many selfish people and folks be ding the rules to suit.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"

Is this a metaphor for something that you are trying to say? If it is, I just can't see it. "

No

Tell people they can't do something, then stand back and watch them do it...

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

So it could be discribed as self-preservation?

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"I think this is an attempt at reverse psychology so that those who are reluctant to follow covid guidelines will also fail to the adhere to the above and electrocute themselves. Maybe? "

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"

Is this a metaphor for something that you are trying to say? If it is, I just can't see it.

No

Tell people they can't do something, then stand back and watch them do it..."

But it really does seem like most are doing it.

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

Club Meets Only


"There will always be the loopholers - the I don't have to's - the rest of you are stupid because I know better.

It's life I guess.

No. Sadly we are not all in this together.

On another note - just fooking ignore them lol.

hmmmmmmm......

LATEST GOVERNMENT BULLETIN.

As of today, it will be illegal to lick plug sockets.

A fine of £100 will be issued for anyone found breaching this rule.

"

You forgot to mention the socket should be switched on

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan
over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact


"So it could be discribed as self-preservation? "
it is every man for himself.

On the bright side... We will all be able to eat out and help out in a little over a week!

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"So it could be discribed as self-preservation? it is every man for himself.

On the bright side... We will all be able to eat out and help out in a little over a week! "

Yep. It will be last man standing.

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan
over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact


"There will always be the loopholers - the I don't have to's - the rest of you are stupid because I know better.

It's life I guess.

No. Sadly we are not all in this together.

On another note - just fooking ignore them lol.

hmmmmmmm......

LATEST GOVERNMENT BULLETIN.

As of today, it will be illegal to lick plug sockets.

A fine of £100 will be issued for anyone found breaching this rule.

You forgot to mention the socket should be switched on "

The advice should have been to get a heavy object or something with a sharp edge and not to smash it against one's head with full force. This government needs to stop giving the public unclear guidelines which are open to interpretation.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"

But it really does seem like most are doing it.

"

That means it's energy efficient as it'll only take out the tedious wannabe revolutionaries...

It's good to be green...

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"I think for me the whole Dominic Cummings thing signalled the end for a lot of people I know, hate to go on again, but the way the government made excuses to cover him was the biggest loopholes exposed.

I've been pretty good and still wary of a lot, put majority of people I know just see it as a joke now and do as they please while laughing at me for still trying to follow the guidelines.

Back to OP I don't think we have ever been in it together, so many selfish people and folks be ding the rules to suit. "

Agreed.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"You forgot to mention the socket should be switched on "

It's part of the cunning plan... you don't describe every last detail as that adds authenticity...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have noticed alot good people trying do this

BUT

Also a number of people find loopholes excuses why not to be in it together

Stop finding excuses we should be in this together

STILL OVER 120 DEATHS YESTERDAY

Depends if you believe in this unscientific nonsense or not.

If masks work as alleged (they don't but that's another story). It doesn't matter if someone isn't wearing one because yours will protect you.

If as alleged masks stop the spread by 'trapping' the virus where are all the bio hazard bins and disposal points. The country is littered with discarded face coverings.

All total nonsense designed to soften up a public for vaccination.

By the way the same people saying 'we're all in it together' are usually the same people who were stocking up on toilet rolls and baby foods at the expense of others back in March."

Maybe if you ever need a surgeon you can tell them they don’t need to wear a mask when they operate on you

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"You forgot to mention the socket should be switched on

It's part of the cunning plan... you don't describe every last detail as that adds authenticity... "

What's a socket? (adding authenticity for the hard of hearing, seeing, reading)

Or..

Big assumption that everyone has a socket to lick...

Or..

Not all sockets are the same

..

Or..my sockets so big it needs to be licked twice...

Or.. If you lick the socket wrong you may as well not lick the socket at all

Or.. Some people have been licking the same dirty socket for weeks now..

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"You forgot to mention the socket should be switched on

It's part of the cunning plan... you don't describe every last detail as that adds authenticity...

What's a socket? (adding authenticity for the hard of hearing, seeing, reading)

Or..

Big assumption that everyone has a socket to lick...

Or..

Not all sockets are the same

..

Or..my sockets so big it needs to be licked twice...

Or.. If you lick the socket wrong you may as well not lick the socket at all

Or.. Some people have been licking the same dirty socket for weeks now.. "

Or.. it's my socket and I'll fry if I want to...

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London


"Does make you wonder how we got through World Wars.

“Gas masks? No mate, I’m not wearing them...”"

Nailed it.

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

Club Meets Only


"You forgot to mention the socket should be switched on

It's part of the cunning plan... you don't describe every last detail as that adds authenticity...

What's a socket? (adding authenticity for the hard of hearing, seeing, reading)

Or..

Big assumption that everyone has a socket to lick...

Or..

Not all sockets are the same

..

Or..my sockets so big it needs to be licked twice...

Or.. If you lick the socket wrong you may as well not lick the socket at all

Or.. Some people have been licking the same dirty socket for weeks now..

Or.. it's my socket and I'll fry if I want to... "

Cheers! I sang that!

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

Club Meets Only


"You forgot to mention the socket should be switched on

It's part of the cunning plan... you don't describe every last detail as that adds authenticity...

What's a socket? (adding authenticity for the hard of hearing, seeing, reading)

Or..

Big assumption that everyone has a socket to lick...

Or..

Not all sockets are the same

..

Or..my sockets so big it needs to be licked twice...

Or.. If you lick the socket wrong you may as well not lick the socket at all

Or.. Some people have been licking the same dirty socket for weeks now.. "

I think you just about covered every angle there

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"Cheers! I sang that! "

You're gonna be singing that in your head all day now...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No we aren't in this together, that much has been made very clear

Clap for the NHS every week but deny pay raises for nurses and block policies to protect the NHS from being bought.

No, the divide is clear, Mrs works for the NHS and everyone clapping every week while not social distancing was just an insult. "

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By *on12xx OP   Man
over a year ago

leeds


"So it could be discribed as self-preservation? "

Please take a balanced view

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

The way I see it is this. Living in society involves rights and responsibilities.

Personal rights are incredibly important and deserve to be fought for. But during a pandemic what's most important is responsibilities.

I cannot make the government, or other people, behave reasonably, although I can put the case for doing so. (I'm not arguing specifics here, just in general terms)

I can be mindful of the situation and take responsibility for my risk to those around me. Social distancing, high levels of hygiene, staying aware, wearing a mask. I've registered my interest in a vaccine trial. I stay aware of the scientific and public health developments. I'll be getting the flu jab. I try to maintain my health. I choose to abstain from optional activities (pub, restaurant, gym) to stay away from others.

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By *all me FlikWoman
over a year ago

Galaxy Far Far Away


"The way I see it is this. Living in society involves rights and responsibilities.

Personal rights are incredibly important and deserve to be fought for. But during a pandemic what's most important is responsibilities.

