FabSwingers.com forum: Latest news ...83% support 2nd wave of Locked Down.

By *heblackmac OP Man
over a year ago

Ladywell, Lewisham.

Latest news this morning,83 % members of the Public Supports 2nd Wave of Locked Down.

How will you cope with Lifting of restrictions from tomorrow as its Super Saturday after months of Locked Down.

Pub, hairdressers and some other shops opening tomorrow.

Your thoughts?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I'd prefer lockdown for as long as needed to remove the virus as much as possible. It should have been tougher at the start. We have to get used to things being different and tougher, as most people have

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is only the biggining, when will people realise this? This is comming from an infectious decease expert,if you think you know better than a guy who has been fighting deceases for 40 years let's here it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is only the biggining, when will people realise this? This is comming from an infectious decease expert,if you think you know better than a guy who has been fighting deceases for 40 years let's here it"

Hear*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Know better in what respect?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd prefer lockdown for as long as needed to remove the virus as much as possible. It should have been tougher at the start. We have to get used to things being different and tougher, as most people have "

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

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I wonder out of that 83% how many haven't followed the advice of the first lockdown

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Know better in what respect?"

That the experts,there seems to be quite a few lately, actually I only listen to one now, his podcast is straight talk, no sugar coating anything,it's quite scary what he thinks will happen

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By *heblackmac OP Man
over a year ago

Ladywell, Lewisham.

"I wonder out of that 83% how many haven't followed the advice of the first lockdown"
probably 10 %

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Know better in what respect?

That the experts,there seems to be quite a few lately, actually I only listen to one now, his podcast is straight talk, no sugar coating anything,it's quite scary what he thinks will happen"

Your correct

Sending you a link to the bloke I listen/watch...has pretty good..

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

I don't frequent pubs, am a long haired git who hasn't been anywhere near a hairdresser in years and as I can't actually think of any shops I've missed going to... all this excitement makes no difference to me at all...

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By *entleman_spyMan
over a year ago

nearby

Latest news ...83% Of the people they asked are cowards.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't frequent pubs, am a long haired git who hasn't been anywhere near a hairdresser in years and as I can't actually think of any shops I've missed going to... all this excitement makes no difference to me at all... "

Stick your hair under a baseball cap when you do go out

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Latest news this morning,83 % members of the Public Supports 2nd Wave of Locked Down.

How will you cope with Lifting of restrictions from tomorrow as its Super Saturday after months of Locked Down.

Pub, hairdressers and some other shops opening tomorrow.

Your thoughts?"

83% of who? The entire UK.

Or 83% of the 75 members of the public that were asked?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Latest news ...83% Of the people they asked are cowards. "

And 17% are idiots eh...

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

We should have opened everything up when the schools went back, the virus infection levels went too low from delaying it till now, and people are so desperate for a taste of life they will now not social distance for it. So levels can only go up, the virus isn't going to burn out like sars did and a second wave is on the cusp

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"We should have opened everything up when the schools went back, the virus infection levels went too low from delaying it till now, and people are so desperate for a taste of life they will now not social distance for it. So levels can only go up, the virus isn't going to burn out like sars did and a second wave is on the cusp "

Shhhh enough of the sensible comments

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

Know better in what respect?

That the experts,there seems to be quite a few lately, actually I only listen to one now, his podcast is straight talk, no sugar coating anything,it's quite scary what he thinks will happen"

The problem with these experts is that they all say different things, you can pick and choose whichever one supports your own opinion.

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By *un4us2getherCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Know better in what respect?

That the experts,there seems to be quite a few lately, actually I only listen to one now, his podcast is straight talk, no sugar coating anything,it's quite scary what he thinks will happen"

can you direct me to podcast. Be interested in hearing his views.

thanks.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

Who is the disease expert?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who is the disease expert?"

I think he's on a overlooked post by dash...I'll bump it

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

Who is the disease expert?

I think he's on a overlooked post by dash...I'll bump it

Thanking you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who is the disease expert?

I think he's on a overlooked post by dash...I'll bump it

Thanking you

Your welcome

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

This is the gentleman he is refering to-

Dr. Michel Osterholm,director of infectious diceases, minnesota University

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By *entleman_spyMan
over a year ago

nearby

"Latest news ...83% Of the people they asked are cowards.

And 17% are idiots eh..."

There is no evidence of that the only evidence provided here is that 83% of people asked are cowards, too scared to leave their houses and want to make sure that everyone lives the same way they do. 83% of people that are able to continue their lives while others are on the bread line able but not allowed to work but sod them eh ... they don’t matter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is the gentleman he is refering to-

Dr. Michel Osterholm,director of infectious diceases, minnesota University"

Dont forget to give him a bump

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Latest news ...83% Of the people they asked are cowards. "

Some of us have a good chance of dying should we get this virus...

Yep, it's cowardly of me to want to fucking survive instead of dying an awful and painful death alone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Know better in what respect?

That the experts,there seems to be quite a few lately, actually I only listen to one now, his podcast is straight talk, no sugar coating anything,it's quite scary what he thinks will happen

The problem with these experts is that they all say different things, you can pick and choose whichever one supports your own opinion. "

Not true, most are sugar coating it, how can you dismiss the credibility of a man who has fought sars, mers,swine flu,lime decease for over 40 year, surely he knows what he is talking about yes?

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

From a quick search, he is not really stating anything different from what we really know.

He done made a bloody good effort of the Ebola vaccine though.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"From a quick search, he is not really stating anything different from what we really know.

He done made a bloody good effort of the Ebola vaccine though."

Should say "from what we already know".

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"Latest news ...83% Of the people they asked are cowards. "

If it means keeping my loved one alive & not exposing them to any potential serious illness I'll happily take the coward tag

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Know better in what respect?

That the experts,there seems to be quite a few lately, actually I only listen to one now, his podcast is straight talk, no sugar coating anything,it's quite scary what he thinks will happen

can you direct me to podcast. Be interested in hearing his views.

thanks."

I'll PM you

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"Stick your hair under a baseball cap when you do go out

Baseball cap?

I'd rather go bald...

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"Latest news ...83% Of the people they asked are cowards. "

Opinion or fact?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stick your hair under a baseball cap when you do go out

Baseball cap?

I'd rather go bald...

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By *onnnngSchllllongMan
over a year ago

Nr Chorley

But you can't even spell "disease". Hmmmm ok though to your 40yrs fighting disease.

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By *onnnngSchllllongMan
over a year ago

Nr Chorley

Me too

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"But you can't even spell "disease". Hmmmm ok though to your 40yrs fighting disease."

Maybe he didn't mean disease.. Maybe decease was right?

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By *heblackmac OP Man
over a year ago

Ladywell, Lewisham.

"Latest news this morning,83 % members of the Public Supports 2nd Wave of Locked Down.

How will you cope with Lifting of restrictions from tomorrow as its Super Saturday after months of Locked Down.

