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By *urocougar OP   Couple
over a year ago

watton

2 new cases pop up in nz today took there by 2 British people what’s the betting we all get a travel ban from country’s all because of these 2 people travel without been tested before they left or if they were tested they thought fuck it I wanna go fly around the world as I’m a selfish twat

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By *ob Carpe DiemMan
over a year ago

Torquay


"2 new cases pop up in nz today took there by 2 British people what’s the betting we all get a travel ban from country’s all because of these 2 people travel without been tested before they left or if they were tested they thought fuck it I wanna go fly around the world as I’m a selfish twat "

Think they were allowed to travel to Wellington on compassionate grounds but they are no longer allowing that now.

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By *ikingpairCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

I must admit when I heard the headline I thought, great another black mark against the UK! But when you read about it they didn't test them after they had self-isolated for some strange reason and they had stopped off on the way so may not have brought it from here...

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights


"2 new cases pop up in nz today took there by 2 British people what’s the betting we all get a travel ban from country’s all because of these 2 people travel without been tested before they left or if they were tested they thought fuck it I wanna go fly around the world as I’m a selfish twat

Think they were allowed to travel to Wellington on compassionate grounds but they are no longer allowing that now."

Yes a parent was dying, they are allowing it after a covid-19 test first

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood


"2 new cases pop up in nz today took there by 2 British people what’s the betting we all get a travel ban from country’s all because of these 2 people travel without been tested before they left or if they were tested they thought fuck it I wanna go fly around the world as I’m a selfish twat "

selfish twats??? really? they wasnt on a jolly they had gone to bury a parent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"2 new cases pop up in nz today took there by 2 British people what’s the betting we all get a travel ban from country’s all because of these 2 people travel without been tested before they left or if they were tested they thought fuck it I wanna go fly around the world as I’m a selfish twat "

Please read the full story before slagging people off

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By *imes_berksMan
over a year ago

Bracknell

You saw the headlines and didn't read the story. They were given compassionate grounds to visit as a relative was dying and that person unfortunately died as they were on the way there. The two of them isolated with a relative and that relative is now isolating too. This minor spike should be contained.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not entirely sure you're being fair. They flew to be with a dying relative, which was permitted, and NZ government officials say both women complied with everything that was asked of them and did nothing wrong. They were released after 6 days quarantine without being tested, despite the fact that those being held in quarantine were supposed to be tested on the 3rd and 12th day

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By *ob Carpe DiemMan
over a year ago

Torquay


"I'm not entirely sure you're being fair. They flew to be with a dying relative, which was permitted, and NZ government officials say both women complied with everything that was asked of them and did nothing wrong. They were released after 6 days quarantine without being tested, despite the fact that those being held in quarantine were supposed to be tested on the 3rd and 12th day"

My concern here and I might be wrong is that they traveled separately, not sure if that means the flight. Either way it suggests that there is either much more asymptomatic desease in the UK or flying is out of the question at the moment.

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By *urocougar OP   Couple
over a year ago

watton


"I must admit when I heard the headline I thought, great another black mark against the UK! But when you read about it they didn't test them after they had self-isolated for some strange reason and they had stopped off on the way so may not have brought it from here..."

They did a Cummings then ? Ok for them

But not for him really some people are unbelievable in here

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

That's a bit harsh

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By *ntelligent Gent.Man
over a year ago

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Loving Jacinda. Helpful comment I know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I must admit when I heard the headline I thought, great another black mark against the UK! But when you read about it they didn't test them after they had self-isolated for some strange reason and they had stopped off on the way so may not have brought it from here...

They did a Cummings then ? Ok for them

But not for him really some people are unbelievable in here "

No they didn't. They complied with everything that was asked of them

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By *ob Carpe DiemMan
over a year ago

Torquay


"I must admit when I heard the headline I thought, great another black mark against the UK! But when you read about it they didn't test them after they had self-isolated for some strange reason and they had stopped off on the way so may not have brought it from here...

They did a Cummings then ? Ok for them

But not for him really some people are unbelievable in here

No they didn't. They complied with everything that was asked of them"

Which does ask questions in itself, if they caught it on the flight how many others did and if they had it before flying how many might now have it

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By *urocougar OP   Couple
over a year ago

watton


"I must admit when I heard the headline I thought, great another black mark against the UK! But when you read about it they didn't test them after they had self-isolated for some strange reason and they had stopped off on the way so may not have brought it from here...

They did a Cummings then ? Ok for them

But not for him really some people are unbelievable in here

No they didn't. They complied with everything that was asked of them"

They drove from Auckland to Wellington

Which is an 8 hour drive where did they stop to piss then ?

