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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

So we are in a pandemic and morons demonstrate like sardines..

Old lives matter...

Bring it to your homes and tubes and buses..

Shame on you....

Selfish ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This should be in the virus threads surely?

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By *uriousKinksterMan
over a year ago

Loughborough


"This should be in the virus threads surely?"

Wot she said innit bruv.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Morons all the same..

The sardines will blame the government obs..

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Every one of you who went today..

Shame on you

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By *uriousKinksterMan
over a year ago

Loughborough


"Every one of you who went today..

Shame on you "

I'm so sorry. I only wanted a Greggs, but a strange man handed me a billboard and I just got swept away in the aura. Honestly I had no idea that black people felt they should have the same rights as white folks. It was a real eye opener. And the steak bake was delicious.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every one of you who went today..

Shame on you "

Have to agree lockdown down the pan.

What a waste of every body's time.

Might as well introduce fans back to football matches.

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By *ud and BryanCouple
over a year ago

Boston, Lincolnshire


"Every one of you who went today..

Shame on you "

Agree entirely - and as for defacing a war memorial, well that will help their case won't it?! Arseholes!!!

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"Every one of you who went today..

Shame on you

Agree entirely - and as for defacing a war memorial, well that will help their case won't it?! Arseholes!!!"
that was disgusting behaviour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every one of you who went today..

Shame on you

Agree entirely - and as for defacing a war memorial, well that will help their case won't it?! Arseholes!!! that was disgusting behaviour. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wake up Peoples!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wake up Peoples!! "
To what?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

In agricultural terms these people are muck spreaders..

How many will be infected because of these morons..

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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago

birmingham


"In agricultural terms these people are muck spreaders..

How many will be infected because of these morons.."

Of there's no second spike can ee unlock?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too.

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By *adeiteWoman
over a year ago

Staffordshire


"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too. "

No its just passive aggressive and less likely to be noticed. Racism is in abundance in the uk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This should be in the virus threads surely?"
it is

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

bristol


"Every one of you who went today..

Shame on you

Agree entirely - and as for defacing a war memorial, well that will help their case won't it?! Arseholes!!!"

THEIR case wow. I guess you're referring to black people. Arseholes? really?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hope they stayed 2m apart and wore masks and latex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every one of you who went today..

Shame on you

Agree entirely - and as for defacing a war memorial, well that will help their case won't it?! Arseholes!!!

THEIR case wow. I guess you're referring to black people. Arseholes? really?"

No, I'm sure he's talking about the group of ex service men that lived through the war. You know, Captain Tom Moore's crew. I mean what was the point of fighting for this county, and the money he raised to fight for this generation. And the thanks he gets is for his generation to die alone without their loved ones close by. Dear lord, as if anyone should dispute the wrong doings of anyone of colour. It's just not on is it? I mean really?

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

bristol


"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too. "

So WE should protest online and you'll listen? Have you ever been a victim of racism. Ask us we know. The only difference is that the cops here don't have guns to be shooting and killing black people. Racism is not low in this country but then again you're ont on the receiving end so you wouldn't know how it feels.

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By *nB23Man
over a year ago

London


"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too. "

Ahhhh the joy of white privilege. That's why people are protesting, to demonstrate exactly that there still is systemic and institutional racism. Sadly your viewpoint is part of the problem and not the solution.

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By *racy_JacksWoman
over a year ago

Derby

Well, when there is an inevitable spike in covid cases it’ll give the far right some ammunition. Good job people.

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

bristol


"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too.

Ahhhh the joy of white privilege. That's why people are protesting, to demonstrate exactly that there still is systemic and institutional racism. Sadly your viewpoint is part of the problem and not the solution. "

Well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too.

So WE should protest online and you'll listen? Have you ever been a victim of racism. Ask us we know. The only difference is that the cops here don't have guns to be shooting and killing black people. Racism is not low in this country but then again you're ont on the receiving end so you wouldn't know how it feels."

The people that are already racist probably won't change, won't listen. If it was more frowned upon then it might make a difference. But to threaten everyone's lives will not have a positive effect. People that would stand against racism might not fight so hard to change the minds of the minority of racists. In the whole of the UK only a small proportion are racist. The rest of us don't deserve the backlash these protests can cause. To fight against the few, they are lashing out at the majority. That's the problem.

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By *andrxCouple
over a year ago

bedford


"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too.

So WE should protest online and you'll listen? Have you ever been a victim of racism. Ask us we know. The only difference is that the cops here don't have guns to be shooting and killing black people. Racism is not low in this country but then again you're ont on the receiving end so you wouldn't know how it feels.

The people that are already racist probably won't change, won't listen. If it was more frowned upon then it might make a difference. But to threaten everyone's lives will not have a positive effect. People that would stand against racism might not fight so hard to change the minds of the minority of racists. In the whole of the UK only a small proportion are racist. The rest of us don't deserve the backlash these protests can cause. To fight against the few, they are lashing out at the majority. That's the problem. "

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

bristol


"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too.

So WE should protest online and you'll listen? Have you ever been a victim of racism. Ask us we know. The only difference is that the cops here don't have guns to be shooting and killing black people. Racism is not low in this country but then again you're ont on the receiving end so you wouldn't know how it feels.

The people that are already racist probably won't change, won't listen. If it was more frowned upon then it might make a difference. But to threaten everyone's lives will not have a positive effect. People that would stand against racism might not fight so hard to change the minds of the minority of racists. In the whole of the UK only a small proportion are racist. The rest of us don't deserve the backlash these protests can cause. To fight against the few, they are lashing out at the majority. That's the problem. "

If you're not racist then you shouldn't be worried about the protests coz they're not directed at you.The number of racist people doesn't have to be high,even a few can do a lot of damage. I'm most of the cops in the US will tell you they're not racist and yet black people get gunned down by white cops. When you say THEIR cause or THEM when referring to black people it shows that you don't understand our struggle and thats why you suggest we should protest online

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Sadly your viewpoint is part of the problem and not the solution. "

Dare I ask what you consider to be the solution?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too.

So WE should protest online and you'll listen? Have you ever been a victim of racism. Ask us we know. The only difference is that the cops here don't have guns to be shooting and killing black people. Racism is not low in this country but then again you're ont on the receiving end so you wouldn't know how it feels.

The people that are already racist probably won't change, won't listen. If it was more frowned upon then it might make a difference. But to threaten everyone's lives will not have a positive effect. People that would stand against racism might not fight so hard to change the minds of the minority of racists. In the whole of the UK only a small proportion are racist. The rest of us don't deserve the backlash these protests can cause. To fight against the few, they are lashing out at the majority. That's the problem.

If you're not racist then you shouldn't be worried about the protests coz they're not directed at you.The number of racist people doesn't have to be high,even a few can do a lot of damage. I'm most of the cops in the US will tell you they're not racist and yet black people get gunned down by white cops. When you say THEIR cause or THEM when referring to black people it shows that you don't understand our struggle and thats why you suggest we should protest online"

Protesting during a pandemic will effect me. Will effect alot of people. The lack of respect damaging the war memorial rubs me up the wrong way. You may be black and proud but I'm white and proud of what they solders done for us. To be able to live in one of the best countries in the world.

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By *i1971Man
over a year ago

Cornwall


"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too.

So WE should protest online and you'll listen? Have you ever been a victim of racism. Ask us we know. The only difference is that the cops here don't have guns to be shooting and killing black people. Racism is not low in this country but then again you're ont on the receiving end so you wouldn't know how it feels.

The people that are already racist probably won't change, won't listen. If it was more frowned upon then it might make a difference. But to threaten everyone's lives will not have a positive effect. People that would stand against racism might not fight so hard to change the minds of the minority of racists. In the whole of the UK only a small proportion are racist. The rest of us don't deserve the backlash these protests can cause. To fight against the few, they are lashing out at the majority. That's the problem.

If you're not racist then you shouldn't be worried about the protests coz they're not directed at you.The number of racist people doesn't have to be high,even a few can do a lot of damage. I'm most of the cops in the US will tell you they're not racist and yet black people get gunned down by white cops. When you say THEIR cause or THEM when referring to black people it shows that you don't understand our struggle and thats why you suggest we should protest online"

Personally when I read this I wasn't thinking in the context of colour or race - I took "their cause" or "them" to be referring to the protestors as a whole as I suspect did many reading this, whatever the mix is.

It wouldn't matter to me what the protest was about - to act in the way they have done is wrong at this time and there was absolutely no need for the displays at and around Downing Street when it was really getting out of hand.

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There

I hope you were equally furious with everyone in the parks and on the beaches when it was good weather. And I hope you’ve followed the isolation and social distancing rules yourself, completely. I bet you haven’t though. Like most people, I’m sure there have been things that you’ve needed to do during lockdown that have meant you’ve got too close to someone you shouldn’t, or you’ve been somewhere you shouldn’t. Maybe you don’t believe strongly that racism needs protesting, but these people did. If there is a spike these people might have contributed, but they’re certainly not alone.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

We thankfully still have the right to protest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If there was no pandemic I wonder what other excuses the racists would use to berate the people protesting?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We thankfully still have the right to protest. "

Right to protest yes but rioting is different

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We thankfully still have the right to protest.

Right to protest yes but rioting is different "

We really shouldn't have the right to protest during a pandemic. If we are not allowed to visit family and friends and go about our lives as normal, then why should this be allowed to happen?

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There


"We thankfully still have the right to protest.

Right to protest yes but rioting is different "

That’ll be why they said protest and not riot.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too.

So WE should protest online and you'll listen? Have you ever been a victim of racism. Ask us we know. The only difference is that the cops here don't have guns to be shooting and killing black people. Racism is not low in this country but then again you're ont on the receiving end so you wouldn't know how it feels.

The people that are already racist probably won't change, won't listen. If it was more frowned upon then it might make a difference. But to threaten everyone's lives will not have a positive effect. People that would stand against racism might not fight so hard to change the minds of the minority of racists. In the whole of the UK only a small proportion are racist. The rest of us don't deserve the backlash these protests can cause. To fight against the few, they are lashing out at the majority. That's the problem.

If you're not racist then you shouldn't be worried about the protests coz they're not directed at you.The number of racist people doesn't have to be high,even a few can do a lot of damage. I'm most of the cops in the US will tell you they're not racist and yet black people get gunned down by white cops. When you say THEIR cause or THEM when referring to black people it shows that you don't understand our struggle and thats why you suggest we should protest online

Protesting during a pandemic will effect me. Will effect alot of people. The lack of respect damaging the war memorial rubs me up the wrong way. You may be black and proud but I'm white and proud of what they solders done for us. To be able to live in one of the best countries in the world. "

Remember, they have disrespected many soldiers of every colour and religion by defacing the war memorial. Those people fought for the freedoms we have today, black, white and every other bloody colour of there rainbow. Anything those protesters have done which may have been good has now been ruined by their actions for me.

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There


"We thankfully still have the right to protest.

Right to protest yes but rioting is different

We really shouldn't have the right to protest during a pandemic. If we are not allowed to visit family and friends and go about our lives as normal, then why should this be allowed to happen? "

That’s a question for Boris. The protest broke all the rules of mass gatherings but was allowed anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If there was no pandemic I wonder what other excuses the racists would use to berate the people protesting?"

Without a pandemic the riots would be.

I didn't realise I was a racist because I'm white and stand against the protests and riots. Every day's a school day. I'm glad the fab experts have cleared that for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Two rights dont make a wrong same as two wrongs dont make a right..The mass protesting could of observed better social distancing and should of vandalism in any form is wrong....but notice from all those condemning the actions of the protest few if any are of the minorities..its easy to condemn others actions from your ivory towers but there is a time in everyones live when enough becomes enough. How many white people have entered a prefominantly none white area and felt uncomfortable from people just watching you to possible comments/remarks about you as you pass...imagine that on a daily basis. Imagine being stopped and questioned more regular because of your appearance. Even down to body language and the actions of those in authority. I have witnessed police in the uk stop people and when its been none whites they are more prone to have a hand on their baton, tazer Cs spray etc and this is the UK not America, such small actions are very intimidating without any other actions. Adults pulling children closer to them when a person of colour walking will walk close by..why does this happen ? I've been a witness to many small things like those mentioned...I can't imagine being the person who its aimed at and the feelings they generate within you..

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By *i1971Man
over a year ago

Cornwall


"We thankfully still have the right to protest. "

But if anyone protests grouped like sardines during a pandemic, they really shouldn't expect sympathy should they be at the next peak of infection. Also as soon as there's violence/vandalism, the arguments been lost with me.

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

bristol


"If there was no pandemic I wonder what other excuses the racists would use to berate the people protesting?"

D DAY or the weather

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There


"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too.

So WE should protest online and you'll listen? Have you ever been a victim of racism. Ask us we know. The only difference is that the cops here don't have guns to be shooting and killing black people. Racism is not low in this country but then again you're ont on the receiving end so you wouldn't know how it feels.