I cannot make the government, or other people, behave reasonably, although I can put the case for doing so. (I'm not arguing specifics here, just in general terms)

I can be mindful of the situation and take responsibility for my risk to those around me. Social distancing, high levels of hygiene, staying aware, wearing a mask. I've registered my interest in a vaccine trial. I stay aware of the scientific and public health developments. I'll be getting the flu jab. I try to maintain my health. I choose to abstain from optional activities (pub, restaurant, gym) to stay away from others."

The perfect answer

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

No. We haven't all been in this together right from the start.

How can the authorities expect people to separate themselves from their friends and families, wear face coverings and abstain from activities and disrupt their lives massively when the authorities themselves are unable to follow their own rules (and get caught, very publicly, breaking them)?

Even the chief advisor who was instrumental in the UKs lockdown policy was busted red handed flouting it (on more than one occasion) to have illicit trysts with his married lover.

Scotland's health officer was caught out during the initial lockdown visiting her second home while telling people not to see their own families.

This in it together theory was doomed from the get go!

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton


"I don't know a single person who is still on board with any of it.

I think that's the generally mentality now."

That's interesting because IRL I don't personally know anyone who *isn't* on board.

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By *hrobberMan
over a year ago

North West


"Have noticed alot good people trying do this

BUT

Also a number of people find loopholes excuses why not to be in it together

Stop finding excuses we should be in this together

STILL OVER 120 DEATHS YESTERDAY

Depends if you believe in this unscientific nonsense or not.

If masks work as alleged (they don't but that's another story). It doesn't matter if someone isn't wearing one because yours will protect you.

If as alleged masks stop the spread by 'trapping' the virus where are all the bio hazard bins and disposal points. The country is littered with discarded face coverings.

All total nonsense designed to soften up a public for vaccination.

By the way the same people saying 'we're all in it together' are usually the same people who were stocking up on toilet rolls and baby foods at the expense of others back in March."

Some say Bill Gates is behind it all mind you they also think the earth is flat and the moon is made of cheese.

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By *on12xx OP   Man
over a year ago

leeds

What a selfish UK we live in

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By *hrobberMan
over a year ago

North West


"What a selfish UK we live in"

Very sadly

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan
over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact


"I don't know a single person who is still on board with any of it.

I think that's the generally mentality now.

That's interesting because IRL I don't personally know anyone who *isn't* on board."

It is hard for me to say how strict people are adhering. People I know have a more lax attitude now. They adhere where it is required in public and whilst nobody is having parties, they gather for dinners etc where I doubt social distancing is practiced. I have not watched the news for a couple of weeks now and besides Fab, I haven't heard of coronavirus being mentioned at all by anyone.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge


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LOL,I've also noticed a lot of people from this site on a different thread sorta bragging about what their going to be getting upto with complete strangers from all over the county at a certain swing event coming up next month,

Wearing a mask to go out for a loaf of bread pales into insignificance, give me a break!

That "event" has the potential to be another "Covid19 Ground Zero", I hope the hotels these people are using have been informed and know what to expect."

Least it won't be dodgy sausage cooking this time!!

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

There are people who refuse to wear a seatbelt, when in a car.

Do we really expect everyone to wear a mask when they have been told they have to.

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton


"Have noticed alot good people trying do this

BUT

Also a number of people find loopholes excuses why not to be in it together

Stop finding excuses we should be in this together

STILL OVER 120 DEATHS YESTERDAY

"

We should perhaps acknowledge that we are not - and never have been - all in this together. Aside from the virus having a greater impact on BAME communities and the socially-deprived, the Powers That Be have followed their own rules from the beginning.

"We are all in this together" is the bull they feed us to get us in line.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

We are all in this together, but some of us are more in it than others...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Back in march the telegraph printed an article saying masks makes you more prone to getting an infection.

Some people have use the freedom of information act and asked the Cabinet office to provide scientific proof of the virus. Their response was that they didnt have any?!

They did lie about iraq... about 250 million a day to nhs during brexit....

Lets see what else did they lie about?

Death rates?

Double counting tests?

Reliability of tests?

Track and trace?

The model that predicted what was it 500000 deaths if no.lockdown butnthey just disnt mention that it included those dying under normal circumstances.

What else did wankock said? "Under normawl circumstances 10k ppl in care would die per month"

What was death figures for 2019? Over 600k thats 1.5k per day.

Will this ever go away....

If we never heard about cv19... wouls you know there was a pandemic or would these 'extra' deaths be put down tragically as flu or poor health?

We clapped for the nhs and they gave us singing and dancing videos whilst telling those in pain and in need to go home.

No. Not happy. We need answers and proof.

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By *ichiebigMan
over a year ago

nenagh


"Does make you wonder how we got through World Wars.

“Gas masks? No mate, I’m not wearing them...”

Unfortunately society has changed since World wars"

You didn't get through 2 world wars, your grand parents generation got through them, stop talking this English "we won the war "bullshit, and face up to the challenge that this virus is presenting TODAY

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By *on12xx OP   Man
over a year ago

leeds

This is what's happens when not in it together

2nd wave

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland


"Back in march the telegraph printed an article saying masks makes you more prone to getting an infection.

Some people have use the freedom of information act and asked the Cabinet office to provide scientific proof of the virus. Their response was that they didnt have any?!

They did lie about iraq... about 250 million a day to nhs during brexit....

Lets see what else did they lie about?

Death rates?

Double counting tests?

Reliability of tests?

Track and trace?

The model that predicted what was it 500000 deaths if no.lockdown butnthey just disnt mention that it included those dying under normal circumstances.

What else did wankock said? "Under normawl circumstances 10k ppl in care would die per month"

What was death figures for 2019? Over 600k thats 1.5k per day.

Will this ever go away....

If we never heard about cv19... wouls you know there was a pandemic or would these 'extra' deaths be put down tragically as flu or poor health?

We clapped for the nhs and they gave us singing and dancing videos whilst telling those in pain and in need to go home.

No. Not happy. We need answers and proof.

"

It might be helpful if you backed up this with links.

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London


"There are people who refuse to wear a seatbelt, when in a car.

Do we really expect everyone to wear a mask when they have been told they have to."

The first category - idiots who don’t care about their own lives.

The second category - idiots who care neither about their own lives nor the lives of others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No. We haven't all been in this together right from the start.

How can the authorities expect people to separate themselves from their friends and families, wear face coverings and abstain from activities and disrupt their lives massively when the authorities themselves are unable to follow their own rules (and get caught, very publicly, breaking them)?

Even the chief advisor who was instrumental in the UKs lockdown policy was busted red handed flouting it (on more than one occasion) to have illicit trysts with his married lover.

Scotland's health officer was caught out during the initial lockdown visiting her second home while telling people not to see their own families.

This in it together theory was doomed from the get go!"