Pub, hairdressers and some other shops opening tomorrow.

Your thoughts?

83% of who? The entire UK.

Or 83% of the 75 members of the public that were asked? "
83% of members of the public whom were asked.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

"Latest news this morning,83 % members of the Public Supports 2nd Wave of Locked Down.

How will you cope with Lifting of restrictions from tomorrow as its Super Saturday after months of Locked Down.

Pub, hairdressers and some other shops opening tomorrow.

Your thoughts?

83% of who? The entire UK.

Or 83% of the 75 members of the public that were asked? 83% of members of the public whom were asked."

83% want another holiday on 80% pay. Nice walks on the beach.

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By *heblackmac OP Man
over a year ago

Ladywell, Lewisham.

"Latest news this morning,83 % members of the Public Supports 2nd Wave of Locked Down.

How will you cope with Lifting of restrictions from tomorrow as its Super Saturday after months of Locked Down.

Pub, hairdressers and some other shops opening tomorrow.

Your thoughts?

83% of who? The entire UK.

Or 83% of the 75 members of the public that were asked? 83% of members of the public whom were asked.

83% want another holiday on 80% pay. Nice walks on the beach."

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk

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By *old1974Man
over a year ago

Manchester

83% of people who don't have a business on its arse, a pub about to close, a job in aviation or some one who goes to work every day with a mortgage to pay. Let's all go back into lockdown and live like a third world country.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Latest news this morning,83 % members of the Public Supports 2nd Wave of Locked Down.

How will you cope with Lifting of restrictions from tomorrow as its Super Saturday after months of Locked Down.

Pub, hairdressers and some other shops opening tomorrow.

Your thoughts?

83% of who? The entire UK.

Or 83% of the 75 members of the public that were asked? 83% of members of the public whom were asked."

So 83% of the United Kingdom, Northern Ireland and the Isles were asked in the survey?

Can you post a link to who carried out the survey

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

Know better in what respect?

That the experts,there seems to be quite a few lately, actually I only listen to one now, his podcast is straight talk, no sugar coating anything,it's quite scary what he thinks will happen

The problem with these experts is that they all say different things, you can pick and choose whichever one supports your own opinion.

Not true, most are sugar coating it, how can you dismiss the credibility of a man who has fought sars, mers,swine flu,lime decease for over 40 year, surely he knows what he is talking about yes? "

I could search for 'experts' opinions on Google and find some that support every different opinion of people on this forum, all of them with qualifications in the relevant subjects.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

Either way, we NEED to get the country running again in as safe a way as possible, surely that's what people want?

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"Latest news this morning,83 % members of the Public Supports 2nd Wave of Locked Down.

How will you cope with Lifting of restrictions from tomorrow as its Super Saturday after months of Locked Down.

Pub, hairdressers and some other shops opening tomorrow.

Your thoughts?

83% of who? The entire UK.

Or 83% of the 75 members of the public that were asked? 83% of members of the public whom were asked.

So 83% of the United Kingdom, Northern Ireland and the Isles were asked in the survey?

Can you post a link to who carried out the survey

There may be some survey results on you gov. I've done surveys on there but it just takes me to my homepage

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Latest news this morning,83 % members of the Public Supports 2nd Wave of Locked Down.

How will you cope with Lifting of restrictions from tomorrow as its Super Saturday after months of Locked Down.

Pub, hairdressers and some other shops opening tomorrow.

Your thoughts?

83% of who? The entire UK.

Or 83% of the 75 members of the public that were asked? 83% of members of the public whom were asked.

So 83% of the United Kingdom, Northern Ireland and the Isles were asked in the survey?

Can you post a link to who carried out the survey

There may be some survey results on you gov. I've done surveys on there but it just takes me to my homepage

Thank You

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"Latest news this morning,83 % members of the Public Supports 2nd Wave of Locked Down.

How will you cope with Lifting of restrictions from tomorrow as its Super Saturday after months of Locked Down.

Pub, hairdressers and some other shops opening tomorrow.

Your thoughts?

83% of who? The entire UK.

Or 83% of the 75 members of the public that were asked? 83% of members of the public whom were asked.

So 83% of the United Kingdom, Northern Ireland and the Isles were asked in the survey?

Can you post a link to who carried out the survey

There may be some survey results on you gov. I've done surveys on there but it just takes me to my homepage

Thank You

No problem

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Latest news this morning,83 % members of the Public Supports 2nd Wave of Locked Down.

How will you cope with Lifting of restrictions from tomorrow as its Super Saturday after months of Locked Down.

Pub, hairdressers and some other shops opening tomorrow.

Your thoughts?

83% of who? The entire UK.

Or 83% of the 75 members of the public that were asked? 83% of members of the public whom were asked.

So 83% of the United Kingdom, Northern Ireland and the Isles were asked in the survey?

Can you post a link to who carried out the survey

There may be some survey results on you gov. I've done surveys on there but it just takes me to my homepage

Thank You

No problem

The only poll from the YouGov web page is under Covid-19 -

"70% of key workers are worried for families health"

Nothing regarding the stated 83%.

I'm curious now of where the op obtained his stats?

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"Latest news this morning,83 % members of the Public Supports 2nd Wave of Locked Down.

How will you cope with Lifting of restrictions from tomorrow as its Super Saturday after months of Locked Down.

Pub, hairdressers and some other shops opening tomorrow.

Your thoughts?

83% of who? The entire UK.

Or 83% of the 75 members of the public that were asked? 83% of members of the public whom were asked.

So 83% of the United Kingdom, Northern Ireland and the Isles were asked in the survey?

Can you post a link to who carried out the survey

There may be some survey results on you gov. I've done surveys on there but it just takes me to my homepage

Thank You

No problem

The only poll from the YouGov web page is under Covid-19 -

"70% of key workers are worried for families health"

Nothing regarding the stated 83%.

I'm curious now of where the op obtained his stats?"

Ahh I don't know where OP has got the information, that was my best guess. Thanks for sharing that tho

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"Latest news this morning,83 % members of the Public Supports 2nd Wave of Locked Down.

How will you cope with Lifting of restrictions from tomorrow as its Super Saturday after months of Locked Down.

Pub, hairdressers and some other shops opening tomorrow.

Your thoughts?"
I am very glad at least it shows the people have more sense than I often give them credit for.If Boris wants to be popular he should bring back strict lockdown if a secomd wave,borders should be closed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So we are coming out of lockdown trying to mix and get back to normal, but no the 2nd wave is going to kill us all. But must come out of lockdown for the economy, and just watch people die. We have to follow spain,Italy, France and the rest,who are mixing now and dying in there thousands . Wake up coming out of lockdown is not going to kill us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I was being paid to stay at home I'd want lockdown to continue

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By *razyhorse58Man
over a year ago

West Midlands

Realistically there will always be a 2nd wave as you return from lockdown, it’s how that is managed at a regional basis that counts. We all need to just get back to work and bring money in, surely it is not sustainable to pause the economy indefinitely. Generations upon generations will be paying for all this in taxes for years to come.

