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"Why do soo many men have a confusion over this matter? Do they really want to just get their dick wet for the sake of it? Amd think it is all risk free?, totally unbelievable that this question is being raised daily! " I think you just answered your own question. We all know there are a few people who have the attitude, I won't get it so it doesn't matter. Of course to a single male a shag is more important, that making sure they are safe. | |||
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"If people listened to Prof Whitty, he says that COv19 is likely to be with us into 2021. So there's your answer!" Since when has any so called expert been right, this is something new so it's all guess work. | |||
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"If people listened to Prof Whitty, he says that COv19 is likely to be with us into 2021. So there's your answer! Since when has any so called expert been right, this is something new so it's all guess work. " So, take your chances and do what you want then,, we know others are doing so, but then you also know you'll be relying on the NHS if things go wrong | |||
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"If people listened to Prof Whitty, he says that COv19 is likely to be with us into 2021. So there's your answer! Since when has any so called expert been right, this is something new so it's all guess work. So, take your chances and do what you want then,, we know others are doing so, but then you also know you'll be relying on the NHS if things go wrong " I pay my taxes, worked through lockdown in safe, outdoors environment been told all-sorts of crap but most have been lies. | |||
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"If people listened to Prof Whitty, he says that COv19 is likely to be with us into 2021. So there's your answer! Since when has any so called expert been right, this is something new so it's all guess work. " Er..Influenza epidemic 1918...Ebola..MERS...SARS...so not new. And would you let your next door neighbour perform brain surgery on you? Given there were 600 infections today alone IT ISNT GOING AWAY ANY TIME SOON!!!! | |||
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"If people listened to Prof Whitty, he says that COv19 is likely to be with us into 2021. So there's your answer! Since when has any so called expert been right, this is something new so it's all guess work. Er..Influenza epidemic 1918...Ebola..MERS...SARS...so not new. And would you let your next door neighbour perform brain surgery on you? Given there were 600 infections today alone IT ISNT GOING AWAY ANY TIME SOON!!!!" A virus will infect people, at the moment the biggest problem is people having the virus with very little symptoms so does spread faster, again I will say the purpose of lockdown was to control the spread of covid 19 not stop it this will never dissapear so hide away if you want. | |||
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"If people listened to Prof Whitty, he says that COv19 is likely to be with us into 2021. So there's your answer! Since when has any so called expert been right, this is something new so it's all guess work. Er..Influenza epidemic 1918...Ebola..MERS...SARS...so not new. And would you let your next door neighbour perform brain surgery on you? Given there were 600 infections today alone IT ISNT GOING AWAY ANY TIME SOON!!!! A virus will infect people, at the moment the biggest problem is people having the virus with very little symptoms so does spread faster, again I will say the purpose of lockdown was to control the spread of covid 19 not stop it this will never dissapear so hide away if you want." Oh, sorry, apologies Professor, good evening, thanks for joining us. | |||
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"If people listened to Prof Whitty, he says that COv19 is likely to be with us into 2021. So there's your answer! Since when has any so called expert been right, this is something new so it's all guess work. Er..Influenza epidemic 1918...Ebola..MERS...SARS...so not new. And would you let your next door neighbour perform brain surgery on you? Given there were 600 infections today alone IT ISNT GOING AWAY ANY TIME SOON!!!! A virus will infect people, at the moment the biggest problem is people having the virus with very little symptoms so does spread faster, again I will say the purpose of lockdown was to control the spread of covid 19 not stop it this will never dissapear so hide away if you want. Oh, sorry, apologies Professor, good evening, thanks for joining us. " Another person who can't accept someone else's opinion, the forum's are for discussion. | |||
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"when will we be able to meet " Not yet. | |||
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"If people listened to Prof Whitty, he says that COv19 is likely to be with us into 2021. So there's your answer! Since when has any so called expert been right, this is something new so it's all guess work. Er..Influenza epidemic 1918...Ebola..MERS...SARS...so not new. And would you let your next door neighbour perform brain surgery on you? Given there were 600 infections today alone IT ISNT GOING AWAY ANY TIME SOON!!!! A virus will infect people, at the moment the biggest problem is people having the virus with very little symptoms so does spread faster, again I will say the purpose of lockdown was to control the spread of covid 19 not stop it this will never dissapear so hide away if you want. Oh, sorry, apologies Professor, good evening, thanks for joining us. Another person who can't accept someone else's opinion, the forum's are for discussion." I’ll give you an opinion... amongst the numbers over the past 4 months I’ve helped move 9 guys of around your age to the mortuary after they lost their life to Covid 19 or even worst afterwards because their body didn’t have it in them to recover post virus. We are all taking risks already, easing lockdown itself is a risk with the knowledge numbers will continue to die but hopefully in small numbers as the economy and human patience can’t endure lockdown any longer. If you wish to increase your own level of risk, I’m sure you’ll do it anyway... some people will view that as ridiculously selfish as actually it would potentially affect anyone else within your circle, some people will have sympathy. Fab however isn’t going to take a standpoint where they say it’s safe to do so when guidance clearly states it isn’t. As others have said on paper people won’t be allowed to meet until probably some point next year. | |||
