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"Bungling BoJo has just NO to overnight stays!!! Yet in April when he left hospital he moved his girl friend in with him. The term does double standards come to mind!! So he has opened up the term doing a Boris&Carrie " Yawn | |||
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"Says the PM. Let the sexcapade commence " That's not really what was said | |||
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"Bungling BoJo has just NO to overnight stays!!! Yet in April when he left hospital he moved his girl friend in with him. The term does double standards come to mind!! So he has opened up the term doing a Boris&Carrie Yawn" Are you tired? | |||
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"Bungling BoJo has just NO to overnight stays!!! Yet in April when he left hospital he moved his girl friend in with him. The term does double standards come to mind!! So he has opened up the term doing a Boris&Carrie " Did he ? I missed that bit, On Sky news twtter feed it says Members of a bubble can stay overnight at each others home | |||
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"Bungling BoJo has just NO to overnight stays!!! Yet in April when he left hospital he moved his girl friend in with him. The term does double standards come to mind!! So he has opened up the term doing a Boris&Carrie Yawn Are you tired? " Just at some people's craic on here | |||
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"I am bewildered at how BJ’s statement is being so inaccurately interpreted!" You and me both! I thought it was perfectly clear | |||
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"Bungling BoJo has just NO to overnight stays!!! Yet in April when he left hospital he moved his girl friend in with him. The term does double standards come to mind!! So he has opened up the term doing a Boris&Carrie " not true they were kept apart for 7 days after his realese one in number 11 and one stay in number 10 | |||
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"I missed the briefing. Can somebody tell me what he *actually* said?" What he actually said, was to ease the loneliness for single people only! They would be allowed to join another household, be it another lone person or a single other family. You can stay overnight at each others homes, as long as all other rules are adhered to, therefore if one or other became unwell, then all would have to self isolate. Hope that is clear enough? | |||
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"its basically a green light for many as long as sensible and with a regular " Not quite!!! | |||
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"I missed the briefing. Can somebody tell me what he *actually* said? What he actually said, was to ease the loneliness for single people only! They would be allowed to join another household, be it another lone person or a single other family. You can stay overnight at each others homes, as long as all other rules are adhered to, therefore if one or other became unwell, then all would have to self isolate. Hope that is clear enough? " | |||
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"allthoe i would love a meet with a lady in a bubble, it wasnt ment like that at all, and i think selfish people will see it as a green light for swinging, and its not. " Exactly. | |||
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"I am bewildered at how BJ’s statement is being so inaccurately interpreted!" It’s a trend now! | |||
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"I missed the briefing. Can somebody tell me what he *actually* said? What he actually said, was to ease the loneliness for single people only! They would be allowed to join another household, be it another lone person or a single other family. You can stay overnight at each others homes, as long as all other rules are adhered to, therefore if one or other became unwell, then all would have to self isolate. Hope that is clear enough? " It's amazing how for some it won't be clear but there you go | |||
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"I thought it was single person can meet parents or grandparent can meet with parent with child below 18 and to keep the social bubble to one other household. So if goin meet same person fine but not for swingers to go screw different people every day. Or am I wrong I thought it was clear. Although as I’ve said before and had abuse msgs sent some ppl are already meeting strangers and posting pics and status updates about it when others are sticking to rules to keep us and family safe" You can only meet one parent / grandparent not both if they live together | |||
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"It’s not that simple and examples are : The government gave examples for how the new support bubbles might work for single adults in England: ¦ A grandparent who lives alone would be able to form a bubble with one of their children, which means they could go to see them and interact with their grandchildren as normal ¦ A single parent could form a bubble with a parent or friend so they can interact as normal ¦ Two single people who both live on their own could form a bubble ¦ And a couple who do not live together could form a bubble, but only if they both live alone No 10 also said that if a person lives alone but their partner has a flatmate, for example, then they can form a bubble but the flatmate cannot then form their own with another household. If anyone within a bubble develops coronavirus symptoms, everyone within the bubble must self-isolate for 14 days. Who can't create a support bubble? Mr Johnson said the new rule is "not designed for people who don't qualify to start meeting inside because that remains against the law". One part of the bubble has to be a single household, or be a single parent to children under 18. It does not apply to grandparents who live together, people living in houses of multiple occupancy, such as flat shares, or to couples who already live together. Those who are shielding cannot be advised to form a bubble, the PM said. He added: "However, I want to say I know how hard it is for those of you who are shielding and we will say more next week about the arrangements that will be in place for you beyond the end of June."" You couldn't have been any clearer! | |||
