FabSwingers.com forum: Normality for Christmas?

By *ophieslut OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Social distancing potentially to end in November and a return to some kind of normality for Christmas, according to the guy who's led a fair few crises through the last few months. Sure

With the experts seemingly pointing to a somewhat more precarious future, including possibly greater levels of infection through this winter, I'm not a doom monger, though inclined to perceive things will fall closer to the experts' perceptions of what may come.

Positive progress sees several vaccines progressing through their development trial processes, with some promising early results.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The first vaccine has failed and with flu season just around the corner this is far from over. Just my opinion

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By *he SophisticatsCouple
over a year ago

Casa Del Fun

We don’t think it’ll be back to normal that soon.

So many people out there congregating/mixing... Opening pubs was rushed and the ‘R’ rate has gone up.

Also still allowing flights in from the US (and you can see what a mess that has become)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What has the R rate got to do with it?

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By *az080378Woman
over a year ago

Cromer

"The first vaccine has failed and with flu season just around the corner this is far from over. Just my opinion"

Which vaccine failed?

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By *ophieslut OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"The first vaccine has failed and with flu season just around the corner this is far from over. Just my opinion"

Which 1 was that?

The Oxford vaccine is likely to have results published this coming week. The American vaccine seems at a similar level, both producing an immune respons. There's a Chinese vaccine too, though I know less of it. The first 2 are seemingly going for stage 3 trials, to determine efficacy, the required dosage level and frequency etc.

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

"Normality" is a vague term; and whatever it was, the vast majority of us will not be returning to it - for a whole host of reasons beyond our control.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What has the R rate got to do with it?"

The higher the R rate the faster covid is spreading

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By *ighland gentlemanMan
over a year ago

Ardgay

"What has the R rate got to do with it?"

It's a way of measuring how fast a disease is spreading.

R=1. a sufferer passes it onto 1 other person.

R= less than 1. the progression is dropping

R= greater than one, Your overall number will go up. The Higher the number the faster it will spread and in an exponential fashion.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

On the .gov website it's showing the following

Latest R number range for the UK

0.7-0.9

Latest growth rate range for the UK

-5% to -1%

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

Normal - whose normal. Personally, I hate huge gatherings, shopping and other people in general.

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

As previously mentioned normality is sublective.

If you've lost someone during this period then normality is a far cry.

Until a clear and defining vaccine breakthrough then life will not be the same for anyone.

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By *cotyguyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Every word that comes from Bungling Boris's mouth is a lie. So this makes me think that we are in for another shitty ride.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Latest (17/07/2020) R number from gov site has London's upper range now at 1.1. Southwest upper range remains at 1.1 like last week.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We're in a period of adjustment.

Spanish Flu lasted for two years but fizzled out.

HIV/AIDS is still with us but able to be managed.

Humans are extremely good at adapting. But when you're in the middle of it you can't see the end. Everything seems uncertain.

But over time COVID will be normalised and just another risk which we don't really think about.

How many worry about the dangers of driving when in their cars?

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By *eglieanCouple
over a year ago

Torbay

"The first vaccine has failed and with flu season just around the corner this is far from over. Just my opinion"

You made a statement that the vaccine failed? Then didn't say which one. And didn't respond to people asking you which one. Why say stuff if you don't know what your talking about. Everyone's pretty pissed off with this virus but it's now life, sticking a spanner in the works just for something to say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The first vaccine has failed and with flu season just around the corner this is far from over. Just my opinion

If everyone had to provide a source for their covid "facts" the number of posts in this group would be substantially lower.

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By *ophieslut OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I think it's dangerous that the ending of social distancing was covered, as it makes it lessen the importance of it, when it's a key tool to reduce potential speed. We know already that a few have had problems sticking to it, so need to keep emphasis on it.

The undefined normality for Christmas gives me no hope. It's possibly him preparing the masses to go out spending, as all will be standard again

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

I think this is optomistic and way off the mark,maybe we will be so used to this way of life we will consider it normal by Christmas,more chance of Jesus coming back to life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The first vaccine has failed and with flu season just around the corner this is far from over. Just my opinion"

What vaccine failed?