The people that are already racist probably won't change, won't listen. If it was more frowned upon then it might make a difference. But to threaten everyone's lives will not have a positive effect. People that would stand against racism might not fight so hard to change the minds of the minority of racists. In the whole of the UK only a small proportion are racist. The rest of us don't deserve the backlash these protests can cause. To fight against the few, they are lashing out at the majority. That's the problem.

If you're not racist then you shouldn't be worried about the protests coz they're not directed at you.The number of racist people doesn't have to be high,even a few can do a lot of damage. I'm most of the cops in the US will tell you they're not racist and yet black people get gunned down by white cops. When you say THEIR cause or THEM when referring to black people it shows that you don't understand our struggle and thats why you suggest we should protest online

Protesting during a pandemic will effect me. Will effect alot of people. The lack of respect damaging the war memorial rubs me up the wrong way. You may be black and proud but I'm white and proud of what they solders done for us. To be able to live in one of the best countries in the world.

Remember, they have disrespected many soldiers of every colour and religion by defacing the war memorial. Those people fought for the freedoms we have today, black, white and every other bloody colour of there rainbow. Anything those protesters have done which may have been good has now been ruined by their actions for me. "

Not all protesters are rioters. The two shouldn’t be confused.

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

bristol


"Two rights dont make a wrong same as two wrongs dont make a right..The mass protesting could of observed better social distancing and should of vandalism in any form is wrong....but notice from all those condemning the actions of the protest few if any are of the minorities..its easy to condemn others actions from your ivory towers but there is a time in everyones live when enough becomes enough. How many white people have entered a prefominantly none white area and felt uncomfortable from people just watching you to possible comments/remarks about you as you pass...imagine that on a daily basis. Imagine being stopped and questioned more regular because of your appearance. Even down to body language and the actions of those in authority. I have witnessed police in the uk stop people and when its been none whites they are more prone to have a hand on their baton, tazer Cs spray etc and this is the UK not America, such small actions are very intimidating without any other actions. Adults pulling children closer to them when a person of colour walking will walk close by..why does this happen ? I've been a witness to many small things like those mentioned...I can't imagine being the person who its aimed at and the feelings they generate within you.."

Thank you. I've walked into high end shops and as soon as you walk in the security follow me around until I get to the till and pay,regardless of how much I spend and when a white person walks in no matter their appearance they don't get followed around the shop

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too. "

How do you know about levels of racism in the UK?

Do you have evidence to support that they are low?

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too.

So WE should protest online and you'll listen? Have you ever been a victim of racism. Ask us we know. The only difference is that the cops here don't have guns to be shooting and killing black people. Racism is not low in this country but then again you're ont on the receiving end so you wouldn't know how it feels.

The people that are already racist probably won't change, won't listen. If it was more frowned upon then it might make a difference. But to threaten everyone's lives will not have a positive effect. People that would stand against racism might not fight so hard to change the minds of the minority of racists. In the whole of the UK only a small proportion are racist. The rest of us don't deserve the backlash these protests can cause. To fight against the few, they are lashing out at the majority. That's the problem.

If you're not racist then you shouldn't be worried about the protests coz they're not directed at you.The number of racist people doesn't have to be high,even a few can do a lot of damage. I'm most of the cops in the US will tell you they're not racist and yet black people get gunned down by white cops. When you say THEIR cause or THEM when referring to black people it shows that you don't understand our struggle and thats why you suggest we should protest online

Protesting during a pandemic will effect me. Will effect alot of people. The lack of respect damaging the war memorial rubs me up the wrong way. You may be black and proud but I'm white and proud of what they solders done for us. To be able to live in one of the best countries in the world.

Remember, they have disrespected many soldiers of every colour and religion by defacing the war memorial. Those people fought for the freedoms we have today, black, white and every other bloody colour of there rainbow. Anything those protesters have done which may have been good has now been ruined by their actions for me.

Not all protesters are rioters. The two shouldn’t be confused. "

Then they should have been stopped by the genuine protesters and made to see the error of their ways. I have 0 respect or time for people who do things like this.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple


"We thankfully still have the right to protest.

Right to protest yes but rioting is different

We really shouldn't have the right to protest during a pandemic. If we are not allowed to visit family and friends and go about our lives as normal, then why should this be allowed to happen? "

Because sadly a black man was murdered and racism is alive and well in the UK

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

A war memorial is an object

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There


"If there was no pandemic I wonder what other excuses the racists would use to berate the people protesting?

Without a pandemic the riots would be.

I didn't realise I was a racist because I'm white and stand against the protests and riots. Every day's a school day. I'm glad the fab experts have cleared that for me. "

I’m fairly sure I’ve seen you post ‘white lives matter’ in another thread (forgive me if I’m wrong). So you might not consider yourself a racist, but the picture you’re portraying outwardly by posting things like that and objecting to the protests is that you don’t think black lives matter all that much. Either because now isn’t a very convenient time, or it’s important to you that we all remember about the white people too! There are endless resources being shared all over the place explaining how ill informed and unhelpful saying ‘white lives matter’ is, but you choose to say it anyway and you berate the protesters. So you might not consider yourself racist, but we only get to see what you put out there.

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By *ensual -lover69Man
over a year ago

Blackburn


"So we are in a pandemic and morons demonstrate like sardines..

Old lives matter...

Bring it to your homes and tubes and buses..

Shame on you....

Selfish ...."

I think this virus as shown just how mentally ill this country really is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just a quick thought, IF all protesters ha socially distance, two metres in all directions, how long wold their March have been? Wouldn’t that length and time to pass have reflected the period of their issue? The respect for all lives, not just black lives, Police and their fellow protesters For the achievements, shops cafes Businesses etc along the route Wouldn’t that have made a louder point than ......violence, close proximity?

Some of the best protests are the unexpected. Ngl most ppl see the violence etc as proof that the demonstrators are there, like the old football fans Just for a punch up!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Two rights dont make a wrong same as two wrongs dont make a right..The mass protesting could of observed better social distancing and should of vandalism in any form is wrong....but notice from all those condemning the actions of the protest few if any are of the minorities..its easy to condemn others actions from your ivory towers but there is a time in everyones live when enough becomes enough. How many white people have entered a prefominantly none white area and felt uncomfortable from people just watching you to possible comments/remarks about you as you pass...imagine that on a daily basis. Imagine being stopped and questioned more regular because of your appearance. Even down to body language and the actions of those in authority. I have witnessed police in the uk stop people and when its been none whites they are more prone to have a hand on their baton, tazer Cs spray etc and this is the UK not America, such small actions are very intimidating without any other actions. Adults pulling children closer to them when a person of colour walking will walk close by..why does this happen ? I've been a witness to many small things like those mentioned...I can't imagine being the person who its aimed at and the feelings they generate within you.."

George Floyed wasn't an upstanding member of the community. People react out of fear just like we do towards Muslims. Because of the behaviour/ reputation of some of them we are wary of them all. That's human nature. We voted out of Europe to try and stop imagration and terrorist slipping through the net. To keep ourselves safe from harm.

It's a fact that knife crime is high in black communitys So of coarse police are going to stop and check. That's not racist, that's precaution. People are only cautious through experience and facts. I saw something on TV about black youths going out to fight with other black youths just because they live in a different part of London. They are all carrying knifes and don't even know themselves why they are fighting, it's just the done thing. When dealing with that sort of mentality on a daily basis I can understand why the police treat them all as a potential threat till proven otherwise.

https://rmx.news/article/article/minneapolis-police-union-chief-george-floyd-had-a-criminal-history

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There


"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too.

So WE should protest online and you'll listen? Have you ever been a victim of racism. Ask us we know. The only difference is that the cops here don't have guns to be shooting and killing black people. Racism is not low in this country but then again you're ont on the receiving end so you wouldn't know how it feels.

The people that are already racist probably won't change, won't listen. If it was more frowned upon then it might make a difference. But to threaten everyone's lives will not have a positive effect. People that would stand against racism might not fight so hard to change the minds of the minority of racists. In the whole of the UK only a small proportion are racist. The rest of us don't deserve the backlash these protests can cause. To fight against the few, they are lashing out at the majority. That's the problem.

If you're not racist then you shouldn't be worried about the protests coz they're not directed at you.The number of racist people doesn't have to be high,even a few can do a lot of damage. I'm most of the cops in the US will tell you they're not racist and yet black people get gunned down by white cops. When you say THEIR cause or THEM when referring to black people it shows that you don't understand our struggle and thats why you suggest we should protest online

Protesting during a pandemic will effect me. Will effect alot of people. The lack of respect damaging the war memorial rubs me up the wrong way. You may be black and proud but I'm white and proud of what they solders done for us. To be able to live in one of the best countries in the world.

Remember, they have disrespected many soldiers of every colour and religion by defacing the war memorial. Those people fought for the freedoms we have today, black, white and every other bloody colour of there rainbow. Anything those protesters have done which may have been good has now been ruined by their actions for me.

Not all protesters are rioters. The two shouldn’t be confused.

Then they should have been stopped by the genuine protesters and made to see the error of their ways. I have 0 respect or time for people who do things like this. "

Some of the rioters were maniacs and were armed. If I was protesting peacefully and they started I’m not sure I’d tackle them. Would you?

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By *ensual -lover69Man
over a year ago

Blackburn


"If there was no pandemic I wonder what other excuses the racists would use to berate the people protesting?

Without a pandemic the riots would be.

I didn't realise I was a racist because I'm white and stand against the protests and riots. Every day's a school day. I'm glad the fab experts have cleared that for me.

I’m fairly sure I’ve seen you post ‘white lives matter’ in another thread (forgive me if I’m wrong). So you might not consider yourself a racist, but the picture you’re portraying outwardly by posting things like that and objecting to the protests is that you don’t think black lives matter all that much. Either because now isn’t a very convenient time, or it’s important to you that we all remember about the white people too! There are endless resources being shared all over the place explaining how ill informed and unhelpful saying ‘white lives matter’ is, but you choose to say it anyway and you berate the protesters. So you might not consider yourself racist, but we only get to see what you put out there. "

What most people seem to forget is that discrimination is rife everywhere not just against black people, it was wrong what happened to the black guy but rioting is not the way to do it,2 wrongs don't make a right.the real racism is blacks against whites, I've experienced it a few times, I class myself as colour blind technically, I treat people as they treat me and to me that is how it should be.

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over a year ago


"If there was no pandemic I wonder what other excuses the racists would use to berate the people protesting?

Without a pandemic the riots would be.

I didn't realise I was a racist because I'm white and stand against the protests and riots. Every day's a school day. I'm glad the fab experts have cleared that for me.

I’m fairly sure I’ve seen you post ‘white lives matter’ in another thread (forgive me if I’m wrong). So you might not consider yourself a racist, but the picture you’re portraying outwardly by posting things like that and objecting to the protests is that you don’t think black lives matter all that much. Either because now isn’t a very convenient time, or it’s important to you that we all remember about the white people too! There are endless resources being shared all over the place explaining how ill informed and unhelpful saying ‘white lives matter’ is, but you choose to say it anyway and you berate the protesters. So you might not consider yourself racist, but we only get to see what you put out there. "

I said all lives matter. Because all lives are at stake in this pandemic. Everyone. What I can't understand is black people are hit harder and have had more deaths than white people. Yet they have no care for their lives or their loved ones. It baffles me. How can black life matter when they demonstrate they don't care? They'll protest regardless

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over a year ago


"If there was no pandemic I wonder what other excuses the racists would use to berate the people protesting?

Without a pandemic the riots would be.

I didn't realise I was a racist because I'm white and stand against the protests and riots. Every day's a school day. I'm glad the fab experts have cleared that for me.

I’m fairly sure I’ve seen you post ‘white lives matter’ in another thread (forgive me if I’m wrong). So you might not consider yourself a racist, but the picture you’re portraying outwardly by posting things like that and objecting to the protests is that you don’t think black lives matter all that much. Either because now isn’t a very convenient time, or it’s important to you that we all remember about the white people too! There are endless resources being shared all over the place explaining how ill informed and unhelpful saying ‘white lives matter’ is, but you choose to say it anyway and you berate the protesters. So you might not consider yourself racist, but we only get to see what you put out there.

What most people seem to forget is that discrimination is rife everywhere not just against black people, it was wrong what happened to the black guy but rioting is not the way to do it,2 wrongs don't make a right.the real racism is blacks against whites, I've experienced it a few times, I class myself as colour blind technically, I treat people as they treat me and to me that is how it should be."

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There


"If there was no pandemic I wonder what other excuses the racists would use to berate the people protesting?

Without a pandemic the riots would be.

I didn't realise I was a racist because I'm white and stand against the protests and riots. Every day's a school day. I'm glad the fab experts have cleared that for me.

I’m fairly sure I’ve seen you post ‘white lives matter’ in another thread (forgive me if I’m wrong). So you might not consider yourself a racist, but the picture you’re portraying outwardly by posting things like that and objecting to the protests is that you don’t think black lives matter all that much. Either because now isn’t a very convenient time, or it’s important to you that we all remember about the white people too! There are endless resources being shared all over the place explaining how ill informed and unhelpful saying ‘white lives matter’ is, but you choose to say it anyway and you berate the protesters. So you might not consider yourself racist, but we only get to see what you put out there.