This is a huge part of the problem

Why would people trust or believe anything the Government or their "advisors" tell them when they have been caught out on more than one occasion themselves

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By *ootykMan
over a year ago

lurgan

The won't get their NWO fuck them and the mask's, vaccines , social distancing and whatever else bullshit terms and phrases they use. Its controlling the masses with fear a blind dog on the street could see it. Turn off the news and waken up

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland


"The won't get their NWO fuck them and the mask's, vaccines , social distancing and whatever else bullshit terms and phrases they use. Its controlling the masses with fear a blind dog on the street could see it. Turn off the news and waken up "

Who is controlling the masses?

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By *ootykMan
over a year ago

lurgan


"The won't get their NWO fuck them and the mask's, vaccines , social distancing and whatever else bullshit terms and phrases they use. Its controlling the masses with fear a blind dog on the street could see it. Turn off the news and waken up

Who is controlling the masses?

"

it's the few that rule the masses. The puppet masters who are pulling the politicians strings writing their scripts spoon feeding their agendas to anyone watching or listening to anything on state broadcasting or elsewhere. The World heath organisation Bill gates an co

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"The won't get their NWO fuck them and the mask's, vaccines , social distancing and whatever else bullshit terms and phrases they use. Its controlling the masses with fear a blind dog on the street could see it. Turn off the news and waken up

Who is controlling the masses?

it's the few that rule the masses. The puppet masters who are pulling the politicians strings writing their scripts spoon feeding their agendas to anyone watching or listening to anything on state broadcasting or elsewhere. The World heath organisation Bill gates an co "

Bill Gates crops up a lot, such evil acts he pursues, like improving health prospects for millions of people

There's no equality of opportunity in general and those who manage things at a micro level in power aren't generally that interested in it. You'll see this very easily via the extreme right wingers, such as Trump, Orban, Johnson, Farage et al, who spout good soundbites for the masses to recite and get their votes for changes that will reduce their rights and opportunities.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The won't get their NWO fuck them and the mask's, vaccines , social distancing and whatever else bullshit terms and phrases they use. Its controlling the masses with fear a blind dog on the street could see it. Turn off the news and waken up "

Fecking hell

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By *ootykMan
over a year ago

lurgan


"The won't get their NWO fuck them and the mask's, vaccines , social distancing and whatever else bullshit terms and phrases they use. Its controlling the masses with fear a blind dog on the street could see it. Turn off the news and waken up

Who is controlling the masses?

it's the few that rule the masses. The puppet masters who are pulling the politicians strings writing their scripts spoon feeding their agendas to anyone watching or listening to anything on state broadcasting or elsewhere. The World heath organisation Bill gates an co

Bill Gates crops up a lot, such evil acts he pursues, like improving health prospects for millions of people

There's no equality of opportunity in general and those who manage things at a micro level in power aren't generally that interested in it. You'll see this very easily via the extreme right wingers, such as Trump, Orban, Johnson, Farage et al, who spout good soundbites for the masses to recite and get their votes for changes that will reduce their rights and opportunities. "

Bill gates the richest unqualified doctor in the world. He has spoke many times about depopulation openly. What he has already done with vaccines is just evil. Check out his history with polio vaccines for a start . Not a nice person at all. His father was part of Bush seniors eugenics team . That tells you all you need to know, he comes from bad stock evil breads evil

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

I can't find my tin foil hat

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By *ootykMan
over a year ago

lurgan


"I can't find my tin foil hat"
Haha good one. Just keep paying you're license fee and sharing their bullshit propaganda. They'll prob advise you on where you can get you next supply of tinfoil. If not I know a man getting some in from China a lorry load of it keep you ticking over while you are glued to the British broadcasting cooperation that you fund with you're license fee. They're real trustworthy too

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple
over a year ago

Chester


"I can't find my tin foil hat Haha good one. Just keep paying you're license fee and sharing their bullshit propaganda. They'll prob advise you on where you can get you next supply of tinfoil. If not I know a man getting some in from China a lorry load of it keep you ticking over while you are glued to the British broadcasting cooperation that you fund with you're license fee. They're real trustworthy too "

Saved all my takeaway foil, extra safe us

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By *az080378Woman
over a year ago

Cromer


"The won't get their NWO fuck them and the mask's, vaccines , social distancing and whatever else bullshit terms and phrases they use. Its controlling the masses with fear a blind dog on the street could see it. Turn off the news and waken up

Who is controlling the masses?

it's the few that rule the masses. The puppet masters who are pulling the politicians strings writing their scripts spoon feeding their agendas to anyone watching or listening to anything on state broadcasting or elsewhere. The World heath organisation Bill gates an co

Bill Gates crops up a lot, such evil acts he pursues, like improving health prospects for millions of people

There's no equality of opportunity in general and those who manage things at a micro level in power aren't generally that interested in it. You'll see this very easily via the extreme right wingers, such as Trump, Orban, Johnson, Farage et al, who spout good soundbites for the masses to recite and get their votes for changes that will reduce their rights and opportunities. Bill gates the richest unqualified doctor in the world. He has spoke many times about depopulation openly. What he has already done with vaccines is just evil. Check out his history with polio vaccines for a start . Not a nice person at all. His father was part of Bush seniors eugenics team . That tells you all you need to know, he comes from bad stock evil breads evil"

Jeez,maybe fact check and research him properly rather than believing all the crap you read on Facebook,all the Bill Gates stuff really drives me nuts.

The guy has put more money into the health of the world than you or I could ever dream of and this obsession idiots have him him and depopulation is total shit.

It really does pay to educate yourself.

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London

I think people “educating” themselves is a large part of the problem...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You'll always get tin hatted conspiracy nutters with their crazy theories about Bill Gates being a good person trying to save the world.

The truth about Bill Gates couldn't be more different.

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By *az080378Woman
over a year ago

Cromer


"You'll always get tin hatted conspiracy nutters with their crazy theories about Bill Gates being a good person trying to save the world.

The truth about Bill Gates couldn't be more different."

And the truth is?....

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By *ootykMan
over a year ago

lurgan

Its laughable how compliant people really are. There is an announcement today apparently you have to put you're mask on and put you're right hand into the fire at the the same time . that works for numbing the pain of heavy bullshit consumption

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"You'll always get tin hatted conspiracy nutters with their crazy theories about Bill Gates being a good person trying to save the world.

The truth about Bill Gates couldn't be more different."

I'd rather trust his judgment and motives than the weirdos who keep banging on about how he's the devil incarnate.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"I can't find my tin foil hat Haha good one. Just keep paying you're license fee and sharing their bullshit propaganda. They'll prob advise you on where you can get you next supply of tinfoil. If not I know a man getting some in from China a lorry load of it keep you ticking over while you are glued to the British broadcasting cooperation that you fund with you're license fee. They're real trustworthy too "

I suppose you follow Karen on facetube

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's funny, the people referring to tin foil hats go shopping in a facemask and gloves!