Did you just pull that comment out of fresh air?

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By *D835Man
over a year ago

London

"I think this is optomistic and way off the mark,maybe we will be so used to this way of life we will consider it normal by Christmas,more chance of Jesus coming back to life"

Haha, yep more chance of Jesus coming back than Boris’ predictions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We're in a period of adjustment.

Spanish Flu lasted for two years but fizzled out.

HIV/AIDS is still with us but able to be managed.

Humans are extremely good at adapting. But when you're in the middle of it you can't see the end. Everything seems uncertain.

But over time COVID will be normalised and just another risk which we don't really think about.

How many worry about the dangers of driving when in their cars?

The problem here is that the effects of Covid 19 while unprecedented in the UK are not knew to some parts of the world. There have been multiple strains of Coronavirus of which Covid 19 is the latest. Each strain is more contagious than the last. Globally Covid 19 has been much more devastating than its predecessors but this is likely to pale into insignificance compared to future strains.

It could be argued that it would have been better to ignore Covid 19 and let the population be reduced. This is a natural occurrence which has come about because the earth is overpopulated and has spread through the densely populated areas thinning out the excess population to restore the natural balance.

You can fight nature but only for so long. If you beat Covid 19, then the next strain will be along in a couple of years and will be harder to beat. Sooner or later we will lose to nature and nature will retake control of the earth.

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

"The first vaccine has failed and with flu season just around the corner this is far from over. Just my opinion

What vaccine failed?

Did you just pull that comment out of fresh air?

The first Oxford Vaccine 'has' failed in rhesus macaque monkeys. Though the trials still going on in humans.

Google is your friend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The first vaccine will have failed and with flu season just around the corner this is far from over. Just my opinion

What vaccine failed?

Did you just pull that comment out of fresh air?

Or his he just pessimistic and meant to say the altered way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not a hope in hell that normality will return for Christmas. We don’t have enough understanding of how this spreads in cold weather or how it may interact with seasonal flu.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The first vaccine has failed and with flu season just around the corner this is far from over. Just my opinion

If everyone had to provide a source for their covid "facts" the number of posts in this group would be substantially lower."

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Very true, in my opinion....!

Eva

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not a hope in hell that normality will return for Christmas. We don’t have enough understanding of how this spreads in cold weather or how it may interact with seasonal flu. "

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Not a "hope in hell...."??!

I'll remember that.

Eva

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By *ophieslut OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"The first vaccine has failed and with flu season just around the corner this is far from over. Just my opinion

If everyone had to provide a source for their covid "facts" the number of posts in this group would be substantially lower.

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Very true, in my opinion....!

Eva

We could perhaps close a few Forum sub-topics

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

One more time . . .

The first Oxford Vaccine 'has' failed in rhesus macaque monkeys. Though the trials still going on in humans. But if it has failed in the monkeys it is unlikely to be useful in humans.

Google is your friend . . .

The Board rules do not permit some links so go search it's on many science sites.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We're in a period of adjustment.

Spanish Flu lasted for two years but fizzled out.

HIV/AIDS is still with us but able to be managed.

Humans are extremely good at adapting. But when you're in the middle of it you can't see the end. Everything seems uncertain.

But over time COVID will be normalised and just another risk which we don't really think about.

How many worry about the dangers of driving when in their cars?

I agree nature will usually find a way to solve a problem .

At the moment that problem is human over population and global warming.

Like it or not someday nature will kick our arses.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The first vaccine has failed and with flu season just around the corner this is far from over. Just my opinion

If everyone had to provide a source for their covid "facts" the number of posts in this group would be substantially lower.

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Very true, in my opinion....!

Eva

We could perhaps close a few Forum sub-topics

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Then there's the forum sub SUB topics, Dear..!!

Every one a negative in my eyes..!

Take care,

Eva X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The first vaccine has failed and with flu season just around the corner this is far from over. Just my opinion

Which vaccine failed?"