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"What about for couples that have already had it. Or those that have been isolated for 21 day before the meet on both sides? Shouldn't people who have prayed the rules and ensured that they are all safe or who have already had this virus be allowed to meet? " There’s no guarantee people have immunity, about 20% of recovered confirmed patients who have swabbed positive will then show as negative on the antibody test. There’s also a large number of documented cases of patients relapsing with the illness or being infected by a different strain. Out of interest... who isolated for 21 days to have a meet? | |||
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"What about for couples that have already had it. Or those that have been isolated for 21 day before the meet on both sides? Shouldn't people who have prayed the rules and ensured that they are all safe or who have already had this virus be allowed to meet? There’s no guarantee people have immunity, about 20% of recovered confirmed patients who have swabbed positive will then show as negative on the antibody test. There’s also a large number of documented cases of patients relapsing with the illness or being infected by a different strain. Out of interest... who isolated for 21 days to have a meet? " Thanks for the updated infor. I wasn't aware that another strain was prevelent. So why are lockdown restrictions easing at all! The 21 day thing Is for couples like a couple we know and ourselves. They have a child with special healt requirements and we haven't left the house since this whole lockdown started. Food shopping is done online and delivers to our back yard. We have been considering a meet with them as we are well beyond the isolation period and have both not had external contact but for different reasons. Plus with being allowed to go to pubs now are socials still off the table in general? I understand and respect the risk of intimate meets with people who haven't isolated but what about socials if your willing to surrender that 21 day meet or have already had one? (we haven't btw). We are looking for ways to have couples we care for still be available for mutual fun and support and still be safe for each other. To be totally honest I don't care if I get the damn virus but I do care about the possibility of giving it to someone else. My oh is of the same mind on that. This virus is doing so much damage to people through the secondary effects. Loosing jobs, destruction of businesses and industry. The mental health damage from constant isolation. There are positives to it as well tho. More family time, closer household bonds, community support and building. But we do need normality. We cannot forever be afraid of this virus. We can't wait on a vaccine as the last major virus destroyed this way was polio. It's here to stay as it's in the same family as the common cold but admittly much more serious symptoms. That's because we have no resistance to it and until we are exposed we won't be able to build that resistance. Phasing exposure has been the best idea for us so far, letting health services cope with lower numbers. It was never about protecting the public fro getting it, thats impossible. It's about dealing with a measured exposure so those that reacting to it badly (including one of my best friends who lost against it) can be treated by staff who arnt overwhelmed. Sorry I got off topic but the sentiment is the same. Measured caution without succumbing to fear and roumour. | |||
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"What about for couples that have already had it. Or those that have been isolated for 21 day before the meet on both sides? Shouldn't people who have prayed the rules and ensured that they are all safe or who have already had this virus be allowed to meet? There’s no guarantee people have immunity, about 20% of recovered confirmed patients who have swabbed positive will then show as negative on the antibody test. There’s also a large number of documented cases of patients relapsing with the illness or being infected by a different strain. Out of interest... who isolated for 21 days to have a meet? " There currently isnt any evidence of another strain! There is only one known strain. And anti body tests do not exclusively state where someone has a level of immunity. Some people can have no anti bodies but have immunity through a t cell respone | |||
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"I'm into now week 18 of total lockdown, I had it I was really poorly for 3 weeks, so to those of you who have been lucky enough to not get it, please wait, I couldn't even goto my dads funeral, please don't be selfish just have a wank" Lucky you that you have such an understanding employer that would allow you 18 weeks off | |||
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"What about for couples that have already had it. Or those that have been isolated for 21 day before the meet on both sides? Shouldn't people who have prayed the rules and ensured that they are all safe or who have already had this virus be allowed to meet? There’s no guarantee people have immunity, about 20% of recovered confirmed patients who have swabbed positive will then show as negative on the antibody test. There’s also a large number of documented cases of patients relapsing with the illness or being infected by a different strain. Out of interest... who isolated for 21 days to have a meet? Thanks for the updated infor. I wasn't aware that another strain was prevelent. So why are lockdown restrictions easing at all! The 21 day thing Is for couples like a couple we know and ourselves. They have a child with special healt requirements and we haven't left the house since this whole lockdown started. Food shopping is done online and delivers to our back yard. We have been considering a meet with them as we are well beyond the isolation period and have both not had external contact but for different reasons. Plus with being allowed to go to pubs now are socials still off the table in general? I understand and respect the risk of intimate meets with people who haven't isolated but what about socials if your willing to surrender that 21 day meet or have already