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"I think it's sensible of pubs to delay opening at least until Monday. Some of the media are referring to Saturday as 'Super Saturday' not great. I messaged my localish pub regarding numbers in groups and was told up to 6 max but only from 2 households. So is it up to the pub to decide on that? " Yes 6 people in a group and 2 households is the maximum indoors From what iv read | |||
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" I messaged my localish pub regarding numbers in groups and was told up to 6 max but only from 2 households. So is it up to the pub to decide on that? " This is the rule for inside. Outside you can have six people from six different households. | |||
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"You can be sure the media will ramp it up for Saturday so they have some headlines for sunday. " So true the 'Super Saturday' moniker is just so irresponsible - and at the same time they will be reporting those being irresponsible. So duplicit. | |||
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" I messaged my localish pub regarding numbers in groups and was told up to 6 max but only from 2 households. So is it up to the pub to decide on that? This is the rule for inside. Outside you can have six people from six different households. " | |||
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" Customers can use toilets but they must be cleaned regularly with hand-washing facilities provided and social distancing adhered to. ------------------------- Surely all pub toilets had to provide hand washing facilities,before the covid19 restrictions " Yes but not many used them it seems | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? " My brother is asking to see all ID when entering his pubs no ID then no drink Simples | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? " Good point but You'd hope they'd check it against a driving license or pay with a credit card.. Wouldn't you? | |||
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"People will never adhere to the rules I'm sure we are all getting fed up to the back teeth of standing in ques,being told just one at a time , don't go here dont go there etc . It will start with all good intentions then soon turn to shit when people have had a few . " Then the bouncers will eject them with a swift kick in the balls and a thump in the back of the head on the way out heavy fines and Licences will be on the line and pubs will close if they don’t stick to the rules | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? Good point but You'd hope they'd check it against a driving license or pay with a credit card.. Wouldn't you? " They are | |||
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"You can be sure the media will ramp it up for Saturday so they have some headlines for sunday. So true the 'Super Saturday' moniker is just so irresponsible - and at the same time they will be reporting those being irresponsible. So duplicit." Yep without a doubt. | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? My brother is asking to see all ID when entering his pubs no ID then no drink Simples " he’ll end up going broke | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? " I was just thinking this, the venues aren't going to be checking your contact details to buy a pint are they? Understandably the restaurants will be taking a deposit over the phone to book a table, but pubs..I don't think so. Mind you, I had to give my contact details to visit an old church at the weekend! | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? My brother is asking to see all ID when entering his pubs no ID then no drink Simples he’ll end up going broke " He is fully booked at all four for Saturday so I think not | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? My brother is asking to see all ID when entering his pubs no ID then no drink Simples he’ll end up going broke He is fully booked at all four for Saturday so I think not " Same for me when I open no ID no drink no entry end of | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? Good point but You'd hope they'd check it against a driving license or pay with a credit card.. Wouldn't you? " No way any weatherspoons is doing this | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? My brother is asking to see all ID when entering his pubs no ID then no drink Simples he’ll end up going broke He is fully booked at all four for Saturday so I think not " Despite a few people trying to find holes and flaws... Its great to hear that there are quite a few folks who want to go and socialise and follow rules for everyone's safety. Give us an update Sunday! Hopefully it all goes well for him | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? My brother is asking to see all ID when entering his pubs no ID then no drink Simples he’ll end up going broke He is fully booked at all four for Saturday so I think not Same for me when I open no ID no drink no entry end of " Good man | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? Good point but You'd hope they'd check it against a driving license or pay with a credit card.. Wouldn't you? No way any weatherspoons is doing this" They can keep the pissheads and the dickheads Who would want them in there business anyway | |||
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"People will never adhere to the rules I'm sure we are all getting fed up to the back teeth of standing in ques,being told just one at a time , don't go here dont go there etc . It will start with all good intentions then soon turn to shit when people have had a few . Then the bouncers will eject them with a swift kick in the balls and a thump in the back of the head on the way out heavy fines and Licences will be on the line and pubs will close if they don’t stick to the rules " They don't stick to the rules in parks,supermarkets, beaches ,protest or anywhere else for that matter so what are the cahnces of people keeping to the rules in pubs? Responsibility will go out the window week or 2 after they open it will be pretty much buisness as usual don't kid yourself | |||
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"People will never adhere to the rules I'm sure we are all getting fed up to the back teeth of standing in ques,being told just one at a time , don't go here dont go there etc . It will start with all good intentions then soon turn to shit when people have had a few . Then the bouncers will eject them with a swift kick in the balls and a thump in the back of the head on the way out heavy fines and Licences will be on the line and pubs will close if they don’t stick to the rules They don't stick to the rules in parks,supermarkets, beaches ,protest or anywhere else for that matter so what are the cahnces of people keeping to the rules in pubs? Responsibility will go out the window week or 2 after they open it will be pretty much buisness as usual don't kid yourself " Then we will be all in the same boat as Leicester won’t we | |||
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"People will never adhere to the rules I'm sure we are all getting fed up to the back teeth of standing in ques,being told just one at a time , don't go here dont go there etc . It will start with all good intentions then soon turn to shit when people have had a few . Then the bouncers will eject them with a swift kick in the balls and a thump in the back of the head on the way out heavy fines and Licences will be on the line and pubs will close if they don’t stick to the rules They don't stick to the rules in parks,supermarkets, beaches ,protest or anywhere else for that matter so what are the cahnces of people keeping to the rules in pubs? Responsibility will go out the window week or 2 after they open it will be pretty much buisness as usual don't kid yourself Then we will be all in the same boat as Leicester won’t we " Do you not think we will anyway ? And if we are they can hardly blame pubs re opening can they ? | |||
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"I'm working Saturday, and literally can't be arsed with the hassle of it all for a pint in such a restrictive environment. I'll be cooking a curry, music on and having a pint at home thanks. I love my local but it won't be the same, I'm in no rush to get back." all well and good but if we don't support them they may end up a thing of the past | |||
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"People will never adhere to the rules I'm sure we are all getting fed up to the back teeth of standing in ques,being told just one at a time , don't go here dont go there etc . It will start with all good intentions then soon turn to shit when people have had a few . Then the bouncers will eject them with a swift kick in the balls and a thump in the back of the head on the way out heavy fines and Licences will be on the line and pubs will close if they don’t stick to the rules They don't stick to the rules in parks,supermarkets, beaches ,protest or anywhere else for that matter so what are the cahnces of people keeping to the rules in pubs? Responsibility will go out the window week or 2 after they open it will be pretty much buisness as usual don't kid yourself Then we will be all in the same boat as Leicester won’t we Do you not think we will anyway ? And if we are they can hardly blame pubs re opening can they ? " It will all help the virus spread will it not | |||
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"People will never adhere to the rules I'm sure we are all getting fed up to the back teeth of standing in ques,being told just one at a time , don't go here dont go there etc . It will start with all good intentions then soon turn to shit when people have had a few . Then the bouncers will eject them with a swift kick in the balls and a thump in the back of the head on the way out heavy fines and Licences will be on the line and pubs will close if they don’t stick to the rules They don't stick to the rules in parks,supermarkets, beaches ,protest or anywhere else for that matter so what are the cahnces of people keeping to the rules in pubs? Responsibility will go out the window week or 2 after they open it will be pretty much buisness as usual don't kid yourself Then we will be all in the same boat as Leicester won’t we Do you not think we will anyway ? And if we are they can hardly blame pubs re opening can they ? It will all help the virus spread will it not " of course but if people are going out celebrating football, gathering to scream black lives matter ,rioting and sitting shoulder to shoulder catching the sun on beach whats the point in keeping pubs shut and destroying businesses in the process ? To me i dont think it will make one bit of difference with the way people are behaving anyway . Government should have been stricter with lockdown from day one , to late now people have been laughing at any laws put in place so you think they will change cus the pubs are open? . Doubt it . | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? Good point but You'd hope they'd check it against a driving license or pay with a credit card.. Wouldn't you? No way any weatherspoons is doing this" wetherspoons near me u need to book a table download there app no cash just card payment and need to give them your name and address dont do any of this then no drink.old bill and council have aleady told them they will be visiting over the weekend | |||
