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"Was in soho yesterday and there were people trying to get you to pay for a COVID test by the ally where the sex shops were , " I would certainly be stopping a Bobby and letting them take a look.  | |||
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"Have been told at work that we have to go and get tested even tho we have no symptons Has anyone been to one of these walk in ones on a random carpark done by military people?? Just wondered what the procedure is and if there is anything I have to take with me Thankmyou" They may ask for ID. But then you will need to give details anyways for results. It will be a nose and mouth swab. Take a mask in case they don't let you in without one. Good luck  | |||
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"nice in a car park if drive /// what about people who don't drive " When people arrive in cars they are pre isolated and controlled. Walk in patients would requre specific isolated holding areas. This adds cost and extra manpower. | |||
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"Also. If there is going to be any place that you are likely to be closer to Covid it's going to be a testing center - indoors particularly - be scrupulous about what you touch don't touch etc etc. " That's a really good point. | |||
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"I’ve looked on sites but most of them are giving advice to people who have symptons I’ll soon find out anyway as I’m going soon" Good luck x | |||
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"Been and had it done now Simples Awaiting results now Xxxx" ,  x | |||
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"Have been told at work that we have to go and get tested even tho we have no symptons Has anyone been to one of these walk in ones on a random carpark done by military people?? Just wondered what the procedure is and if there is anything I have to take with me Thankmyou" you 'have' too??? err is that even legal for them to say you 'have' too?? | |||
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"Have been told at work that we have to go and get tested even tho we have no symptons Has anyone been to one of these walk in ones on a random carpark done by military people?? Just wondered what the procedure is and if there is anything I have to take with me Thankmyou you 'have' too??? err is that even legal for them to say you 'have' too?? " Maybe someone in thd company has symptoms. So the company has all the employees take a test just to be on the safe side ? | |||
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"We was t forced" not legal that. surely?? | |||
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"asking and forcing are two different things... " I'm sure she could have declined. It's a good idea to get tested, as some people are asymptomatic, might go along myself | |||
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"asking and forcing are two different things... " Well it would be the difference of being at work of not. If the company couldn't ascertain if certain staff never had the virus or not . Then it would be wise not to have them at work until they had the test and it came back negative | |||
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"asking and forcing are two different things... Well it would be the difference of being at work of not. If the company couldn't ascertain if certain staff never had the virus or not . Then it would be wise not to have them at work until they had the test and it came back negative" not legally enforceable. | |||
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"asking and forcing are two different things... Well it would be the difference of being at work of not. If the company couldn't ascertain if certain staff never had the virus or not . Then it would be wise not to have them at work until they had the test and it came back negative not legally enforceable. " I work for a pretty large roofing firm. We have 10 office staff, 1 of the had symptoms on tuesday they closed the office immediately and got all 10 to go home and get tested. If anyone of them had refused then it would have directly affected all us on the sites. Legal or not its what they were told not asked. | |||
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"Been and had it done now Simples Awaiting results now Xxxx" What was the process like? How were the other people getting tested- nervous... friendly... 'all in it together' rooting for each other? Good luck. | |||
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"asking and forcing are two different things... Well it would be the difference of being at work of not. If the company couldn't ascertain if certain staff never had the virus or not . Then it would be wise not to have them at work until they had the test and it came back negative not legally enforceable. I work for a pretty large roofing firm. We have 10 office staff, 1 of the had symptoms on tuesday they closed the office immediately and got all 10 to go home and get tested. If anyone of them had refused then it would have directly affected all us on the sites. Legal or not its what they were told not asked." yer theyv acted illegally then. i can give you 3or4 examples of staff members testing positive and ZERO other staff being told they HAVE TOO be tested. that they should or shouldn't wasnt my point, thats down to individuals. my point was/is its illegal if they try and force you | |||
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"Been and had it done now Simples Awaiting results now Xxxx What was the process like? How were the other people getting tested- nervous... friendly... 'all in it together' rooting for each other? Good luck. "I'm a bit of a wimp and don't fancy anything stuck up my nose and round my tonsils! But I think it's a good thing to do | |||
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"asking and forcing are two different things... Well it would be the difference of being at work of not. If the company couldn't ascertain if certain staff never had the virus or not . Then it would be wise not to have them at work until they had the test and it came back negative" | |||
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"Have been told at work that we have to go and get tested even tho we have no symptons Has anyone been to one of these walk in ones on a random carpark done by military people?? Just wondered what the procedure is and if there is anything I have to take with me Thankmyou" It’s really simple... drive in, confirm your details, wind down your window, they swab you’re throat, then your nose... job done. You don’t need ID or anything just your name and date of birth. | |||
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"Have been told at work that we have to go and get tested even tho we have no symptons Has anyone been to one of these walk in ones on a random carpark done by military people?? Just wondered what the procedure is and if there is anything I have to take with me Thankmyou It’s really simple... drive in, confirm your details, wind down your window, they swab you’re throat, then your nose... job done. You don’t need ID or anything just your name and date of birth." Sounds easy enough | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees. "no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too  | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too "In a perfect world maybe. But these days the world ain't perfect is it. | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
In a perfect world maybe.