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By *elshsunsWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire

Thank god ....

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By *old1974Man
over a year ago

Manchester

I want lockdown to end it's killing me.lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But you can't even spell "disease". Hmmmm ok though to your 40yrs fighting disease."

Mocking my bad spelling, big man

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Realistically there will always be a 2nd wave as you return from lockdown, it’s how that is managed at a regional basis that counts. We all need to just get back to work and bring money in, surely it is not sustainable to pause the economy indefinitely. Generations upon generations will be paying for all this in taxes for years to come. "

This .

It's a very tight balancing act.

People need to get out there and back to work.

Keep the people that need to shield safe.

But let's get the rest back out working.

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By *eefyBangerMan
over a year ago

edinburgh

In other news 83% support getting 80% of their salary for sitting in the house doing fuck all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't want any more lockdown down. I will end up starving for bread if it goes on again. I haven't had a penny coming in for months.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In other news 83% support getting 80% of their salary for sitting in the house doing fuck all"

Now that's the truth!

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

"In other news 83% support getting 80% of their salary for sitting in the house doing fuck all"
Absolutely wonder how many would support lockdown when there’s no money coming in ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In other news 83% support getting 80% of their salary for sitting in the house doing fuck all Absolutely wonder how many would support lockdown when there’s no money coming in ? "

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"So we are coming out of lockdown trying to mix and get back to normal, but no the 2nd wave is going to kill us all. But must come out of lockdown for the economy, and just watch people die. We have to follow spain,Italy, France and the rest,who are mixing now and dying in there thousands . Wake up coming out of lockdown is not going to kill us."
Les will die as they know how to treat it better and anyway,but will be nowwhere near as bad

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By *uiet confidenceMan
over a year ago

Warrington

I don’t understand - is this saying 83% think we’ll suffer a 2nd wave? Or 83% think we should go back into lockdown, right now?

I agree that we’ll probably see a 2nd wave, but we at least have to try coming out of lockdown - otherwise we’ll just go bankrupt, both individually and as a nation.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"I don’t understand - is this saying 83% think we’ll suffer a 2nd wave? Or 83% think we should go back into lockdown, right now?

I agree that we’ll probably see a 2nd wave, but we at least have to try coming out of lockdown - otherwise we’ll just go bankrupt, both individually and as a nation."
In all fairness whatever the government does is a risk,if people are carefull it will work but so many are stupid,the pubs opening is a worry

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By *uiet confidenceMan
over a year ago

Warrington

"I don’t understand - is this saying 83% think we’ll suffer a 2nd wave? Or 83% think we should go back into lockdown, right now?

I agree that we’ll probably see a 2nd wave, but we at least have to try coming out of lockdown - otherwise we’ll just go bankrupt, both individually and as a nation.In all fairness whatever the government does is a risk,if people are carefull it will work but so many are stupid,the pubs opening is a worry"

Yep, got to dip a toe in, test the water.

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By *uietlykinkymeWoman
over a year ago

kinky land

You gov did ask me yesterday if I would support another lockdown

There was a fairly even split across the answers though so I can't see the support option jumping up that high

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"You gov did ask me yesterday if I would support another lockdown

There was a fairly even split across the answers though so I can't see the support option jumping up that high

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I voted and am not against another lockdown if needed,local ones will happen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don’t understand - is this saying 83% think we’ll suffer a 2nd wave? Or 83% think we should go back into lockdown, right now?

I agree that we’ll probably manufacturing see a 2nd wave, but we at least have to try coming out of lockdown - otherwise we’ll just go bankrupt, both individually and as a nation."

More like 83% of people who want to continue getting paid for doing nothing. I can't blame though because I'd like that as well.. But it doesn't work like that for all of us.

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

I'm lucky, I still have a job! But I am also unlucky with working from home is a complete nightmare! My IT systems are shit, I've asked for an upgrade but so far no good, I'm still expected to deliver the work on time but when your working with financial information you can't rush, but when you are also having to reboot 3x a day that take at least 30 mins each time is not acceptable, so we are not all relishing playing 'fun in the sun' as some parents will take their kids to the beach, to Primark and now contemplating holidays abroad, curtesy of the government handouts,

but it's not safe to go back to school??

This country should be ashamed of itself! I am truly disappointed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hear*"

Several more corrections needed love.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

In that case I'm in the 17% that don't. I don't think our economy and well being can take it.

We can't hide from this thing forever.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

I think it is going to be a clusterfuck, there won't be social distancing, the additional cleaning regimes will go out the window.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hear*

Several more corrections needed love. "

Iv said earlier in my post I'm not good at spelling,so carry on taking the piss

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hear*

Several more corrections needed love.

Iv said earlier in my post I'm not good at spelling,so carry on taking the piss

Actually I'm not. I just thought it strange you'd only correct one error.

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By *heltenhamBiGuyMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

Hear*

Several more corrections needed love. "

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By *adMerWoman
over a year ago

Sandwich

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So I’ve looked and looked where does 83% come from?

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

fine by me either way, as long as I can isolate from the virus.

2nd lockdown inevitable because there are Americans sneeking into the country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"fine by me either way, as long as I can isolate from the virus.

2nd lockdown inevitable because there are Americans sneeking into the country.

Yep a bit like boris's dad sneaking into Greece via Bulgaria...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hear*

Several more corrections needed love.

Iv said earlier in my post I'm not good at spelling,so carry on taking the piss

Actually I'm not. I just thought it strange you'd only correct one error. "

So this is what all that studying has come down to....a fab spelling cop.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Latest news this morning,83 % members of the Public Supports 2nd Wave of Locked Down.

I wonder how much support would drop off for a second wave lockdown if the Government stopped paying for the majority of the country to sit at home

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is this the sky news poll? Sure I heard it on there yesterday they had done a poll and 80 odd % were in favour of a 2nd lockdown or something.

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By *irtyfuckercoolMan
over a year ago

upton

the problem is the balance of lockdown and bankruptcy etc. there no more tax payers money left for furloughs or supporting companies equals mass job losses as nevever seen in my lifetime. on the other hand idiots going abroad air bridges, mass gatherings on beaches and demonstrations it's all mad

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

"Is this the sky news poll? Sure I heard it on there yesterday they had done a poll and 80 odd % were in favour of a 2nd lockdown or something. "
80 % said they don’t mind sitting out the summer away from work and drawing there money whilst watching the country sink into unprecedented debt

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over a year ago

"Latest news ...83% Of the people they asked are cowards. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In other news 83% support getting 80% of their salary for sitting in the house doing fuck all"

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By *aisyDoandDaisyDontWoman
over a year ago

little old town of Reading!

"83% of people who don't have a business on its arse, a pub about to close, a job in aviation or some one who goes to work every day with a mortgage to pay. Let's all go back into lockdown and live like a third world country."