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"I'm working Saturday, and literally can't be arsed with the hassle of it all for a pint in such a restrictive environment. I'll be cooking a curry, music on and having a pint at home thanks. I love my local but it won't be the same, I'm in no rush to get back. all well and good but if we don't support them they may end up a thing of the past " I stopped queuing to get in pubs back in the 90's. From the comments on Facebook my locals all booked up. It's a shame there wasn't a regulars night, having used the place 7 days a week I couldn't get in if i wanted to now | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? " looking around different venue websites they are saying No ID no entry or service. You can also find this on some Local Authority Websites. | |||
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"My two locals are only allowing pre-booked attendance. I've heard of others doing the same..... currently it may be the best way for them to manage things...." Yep it’s the best way to open gently ease the lockdown people will get used to the new way to have a pint with getting totally wankerd and loosing Yr mind or Yr life | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? Good point but You'd hope they'd check it against a driving license or pay with a credit card.. Wouldn't you? No way any weatherspoons is doing this wetherspoons near me u need to book a table download there app no cash just card payment and need to give them your name and address dont do any of this then no drink.old bill and council have aleady told them they will be visiting over the weekend" Can't see anything specific about ID on Wetherspoons site but they will all have door control - manage numbers - radios - and at least one member with a body-cam. | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? My brother is asking to see all ID when entering his pubs no ID then no drink Simples he’ll end up going broke He is fully booked at all four for Saturday so I think not Despite a few people trying to find holes and flaws... Its great to hear that there are quite a few folks who want to go and socialise and follow rules for everyone's safety. Give us an update Sunday! Hopefully it all goes well for him " I'm going out but I'll be following all guidelines and rules | |||
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"Nothing as changed. So why risk Going to a pub ,??? Go take a look at one of the many temporary morges scattered around the country. Again nothing has changed. Are we as a nation brain dead. My be we are. It's very sad" Your post is the exact opposite of your username | |||
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"Nothing as changed. So why risk Going to a pub ,??? Go take a look at one of the many temporary morges scattered around the country. Again nothing has changed. Are we as a nation brain dead. My be we are. It's very sad" Really? Nothing has changed? | |||
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"Nothing as changed. So why risk Going to a pub ,??? Go take a look at one of the many temporary morges scattered around the country. Again nothing has changed. Are we as a nation brain dead. My be we are. It's very sad" Nothing has changed since the virus arrived that is true Deaths are rising daily again over a thousand transmissions a day Yet we are opening the pub Unbelievable really | |||
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"Nothing as changed. So why risk Going to a pub ,??? Go take a look at one of the many temporary morges scattered around the country. Again nothing has changed. Are we as a nation brain dead. My be we are. It's very sad Nothing has changed since the virus arrived that is true Deaths are rising daily again over a thousand transmissions a day Yet we are opening the pub Unbelievable really " Stay indoors then | |||
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"Nothing as changed. So why risk Going to a pub ,??? Go take a look at one of the many temporary morges scattered around the country. Again nothing has changed. Are we as a nation brain dead. My be we are. It's very sad Nothing has changed since the virus arrived that is true Deaths are rising daily again over a thousand transmissions a day Yet we are opening the pub Unbelievable really " Are you serious? Nothing has changed since the virus arrived? | |||
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"They are now saying if pubs have to follow all the new rules then 500,000 jobs will be lost by end of August. People don't go to pubs to drink they go to socialise, take that away and pubs will just close. " You can still socialise, just from further away. | |||
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"Nothing as changed. So why risk Going to a pub ,??? Go take a look at one of the many temporary morges scattered around the country. Again nothing has changed. Are we as a nation brain dead. My be we are. It's very sad Nothing has changed since the virus arrived that is true Deaths are rising daily again over a thousand transmissions a day Yet we are opening the pub Unbelievable really " It really is quite shocking how people think they can return to some kind of normality. Think of the virus like a lion!!! The lion at the bottom of the tree is just dozing a bit, Boris decides you can come down that tree.....the lion hasn't gone away he's just waiting patiently for you to come close enough. Also another way to see it is the virus hasn't gone away they've just got enough beds for you know. | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? " why have we got to give our names and addresses? | |||
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"Nothing as changed. So why risk Going to a pub ,??? Go take a look at one of the many temporary morges scattered around the country. Again nothing has changed. Are we as a nation brain dead. My be we are. It's very sad Nothing has changed since the virus arrived that is true Deaths are rising daily again over a thousand transmissions a day Yet we are opening the pub Unbelievable really It really is quite shocking how people think they can return to some kind of normality. Think of the virus like a lion!!! The lion at the bottom of the tree is just dozing a bit, Boris decides you can come down that tree.....the lion hasn't gone away he's just waiting patiently for you to come close enough. Also another way to see it is the virus hasn't gone away they've just got enough beds for you know. " So what's the answer? | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? looking around different venue websites they are saying No ID no entry or service. You can also find this on some Local Authority Websites." What is classed as ID ? Does it have to be photo ID, if so I’m fucked. | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? why have we got to give our names and addresses? " For Trace and Track. | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? looking around different venue websites they are saying No ID no entry or service. You can also find this on some Local Authority Websites. What is classed as ID ? Does it have to be photo ID, if so I’m fucked. " The ones I saw said bills etc would do. | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? Good point but You'd hope they'd check it against a driving license or pay with a credit card.. Wouldn't you? No way any weatherspoons is doing this wetherspoons near me u need to book a table download there app no cash just card payment and need to give them your name and address dont do any of this then no drink.old bill and council have aleady told them they will be visiting over the weekend Can't see anything specific about ID on Wetherspoons site but they will all have door control - manage numbers - radios - and at least one member with a body-cam." may nit be in there website but poster in window of the one down high st has there rules on it.may be the council telling them to do this.but thats the rules at our one.only have 3 pybs opening the other four are stayin closed as. they cant set themselves up. and make it pay.these are free houses the ones that are opening are chain pubs | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? Good point but You'd hope they'd check it against a driving license or pay with a credit card.. Wouldn't you? No way any weatherspoons is doing this wetherspoons near me u need to book a table download there app no cash just card payment and need to give them your name and address dont do any of this then no drink.old bill and council have aleady told them they will be visiting over the weekend Can't see anything specific about ID on Wetherspoons site but they will all have door control - manage numbers - radios - and at least one member with a body-cam. may nit be in there website but poster in window of the one down high st has there rules on it.may be the council telling them to do this.but thats the rules at our one.only have 3 pybs opening the other four are stayin closed as. they cant set themselves up. and make it pay.these are free houses the ones that are opening are chain pubs" They have a mass of rules - just nothing specific about ID - where others do. | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? Good point but You'd hope they'd check it against a driving license or pay with a credit card.. Wouldn't you? No way any weatherspoons is doing this wetherspoons near me u need to book a table download there app no cash just card payment and need to give them your name and address dont do any of this then no drink.old bill and council have aleady told them they will be visiting over the weekend Can't see anything specific about ID on Wetherspoons site but they will all have door control - manage numbers - radios - and at least one member with a body-cam. may nit be in there website but poster in window of the one down high st has there rules on it.may be the council telling them to do this.but thats the rules at our one.only have 3 pybs opening the other four are stayin closed as. they cant set themselves up. and make it pay.these are free houses the ones that are opening are chain pubs They have a mass of rules - just nothing specific about ID - where others do." the woman who runs it is a nightmare at the best of times basically if you dont stick to the rules she wont be letting ya through the door | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? looking around different venue websites they are saying No ID no entry or service. You can also find this on some Local Authority Websites. What is classed as ID ? Does it have to be photo ID, if so I’m fucked. The ones I saw said bills etc would do." | |||