Apparently the government had developed a vaccine for covid 19 but it was deemed non viable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have a very merry second wave.. for 2021

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Have a very merry second wave.. for 2021"

2021....so you think this years xmas will be ok eh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Have a very merry second wave.. for 2021

2021....so you think this years xmas will be ok eh."

Nope. But I think k the second wave will be upon us around then.

Especially if Boris has any hand In it.

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By *oni053Woman
over a year ago

Putney, SW London

Exactly this! We are led by fools

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We're in a period of adjustment.

Spanish Flu lasted for two years but fizzled out.

HIV/AIDS is still with us but able to be managed.

Humans are extremely good at adapting. But when you're in the middle of it you can't see the end. Everything seems uncertain.

But over time COVID will be normalised and just another risk which we don't really think about.

How many worry about the dangers of driving when in their cars?

I agree nature will usually find a way to solve a problem .

At the moment that problem is human over population and global warming.

Like it or not someday nature will kick our arses."

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By *uietlykinkymeWoman
over a year ago

kinky land

I've decided to try and get out of England for Christmas

I don't actually know what 'normal' means though. If it's madness on the high street Christmas eve and bars rammed for new year then I'm still not going to want it.

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By *ophieslut OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"We're in a period of adjustment.

Spanish Flu lasted for two years but fizzled out.

HIV/AIDS is still with us but able to be managed.

Humans are extremely good at adapting. But when you're in the middle of it you can't see the end. Everything seems uncertain.

But over time COVID will be normalised and just another risk which we don't really think about.

How many worry about the dangers of driving when in their cars?

I agree nature will usually find a way to solve a problem .

At the moment that problem is human over population and global warming.

Like it or not someday nature will kick our arses."

Much of human behaviour and its effects are avoidable. We don't have to endlessly expand our cities, intruding into pristine wildlife zines, such as rainforests. We don't have to pursue ongoing destruction of rainforests full stop, just to plant more monoculture crops, such as palm oil, or for livestock raising.

We are cluelessly led by many with myopic vision, who care not for the ethical consequences of the harm that they do.

We could sustain this population level, with resources to spare, if we lived more intelligently. There's lots of potential for us to have healthier lives, not forcing the likely species jumping of diseases, to which we have no historical immune response.

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

I really hope so but I have told my kids to think about what they would like for Christmas ~ just in case like

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Latest (17/07/2020) R number from gov site has London's upper range now at 1.1. Southwest upper range remains at 1.1 like last week.

That's just one area, the entire countries average R rate has stayed the same, in many areas it has dropped.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

I just hope this works out better for Boris and co than the time in 1914 when someone else said "it'll all be over by Christmas"

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By *dores blackmenWoman
over a year ago

incognito mode ;-)

"I really hope so but I have told my kids to think about what they would like for Christmas ~ just in case like

Nobody has a crystal ball not even the government

so I've done the same,I started Christmas shopping last month,I've never prepared this early

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By *D835Man
over a year ago

London

"I really hope so but I have told my kids to think about what they would like for Christmas ~ just in case like

Nobody has a crystal ball not even the government

so I've done the same,I started Christmas shopping last month,I've never prepared this early

"....Nobody has a crystal ball not even the government..."

That's my view as well.

Wise decision that you've started your Christmas shopping early.

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

"I really hope so but I have told my kids to think about what they would like for Christmas ~ just in case like

Nobody has a crystal ball not even the government

so I've done the same,I started Christmas shopping last month,I've never prepared this early

You must of been a Brownie to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We're in a period of adjustment.

Spanish Flu lasted for two years but fizzled out.

HIV/AIDS is still with us but able to be managed.

Humans are extremely good at adapting. But when you're in the middle of it you can't see the end. Everything seems uncertain.

But over time COVID will be normalised and just another risk which we don't really think about.

How many worry about the dangers of driving when in their cars?

I hope covid just fizzles out. Gets weaker and just like a very bad cold.

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By *ornykinkycouple84Couple
over a year ago

Chesterfield

Some people are back to normal now, the updates page is swamped with people looking for meets and I doubt they'll be socially distanced meets. Also competitive 5 a side grass roots football starts again next month, I know as I play 5 a side football and that starts next month.