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"A bubble for a person who is on their own to meet up with another household is not the same as having sex with strangers" Well said It makes me sad that people only hear what they want to hear and sod people actually sticking by the rules to try and get rid of this pandemic. | |||
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"That's because the daily mirror is saying boris lifts sex ban for some!!! Of course nobody will have a clue with a message like that surely!! Its not people who are so confused of thick.. it's the media ???? " I don't get why everyone blames the media, surely they could get the information from the horses mouth, ie Gov website | |||
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"That's because the daily mirror is saying boris lifts sex ban for some!!! Of course nobody will have a clue with a message like that surely!! Its not people who are so confused of thick.. it's the media ???? " Who reads the daily mirror... and actually believes it?? | |||
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"A bubble for a person who is on their own to meet up with another household is not the same as having sex with strangers Well said It makes me sad that people only hear what they want to hear and sod people actually sticking by the rules to try and get rid of this pandemic. " I agree. I am just wary now that all the good that has been done is going to be undone. | |||
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"Says the PM. Let the sexcapade commence " Not till Saturday and only if you are on your own meeting family or your other half. So not meeting everybody and anybody | |||
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"It’s not that simple and examples are : The government gave examples for how the new support bubbles might work for single adults in England: ¦ A grandparent who lives alone would be able to form a bubble with one of their children, which means they could go to see them and interact with their grandchildren as normal ¦ A single parent could form a bubble with a parent or friend so they can interact as normal ¦ Two single people who both live on their own could form a bubble ¦ And a couple who do not live together could form a bubble, but only if they both live alone No 10 also said that if a person lives alone but their partner has a flatmate, for example, then they can form a bubble but the flatmate cannot then form their own with another household. If anyone within a bubble develops coronavirus symptoms, everyone within the bubble must self-isolate for 14 days. Who can't create a support bubble? Mr Johnson said the new rule is "not designed for people who don't qualify to start meeting inside because that remains against the law". One part of the bubble has to be a single household, or be a single parent to children under 18. It does not apply to grandparents who live together, people living in houses of multiple occupancy, such as flat shares, or to couples who already live together. Those who are shielding cannot be advised to form a bubble, the PM said. He added: "However, I want to say I know how hard it is for those of you who are shielding and we will say more next week about the arrangements that will be in place for you beyond the end of June." You couldn't have been any clearer! " If I can’t visit both my parents I sure as hell not going to be meeting anyone else | |||
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"That's because the daily mirror is saying boris lifts sex ban for some!!! Of course nobody will have a clue with a message like that surely!! Its not people who are so confused of thick.. it's the media ???? Who reads the daily mirror... and actually believes it??" | |||
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"its sad , that some people still only think about there self . and will twist anyting as long as they can do what they want. " | |||
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"That's because the daily mirror is saying boris lifts sex ban for some!!! Of course nobody will have a clue with a message like that surely!! Its not people who are so confused of thick.. it's the media ???? Who reads the daily mirror... and actually believes it??" Well I dont read it.. but it appeared on my social media news feed so I'm guessing I'm not alone.. it's forced onto you without being a fan of the publication or not surely!! When they are saying that, then some people seriously will see a big loophole and green light regardless of boris's statement surely | |||
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"That's because the daily mirror is saying boris lifts sex ban for some!!! Of course nobody will have a clue with a message like that surely!! Its not people who are so confused of thick.. it's the media ???? Who reads the daily mirror... and actually believes it?? Well I dont read it.. but it appeared on my social media news feed so I'm guessing I'm not alone.. it's forced onto you without being a fan of the publication or not surely!! When they are saying that, then some people seriously will see a big loophole and green light regardless of boris's statement surely " It's hasn't appeared on any of my news feeds, so no idea what you are looking at! | |||
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"its basically a green light for many as long as sensible and with a regular Not quite!!! " i agree but thats how it will be seen .. nothing changes for me | |||
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"Says the PM. Let the sexcapade commence " That's not what he said at all! | |||
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"From Saturday, households in England with a single adult will be able to ‘bubble up’ with one other household of any size. Anyone in the bubble will be allowed ‘act as if they live in the same household.’ It means they can visit and spend the night at each other's houses - spending time together indoors without having to observe social distancing. People be allowed to hug, kiss, share meals or even have sex in each other's homes for the first time since March 23. " that’s it bang on just a shame I don’t have sexy lady to be in my bubble | |||