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"I'm working Saturday, and literally can't be arsed with the hassle of it all for a pint in such a restrictive environment. I'll be cooking a curry, music on and having a pint at home thanks. I love my local but it won't be the same, I'm in no rush to get back." Totally agree. | |||
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"I'm working Saturday, and literally can't be arsed with the hassle of it all for a pint in such a restrictive environment. I'll be cooking a curry, music on and having a pint at home thanks. I love my local but it won't be the same, I'm in no rush to get back." This looking forward to the sunday stories on Facebook etc that's for sure | |||
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"Nothing as changed. So why risk Going to a pub ,??? Go take a look at one of the many temporary morges scattered around the country. Again nothing has changed. Are we as a nation brain dead. My be we are. It's very sad Nothing has changed since the virus arrived that is true Deaths are rising daily again over a thousand transmissions a day Yet we are opening the pub Unbelievable really It really is quite shocking how people think they can return to some kind of normality. Think of the virus like a lion!!! The lion at the bottom of the tree is just dozing a bit, Boris decides you can come down that tree.....the lion hasn't gone away he's just waiting patiently for you to come close enough. Also another way to see it is the virus hasn't gone away they've just got enough beds for you know. So what's the answer?" There's no specific answer as such I think most people would agree that stuff needs to open but I think personally it should be done in a more measured way eg..small restaurant first maybe cafe then individual pubs in villages and then roll it out to keep an eye on it all...this open everything in one go especially on a Saturday definitely isn't the answer | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? Good point but You'd hope they'd check it against a driving license or pay with a credit card.. Wouldn't you? No way any weatherspoons is doing this wetherspoons near me u need to book a table download there app no cash just card payment and need to give them your name and address dont do any of this then no drink.old bill and council have aleady told them they will be visiting over the weekend" Weatherspoons have given a description of how they will open and they certainly are taking cash. Also coming from two girls who work at the local one. They have been sharing pictures of the screens and one way systems. You can't go and join friend on a table though. Once inside that's the table or you are out. | |||
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"I'm working Saturday, and literally can't be arsed with the hassle of it all for a pint in such a restrictive environment. I'll be cooking a curry, music on and having a pint at home thanks. I love my local but it won't be the same, I'm in no rush to get back. This looking forward to the sunday stories on Facebook etc that's for sure " I think I'll avoid FB for the whole of Sunday, I'm sick of seeing stuff about covidiots tbh. | |||
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"With customers providing contact details it will be easier for the Police to arrest the few lunatics that are bound to get wasted and cause crap for everyone else. Maybe this will put some of those people off. --------------------- Indoor and outdoor spaces can be used. Customers should provide contact details to the business and they should be seated at tables when indoors. People can go to these venues indoors as a household/bubble or with another household/bubble. Outdoors, people can meet in groups of up to 6 from as many household. Customers can use toilets but they must be cleaned regularly with hand-washing facilities provided and social distancing adhered to. ------------------------- Also talking to a few venues and friends - they say their local isn't opening for the whole weekend because they just don't want the bother - so they are leaving opening till the following week. " Just give false details, job done. | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? Good point but You'd hope they'd check it against a driving license or pay with a credit card.. Wouldn't you? No way any weatherspoons is doing this wetherspoons near me u need to book a table download there app no cash just card payment and need to give them your name and address dont do any of this then no drink.old bill and council have aleady told them they will be visiting over the weekend Weatherspoons have given a description of how they will open and they certainly are taking cash. Also coming from two girls who work at the local one. They have been sharing pictures of the screens and one way systems. You can't go and join friend on a table though. Once inside that's the table or you are out. " hey im just saying what i read on the poster they had in the windiw of the one in our town.its not accepting cash.only going by what i read | |||
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"Nothing as changed. So why risk Going to a pub ,??? Go take a look at one of the many temporary morges scattered around the country. Again nothing has changed. Are we as a nation brain dead. My be we are. It's very sad Nothing has changed since the virus arrived that is true Deaths are rising daily again over a thousand transmissions a day Yet we are opening the pub Unbelievable really Stay indoors then" I don’t drink so no problem to me I don’t need booze to enjoy what I like unlike a lot on here it seems | |||
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"Nothing as changed. So why risk Going to a pub ,??? Go take a look at one of the many temporary morges scattered around the country. Again nothing has changed. Are we as a nation brain dead. My be we are. It's very sad Nothing has changed since the virus arrived that is true Deaths are rising daily again over a thousand transmissions a day Yet we are opening the pub Unbelievable really Stay indoors then I don’t drink so no problem to me I don’t need booze to enjoy what I like unlike a lot on here it seems " Some people have had little to no social interaction during lockdown and they might just want to go for that reason. | |||
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"Nothing as changed. So why risk Going to a pub ,??? Go take a look at one of the many temporary morges scattered around the country. Again nothing has changed. Are we as a nation brain dead. My be we are. It's very sad Nothing has changed since the virus arrived that is true Deaths are rising daily again over a thousand transmissions a day Yet we are opening the pub Unbelievable really Stay indoors then I don’t drink so no problem to me I don’t need booze to enjoy what I like unlike a lot on here it seems Some people have had little to no social interaction during lockdown and they might just want to go for that reason. " And the other 95% want to just get-smashed out of there heads as it seems a British tradition these days | |||
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"With customers providing contact details it will be easier for the Police to arrest the few lunatics that are bound to get wasted and cause crap for everyone else. Maybe this will put some of those people off. --------------------- Indoor and outdoor spaces can be used. Customers should provide contact details to the business and they should be seated at tables when indoors. People can go to these venues indoors as a household/bubble or with another household/bubble. Outdoors, people can meet in groups of up to 6 from as many household. Customers can use toilets but they must be cleaned regularly with hand-washing facilities provided and social distancing adhered to. ------------------------- Also talking to a few venues and friends - they say their local isn't opening for the whole weekend because they just don't want the bother - so they are leaving opening till the following week. Just give false details, job done." There's so many things I'd like to say back to you but I'd probably get a ban. By even saying that comment you are pissing on the graves of the 44000+ dead and counting. You disgust me | |||
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"Very low background music, no live entertainment, quizzes and sport on TV. The joy of going for a pint has been stripped away. I would rather sit in my own garden and have a drink " | |||
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"The government can make all the rules they wish but the fact is younger people have had enough you cannot lock them away indefinitely to protect vulnerable I see it from both sides being in medical game myself the virus will be around for long time to come I am sure so you have to make a choice go out and take risk or stay in we have choices things will have to reopen rapidly or risk massive unemployment " Mass unemployment is inevitable, already seen thousands of job cuts in the uk. A second lockdown would finish off a lot of the hospitality trade. | |||
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"I'm working Saturday, and literally can't be arsed with the hassle of it all for a pint in such a restrictive environment. I'll be cooking a curry, music on and having a pint at home thanks. I love my local but it won't be the same, I'm in no rush to get back." all round to urs then lol | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? This a thousand times " No choice no ID no entry, those that don't comply can be shut down and have their license removed | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? This a thousand times No choice no ID no entry, those that don't comply can be shut down and have their license removed " The wee local down from me is doing exactly this. The owner only took over just before Christmas. Good lad, his concerns are that he could loose his licence. We have been lucky this end as we are quite rural. | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? Good point but You'd hope they'd check it against a driving license or pay with a credit card.. Wouldn't you? They are " so if you dont drive no pint then since passports dont have addresses on them? is this the start of making us think we should all have to carry id cards? | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? looking around different venue websites they are saying No ID no entry or service. You can also find this on some Local Authority Websites. What is classed as ID ? Does it have to be photo ID, if so I’m fucked. The ones I saw said bills etc would do." so you are early twenties live at home with mum and dad or in a uni halls so no bills in your name/ address... no pub for you? or even just one half of a married couple and all the bills in one persons name ... again no pub? if online bank statements are accepted (cause lets face it nobody gets them posted now) i can just ask my mates sister to send me a copy of hers so all of a sudden me and my mate look like one household to allow more of us to get together this kind of ID check just doesn’t work and they are going to find it very hard to enforce it long term once they clock on to all the loopholes. .. the only way to enforce this kind of thing would be if people had to have id cards just as general part of society which for the time being we dont | |||
