FabSwingers.com forum: Ban Americans

By *arakiss12 OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

Will Europe ban Americans? They seem to be falling apart. Their infection rate is heading to apocolyptic proportions.

They've managed to make the whole world a more dangerous place right in the middle of a global crisis.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just a thought but perhaps we should consider our own performance in this regard before criticising any other country for theirs ?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's a difficult one as the EU has a border between Northern Ireland and Ireland that is open. If the Americans can get to the UK, they could walk into the EU.

I think the EU were looking at external countries where they exceeded infection thresholds - I'm not sure how far away the UK is from the US levels. I'm uncertain that it would happen

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands

Whilst the American case rate of 7567 per million of the population is higher than ours at 4537 they do seem to be making a better job of keeping people alive as their death rate of 383 per million of the population is way below ours at 637, which incidentally is the 2nd highest in the world.

Despite what Trump says about testing too many people their test rate of 92854 per million is way below ours which is currently 128317 per million.

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By *ev_1Couple
over a year ago

Bickliegh

After the dim wits on our beaches yesterday mmmmm let me think

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By *uttyjonnMan
over a year ago

SEA

Why are you suggesting America and not just saying any country currently in a worst state than the UK? People love bashing the USA

Why not India or brasil? They are in bad way and do you really believe the stats coming out of various countries?

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By *D835Man
over a year ago

London

"Why are you suggesting America and not just saying any country currently in a worst state than the UK? People love bashing the USA

Why not India or brasil? They are in bad way and do you really believe the stats coming out of various countries?"

The OP is not bashing America.

It is the European Union that is that is considering banning US travellers due the high rate of infection in that country.

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By *ancs_tgirl_38TV/TS
over a year ago

Blackpool

Coronavirus (COVID-19) deaths worldwide per one million population as of June 25, 2020, by country

(1st)Belgium

(2nd) UK: 43,081 Deaths

*647.94 deaths per million

(3rd) Spain

(4th) Italy

(5th) Sweden

(6th) France

(7th)USA: 121,817 Deaths

*372.34 Deaths per million

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By *uttyjonnMan
over a year ago

SEA

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By *uttyjonnMan
over a year ago

SEA

"Why are you suggesting America and not just saying any country currently in a worst state than the UK? People love bashing the USA

Why not India or brasil? They are in bad way and do you really believe the stats coming out of various countries?

The OP is not bashing America.

It is the European Union that is that is considering banning US travellers due the high rate of infection in that country. "

I apologise to the op, I am now questioning the EU's thinking then

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By *ilancsguyMan
over a year ago

Burnley

A key problem is the way countries are benchmarked...

Plus there is a huge problem in that are all countries reporting all their figures or are they manipulating the information to not look as bad.

As with all statical analysis if the raw data is wrong your stats will be wrong.

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By *edGrayCouple
over a year ago

Swindon

"After the dim wits on our beaches yesterday mmmmm let me think "

I agree about the dimwits who are going to the beech, those people having large gatherings like ravas. But it is to be expected, especially with young people. When I was young I believed I was immune to any health risk and also the desire to socialise and have fun was stronger than logical reasoning. Couple that with the mixed messages and confusion of coming out of lockdown from the government and the Dominic Cummings saga, no wonder people have had enough of being told what to do and thinking sod it.

Back to the Op's question, if we ban someone from a country, then we should ban all countries. France, Spain and Greece are already negotiating on 'Air Bridges' with the UK, so I find it hard to trust that the powers that be have our best interest at heart.

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By *ncemoreroundthesunCouple
over a year ago

on the move

Would prefer the time and effort went into some sort of ban of the morons in our own society.

This whole thing has really shown up the utter selfishness, arrogance and dangerous stupidity in our own country.

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By *oolandsexyCouple
over a year ago

kings lynn

The media quote figures in sensationalist way, ngl shocking presentation gets viewers or readers ! With all the data when comparing results of countries there are many factors to remember.

People per sq mile. In the U.K. this is way higher than most if not all eu countries.

Cultural greetings, the continental kiss

Age of population

Quality of healthcare

Social differences, in the us they have a greater emphasis on church going, as with job mobility between towns and states going to church aids a new friendship base when you move job.