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

A lot of very nasty people on here having read a lot of the above

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I must admit when I heard the headline I thought, great another black mark against the UK! But when you read about it they didn't test them after they had self-isolated for some strange reason and they had stopped off on the way so may not have brought it from here...

They did a Cummings then ? Ok for them

But not for him really some people are unbelievable in here

No they didn't. They complied with everything that was asked of them

They drove from Auckland to Wellington

Which is an 8 hour drive where did they stop to piss then ?"

I'm sure if you read beyond the headlines all your questions will be answered. If you still think they're selfish that's fine, I doubt anything anyone says here will convince you otherwise.

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By *inky SpiceWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow


"A lot of very nasty people on here having read a lot of the above"

There's actually only one person being uneccesarily harsh.

I think the fault lies with the authorities as they were released from quarantine early due to the imminent death of their parent. I would hope due to the fact that they knew they hadn't completed their quarantine period that they avoided contact with other people on their travels, especially as one of them didn't feel well apparently, but it's a very long way from Aulkland to Wellington, 650kms I think, and involves a ferry journey too and you aren't usually allowed to stay in your vehicle on a ferry. Anyway it's blown it for anyone else who needs a compassionate exemption. I see Australia has extended their border closure now, I wonder if this incident in NZ had any bearing on that decision.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood


"A lot of very nasty people on here having read a lot of the above"

why nasty people?just pointing out to the o.p that they should read more than the headline.nothing nasty about that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A lot of very nasty people on here having read a lot of the above

why nasty people?just pointing out to the o.p that they should read more than the headline.nothing nasty about that"

Some love a headline ...they read no further and dramatise what is in effect a very sad outcome.

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By *ntelligent Gent.Man
over a year ago

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NZ make headlines over 2 cases

Beijing in shutdown over a couple of 100 cases

Were on 4000 a day and opening up. You know when you just don't get something?

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By *ob Carpe DiemMan
over a year ago

Torquay


"A lot of very nasty people on here having read a lot of the above

There's actually only one person being uneccesarily harsh.

I think the fault lies with the authorities as they were released from quarantine early due to the imminent death of their parent. I would hope due to the fact that they knew they hadn't completed their quarantine period that they avoided contact with other people on their travels, especially as one of them didn't feel well apparently, but it's a very long way from Aulkland to Wellington, 650kms I think, and involves a ferry journey too and you aren't usually allowed to stay in your vehicle on a ferry. Anyway it's blown it for anyone else who needs a compassionate exemption. I see Australia has extended their border closure now, I wonder if this incident in NZ had any bearing on that decision."

No ferry journey needed from Auckland to Wellington I believe

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Countries are still reviewing immigration rules and it's tougher for UK citizens to enter many of them, compared to neighbouring places. The NZ matter is a tragedy for all concerned and I hope doesn't result in major issues for them.

I think that we may face hard restrictions for some time but mainly due to our infection levels, not the NZ issue.

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By *urocougar OP   Couple
over a year ago

watton


"A lot of very nasty people on here having read a lot of the above

There's actually only one person being uneccesarily harsh.

I think the fault lies with the authorities as they were released from quarantine early due to the imminent death of their parent. I would hope due to the fact that they knew they hadn't completed their quarantine period that they avoided contact with other people on their travels, especially as one of them didn't feel well apparently, but it's a very long way from Aulkland to Wellington, 650kms I think, and involves a ferry journey too and you aren't usually allowed to stay in your vehicle on a ferry. Anyway it's blown it for anyone else who needs a compassionate exemption. I see Australia has extended their border closure now, I wonder if this incident in NZ had any bearing on that decision."

I’m sure it did as they had a connecting flight in Brisbane

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"A lot of very nasty people on here having read a lot of the above"

The irony..

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands


"NZ make headlines over 2 cases

Beijing in shutdown over a couple of 100 cases

Were on 4000 a day and opening up. You know when you just don't get something? "

We are not on 4000 cases a day and opening up.

Yesterdays new cases was 1279, the last time we exceeded 4000 cases was 27th May when the total was 4043.

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By *ntelligent Gent.Man
over a year ago

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Those are in the community figures you are quoting. Excludes care homes and hospitals.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

Two cases and they call in the military that is why they are succeeding in defeating it being tough.We are to soft in this country.To get the freedom we crave we must make sacrifices now but the stupid British will not do that.I am surrounded by a lot of idiots

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would we have discovered a effective treatment if we had all followed the NZ path. It's all what ifs, whys and wherefores. New Zealand got lucky and dodged a Bullet for now. They will now have to isolate themselves from the rest of the world even more now and hope for a cure or vaccine. Talk about walking on egg shells.