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"That's because the daily mirror is saying boris lifts sex ban for some!!! Of course nobody will have a clue with a message like that surely!! Its not people who are so confused of thick.. it's the media ???? Who reads the daily mirror... and actually believes it?? Well I dont read it.. but it appeared on my social media news feed so I'm guessing I'm not alone.. it's forced onto you without being a fan of the publication or not surely!! When they are saying that, then some people seriously will see a big loophole and green light regardless of boris's statement surely It's hasn't appeared on any of my news feeds, so no idea what you are looking at! " Trust me it's out there https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/coronavirus-pandemic-live-updates-uk-22154643.amp | |||
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"Bloody hell, so many people purposely twisting what was said to suit their own agenda. This relaxing of rules is for people who live alone or is a single parent with only their children living with them. It isn't for couples who want a break or want a new sex partner, it isn't for people to just start shagging a regular partner but also going to see family and friends. It's for a single person to reach out to ONE household as a support network. It's really not rocket science. " I’m a single dad of one girl I have half the week and rest of week I’m alone . I don’t get hardly any visitors as my family don’t live that close of have to work. I’d love to have someone I could invite round | |||
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"If I can’t visit both my parents I sure as hell not going to be meeting anyone else " So long as you live alone or a single parent with children under 18 and your mum and dad live together in the same house you could form a bubble. Nobody else would be allowed to join the bubble though such as another sibling or single friend who lives on their own elsewhere. | |||
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"Bloody hell, so many people purposely twisting what was said to suit their own agenda. This relaxing of rules is for people who live alone or is a single parent with only their children living with them. It isn't for couples who want a break or want a new sex partner, it isn't for people to just start shagging a regular partner but also going to see family and friends. It's for a single person to reach out to ONE household as a support network. It's really not rocket science. " I am surprised at how thick people are willing to make themselves look, just to change things to how that want to interpret them! Me, I'd rather keep my moral high ground thank you, and my intelligence levels high | |||
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"The bubble rule does not specify, parents or children, it can be anyone, I'm sure there are some lonely folks with no parents or children, folks should stop trying to guilt folks. " This | |||
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"The bubble rule does not specify, parents or children, it can be anyone, I'm sure there are some lonely folks with no parents or children, folks should stop trying to guilt folks. This " Think the thing is called a support bubble not a sex bubble | |||
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"Bloody hell, so many people purposely twisting what was said to suit their own agenda. This relaxing of rules is for people who live alone or is a single parent with only their children living with them. It isn't for couples who want a break or want a new sex partner, it isn't for people to just start shagging a regular partner but also going to see family and friends. It's for a single person to reach out to ONE household as a support network. It's really not rocket science. I am surprised at how thick people are willing to make themselves look, just to change things to how that want to interpret them! Me, I'd rather keep my moral high ground thank you, and my intelligence levels high " | |||
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"If I can’t visit both my parents I sure as hell not going to be meeting anyone else So long as you live alone or a single parent with children under 18 and your mum and dad live together in the same house you could form a bubble. Nobody else would be allowed to join the bubble though such as another sibling or single friend who lives on their own elsewhere. " - A grandparent who lives alone would be able to form a bubble with one of their children, which means they could go to see them and interact with their grandchildren as normal - The bubble does not apply to grandparents who live together, people living in houses of multiple occupancy, such as flat shares, or to couples who already live together. The examples are given above and as both my parents are not local and require public transport to get to them, each live with other partners (one shielding) so not single households we cannot form that bubble - even if the single person household rule wasn’t there, could you choose between your parents who can see their grandchild ? | |||
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"I am bewildered at how BJ’s statement is being so inaccurately interpreted!" It is an interesting interpretation to be sure, but then people have always heard what they want to hear, not what is actually said. | |||
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"A single person can visit one household only. Surely someone who has been alone for this long would prefer to go and spend time with family in their household, not be thinking they can enter random peoples homes for sex. This is definitely not what the pm said. This whole pandemic has made me question people’s intelligence. " I don't know if they are taking the piss or genuinely just incredibly stupid! | |||
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"This is great news so we can now meet several different people for casual sex in each other's house just can't stay over night." Who told you this? Karen off Facebook? | |||
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"This is great news so we can now meet several different people for casual sex in each other's house just can't stay over night. Who told you this? Karen off Facebook? " Karen of Facebook lol | |||
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"A bubble for a person who is on their own to meet up with another household is not the same as having sex with strangers" ?? Isn't it? | |||