I personally have no time to adjust figures but when you read the media claims pause and think why would there be a difference? Essentially don’t trust the headlines think a little use your own judgement.

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

"Would prefer the time and effort went into some sort of ban of the morons in our own society.

This whole thing has really shown up the utter selfishness, arrogance and dangerous stupidity in our own country."

Absobloodylutely. I despair. I don't think we need to worry about idiots from overseas as its plain to see we are already overrun with them here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On the plus side the from the USA infection rate they will soon have herd immunity and the outbreak will die off naturally.

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By *D835Man
over a year ago

London

"On the plus side the from the USA infection rate they will soon have herd immunity and the outbreak will die off naturally. "

That’s will depend on whether herd immunity actually works.

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

I've said this from the very start and I'll say it again because it's too true

Boris Johnson will not stop until UK is at the very top of that coviddeath toll list

All those people on the beeches,who's pics went all around the world btw,are only giving Boris the"bustling activity" that that cunt said he wanted on national TV only couple of days ago

Over 50,000 dead and counting boris

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why anyone would want to get in a rubber dinghy, cross the most dangerous shipping lane in the world to come and join the throng on Bournemouth beach is beyond me. I guess it could be a good opportunity to sell some sun glasses I suppose.

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

"On the plus side the from the USA infection rate they will soon have herd immunity and the outbreak will die off naturally. "

This must be UK plan too

So when will this herd immunity kick in?

50,000 dead and no sign of it

60,000?

100,000?

200,000?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes they will, but you can understand why and it will only get worse with all these protesters too.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Will Europe ban Americans? They seem to be falling apart. Their infection rate is heading to apocolyptic proportions.

They've managed to make the whole world a more dangerous place right in the middle of a global crisis.

America banned people from the EU and Great Britain travelling to the US in late March and that is still in place

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Despite what Trump says about testing too many people their test rate of 92854 per million is way below ours which is currently 128317 per million."

I think the point is, do we want to risk having even more infected people get ferried into the country?

There's going to be a boundary level of when people can safely enter without increasing the risk of infection within the existing population. The US is well above that right now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On the plus side the from the USA infection rate they will soon have herd immunity and the outbreak will die off naturally.

That’s will depend on whether herd immunity actually works. "

Apparently immunity only lasts up to two-three months. After that there is just as much of a chance to catch it again.

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By *D835Man
over a year ago

London

"On the plus side the from the USA infection rate they will soon have herd immunity and the outbreak will die off naturally.

That’s will depend on whether herd immunity actually works.

Apparently immunity only lasts up to two-three months. After that there is just as much of a chance to catch it again.

And added to that, some people who recover from it don’t produce any antibodies at all, so they don’t even get the two-three months immunity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Would prefer the time and effort went into some sort of ban of the morons in our own society.

This whole thing has really shown up the utter selfishness, arrogance and dangerous stupidity in our own country."

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

The world should ban Americans from entering,then maybe that would wake dozy Trump up.

I believe that our borders should be closed to a state of siege for six weeks.

Yes millions would lose there jobs and we would all struggle but when we return we could recover faster and stronger than any other nation.Sometimes it is the nasty medicine than does the most good.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Will Europe ban Americans? They seem to be falling apart. Their infection rate is heading to apocolyptic proportions.

They've managed to make the whole world a more dangerous place right in the middle of a global crisis.

America banned people from the EU and Great Britain travelling to the US in late March and that is still in place "

Except our Nige Farrage who got in. They can keep him too

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"Just a thought but perhaps we should consider our own performance in this regard before criticising any other country for theirs ? "

Yes, people are quick to point out the speck of sawdust in their neighbours eye whilst ignoring the tree trunk in their own...metaphoricaly speaking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Will Europe ban Americans? They seem to be falling apart. Their infection rate is heading to apocolyptic proportions.

They've managed to make the whole world a more dangerous place right in the middle of a global crisis.

America banned people from the EU and Great Britain travelling to the US in late March and that is still in place "

Maybe we should wait until the 4th of July to ban them....would love to read trumps tweets that day

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Will Europe ban Americans? They seem to be falling apart. Their infection rate is heading to apocolyptic proportions.