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"People will never adhere to the rules I'm sure we are all getting fed up to the back teeth of standing in ques,being told just one at a time , don't go here dont go there etc . It will start with all good intentions then soon turn to shit when people have had a few . Then the bouncers will eject them with a swift kick in the balls and a thump in the back of the head on the way out heavy fines and Licences will be on the line and pubs will close if they don’t stick to the rules They don't stick to the rules in parks,supermarkets, beaches ,protest or anywhere else for that matter so what are the cahnces of people keeping to the rules in pubs? Responsibility will go out the window week or 2 after they open it will be pretty much buisness as usual don't kid yourself Then we will be all in the same boat as Leicester won’t we Do you not think we will anyway ? And if we are they can hardly blame pubs re opening can they ? It will all help the virus spread will it not of course but if people are going out celebrating football, gathering to scream black lives matter ,rioting and sitting shoulder to shoulder catching the sun on beach whats the point in keeping pubs shut and destroying businesses in the process ? To me i dont think it will make one bit of difference with the way people are behaving anyway . Government should have been stricter with lockdown from day one , to late now people have been laughing at any laws put in place so you think they will change cus the pubs are open? . Doubt it . " | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? Good point but You'd hope they'd check it against a driving license or pay with a credit card.. Wouldn't you? They are so if you dont drive no pint then since passports dont have addresses on them? is this the start of making us think we should all have to carry id cards? " Most are asking for a council tax bill. | |||
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"So now we will all need national ID cards nice little earner for the government I think il email this to Boris I’m sure they tried for this a few times now is a good time to make it law " I see nothing wrong with everyone having an ID card . | |||
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"You think the people who are likely to cause the trouble are going to give their real names and addresses? Good point but You'd hope they'd check it against a driving license or pay with a credit card.. Wouldn't you? They are so if you dont drive no pint then since passports dont have addresses on them? is this the start of making us think we should all have to carry id cards? Most are asking for a council tax bill. " do you have a copy of your council tax bill? i know i dont ... i manage all of that via online accounts | |||
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"i still don't get why you are responsible for track and trace yourself in terms of just remember who you sat beside on a picnic bench for the afternoon but it becomes the pubs responsibility if that picnic bench is moved into a beer garden (to the point you need paperwork to prove it) the governement either think you can manage it yourself or they need to put something in place for you to be properly tracked and if so that should be everywhere not just the pub (ie this terrible phone solution they cant seem to get right) piling on monitoring in some areas is useless if we having nothing at all for others you give all your details in that pub, then you walk out after your pint and visit the post office and supermarket and get a bus then the local corner shop on the way home ... how many untracked interactions do you have there " i just think its adding an administrative burden to the hospitality industry for something that shouldnt be their responsibility | |||
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"So now we will all need national ID cards nice little earner for the government I think il email this to Boris I’m sure they tried for this a few times now is a good time to make it law " No It's nothing to do with National ID cards. But any Authorised Officer can ask for ID on Demand anyway or Arrest you to the Police station if you refuse. You use ID in Banks when you use your card to pay at a supermarket/shop. You use ID to purchase online. To pay your bills. To obtain a phone contract. Your car is clocked by ANPR about 50 times a week. Your TV License. Your Netflix account. Your Passport for Holidays/Travel. Facial Recognition in this country is poorly regulated. List is endless really. | |||
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"i still don't get why you are responsible for track and trace yourself in terms of just remember who you sat beside on a picnic bench for the afternoon but it becomes the pubs responsibility if that picnic bench is moved into a beer garden (to the point you need paperwork to prove it) the governement either think you can manage it yourself or they need to put something in place for you to be properly tracked and if so that should be everywhere not just the pub (ie this terrible phone solution they cant seem to get right) piling on monitoring in some areas is useless if we having nothing at all for others you give all your details in that pub, then you walk out after your pint and visit the post office and supermarket and get a bus then the local corner shop on the way home ... how many untracked interactions do you have there i just think its adding an administrative burden to the hospitality industry for something that shouldnt be their responsibility " Hairdressers are taking details of customers too. | |||
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"i still don't get why you are responsible for track and trace yourself in terms of just remember who you sat beside on a picnic bench for the afternoon but it becomes the pubs responsibility if that picnic bench is moved into a beer garden (to the point you need paperwork to prove it) the governement either think you can manage it yourself or they need to put something in place for you to be properly tracked and if so that should be everywhere not just the pub (ie this terrible phone solution they cant seem to get right) piling on monitoring in some areas is useless if we having nothing at all for others you give all your details in that pub, then you walk out after your pint and visit the post office and supermarket and get a bus then the local corner shop on the way home ... how many untracked interactions do you have there " Yes but the point is you are not sat with them for an extended period. If you were sat next to someone that became poorly with Covid, wouldn't you want to know and tuck yourself away for a few days and hopefully not pass it on. | |||
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"I've just rang one of my local pubs up. No standing, including the beer garden. No verifiable ID, no drink. Sit at allocated tables, strictly no moving between tables. Pub gets too crowded, service will be stopped. Seems pretty concise and, to be honest, very off-putting. " It does sound off-putting yet perfectly logical. To be fair without opening at all this is best option . I'm sure the owners will welcome the income nonetheless. | |||
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"I've just rang one of my local pubs up. No standing, including the beer garden. No verifiable ID, no drink. Sit at allocated tables, strictly no moving between tables. Pub gets too crowded, service will be stopped. Seems pretty concise and, to be honest, very off-putting. " I think that sounds absolutely fine , sensible even . I hope all pubs follow these rules. | |||
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"I've just rang one of my local pubs up. No standing, including the beer garden. No verifiable ID, no drink. Sit at allocated tables, strictly no moving between tables. Pub gets too crowded, service will be stopped. Seems pretty concise and, to be honest, very off-putting. " I think those are perfectly reasonable rules, nobody is forcing you to go. I'd be happy to attend and follow those rules, to support what might be a struggling business. | |||
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"I've just rang one of my local pubs up. No standing, including the beer garden. No verifiable ID, no drink. Sit at allocated tables, strictly no moving between tables. Pub gets too crowded, service will be stopped. Seems pretty concise and, to be honest, very off-putting. I think those are perfectly reasonable rules, nobody is forcing you to go. I'd be happy to attend and follow those rules, to support what might be a struggling business. " it's a start, isn't it | |||
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"Sammy Smith's pubs are putting a £1.20 service charge on each drink...I think that will feck them up as thier clientele is mainly cheapskates " That's not really going to help them, is it. It will be interesting to see how it all pans out. I hope it works for them and everyone is sensible | |||
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"i still don't get why you are responsible for track and trace yourself in terms of just remember who you sat beside on a picnic bench for the afternoon but it becomes the pubs responsibility if that picnic bench is moved into a beer garden (to the point you need paperwork to prove it) the governement either think you can manage it yourself or they need to put something in place for you to be properly tracked and if so that should be everywhere not just the pub (ie this terrible phone solution they cant seem to get right) piling on monitoring in some areas is useless if we having nothing at all for others you give all your details in that pub, then you walk out after your pint and visit the post office and supermarket and get a bus then the local corner shop on the way home ... how many untracked interactions do you have there Yes but the point is you are not sat with them for an extended period. If you were sat next to someone that became poorly with Covid, wouldn't you want to know and tuck yourself away for a few days and hopefully not pass it on." if you know someone well enough to sit beside them in a pub or beer garden i would think they would let you know themselves if they got covid i could easily be sat on the bus as long as it would take to drink a few drinks (most places only allowing 90 min booking sessions as far as i am aware) im not saying i wouldn't want to know ... its just the haphazard way of tracking it (both through reliability if the ID expected to provide and the fact its only certain locations required to do it) that i disagree with ... we had months to come up with a proper plan for reopening and they haven't thought it through and stuck the burden on hospitality to deal with instead | |||