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

leeds

I think we should go to full lockdown now. Kids summer holidays let's get it sorted before winter

Goverment needs replacing lost the plot and I support initially

Sack prime minster cummings and assistant boris

World beating at getting it wrong.

Full lockdown now before 2 late

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By *ncutgemMan
over a year ago

Bath ish

"Latest news ...83% Of the people they asked are cowards. "

And 100% of THE mindless selfish like you have no brian but more important no soul The purpose of lockdown is to protestr hospitals so the can still treat morons who need medical attention heart transplant any one

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

leeds

"Is this the sky news poll? Sure I heard it on there yesterday they had done a poll and 80 odd % were in favour of a 2nd lockdown or something. 80 % said they don’t mind sitting out the summer away from work and drawing there money whilst watching the country sink into unprecedented debt "

I go to work every day FULL LOCKDOWN IMMEDIATELY.

WHAT VALUE DO YOU GIVE TO LIFE!!

65K ADDITIONAL DEATHS FACT OR DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT SOMEONE'S PARENT OR GRANDPARENT

WHAT A SELFISH COUNTRY WE LIVE IN

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By *BWarksCouple
over a year ago

warwick

Really can’t believe people on here ..... no 2nd lockdown and there never should have been a 1st one either.....

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"Latest news ...83% Of the people they asked are cowards. "

I've been doing everything I can to protect myself, my loved ones, those around me and those at risk.

I've been doing all I can to reduce the risk of catching it or passing it on.

That's not cowardly, that's being a sensible, caring, thoughtful, considerate human being.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a bit of a twat.

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

I go to work every day FULL LOCKDOWN IMMEDIATELY.

WHAT VALUE DO YOU GIVE TO LIFE!!

65K ADDITIONAL DEATHS FACT OR DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT SOMEONE'S PARENT OR GRANDPARENT

WHAT A SELFISH COUNTRY WE LIVE IN"
so all the cancer patents and other people who haven’t been treated don’t matter ? About 1 per cent of people who get virus actually succumb to it and 98 percent of them are in the high risk group ,Ian surprised you ever venture out of your house with all the risks of life but then again being in the house has risk as well

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By *ncutgemMan
over a year ago

Bath ish

"Latest news ...83% Of the people they asked are cowards.

Some of us have a good chance of dying should we get this virus...

Yep, it's cowardly of me to want to fucking survive instead of dying an awful and painful death alone. "

Is tragic there are things out the can even think coward it is only because of them some are sentenced to solitary confinement hopefully not a death sentence A bit of proper solitary in a dark box for a week with no phone might see who s a coward

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By *ackandtheunicornCouple
over a year ago

liverpool

Wether its needed or not I don't see how the country can afford another lockdown. We're already in crippling debt with unprecedented unemployment.

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

leeds

"Really can’t believe people on here ..... no 2nd lockdown and there never should have been a 1st one either..... "

Tell 65 k people who died that

Also the 250 k who woukd died without lockdown

YOU ARE SELFISH AND COWARD IF YOU DON'T WANT HELP THE VULNERABLE I WOULD CALL THAT A COWARD

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"I think we should go to full lockdown now. Kids summer holidays let's get it sorted before winter

Goverment needs replacing lost the plot and I support initially

Sack prime minster cummings and assistant boris

World beating at getting it wrong.

Full lockdown now before 2 late "

If the Labour party were in power and making the same decisions as the incumbent party, would you still be demanding the government be replaced and the PM be sacked?

It's a yes or no question.

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

leeds

"Wether its needed or not I don't see how the country can afford another lockdown. We're already in crippling debt with unprecedented unemployment."

What price do you put on a life??

Where u outside liver Buildings breaking social distance rules

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

"Wether its needed or not I don't see how the country can afford another lockdown. We're already in crippling debt with unprecedented unemployment."
you have it so right , when people lose there jobs ,homes ,see there children have no prospects see there attitudes suddenly change ,all for a virus that we know only really affects the declared at high risk who could have been better isolated

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

leeds

"I think we should go to full lockdown now. Kids summer holidays let's get it sorted before winter

Goverment needs replacing lost the plot and I support initially

Sack prime minster cummings and assistant boris

World beating at getting it wrong.

Full lockdown now before 2 late

If the Labour party were in power and making the same decisions as the incumbent party, would you still be demanding the government be replaced and the PM be sacked?

It's a yes or no question.

Yes

I voted for Boris never voted Labour ever but

I think prime minster cummings should be sacked and assistant boris.

No bigger failing then not protecting vulnerable lives

A government should protect the vulnerable not the greedy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Know better in what respect?

That the experts,there seems to be quite a few lately, actually I only listen to one now, his podcast is straight talk, no sugar coating anything,it's quite scary what he thinks will happen"

While I agree with you that this virus has to be taken seriously I'm not sure that listening to only one expert is right as even experts get things wrong, having said that I listen to a lot of experts to gain a better understanding and the majority view from them is that this is a very real problem and unless the public acknowledge this and start behaving responsibly in public we're going to be fucked again and face many more deaths come winter

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By *aisyDoandDaisyDontWoman
over a year ago

little old town of Reading!

"I think we should go to full lockdown now. Kids summer holidays let's get it sorted "

Children have already been locked up and denied their basic human right of access to education for the last four months. You want them to suffer even more?!? Jeesh!

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

leeds

OK we're getting somewhere you agree the at risk should be better protected

I agree no lockdown I'd the vulnerable protected

But as you said there not so goverment failed

Until you protect the vulnerable lockdiwn only option.

You can always make money in future YOU CAANT BRING PEOPLE BACK TO LIFE

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By *aisyDoandDaisyDontWoman
over a year ago

little old town of Reading!

"Wether its needed or not I don't see how the country can afford another lockdown. We're already in crippling debt with unprecedented unemployment. you have it so right , when people lose there jobs ,homes ,see there children have no prospects see there attitudes suddenly change ,all for a virus that we know only really affects the declared at high risk who could have been better isolated "

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

I read someone bleating that we shouldn't be afraid of Covid 19 because it didn't affect 99.65% of the worlds population.

Someone pointed out that the remaining .35% of the population was over 22 million people.....

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

leeds

"I think we should go to full lockdown now. Kids summer holidays let's get it sorted

Children have already been locked up and denied their basic human right of access to education for the last four months. You want them to suffer even more?!? Jeesh! "

No I don't but no school or loss of life

No school no brainer

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"I think we should go to full lockdown now. Kids summer holidays let's get it sorted

Children have already been locked up and denied their basic human right of access to education for the last four months. You want them to suffer even more?!? Jeesh!

No I don't but no school or loss of life

No school no brainer"

Do you have children?

Do you have a partner?