But these days the world ain't perfect is it. "no? your point being? | |||
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"asking and forcing are two different things... Well it would be the difference of being at work of not. If the company couldn't ascertain if certain staff never had the virus or not . Then it would be wise not to have them at work until they had the test and it came back negative not legally enforceable. I work for a pretty large roofing firm. We have 10 office staff, 1 of the had symptoms on tuesday they closed the office immediately and got all 10 to go home and get tested. If anyone of them had refused then it would have directly affected all us on the sites. Legal or not its what they were told not asked." Sounds reasonable to me what you just described. It may not be a legal requirement but its there for the good of others and that's important | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work."they cant. | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant."It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process. Yes. They can. | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can."that works both ways. they cant. | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can.
that works both ways. they cant. "as proved by my own company. and others on our site | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can.
that works both ways. they cant. "Oh well you go argus with the law . . . it's clear that they can . . . COVID is a reportable disease meaning that anyone in any sphere can be removed by failing to act with proper legal instruction - if a test is part of that instruction they can be told to do it. If they don't the employer has the legal right and duty to remove them from work.  | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can.
that works both ways. they cant.
Oh well you go argus with the law . . . it's clear that they can . . . COVID is a reportable disease meaning that anyone in any sphere can be removed by failing to act with proper legal instruction - if a test is part of that instruction they can be told to do it. If they don't the employer has the legal right and duty to remove them from work.
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can.
that works both ways. they cant.
Oh well you go argus with the law . . . it's clear that they can . . . COVID is a reportable disease meaning that anyone in any sphere can be removed by failing to act with proper legal instruction - if a test is part of that instruction they can be told to do it. If they don't the employer has the legal right and duty to remove them from work.
i have and won thanks. "Yea sure you did. | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can.
that works both ways. they cant.
Oh well you go argus with the law . . . it's clear that they can . . . COVID is a reportable disease meaning that anyone in any sphere can be removed by failing to act with proper legal instruction - if a test is part of that instruction they can be told to do it. If they don't the employer has the legal right and duty to remove them from work.
i have and won thanks.
Yea sure you did." | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can.
that works both ways. they cant.
Oh well you go argus with the law . . . it's clear that they can . . . COVID is a reportable disease meaning that anyone in any sphere can be removed by failing to act with proper legal instruction - if a test is part of that instruction they can be told to do it. If they don't the employer has the legal right and duty to remove them from work.
i have and won thanks.
Yea sure you did."enjoy the rest of your weekend | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
In a perfect world maybe.
But these days the world ain't perfect is it.
no? your point being?"Why would anyone refuse to take a test ? | |||
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" Why would anyone refuse to take a test ?" Beggars belief doesn't it? | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees. "Totally agree. The options are - ask people to be tested and when results come back, return to work ASAP or don’t ask and tell everyone who’s had contact with that person to self isolate for 14 days on statutory sick pay which is naff all. I know which one I prefer x | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can.
that works both ways. they cant.
Oh well you go argus with the law . . . it's clear that they can . . . COVID is a reportable disease meaning that anyone in any sphere can be removed by failing to act with proper legal instruction - if a test is part of that instruction they can be told to do it. If they don't the employer has the legal right and duty to remove them from work.
"I expect this will come under the new powers for local authorities recently announced where they can close places / local lockdown without the need for a law. I imagine that if others employees refused to be tested the whole company could be forced to shut temporary. Just an opinion | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can.
that works both ways. they cant.
Oh well you go argus with the law . . . it's clear that they can . . . COVID is a reportable disease meaning that anyone in any sphere can be removed by failing to act with proper legal instruction - if a test is part of that instruction they can be told to do it. If they don't the employer has the legal right and duty to remove them from work.
I expect this will come under the new powers for local authorities recently announced where they can close places / local lockdown without the need for a law. I imagine that if others employees refused to be tested the whole company could be forced to shut temporary. Just an opinion"Exactly this. | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
In a perfect world maybe.
But these days the world ain't perfect is it.
no? your point being?
Why would anyone refuse to take a test ?"because they have a choice? their choice? | |||
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"Been and had it done now Simples Awaiting results now Xxxx What was the process like? How were the other people getting tested- nervous... friendly... 'all in it together' rooting for each other? Good luck.