What most people seem to forget is that discrimination is rife everywhere not just against black people, it was wrong what happened to the black guy but rioting is not the way to do it,2 wrongs don't make a right.the real racism is blacks against whites, I've experienced it a few times, I class myself as colour blind technically, I treat people as they treat me and to me that is how it should be."

In America rioting was actually the only way to do it. Without it, the policeman wouldn’t have been arrested, nor would the other too. It seems to be the way it works there unfortunately.

The real racism is definitely not blacks against whites at all. You only have to read a newspaper to see that. You’re definitely not ‘colourblind’ to have a view like that.

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over a year ago


"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too.

So WE should protest online and you'll listen? Have you ever been a victim of racism. Ask us we know. The only difference is that the cops here don't have guns to be shooting and killing black people. Racism is not low in this country but then again you're ont on the receiving end so you wouldn't know how it feels.

The people that are already racist probably won't change, won't listen. If it was more frowned upon then it might make a difference. But to threaten everyone's lives will not have a positive effect. People that would stand against racism might not fight so hard to change the minds of the minority of racists. In the whole of the UK only a small proportion are racist. The rest of us don't deserve the backlash these protests can cause. To fight against the few, they are lashing out at the majority. That's the problem.

If you're not racist then you shouldn't be worried about the protests coz they're not directed at you.The number of racist people doesn't have to be high,even a few can do a lot of damage. I'm most of the cops in the US will tell you they're not racist and yet black people get gunned down by white cops. When you say THEIR cause or THEM when referring to black people it shows that you don't understand our struggle and thats why you suggest we should protest online

Protesting during a pandemic will effect me. Will effect alot of people. The lack of respect damaging the war memorial rubs me up the wrong way. You may be black and proud but I'm white and proud of what they solders done for us. To be able to live in one of the best countries in the world.

Remember, they have disrespected many soldiers of every colour and religion by defacing the war memorial. Those people fought for the freedoms we have today, black, white and every other bloody colour of there rainbow. Anything those protesters have done which may have been good has now been ruined by their actions for me.

Not all protesters are rioters. The two shouldn’t be confused.

Then they should have been stopped by the genuine protesters and made to see the error of their ways. I have 0 respect or time for people who do things like this.

Some of the rioters were maniacs and were armed. If I was protesting peacefully and they started I’m not sure I’d tackle them. Would you?"

You could walk away and show no support. The protest demonstration had been done.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"So we are in a pandemic and morons demonstrate like sardines..

Old lives matter...

Bring it to your homes and tubes and buses..

Shame on you....

Selfish ...."

The rules are lost, lockdown's over.

People are back to work, shops opening up next week, public transport packed every day, we're being advised to wear home made masks in public places (which will provide only a false sense of security, not protection from covid), government representatives abuse the rules to suit their own needs..

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over a year ago


"If there was no pandemic I wonder what other excuses the racists would use to berate the people protesting?

Without a pandemic the riots would be.

I didn't realise I was a racist because I'm white and stand against the protests and riots. Every day's a school day. I'm glad the fab experts have cleared that for me.

I’m fairly sure I’ve seen you post ‘white lives matter’ in another thread (forgive me if I’m wrong). So you might not consider yourself a racist, but the picture you’re portraying outwardly by posting things like that and objecting to the protests is that you don’t think black lives matter all that much. Either because now isn’t a very convenient time, or it’s important to you that we all remember about the white people too! There are endless resources being shared all over the place explaining how ill informed and unhelpful saying ‘white lives matter’ is, but you choose to say it anyway and you berate the protesters. So you might not consider yourself racist, but we only get to see what you put out there.

I said all lives matter. Because all lives are at stake in this pandemic. Everyone. What I can't understand is black people are hit harder and have had more deaths than white people. Yet they have no care for their lives or their loved ones. It baffles me. How can black life matter when they demonstrate they don't care? They'll protest regardless "

In this case I dont think black people are acting without care for themselves or others. In the grand scheme of this pandemic they aren't showing social distancing etc which is your point I'm sure and you are right. But racism has killed more black people and for a lot longer than this pandemic and will likely continue to kill more after its gone. In this case its racism and any opportunity to rise up against it that is more important to black folk, imo.

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There


"If there was no pandemic I wonder what other excuses the racists would use to berate the people protesting?

Without a pandemic the riots would be.

I didn't realise I was a racist because I'm white and stand against the protests and riots. Every day's a school day. I'm glad the fab experts have cleared that for me.

I’m fairly sure I’ve seen you post ‘white lives matter’ in another thread (forgive me if I’m wrong). So you might not consider yourself a racist, but the picture you’re portraying outwardly by posting things like that and objecting to the protests is that you don’t think black lives matter all that much. Either because now isn’t a very convenient time, or it’s important to you that we all remember about the white people too! There are endless resources being shared all over the place explaining how ill informed and unhelpful saying ‘white lives matter’ is, but you choose to say it anyway and you berate the protesters. So you might not consider yourself racist, but we only get to see what you put out there.

I said all lives matter. Because all lives are at stake in this pandemic. Everyone. What I can't understand is black people are hit harder and have had more deaths than white people. Yet they have no care for their lives or their loved ones. It baffles me. How can black life matter when they demonstrate they don't care? They'll protest regardless "

Yes, sorry ‘all lives matter’, that’s what I meant. That’s inflammatory and is used as a way to squash ‘black lives matter’. It’s widely reported. So if you choose to use it, that’s your right but you can really then squirm at the suggestion of racism. You’ve used this thread to object to people protesting for black rights and have then pointed out reasons you think that black people should accept extra police attention. If you’re not wanting to appear racist you’re not going about it the right way.

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe


"the real racism is blacks against whites, I've experienced it a few times, I class myself as colour blind technically."

Can you explain what this means, the real racism bit. I understand racism can be projected from any race but what is the 'real' bit you're talking about?

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There


"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too.

So WE should protest online and you'll listen? Have you ever been a victim of racism. Ask us we know. The only difference is that the cops here don't have guns to be shooting and killing black people. Racism is not low in this country but then again you're ont on the receiving end so you wouldn't know how it feels.

The people that are already racist probably won't change, won't listen. If it was more frowned upon then it might make a difference. But to threaten everyone's lives will not have a positive effect. People that would stand against racism might not fight so hard to change the minds of the minority of racists. In the whole of the UK only a small proportion are racist. The rest of us don't deserve the backlash these protests can cause. To fight against the few, they are lashing out at the majority. That's the problem.

If you're not racist then you shouldn't be worried about the protests coz they're not directed at you.The number of racist people doesn't have to be high,even a few can do a lot of damage. I'm most of the cops in the US will tell you they're not racist and yet black people get gunned down by white cops. When you say THEIR cause or THEM when referring to black people it shows that you don't understand our struggle and thats why you suggest we should protest online

Protesting during a pandemic will effect me. Will effect alot of people. The lack of respect damaging the war memorial rubs me up the wrong way. You may be black and proud but I'm white and proud of what they solders done for us. To be able to live in one of the best countries in the world.

Remember, they have disrespected many soldiers of every colour and religion by defacing the war memorial. Those people fought for the freedoms we have today, black, white and every other bloody colour of there rainbow. Anything those protesters have done which may have been good has now been ruined by their actions for me.

Not all protesters are rioters. The two shouldn’t be confused.

Then they should have been stopped by the genuine protesters and made to see the error of their ways. I have 0 respect or time for people who do things like this.

Some of the rioters were maniacs and were armed. If I was protesting peacefully and they started I’m not sure I’d tackle them. Would you?

You could walk away and show no support. The protest demonstration had been done. "

And I’m sure many did. It’s definitely not the peaceful protesters responsibility to tackle crazy rioters. I wouldn’t do it and neither would you. The rioters had their own agenda, likely nothing to do with race and some of them were white.

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over a year ago


"If there was no pandemic I wonder what other excuses the racists would use to berate the people protesting?

Without a pandemic the riots would be.

I didn't realise I was a racist because I'm white and stand against the protests and riots. Every day's a school day. I'm glad the fab experts have cleared that for me.

I’m fairly sure I’ve seen you post ‘white lives matter’ in another thread (forgive me if I’m wrong). So you might not consider yourself a racist, but the picture you’re portraying outwardly by posting things like that and objecting to the protests is that you don’t think black lives matter all that much. Either because now isn’t a very convenient time, or it’s important to you that we all remember about the white people too! There are endless resources being shared all over the place explaining how ill informed and unhelpful saying ‘white lives matter’ is, but you choose to say it anyway and you berate the protesters. So you might not consider yourself racist, but we only get to see what you put out there.

I said all lives matter. Because all lives are at stake in this pandemic. Everyone. What I can't understand is black people are hit harder and have had more deaths than white people. Yet they have no care for their lives or their loved ones. It baffles me. How can black life matter when they demonstrate they don't care? They'll protest regardless

Yes, sorry ‘all lives matter’, that’s what I meant. That’s inflammatory and is used as a way to squash ‘black lives matter’. It’s widely reported. So if you choose to use it, that’s your right but you can really then squirm at the suggestion of racism. You’ve used this thread to object to people protesting for black rights and have then pointed out reasons you think that black people should accept extra police attention. If you’re not wanting to appear racist you’re not going about it the right way. "

I'm against any one that threatens my way of life, my safety, my health. To say all lives matter isn't anything against all black life's matter but they are putting there selves before everyone else. To stand up and say black lives matter and I don't care if your live is effected, if your loved ones die as long as I can do what I want, it's my right. If that's racist in your eyes , so be it

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr


"How many will be infected because of these morons?"

I don't know. Maybe about as many as were infected by all the morons who attended the Cheltenham Festival? We'll know in a few weeks.

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By *ungBlackTopMan
over a year ago

salford

R number was on the rise before the protests. Know your facts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"R number was on the rise before the protests. Know your facts. "

That makes it worse. Fact

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By *ungBlackTopMan
over a year ago

salford


"If there was no pandemic I wonder what other excuses the racists would use to berate the people protesting?

Without a pandemic the riots would be.

I didn't realise I was a racist because I'm white and stand against the protests and riots. Every day's a school day. I'm glad the fab experts have cleared that for me.

I’m fairly sure I’ve seen you post ‘white lives matter’ in another thread (forgive me if I’m wrong). So you might not consider yourself a racist, but the picture you’re portraying outwardly by posting things like that and objecting to the protests is that you don’t think black lives matter all that much. Either because now isn’t a very convenient time, or it’s important to you that we all remember about the white people too! There are endless resources being shared all over the place explaining how ill informed and unhelpful saying ‘white lives matter’ is, but you choose to say it anyway and you berate the protesters. So you might not consider yourself racist, but we only get to see what you put out there.

I said all lives matter. Because all lives are at stake in this pandemic. Everyone. What I can't understand is black people are hit harder and have had more deaths than white people. Yet they have no care for their lives or their loved ones. It baffles me. How can black life matter when they demonstrate they don't care? They'll protest regardless

Yes, sorry ‘all lives matter’, that’s what I meant. That’s inflammatory and is used as a way to squash ‘black lives matter’. It’s widely reported. So if you choose to use it, that’s your right but you can really then squirm at the suggestion of racism. You’ve used this thread to object to people protesting for black rights and have then pointed out reasons you think that black people should accept extra police attention. If you’re not wanting to appear racist you’re not going about it the right way.

I'm against any one that threatens my way of life, my safety, my health. To say all lives matter isn't anything against all black life's matter but they are putting there selves before everyone else. To stand up and say black lives matter and I don't care if your live is effected, if your loved ones die as long as I can do what I want, it's my right. If that's racist in your eyes , so be it "

White privilege exemplified.

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over a year ago


"If there was no pandemic I wonder what other excuses the racists would use to berate the people protesting?

Without a pandemic the riots would be.

I didn't realise I was a racist because I'm white and stand against the protests and riots. Every day's a school day. I'm glad the fab experts have cleared that for me.

I’m fairly sure I’ve seen you post ‘white lives matter’ in another thread (forgive me if I’m wrong). So you might not consider yourself a racist, but the picture you’re portraying outwardly by posting things like that and objecting to the protests is that you don’t think black lives matter all that much. Either because now isn’t a very convenient time, or it’s important to you that we all remember about the white people too! There are endless resources being shared all over the place explaining how ill informed and unhelpful saying ‘white lives matter’ is, but you choose to say it anyway and you berate the protesters. So you might not consider yourself racist, but we only get to see what you put out there.

I said all lives matter. Because all lives are at stake in this pandemic. Everyone. What I can't understand is black people are hit harder and have had more deaths than white people. Yet they have no care for their lives or their loved ones. It baffles me. How can black life matter when they demonstrate they don't care? They'll protest regardless

Yes, sorry ‘all lives matter’, that’s what I meant. That’s inflammatory and is used as a way to squash ‘black lives matter’. It’s widely reported. So if you choose to use it, that’s your right but you can really then squirm at the suggestion of racism. You’ve used this thread to object to people protesting for black rights and have then pointed out reasons you think that black people should accept extra police attention. If you’re not wanting to appear racist you’re not going about it the right way.