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

leeds

Answer this question I saw on bbc

If both parents shielding how can child go to school

Risk child OK but spreads virus to parents shielding

Both parents die

Child becomes ORPHAN HOW IS THAT IN CHILDS BEST INTEREST

So should child go to school everyone avoids question

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

leeds

"I think we should go to full lockdown now. Kids summer holidays let's get it sorted

Children have already been locked up and denied their basic human right of access to education for the last four months. You want them to suffer even more?!? Jeesh!

No I don't but no school or loss of life

No school no brainer

Do you have children?

Do you have a partner?"

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think we should go to full lockdown now. Kids summer holidays let's get it sorted before winter

Goverment needs replacing lost the plot and I support initially

Sack prime minster cummings and assistant boris

World beating at getting it wrong.

Full lockdown now before 2 late

If the Labour party were in power and making the same decisions as the incumbent party, would you still be demanding the government be replaced and the PM be sacked?

It's a yes or no question.

I'm not a tory supporter but if Labour were in power and making the same mistake as Boris and his team of clowns I would have no problem labeling Labour clowns as well. This is a Pandemic so having blinkers on and supporting a party who gets things so blatently wrong and that should apply to whatever party is in power. Boris is the current incumbent in Downing Street so he has to take the criticism of being at the top end of countries in dealing with this crisis

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"I think we should go to full lockdown now. Kids summer holidays let's get it sorted

Children have already been locked up and denied their basic human right of access to education for the last four months. You want them to suffer even more?!? Jeesh! "

But they haven't though have they? Seriously what does a 6,7,8 year old learn at school that 30bminutes with a half decent parent can't teach them each day?

A book, some crayons... And then the older ones are being self sufficient, that's a great skill to learn. I admit that it's less than ideal. But to equate 3 or 4 extra months of their life at home with a denial of human right is hyperbole.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

Some of us have worked throughout this. Personally, I would have struggled mentally with staying home all the time.

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By *aisyDoandDaisyDontWoman
over a year ago

little old town of Reading!

"I think we should go to full lockdown now. Kids summer holidays let's get it sorted

Children have already been locked up and denied their basic human right of access to education for the last four months. You want them to suffer even more?!? Jeesh!

No I don't but no school or loss of life

No school no brainer"

Liberty and education are both fundamental human rights. You are suggesting forcibly taking these things from children. Children who are naturally less at risk and lower risk of passing it on. As for your query about shielding parents - I would suggest the social services step in and provide temporary foster care for that child. There is no excuse to punish a child for their parents illness, whatever it may be.

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

leeds

The only point we seem to agree on

Vulnerable need more protection

Therefore it is fundinental the goverment protect the vulnerable

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk

"I think we should go to full lockdown now. Kids summer holidays let's get it sorted

Children have already been locked up and denied their basic human right of access to education for the last four months. You want them to suffer even more?!? Jeesh!

No I don't but no school or loss of life

No school no brainer

Do you have children?

Do you have a partner?"

Our kids have been back 3 weeks now. No problems at all.

They are all allocated thier social bubbles and have staggered timings and areas for playtime.

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

leeds

The only point we seem to agree on

Vulnerable need more protection

Therefore it is fundinental the goverment protect the vulnerable

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

"Answer this question I saw on bbc

If both parents shielding how can child go to school

Risk child OK but spreads virus to parents shielding

Both parents die

Child becomes ORPHAN HOW IS THAT IN CHILDS BEST INTEREST

So should child go to school everyone avoids question"
. If both parents are shielding a high risk child no the child can’t go to school but nor can the parents go out ,it’s a really terrible problem and those are the people who really need help ,

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

leeds

"I think we should go to full lockdown now. Kids summer holidays let's get it sorted

Children have already been locked up and denied their basic human right of access to education for the last four months. You want them to suffer even more?!? Jeesh!

No I don't but no school or loss of life

No school no brainer

Do you have children?

Do you have a partner?

Our kids have been back 3 weeks now. No problems at all.

They are all allocated thier social bubbles and have staggered timings and areas for playtime.

You OK the kids, seeing grandparents

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk

"I think we should go to full lockdown now. Kids summer holidays let's get it sorted

Children have already been locked up and denied their basic human right of access to education for the last four months. You want them to suffer even more?!? Jeesh!

No I don't but no school or loss of life

No school no brainer

Do you have children?

Do you have a partner?

Our kids have been back 3 weeks now. No problems at all.

They are all allocated thier social bubbles and have staggered timings and areas for playtime.

You OK the kids, seeing grandparents

Yes.

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By *aisyDoandDaisyDontWoman
over a year ago

little old town of Reading!

"I think we should go to full lockdown now. Kids summer holidays let's get it sorted

Children have already been locked up and denied their basic human right of access to education for the last four months. You want them to suffer even more?!? Jeesh!

But they haven't though have they? Seriously what does a 6,7,8 year old learn at school that 30bminutes with a half decent parent can't teach them each day?

I work in education. I can tell you that school life and education is about far more than learning your abc. It’s not hyperbole to suggest that denying the right of a child to education contravenes the child’s human rights. It’s a simple, cold hard fact.

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By *irtyfuckercoolMan
over a year ago

upton

wat with no more money

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By *aisyDoandDaisyDontWoman
over a year ago

little old town of Reading!

"Answer this question I saw on bbc

If both parents shielding how can child go to school

Risk child OK but spreads virus to parents shielding

Both parents die

Child becomes ORPHAN HOW IS THAT IN CHILDS BEST INTEREST

So should child go to school everyone avoids question. If both parents are shielding a high risk child no the child can’t go to school but nor can the parents go out ,it’s a really terrible problem and those are the people who really need help ,"

That child could be placed in temporary foster care, stay with a family member or family friend. There is no reason whatsoever for that child not to go to school.

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

leeds

"Answer this question I saw on bbc

If both parents shielding how can child go to school

Risk child OK but spreads virus to parents shielding

Both parents die

Child becomes ORPHAN HOW IS THAT IN CHILDS BEST INTEREST

Thank you that's the pointing making goverment threatening fines

Annd saying child safe to go to school is appropriate most but not those shielding

I have sent many worried people asked this question and no answer given and people forum not considering vulnerable thank for your reply

It's not us who are wrong we all got our opinions but getting mixed messages from goverment causing misunderstanding between decent people

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By *aisyDoandDaisyDontWoman
over a year ago

little old town of Reading!

"Answer this question I saw on bbc

If both parents shielding how can child go to school

Risk child OK but spreads virus to parents shielding

Both parents die

Child becomes ORPHAN HOW IS THAT IN CHILDS BEST INTEREST

Thank you that's the pointing making goverment threatening fines

Annd saying child safe to go to school is appropriate most but not those shielding

I have sent many worried people asked this question and no answer given and people forum not considering vulnerable thank for your reply

It's not us who are wrong we all got our opinions but getting mixed messages from goverment causing misunderstanding between decent people "

Are you ignoring me?

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

leeds

"Answer this question I saw on bbc

If both parents shielding how can child go to school

Risk child OK but spreads virus to parents shielding

Both parents die

Child becomes ORPHAN HOW IS THAT IN CHILDS BEST INTEREST

That child could be placed in temporary foster care, stay with a family member or family friend. There is no reason whatsoever for that child not to go to school."