They've managed to make the whole world a more dangerous place right in the middle of a global crisis.

America banned people from the EU and Great Britain travelling to the US in late March and that is still in place

Maybe we should wait until the 4th of July to ban them....would love to read trumps tweets that day

make of this what you will....

britains largest travel agent, TUI, today announced that they are not booking holidays to US destinations right thru to November at the earliest....

so if people from this side of the pond can't travel to the states, why should it be the other way round especially when europe has done a good job of bringing it down, when it is still running rampant in the us?

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By *arakiss12 OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

I say ban them, yeh it's been a wild and wooly here recently but that's our own problem to deal.

Yes Brazil and India too. America especially. Their arrogance is on a par with some middle Eastern countries.

With all the other issues associated with the States I say ban them.

We can't go there. Then....ban them again...it's the only way to be sure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just a thought but perhaps we should consider our own performance in this regard before criticising any other country for theirs ? "

I think this is spot on, people on beaches and parks, football fans, god knows what will happen when pubs open

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Will Europe ban Americans? They seem to be falling apart. Their infection rate is heading to apocolyptic proportions.

They've managed to make the whole world a more dangerous place right in the middle of a global crisis.

America banned people from the EU and Great Britain travelling to the US in late March and that is still in place

Maybe we should wait until the 4th of July to ban them....would love to read trumps tweets that day

make of this what you will....

britains largest travel agent, TUI, today announced that they are not booking holidays to US destinations right thru to November at the earliest....

I agree with you we and the whole of Europe should put a ban on the us Brazil and India...I also think we should be banned from any countries that have managed to keep the infection rate down.

But you and I can think logically...but trump will take it as a personal attack on him. Hence we might as well wait until Independence Day to do it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just a thought but perhaps we should consider our own performance in this regard before criticising any other country for theirs ?

I think this is spot on, people on beaches and parks, football fans, god knows what will happen when pubs open"

I agree somewhat as this country has a population of around 67 million and half a million where on Bournemouth beaches....that is almost 1% of the population in the uk.

But I still think the government has not been clear enough in thier messages..ie the coming 1 metre rule....its all over the place and puts the onus on each individual. Now that can be hard to manage when the majority around you are acting like think cunts

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

im glad i live in a part of the country that seems to have a higher IQ

the beaches here have been busy here the last few days but everyone seems to be observing the rules and its nice to see the country getting going again.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"On the plus side the from the USA infection rate they will soon have herd immunity and the outbreak will die off naturally.

That’s will depend on whether herd immunity actually works.

Apparently immunity only lasts up to two-three months. After that there is just as much of a chance to catch it again.

At the moment we don't know how much, if any, immunity is gained, as well as how this disease could be for someone who catches it again. It can damage and destroy our vital organs and multiple brain damage caused could be worse than boxers getting lower level brain injury over a career. We have people getting strokes from it but the more invisible brain injury attacks could be another silent killer from it. We already know that men are more likely to die from covid19 and they are generally at greater risk for getting brain injuries and damage. Successive infections for men could be horrific.

An aside from the topic - banning the US visitors. We'll be affected by European actions.

The government is going to announce the new travel restrictions this week. It seems likely to remove some countries from the need for 14 days quarantine, adjusting the countries over time. Visitors could perhaps be forced into immediate isolation rather than giving into public and travelling etc, from very high risk countries as should have been done at the start, if not banned. We can't currently travel to some EU countries, despite free movement - there's no blanket freedom.

The UK is amongst the most affected countries and so fewer places are worse than us.

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

Are none of you thinking if the most powerful countries in the world are showing these sorts of numbers, whats happening in the third world?

Having spoken to a client who is based in Mumbai earlier this week, we are being kept totally in the dark as to the scale of the epidemic in their country.

It has been so bad in the one state that every member of staff in one hospital contracted the virus causing them to close the hospital completely.

And we think we have it bad!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

More MSM generated hysteria.

The 'spike' is due to better testing.

The US authorities are up to 500k tests per day.