I'm against any one that threatens my way of life, my safety, my health. To say all lives matter isn't anything against all black life's matter but they are putting there selves before everyone else. To stand up and say black lives matter and I don't care if your live is effected, if your loved ones die as long as I can do what I want, it's my right. If that's racist in your eyes , so be it

White privilege exemplified. "

I give up, you can't argue with stupid. I could try but I'm sure you'll beat me with experience.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too.

So WE should protest online and you'll listen? Have you ever been a victim of racism. Ask us we know. The only difference is that the cops here don't have guns to be shooting and killing black people. Racism is not low in this country but then again you're ont on the receiving end so you wouldn't know how it feels.

The people that are already racist probably won't change, won't listen. If it was more frowned upon then it might make a difference. But to threaten everyone's lives will not have a positive effect. People that would stand against racism might not fight so hard to change the minds of the minority of racists. In the whole of the UK only a small proportion are racist. The rest of us don't deserve the backlash these protests can cause. To fight against the few, they are lashing out at the majority. That's the problem.

If you're not racist then you shouldn't be worried about the protests coz they're not directed at you.The number of racist people doesn't have to be high,even a few can do a lot of damage. I'm most of the cops in the US will tell you they're not racist and yet black people get gunned down by white cops. When you say THEIR cause or THEM when referring to black people it shows that you don't understand our struggle and thats why you suggest we should protest online

Protesting during a pandemic will effect me. Will effect alot of people. The lack of respect damaging the war memorial rubs me up the wrong way. You may be black and proud but I'm white and proud of what they solders done for us. To be able to live in one of the best countries in the world.

Remember, they have disrespected many soldiers of every colour and religion by defacing the war memorial. Those people fought for the freedoms we have today, black, white and every other bloody colour of there rainbow. Anything those protesters have done which may have been good has now been ruined by their actions for me.

Not all protesters are rioters. The two shouldn’t be confused.

Then they should have been stopped by the genuine protesters and made to see the error of their ways. I have 0 respect or time for people who do things like this.

Some of the rioters were maniacs and were armed. If I was protesting peacefully and they started I’m not sure I’d tackle them. Would you?

You could walk away and show no support. The protest demonstration had been done.

And I’m sure many did. It’s definitely not the peaceful protesters responsibility to tackle crazy rioters. I wouldn’t do it and neither would you. The rioters had their own agenda, likely nothing to do with race and some of them were white. "

And some of them weren't white. I don't care what colour that were, their actions were disrespectful.

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By *andy 1Couple
over a year ago

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I wonder y we dident go rioting when lee rigby had hes head cut off or after the Manchester bomeings

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

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"If there was no pandemic I wonder what other excuses the racists would use to berate the people protesting?

Without a pandemic the riots would be.

I didn't realise I was a racist because I'm white and stand against the protests and riots. Every day's a school day. I'm glad the fab experts have cleared that for me.

I’m fairly sure I’ve seen you post ‘white lives matter’ in another thread (forgive me if I’m wrong). So you might not consider yourself a racist, but the picture you’re portraying outwardly by posting things like that and objecting to the protests is that you don’t think black lives matter all that much. Either because now isn’t a very convenient time, or it’s important to you that we all remember about the white people too! There are endless resources being shared all over the place explaining how ill informed and unhelpful saying ‘white lives matter’ is, but you choose to say it anyway and you berate the protesters. So you might not consider yourself racist, but we only get to see what you put out there.

I said all lives matter. Because all lives are at stake in this pandemic. Everyone. What I can't understand is black people are hit harder and have had more deaths than white people. Yet they have no care for their lives or their loved ones. It baffles me. How can black life matter when they demonstrate they don't care? They'll protest regardless

Yes, sorry ‘all lives matter’, that’s what I meant. That’s inflammatory and is used as a way to squash ‘black lives matter’. It’s widely reported. So if you choose to use it, that’s your right but you can really then squirm at the suggestion of racism. You’ve used this thread to object to people protesting for black rights and have then pointed out reasons you think that black people should accept extra police attention. If you’re not wanting to appear racist you’re not going about it the right way.

I'm against any one that threatens my way of life, my safety, my health. To say all lives matter isn't anything against all black life's matter but they are putting there selves before everyone else. To stand up and say black lives matter and I don't care if your live is effected, if your loved ones die as long as I can do what I want, it's my right. If that's racist in your eyes , so be it "

I don’t know anyone who hasn’t broken the lockdown rules a couple of times at least to mix with someone they shouldn’t, or get a little bit closer than they should. Everyone takes risks which impact others. And the protesters weren’t just black. But you seem to focus on that. Maybe you’ve been posting about all the dickheads crammed onto the beaches and into the parks over the past few months too. I think you’re letting your bias and prejudice show, and like you said you’re against anything that threatens your way of life. You’re white, so black issues don’t matter to you. But I bet you’d be the first to be saying something and protesting if it was the other way round.

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over a year ago

I supported the BLM movement.

However, this has been going on for 400 years, to protest in the few months where a virus is rife, without keeping distance (mainly london, lots of others have) is just shocking.

The black community is one of the worst affected by this virus, so if you are protesting for BLM then stay at home and help save those lives rather than spread a deadly virus!

I am aware it was all triggered by george, hense the timing, but those killings sadly happen all the time, so now was NOT the right time. A few months ago yes, a few months time, yes. Not now.

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

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"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too.

So WE should protest online and you'll listen? Have you ever been a victim of racism. Ask us we know. The only difference is that the cops here don't have guns to be shooting and killing black people. Racism is not low in this country but then again you're ont on the receiving end so you wouldn't know how it feels.

The people that are already racist probably won't change, won't listen. If it was more frowned upon then it might make a difference. But to threaten everyone's lives will not have a positive effect. People that would stand against racism might not fight so hard to change the minds of the minority of racists. In the whole of the UK only a small proportion are racist. The rest of us don't deserve the backlash these protests can cause. To fight against the few, they are lashing out at the majority. That's the problem.

If you're not racist then you shouldn't be worried about the protests coz they're not directed at you.The number of racist people doesn't have to be high,even a few can do a lot of damage. I'm most of the cops in the US will tell you they're not racist and yet black people get gunned down by white cops. When you say THEIR cause or THEM when referring to black people it shows that you don't understand our struggle and thats why you suggest we should protest online

Protesting during a pandemic will effect me. Will effect alot of people. The lack of respect damaging the war memorial rubs me up the wrong way. You may be black and proud but I'm white and proud of what they solders done for us. To be able to live in one of the best countries in the world.

Remember, they have disrespected many soldiers of every colour and religion by defacing the war memorial. Those people fought for the freedoms we have today, black, white and every other bloody colour of there rainbow. Anything those protesters have done which may have been good has now been ruined by their actions for me.

Not all protesters are rioters. The two shouldn’t be confused.

Then they should have been stopped by the genuine protesters and made to see the error of their ways. I have 0 respect or time for people who do things like this.

Some of the rioters were maniacs and were armed. If I was protesting peacefully and they started I’m not sure I’d tackle them. Would you?

You could walk away and show no support. The protest demonstration had been done.

And I’m sure many did. It’s definitely not the peaceful protesters responsibility to tackle crazy rioters. I wouldn’t do it and neither would you. The rioters had their own agenda, likely nothing to do with race and some of them were white.

And some of them weren't white. I don't care what colour that were, their actions were disrespectful. "

I agree. But I haven’t seen anyone say that they support the rioters.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why were people saying hands up don't shoot yesterday during the protests? Didn't see any armed police

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

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"I wonder y we dident go rioting when lee rigby had hes head cut off or after the Manchester bomeings "

What would we riot against?

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over a year ago


"I wonder y we dident go rioting when lee rigby had hes head cut off or after the Manchester bomeings "

Typical right wing response.

Use a white victim to undermime 400 years of racial abuse is disgusting.

If you would happily be treated like most black people then raise your hand! No?

There is your answer.

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over a year ago


"I supported the BLM movement.

However, this has been going on for 400 years, to protest in the few months where a virus is rife, without keeping distance (mainly london, lots of others have) is just shocking.

The black community is one of the worst affected by this virus, so if you are protesting for BLM then stay at home and help save those lives rather than spread a deadly virus!

I am aware it was all triggered by george, hense the timing, but those killings sadly happen all the time, so now was NOT the right time. A few months ago yes, a few months time, yes. Not now."

Very well said x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This should be in the virus threads surely?

Wot she said innit bruv. "

I constantly see people insist on here that fab is for each member to use as they see fit...

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over a year ago


"Every one of you who went today..

Shame on you

I'm so sorry. I only wanted a Greggs, but a strange man handed me a billboard and I just got swept away in the aura. Honestly I had no idea that black people felt they should have the same rights as white folks. It was a real eye opener. And the steak bake was delicious. "

You know what had really pissed me of is that Greg's did a cheese and steak sausage roll and it was the greatest thing ever!!!!!! But they have stopped, now if ever there was something to riot about that is certainly it. #Steakandcheeserollmatters.

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over a year ago


"This should be in the virus threads surely?

Wot she said innit bruv.

I constantly see people insist on here that fab is for each member to use as they see fit..."

What has that got to do with it?

There are sections for different topics. It is not brain science, or are you just someone who likes to argue for the sheer sake of it

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

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"I supported the BLM movement.

However, this has been going on for 400 years, to protest in the few months where a virus is rife, without keeping distance (mainly london, lots of others have) is just shocking.

The black community is one of the worst affected by this virus, so if you are protesting for BLM then stay at home and help save those lives rather than spread a deadly virus!

I am aware it was all triggered by george, hense the timing, but those killings sadly happen all the time, so now was NOT the right time. A few months ago yes, a few months time, yes. Not now."

I get that. But I don’t think it’s for us (white) to decide when Black people feel like the right time is to stand up for themselves. Surely that’s part of the problem?

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over a year ago


"I supported the BLM movement.

However, this has been going on for 400 years, to protest in the few months where a virus is rife, without keeping distance (mainly london, lots of others have) is just shocking.

The black community is one of the worst affected by this virus, so if you are protesting for BLM then stay at home and help save those lives rather than spread a deadly virus!

I am aware it was all triggered by george, hense the timing, but those killings sadly happen all the time, so now was NOT the right time. A few months ago yes, a few months time, yes. Not now.

I get that. But I don’t think it’s for us (white) to decide when Black people feel like the right time is to stand up for themselves. Surely that’s part of the problem?"

It is when it affects us too, it affects the whole country. They (and that does not mean just black, it means everyone attending protests and riots atm) are putting me, my friends, my family, my children at risk. You cannot do that and expect me not to say they are wrong.

You have no idea on peoples, mine included, personal struggles at this time, and to see actions that will prolong this further, make it harder for me to put food on my table and me to visit my babies?

Well I am just as god damn angry.

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By *ivek68Man
over a year ago

york

Selfish wankers the lot of them

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

The real morons were the ones who attended the protests only to give them an excuse to assault police officers and vandalise. At the London protests yesterday 10 cops were injured and a policewoman was hospitalised when her horse bolted after idiots threw a bicycle at it.

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By *eatwaveMan
over a year ago

Barnet

Morning all

I created the previous thread about "all lives matter" which closed and didnt really get much of a chance to respond as the messages was flying in. Someone suggested "all lives matter" has been used by the far right, which if true i do apologies.

On reflection when i wrote that message i was super stressed about the conditions we have all been living in and reacted to the images on the news. The thread as a whole highlighted alot of under the carpet thoughts and also the ease someone will declare someone racist.

Anyone that denies racism excists in the uk is deluded and wrong, but also we must not declare all actions as racist. The multicultural, democratic and mix of people in london is amazing and we should be proud of our past and realise our mistakes of the past.

All colours have taken part in the protests, and i support the cause but everyone should have a geniune understanding of why some feel protesting in the current situation should stop as we have all lived through a painfull period, we are tentatively opening back up which is joyfull but also we hold alot of fear over the future.

Shall we draw a line and realise the death rate of this virus dwarths even ww2, some say 60000 lives since march and counting, not to mention the economic damage. Come on all, we are throwing out hundreads of deaths like confetti, this is the immediate problem we need to deal with. It should dwarth all our differences and push us all in the same direction.

Lets try and be kinder to each other, love to you all x

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over a year ago


"I supported the BLM movement.

However, this has been going on for 400 years, to protest in the few months where a virus is rife, without keeping distance (mainly london, lots of others have) is just shocking.

The black community is one of the worst affected by this virus, so if you are protesting for BLM then stay at home and help save those lives rather than spread a deadly virus!

I am aware it was all triggered by george, hense the timing, but those killings sadly happen all the time, so now was NOT the right time. A few months ago yes, a few months time, yes. Not now.