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"no matter how you look at the message delivered today by the briefing it can be and will be twisted to how ever anyone wants to use it and in a away they are all right as the message is open to all ... no point in name calling to those who see it as a green light to meet ..theres only one idiot here and thats the government for not being totally clear..." It is totally clear. It's been repeated several times and it very clearly who this applies to, single people living alone or single parents living with children under the age of 18, those people are allowed to choose ONE other household to be in a bubble with. | |||
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"no matter how you look at the message delivered today by the briefing it can be and will be twisted to how ever anyone wants to use it and in a away they are all right as the message is open to all ... no point in name calling to those who see it as a green light to meet ..theres only one idiot here and thats the government for not being totally clear..." Well, it was abundantly clear to me, no matter, how others try to bend it! They are not 'all right as it can be interpreted by all as they wish', why do people keep try and lie and bend things to things to their own agendas? That is just utter shite! | |||
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"no matter how you look at the message delivered today by the briefing it can be and will be twisted to how ever anyone wants to use it and in a away they are all right as the message is open to all ... no point in name calling to those who see it as a green light to meet ..theres only one idiot here and thats the government for not being totally clear... It is totally clear. It's been repeated several times and it very clearly who this applies to, single people living alone or single parents living with children under the age of 18, those people are allowed to choose ONE other household to be in a bubble with. " | |||
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"no matter how you look at the message delivered today by the briefing it can be and will be twisted to how ever anyone wants to use it and in a away they are all right as the message is open to all ... no point in name calling to those who see it as a green light to meet ..theres only one idiot here and thats the government for not being totally clear... It is totally clear. It's been repeated several times and it very clearly who this applies to, single people living alone or single parents living with children under the age of 18, those people are allowed to choose ONE other household to be in a bubble with. " So my single friend with benefits can come stay in my house. Nowhere does it say we can't play whilst he's here. | |||
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"no matter how you look at the message delivered today by the briefing it can be and will be twisted to how ever anyone wants to use it and in a away they are all right as the message is open to all ... no point in name calling to those who see it as a green light to meet ..theres only one idiot here and thats the government for not being totally clear... It is totally clear. It's been repeated several times and it very clearly who this applies to, single people living alone or single parents living with children under the age of 18, those people are allowed to choose ONE other household to be in a bubble with. So my single friend with benefits can come stay in my house. Nowhere does it say we can't play whilst he's here." Do either you or he live alone? | |||
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"It’s not that simple and examples are : The government gave examples for how the new support bubbles might work for single adults in England: ¦ A grandparent who lives alone would be able to form a bubble with one of their children, which means they could go to see them and interact with their grandchildren as normal ¦ A single parent could form a bubble with a parent or friend so they can interact as normal ¦ Two single people who both live on their own could form a bubble ¦ And a couple who do not live together could form a bubble, but only if they both live alone No 10 also said that if a person lives alone but their partner has a flatmate, for example, then they can form a bubble but the flatmate cannot then form their own with another household. If anyone within a bubble develops coronavirus symptoms, everyone within the bubble must self-isolate for 14 days. Who can't create a support bubble? Mr Johnson said the new rule is "not designed for people who don't qualify to start meeting inside because that remains against the law". One part of the bubble has to be a single household, or be a single parent to children under 18. It does not apply to grandparents who live together, people living in houses of multiple occupancy, such as flat shares, or to couples who already live together. Those who are shielding cannot be advised to form a bubble, the PM said. He added: "However, I want to say I know how hard it is for those of you who are shielding and we will say more next week about the arrangements that will be in place for you beyond the end of June."" This is clear Thank you x | |||
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"no matter how you look at the message delivered today by the briefing it can be and will be twisted to how ever anyone wants to use it and in a away they are all right as the message is open to all ... no point in name calling to those who see it as a green light to meet ..theres only one idiot here and thats the government for not being totally clear... It is totally clear. It's been repeated several times and it very clearly who this applies to, single people living alone or single parents living with children under the age of 18, those people are allowed to choose ONE other household to be in a bubble with. So my single friend with benefits can come stay in my house. Nowhere does it say we can't play whilst he's here. Do either you or he live alone?" What if they live alone and still bubble wrapping with other singles?? | |||
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"no matter how you look at the message delivered today by the briefing it can be and will be twisted to how ever anyone wants to use it and in a away they are all right as the message is open to all ... no point in name calling to those who see it as a green light to meet ..theres only one idiot here and thats the government for not being totally clear... It is totally clear. It's been repeated several times and it very clearly who this applies to, single people living alone or single parents living with children under the age of 18, those people are allowed to choose ONE other household to be in a bubble with. So my single friend with benefits can come stay in my house. Nowhere does it say we can't play whilst he's here. Do either you or he live alone? What if they live alone and still bubble wrapping with other singles??" That's not allowed. Did you really not understand it? | |||