Glad I dont live there. Must be hell on earth LOL. Not really. Love Kiwis, My big sis is adopted one but she realises their policy is not without it's downside risks..

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk


"I'm not entirely sure you're being fair. They flew to be with a dying relative, which was permitted, and NZ government officials say both women complied with everything that was asked of them and did nothing wrong. They were released after 6 days quarantine without being tested, despite the fact that those being held in quarantine were supposed to be tested on the 3rd and 12th day

My concern here and I might be wrong is that they traveled separately, not sure if that means the flight. Either way it suggests that there is either much more asymptomatic desease in the UK or flying is out of the question at the moment."

Yep totally with you on that one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What makes them so special to get compassionate leave. What about the rest of the world who've had loved ones die and couldn't go to be by there bedside or to their funeral. Like the woman here in Ireland who watched her mothers funeral on youtube or the mother who watched her down syndrome son on WhatsApp from a nurses phone as he died alone and scared and could understand why his devoted mother couldn't be with him.

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By *ob Carpe DiemMan
over a year ago

Torquay


"What makes them so special to get compassionate leave. What about the rest of the world who've had loved ones die and couldn't go to be by there bedside or to their funeral. Like the woman here in Ireland who watched her mothers funeral on youtube or the mother who watched her down syndrome son on WhatsApp from a nurses phone as he died alone and scared and could understand why his devoted mother couldn't be with him. "

They weren't special it was the NZ rules at the time and they followed them completely, those rules are now temporarily suspended until they ensure that testing happens before allowing it

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By *exleyboyMan
over a year ago

Erith

I have been talking to an old friend who lives in New Zealand and the truth is Yes it haa been traced back to 2 UK passport holders who left the UK in October last year on a years round the world trip. They arrived from another country which has not been disclosed. But it was a direct flight from that country.

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By *-4pleasureCouple
over a year ago

Belfast


"What makes them so special to get compassionate leave. What about the rest of the world who've had loved ones die and couldn't go to be by there bedside or to their funeral. Like the woman here in Ireland who watched her mothers funeral on youtube or the mother who watched her down syndrome son on WhatsApp from a nurses phone as he died alone and scared and could understand why his devoted mother couldn't be with him. "

I don’t get this.

You’re telling me that a parent would watch on a mobile phone their child die scared and alone, wanting their mummy or daddy?

I’m a parent.

No fucking way would I allow this to happen and I doubt very much that the vast majority of parents would either.

Not buying it sorry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What makes them so special to get compassionate leave. What about the rest of the world who've had loved ones die and couldn't go to be by there bedside or to their funeral. Like the woman here in Ireland who watched her mothers funeral on youtube or the mother who watched her down syndrome son on WhatsApp from a nurses phone as he died alone and scared and could understand why his devoted mother couldn't be with him.

I don’t get this.

You’re telling me that a parent would watch on a mobile phone their child die scared and alone, wanting their mummy or daddy?

I’m a parent.

No fucking way would I allow this to happen and I doubt very much that the vast majority of parents would either.

Not buying it sorry."

It was on RTE news a couple of months ago. He was an adult. He had coronavirus and she was in a vulnerable category so it wasn't allowed.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"What makes them so special to get compassionate leave. What about the rest of the world who've had loved ones die and couldn't go to be by there bedside or to their funeral. Like the woman here in Ireland who watched her mothers funeral on youtube or the mother who watched her down syndrome son on WhatsApp from a nurses phone as he died alone and scared and could understand why his devoted mother couldn't be with him.

I don’t get this.

You’re telling me that a parent would watch on a mobile phone their child die scared and alone, wanting their mummy or daddy?

I’m a parent.

No fucking way would I allow this to happen and I doubt very much that the vast majority of parents would either.

Not buying it sorry.

It was on RTE news a couple of months ago. He was an adult. He had coronavirus and she was in a vulnerable category so it wasn't allowed. "
,

That is so sad...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What makes them so special to get compassionate leave. What about the rest of the world who've had loved ones die and couldn't go to be by there bedside or to their funeral. Like the woman here in Ireland who watched her mothers funeral on youtube or the mother who watched her down syndrome son on WhatsApp from a nurses phone as he died alone and scared and could understand why his devoted mother couldn't be with him.

I don’t get this.

You’re telling me that a parent would watch on a mobile phone their child die scared and alone, wanting their mummy or daddy?

I’m a parent.

No fucking way would I allow this to happen and I doubt very much that the vast majority of parents would either.