I get that. But I don’t think it’s for us (white) to decide when Black people feel like the right time is to stand up for themselves. Surely that’s part of the problem?

It is when it affects us too, it affects the whole country. They (and that does not mean just black, it means everyone attending protests and riots atm) are putting me, my friends, my family, my children at risk. You cannot do that and expect me not to say they are wrong.

You have no idea on peoples, mine included, personal struggles at this time, and to see actions that will prolong this further, make it harder for me to put food on my table and me to visit my babies?

Well I am just as god damn angry."

Also, it is not white saying when black should protest, it is anyone who wants this lockdown to end saying it. YOU profiled ME then, disregarding anything I had to say because MY skin colour

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By *ondonexplorerMan
over a year ago

Ascot

A great thread to determine who never to meet.

Centuries of oppression and discrimination

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a white police officer murdering a black man on the street

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Trump being an utter c*nt

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no condemnation from the UK government

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3 months of being locked-down (and the hypocracy of Cummings et al)

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A mostly peaceful demonstration and a few people expressing their anger, pain and frustration.

I am not condoning violent or destructive behaviour but I believe we should all try and understand why it is happening, and how we might feel if we were born with black or brown skin.

There is a lot of pain in our communities and it's so easy to sit behind a keyboard and pour scorn on people who's behaviour we don't agree with.

OP, where you see "morons" I see people suffering, and they need our help.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wonder y we dident go rioting when lee rigby had hes head cut off or after the Manchester bomeings "

That would be because the government is doing everything it can to combat terrorism. It is NOT doing everything it can to combat or even challenge racism or dare I say it sexism.

A working life representing staff informs me that the latter 2 are still rife and I've seen the personal damage that can do. Lost count of the number of very senior boardroom meetings I've attended where the majority were middle aged white men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Momentum and Jeramy Corbynites... if they do it again get the rubber bullets and hoses out.

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By *ob rodMan
over a year ago

lancaster

The problem is all a lot of people will see is mass gatherings in pandemic violence a dis order and a fear of spike in CV and deaths

The real meaning and the cause it the protests will be lost

The demonstrations will be remembered for the above not BLM

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There


"I supported the BLM movement.

However, this has been going on for 400 years, to protest in the few months where a virus is rife, without keeping distance (mainly london, lots of others have) is just shocking.

The black community is one of the worst affected by this virus, so if you are protesting for BLM then stay at home and help save those lives rather than spread a deadly virus!

I am aware it was all triggered by george, hense the timing, but those killings sadly happen all the time, so now was NOT the right time. A few months ago yes, a few months time, yes. Not now.

I get that. But I don’t think it’s for us (white) to decide when Black people feel like the right time is to stand up for themselves. Surely that’s part of the problem?

It is when it affects us too, it affects the whole country. They (and that does not mean just black, it means everyone attending protests and riots atm) are putting me, my friends, my family, my children at risk. You cannot do that and expect me not to say they are wrong.

You have no idea on peoples, mine included, personal struggles at this time, and to see actions that will prolong this further, make it harder for me to put food on my table and me to visit my babies?

Well I am just as god damn angry.

Also, it is not white saying when black should protest, it is anyone who wants this lockdown to end saying it. YOU profiled ME then, disregarding anything I had to say because MY skin colour"

No I didn’t profile you at all. You are a white person who posted in a forum when YOU thought Black people should protest to suit YOU. I commented on that, nothing more. It might not be convenient for you right now, but that’s not really the pertinent issue. People all over the country are breaking lockdown rules to suit themselves, it’s frustrating but the the protests are no worse than anything else.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"The problem is all a lot of people will see is mass gatherings in pandemic violence a dis order and a fear of spike in CV and deaths

The real meaning and the cause it the protests will be lost

The demonstrations will be remembered for the above not BLM"

Yep

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By *nB23Man
over a year ago

London


"

Sadly your viewpoint is part of the problem and not the solution.

Dare I ask what you consider to be the solution?"

Good question. I think the solution begins with acknowledging that we do have systemic inequalities based on skin colour. Ranging from law enforcement to educational opportunities.

Discussing it with each other and removing this sense of being uncomfortable about the subject. And introducing education and policies to make actual change.

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over a year ago


"I supported the BLM movement.

However, this has been going on for 400 years, to protest in the few months where a virus is rife, without keeping distance (mainly london, lots of others have) is just shocking.

The black community is one of the worst affected by this virus, so if you are protesting for BLM then stay at home and help save those lives rather than spread a deadly virus!

I am aware it was all triggered by george, hense the timing, but those killings sadly happen all the time, so now was NOT the right time. A few months ago yes, a few months time, yes. Not now.

I get that. But I don’t think it’s for us (white) to decide when Black people feel like the right time is to stand up for themselves. Surely that’s part of the problem?

It is when it affects us too, it affects the whole country. They (and that does not mean just black, it means everyone attending protests and riots atm) are putting me, my friends, my family, my children at risk. You cannot do that and expect me not to say they are wrong.

You have no idea on peoples, mine included, personal struggles at this time, and to see actions that will prolong this further, make it harder for me to put food on my table and me to visit my babies?

Well I am just as god damn angry.

Also, it is not white saying when black should protest, it is anyone who wants this lockdown to end saying it. YOU profiled ME then, disregarding anything I had to say because MY skin colour

No I didn’t profile you at all. You are a white person who posted in a forum when YOU thought Black people should protest to suit YOU. I commented on that, nothing more. It might not be convenient for you right now, but that’s not really the pertinent issue. People all over the country are breaking lockdown rules to suit themselves, it’s frustrating but the the protests are no worse than anything else. "

Breaking them for 1 on 1 probably once or twice, is hugely different to a mass gathering

It isnt just inconvenient for me, it is currently against the law and inconvenient for the whole damned country, every colour included.

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By *nB23Man
over a year ago

London


"The problem is all a lot of people will see is mass gatherings in pandemic violence a dis order and a fear of spike in CV and deaths

The real meaning and the cause it the protests will be lost

The demonstrations will be remembered for the above not BLM

Yep

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I sincerely hope not and believe the opposite. Hopefully folks will remember it in future as a first step to implement change.

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

bristol


"Two rights dont make a wrong same as two wrongs dont make a right..The mass protesting could of observed better social distancing and should of vandalism in any form is wrong....but notice from all those condemning the actions of the protest few if any are of the minorities..its easy to condemn others actions from your ivory towers but there is a time in everyones live when enough becomes enough. How many white people have entered a prefominantly none white area and felt uncomfortable from people just watching you to possible comments/remarks about you as you pass...imagine that on a daily basis. Imagine being stopped and questioned more regular because of your appearance. Even down to body language and the actions of those in authority. I have witnessed police in the uk stop people and when its been none whites they are more prone to have a hand on their baton, tazer Cs spray etc and this is the UK not America, such small actions are very intimidating without any other actions. Adults pulling children closer to them when a person of colour walking will walk close by..why does this happen ? I've been a witness to many small things like those mentioned...I can't imagine being the person who its aimed at and the feelings they generate within you..

George Floyed wasn't an upstanding member of the community. People react out of fear just like we do towards Muslims. Because of the behaviour/ reputation of some of them we are wary of them all. That's human nature. We voted out of Europe to try and stop imagration and terrorist slipping through the net. To keep ourselves safe from harm.

It's a fact that knife crime is high in black communitys So of coarse police are going to stop and check. That's not racist, that's precaution. People are only cautious through experience and facts. I saw something on TV about black youths going out to fight with other black youths just because they live in a different part of London. They are all carrying knifes and don't even know themselves why they are fighting, it's just the done thing. When dealing with that sort of mentality on a daily basis I can understand why the police treat them all as a potential threat till proven otherwise.

https://rmx.news/article/article/minneapolis-police-union-chief-george-floyd-had-a-criminal-history"

You're SPECIAL

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over a year ago


"I supported the BLM movement.

However, this has been going on for 400 years, to protest in the few months where a virus is rife, without keeping distance (mainly london, lots of others have) is just shocking.

The black community is one of the worst affected by this virus, so if you are protesting for BLM then stay at home and help save those lives rather than spread a deadly virus!

I am aware it was all triggered by george, hense the timing, but those killings sadly happen all the time, so now was NOT the right time. A few months ago yes, a few months time, yes. Not now.

I get that. But I don’t think it’s for us (white) to decide when Black people feel like the right time is to stand up for themselves. Surely that’s part of the problem?

It is when it affects us too, it affects the whole country. They (and that does not mean just black, it means everyone attending protests and riots atm) are putting me, my friends, my family, my children at risk. You cannot do that and expect me not to say they are wrong.

You have no idea on peoples, mine included, personal struggles at this time, and to see actions that will prolong this further, make it harder for me to put food on my table and me to visit my babies?

Well I am just as god damn angry.

Also, it is not white saying when black should protest, it is anyone who wants this lockdown to end saying it. YOU profiled ME then, disregarding anything I had to say because MY skin colour"

The only reason we are trying to do it now is to stop more people being killed and attacked everyday. The longer we wait the worse it is.

No one wants to protest now. It's very risky to say the least but that should show how important this is for these people. The virus will go away but racism won't until we stand against it.

Everyone who is protesting has made the choice to break rules to fight for something.

In regards to your post it is white people telling us not to protest, the rest of us know the issues are won't stand in the way but will decide if the risk of the virus is worth it.

You felt profiled? Imagine dealing with that every day, it's not always direct hate but it's always there

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By *nB23Man
over a year ago

London


"I supported the BLM movement.

However, this has been going on for 400 years, to protest in the few months where a virus is rife, without keeping distance (mainly london, lots of others have) is just shocking.

The black community is one of the worst affected by this virus, so if you are protesting for BLM then stay at home and help save those lives rather than spread a deadly virus!

I am aware it was all triggered by george, hense the timing, but those killings sadly happen all the time, so now was NOT the right time. A few months ago yes, a few months time, yes. Not now.

I get that. But I don’t think it’s for us (white) to decide when Black people feel like the right time is to stand up for themselves. Surely that’s part of the problem?

It is when it affects us too, it affects the whole country. They (and that does not mean just black, it means everyone attending protests and riots atm) are putting me, my friends, my family, my children at risk. You cannot do that and expect me not to say they are wrong.

You have no idea on peoples, mine included, personal struggles at this time, and to see actions that will prolong this further, make it harder for me to put food on my table and me to visit my babies?

Well I am just as god damn angry.

Also, it is not white saying when black should protest, it is anyone who wants this lockdown to end saying it. YOU profiled ME then, disregarding anything I had to say because MY skin colour

No I didn’t profile you at all. You are a white person who posted in a forum when YOU thought Black people should protest to suit YOU. I commented on that, nothing more. It might not be convenient for you right now, but that’s not really the pertinent issue. People all over the country are breaking lockdown rules to suit themselves, it’s frustrating but the the protests are no worse than anything else.

Breaking them for 1 on 1 probably once or twice, is hugely different to a mass gathering

It isnt just inconvenient for me, it is currently against the law and inconvenient for the whole damned country, every colour included."

I understand it's a tough time of course for everyone. But at the same time alot of people have felt opressed and never heard their voices heard for decades and not just facing a hardship for 3 months.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"The problem is all a lot of people will see is mass gatherings in pandemic violence a dis order and a fear of spike in CV and deaths

The real meaning and the cause it the protests will be lost

The demonstrations will be remembered for the above not BLM

Yep

I sincerely hope not and believe the opposite. Hopefully folks will remember it in future as a first step to implement change."

I have great fear of us going into full lockdown. I'm caring for 3 shielded family members, I've got them this far, they want to get back to moving about freely again, having been shut away for 10 weeks. Any mass gatherings aren't helping , whether it be Cheltenham, beaches or any protests. There are others here who have been forgotten...

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over a year ago


"I supported the BLM movement.

However, this has been going on for 400 years, to protest in the few months where a virus is rife, without keeping distance (mainly london, lots of others have) is just shocking.

The black community is one of the worst affected by this virus, so if you are protesting for BLM then stay at home and help save those lives rather than spread a deadly virus!

I am aware it was all triggered by george, hense the timing, but those killings sadly happen all the time, so now was NOT the right time. A few months ago yes, a few months time, yes. Not now.

I get that. But I don’t think it’s for us (white) to decide when Black people feel like the right time is to stand up for themselves. Surely that’s part of the problem?

It is when it affects us too, it affects the whole country. They (and that does not mean just black, it means everyone attending protests and riots atm) are putting me, my friends, my family, my children at risk. You cannot do that and expect me not to say they are wrong.

You have no idea on peoples, mine included, personal struggles at this time, and to see actions that will prolong this further, make it harder for me to put food on my table and me to visit my babies?

Well I am just as god damn angry.

Also, it is not white saying when black should protest, it is anyone who wants this lockdown to end saying it. YOU profiled ME then, disregarding anything I had to say because MY skin colour

No I didn’t profile you at all. You are a white person who posted in a forum when YOU thought Black people should protest to suit YOU. I commented on that, nothing more. It might not be convenient for you right now, but that’s not really the pertinent issue. People all over the country are breaking lockdown rules to suit themselves, it’s frustrating but the the protests are no worse than anything else.