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"no matter how you look at the message delivered today by the briefing it can be and will be twisted to how ever anyone wants to use it and in a away they are all right as the message is open to all ... no point in name calling to those who see it as a green light to meet ..theres only one idiot here and thats the government for not being totally clear... It is totally clear. It's been repeated several times and it very clearly who this applies to, single people living alone or single parents living with children under the age of 18, those people are allowed to choose ONE other household to be in a bubble with. So my single friend with benefits can come stay in my house. Nowhere does it say we can't play whilst he's here. Do either you or he live alone? What if they live alone and still bubble wrapping with other singles?? That's not allowed. Did you really not understand it?" Nope | |||
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"One household can mix with a single person from another household. https://www.itv.com/news/2020-06-10/boris-johnson-leads-government-s-daily-coronavirus-press-conference/" Only if the single person lives alone or only with children under the age of 18. | |||
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"no matter how you look at the message delivered today by the briefing it can be and will be twisted to how ever anyone wants to use it and in a away they are all right as the message is open to all ... no point in name calling to those who see it as a green light to meet ..theres only one idiot here and thats the government for not being totally clear... It is totally clear. It's been repeated several times and it very clearly who this applies to, single people living alone or single parents living with children under the age of 18, those people are allowed to choose ONE other household to be in a bubble with. So my single friend with benefits can come stay in my house. Nowhere does it say we can't play whilst he's here. Do either you or he live alone? What if they live alone and still bubble wrapping with other singles?? That's not allowed. Did you really not understand it? Nope " Someone that lives alone or with children under the age of 18, no other adults, can choose ONE household to be in a bubble with, they can treat that household the same as if they all live together. However, neither party can then be in a bubble with anyone else. | |||
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"no matter how you look at the message delivered today by the briefing it can be and will be twisted to how ever anyone wants to use it and in a away they are all right as the message is open to all ... no point in name calling to those who see it as a green light to meet ..theres only one idiot here and thats the government for not being totally clear... It is totally clear. It's been repeated several times and it very clearly who this applies to, single people living alone or single parents living with children under the age of 18, those people are allowed to choose ONE other household to be in a bubble with. So my single friend with benefits can come stay in my house. Nowhere does it say we can't play whilst he's here. Do either you or he live alone?" Yes he lives completely alone | |||
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"no matter how you look at the message delivered today by the briefing it can be and will be twisted to how ever anyone wants to use it and in a away they are all right as the message is open to all ... no point in name calling to those who see it as a green light to meet ..theres only one idiot here and thats the government for not being totally clear... It is totally clear. It's been repeated several times and it very clearly who this applies to, single people living alone or single parents living with children under the age of 18, those people are allowed to choose ONE other household to be in a bubble with. So my single friend with benefits can come stay in my house. Nowhere does it say we can't play whilst he's here. Do either you or he live alone? Yes he lives completely alone " Then yes, but he can only be in a bubble with your household, and nobody from your household can be in a bubble with anyone else. | |||
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"One household can mix with a single person from another household. https://www.itv.com/news/2020-06-10/boris-johnson-leads-government-s-daily-coronavirus-press-conference/ Only if the single person lives alone or only with children under the age of 18. " I will rephrase for anyone who didn't copy and paste the link to read the full article One household can mix with a single person who lives alone or is a single parent from another household. | |||
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"A single person can visit one household only. Surely someone who has been alone for this long would prefer to go and spend time with family in their household, not be thinking they can enter random peoples homes for sex. This is definitely not what the pm said. This whole pandemic has made me question people’s intelligence. " Absolutely! As much fun as being able to find a playmate to be in "bubble" with would be. Family is 100% more important! I was delighted to hear that I can now hug my parents again. Great news what with it soon being Fathers day! I am looking forward to having them over to my house and I will cook us all a nice family meal! | |||
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"So. Sounds good. But question to you all and boris. What has changed.??????? As it gone ??????. No more virus??????" No. | |||
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"So. Sounds good. But question to you all and boris. What has changed.??????? As it gone ??????. No more virus??????" The point of lockdown was never to wait for the virus to disappear | |||
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"So thay are now accepting a number of deaths. Mmmm Plebs" People do die every day of something covid or no covid. | |||