As for Bill Gates, if he's such a good guy, why are there so many pics of him with Jeffery Epstein? Have a look in to his vaccination programs in India, Africa and South East Asia. His 'philanthropy' has also seen his personal wealth increase massively, seems more like investment than charity!

Anyone who thinks health comes in a syringe is more than welcome to my dose too!

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By *az080378Woman
over a year ago

Cromer


"It's funny, the people referring to tin foil hats go shopping in a facemask and gloves!

As for Bill Gates, if he's such a good guy, why are there so many pics of him with Jeffery Epstein? Have a look in to his vaccination programs in India, Africa and South East Asia. His 'philanthropy' has also seen his personal wealth increase massively, seems more like investment than charity!

Anyone who thinks health comes in a syringe is more than welcome to my dose too!"

I have looked into the facts regarding his vaccination programmes but ignored all the disproven conspiracy theories

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"It's funny, the people referring to tin foil hats go shopping in a facemask and gloves!

As for Bill Gates, if he's such a good guy, why are there so many pics of him with Jeffery Epstein? Have a look in to his vaccination programs in India, Africa and South East Asia. His 'philanthropy' has also seen his personal wealth increase massively, seems more like investment than charity!

Anyone who thinks health comes in a syringe is more than welcome to my dose too!"

Hmm. A respiratory disease that kills people is out and about, and covering our nose and mouth is to be looked down upon? Ok.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"It's funny, the people referring to tin foil hats go shopping in a facemask and gloves!"

Why is that funny?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did your research include this? https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/nov/28/polio-outbreaks-in-four-african-countries-caused-by-mutation-of-strain-in-vaccine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's funny, the people referring to tin foil hats go shopping in a facemask and gloves!

Why is that funny?"

Paranoia is normally the preserve of tin foil hat wearers!!

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By *az080378Woman
over a year ago

Cromer


"Did your research include this? https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/nov/28/polio-outbreaks-in-four-african-countries-caused-by-mutation-of-strain-in-vaccine"

Yes , it's been fact checked

As has the Jeffery Epstein claims......

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"It's funny, the people referring to tin foil hats go shopping in a facemask and gloves!

Why is that funny?

Paranoia is normally the preserve of tin foil hat wearers!!"

This just in, it's not paranoid if there's an actual threat.

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland


"The won't get their NWO fuck them and the mask's, vaccines , social distancing and whatever else bullshit terms and phrases they use. Its controlling the masses with fear a blind dog on the street could see it. Turn off the news and waken up

Who is controlling the masses?

it's the few that rule the masses. The puppet masters who are pulling the politicians strings writing their scripts spoon feeding their agendas to anyone watching or listening to anything on state broadcasting or elsewhere. The World heath organisation Bill gates an co "

So the puppet masters are pulling the strings of all politicians globally? They've got all state broadcasters under their control too?

You really have lost the plot.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"The won't get their NWO fuck them and the mask's, vaccines , social distancing and whatever else bullshit terms and phrases they use. Its controlling the masses with fear a blind dog on the street could see it. Turn off the news and waken up

Who is controlling the masses?

it's the few that rule the masses. The puppet masters who are pulling the politicians strings writing their scripts spoon feeding their agendas to anyone watching or listening to anything on state broadcasting or elsewhere. The World heath organisation Bill gates an co

So the puppet masters are pulling the strings of all politicians globally? They've got all state broadcasters under their control too?

You really have lost the plot."

Yeah, but see, that only looks crazy because we're brainwashed sheep who can't see the truth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's funny, the people referring to tin foil hats go shopping in a facemask and gloves!

Why is that funny?

Paranoia is normally the preserve of tin foil hat wearers!!

This just in, it's not paranoid if there's an actual threat."

Yup, and a conspiracy theory become fact when it's proven

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"It's funny, the people referring to tin foil hats go shopping in a facemask and gloves!

Why is that funny?

Paranoia is normally the preserve of tin foil hat wearers!!"

Following the law is paranoia?

Do you follow the law or are you going to pay the potential fine?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"It's funny, the people referring to tin foil hats go shopping in a facemask and gloves!

Why is that funny?

Paranoia is normally the preserve of tin foil hat wearers!!

This just in, it's not paranoid if there's an actual threat.

Yup, and a conspiracy theory become fact when it's proven"

So... Where's the evidence of the conspiracy theories?

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"Yup, and a conspiracy theory become fact when it's proven"

Well as they are all the same dull rhetoric that has been disproven repeatedly, I wouldn't hold your breath...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's funny, the people referring to tin foil hats go shopping in a facemask and gloves!

Why is that funny?

Paranoia is normally the preserve of tin foil hat wearers!!

This just in, it's not paranoid if there's an actual threat.

Yup, and a conspiracy theory become fact when it's proven

So... Where's the evidence of the conspiracy theories?"

Where's the evidence your gloves and mask work? 'the science' is definitely not settled on either

Oh and whilst we're talking evidence. They've yet to prove Covid-19 actually exists. But a lack of evidence hasn't stopped all the events of the last few months!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"It's funny, the people referring to tin foil hats go shopping in a facemask and gloves!

Why is that funny?

Paranoia is normally the preserve of tin foil hat wearers!!

This just in, it's not paranoid if there's an actual threat.

Yup, and a conspiracy theory become fact when it's proven

So... Where's the evidence of the conspiracy theories?

Where's the evidence your gloves and mask work? 'the science' is definitely not settled on either

Oh and whilst we're talking evidence. They've yet to prove Covid-19 actually exists. But a lack of evidence hasn't stopped all the events of the last few months!"

Oh for a facepalm emoji

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/masks-dont-work-covid-a-review-of-science-relevant-to-covide-19-social-policy

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"Oh and whilst we're talking evidence. They've yet to prove Covid-19 actually exists. But a lack of evidence hasn't stopped all the events of the last few months!"

And it's comments like that which totally undermine anything that conspiracy theorists say as far as I'm concerned.

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland


"It's funny, the people referring to tin foil hats go shopping in a facemask and gloves!

Why is that funny?

Paranoia is normally the preserve of tin foil hat wearers!!

This just in, it's not paranoid if there's an actual threat.

Yup, and a conspiracy theory become fact when it's proven

So... Where's the evidence of the conspiracy theories?

Where's the evidence your gloves and mask work? 'the science' is definitely not settled on either

Oh and whilst we're talking evidence. They've yet to prove Covid-19 actually exists. But a lack of evidence hasn't stopped all the events of the last few months!"

Who are "they"?

What kind of "proof" are you looking for? The whole of the science community including those who have sequenced the virus are conning us or being conned?

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By *khotcouple20Couple
over a year ago

Hertfordshire

Wow. This is an interesting read lol..

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By *upergirthukMan
over a year ago

Liverpool UK


"I think for me the whole Dominic Cummings thing signalled the end for a lot of people I know, hate to go on again, but the way the government made excuses to cover him was the biggest loopholes exposed.

I've been pretty good and still wary of a lot, put majority of people I know just see it as a joke now and do as they please while laughing at me for still trying to follow the guidelines.