Breaking them for 1 on 1 probably once or twice, is hugely different to a mass gathering

It isnt just inconvenient for me, it is currently against the law and inconvenient for the whole damned country, every colour included.

I understand it's a tough time of course for everyone. But at the same time alot of people have felt opressed and never heard their voices heard for decades and not just facing a hardship for 3 months. "

I am well aware of that, anyone who knows me or has seen my facebook or my instagram or even pictures I posted on here will see where I stand on understanding why they are protesting. I am not saying they should not protest. I am not saying it is not unfair. I am saying now is the worst time possible.

It is not just 3 months of hardship now either, nobody knows how long this will last. I know 2 people who have died, I know 15 others who got sick. This is not a race war for me, not in the slightest, it is a timing war and worrying for all those lives that will now be lost because of it.

Come back to me in 3 weeks and tell me the timing was right.

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By *rattylilfucktoyWoman
over a year ago

London

40, 000 deaths, flaunting of social distancing and people visiting places they clearly not local too (pre lockdown ease) and I guess let's just focus on the protesting of black lives matter.

Most protesters wore masks .. I didnt see that at the parks and beaches people visited during lockdown (especially before the new rules).

The black people dying during covid are the educated healthcare workers who put their life on the line to look after your family.

Their increased exposure to the virus and lack of PPE because of your anti EU/negligent government is why they are dying.

It is the same educated black/people of colour who face racism from you and your family.

So they matter. And let their plight be known.

You wouldnt have an NHS without black people/foreigners. The same NHS the Tories want to sell. I guess you can afford private healthcare?

I have watched many of my black colleagues, hit at, spat at, racism hurled at them.. and they continue to provide care for the same people.

Those same healthcare workers go home after their shift and have racist people on the street shout at them and whatever else.

Remember Windrush? What did you do for those british black people? Why should black people trust their voices will be heard without protesting?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This should be in the virus threads surely?

Wot she said innit bruv.

I constantly see people insist on here that fab is for each member to use as they see fit...

What has that got to do with it?

There are sections for different topics. It is not brain science, or are you just someone who likes to argue for the sheer sake of it "

Life's too short.

Either people make up their own rules or they don't.

Others don't get to pick and choose for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The problem is all a lot of people will see is mass gatherings in pandemic violence a dis order and a fear of spike in CV and deaths

The real meaning and the cause it the protests will be lost

The demonstrations will be remembered for the above not BLM"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As for the beach goers being used as an example by others. I know that every person I know that is upset with the protest timings was furious with beach goers. More so than the protesters. It made my piss boil!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This should be in the virus threads surely?

Wot she said innit bruv.

I constantly see people insist on here that fab is for each member to use as they see fit...

What has that got to do with it?

There are sections for different topics. It is not brain science, or are you just someone who likes to argue for the sheer sake of it

Life's too short.

Either people make up their own rules or they don't.

Others don't get to pick and choose for them."

Funny that, because it was moved to the virus section haha

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"As for the beach goers being used as an example by others. I know that every person I know that is upset with the protest timings was furious with beach goers. More so than the protesters. It made my piss boil!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every one of you who went today..

Shame on you

Agree entirely - and as for defacing a war memorial, well that will help their case won't it?! Arseholes!!!"

totally agree

and was saddened to read that some defaced a war memorial, can you tell me more in this please

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

Might be a daft question, but how many more protests are planned?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My new kink is reading the really serious threads on fab look for the really heated debate between a few people then look at pics of them with a cock in there arse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I supported the BLM movement.

However, this has been going on for 400 years, to protest in the few months where a virus is rife, without keeping distance (mainly london, lots of others have) is just shocking.

The black community is one of the worst affected by this virus, so if you are protesting for BLM then stay at home and help save those lives rather than spread a deadly virus!

I am aware it was all triggered by george, hense the timing, but those killings sadly happen all the time, so now was NOT the right time. A few months ago yes, a few months time, yes. Not now.

I get that. But I don’t think it’s for us (white) to decide when Black people feel like the right time is to stand up for themselves. Surely that’s part of the problem?

It is when it affects us too, it affects the whole country. They (and that does not mean just black, it means everyone attending protests and riots atm) are putting me, my friends, my family, my children at risk. You cannot do that and expect me not to say they are wrong.

You have no idea on peoples, mine included, personal struggles at this time, and to see actions that will prolong this further, make it harder for me to put food on my table and me to visit my babies?

Well I am just as god damn angry."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My new kink is reading the really serious threads on fab look for the really heated debate between a few people then look at pics of them with a cock in there arse."

Good luck with that here...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I supported the BLM movement.

However, this has been going on for 400 years, to protest in the few months where a virus is rife, without keeping distance (mainly london, lots of others have) is just shocking.

The black community is one of the worst affected by this virus, so if you are protesting for BLM then stay at home and help save those lives rather than spread a deadly virus!

I am aware it was all triggered by george, hense the timing, but those killings sadly happen all the time, so now was NOT the right time. A few months ago yes, a few months time, yes. Not now.

I get that. But I don’t think it’s for us (white) to decide when Black people feel like the right time is to stand up for themselves. Surely that’s part of the problem?

It is when it affects us too, it affects the whole country. They (and that does not mean just black, it means everyone attending protests and riots atm) are putting me, my friends, my family, my children at risk. You cannot do that and expect me not to say they are wrong.

You have no idea on peoples, mine included, personal struggles at this time, and to see actions that will prolong this further, make it harder for me to put food on my table and me to visit my babies?

Well I am just as god damn angry.

Also, it is not white saying when black should protest, it is anyone who wants this lockdown to end saying it. YOU profiled ME then, disregarding anything I had to say because MY skin colour

No I didn’t profile you at all. You are a white person who posted in a forum when YOU thought Black people should protest to suit YOU. I commented on that, nothing more. It might not be convenient for you right now, but that’s not really the pertinent issue. People all over the country are breaking lockdown rules to suit themselves, it’s frustrating but the the protests are no worse than anything else.

Breaking them for 1 on 1 probably once or twice, is hugely different to a mass gathering

It isnt just inconvenient for me, it is currently against the law and inconvenient for the whole damned country, every colour included.

I understand it's a tough time of course for everyone. But at the same time alot of people have felt opressed and never heard their voices heard for decades and not just facing a hardship for 3 months.

I am well aware of that, anyone who knows me or has seen my facebook or my instagram or even pictures I posted on here will see where I stand on understanding why they are protesting. I am not saying they should not protest. I am not saying it is not unfair. I am saying now is the worst time possible.

It is not just 3 months of hardship now either, nobody knows how long this will last. I know 2 people who have died, I know 15 others who got sick. This is not a race war for me, not in the slightest, it is a timing war and worrying for all those lives that will now be lost because of it.

Come back to me in 3 weeks and tell me the timing was right."

The timing is terrible.

It's like lockdown was a complete waste of time now.

I really hope it doesn't cause a second wave.

As I have only been back to work for 3 weeks now.

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

The only bit that cheered me up is that the horse that bolted made its own way back to the barracks.

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over a year ago


"My new kink is reading the really serious threads on fab look for the really heated debate between a few people then look at pics of them with a cock in there arse."

It's the easiest way to calm down if things get a bit heated haha. It's like how dare they say that I'm going to see who they are... Oh yeah it's that kind of site

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There


"I supported the BLM movement.

However, this has been going on for 400 years, to protest in the few months where a virus is rife, without keeping distance (mainly london, lots of others have) is just shocking.

The black community is one of the worst affected by this virus, so if you are protesting for BLM then stay at home and help save those lives rather than spread a deadly virus!

I am aware it was all triggered by george, hense the timing, but those killings sadly happen all the time, so now was NOT the right time. A few months ago yes, a few months time, yes. Not now.

I get that. But I don’t think it’s for us (white) to decide when Black people feel like the right time is to stand up for themselves. Surely that’s part of the problem?

It is when it affects us too, it affects the whole country. They (and that does not mean just black, it means everyone attending protests and riots atm) are putting me, my friends, my family, my children at risk. You cannot do that and expect me not to say they are wrong.

You have no idea on peoples, mine included, personal struggles at this time, and to see actions that will prolong this further, make it harder for me to put food on my table and me to visit my babies?

Well I am just as god damn angry.

Also, it is not white saying when black should protest, it is anyone who wants this lockdown to end saying it. YOU profiled ME then, disregarding anything I had to say because MY skin colour

No I didn’t profile you at all. You are a white person who posted in a forum when YOU thought Black people should protest to suit YOU. I commented on that, nothing more. It might not be convenient for you right now, but that’s not really the pertinent issue. People all over the country are breaking lockdown rules to suit themselves, it’s frustrating but the the protests are no worse than anything else.

Breaking them for 1 on 1 probably once or twice, is hugely different to a mass gathering

It isnt just inconvenient for me, it is currently against the law and inconvenient for the whole damned country, every colour included."

I get being cross with people breaking lockdown. But one on one is as bad. So unless you’re locked indoors and haven’t flouted a rule at all you don’t get to judge. I got really cross early on in lockdown when I saw the pictures of the parks and beaches, then I realised that to stop me going crazy being locked up by myself i’d gone to see my friend, so I’m no better. People risked their lives in the protests because it was important enough to them do it. You might risk yours by visiting a friend or something. One isn’t any worse than the other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My new kink is reading the really serious threads on fab look for the really heated debate between a few people then look at pics of them with a cock in there arse.

Good luck with that here... "

Haha don't worry I have deffinatly been checking your pics out just need to find the Insta account

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I supported the BLM movement.

However, this has been going on for 400 years, to protest in the few months where a virus is rife, without keeping distance (mainly london, lots of others have) is just shocking.

The black community is one of the worst affected by this virus, so if you are protesting for BLM then stay at home and help save those lives rather than spread a deadly virus!

I am aware it was all triggered by george, hense the timing, but those killings sadly happen all the time, so now was NOT the right time. A few months ago yes, a few months time, yes. Not now.

I get that. But I don’t think it’s for us (white) to decide when Black people feel like the right time is to stand up for themselves. Surely that’s part of the problem?

It is when it affects us too, it affects the whole country. They (and that does not mean just black, it means everyone attending protests and riots atm) are putting me, my friends, my family, my children at risk. You cannot do that and expect me not to say they are wrong.

You have no idea on peoples, mine included, personal struggles at this time, and to see actions that will prolong this further, make it harder for me to put food on my table and me to visit my babies?

Well I am just as god damn angry.

Also, it is not white saying when black should protest, it is anyone who wants this lockdown to end saying it. YOU profiled ME then, disregarding anything I had to say because MY skin colour

No I didn’t profile you at all. You are a white person who posted in a forum when YOU thought Black people should protest to suit YOU. I commented on that, nothing more. It might not be convenient for you right now, but that’s not really the pertinent issue. People all over the country are breaking lockdown rules to suit themselves, it’s frustrating but the the protests are no worse than anything else.

Breaking them for 1 on 1 probably once or twice, is hugely different to a mass gathering

It isnt just inconvenient for me, it is currently against the law and inconvenient for the whole damned country, every colour included.

I get being cross with people breaking lockdown. But one on one is as bad. So unless you’re locked indoors and haven’t flouted a rule at all you don’t get to judge. I got really cross early on in lockdown when I saw the pictures of the parks and beaches, then I realised that to stop me going crazy being locked up by myself i’d gone to see my friend, so I’m no better. People risked their lives in the protests because it was important enough to them do it. You might risk yours by visiting a friend or something. One isn’t any worse than the other. "

I have seen my children and that is all, and only been able to do so twice so.....

Also your logic is wrong, 1 person in contact with 1 person spreads alot slower than 1 person in contacts with hundereds at once.

We all know it is about slowing the virus.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My new kink is reading the really serious threads on fab look for the really heated debate between a few people then look at pics of them with a cock in there arse.

Good luck with that here...

Haha don't worry I have deffinatly been checking your pics out just need to find the Insta account "

Maybe before this, but my profile has been in hiding since yesterday, also, you will never catch me with pics of a cock up anywhere as I do not take those type

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So we are in a pandemic and morons demonstrate like sardines..

Old lives matter...

Bring it to your homes and tubes and buses..

Shame on you....

Selfish ...."

Ah well, maybe they just dont have any respect for the current government and decide to break the rules, I do wonder why

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How about everyone who wants to protest can BUT have to stay in a sectioned off part of London and cant leave for at least 2 weeks and before they are allowed to leave they have to be tested to make sure that they are covid 19 free.

How many people would agree to that?

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"How about everyone who wants to protest can BUT have to stay in a sectioned off part of London and cant leave for at least 2 weeks and before they are allowed to leave they have to be tested to make sure that they are covid 19 free.

How many people would agree to that? "

Hmmmm.....

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By *racy_JacksWoman
over a year ago

Derby


"I supported the BLM movement.

However, this has been going on for 400 years, to protest in the few months where a virus is rife, without keeping distance (mainly london, lots of others have) is just shocking.