I'm a bit of a wimp and don't fancy anything stuck up my nose and round my tonsils! But I think it's a good thing to do "I don't fancy it either, it sounds horrendous. But I agree it's a good thing to do. I don't know why anyone would refuse to get tested.  | |||
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"Totally clear that if your employer did anything other than apply the Law - they have NO regard for employee health and safety. Change your employer. "im my own boss. you can ask of course. but you cant force them. simple really | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can.
that works both ways. they cant.
Oh well you go argus with the law . . . it's clear that they can . . . COVID is a reportable disease meaning that anyone in any sphere can be removed by failing to act with proper legal instruction - if a test is part of that instruction they can be told to do it. If they don't the employer has the legal right and duty to remove them from work.
I expect this will come under the new powers for local authorities recently announced where they can close places / local lockdown without the need for a law. I imagine that if others employees refused to be tested the whole company could be forced to shut temporary. Just an opinion
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"23rd April, EEOC green lighted mandatory medical testing for covid19. An individual with the virus, will pose a direct threat to others. Therefore employers may choose to test employees before they enter the work place." | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
In a perfect world maybe.
But these days the world ain't perfect is it.
no? your point being?
Why would anyone refuse to take a test ?
because they have a choice? their choice? "Perfectly their choice - no one is arguing that - but the current regulations mean that if an employee refuses to be tested they can be refused access to the workplace - if an employer thinks that an employee is postive it is their duty in Law to 'Notify' the health authority in their area and refuse entry to the workplace until they are deemed not to have it. | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
In a perfect world maybe.
But these days the world ain't perfect is it.
no? your point being?
Why would anyone refuse to take a test ?
because they have a choice? their choice? "And if you do have it and you're infecting people who take it home to their at risk relatives and they die. You'll feel great for demanding your right not to get tested. Who gives a shit about the dead people. Some wonderful people on this planet!!! | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
In a perfect world maybe.
But these days the world ain't perfect is it.
no? your point being?
Why would anyone refuse to take a test ?
because they have a choice? their choice?
Perfectly their choice - no one is arguing that - but the current regulations mean that if an employee refuses to be tested they can be refused access to the workplace - if an employer thinks that an employee is postive it is their duty in Law to 'Notify' the health authority in their area and refuse entry to the workplace until they are deemed not to have it.
"if the employer THINKS the employee is positive??? is he or she a doctor all of a sudden?? the legal minefield your entering is unreal. people are arguing if its choice or not? im saying legally a employer cant say i think your covid positive so get tested or no work. simple really. | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
In a perfect world maybe.
But these days the world ain't perfect is it.
no? your point being?
Why would anyone refuse to take a test ?
because they have a choice? their choice?
Perfectly their choice - no one is arguing that - but the current regulations mean that if an employee refuses to be tested they can be refused access to the workplace - if an employer thinks that an employee is postive it is their duty in Law to 'Notify' the health authority in their area and refuse entry to the workplace until they are deemed not to have it.
if the employer THINKS the employee is positive??? is he or she a doctor all of a sudden?? the legal minefield your entering is unreal. people are arguing if its choice or not? im saying legally a employer cant say i think your covid positive so get tested or no work. simple really. "Yes. Thinks is enough. That is the lattitude given under the current Law. Duty of Care includes THINKS under the reportable diseases Act. And why would you not go and get tested? | |||
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"23rd April, EEOC green lighted mandatory medical testing for covid19. An individual with the virus, will pose a direct threat to others. Therefore employers may choose to test employees before they enter the work place." Hmm..that might be an American thing, maybe someone on here might know? | |||
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"Been and had it done now Simples Awaiting results now Xxxx What was the process like? How were the other people getting tested- nervous... friendly... 'all in it together' rooting for each other? Good luck. "Process was simple and everyone was really friendly | |||
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"Been and had it done now Simples Awaiting results now Xxxx What was the process like? How were the other people getting tested- nervous... friendly... 'all in it together' rooting for each other? Good luck.
Process was simple and everyone was really friendly"Yay. Good that you had a positive experience - when do you find out? | |||
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"Been and had it done now Simples Awaiting results now Xxxx What was the process like? How were the other people getting tested- nervous... friendly... 'all in it together' rooting for each other? Good luck.
Process was simple and everyone was really friendly"I personally found the process really unpleasant 
Although the people were lovely and put me ease. | |||
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"Been and had it done now Simples Awaiting results now Xxxx What was the process like? How were the other people getting tested- nervous... friendly... 'all in it together' rooting for each other? Good luck.
Process was simple and everyone was really friendly
Yay. Good that you had a positive experience - when do you find out?
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"Been and had it done now Simples Awaiting results now Xxxx What was the process like? How were the other people getting tested- nervous... friendly... 'all in it together' rooting for each other? Good luck.