had one? (we haven't btw). We are looking for ways to have couples we care for still be available for mutual fun and support and still be safe for each other. To be totally honest I don't care if I get the damn virus but I do care about the possibility of giving it to someone else. My oh is of the same mind on that. This virus is doing so much damage to people through the secondary effects. Loosing jobs, destruction of businesses and industry. The mental health damage from constant isolation. There are positives to it as well tho. More family time, closer household bonds, community support and building. But we do need normality. We cannot forever be afraid of this virus. We can't wait on a vaccine as the last major virus destroyed this way was polio. It's here to stay as it's in the same family as the common cold but admittly much more serious symptoms. That's because we have no resistance to it and until we are exposed we won't be able to build that resistance. Phasing exposure has been the best idea for us so far, letting health services cope with lower numbers. It was never about protecting the public fro getting it, thats impossible. It's about dealing with a measured exposure so those that reacting to it badly (including one of my best friends who lost against it) can be treated by staff who arnt overwhelmed. Sorry I got off topic but the sentiment is the same. Measured caution without succumbing to fear and roumour. " It says on your profile you had a meet on Tuesday | |||
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"There currently isnt any evidence of another strain! There is only one known strain. And anti body tests do not exclusively state where someone has a level of immunity. Some people can have no anti bodies but have immunity through a t cell respone " Utter tosh... there’s a number of known strains; for instance: https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/news/nr/new-strain-covid-more-infectious-1.892276 You’re just stating a work of fiction | |||
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"when will we be able to meet " Whenever you (and the consenting party) wants to. Just so long as you are both aware of the risks/consequences. As for when Fab resumes as usual, nobody knows | |||
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"What about for couples that have already had it. Or those that have been isolated for 21 day before the meet on both sides? Shouldn't people who have prayed the rules and ensured that they are all safe or who have already had this virus be allowed to meet? There’s no guarantee people have immunity, about 20% of recovered confirmed patients who have swabbed positive will then show as negative on the antibody test. There’s also a large number of documented cases of patients relapsing with the illness or being infected by a different strain. Out of interest... who isolated for 21 days to have a meet? Thanks for the updated infor. I wasn't aware that another strain was prevelent. So why are lockdown restrictions easing at all! The 21 day thing Is for couples like a couple we know and ourselves. They have a child with special healt requirements and we haven't left the house since this whole lockdown started. Food shopping is done online and delivers to our back yard. We have been considering a meet with them as we are well beyond the isolation period and have both not had external contact but for different reasons. Plus with being allowed to go to pubs now are socials still off the table in general? I understand and respect the risk of intimate meets with people who haven't isolated but what about socials if your willing to surrender that 21 day meet or have already had one? (we haven't btw). We are looking for ways to have couples we care for still be available for mutual fun and support and still be safe for each other. To be totally honest I don't care if I get the damn virus but I do care about the possibility of giving it to someone else. My oh is of the same mind on that. This virus is doing so much damage to people through the secondary effects. Loosing jobs, destruction of businesses and industry. The mental health damage from constant isolation. There are positives to it as well tho. More family time, closer household bonds, community support and building. But we do need normality. We cannot forever be afraid of this virus. We can't wait on a vaccine as the last major virus destroyed this way was polio. It's here to stay as it's in the same family as the common cold but admittly much more serious symptoms. That's because we have no resistance to it and until we are exposed we won't be able to build that resistance. Phasing exposure has been the best idea for us so far, letting health services cope with lower numbers. It was never about protecting the public fro getting it, thats impossible. It's about dealing with a measured exposure so those that reacting to it badly (including one of my best friends who lost against it) can be treated by staff who arnt overwhelmed. Sorry I got off topic but the sentiment is the same. Measured caution without succumbing to fear and roumour. " Lockdown is easing because we can’t sustain it in all truth, as you say financially, mentally etc... the infection rate was always to high when we did it initially to achieve a level where we could eradicate it so it’s now an exercise at managing the impact over time. There’s got to be an acceptance of ongoing deaths but also control so we don’t go back to square 1. Your 21 days has me a bit startled in truth, it’s a tricky one... even protected sex is probably the most guaranteed way to insure infection if there’s a carrier: kissing, oral, face to face, close proximity and exerting whilst indoors... all are practically 100% chance of passing on the virus. For me if that household has an at risk child that dictates that even food is delivered to the house then why would you risk their safety for the sake of a shag? | |||
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"when will we be able to meet Whenever you (and the consenting party) wants to. Just so long as you are both aware of the risks/consequences. As for when Fab resumes as usual, nobody knows " #applause totally nailed it | |||
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"when will we be able to meet " Socially outside now, but for fun ,once social distancing goes so no time soon | |||
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