Back to OP I don't think we have ever been in it together, so many selfish people and folks be ding the rules to suit. "

This and any trust I had in the government giving a fuck went out of the window. This is purely political now and not a public health issue for them while the public scrambles around confused wondering who to believe and which is the truth and which is lies. The handling of Covid-19 has been a complete shambles in this country from the late introduction of lockdown to the ridiculous easing of lockdown and its policing.

This country needs to question if our political system needs to be reconsidered as for me it doesn't work whoever is in power.

I choose not to go in places that require I wear a mask. They said they only stop with the transmission of the virus if you have it so how or why have they suddenly changed tac? I've been mostly sheilding or self-isolating since late February with a handful of journeys out all following and with the advice given to me by these jokers but come the 1st of August I will live my life how I want as clearly the government has now clue and is grasping at straws with this last ruling for compulsory masks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s all crazy people only looking out for themselves now.

I read a post by a business analyst few days ago and he said

When lockdown started people became social and happy (strangers spoke and people smiled when out exercising) but as it’s reverting to normalish ways selfishness has reared again.

It’s funny though when you see people rebel now and complain but months ago when all off for months getting paid to stay home people where happy accept it all.

Shame all these people who said it is a hoax didn’t keep working and fighting against lockdown then the economy would be still strong.

Food for thought

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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago

Merseyside


"It’s all crazy people only looking out for themselves now.

I read a post by a business analyst few days ago and he said

When lockdown started people became social and happy (strangers spoke and people smiled when out exercising) but as it’s reverting to normalish ways selfishness has reared again.

It’s funny though when you see people rebel now and complain but months ago when all off for months getting paid to stay home people where happy accept it all.

Shame all these people who said it is a hoax didn’t keep working and fighting against lockdown then the economy would be still strong.

Food for thought"

maybe some had no choice but to stop working. maybe some think the government are at the bollocks now. or maybe some have lost faith in the government. food for thought hey.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This whole 'people did what they were told during the war' is bullshit propaganda to get you to do as you're told.

My grandad lived with his grandparents who refused to go to the air raid shelter when told and they lived in an area of Glasgow very likely to be bombed. My grandma was evacuated with her mother and they came back to the same area of Glasgow within weeks because she hated being on a farm.

Thinking everyone did as they were told is a total fantasy and stop spreading it.

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By *on12xx OP   Man
over a year ago

leeds

Consequence of people's selfish behaviour

2nd wave on the way

Why oh why did 600k people think going abroad was a wise move or was it purely selfish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Consequence of people's selfish behaviour

2nd wave on the way

Why oh why did 600k people think going abroad was a wise move or was it purely selfish "

Maybe they booked the holiday last year and would of lost their money if they cancelled?

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By *on12xx OP   Man
over a year ago

leeds

Maybe but

Money or health?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe but

Money or health? "

Would you like to throw away thousands of pounds you worked hard for ?

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By *on12xx OP   Man
over a year ago

leeds

Yes, if it meant not going to a funeral

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By *on12xx OP   Man
over a year ago

leeds

If you were going now you would had to pay deposit

Then balance April may

So why not lose deposit

Seems strange to pay balance middle of lockdiwn

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland


"Consequence of people's selfish behaviour

2nd wave on the way

Why oh why did 600k people think going abroad was a wise move or was it purely selfish "

Spain's rates were lower than ours for many weeks. Many believed that it was safer to be in Spain that it was to remain in the UK. Despite the increase in cases in Spain, most areas that Brits go to still have a far lower number of positive tests than the UK. I caught the end of an news item. On tv a few days ago showing that the incidence rate in uk is 14 (per 100k?) compared with 3-5 in the canaries.

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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago

Merseyside


"Consequence of people's selfish behaviour

2nd wave on the way

Why oh why did 600k people think going abroad was a wise move or was it purely selfish "

theyll be no second wave. Spain record covid differently to us. things ARE GETTING BETTER here. simple

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland


"Consequence of people's selfish behaviour

2nd wave on the way

Why oh why did 600k people think going abroad was a wise move or was it purely selfish

theyll be no second wave. Spain record covid differently to us. things ARE GETTING BETTER here. simple "

Can you explain the differences in how spain and the uk report and how this demonstrates that there will be no second wave.

PS there were more covid deaths in England in the last 7 days than the 7 days prior to that. This is the first time there has been a weekly increase in since peak in April.

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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago

Merseyside


"Consequence of people's selfish behaviour

2nd wave on the way

Why oh why did 600k people think going abroad was a wise move or was it purely selfish

theyll be no second wave. Spain record covid differently to us. things ARE GETTING BETTER here. simple

Can you explain the differences in how spain and the uk report and how this demonstrates that there will be no second wave.

PS there were more covid deaths in England in the last 7 days than the 7 days prior to that. This is the first time there has been a weekly increase in since peak in April."

94% decrease in hospitalisations since April 12th yet one small tick up and your screaming 2nd wave?? 34% decrease in the last 2weeks also. things are improving. simple

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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago

Merseyside

aslo the week on week trends are and have been consistently dropping. i aint getting into something that will be proved one way or another in 4/5weeks time, its simply my opinion based on the data

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland


"Consequence of people's selfish behaviour

2nd wave on the way

Why oh why did 600k people think going abroad was a wise move or was it purely selfish

theyll be no second wave. Spain record covid differently to us. things ARE GETTING BETTER here. simple

Can you explain the differences in how spain and the uk report and how this demonstrates that there will be no second wave.

PS there were more covid deaths in England in the last 7 days than the 7 days prior to that. This is the first time there has been a weekly increase in since peak in April.

94% decrease in hospitalisations since April 12th yet one small tick up and your screaming 2nd wave?? 34% decrease in the last 2weeks also. things are improving. simple"

No, I was just pointing an observation and the end of my question. A question you have failed to answer...

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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago

Merseyside


"Consequence of people's selfish behaviour

2nd wave on the way

Why oh why did 600k people think going abroad was a wise move or was it purely selfish

theyll be no second wave. Spain record covid differently to us. things ARE GETTING BETTER here. simple

Can you explain the differences in how spain and the uk report and how this demonstrates that there will be no second wave.

PS there were more covid deaths in England in the last 7 days than the 7 days prior to that. This is the first time there has been a weekly increase in since peak in April.

94% decrease in hospitalisations since April 12th yet one small tick up and your screaming 2nd wave?? 34% decrease in the last 2weeks also. things are improving. simple

No, I was just pointing an observation and the end of my question. A question you have failed to answer..."

cheers mate. chat again in a few weeks about yours and my 2nd wave opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I see the armchair analysis continues.

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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago

Merseyside


"I see the armchair analysis continues. "

just a small difference of opinions

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland


"aslo the week on week trends are and have been consistently dropping. i aint getting into something that will be proved one way or another in 4/5weeks time, its simply my opinion based on the data"

Spain, germany and france. All consistently dropping before us and at a faster rate. Now on the rise. What are we doing right that will prevent the same from happening here?