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"no matter how you look at the message delivered today by the briefing it can be and will be twisted to how ever anyone wants to use it and in a away they are all right as the message is open to all ... no point in name calling to those who see it as a green light to meet ..theres only one idiot here and thats the government for not being totally clear... It is totally clear. It's been repeated several times and it very clearly who this applies to, single people living alone or single parents living with children under the age of 18, those people are allowed to choose ONE other household to be in a bubble with. So my single friend with benefits can come stay in my house. Nowhere does it say we can't play whilst he's here. Do either you or he live alone? Yes he lives completely alone " Then he can have your household as his "bubble" however this is an exclusive arrangement. As such it means he would be choosing your house over family, similarly you would be choosing him over your family! | |||
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"I'm old enough to remember when they said lockdown was for capacity and to flattern the curve, where well beyond that, social isolation and a broken economy will kill more than the virus, folks die of lots of things " What a shame that your fantastic visionary prowesses are so unknown to the public! Have you applied to join Sage? Your country needs you! | |||
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"no matter how you look at the message delivered today by the briefing it can be and will be twisted to how ever anyone wants to use it and in a away they are all right as the message is open to all ... no point in name calling to those who see it as a green light to meet ..theres only one idiot here and thats the government for not being totally clear... It is totally clear. It's been repeated several times and it very clearly who this applies to, single people living alone or single parents living with children under the age of 18, those people are allowed to choose ONE other household to be in a bubble with. So my single friend with benefits can come stay in my house. Nowhere does it say we can't play whilst he's here. Do either you or he live alone? Yes he lives completely alone Then he can have your household as his "bubble" however this is an exclusive arrangement. As such it means he would be choosing your house over family, similarly you would be choosing him over your family! " Couldn't be clearer, so choose well folks, who are you going to choose and who are you going to say F You to? Just a figure of speech but a huge one to consider! | |||
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"Nothing as changed. All what we have been through means nothing. It's still there killing. Google temporary mortuary. And see" That's rubbish. We have gone back to pre lockdown average deaths. We can't stay in lockdown forever...we are going to have to learn to live with covid19. We can't stay social distancing forever it's not natural and not good for mental health | |||
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"Nothing as changed. All what we have been through means nothing. It's still there killing. Google temporary mortuary. And see" So what's the solution? Every single person stays inside, no one has any contact with anyone else, and we all wait for a vaccine - which may come this year, next year, or never? People need to be sensible and realise that this virus does kill people - I lost a friend to it - and it's still out there. But at the same time, there needs to be balance. Life can't stop completely for the next two/three/fours years. I say this as someone who is high risk. I'm not going to be rushing out to meet strangers or have sex, but I'm not going for months or years without seeing my close family. It's not worth it for me. | |||
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"Nothing as changed. All what we have been through means nothing. It's still there killing. Google temporary mortuary. And see So what's the solution? Every single person stays inside, no one has any contact with anyone else, and we all wait for a vaccine - which may come this year, next year, or never? People need to be sensible and realise that this virus does kill people - I lost a friend to it - and it's still out there. But at the same time, there needs to be balance. Life can't stop completely for the next two/three/fours years. I say this as someone who is high risk. I'm not going to be rushing out to meet strangers or have sex, but I'm not going for months or years without seeing my close family. It's not worth it for me. " Absolutely. There is still no vaccine for SARS. In fact there is no vaccine for any Corona virus yet. And we have been working on them for a very long time. | |||
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"Nothing as changed. All what we have been through means nothing. It's still there killing. Google temporary mortuary. And see So what's the solution? Every single person stays inside, no one has any contact with anyone else, and we all wait for a vaccine - which may come this year, next year, or never? People need to be sensible and realise that this virus does kill people - I lost a friend to it - and it's still out there. But at the same time, there needs to be balance. Life can't stop completely for the next two/three/fours years. I say this as someone who is high risk. I'm not going to be rushing out to meet strangers or have sex, but I'm not going for months or years without seeing my close family. It's not worth it for me. Absolutely. There is still no vaccine for SARS. In fact there is no vaccine for any Corona virus yet. And we have been working on them for a very long time." A lot of people don't realise that SARS and corona are from the same strain | |||
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"Says the PM. Let the sexcapade commence " To quote Mark Twain “Never argue with stupid people” I just don’t even know where to start with this | |||
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" Absolutely. There is still no vaccine for SARS. In fact there is no vaccine for any Corona virus yet. And we have been working on them for a very long time. A lot of people don't realise that SARS and corona are from the same strain" Coronavirus has 3 key strains over past few years. MERS, SARS and now Covid-19. About 45% of the common cold season is coronavirus. We may well get a vaccine. We may not. There will be more coronavirus issues in the future as our planet gets more and more crowded and more and more polluted. We have to learn to live with the virus as Hong Kong has. Friends there still work. The city still functions. Cases and deaths are minimal. Hasn't stopped Cathay Pacific needing a large bailout though which shows that no matter how good you are at containing, a pandemic is catastrophic in every way. | |||