What mother would want to be separated from her child

Secondly the harm would do to the child

CAN I ASK ARE YOU A MOTHER

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk

The goverment gudlines were clear, and the schools in our area are doing fine.

I have only praise for all the teachers involved as they had a monumental task to contend with.

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By *aisyDoandDaisyDontWoman
over a year ago

little old town of Reading!

"Answer this question I saw on bbc

If both parents shielding how can child go to school

Risk child OK but spreads virus to parents shielding

Both parents die

Child becomes ORPHAN HOW IS THAT IN CHILDS BEST INTEREST

That child could be placed in temporary foster care, stay with a family member or family friend. There is no reason whatsoever for that child not to go to school.

What mother would want to be separated from her child

Secondly the harm would do to the child

CAN I ASK ARE YOU A MOTHER"

Yes I am actually. If it was a choice between my child languishing at home for the sake of my own health, or sending them to stay with their beloved aunt until it’s safe to come home. I would choose the latter option every time.

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

leeds

If you work education the child well being is priority

A child wants to be with their parents

No decent parent would want to be away from their child

There a solution. In exceptional circumstances child home schools this is exceptional

Im sad you believe a child who is worried anyway should be taken away from family home

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

83% of who was asked? I wasn't asked, neither were my wife or any of our friends so exactly who were this 83% you talk about, did they only ask 100 people, simply put there's a serious lack of information to go quoting some bloody survey that most of us haven't even seen

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

leeds

"The goverment gudlines were clear, and the schools in our area are doing fine.

I have only praise for all the teachers involved as they had a monumental task to contend with.

You trust the goverment

After All the lies and dimminc cummings

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By *aisyDoandDaisyDontWoman
over a year ago

little old town of Reading!

"If you work education the child well being is priority

A child wants to be with their parents

No decent parent would want to be away from their child

There a solution. In exceptional circumstances child home schools this is exceptional

Im sad you believe a child who is worried anyway should be taken away from family home "

Okay. Now you are just being rude and hysterical. I’m sad that some children are going to be mollycoddled by their overprotective parents. This generation of children really are going to suffer for the terrible decisions made by the adults in their lives.

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk

"If you work education the child well being is priority

A child wants to be with their parents

No decent parent would want to be away from their child

There a solution. In exceptional circumstances child home schools this is exceptional

Im sad you believe a child who is worried anyway should be taken away from family home "

I can see your point, but I do think the family nucleus is inherently variable and some families are closer than others.

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

leeds

At least. You answered the qyestion

Swarks avoided

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk

"The goverment gudlines were clear, and the schools in our area are doing fine.

I have only praise for all the teachers involved as they had a monumental task to contend with.

You trust the goverment

After All the lies and dimminc cummings"

I trust the schools and the teachers to carry on with what they are currently doing as it works.

Regardless if I trust the goverment or not, the emphasis is on the kids not and not pissing contest about which politician did what.

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By *aisyDoandDaisyDontWoman
over a year ago

little old town of Reading!

Also- it is the welfare of the child that is paramount. Wellbeing is a different word.

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

leeds

"If you work education the child well being is priority

A child wants to be with their parents

No decent parent would want to be away from their child

My children have 100 percent attendance one parent is, a scholl governor

Education is priority

Protecting family is paramount to any decent person.

Additionally not all school teachers act on child's best interest alot just career and money. NOT ALL.

Hope your children realise you put education before the family

You can't bring people back to life.

Friend of mine had a year off with illness when 9. Now has PhD and very senior job.

Bit his parent when theyt were 9 and they haven't brought them back to life but did recover education family protection first can't believe any parent would disagree

There a solution. In exceptional circumstances child home schools this is exceptional

Im sad you believe a child who is worried anyway should be taken away from family home

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Answer this question I saw on bbc

If both parents shielding how can child go to school

Risk child OK but spreads virus to parents shielding

Both parents die

Child becomes ORPHAN HOW IS THAT IN CHILDS BEST INTEREST

That child could be placed in temporary foster care, stay with a family member or family friend. There is no reason whatsoever for that child not to go to school.

What mother would want to be separated from her child

Secondly the harm would do to the child

CAN I ASK ARE YOU A MOTHER

Not all children have aunts or other support people they can turn to and these are mainly disadvantaged children in this category. If a disadvantaged family with no support have shielding issues and have no support then the child should be able to remain at home. It's no use being a 'jobsworth' in this type of situation.

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

leeds

"Also- it is the welfare of the child that is paramount. Wellbeing is a different word."

Before pandamic

People self school what's the criteria?

As I said one parent school govenor

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

leeds

"Answer this question I saw on bbc

If both parents shielding how can child go to school

Risk child OK but spreads virus to parents shielding

Thank jobsworth. Each case on merits

Both parents die

Child becomes ORPHAN HOW IS THAT IN CHILDS BEST INTEREST

That child could be placed in temporary foster care, stay with a family member or family friend. There is no reason whatsoever for that child not to go to school.

What mother would want to be separated from her child

Secondly the harm would do to the child

CAN I ASK ARE YOU A MOTHER

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Also- it is the welfare of the child that is paramount. Wellbeing is a different word.

Before pandamic

People self school what's the criteria?

As I said one parent school govenor"

I think you just need to accept that parents are sending kids back to school.

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By *aisyDoandDaisyDontWoman
over a year ago

little old town of Reading!

"Answer this question I saw on bbc

If both parents shielding how can child go to school

Risk child OK but spreads virus to parents shielding

Both parents die

Child becomes ORPHAN HOW IS THAT IN CHILDS BEST INTEREST

That child could be placed in temporary foster care, stay with a family member or family friend. There is no reason whatsoever for that child not to go to school.

What mother would want to be separated from her child

Secondly the harm would do to the child

CAN I ASK ARE YOU A MOTHER

Then as I have said twice now- social services can step in. It’s nothing to do with being a jobsworth. Strange connection there!

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By *ymguy1966Man
over a year ago

Port Talbot

"Latest news this morning,83 % members of the Public Supports 2nd Wave of Locked Down.

How will you cope with Lifting of restrictions from tomorrow as its Super Saturday after months of Locked Down.

Pub, hairdressers and some other shops opening tomorrow.

Your thoughts?"

Inaccurate figures...not everyone has been questioned or surveyed

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By *aisyDoandDaisyDontWoman
over a year ago

little old town of Reading!

"Also- it is the welfare of the child that is paramount. Wellbeing is a different word.

Before pandamic

People self school what's the criteria?

As I said one parent school govenor"

Well I don’t agree with home schooling either, but that is another debate!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Answer this question I saw on bbc

If both parents shielding how can child go to school

Risk child OK but spreads virus to parents shielding

Both parents die

Child becomes ORPHAN HOW IS THAT IN CHILDS BEST INTEREST

That child could be placed in temporary foster care, stay with a family member or family friend. There is no reason whatsoever for that child not to go to school.