Let's hope that other countries don't say ban the UK when BoJo announced a relaxation on foreign travel for UK citizens and the end of the 14 day quarantine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They will get herd immunity and be fine. We are just prolonging the limbo state and our lives are being wasted

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By *losguygl3Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

"On the plus side the from the USA infection rate they will soon have herd immunity and the outbreak will die off naturally. "

The scientific community dismissed the idea of herd immunity about two months ago. It doesn't work

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

"Are none of you thinking if the most powerful countries in the world are showing these sorts of numbers, whats happening in the third world?

Having spoken to a client who is based in Mumbai earlier this week, we are being kept totally in the dark as to the scale of the epidemic in their country.

It has been so bad in the one state that every member of staff in one hospital contracted the virus causing them to close the hospital completely.

And we think we have it bad!

I was thinking the same, I have biker mates who travelled around Africa and said the locals were so helpful and friendly. They’ve been trying to get info, so if needed would arrange some aid. But information isn’t easy to find, especially one village that looked after them after a little spill they had when travelling.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"More MSM generated hysteria.

The 'spike' is due to better testing.

The US authorities are up to 500k tests per day.

Let's hope that other countries don't say ban the UK when BoJo announced a relaxation on foreign travel for UK citizens and the end of the 14 day quarantine."

Tbh I wouldn't fancy Texans coming here as they have a 1 in 10 chance of having it.

And that's not from MSM...

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"More MSM generated hysteria.

The 'spike' is due to better testing.

The US authorities are up to 500k tests per day.

Let's hope that other countries don't say ban the UK when BoJo announced a relaxation on foreign travel for UK citizens and the end of the 14 day quarantine."

the EU guidemarks are based on figures per 10,000 people tested... so it takes into account that some countries test more than others.... the us is something like 2.5 times over the accepted figure!!

so it looks like the EU ban is coming in as of July 1st......

I wonder what Boris will do..... probably just bend over for trump as per!

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By *artyanna16200TV/TS
over a year ago

leeds

Yes and whats more , we follow the sites,we have an almost limitless capacity for ignoring the pandemic preparedness, model , in favour of wheeling out a completely unbriefed health secretary , who worked for a fuckin private equity firm, a health minister, who insists on public self humiliation, and an acute need for some hair conditioner, ,and a leader of the opposition who seems determined to suck every cock on the tory frontbench , except on fridays, when hes ass up for benjamin netanyahu! And a epidemiologist , who hasnt experienced reality since she dated timothy leary and manson, Like wow! . Still, it may be the only time when fucking in a park or field, is considerably safer than taking it webbed up in the living room

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

The next United Kingdom general election is scheduled to be held on Thursday 2 May 2024

Get Canvassing.

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By *D835Man
over a year ago

London

"More MSM generated hysteria.

The 'spike' is due to better testing.

The US authorities are up to 500k tests per day.

Let's hope that other countries don't say ban the UK when BoJo announced a relaxation on foreign travel for UK citizens and the end of the 14 day quarantine."

**”The 'spike' is due to better testing.”**

True that better testing can produce higher figures.

However, in the southern states in the US, the infection rate is increasing, and that’s not just because of extra testing.

The number of hospitalisations in Texas have not only increased, but have reached a record high.

This has caused Texas and Florida states to reimpose some lockdown restrictions which they had lifted earlier.

So things are getting worse, and that’s not because of the extra testing done.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

If one country has it then we all have it. If flights are on then the virus will travel.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

The US have a similar percentage of nutters to us, but they let theirs run around the streets with guns and take people demanding their constitutional right to share saliva with strangers seriously.

Empires have always historically crashed and burned and unless the US sort themselves out, I think they are on the verge of joining their predecessors...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ban chinese too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ban chinese too

It would have been helpful if we stopped the direct flights from wuhan to heathrow in early January...but pandora's box has been opened now...

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By *D835Man
over a year ago

London

"If one country has it then we all have it. If flights are on then the virus will travel. "

That's true, but that's also why some countries are considering banning travel from other countries with higher infection rates.

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

"The US have a similar percentage of nutters to us, but they let theirs run around the streets with guns and take people demanding their constitutional right to share saliva with strangers seriously.