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"I thought it was single person can meet parents or grandparent can meet with parent with child below 18 and to keep the social bubble to one other household. So if goin meet same person fine but not for swingers to go screw different people every day. Or am I wrong I thought it was clear. Although as I’ve said before and had abuse msgs sent some ppl are already meeting strangers and posting pics and status updates about it when others are sticking to rules to keep us and family safe You can only meet one parent / grandparent not both if they live together " if you are the single in the equation then you can go meet both parents if they are one household, if you live with people and they live with each other you can’t pretty much the rule is you can combine 2 households as long as one of those households is a single | |||
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"no matter how you look at the message delivered today by the briefing it can be and will be twisted to how ever anyone wants to use it and in a away they are all right as the message is open to all ... no point in name calling to those who see it as a green light to meet ..theres only one idiot here and thats the government for not being totally clear... It is totally clear. It's been repeated several times and it very clearly who this applies to, single people living alone or single parents living with children under the age of 18, those people are allowed to choose ONE other household to be in a bubble with. So my single friend with benefits can come stay in my house. Nowhere does it say we can't play whilst he's here. Do either you or he live alone? Yes he lives completely alone Then he can have your household as his "bubble" however this is an exclusive arrangement. As such it means he would be choosing your house over family, similarly you would be choosing him over your family! " you are assuming either has family nearby or that care enough to choose then for the bubble first day we were allowed out in scotland i was in the garden of one of my (female non sexual friends) ... that was who has been checking on me all the way through and she sacrificed seeing her family that weekend because she knew i had been alone the entire time and they all had others for many people friends are family and that is their support network | |||
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"I thought it was single person can meet parents or grandparent can meet with parent with child below 18 and to keep the social bubble to one other household. So if goin meet same person fine but not for swingers to go screw different people every day. Or am I wrong I thought it was clear. Although as I’ve said before and had abuse msgs sent some ppl are already meeting strangers and posting pics and status updates about it when others are sticking to rules to keep us and family safe You can only meet one parent / grandparent not both if they live together if you are the single in the equation then you can go meet both parents if they are one household, if you live with people and they live with each other you can’t pretty much the rule is you can combine 2 households as long as one of those households is a single " Unfortunately not, can only see parent / grandparents if they are a single person family, even if the other half of the bubble is single as well | |||
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"Lol another ridiculous and chaotic bojo guideline...... how on earth does he think people will take this as anything other than open season to meet whoever they wish (appreciating many have been doing so already). The RoW must think the uk gov is on one hell of a crazy acid trip ......" Boris said using your instinct is ok so just go with the flow | |||
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"A single person can visit one household only. Surely someone who has been alone for this long would prefer to go and spend time with family in their household, not be thinking they can enter random peoples homes for sex. This is definitely not what the pm said. This whole pandemic has made me question people’s intelligence. " Yep. Some bloody surreal interpretations | |||
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"Lol another ridiculous and chaotic bojo guideline...... how on earth does he think people will take this as anything other than open season to meet whoever they wish (appreciating many have been doing so already). The RoW must think the uk gov is on one hell of a crazy acid trip ......" But he clearly stated the restrictions, it's not his fault if people choose to make up their own version of it. People need to start taking responsibility of their own actions and stop looking to push the blame onto others. | |||
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"Had to be a man starting the thread.. I'm glad we live In Wales.. So who have the straight (not Fab straight!) men on Fab been meeting the past 12 weeks then? It's easy to point the finger at guys but it takes 2 to tango. I've seen plenty of female profiles looking to meet during COVID yet it's single guys as usual that get all the shit." Calm down dear..... | |||
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"Lol another ridiculous and chaotic bojo guideline...... how on earth does he think people will take this as anything other than open season to meet whoever they wish (appreciating many have been doing so already). The RoW must think the uk gov is on one hell of a crazy acid trip ...... But he clearly stated the restrictions, it's not his fault if people choose to make up their own version of it. People need to start taking responsibility of their own actions and stop looking to push the blame onto others. " Exactly. I'm not his biggest fan. But no where did he say you can now start having sex with lots of different people at their house or yours. It's just it help those lonely individuals who might be struggling. | |||