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland


"Consequence of people's selfish behaviour

2nd wave on the way

Why oh why did 600k people think going abroad was a wise move or was it purely selfish

theyll be no second wave. Spain record covid differently to us. things ARE GETTING BETTER here. simple

Can you explain the differences in how spain and the uk report and how this demonstrates that there will be no second wave.

PS there were more covid deaths in England in the last 7 days than the 7 days prior to that. This is the first time there has been a weekly increase in since peak in April.

94% decrease in hospitalisations since April 12th yet one small tick up and your screaming 2nd wave?? 34% decrease in the last 2weeks also. things are improving. simple

No, I was just pointing an observation and the end of my question. A question you have failed to answer...

cheers mate. chat again in a few weeks about yours and my 2nd wave opinion "

So you can't tell me the differences between how spain counts and we count?

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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago

Merseyside


"aslo the week on week trends are and have been consistently dropping. i aint getting into something that will be proved one way or another in 4/5weeks time, its simply my opinion based on the data

Spain, germany and france. All consistently dropping before us and at a faster rate. Now on the rise. What are we doing right that will prevent the same from happening here?"

the vast vast majority are following the rules/guidlines.

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland


"aslo the week on week trends are and have been consistently dropping. i aint getting into something that will be proved one way or another in 4/5weeks time, its simply my opinion based on the data

Spain, germany and france. All consistently dropping before us and at a faster rate. Now on the rise. What are we doing right that will prevent the same from happening here?

the vast vast majority are following the rules/guidlines. "

And other countries are ignoring the rules/guidelines? If so, can you evidence this?

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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago

Merseyside


"Consequence of people's selfish behaviour

2nd wave on the way

Why oh why did 600k people think going abroad was a wise move or was it purely selfish

theyll be no second wave. Spain record covid differently to us. things ARE GETTING BETTER here. simple

Can you explain the differences in how spain and the uk report and how this demonstrates that there will be no second wave.

PS there were more covid deaths in England in the last 7 days than the 7 days prior to that. This is the first time there has been a weekly increase in since peak in April.

94% decrease in hospitalisations since April 12th yet one small tick up and your screaming 2nd wave?? 34% decrease in the last 2weeks also. things are improving. simple

No, I was just pointing an observation and the end of my question. A question you have failed to answer...

cheers mate. chat again in a few weeks about yours and my 2nd wave opinion

So you can't tell me the differences between how spain counts and we count? "

they are including the results of the antibody tests in new cases so that inflates their figures. you ok buddy??

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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago

Merseyside


"aslo the week on week trends are and have been consistently dropping. i aint getting into something that will be proved one way or another in 4/5weeks time, its simply my opinion based on the data

Spain, germany and france. All consistently dropping before us and at a faster rate. Now on the rise. What are we doing right that will prevent the same from happening here?

the vast vast majority are following the rules/guidlines.

And other countries are ignoring the rules/guidelines? If so, can you evidence this?

"

can you evidence your 2nd wave opinion?? as iv said its simply difference of opinions. you have yours. i have mine. time will tell

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland


"aslo the week on week trends are and have been consistently dropping. i aint getting into something that will be proved one way or another in 4/5weeks time, its simply my opinion based on the data

Spain, germany and france. All consistently dropping before us and at a faster rate. Now on the rise. What are we doing right that will prevent the same from happening here?

the vast vast majority are following the rules/guidlines.

And other countries are ignoring the rules/guidelines? If so, can you evidence this?

can you evidence your 2nd wave opinion?? as iv said its simply difference of opinions. you have yours. i have mine. time will tell "

No, because it's impossible to evidence something that hasn't happened which is why I am not claiming a 2nd wave. I am just pointing out the trends in other countries and asking you to evidence something you have claimed has happened. I.e. that other countries aren't following rules and guidelines.

So, can you please evidence the following :

1. Spain reports cases differently which is why uk won't have a 2nd wave

2. Other countries aren't following rules and guidelines.

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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago

Merseyside


"aslo the week on week trends are and have been consistently dropping. i aint getting into something that will be proved one way or another in 4/5weeks time, its simply my opinion based on the data

Spain, germany and france. All consistently dropping before us and at a faster rate. Now on the rise. What are we doing right that will prevent the same from happening here?

the vast vast majority are following the rules/guidlines.

And other countries are ignoring the rules/guidelines? If so, can you evidence this?

can you evidence your 2nd wave opinion?? as iv said its simply difference of opinions. you have yours. i have mine. time will tell

No, because it's impossible to evidence something that hasn't happened which is why I am not claiming a 2nd wave. I am just pointing out the trends in other countries and asking you to evidence something you have claimed has happened. I.e. that other countries aren't following rules and guidelines.

So, can you please evidence the following :

1. Spain reports cases differently which is why uk won't have a 2nd wave

2. Other countries aren't following rules and guidelines.

"

enjoy your day

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland


"aslo the week on week trends are and have been consistently dropping. i aint getting into something that will be proved one way or another in 4/5weeks time, its simply my opinion based on the data

Spain, germany and france. All consistently dropping before us and at a faster rate. Now on the rise. What are we doing right that will prevent the same from happening here?

the vast vast majority are following the rules/guidlines.

And other countries are ignoring the rules/guidelines? If so, can you evidence this?

can you evidence your 2nd wave opinion?? as iv said its simply difference of opinions. you have yours. i have mine. time will tell

No, because it's impossible to evidence something that hasn't happened which is why I am not claiming a 2nd wave. I am just pointing out the trends in other countries and asking you to evidence something you have claimed has happened. I.e. that other countries aren't following rules and guidelines.

So, can you please evidence the following :

1. Spain reports cases differently which is why uk won't have a 2nd wave

2. Other countries aren't following rules and guidelines.

enjoy your day "

Just as I thought...

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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago

Merseyside


"aslo the week on week trends are and have been consistently dropping. i aint getting into something that will be proved one way or another in 4/5weeks time, its simply my opinion based on the data

Spain, germany and france. All consistently dropping before us and at a faster rate. Now on the rise. What are we doing right that will prevent the same from happening here?

the vast vast majority are following the rules/guidlines.

And other countries are ignoring the rules/guidelines? If so, can you evidence this?

can you evidence your 2nd wave opinion?? as iv said its simply difference of opinions. you have yours. i have mine. time will tell

No, because it's impossible to evidence something that hasn't happened which is why I am not claiming a 2nd wave. I am just pointing out the trends in other countries and asking you to evidence something you have claimed has happened. I.e. that other countries aren't following rules and guidelines.

So, can you please evidence the following :

1. Spain reports cases differently which is why uk won't have a 2nd wave

2. Other countries aren't following rules and guidelines.

enjoy your day

Just as I thought..."