The black community is one of the worst affected by this virus, so if you are protesting for BLM then stay at home and help save those lives rather than spread a deadly virus!

I am aware it was all triggered by george, hense the timing, but those killings sadly happen all the time, so now was NOT the right time. A few months ago yes, a few months time, yes. Not now.

I get that. But I don’t think it’s for us (white) to decide when Black people feel like the right time is to stand up for themselves. Surely that’s part of the problem?

It is when it affects us too, it affects the whole country. They (and that does not mean just black, it means everyone attending protests and riots atm) are putting me, my friends, my family, my children at risk. You cannot do that and expect me not to say they are wrong.

You have no idea on peoples, mine included, personal struggles at this time, and to see actions that will prolong this further, make it harder for me to put food on my table and me to visit my babies?

Well I am just as god damn angry.

Also, it is not white saying when black should protest, it is anyone who wants this lockdown to end saying it. YOU profiled ME then, disregarding anything I had to say because MY skin colour

No I didn’t profile you at all. You are a white person who posted in a forum when YOU thought Black people should protest to suit YOU. I commented on that, nothing more. It might not be convenient for you right now, but that’s not really the pertinent issue. People all over the country are breaking lockdown rules to suit themselves, it’s frustrating but the the protests are no worse than anything else.

Breaking them for 1 on 1 probably once or twice, is hugely different to a mass gathering

It isnt just inconvenient for me, it is currently against the law and inconvenient for the whole damned country, every colour included.

I get being cross with people breaking lockdown. But one on one is as bad. So unless you’re locked indoors and haven’t flouted a rule at all you don’t get to judge. I got really cross early on in lockdown when I saw the pictures of the parks and beaches, then I realised that to stop me going crazy being locked up by myself i’d gone to see my friend, so I’m no better. People risked their lives in the protests because it was important enough to them do it. You might risk yours by visiting a friend or something. One isn’t any worse than the other. "

No rule breaking is good, but claiming that one on one is just as bad is ridiculous.

As an example, let’s say that somebody broke the rules about having a friend in their garden before it was allowed. And the garden is accessible without going through the house. This can hardly be compared with these superspreader events which will undoubtedly cause a huge spike in cases.

Of course one is worse than the other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How about everyone who wants to protest can BUT have to stay in a sectioned off part of London and cant leave for at least 2 weeks and before they are allowed to leave they have to be tested to make sure that they are covid 19 free.

How many people would agree to that? "

Same should be said about anyone caught outside at beaches ect in large numbers, but were not showing that level of containment in this country. If I went to London to protest with that condition I'd still go

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"Every one of you who went today..

Shame on you

Have to agree lockdown down the pan.

What a waste of every body's time.

Might as well introduce fans back to football matches."

We’ve never had ‘lockdown’! People have done what they want and will continue to do so!

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By *arciocialWoman
over a year ago

Leicester


"Well, when there is an inevitable spike in covid cases it’ll give the far right some ammunition. Good job people. "

And I guess they'll just blame the black people? From the coverage I saw, show by the media, there was a wide variety of ethnicity and religion joining these protests.

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There


"I supported the BLM movement.

However, this has been going on for 400 years, to protest in the few months where a virus is rife, without keeping distance (mainly london, lots of others have) is just shocking.

The black community is one of the worst affected by this virus, so if you are protesting for BLM then stay at home and help save those lives rather than spread a deadly virus!

I am aware it was all triggered by george, hense the timing, but those killings sadly happen all the time, so now was NOT the right time. A few months ago yes, a few months time, yes. Not now.

I get that. But I don’t think it’s for us (white) to decide when Black people feel like the right time is to stand up for themselves. Surely that’s part of the problem?

It is when it affects us too, it affects the whole country. They (and that does not mean just black, it means everyone attending protests and riots atm) are putting me, my friends, my family, my children at risk. You cannot do that and expect me not to say they are wrong.

You have no idea on peoples, mine included, personal struggles at this time, and to see actions that will prolong this further, make it harder for me to put food on my table and me to visit my babies?

Well I am just as god damn angry.

Also, it is not white saying when black should protest, it is anyone who wants this lockdown to end saying it. YOU profiled ME then, disregarding anything I had to say because MY skin colour

No I didn’t profile you at all. You are a white person who posted in a forum when YOU thought Black people should protest to suit YOU. I commented on that, nothing more. It might not be convenient for you right now, but that’s not really the pertinent issue. People all over the country are breaking lockdown rules to suit themselves, it’s frustrating but the the protests are no worse than anything else.

Breaking them for 1 on 1 probably once or twice, is hugely different to a mass gathering

It isnt just inconvenient for me, it is currently against the law and inconvenient for the whole damned country, every colour included.

I get being cross with people breaking lockdown. But one on one is as bad. So unless you’re locked indoors and haven’t flouted a rule at all you don’t get to judge. I got really cross early on in lockdown when I saw the pictures of the parks and beaches, then I realised that to stop me going crazy being locked up by myself i’d gone to see my friend, so I’m no better. People risked their lives in the protests because it was important enough to them do it. You might risk yours by visiting a friend or something. One isn’t any worse than the other.

No rule breaking is good, but claiming that one on one is just as bad is ridiculous.

As an example, let’s say that somebody broke the rules about having a friend in their garden before it was allowed. And the garden is accessible without going through the house. This can hardly be compared with these superspreader events which will undoubtedly cause a huge spike in cases.

Of course one is worse than the other. "

That’s still social distancing. That’s not what I meant, sorry I don’t think I was clear.

I meant if you’ve gone to see a friend/family and got close to them etc. If you’re close enough pass it on to one it’s as bad as to many, to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I supported the BLM movement.

However, this has been going on for 400 years, to protest in the few months where a virus is rife, without keeping distance (mainly london, lots of others have) is just shocking.

The black community is one of the worst affected by this virus, so if you are protesting for BLM then stay at home and help save those lives rather than spread a deadly virus!

I am aware it was all triggered by george, hense the timing, but those killings sadly happen all the time, so now was NOT the right time. A few months ago yes, a few months time, yes. Not now.

I get that. But I don’t think it’s for us (white) to decide when Black people feel like the right time is to stand up for themselves. Surely that’s part of the problem?

It is when it affects us too, it affects the whole country. They (and that does not mean just black, it means everyone attending protests and riots atm) are putting me, my friends, my family, my children at risk. You cannot do that and expect me not to say they are wrong.

You have no idea on peoples, mine included, personal struggles at this time, and to see actions that will prolong this further, make it harder for me to put food on my table and me to visit my babies?

Well I am just as god damn angry.

Also, it is not white saying when black should protest, it is anyone who wants this lockdown to end saying it. YOU profiled ME then, disregarding anything I had to say because MY skin colour

No I didn’t profile you at all. You are a white person who posted in a forum when YOU thought Black people should protest to suit YOU. I commented on that, nothing more. It might not be convenient for you right now, but that’s not really the pertinent issue. People all over the country are breaking lockdown rules to suit themselves, it’s frustrating but the the protests are no worse than anything else.

Breaking them for 1 on 1 probably once or twice, is hugely different to a mass gathering

It isnt just inconvenient for me, it is currently against the law and inconvenient for the whole damned country, every colour included.

I get being cross with people breaking lockdown. But one on one is as bad. So unless you’re locked indoors and haven’t flouted a rule at all you don’t get to judge. I got really cross early on in lockdown when I saw the pictures of the parks and beaches, then I realised that to stop me going crazy being locked up by myself i’d gone to see my friend, so I’m no better. People risked their lives in the protests because it was important enough to them do it. You might risk yours by visiting a friend or something. One isn’t any worse than the other.

No rule breaking is good, but claiming that one on one is just as bad is ridiculous.

As an example, let’s say that somebody broke the rules about having a friend in their garden before it was allowed. And the garden is accessible without going through the house. This can hardly be compared with these superspreader events which will undoubtedly cause a huge spike in cases.

Of course one is worse than the other.

That’s still social distancing. That’s not what I meant, sorry I don’t think I was clear.

I meant if you’ve gone to see a friend/family and got close to them etc. If you’re close enough pass it on to one it’s as bad as to many, to me. "

Thousands of people packed like sardines is no where near the same as going to see one friend.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I supported the BLM movement.

However, this has been going on for 400 years, to protest in the few months where a virus is rife, without keeping distance (mainly london, lots of others have) is just shocking.

The black community is one of the worst affected by this virus, so if you are protesting for BLM then stay at home and help save those lives rather than spread a deadly virus!

I am aware it was all triggered by george, hense the timing, but those killings sadly happen all the time, so now was NOT the right time. A few months ago yes, a few months time, yes. Not now.

I get that. But I don’t think it’s for us (white) to decide when Black people feel like the right time is to stand up for themselves. Surely that’s part of the problem?

It is when it affects us too, it affects the whole country. They (and that does not mean just black, it means everyone attending protests and riots atm) are putting me, my friends, my family, my children at risk. You cannot do that and expect me not to say they are wrong.

You have no idea on peoples, mine included, personal struggles at this time, and to see actions that will prolong this further, make it harder for me to put food on my table and me to visit my babies?

Well I am just as god damn angry.

Also, it is not white saying when black should protest, it is anyone who wants this lockdown to end saying it. YOU profiled ME then, disregarding anything I had to say because MY skin colour

No I didn’t profile you at all. You are a white person who posted in a forum when YOU thought Black people should protest to suit YOU. I commented on that, nothing more. It might not be convenient for you right now, but that’s not really the pertinent issue. People all over the country are breaking lockdown rules to suit themselves, it’s frustrating but the the protests are no worse than anything else.

Breaking them for 1 on 1 probably once or twice, is hugely different to a mass gathering

It isnt just inconvenient for me, it is currently against the law and inconvenient for the whole damned country, every colour included.

I get being cross with people breaking lockdown. But one on one is as bad. So unless you’re locked indoors and haven’t flouted a rule at all you don’t get to judge. I got really cross early on in lockdown when I saw the pictures of the parks and beaches, then I realised that to stop me going crazy being locked up by myself i’d gone to see my friend, so I’m no better. People risked their lives in the protests because it was important enough to them do it. You might risk yours by visiting a friend or something. One isn’t any worse than the other.

No rule breaking is good, but claiming that one on one is just as bad is ridiculous.

As an example, let’s say that somebody broke the rules about having a friend in their garden before it was allowed. And the garden is accessible without going through the house. This can hardly be compared with these superspreader events which will undoubtedly cause a huge spike in cases.

Of course one is worse than the other.

That’s still social distancing. That’s not what I meant, sorry I don’t think I was clear.

I meant if you’ve gone to see a friend/family and got close to them etc. If you’re close enough pass it on to one it’s as bad as to many, to me. "

I dont get your logic?

1 person is infected....they see 1 other....that person sees another....yes, it is bad, it spreads it.

Now. That 1 person goes to a busy event of any kind, that 1 person is in contact with 100 people, every single one of those 100 is in contact with another 100. Can you see where this is going?

In 1 day you have infected 1 person, in comparison to thousands....

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

They are now talking about local lockdowns, I wonder where they will be...

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over a year ago


"They are now talking about local lockdowns, I wonder where they will be..."

I hope they do.

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over a year ago


"I supported the BLM movement.

However, this has been going on for 400 years, to protest in the few months where a virus is rife, without keeping distance (mainly london, lots of others have) is just shocking.

The black community is one of the worst affected by this virus, so if you are protesting for BLM then stay at home and help save those lives rather than spread a deadly virus!

I am aware it was all triggered by george, hense the timing, but those killings sadly happen all the time, so now was NOT the right time. A few months ago yes, a few months time, yes. Not now.

I get that. But I don’t think it’s for us (white) to decide when Black people feel like the right time is to stand up for themselves. Surely that’s part of the problem?

It is when it affects us too, it affects the whole country. They (and that does not mean just black, it means everyone attending protests and riots atm) are putting me, my friends, my family, my children at risk. You cannot do that and expect me not to say they are wrong.

You have no idea on peoples, mine included, personal struggles at this time, and to see actions that will prolong this further, make it harder for me to put food on my table and me to visit my babies?

Well I am just as god damn angry.

Also, it is not white saying when black should protest, it is anyone who wants this lockdown to end saying it. YOU profiled ME then, disregarding anything I had to say because MY skin colour

No I didn’t profile you at all. You are a white person who posted in a forum when YOU thought Black people should protest to suit YOU. I commented on that, nothing more. It might not be convenient for you right now, but that’s not really the pertinent issue. People all over the country are breaking lockdown rules to suit themselves, it’s frustrating but the the protests are no worse than anything else.

Breaking them for 1 on 1 probably once or twice, is hugely different to a mass gathering

It isnt just inconvenient for me, it is currently against the law and inconvenient for the whole damned country, every colour included.