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" do you have a copy of your council tax bill? i know i dont ... i manage all of that via online accounts Can't you print off a copy ?" not without visiting an internet cafe (are those still a thing) or a library which are still closed tbh i dont need a bill as I dont have any plans for the pub ... its just an example of how inconsistent the rules seem to be with loopholes everywhere ... the guidance the pubs have been given is pretty poor | |||
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"The pubs and bars need to be careful with this ID malarkey, yes on super Saturday, they maybe turning folks away, however in a few weeks when folks realise how borin its going to be. they will be begging for your custom Just to be clear there is no actual ID law apart from giving your name and phone or email address and that's matt hankock Talkin not me. " Well if it’s not needed why are all the pubs making sure they have the ID of people who attend there bars if not required Every pub iv seen is saying no ID no beer as they know dickheads will try find a loophole as that’s what dickheads think is clever when really we all know it isn’t ya peoples fucking lives there playing with | |||
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"The pubs and bars need to be careful with this ID malarkey, yes on super Saturday, they maybe turning folks away, however in a few weeks when folks realise how borin its going to be. they will be begging for your custom Just to be clear there is no actual ID law apart from giving your name and phone or email address and that's matt hankock Talkin not me. Well if it’s not needed why are all the pubs making sure they have the ID of people who attend there bars if not required Every pub iv seen is saying no ID no beer as they know dickheads will try find a loophole as that’s what dickheads think is clever when really we all know it isn’t ya peoples fucking lives there playing with " As a manager I am establishment I can assure you now the guidance we have been given is NO ID NO ENTRY. You run the risk of loosing your license. Just read on hear that if a person sitting with you has covid you'd think they'd tell you. I'd like to think if that person has covid they'd not be out in the first place, don't forget the non symptomatic people who will spread it. | |||
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"The pubs and bars need to be careful with this ID malarkey, yes on super Saturday, they maybe turning folks away, however in a few weeks when folks realise how borin its going to be. they will be begging for your custom Just to be clear there is no actual ID law apart from giving your name and phone or email address and that's matt hankock Talkin not me. Well if it’s not needed why are all the pubs making sure they have the ID of people who attend there bars if not required Every pub iv seen is saying no ID no beer as they know dickheads will try find a loophole as that’s what dickheads think is clever when really we all know it isn’t ya peoples fucking lives there playing with As a manager I am establishment I can assure you now the guidance we have been given is NO ID NO ENTRY. You run the risk of loosing your license. Just read on hear that if a person sitting with you has covid you'd think they'd tell you. I'd like to think if that person has covid they'd not be out in the first place, don't forget the non symptomatic people who will spread it. " Thanks you hope it all goes well for you on Saturday ?????? | |||
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"Actually the test and trace guidence for bars has not been finalised yet due to data protection and legalisation matters,which basically means that's as far as it gets.that's why matt Hancock could only state name and a phone number/email on TV. any bars asking for more than this are doing so off their own backs and could be putting themselves in legal jepordy should someone have there identity stolen, origin which is traced back to said pub or bar. Believe it or not there is more to the situation than just covid. " Again as a manager of an establishment the GDPR compliance training takes 30 mins and 90% of it doesn't comply with what is actually needed. The GDPR or data protection act is there to protect personal details that could lead to fraud, a name, telephone number and an email which isn't necessary in this case is not likely to cause a fraud issue. (No bank details or addresses) Nothing needs to be finalised as there is nothing to finalise as long as training as been given to one individual that's all that is required | |||
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"The pubs and bars need to be careful with this ID malarkey, yes on super Saturday, they maybe turning folks away, however in a few weeks when folks realise how borin its going to be. they will be begging for your custom Just to be clear there is no actual ID law apart from giving your name and phone or email address and that's matt hankock Talkin not me. Well if it’s not needed why are all the pubs making sure they have the ID of people who attend there bars if not required Every pub iv seen is saying no ID no beer as they know dickheads will try find a loophole as that’s what dickheads think is clever when really we all know it isn’t ya peoples fucking lives there playing with As a manager I am establishment I can assure you now the guidance we have been given is NO ID NO ENTRY. You run the risk of loosing your license. Just read on hear that if a person sitting with you has covid you'd think they'd tell you. I'd like to think if that person has covid they'd not be out in the first place, don't forget the non symptomatic people who will spread it. Thanks you hope it all goes well for you on Saturday ??????" We've taken the decision not to open Saturday as there isn't enough help from police etc, we have had guidance from them in case of any trouble and our security have been told by the authorities that any actionable force taken will be seen as reasonable action to protect staff and others, police will be called and details of all will be given. Just hope people realise this you can not just turn up to any pub, restaurant etc and be expected to be served you have to pre book so if you turn up get refused don't be a dick because you've not listened to the rules, go home and wait your turn. Ta | |||
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"Thank you, you have just made my point, the only thing you can legally ask for is a name and phone or email. Which is NOT the same as throwing around incendiary statements such as "NO ID NO DRINK. Which will only lead to conflict situations, especially as the evening goes on The conflict will only come from dicks being dicks simple as that, you have to pre book your slot in the establishment, you are not allowed to just walk into any pub without prior permission. Not sure if you've read any previous message but the security at these places (obviously if they have it) have been given a green light to use force so if the covid doesn't get then in the pub then rest assured the bouncers will and then they will happily pack any morons of to catch covid at their nearest hospital. Also if it's pissing down and your slot at the pub etc is outside remember you ain't allowed inside... Basically tough shit. As I've previously said I'm going to run a promotion when I open. Buy one drink get one virus free and another lucky winner gets the free use of a ventilator at a hospital of your choice. terms and conditions apply, you must be over 18, telephone number and ID must be valid. All winnners will be selected within 5-14 days time. Good luck " You don't need to book at my local. | |||
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"With customers providing contact details it will be easier for the Police to arrest the few lunatics that are bound to get wasted and cause crap for everyone else. Maybe this will put some of those people off. I’m not opening mine ! Luckily got enough money in the bank to hang it out a bit longer to see how it goes. I’m only small --------------------- Indoor and outdoor spaces can be used. Customers should provide contact details to the business and they should be seated at tables when indoors. People can go to these venues indoors as a household/bubble or with another household/bubble. Outdoors, people can meet in groups of up to 6 from as many household. Customers can use toilets but they must be cleaned regularly with hand-washing facilities provided and social distancing adhered to. ------------------------- Also talking to a few venues and friends - they say their local isn't opening for the whole weekend because they just don't want the bother - so they are leaving opening till the following week. " | |||
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"Thank you, you have just made my point, the only thing you can legally ask for is a name and phone or email. Which is NOT the same as throwing around incendiary statements such as "NO ID NO DRINK. Which will only lead to conflict situations, especially as the evening goes on The conflict will only come from dicks being dicks simple as that, you have to pre book your slot in the establishment, you are not allowed to just walk into any pub without prior permission. Not sure if you've read any previous message but the security at these places (obviously if they have it) have been given a green light to use force so if the covid doesn't get then in the pub then rest assured the bouncers will and then they will happily pack any morons of to catch covid at their nearest hospital. Also if it's pissing down and your slot at the pub etc is outside remember you ain't allowed inside... Basically tough shit. As I've previously said I'm going to run a promotion when I open. Buy one drink get one virus free and another lucky winner gets the free use of a ventilator at a hospital of your choice. terms and conditions apply, you must be over 18, telephone number and ID must be valid. All winnners will be selected within 5-14 days time. Good luck You don't need to book at my local." I said prior permission, when you get there you will be greeted and if the numbers are too high you will be turned away, so if you're one of them who are going out on Saturday and definitely want to be in a enclosed environment with other pissheads coughing covid juice near you my suggestion would be ring and ask to be put on a list especially if you know the landlord or landlady | |||