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland


"aslo the week on week trends are and have been consistently dropping. i aint getting into something that will be proved one way or another in 4/5weeks time, its simply my opinion based on the data

Spain, germany and france. All consistently dropping before us and at a faster rate. Now on the rise. What are we doing right that will prevent the same from happening here?

the vast vast majority are following the rules/guidlines.

And other countries are ignoring the rules/guidelines? If so, can you evidence this?

can you evidence your 2nd wave opinion?? as iv said its simply difference of opinions. you have yours. i have mine. time will tell

No, because it's impossible to evidence something that hasn't happened which is why I am not claiming a 2nd wave. I am just pointing out the trends in other countries and asking you to evidence something you have claimed has happened. I.e. that other countries aren't following rules and guidelines.

So, can you please evidence the following :

1. Spain reports cases differently which is why uk won't have a 2nd wave

2. Other countries aren't following rules and guidelines.

"

Might be able to shed to light on this for you. The outbreaks in Europe are being fuelled by 18-25 age group. Source WHO.

So what are they doing differently? I doubt it's that they aren't wearing masks in shops but more likely , they are behaving like 18-25 year olds...Now, as we came out lockdown a couple of weeks later, I suspect that the 18-25 age group in the UK are doing the same. Don't you??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have noticed alot good people trying do this

BUT

Also a number of people find loopholes excuses why not to be in it together

Stop finding excuses we should be in this together

STILL OVER 120 DEATHS YESTERDAY

"

We are not in this together!

I go to work and pay my taxes to cowards who hide.

Do you remember how society treated me when I had health issues and was unemployed?

Ohhh how convinient!

Well atleast I carried on working while COWARDS HID IN THEIR HOMES FROM A COUGH

Now your acting asif you are equal to me?

I am not appreciated!

I have a constant "fixed term contract"

My managers hid at home for 3 months!

Now you all crawl out of the woodwork and tell me "we are in this together"

It's insulting!

You deserve THE ORDER OF THE WHITE FEATHER!

covid is exagerated. You would know that if you were in a hospital or public place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you had real problems you would see how pathetic covid is.

If you were a nurse or doctor you would see how other people are behaving is irrational and cowardly. You would know how deaths are falsely recorded...you would know how the real statistics don't ad up to anything like the hysteria created.

I see a MASSIVE GAP IN SOCIETY...

I deserve a better contract so I can get a home and PROSTITUTE GIRLFRIEND/WIFE WITH NICE BUM

Have a better car and home so I can attract all the fake women.

Instead you stay at home shielding with her while I go and deal with your FAKE PANDEMIC

go wear the white feather. You are not equal to me you cowards

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By *arkbaneMan
over a year ago

East lerds


"No we aren't in this together, that much has been made very clear

Clap for the NHS every week but deny pay raises for nurses and block policies to protect the NHS from being bought.

No, the divide is clear, Mrs works for the NHS and everyone clapping every week while not social distancing was just an insult. "

Well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you had real problems you would see how pathetic covid is.

If you were a nurse or doctor you would see how other people are behaving is irrational and cowardly. You would know how deaths are falsely recorded...you would know how the real statistics don't ad up to anything like the hysteria created.

I see a MASSIVE GAP IN SOCIETY...

I deserve a better contract so I can get a home and PROSTITUTE GIRLFRIEND/WIFE WITH NICE BUM

Have a better car and home so I can attract all the fake women.

Instead you stay at home shielding with her while I go and deal with your FAKE PANDEMIC

go wear the white feather. You are not equal to me you cowards

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you had real problems you would see how pathetic covid is.

If you were a nurse or doctor you would see how other people are behaving is irrational and cowardly. You would know how deaths are falsely recorded...you would know how the real statistics don't ad up to anything like the hysteria created.

I see a MASSIVE GAP IN SOCIETY...

I deserve a better contract so I can get a home and PROSTITUTE GIRLFRIEND/WIFE WITH NICE BUM

Have a better car and home so I can attract all the fake women.

Instead you stay at home shielding with her while I go and deal with your FAKE PANDEMIC

go wear the white feather. You are not equal to me you cowards

"

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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago

birmingham

Bill Gates should have no more day on vaccine policy than the poorest man on earth

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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago

birmingham

To those trying to open peoples eyes to the propoganda going on - don't bother

“It's Easier to Fool People Than It Is to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled.” – Mark Twain.

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland


"Bill Gates should have no more day on vaccine policy than the poorest man on earth"

Will you be attending his trial?

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"aslo the week on week trends are and have been consistently dropping. i aint getting into something that will be proved one way or another in 4/5weeks time, its simply my opinion based on the data

Spain, germany and france. All consistently dropping before us and at a faster rate. Now on the rise. What are we doing right that will prevent the same from happening here?

the vast vast majority are following the rules/guidlines.

And other countries are ignoring the rules/guidelines? If so, can you evidence this?

can you evidence your 2nd wave opinion?? as iv said its simply difference of opinions. you have yours. i have mine. time will tell

No, because it's impossible to evidence something that hasn't happened which is why I am not claiming a 2nd wave. I am just pointing out the trends in other countries and asking you to evidence something you have claimed has happened. I.e. that other countries aren't following rules and guidelines.

So, can you please evidence the following :

1. Spain reports cases differently which is why uk won't have a 2nd wave

2. Other countries aren't following rules and guidelines.

Might be able to shed to light on this for you. The outbreaks in Europe are being fuelled by 18-25 age group. Source WHO.

So what are they doing differently? I doubt it's that they aren't wearing masks in shops but more likely , they are behaving like 18-25 year olds...Now, as we came out lockdown a couple of weeks later, I suspect that the 18-25 age group in the UK are doing the same. Don't you??

"

Absolutely, and how many live with their parents who are probably in their 50's ?

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By *upergirthukMan
over a year ago

Liverpool UK


"It’s all crazy people only looking out for themselves now.

I read a post by a business analyst few days ago and he said

When lockdown started people became social and happy (strangers spoke and people smiled when out exercising) but as it’s reverting to normalish ways selfishness has reared again.

It’s funny though when you see people rebel now and complain but months ago when all off for months getting paid to stay home people where happy accept it all.

Shame all these people who said it is a hoax didn’t keep working and fighting against lockdown then the economy would be still strong.

Food for thought"

Funnily enough having been without a contract for a year I got a contract which started the day before lockdown. It is a key worker role and it is working from home lockdown and thereafter. I'm so grateful to have gotten it because I'd be struggling mentally and financially if I hadn't.

The economy by the way was well on its way to being screwed without Covids influence due to Cameron holding a referendum and not preparing for both potential outcomes. How he is still walking free with such negligence of his duties as PM is ridiculous and beyond me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you were going now you would had to pay deposit

Then balance April may

So why not lose deposit

Seems strange to pay balance middle of lockdiwn "

I try and pay as quickly as possible so it's out the way.