Empires have always historically crashed and burned and unless the US sort themselves out, I think they are on the verge of joining their predecessors..."

We live in hope

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By *ral ExtraordinaireMan
over a year ago

Kent

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By *anniboy52Man
over a year ago

Watford

American view on immigration before covid We should have stopped Americans coming to Europe but now I just feel kind of sorry for them! The greatest nation on Earth..........but only if you are white and errrrrr rich male!! Let the rest come!

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen

" Their infection rate is heading to apocolyptic proportions.

How are you defining infection rate? A bit of residual Covid virus detected by a PCR test that the inventor specifically said should not be used for assessing infection is of no use (which is what is happening).

The narrative has of course changed from first scaring people with deaths, then cases and now infections.

The latter two are pointless because it is completely dependent on how many amplification cycles that the PCR test is run. As there is no standardisation no one is comparing the same thing. It is pointless.

Across similar demographics with similar weather/temperature patterns the Covid mortality figures are broadly similar. The overall infection fatality rate ends up being around 0.14 to 0.25% Mostly affecting the very elderly with co morbidities. Overall these figures are broadly similar to severe flu,

Obesity is a big factor in increasing deaths and Americans are one of the most overweight societies; so of course overall more of them will die.

Likewise here in the UK Joe Public is still shouting, "lock us up to keep us safe, wear a filthy mask you granny killer" whilst the concept of losing weight, getting fit and taking responsibility for their own health is no doubt met with a look of incredulity.

‘….in the first meta-analysis of its kind, published on 26 August in Obesity Reviews, an international team of researchers pooled data from scores of peer-reviewed papers capturing 399,000 patients. They found that people with obesity who contracted SARS-CoV-2 were 113% more likely than people of healthy weight to land in the hospital, 74% more likely to be admitted to an ICU, and 48% more likely to die.’

So instead of banning Americans it would probably have more effect banning junk food and mandating that everyone got their BMI to 25 or less. But guess what? That would require people to take drastic measures for their own health and that would never do.

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By *layfull pairingCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

Let’s ban the English !!! Oh wait, we already kinda have in a half arsed kinda way ....

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By *ral ExtraordinaireMan
over a year ago

Kent

#BringBackTrump

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"#BringBackTrump"

Stop it

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By *ral ExtraordinaireMan
over a year ago

Kent

"#BringBackTrump

Stop it

#Freespeach

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"#BringBackTrump

Stop it

#Freespeach "

speech*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Let’s ban the English !!! Oh wait, we already kinda have in a half arsed kinda way ....

We have

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"#BringBackTrump

Stop it

#Freespeach "

Freeze peach?

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By *ral ExtraordinaireMan
over a year ago

Kent

Freespeech

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes ban all Americans and the British from Europe.....

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By *ral ExtraordinaireMan
over a year ago

Kent

Bit racist ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bit racist ?"

Actions have consequences

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

"Yes ban all Americans and the British from Europe....."

You do realise that the UK is IN Europe so a bit difficult to ban us from somewhere we are already in

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

"Yes ban all Americans and the British from Europe.....

You do realise that the UK is IN Europe so a bit difficult to ban us from somewhere we are already in "

We could all go to France. Oh, hold on, I've not thought that through......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just a thought but perhaps we should consider our own performance in this regard before criticising any other country for theirs ? "

Bang on there luv

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

Anyone willing to vote for either Trump or Biden probably needs banning

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Scamdemic

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

"Scamdemic

What are you saying?

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

"Scamdemic

Why and how

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am all for a ban close all countries borders. Winner take all kind of thing.

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By *ral ExtraordinaireMan
over a year ago

Kent

"Bit racist ?

Actions have consequences "

Disgraceful

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By *ir-spunk-alotMan
over a year ago

Southern England

"Will Europe ban Americans? They seem to be falling apart. Their infection rate is heading to apocolyptic proportions.

They've managed to make the whole world a more dangerous place right in the middle of a global crisis.

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America are doing better than us.

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over a year ago

"Bit racist ?

Actions have consequences

Disgraceful"

yes you are

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