Social distancing will fizzle out, yes people will still catch covid but hopefully by then it will be highly treatable and only an extremely low number of people will catch it ????

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By *dores blackmenWoman
over a year ago

incognito mode ;-)

"I really hope so but I have told my kids to think about what they would like for Christmas ~ just in case like

Nobody has a crystal ball not even the government

so I've done the same,I started Christmas shopping last month,I've never prepared this early

"....Nobody has a crystal ball not even the government..."

That's my view as well.

Wise decision that you've started your Christmas shopping early."

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By *dores blackmenWoman
over a year ago

incognito mode ;-)

"I really hope so but I have told my kids to think about what they would like for Christmas ~ just in case like

Nobody has a crystal ball not even the government

so I've done the same,I started Christmas shopping last month,I've never prepared this early

You must of been a Brownie to

How did you guess

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan

"We're in a period of adjustment.

Spanish Flu lasted for two years but fizzled out.

HIV/AIDS is still with us but able to be managed.

Humans are extremely good at adapting. But when you're in the middle of it you can't see the end. Everything seems uncertain.

But over time COVID will be normalised and just another risk which we don't really think about.

How many worry about the dangers of driving when in their cars?

We’re nature too!

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By *exywheelsCouple
over a year ago

inverness

All over by Christmas didn't they say that in 1914. Look at how that prediction turned out

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"All over by Christmas didn't they say that in 1914. Look at how that prediction turned out "

Totally different situations though.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

"All over by Christmas didn't they say that in 1914. Look at how that prediction turned out "

No one has said it will be all over by xmas

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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago

near the sounds of the wimborne quarter jack!

"Every word that comes from Bungling Boris's mouth is a lie. So this makes me think that we are in for another shitty ride. "

Lies or not, the public are their own worst enemies!

I was at Studland naturist beach today and I was looking for a couple having a quiet time so I could do my voyeurism bit. Imagine my amazment to see one lady taking a stranger bareback!

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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago

near the sounds of the wimborne quarter jack!

"We're in a period of adjustment.

Spanish Flu lasted for two years but fizzled out.

HIV/AIDS is still with us but able to be managed.

Humans are extremely good at adapting. But when you're in the middle of it you can't see the end. Everything seems uncertain.

But over time COVID will be normalised and just another risk which we don't really think about.

How many worry about the dangers of driving when in their cars?

We’re nature too! "

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

"The first vaccine has failed and with flu season just around the corner this is far from over. Just my opinion

Which vaccine failed?

Apparently the government had developed a vaccine for covid 19 but it was deemed non viable."

Sorry to burst your bubble but the government don't develop vaccines

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"We're in a period of adjustment.

Spanish Flu lasted for two years but fizzled out.

HIV/AIDS is still with us but able to be managed.

Humans are extremely good at adapting. But when you're in the middle of it you can't see the end. Everything seems uncertain.

But over time COVID will be normalised and just another risk which we don't really think about.

How many worry about the dangers of driving when in their cars?

I hope covid just fizzles out. Gets weaker and just like a very bad cold. "
it seems to be doing that already. Their is a lot of research coming in from overseas that is suggesting that x

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Every word that comes from Bungling Boris's mouth is a lie. So this makes me think that we are in for another shitty ride.

Lies or not, the public are their own worst enemies!

I was at Studland naturist beach today and I was looking for a couple having a quiet time so I could do my voyeurism bit. Imagine my amazment to see one lady taking a stranger bareback!"

How do you know it was a stranger?

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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago

near the sounds of the wimborne quarter jack!

"Every word that comes from Bungling Boris's mouth is a lie. So this makes me think that we are in for another shitty ride.

Lies or not, the public are their own worst enemies!

I was at Studland naturist beach today and I was looking for a couple having a quiet time so I could do my voyeurism bit. Imagine my amazment to see one lady taking a stranger bareback!

How do you know it was a stranger?"

Her husband was watching over the proceedings and the rider was a younger person of Asian origins.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

You must have been very close to see he was bareback.

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