Not buying it sorry."

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0423/1134433-mother-remembers-son-who-lost-life-to-covid-19/

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have been talking to an old friend who lives in New Zealand and the truth is Yes it haa been traced back to 2 UK passport holders who left the UK in October last year on a years round the world trip. They arrived from another country which has not been disclosed. But it was a direct flight from that country."

Oh crikey... if that is true..!

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By *urocougar OP   Couple
over a year ago

watton


"I have been talking to an old friend who lives in New Zealand and the truth is Yes it haa been traced back to 2 UK passport holders who left the UK in October last year on a years round the world trip. They arrived from another country which has not been disclosed. But it was a direct flight from that country.

Oh crikey... if that is true..!"

No direct flight they came from Brisbane after they left the uk and flew through the Middle East

Yr so called mate in NZ is full of it I’d say

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-asia-53059633

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What makes them so special to get compassionate leave. What about the rest of the world who've had loved ones die and couldn't go to be by there bedside or to their funeral. Like the woman here in Ireland who watched her mothers funeral on youtube or the mother who watched her down syndrome son on WhatsApp from a nurses phone as he died alone and scared and could understand why his devoted mother couldn't be with him.

I don’t get this.

You’re telling me that a parent would watch on a mobile phone their child die scared and alone, wanting their mummy or daddy?

I’m a parent.

No fucking way would I allow this to happen and I doubt very much that the vast majority of parents would either.

Not buying it sorry."

you can not buy it all you like but it factually happened

i know people personally who were not allowed to attend the funeral of grandparents because of lockdown restrictions

the OP was right, these people were selfish in that they have spread the disease to a country that had eradicated it, for something that many other people have not even been allowed to do in their own country ... they knew they had travelled through multiple airports, they knew they hadn’t completed quarantine, they knew they hadn't been tested ... shouldn’t really matter if they were allowed out, any sense of moral obligation would have told them it wasn’t right to do so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anybody would think they have committed a Heinous crime. It beggars believe how hostile some people on here have become to simple acts of compassion. I just hope there are plenty of pedestals for all you puritanicals on here that never make mistakes. However if you put yourself on a pedestal there is always someone wanting to knock you off it when you do something wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I must admit when I heard the headline I thought, great another black mark against the UK! But when you read about it they didn't test them after they had self-isolated for some strange reason and they had stopped off on the way so may not have brought it from here..."

Can't believe some one would use a racist comment like that. In 2020 we are still using words like "black mark"

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By *atelotmanMan
over a year ago

Chatham


"A lot of very nasty people on here having read a lot of the above

There's actually only one person being uneccesarily harsh.

I think the fault lies with the authorities as they were released from quarantine early due to the imminent death of their parent. I would hope due to the fact that they knew they hadn't completed their quarantine period that they avoided contact with other people on their travels, especially as one of them didn't feel well apparently, but it's a very long way from Aulkland to Wellington, 650kms I think, and involves a ferry journey too and you aren't usually allowed to stay in your vehicle on a ferry. Anyway it's blown it for anyone else who needs a compassionate exemption. I see Australia has extended their border closure now, I wonder if this incident in NZ had any bearing on that decision.

No ferry journey needed from Auckland to Wellington I believe"

You are correct on that point both Auckland an Wellington are on the North island.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I must admit when I heard the headline I thought, great another black mark against the UK! But when you read about it they didn't test them after they had self-isolated for some strange reason and they had stopped off on the way so may not have brought it from here...

Can't believe some one would use a racist comment like that. In 2020 we are still using words like "black mark""

is that racist? i just assumed it described a hypothetical list where people would get a mark against their name for something negative

much like i would read “red penned” and think it mean someone had annoted with errors/ changes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I must admit when I heard the headline I thought, great another black mark against the UK! But when you read about it they didn't test them after they had self-isolated for some strange reason and they had stopped off on the way so may not have brought it from here...

Can't believe some one would use a racist comment like that. In 2020 we are still using words like "black mark"

is that racist? i just assumed it described a hypothetical list where people would get a mark against their name for something negative

much like i would read “red penned” and think it mean someone had annoted with errors/ changes "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I must admit when I heard the headline I thought, great another black mark against the UK! But when you read about it they didn't test them after they had self-isolated for some strange reason and they had stopped off on the way so may not have brought it from here...

Can't believe some one would use a racist comment like that. In 2020 we are still using words like "black mark""

Please tell me this is tongue in cheek!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


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They didn't bite they were enquiring like I was.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I must admit when I heard the headline I thought, great another black mark against the UK! But when you read about it they didn't test them after they had self-isolated for some strange reason and they had stopped off on the way so may not have brought it from here...