What mother would want to be separated from her child

Secondly the harm would do to the child

CAN I ASK ARE YOU A MOTHER

Then as I have said twice now- social services can step in. It’s nothing to do with being a jobsworth. Strange connection there! "

Social services are probably more under resourced than they have been for decades, and this applied before this Pandemic arrived, and do disadvantaged family's want to be separated, do Foster families want to take on more children in this current climate, do disadvantaged families trust social services???

. Think of previous instances in our history where children have forcibly been separated from their families and this could be a problem waiting to bite back. And I think 'jobsworth' is very apt in this situation. People need to think outside 'the box' adapt and apply a common sense approach

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By *aisyDoandDaisyDontWoman
over a year ago

little old town of Reading!

"Answer this question I saw on bbc

If both parents shielding how can child go to school

Risk child OK but spreads virus to parents shielding

Both parents die

Child becomes ORPHAN HOW IS THAT IN CHILDS BEST INTEREST

That child could be placed in temporary foster care, stay with a family member or family friend. There is no reason whatsoever for that child not to go to school.

What mother would want to be separated from her child

Secondly the harm would do to the child

CAN I ASK ARE YOU A MOTHER

Then as I have said twice now- social services can step in. It’s nothing to do with being a jobsworth. Strange connection there!

Could you please explain how I am being deliberately unhelpful or obstructive by suggesting children could be placed outside of the family home?

I’m concession to what you say, I suppose a child shouldn’t be forcibly removed from their home. However, I personally feel that keeping a developing child from their friends, fresh air, freedom and education, to protect my own health, would be incredibly selfish of me.

As for social services- yes I realise they are under a lot of pressure. Sadly that will always be the case. However, social services tend to look for temporary foster arrangements within the child’s family in the first instance (unless of course, the family is the problem!!) - so it’s not like I’m talking about ripping children away from their homes and placing them in a dungeon somewhere.

As for children being separated in the past- my grandad was sent away from London as an evacuee. His parents didn’t hyperventilate and clutch at their nighties. They did what was right for the children and sent them to a place of safety.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Answer this question I saw on bbc

If both parents shielding how can child go to school

Risk child OK but spreads virus to parents shielding

Both parents die

Child becomes ORPHAN HOW IS THAT IN CHILDS BEST INTEREST

That child could be placed in temporary foster care, stay with a family member or family friend. There is no reason whatsoever for that child not to go to school.

What mother would want to be separated from her child

Secondly the harm would do to the child

CAN I ASK ARE YOU A MOTHER

Then as I have said twice now- social services can step in. It’s nothing to do with being a jobsworth. Strange connection there!

Could you please explain how I am being deliberately unhelpful or obstructive by suggesting children could be placed outside of the family home?

Children do need education and social interaction and in an ideal world this would be enforced. This is not ideal times and families have to be shown some respect in what their view is best for their child.Very Few children and their families would gain a rightly so good outcome like your grandad did.

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Answer this question I saw on bbc

If both parents shielding how can child go to school

Risk child OK but spreads virus to parents shielding

Both parents die

Child becomes ORPHAN HOW IS THAT IN CHILDS BEST INTEREST

That child could be placed in temporary foster care, stay with a family member or family friend. There is no reason whatsoever for that child not to go to school.

What mother would want to be separated from her child

Secondly the harm would do to the child

CAN I ASK ARE YOU A MOTHER

Then as I have said twice now- social services can step in. It’s nothing to do with being a jobsworth. Strange connection there!

Could you please explain how I am being deliberately unhelpful or obstructive by suggesting children could be placed outside of the family home?

Absolutely. It the families choice to make considering the current risks.

There are currently two options, send your child or don't.

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By *aisyDoandDaisyDontWoman
over a year ago

little old town of Reading!

"Answer this question I saw on bbc

If both parents shielding how can child go to school

Risk child OK but spreads virus to parents shielding

Both parents die

Child becomes ORPHAN HOW IS THAT IN CHILDS BEST INTEREST

That child could be placed in temporary foster care, stay with a family member or family friend. There is no reason whatsoever for that child not to go to school.

What mother would want to be separated from her child

Secondly the harm would do to the child

CAN I ASK ARE YOU A MOTHER

Then as I have said twice now- social services can step in. It’s nothing to do with being a jobsworth. Strange connection there!

Could you please explain how I am being deliberately unhelpful or obstructive by suggesting children could be placed outside of the family home?

I think that parents should be respected - of course I do. I also think that they should be gently encouraged to consider all options and their potential outcomes for the future of their children. It’s not good enough to say- I know my kids, I know what’s best. Some people simply don’t know what is best, because they dont understand exactly what it is that education in schools offer children. The person who suggested that children are fine with a bit of paper and some crayons, for example. If people understood the wider benefits of access to education, perhaps their viewpoints on the importance of education would be different.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Answer this question I saw on bbc

If both parents shielding how can child go to school

Risk child OK but spreads virus to parents shielding

Both parents die

Child becomes ORPHAN HOW IS THAT IN CHILDS BEST INTEREST

That child could be placed in temporary foster care, stay with a family member or family friend. There is no reason whatsoever for that child not to go to school.

What mother would want to be separated from her child

Secondly the harm would do to the child

CAN I ASK ARE YOU A MOTHER

Then as I have said twice now- social services can step in. It’s nothing to do with being a jobsworth. Strange connection there!

Could you please explain how I am being deliberately unhelpful or obstructive by suggesting children could be placed outside of the family home?

In an ideal world I agree but in these unprecedented times I think families should be given more of a say and while I'm sure most of social services offer a good and efficient service I could see that because of many of their well publicised past failings a good many family's would be distrusting of their advice

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By *heblackmac OP Man
over a year ago

Ladywell, Lewisham.

"83% of who was asked? I wasn't asked, neither were my wife or any of our friends so exactly who were this 83% you talk about, did they only ask 100 people, simply put there's a serious lack of information to go quoting some bloody survey that most of us haven't even seen"
Just to clear up everything in the air ,this news came in yesterday morning on Sky news

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By *aisyDoandDaisyDontWoman
over a year ago

little old town of Reading!

"Answer this question I saw on bbc

If both parents shielding how can child go to school

Risk child OK but spreads virus to parents shielding

Both parents die

Child becomes ORPHAN HOW IS THAT IN CHILDS BEST INTEREST

That child could be placed in temporary foster care, stay with a family member or family friend. There is no reason whatsoever for that child not to go to school.

What mother would want to be separated from her child

Secondly the harm would do to the child

CAN I ASK ARE YOU A MOTHER

Then as I have said twice now- social services can step in. It’s nothing to do with being a jobsworth. Strange connection there!

Could you please explain how I am being deliberately unhelpful or obstructive by suggesting children could be placed outside of the family home?