In fact I dont know anyone who waits until the balance is due.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have noticed alot good people trying do this

BUT

Also a number of people find loopholes excuses why not to be in it together

Stop finding excuses we should be in this together

STILL OVER 120 DEATHS YESTERDAY

"

6 new C19 admissions today, 2 critical transfers from Rochdale who are concerned about their capacity and another member of our team off after swabbing positive. It’s easier but still ever present for me... 0 deaths and 1 discharged today so a clap and no tears though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I'm loving the new rules at the gym. No actual restrictions worth worrying about but the doomers are too scared to leave their houses so there's never more than 3 people in.

It's a wonderful time to be getting back in shape :D

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I'm loving the new rules at the gym. No actual restrictions worth worrying about but the doomers are too scared to leave their houses so there's never more than 3 people in.

It's a wonderful time to be getting back in shape :D "

Haha it's great ain't it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has anyone actually lost a family member to this virus?

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"Has anyone actually lost a family member to this virus?"

Over 40000 did

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Was it to the virus or something else? This is what I'm trying to find out..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We can all be told of how someone has died through the media but let's face it, who trusts the media?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"We can all be told of how someone has died through the media but let's face it, who trusts the media?"

What other sources do you propose? Government statistics and science communication are available

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Was it to the virus or something else? This is what I'm trying to find out.."

Seriously? What level of human being are you.

Go and spend sometime with those who have been seriously affected whether that’s patients, family or friends. It’s a worldwide pandemic... is every leadership across the planet making it up?

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By *on12xx OP   Man
over a year ago

leeds


"We can all be told of how someone has died through the media but let's face it, who trusts the media?"

Over 65k more deaths this year then last

You are being disrespectful to the 65 k families

I find questioning of lady who lost cousin offensive

. Are you one the selfish ones who breaking rule won't wear mask etc

Suppose you believe the earth is flat!!

Open your eyes stop being selfish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We can all be told of how someone has died through the media but let's face it, who trusts the media?

Over 65k more deaths this year then last

You are being disrespectful to the 65 k families

I find questioning of lady who lost cousin offensive

. Are you one the selfish ones who breaking rule won't wear mask etc

Suppose you believe the earth is flat!!

Open your eyes stop being selfish"

And please remember 65k surplus deaths in a time where accidental death via RTA’s, work related incidents etc are at an all time low.

A&Es had their quietest 6 months for over 30 years when you look at trauma patient figures.

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By *on12xx OP   Man
over a year ago

leeds


"If you were going now you would had to pay deposit

Then balance April may

So why not lose deposit

Seems strange to pay balance middle of lockdiwn

I try and pay as quickly as possible so it's out the way.

In fact I dont know anyone who waits until the balance is due."

People wait due to emergency

Anyway you answered question in a way money before health

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We can all be told of how someone has died through the media but let's face it, who trusts the media?

Over 65k more deaths this year then last

You are being disrespectful to the 65 k families

I find questioning of lady who lost cousin offensive

. Are you one the selfish ones who breaking rule won't wear mask etc

Suppose you believe the earth is flat!!

Open your eyes stop being selfish

And please remember 65k surplus deaths in a time where accidental death via RTA’s, work related incidents etc are at an all time low.

A&Es had their quietest 6 months for over 30 years when you look at trauma patient figures."

Trauma and Road deaths for 6 months should equate to around 10,000 in the UK, we are less than 3,000 currently

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I'm doing everything I can to protect my community

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland


"We can all be told of how someone has died through the media but let's face it, who trusts the media?

Over 65k more deaths this year then last

You are being disrespectful to the 65 k families

I find questioning of lady who lost cousin offensive

. Are you one the selfish ones who breaking rule won't wear mask etc

Suppose you believe the earth is flat!!

Open your eyes stop being selfish

And please remember 65k surplus deaths in a time where accidental death via RTA’s, work related incidents etc are at an all time low.

A&Es had their quietest 6 months for over 30 years when you look at trauma patient figures."

On the other hand, some people are dying because they aren't getting the treatment for other conditions. Perhaps balances out a bit. Of course , 65k plus over 4 months is a terrible figure regardless of covid related or indirectly related.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"On the other hand, some people are dying because they aren't getting the treatment for other conditions. Perhaps balances out a bit. Of course , 65k plus over 4 months is a terrible figure regardless of covid related or indirectly related."

You’re absolutely correct, cancer survival times etc are decreasing with a lack of service and there is a balance point to these figures. The whole conspiracy theory regarding mass Numbers of unrelated deaths being classified as covid-19 however is very wrong. I know from my own trust our covid confirmed deaths are lower than the reality and significantly so. We have around 600 grey area entries of recovered ventilated patients that have passed away due to damage done, DOAs who weren’t tested etc. 45-65k is the range and at a guess the virus claimed somewhere in the middle of those figures.

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By *on12xx OP   Man
over a year ago

leeds

65k deaths additional

So money before health

So selfish think of people who lost family members

You can always get a job you can't bring people back to life

So selfish

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"We can all be told of how someone has died through the media but let's face it, who trusts the media?"

And you get information from ?

Ken on facetube ?

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over a year ago


"I don't know a single person who is still on board with any of it.

I think that's the generally mentality now."

Yep I second that I'm bored of it all now so just carrying on as normal

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton


"I don't know a single person who is still on board with any of it.

I think that's the generally mentality now. Yep I second that I'm bored of it all now so just carrying on as normal"

Oh, you're bored of it!

I'm sure that's a sufficient reason to jeopardise your health and others.

I guess it proves the old saying - being bored is worse than being on life support?

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton


"We can all be told of how someone has died through the media but let's face it, who trusts the media?"

What do you trust instead? Karen on Facebook?

Personally, I'd choose to listen to the WHO. But then, my sister died from Covid-19, so I'm not really interested in playing children's conspiracy theories!

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over a year ago

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over a year ago


"I don't know a single person who is still on board with any of it.

I think that's the generally mentality now. Yep I second that I'm bored of it all now so just carrying on as normal"

I bored of hearing the selfish &@€%$ in our society moan about their so called sacrifice and hardship. I’m bored of seeing yet another bed come through into icu which another helpless soul to be ventilated, I’m bored of holding out hope for every family I have to help into PPE just so they can hold their relatives hand through latex gloves, I’m bored of waiting until after 10pm Each shift to remove those who didn’t make it so that other patients or visitors don’t see the bodies come past.

The problem is... bored idiots who just carry on as normal have no concept of the fact they are to blame for our admissions lurching back up, they don’t realise they are to blame for our new lockdown measures that came into play 6 hours ago, they... well, they are just carrying on as normal.

If you did spend a good few Thursday evenings clapping on your doorstep prior to boredom, do me a favour and stick your clapping up your arse please.

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By *heblackmacMan
over a year ago

Ladywell, Lewisham.

North Parts of England on Locked Down from last night due to COVID19 which hasn't disappeared. Parts of North of England mostly affected on the Locked Down is Mostly Manchester, North Yorkshire

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