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"Also for everyone going out and drinking or eating please note that a dishwasher has to be working efficiently and have a recorded temperature check taken daily and recorded in their daily due diligence, the reasoning behind this is that the dishwasher has effectively washed the items at a certain temperature (75c or above)for a certain time for it to effectively kill bacteria and potential viruses that maybe on it. Anyone want to guess what item brakes the most in pubs, restaurants and cafes ??? I’m wondering why you are bothering to open, given how much you seem to loathe your potential clientele. You have openly stated on a number of occasions that your bouncers would put people in hospital or bruise people. You talk about people spraying their “corona juice“ everywhere and then warn that your glasses and cutlery might not be clean. Just stay closed if it’s that much of an issue. I’m sure people can take their business elsewhere - somewhere they are actually welcome, for example." You really must read all the comments on the forum to make such a bold statement, my comments on security, bouncers at all establishments in England not just mine are facts they have all been given guidance an how to treat the guest and any trouble they can use the same force as the police do, if a small amount of people decide to get VIOLENT they will met with more than restraint like in normal times (police authority given) I did not say my bouncers would put people in hospital I was being sarcastic if the virus doesn't get you then bouncers will because of a small amount of people being dicks. Every person is a risk to you and your family FACT!!! So the idea of spraying covid juice is very real and in an enclosed environment with no face coverings is the same as being on public transport where it's law to wear such item. I also never said my glasses or cutlery might not be clean I was simply saying that dishwashers have to be working in good condition to be effective in all settings, I have worked for many places small and big and on many occasions I and my team have been ordered to hand wash items so the business doesn't have to close so if companies don't want to close even for one day in normal times what makes you think that a company would want to close and loose even more money after being shut for so long !? my guess would be they wouldn't, I however would close that's a guarantee for your safety. To keep my customers safe and my staff I have decided not open tomorrow and I will be having a staged opening, booking only, card payment only, I have even moved my WORKING dishwasher to a complete separate area with a brand new extraction system in place to keep my staff as safe as possible. Anyway if you go out stay safe !! | |||
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"Anyone who feels the need to be at the pub at 6am...think your at the wrong place? Try the AA meeting! How can we open pubs, but no gyms? Restrict pregnancy’s, by not allowing fathers to be present at birth? I doubt Covid is real and they should leave it, thin the hurd. We’re over populated and this is nature’s way of getting shot...ok well not quite nature’s, possibly China, Russia or US! But still bodies count a body count! " Ok | |||
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"Also for everyone going out and drinking or eating please note that a dishwasher has to be working efficiently and have a recorded temperature check taken daily and recorded in their daily due diligence, the reasoning behind this is that the dishwasher has effectively washed the items at a certain temperature (75c or above)for a certain time for it to effectively kill bacteria and potential viruses that maybe on it. Anyone want to guess what item brakes the most in pubs, restaurants and cafes ??? I’m wondering why you are bothering to open, given how much you seem to loathe your potential clientele. You have openly stated on a number of occasions that your bouncers would put people in hospital or bruise people. You talk about people spraying their “corona juice“ everywhere and then warn that your glasses and cutlery might not be clean. Just stay closed if it’s that much of an issue. I’m sure people can take their business elsewhere - somewhere they are actually welcome, for example. You really must read all the comments on the forum to make such a bold statement, my comments on security, bouncers at all establishments in England not just mine are facts they have all been given guidance an how to treat the guest and any trouble they can use the same force as the police do, if a small amount of people decide to get VIOLENT they will met with more than restraint like in normal times (police authority given) I did not say my bouncers would put people in hospital I was being sarcastic if the virus doesn't get you then bouncers will because of a small amount of people being dicks. Every person is a risk to you and your family FACT!!! So the idea of spraying covid juice is very real and in an enclosed environment with no face coverings is the same as being on public transport where it's law to wear such item. I also never said my glasses or cutlery might not be clean I was simply saying that dishwashers have to be working in good condition to be effective in all settings, I have worked for many places small and big and on many occasions I and my team have been ordered to hand wash items so the business doesn't have to close so if companies don't want to close even for one day in normal times what makes you think that a company would want to close and loose even more money after being shut for so long !? my guess would be they wouldn't, I however would close that's a guarantee for your safety. To keep my customers safe and my staff I have decided not open tomorrow and I will be having a staged opening, booking only, card payment only, I have even moved my WORKING dishwasher to a complete separate area with a brand new extraction system in place to keep my staff as safe as possible. Anyway if you go out stay safe !! " Hi and thank you for your reply. I must admit, I didnt pick up on you saying you were already staying closed... I was on Fabs as I couldnt sleep. Probably better to not enter into a debate with someone until brain is fully engaged! That said - I quote you: "my security team have been given like all places who have security a very clear stance any trouble they will be allowed to use whatever force they need to use without repercussions from authorities. I'm sure there will have few hurt egos and bodies after Saturday." and "Not sure if you've read any previous message but the security at these places (obviously if they have it) have been given a green light to use force so if the covid doesn't get then in the pub then rest assured the bouncers will and then they will happily pack any morons of to catch covid at their nearest hospital." While you did also make the joke about people ending up in hospital with Covid, you also quite clearly say "morons" will have their bodies hurt and that the bouncers will pack them off to hospital. Please dont try and tell me you werent implying it would be because of the use of force without repercussion. Because Im not buying it. Also, I realise how Covid is spread. However, last time I checked (which was last week, admittedly), Reading (where I live) only had one confirmed case and there was 0 patients on the Covid Ward at the RBH. So for me, personally, with a population of 230000, and only one confirmed case last week.... I really dont feel like every single person is a risk to me. You stating FACT in capital letters doesnt make it an actual FACT. Thank you for your well wishes - Im waiting to see how my favourite pubs are handling things before I go to them though. Dx | |||
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"Also for everyone going out and drinking or eating please note that a dishwasher has to be working efficiently and have a recorded temperature check taken daily and recorded in their daily due diligence, the reasoning behind this is that the dishwasher has effectively washed the items at a certain temperature (75c or above)for a certain time for it to effectively kill bacteria and potential viruses that maybe on it. Anyone want to guess what item brakes the most in pubs, restaurants and cafes ??? I’m wondering why you are bothering to open, given how much you seem to loathe your potential clientele. You have openly stated on a number of occasions that your bouncers would put people in hospital or bruise people. You talk about people spraying their “corona juice“ everywhere and then warn that your glasses and cutlery might not be clean. Just stay closed if it’s that much of an issue. I’m sure people can take their business elsewhere - somewhere they are actually welcome, for example. You really must read all the comments on the forum to make such a bold statement, my comments on security, bouncers at all establishments in England not just mine are facts they have all been given guidance an how to treat the guest and any trouble they can use the same force as the police do, if a small amount of people decide to get VIOLENT they will met with more than restraint like in normal times (police authority given) I did not say my bouncers would put people in hospital I was being sarcastic if the virus doesn't get you then bouncers will because of a small amount of people being dicks. Every person is a risk to you and your family FACT!!! So the idea of spraying covid juice is very real and in an enclosed environment with no face coverings is the same as being on public transport where it's law to wear such item. I also never said my glasses or cutlery might not be clean I was simply saying that dishwashers have to be working in good condition to be effective in all settings, I have worked for many places small and big and on many occasions I and my team have been ordered to hand wash items so the business doesn't have to close so if companies don't want to close even for one day in normal times what makes you think that a company would want to close and loose even more money after being shut for so long !? my guess would be they wouldn't, I however would close that's a guarantee for your safety. To keep my customers safe and my staff I have decided not open tomorrow and I will be having a staged opening, booking only, card payment only, I have even moved my WORKING dishwasher to a complete separate area with a brand new extraction system in place to keep my staff as safe as possible. Anyway if you go out stay safe !! Hi and thank you for your reply. I must admit, I didnt pick up on you saying you were already staying closed... I was on Fabs as I couldnt sleep. Probably better to not enter into a debate with someone until brain is fully engaged! That said - I quote you: "my security team have been given like all places who have security a very clear stance any trouble they will be allowed to use whatever force they need to use without repercussions from authorities. I'm sure there will have few hurt egos and bodies after Saturday." and "Not sure if you've read any previous message but the security at these places (obviously if they have it) have been given a green light to use force