Process was simple and everyone was really friendly
I personally found the process really unpleasant
Although the people were lovely and put me ease. "Probably depends who does it and how gentle they are | |||
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"I did the swabbing myself No one touched anything but me Just hope I shoved it down my throat far enough and up my nose Results in 2 days Xxx" I found it quite painful. Mine took two days too. Very rapid. | |||
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"Been and had it done now Simples Awaiting results now Xxxx What was the process like? How were the other people getting tested- nervous... friendly... 'all in it together' rooting for each other? Good luck.
Process was simple and everyone was really friendly
I personally found the process really unpleasant
Although the people were lovely and put me ease.
Probably depends who does it and how gentle they are "She was so lovely and gentle. The problem is I have severe emetophobia and terrible anxiety about anything going near the back of my throat. It was very distressing experience. But I work for the NHS so had no choice but to be tested really (well I had a choice as far as my employer was concerned; but I suppose I felt morally I should do it). Won’t want to be repeating it any time soon though! | |||
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"I did the swabbing myself No one touched anything but me Just hope I shoved it down my throat far enough and up my nose Results in 2 days Xxx" Haha  | |||
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"Been and had it done now Simples Awaiting results now Xxxx What was the process like? How were the other people getting tested- nervous... friendly... 'all in it together' rooting for each other? Good luck.
Process was simple and everyone was really friendly
I personally found the process really unpleasant
Although the people were lovely and put me ease.
Probably depends who does it and how gentle they are
She was so lovely and gentle. The problem is I have severe emetophobia and terrible anxiety about anything going near the back of my throat. It was very distressing experience. But I work for the NHS so had no choice but to be tested really (well I had a choice as far as my employer was concerned; but I suppose I felt morally I should do it). Won’t want to be repeating it any time soon though! ", Bless you. I gag when I brush my teeth | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can.
that works both ways. they cant.
Oh well you go argus with the law . . . it's clear that they can . . . COVID is a reportable disease meaning that anyone in any sphere can be removed by failing to act with proper legal instruction - if a test is part of that instruction they can be told to do it. If they don't the employer has the legal right and duty to remove them from work.
i have and won thanks. "Why would you not want to have it done ? | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
In a perfect world maybe.
But these days the world ain't perfect is it.
no? your point being?
Why would anyone refuse to take a test ?" | |||
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" Why would anyone refuse to take a test ? Beggars belief doesn't it?" | |||
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"asking and forcing are two different things... Well it would be the difference of being at work of not. If the company couldn't ascertain if certain staff never had the virus or not . Then it would be wise not to have them at work until they had the test and it came back negative" That's just ridiculous. If you test negative today, you could catch it on the way home then take it back in to work tomorrow
There is little point in testing people with no symptoms just for the sake of testing them.
I'm lucky in that I work for the civil service I guess and any period of isolation is aid by way of special leave. I guess the private sector don't pay if you are ordered to be off under government guidelines. | |||
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really. They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'. If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'. Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can."They can't. The only breach under the HSAW 1974 is to knowingly attend work when you are unwell and unable to carry out your duties safely. As the test is penatrative no one can force you to have it, let alone your employer. But they can advise you stick to the guidelines and isolate for 7 or 14 days depending on if you or a member of your household has symptoms. Covid is only reportable under RIDDOR if it can be reasonable to suspect that it was a result of occupational exposure. Not all cases are reportable. | |||
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"Didn't think there were walk in ones thought they were all drive through. Also didn't think your work can order you to have a test. Where I work we are having a research team come in and people can volunteer to have a series of 3 antigen tests and an antibody test. " I work for the NHS and we can’t be “ordered” to have a test - still optional at the moment. It’s strongly recommended of course, but optional. | |||
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"Got my results this morning That was bloody quick as I only had the test yesterday I’m negative Phew Xxxx" Excellent! X | |||
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"Got my results this morning That was bloody quick as I only had the test yesterday I’m negative Phew Xxxx" | |||
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"Got my results this morning That was bloody quick as I only had the test yesterday I’m negative Phew Xxxx" | |||
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"The point was that the employer can refuse an employee access back into to the workplace if they do not get tested. In addition the gov changed the law to make it a reportable disease. 'At 6.15pm on 5 March 2020, a statutory instrument was made into law that adds COVID-19 to the list of notifiable diseases and SARS-COV-2 to the list of notifiable causative agents.' Easily found on .gov "Ah so not under hsaw act as previously stated. OK. Notifiable and reportable are different things. I would like to see how challengable not allowing staff back to work is though. Until recently you could only get tests if you were symptomatic as there is little point testing those without symptoms. It gives no assurances as you could drive out of a test site and catch it before your negative result comes back. | |||
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