Many people have distrust of vaccinations, distrust of the police, distrust of the government in general, distrust in 5g, distrust in ... well ... I could go on all morning of what many may people distrust. I have to say though- when I saw places like Harringay on the list of places that may see rising cases/potential localised lockdown, my heart sank. But again- that is another debate!

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By *aisyDoandDaisyDontWoman
over a year ago

little old town of Reading!

Haha - of course, that should have said “many people may distrust“. Whoops!

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By *allmeDavidMan
over a year ago

london

Confused...What do they support? Do they support locking down before weve even unlocked or do they support it if it ever happens?

TBH if 80 odd percent of people supported it and stayed locked down the rest of us would be pretty safe going about our usual business.

Wonder what their opinion is on that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Confused...What do they support? Do they support locking down before weve even unlocked or do they support it if it ever happens?

TBH if 80 odd percent of people supported it and stayed locked down the rest of us would be pretty safe going about our usual business.

Wonder what their opinion is on that?

20% of the population is hell of a lot of people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some of us have worked throughout this. Personally, I would have struggled mentally with staying home all the time."

It's good to look at different perspectives. Far too often on here people are expressing jealousy that there are those on furlough.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think we should go to full lockdown now. Kids summer holidays let's get it sorted

Children have already been locked up and denied their basic human right of access to education for the last four months. You want them to suffer even more?!? Jeesh!

No I don't but no school or loss of life

No school no brainer

I doubt there are hundreds of Foster parents ready waiting. Social services are always calling for more.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"83% of who was asked? I wasn't asked, neither were my wife or any of our friends so exactly who were this 83% you talk about, did they only ask 100 people, simply put there's a serious lack of information to go quoting some bloody survey that most of us haven't even seenJust to clear up everything in the air ,this news came in yesterday morning on Sky news"

Cheers OP

This is the article you were referring to-

https://news-sky-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-britons-would-strongly-back-second-lockdown-if-covid-19-cases-spike-poll-reveals-12019957?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15938611948462&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.sky.com%2Fstory%2Fcoronavirus-britons-would-strongly-back-second-lockdown-if-covid-19-cases-spike-poll-reveals-12019957

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

And the official poll stats-

YouGov interviewed 1,610 British adults on 29 June and 30 June.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

Going to school and an getting an education are not mutually exclusive. You think the kids at school now are getting much education, they are just getting babysat. I agree kids need education but just sending them to school with no social distancing in place is madness at the moment. Maybe kids going in half the time and the rest of the time taught online, makes social distancing in school a lot easier.

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By *aisyDoandDaisyDontWoman
over a year ago

little old town of Reading!

"I think we should go to full lockdown now. Kids summer holidays let's get it sorted

Children have already been locked up and denied their basic human right of access to education for the last four months. You want them to suffer even more?!? Jeesh!

No I don't but no school or loss of life

No school no brainer

I doubt there are hundreds of Foster parents ready waiting. Social services are always calling for more.

If you read my posts you will see where I quite clearly say that social services look to place children with family in the first instant. It’s getting a bit boring having to repeat myself to those who only seem to read what they want to read.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

83% bet the question was asked at a hospital, were they don't have to worry because their pay check is paid into their bank every month. What about the millions sitting at home because the government has banned them from working, and now worried sick if they have a job next week. But its ok lock us down again if your job is for life, and stuff the rest let them go under there's always the food banks.

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By *lackstudsCouple (MM)
over a year ago

London

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By *D835Man
over a year ago

London

"Confused...What do they support? Do they support locking down before weve even unlocked or do they support it if it ever happens?

TBH if 80 odd percent of people supported it and stayed locked down the rest of us would be pretty safe going about our usual business.

Wonder what their opinion is on that?

"....the rest of us would be pretty safe going about our usual business...."

And how will you be going about your 'usual business' if some sectors of the economy is shutdown due to another lockdown ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think we should go to full lockdown now. Kids summer holidays let's get it sorted

Children have already been locked up and denied their basic human right of access to education for the last four months. You want them to suffer even more?!? Jeesh!

No I don't but no school or loss of life

No school no brainer

I doubt there are hundreds of Foster parents ready waiting. Social services are always calling for more.

Chill out, your statement re family was further down the thread. I had a lot of catching up to do.

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By *heblackmac OP Man
over a year ago

Ladywell, Lewisham.

"I think we should go to full lockdown now. Kids summer holidays let's get it sorted

Children have already been locked up and denied their basic human right of access to education for the last four months. You want them to suffer even more?!? Jeesh!

No I don't but no school or loss of life

No school no brainer

I doubt there are hundreds of Foster parents ready waiting. Social services are always calling for more.

Chill out, your statement re family was further down the thread. I had a lot of catching up to do.

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By *rjimMan
over a year ago

nr bristol

Dead easy.

Stop all furlough and full salary payments now.

Teachers/ others who dont work dont get paid.

Stop mortgage holidays.

Then ask the same people what they want to do.....

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"I think we should go to full lockdown now. Kids summer holidays let's get it sorted

Children have already been locked up and denied their basic human right of access to education for the last four months. You want them to suffer even more?!? Jeesh!

No I don't but no school or loss of life

No school no brainer

Do you have children?

Do you have a partner?

Yes

Then you have no idea what it's like to be a single parent at home for the ladt 3 months, with another 6 weeks of summer holidays ahead, looking after 3 children, all under 10.

When you do, you might have a very different view.

What is it they say about walking in someone else's shoes?

By the way, no need to copy and paste your forum post into a PM. Reading it once was more than enough ta.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Dead easy.

Stop all furlough and full salary payments now.

Teachers/ others who dont work dont get paid.

Stop mortgage holidays.

Then ask the same people what they want to do.....

"
So you mean end all lockdown and social distancing. If only.

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By *arksxMan
over a year ago

Leicester / London

"Dead easy.

Stop all furlough and full salary payments now.

Teachers/ others who dont work dont get paid.

Stop mortgage holidays.

Then ask the same people what they want to do.....

Death by covid or death by economics...Hilarious

Go have a look at the news ourside outside the UK at 3 world counties where no one is laughing because its reality when they live on £1 a day.

We live in a wealthy nation...be grateful the furlough schen has afford many an option to see out covid safely in a way most of the rest of the world hasn't

Even in the USA the most help you got was a (delayed) cheque for £1000 and trumps signature on it

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge

I trust the people who have been following the lockdown rules to the letter have also brought their weight into the 'normal' bmi range and reversed their diabetes because that is a far better long-term strategy than hiding under the bed.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"I trust the people who have been following the lockdown rules to the letter have also brought their weight into the 'normal' bmi range and reversed their diabetes because that is a far better long-term strategy than hiding under the bed."

So everyone that followed the rules are overweight and has diabetes?

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge

So everyone that followed the rules are overweight and has diabetes? "

People of a healthy weight with no preexisting health conditions have little to fear from the virus.

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