so if the covid doesn't get then in the pub then rest assured the bouncers will and then they will happily pack any morons of to catch covid at their nearest hospital." While you did also make the joke about people ending up in hospital with Covid, you also quite clearly say "morons" will have their bodies hurt and that the bouncers will pack them off to hospital. Please dont try and tell me you werent implying it would be because of the use of force without repercussion. Because Im not buying it. Also, I realise how Covid is spread. However, last time I checked (which was last week, admittedly), Reading (where I live) only had one confirmed case and there was 0 patients on the Covid Ward at the RBH. So for me, personally, with a population of 230000, and only one confirmed case last week.... I really dont feel like every single person is a risk to me. You stating FACT in capital letters doesnt make it an actual FACT. Thank you for your well wishes - Im waiting to see how my favourite pubs are handling things before I go to them though. Dx" You know what this has to be the best conversation I've probably had on these forums, so I thank you and I agree I wish I worked in your area as I would be opening tomorrow. Regards bouncers etc I've worked with some dodgy people and because they've been given authority I feel they will abuse it, I hope not but you know there's bound to be some who will push it and there's bound to be some guests who will push the envelope too again I hope not. Think because I've seen it first hand and had a relative pass because of it it's hitting me hard and I guess I kinda don't want anyone else to go through the pain etc that's why I'm being so fervent on it. Sorry if I've pissed you off not my intentions just a concerned citizen. However as I said stay safe and I hope we can all get through this together and someday see all each on the other side | |||
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"Also for everyone going out and drinking or eating please note that a dishwasher has to be working efficiently and have a recorded temperature check taken daily and recorded in their daily due diligence, the reasoning behind this is that the dishwasher has effectively washed the items at a certain temperature (75c or above)for a certain time for it to effectively kill bacteria and potential viruses that maybe on it. Anyone want to guess what item brakes the most in pubs, restaurants and cafes ??? I’m wondering why you are bothering to open, given how much you seem to loathe your potential clientele. You have openly stated on a number of occasions that your bouncers would put people in hospital or bruise people. You talk about people spraying their “corona juice“ everywhere and then warn that your glasses and cutlery might not be clean. Just stay closed if it’s that much of an issue. I’m sure people can take their business elsewhere - somewhere they are actually welcome, for example. You really must read all the comments on the forum to make such a bold statement, my comments on security, bouncers at all establishments in England not just mine are facts they have all been given guidance an how to treat the guest and any trouble they can use the same force as the police do, if a small amount of people decide to get VIOLENT they will met with more than restraint like in normal times (police authority given) I did not say my bouncers would put people in hospital I was being sarcastic if the virus doesn't get you then bouncers will because of a small amount of people being dicks. Every person is a risk to you and your family FACT!!! So the idea of spraying covid juice is very real and in an enclosed environment with no face coverings is the same as being on public transport where it's law to wear such item. I also never said my glasses or cutlery might not be clean I was simply saying that dishwashers have to be working in good condition to be effective in all settings, I have worked for many places small and big and on many occasions I and my team have been ordered to hand wash items so the business doesn't have to close so if companies don't want to close even for one day in normal times what makes you think that a company would want to close and loose even more money after being shut for so long !? my guess would be they wouldn't, I however would close that's a guarantee for your safety. To keep my customers safe and my staff I have decided not open tomorrow and I will be having a staged opening, booking only, card payment only, I have even moved my WORKING dishwasher to a complete separate area with a brand new extraction system in place to keep my staff as safe as possible. Anyway if you go out stay safe !! Hi and thank you for your reply. I must admit, I didnt pick up on you saying you were already staying closed... I was on Fabs as I couldnt sleep. Probably better to not enter into a debate with someone until brain is fully engaged! That said - I quote you: "my security team have been given like all places who have security a very clear stance any trouble they will be allowed to use whatever force they need to use without repercussions from authorities. I'm sure there will have few hurt egos and bodies after Saturday." and "Not sure if you've read any previous message but the security at these places (obviously if they have it) have been given a green light to use force so if the covid doesn't get then in the pub then rest assured the bouncers will and then they will happily pack any morons of to catch covid at their nearest hospital." While you did also make the joke about people ending up in hospital with Covid, you also quite clearly say "morons" will have their bodies hurt and that the bouncers will pack them off to hospital. Please dont try and tell me you werent implying it would be because of the use of force without repercussion. Because Im not buying it. Also, I realise how Covid is spread. However, last time I checked (which was last week, admittedly), Reading (where I live) only had one confirmed case and there was 0 patients on the Covid Ward at the RBH. So for me, personally, with a population of 230000, and only one confirmed case last week.... I really dont feel like every single person is a risk to me. You stating FACT in capital letters doesnt make it an actual FACT. Thank you for your well wishes - Im waiting to see how my favourite pubs are handling things before I go to them though. Dx You know what this has to be the best conversation I've probably had on these forums, so I thank you and I agree I wish I worked in your area as I would be opening tomorrow. Regards bouncers etc I've worked with some dodgy people and because they've been given authority I feel they will abuse it, I hope not but you know there's bound to be some who will push it and there's bound to be some guests who will push the envelope too again I hope not. Think because I've seen it first hand and had a relative pass because of it it's hitting me hard and I guess I kinda don't want anyone else to go through the pain etc that's why I'm being so fervent on it. Sorry if I've pissed you off not my intentions just a concerned citizen. However as I said stay safe and I hope we can all get through this together and someday see all each on the other side " It's fine that you're concerned, what isn't fine is the quite nasty comments you're making, you're assuming that no pub that's opening could possibly be as clean as yours and that everyone going out is going to have covid and take no measures to protect themselves and others. As someone who is going out, confident in my ability to act like a responsible person, the rude and disrespectful comments from people on these forums about the fact that I, and others, are choosing to try to get back to some semblance of normality are unnecessary. | |||
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"Also for everyone going out and drinking or eating please note that a dishwasher has to be working efficiently and have a recorded temperature check taken daily and recorded in their daily due diligence, the reasoning behind this is that the dishwasher has effectively washed the items at a certain temperature (75c or above)for a certain time for it to effectively kill bacteria and potential viruses that maybe on it. Anyone want to guess what item brakes the most in pubs, restaurants and cafes ??? I’m wondering why you are bothering to open, given how much you seem to loathe your potential clientele. You have openly stated on a number of occasions that your bouncers would put people in hospital or bruise people. You talk about people spraying their “corona juice“ everywhere and then warn that your glasses and cutlery might not be clean. Just stay closed if it’s that much of an issue. I’m sure people can take their business elsewhere - somewhere they are actually welcome, for example. You really must read all the comments on the forum to make such a bold statement, my comments on security, bouncers at all establishments in England not just mine are facts they have all been given guidance an how to treat the guest and any trouble they can use the same force as the police do, if a small amount of people decide to get VIOLENT they will met with more than restraint like in normal times (police authority given) I did not say my bouncers would put people in hospital I was being sarcastic if the virus doesn't get you then bouncers will because of a small amount of people being dicks. Every person is a risk to you and your family FACT!!! So the idea of spraying covid juice is very real and in an enclosed environment with no face coverings is the same as being on public transport where it's law to wear such item. I also never said my glasses or cutlery might not be clean I was simply saying that dishwashers have to be working in good condition to be effective in all settings, I have worked for many places small and big and on many occasions I and my team have been ordered to hand wash items so the business doesn't have to close so if companies don't want to close even for one day in normal times what makes you think that a company would want to close and loose even more money after being shut for so long !? my guess would be they wouldn't, I however would close that's a guarantee for your safety. To keep my customers safe and my staff I have decided not open tomorrow and I will be having a staged opening, booking only, card payment only, I have even moved my WORKING dishwasher to a complete separate area with a brand new extraction system in place to keep my staff as safe as possible. Anyway if you go out stay safe !! Hi and thank you for your reply. I must admit, I didnt pick up on you saying you were already staying closed... I was on Fabs as I couldnt sleep. Probably better to not enter into a debate with someone until brain is fully engaged! That said - I quote you: "my security team have been given like all places who have security a very clear stance any trouble they will be allowed to use whatever force they need to use without repercussions from authorities. I'm