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"The fact that so many seem to view these bubbles as an opportunity for sex is interesting & actually quite sad. After all these weeks of lockdown & social isolation their priority is getting their end away as opposed to being able to reconnect with family or friends Must be especially hard for those in the shielding group to read some of these totally selfish comments. " Totally agree | |||
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"I think the title of this thread is irresponsible. People interpret the rules in their own way as it is, this title is like a Daily Mirror front page heading...twisted for attention, losely based on truth and misleading. " Not really - single people can meet with another single person or a couple - a couple can meet with a single person. They are then limited to only those people but the title is accurate we can meet “someone” again - but hey ... killjoys going to kill joy | |||
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"The fact that so many seem to view these bubbles as an opportunity for sex is interesting & actually quite sad. After all these weeks of lockdown & social isolation their priority is getting their end away as opposed to being able to reconnect with family or friends Must be especially hard for those in the shielding group to read some of these totally selfish comments. " Obviously this is not an opportunity for lots of NSA meets, as implied by the OP. But I don’t think that it is helpful to pathologise people for wanting to have sex. There’s an assumption in this post that people will have family who live close by that they can see, which isn’t the case for everyone. And personally, I have been happy social distancing when seeing my friends and would get little benefit from forming a bubble with any one of them If someone in a similar situation wanted to form a bubble with a fwb, who was also in the same situation then this is totally valid. But yes, also totally different from wanting to get your end away with multiple strangers | |||
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"Says the PM. Let the sexcapade commence " It is good news but after reading a similar thread I'm thinking, do I want to shag or have my son who turned 13 four days after lockdown? If you form one bubble you can't form another. So I say chose wisely! | |||
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"Bungling BoJo has just NO to overnight stays!!! Yet in April when he left hospital he moved his girl friend in with him. The term does double standards come to mind!! So he has opened up the term doing a Boris&Carrie " Ffs keep your political bitterness out of this. This is not the place for it. | |||
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"I will use this opportunity to advise everyone that they should please stay at home and don't bubble with anyone because we still dont have a cure or vaccine for covid. So what's the point of easing the lockdown. What's point in allowing children to hug their grandparents even if they live alone. Didnt you start this thread saying you can meet? Sure thats what i read" Yeah I started it and im ready to form a bubble lol | |||
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"My bubble will be seeing my family not having sex with people of here. My health comes 1st and my family health not catching the virus As a couple, if you live together, these new bubble rules don't apply to you. It is for people who live completely alone or those who only live with children under the age of 18. " That be me then. But i only want to meet one special person | |||
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"The various interpretations of the bubble rule can be discussed all night, the bottom line is however, nor the bubble rule or the garden rule can be policed " True, but we are grown ups aren't we, and we know that the virus is in our community and spread by close contact. We really don't need police or politicians to make those decisions for us. I mean it's dangerous sticking your fingers in an electric socket, but it's not illegal. We just choose not to do it because we are intelligent. | |||
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"The fact that so many seem to view these bubbles as an opportunity for sex is interesting & actually quite sad. After all these weeks of lockdown & social isolation their priority is getting their end away as opposed to being able to reconnect with family or friends Must be especially hard for those in the shielding group to read some of these totally selfish comments. Obviously this is not an opportunity for lots of NSA meets, as implied by the OP. But I don’t think that it is helpful to pathologise people for wanting to have sex. There’s an assumption in this post that people will have family who live close by that they can see, which isn’t the case for everyone. And personally, I have been happy social distancing when seeing my friends and would get little benefit from forming a bubble with any one of them If someone in a similar situation wanted to form a bubble with a fwb, who was also in the same situation then this is totally valid. But yes, also totally different from wanting to get your end away with multiple strangers I’m glad someone else said this as I was just about to post the same thing! No local family, seen friends at a social distance and don’t feel a burning desire to visit them in their home or visa versa. So why wouldn’t I use the opportunity to visit someone I have missed physical contact with for months? No hugs, no kisses, no peck on the cheek, no holding hands, nothing. It’s interesting how it’s couples sneering, when I’m pretty sure they have had sex and physical affection during the whole period. It makes me pretty cross to read those judgmental posts tbh. " i think its easy to forget when you are in a relationship just how lonely being single can be in normal times let alone now when it pretty much means total isolation and no physical touch at all ... its not all about sex ... an arm round your shoulder , a cuddle when you are sad , someone holding your hand, even sitting side by side on the couch having a glass of wine and a chat... none of it exists for single people anymore and it can have a terrible impact on mental health if the rule was just family the government would have said so, they specifically left it open because they know people will get that comfort from different sources depending on their own circumstances | |||
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