Can't believe some one would use a racist comment like that. In 2020 we are still using words like "black mark""

Oh dear

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By *avdunsMan
over a year ago

edinburgh

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By *avdunsMan
over a year ago

edinburgh


"I must admit when I heard the headline I thought, great another black mark against the UK! But when you read about it they didn't test them after they had self-isolated for some strange reason and they had stopped off on the way so may not have brought it from here...

Can't believe some one would use a racist comment like that. In 2020 we are still using words like "black mark""

Why is that term racist, explain please. I am dying to hear this one !!

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By *oderndayloversCouple
over a year ago

London

Unfortunately the OP is a prime example of another pandemic sweeping the world. Reads a sensationalised headline and makes up their mind on it, without reading the article or indeed researching it further. Bit like not reading a book because you don't like the colour of the cover. Can only hope you are never faced with a dilemma such as the two in question faced

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By *arentsgonebadCouple
over a year ago

sheffield

Or they were tested and negative lol... Jesus wouldn't wanna be in your court room !


"2 new cases pop up in nz today took there by 2 British people what’s the betting we all get a travel ban from country’s all because of these 2 people travel without been tested before they left or if they were tested they thought fuck it I wanna go fly around the world as I’m a selfish twat "

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By *arentsgonebadCouple
over a year ago

sheffield

If "black mark " is rasicst then I want "white paper " bannished under the same pretence !!

Jesus this world has gone mad lol

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"If "black mark " is rasicst then I want "white paper " bannished under the same pretence !!

Jesus this world has gone mad lol "

It hasn't, it's one poster trying to be "funny". He removed the post, I saw it, where he stated he wanted people to bite at that comment.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

This rubs me up the wrong way, so many have died in this country. No family could see them to say goodbye, or attend a funeral.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have been talking to an old friend who lives in New Zealand and the truth is Yes it haa been traced back to 2 UK passport holders who left the UK in October last year on a years round the world trip. They arrived from another country which has not been disclosed. But it was a direct flight from that country."

Ah so JUST WHERE HAD THESE 2 PEOPLE COME FROM !

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland


"I must admit when I heard the headline I thought, great another black mark against the UK! But when you read about it they didn't test them after they had self-isolated for some strange reason and they had stopped off on the way so may not have brought it from here...

They did a Cummings then ? Ok for them

But not for him really some people are unbelievable in here "
Cummins was a serial offender and was regularly spotted swanning around even though he knew he had the virus a huge differene here between the cases

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By *urocougar OP   Couple
over a year ago

watton


"I have been talking to an old friend who lives in New Zealand and the truth is Yes it haa been traced back to 2 UK passport holders who left the UK in October last year on a years round the world trip. They arrived from another country which has not been disclosed. But it was a direct flight from that country.

Ah so JUST WHERE HAD THESE 2 PEOPLE COME FROM !

"

They flew from uk thro middle

East to brisbane then Auckland

3 flights 3 airports then travelled the length of the north island by car and met people on the way

Worse than a 200 mile trip to Durham in 1 car in my view but then these were probably Labour Party supporters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have been talking to an old friend who lives in New Zealand and the truth is Yes it haa been traced back to 2 UK passport holders who left the UK in October last year on a years round the world trip. They arrived from another country which has not been disclosed. But it was a direct flight from that country.

Ah so JUST WHERE HAD THESE 2 PEOPLE COME FROM !

They flew from uk thro middle

East to brisbane then Auckland

3 flights 3 airports then travelled the length of the north island by car and met people on the way

Worse than a 200 mile trip to Durham in 1 car in my view but then these were probably Labour Party supporters

"

Two questions

1 how on earth is this story lolitical

2 how on earth can you compare someone who knowingly breaks the restrictions to two women who reportedly followed official advice?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have been talking to an old friend who lives in New Zealand and the truth is Yes it haa been traced back to 2 UK passport holders who left the UK in October last year on a years round the world trip. They arrived from another country which has not been disclosed. But it was a direct flight from that country.

Ah so JUST WHERE HAD THESE 2 PEOPLE COME FROM !

They flew from uk thro middle

East to brisbane then Auckland

3 flights 3 airports then travelled the length of the north island by car and met people on the way

Worse than a 200 mile trip to Durham in 1 car in my view but then these were probably Labour Party supporters

Two questions

1 how on earth is this story lolitical

2 how on earth can you compare someone who knowingly breaks the restrictions to two women who reportedly followed official advice? "

Another question, why the fuck doesn't my phone correct obvious typos *political* but "corrects" others that it has no need to?

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