sure there will have few hurt egos and bodies after Saturday." and "Not sure if you've read any previous message but the security at these places (obviously if they have it) have been given a green light to use force so if the covid doesn't get then in the pub then rest assured the bouncers will and then they will happily pack any morons of to catch covid at their nearest hospital." While you did also make the joke about people ending up in hospital with Covid, you also quite clearly say "morons" will have their bodies hurt and that the bouncers will pack them off to hospital. Please dont try and tell me you werent implying it would be because of the use of force without repercussion. Because Im not buying it. Also, I realise how Covid is spread. However, last time I checked (which was last week, admittedly), Reading (where I live) only had one confirmed case and there was 0 patients on the Covid Ward at the RBH. So for me, personally, with a population of 230000, and only one confirmed case last week.... I really dont feel like every single person is a risk to me. You stating FACT in capital letters doesnt make it an actual FACT. Thank you for your well wishes - Im waiting to see how my favourite pubs are handling things before I go to them though. Dx You know what this has to be the best conversation I've probably had on these forums, so I thank you and I agree I wish I worked in your area as I would be opening tomorrow. Regards bouncers etc I've worked with some dodgy people and because they've been given authority I feel they will abuse it, I hope not but you know there's bound to be some who will push it and there's bound to be some guests who will push the envelope too again I hope not. Think because I've seen it first hand and had a relative pass because of it it's hitting me hard and I guess I kinda don't want anyone else to go through the pain etc that's why I'm being so fervent on it. Sorry if I've pissed you off not my intentions just a concerned citizen. However as I said stay safe and I hope we can all get through this together and someday see all each on the other side It's fine that you're concerned, what isn't fine is the quite nasty comments you're making, you're assuming that no pub that's opening could possibly be as clean as yours and that everyone going out is going to have covid and take no measures to protect themselves and others. As someone who is going out, confident in my ability to act like a responsible person, the rude and disrespectful comments from people on these forums about the fact that I, and others, are choosing to try to get back to some semblance of normality are unnecessary." Thank you.... I'm so sorry that my opinions are not the same as yours however please don't say I've been nasty not once have I said anything nasty, I may have used words like morons or dicks and if you're offended by that then so be it. I also haven't once said mine is better or cleaner than others I have simply said the highest failure rate in hospitality is the dishwasher and I was wondering how many would close or decide to hand wash which would not be effective. Again I'm not saying everyone has covid but you know what how do you know they haven't ? You don't. I also haven't said that people are irresponsible or won't take measures to protect themselves, but disrespectful comments .....gonna have to give you a no on that. I do agree that a sense of normality does need to return what I won't agree on is that some people on here disagree with others comments and accuse them of being rude,nasty or disrespectful. Every person's opinions are to be listened too, my opinion isn't right or wrong and neither is yours or anyone else's. What I will say is as I can see you're going to go out and I hope you have a great time and that you are safe in your experience. Cheers | |||
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"You have to book a table for a couple hours to just sit and chat, no moving form pub to pub. No one I know are going to bother, but because pubs can open the government grants stop. So pubs will go bust and millions on the dole, another fuck up. " Many will go under and it's such a shame, hospitality is very much a week by week business and with the severity of the restrictions in place a lot are going to go under, opening tomorrow or for example leaving it until October isn't go to save them particular ones because the margins are so small. I hope they don't. Some pubs and cold many many people and the max allowed is 30 how much booze etc will have to be spent to keep these places afloat. Beggars belief!! | |||
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"Also for everyone going out and drinking or eating please note that a dishwasher has to be working efficiently and have a recorded temperature check taken daily and recorded in their daily due diligence, the reasoning behind this is that the dishwasher has effectively washed the items at a certain temperature (75c or above)for a certain time for it to effectively kill bacteria and potential viruses that maybe on it. Anyone want to guess what item brakes the most in pubs, restaurants and cafes ??? I’m wondering why you are bothering to open, given how much you seem to loathe your potential clientele. You have openly stated on a number of occasions that your bouncers would put people in hospital or bruise people. You talk about people spraying their “corona juice“ everywhere and then warn that your glasses and cutlery might not be clean. Just stay closed if it’s that much of an issue. I’m sure people can take their business elsewhere - somewhere they are actually welcome, for example. You really must read all the comments on the forum to make such a bold statement, my comments on security, bouncers at all establishments in England not just mine are facts they have all been given guidance an how to treat the guest and any trouble they can use the same force as the police do, if a small amount of people decide to get VIOLENT they will met with more than restraint like in normal times (police authority given) I did not say my bouncers would put people in hospital I was being sarcastic if the virus doesn't get you then bouncers will because of a small amount of people being dicks. Every person is a risk to you and your family FACT!!! So the idea of spraying covid juice is very real and in an enclosed environment with no face coverings is the same as being on public transport where it's law to wear such item. I also never said my glasses or cutlery might not be clean I was simply saying that dishwashers have to be working in good condition to be effective in all settings, I have worked for many places small and big and on many occasions I and my team have been ordered to hand wash items so the business doesn't have to close so if companies don't want to close even for one day in normal times what makes you think that a company would want to close and loose even more money after being shut for so long !? my guess would be they wouldn't, I however would close that's a guarantee for your safety. To keep my customers safe and my staff I have decided not open tomorrow and I will be having a staged opening, booking only, card payment only, I have even moved my WORKING dishwasher to a complete separate area with a brand new extraction system in place to keep my staff as safe as possible. Anyway if you go out stay safe !! Hi and thank you for your reply. I must admit, I didnt pick up on you saying you were already staying closed... I was on Fabs as I couldnt sleep. Probably better to not enter into a debate with someone until brain is fully engaged! That said - I quote you: "my security team have been given like all places who have security a very clear stance any trouble they will be allowed to use whatever force they need to use without repercussions from authorities. I'm sure there will have few hurt egos and bodies after Saturday." and "Not sure if you've read any previous message but the security at these places (obviously if they have it) have been given a green light to use force so if the covid doesn't get then in the pub then rest assured the bouncers will and then they will happily pack any morons of to catch covid at their nearest hospital." While you did also make the joke about people ending up in hospital with Covid, you also quite clearly say "morons" will have their bodies hurt and that the bouncers will pack them off to hospital. Please dont try and tell me you werent implying it would be because of the use of force without repercussion. Because Im not buying it. Also, I realise how Covid is spread. However, last time I checked (which was last week, admittedly), Reading (where I live) only had one confirmed case and there was 0 patients on the Covid Ward at the RBH. So for me, personally, with a population of 230000, and only one confirmed case last week.... I really dont feel like every single person is a risk to me. You stating FACT in capital letters doesnt make it an actual FACT. Thank you for your well wishes - Im waiting to see how my favourite pubs are handling things before I go to them though. Dx You know what this has to be the best conversation I've probably had on these forums, so I thank you and I agree I wish I worked in your area as I would be opening tomorrow. Regards bouncers etc I've worked with some dodgy people and because they've been given authority I feel they will abuse it, I hope not but you know there's bound to be some who will push it and there's bound to be some guests who will push the envelope too again I hope not. Think because I've seen it first hand and had a relative pass because of it it's hitting me hard and I guess I kinda don't want anyone else to go through the pain etc that's why I'm being so fervent on it. Sorry if I've pissed you off not my intentions just a concerned citizen. However as I said stay safe and I hope we can all get through this together and someday see all each on the other side " I saw some shocking behaviour from bouncers in my club going youth... extreme violence towards skinny kids by groups of hired thugs... things have really been cleaned up since then- I just find the thought of bouncers being given the green light to behave as they see fit again quite scary. Particularly if they have been specifically told there will be no repercussions. Thank you for your considerate response to my initial message- I feel I may have overreacted in my OP to the messages you were posting on the forum. I think it was the inflammatory language you were using, but understanding where that comes from certainly puts things into perspective. I am sorry for the loss of your relative, and I too apologise for any offence caused. Dx | |||
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"You can be sure the media will ramp it up for Saturday so they have some headlines for sunday. Well we have let the media run the country since 23rd March so sure they will take the glory or pass the buck if it all goes wrong. " Mike drop | |||
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