I get being cross with people breaking lockdown. But one on one is as bad. So unless you’re locked indoors and haven’t flouted a rule at all you don’t get to judge. I got really cross early on in lockdown when I saw the pictures of the parks and beaches, then I realised that to stop me going crazy being locked up by myself i’d gone to see my friend, so I’m no better. People risked their lives in the protests because it was important enough to them do it. You might risk yours by visiting a friend or something. One isn’t any worse than the other.

No rule breaking is good, but claiming that one on one is just as bad is ridiculous.

As an example, let’s say that somebody broke the rules about having a friend in their garden before it was allowed. And the garden is accessible without going through the house. This can hardly be compared with these superspreader events which will undoubtedly cause a huge spike in cases.

Of course one is worse than the other.

That’s still social distancing. That’s not what I meant, sorry I don’t think I was clear.

I meant if you’ve gone to see a friend/family and got close to them etc. If you’re close enough pass it on to one it’s as bad as to many, to me.

I dont get your logic?

1 person is infected....they see 1 other....that person sees another....yes, it is bad, it spreads it.

Now. That 1 person goes to a busy event of any kind, that 1 person is in contact with 100 people, every single one of those 100 is in contact with another 100. Can you see where this is going?

In 1 day you have infected 1 person, in comparison to thousands...."

Most of the protestors were wearing masks, there were probably less protestors in London than those who currently have to use the tube on a daily basis. The government have lost respect and people are less likely to follow ‘the rules ‘ . I wouldn’t have gone to the protests but I can see why people did .

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The mind boggles with the majority of other humans

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"They are now talking about local lockdowns, I wonder where they will be...

I hope they do."

I don't suppose all will abide by it, so what is the point. As I said above, I'm caring for 3 shielded family members, who have been shut away for weeks. They're all saying what is the point, we're going to end up back at square one anyway..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

These demonstrations are covid bombs

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"These demonstrations are covid bombs"

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By *ebwizMan
over a year ago

Clevedon

Yes I watched the video on Floyd George. Yes it was wrong and hopefully the courts do the right thing. However the man had a bad rap sheet Inc aggravated armed burglary. No one would protest about the man specifically. I feel that this is an American problem for them to deal with. We have our problems here as someone said black gangs with knives fighting in London. Modern youth as a different take on life and what's right and wrong. I genuinely have no answers has to how to fix it, even growing up in West mids with black kids at my school.tensions were apparent then in the late 70s early 80s.as for the protesting, was a disregard to all lives that we have been trying to protect, NHS workers etc, so we could get back to some sort of normal. This may or not be a setback. Generally my view over the years is humans whatever colour or race seem to struggle to co habit close together.

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over a year ago

If they had upheld the law it would have made the police even more racist lol can you imagine the. Stats at the end of the year lol

Just so people know, more white people die in USA in police incidents, then black then Latino.

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"If they had upheld the law it would have made the police even more racist lol can you imagine the. Stats at the end of the year lol

Just so people know, more white people die in USA in police incidents, then black then Latino. "

What is your point?

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"If they had upheld the law it would have made the police even more racist lol can you imagine the. Stats at the end of the year lol

Just so people know, more white people die in USA in police incidents, then black then Latino. "

That is an ignorant statistic. There are more white people thats why.

Go look at the ratio of deaths per ethnicity.

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"If they had upheld the law it would have made the police even more racist lol can you imagine the. Stats at the end of the year lol

Just so people know, more white people die in USA in police incidents, then black then Latino.

That is an ignorant statistic. There are more white people thats why.

Go look at the ratio of deaths per ethnicity."

It's still a statistic, after arrest 42 percent white, 32 black 20 Latino my point being its not as straight forward as a lot of people seem to be claiming, old lives matter as well !

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"Yes I watched the video on Floyd George. Yes it was wrong and hopefully the courts do the right thing. However the man had a bad rap sheet Inc aggravated armed burglary. No one would protest about the man specifically. I feel that this is an American problem for them to deal with. We have our problems here as someone said black gangs with knives fighting in London. Modern youth as a different take on life and what's right and wrong. I genuinely have no answers has to how to fix it, even growing up in West mids with black kids at my school.tensions were apparent then in the late 70s early 80s.as for the protesting, was a disregard to all lives that we have been trying to protect, NHS workers etc, so we could get back to some sort of normal. This may or not be a setback. Generally my view over the years is humans whatever colour or race seem to struggle to co habit close together. "
Yes, whilst it was wrong. I wonder how many knew floyds background? I didnt see the media report it during that time it happen there.

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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago

birmingham


"Well, when there is an inevitable spike in covid cases it’ll give the far right some ammunition. Good job people. "

If they're is a second spike then we won't be able to unlock for many months

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By *moothdickMan
over a year ago

stoke

This lot have let all the health workers die in vain.. obviously the protesters think the health workers and the rest of us, life’s don’t matter ...

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over a year ago


"If they had upheld the law it would have made the police even more racist lol can you imagine the. Stats at the end of the year lol

Just so people know, more white people die in USA in police incidents, then black then Latino. "

Black people only make up 12% of the population. They die at higher numbers on average

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"Yes I watched the video on Floyd George. Yes it was wrong and hopefully the courts do the right thing. However the man had a bad rap sheet Inc aggravated armed burglary. No one would protest about the man specifically. I feel that this is an American problem for them to deal with. We have our problems here as someone said black gangs with knives fighting in London. Modern youth as a different take on life and what's right and wrong. I genuinely have no answers has to how to fix it, even growing up in West mids with black kids at my school.tensions were apparent then in the late 70s early 80s.as for the protesting, was a disregard to all lives that we have been trying to protect, NHS workers etc, so we could get back to some sort of normal. This may or not be a setback. Generally my view over the years is humans whatever colour or race seem to struggle to co habit close together. Yes, whilst it was wrong. I wonder how many knew floyds background? I didnt see the media report it during that time it happen there."

Because it was years before so irrelevant to the situation. He had been living a honest life for many years without any trouble

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

bristol


"If they had upheld the law it would have made the police even more racist lol can you imagine the. Stats at the end of the year lol

Just so people know, more white people die in USA in police incidents, then black then Latino. "

You should do your research before posting such crap at such a time. White people make up 76.5% of the population and Black people 13.4% . So if you know math you'll understand that if 10% of each race are killed by the police ,the number of White people killed will be much greater coz there are more Whites than Blacks and Hispanics combined

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"If they had upheld the law it would have made the police even more racist lol can you imagine the. Stats at the end of the year lol

Just so people know, more white people die in USA in police incidents, then black then Latino.

Black people only make up 12% of the population. They die at higher numbers on average"

Deaths by police shooting in 2019.

White - 370

Black - 235

White people in america - 72%

Black people in america - 12%

Il let others do the rest of the math

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"If they had upheld the law it would have made the police even more racist lol can you imagine the. Stats at the end of the year lol

Just so people know, more white people die in USA in police incidents, then black then Latino.

Black people only make up 12% of the population. They die at higher numbers on average"

Yes I know, but they've just had a black president, and I'm guessing he had all the info and nothing changed, I wonder why? Why couldn't he change it? im suggesting there are a lot of issues being conveniently ignored ! Like protesting that lives matter while ignoring that lives matter lol

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By *moothdickMan
over a year ago

stoke


"Yes I watched the video on Floyd George. Yes it was wrong and hopefully the courts do the right thing. However the man had a bad rap sheet Inc aggravated armed burglary. No one would protest about the man specifically. I feel that this is an American problem for them to deal with. We have our problems here as someone said black gangs with knives fighting in London. Modern youth as a different take on life and what's right and wrong. I genuinely have no answers has to how to fix it, even growing up in West mids with black kids at my school.tensions were apparent then in the late 70s early 80s.as for the protesting, was a disregard to all lives that we have been trying to protect, NHS workers etc, so we could get back to some sort of normal. This may or not be a setback. Generally my view over the years is humans whatever colour or race seem to struggle to co habit close together. Yes, whilst it was wrong. I wonder how many knew floyds background? I didnt see the media report it during that time it happen there.

Because it was years before so irrelevant to the situation. He had been living a honest life for many years without any trouble"

So on the day of the incident, he was handling fake 20$ bills .. irrelevant and honest .. hope the justice system works .. in this case and all others, irrelevant of skin colour ... what next, free rise west, cuz she’s been ever so good for the last years of her life .. justice matters

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

bristol


"Yes I watched the video on Floyd George. Yes it was wrong and hopefully the courts do the right thing. However the man had a bad rap sheet Inc aggravated armed burglary. No one would protest about the man specifically. I feel that this is an American problem for them to deal with. We have our problems here as someone said black gangs with knives fighting in London. Modern youth as a different take on life and what's right and wrong. I genuinely have no answers has to how to fix it, even growing up in West mids with black kids at my school.tensions were apparent then in the late 70s early 80s.as for the protesting, was a disregard to all lives that we have been trying to protect, NHS workers etc, so we could get back to some sort of normal. This may or not be a setback. Generally my view over the years is humans whatever colour or race seem to struggle to co habit close together. "

This is the kind of ignorance that makes people think it's acceptable to kill an innocent man. Let me breaking down for you. They've tried everything to justify the killing of George Floyd first it was his history then it wa the underlying health conditions that contributed to his death and then it was coz he had tested positive for Covid-19 so that contributed to his death. Get your fact right dude. His past does not mean he deserved to be killed like an animal

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too.

Ahhhh the joy of white privilege. That's why people are protesting, to demonstrate exactly that there still is systemic and institutional racism. Sadly your viewpoint is part of the problem and not the solution. "

The term white privilege does not really help at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We're back to banging a drum, who is this they? You've just ignored the black president, the most powerful man in the world at that time and the result was........

Americas ethnic population is not distributed evenly!

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too.

So WE should protest online and you'll listen? Have you ever been a victim of racism. Ask us we know. The only difference is that the cops here don't have guns to be shooting and killing black people. Racism is not low in this country but then again you're ont on the receiving end so you wouldn't know how it feels.

The people that are already racist probably won't change, won't listen. If it was more frowned upon then it might make a difference. But to threaten everyone's lives will not have a positive effect. People that would stand against racism might not fight so hard to change the minds of the minority of racists. In the whole of the UK only a small proportion are racist. The rest of us don't deserve the backlash these protests can cause. To fight against the few, they are lashing out at the majority. That's the problem.

If you're not racist then you shouldn't be worried about the protests coz they're not directed at you.The number of racist people doesn't have to be high,even a few can do a lot of damage. I'm most of the cops in the US will tell you they're not racist and yet black people get gunned down by white cops. When you say THEIR cause or THEM when referring to black people it shows that you don't understand our struggle and thats why you suggest we should protest online

Protesting during a pandemic will effect me. Will effect alot of people. The lack of respect damaging the war memorial rubs me up the wrong way. You may be black and proud but I'm white and proud of what they solders done for us. To be able to live in one of the best countries in the world. "

Not all of the soldiers were white.

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over a year ago

Everyone will think what they want, but there isn't just the one group of people with closed minds here

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over a year ago

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"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too.

So WE should protest online and you'll listen? Have you ever been a victim of racism. Ask us we know. The only difference is that the cops here don't have guns to be shooting and killing black people. Racism is not low in this country but then again you're ont on the receiving end so you wouldn't know how it feels.

The people that are already racist probably won't change, won't listen. If it was more frowned upon then it might make a difference. But to threaten everyone's lives will not have a positive effect. People that would stand against racism might not fight so hard to change the minds of the minority of racists. In the whole of the UK only a small proportion are racist. The rest of us don't deserve the backlash these protests can cause. To fight against the few, they are lashing out at the majority. That's the problem.

If you're not racist then you shouldn't be worried about the protests coz they're not directed at you.The number of racist people doesn't have to be high,even a few can do a lot of damage. I'm most of the cops in the US will tell you they're not racist and yet black people get gunned down by white cops. When you say THEIR cause or THEM when referring to black people it shows that you don't understand our struggle and thats why you suggest we should protest online"

These arnt protests, these are mindless thugs and acts of violence. We all agree racism should be dealt with, we all agree that ALL lives matter not just black, mixed race etc etc... These last few days have seen wanton acts of destruction, defacing, looting, mugging, and violence. I'm all for stamping out racism, I don't get racism as my friends are all from different walks of life. But watch what's been happening, look who's at the front of all thata been going on... Take your anger out of those who say we are protesting about the issue, then look at them wantonly demonstrate thuggery, violence, destruction and see what the problem is... The problem lies within the black community and everyone else is joining in or using these so called protests as a reason to engage in mindless acts of violence. Black guys at the front of the queues to cause problems. Why deface a war monument? Why destroy a car dealership? What had those two things done towards racism? Protest yes, but even Floyd's family said peaceful protests please. What's going or gone on is just a sign of the generation of today. What's going on does not add fuel to the cause its causing more rifts and hatred towards anything that could have been seen as constructive. No black lives don't matter, its ALL LIVES MATTER.

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There


"I supported the BLM movement.

However, this has been going on for 400 years, to protest in the few months where a virus is rife, without keeping distance (mainly london, lots of others have) is just shocking.

The black community is one of the worst affected by this virus, so if you are protesting for BLM then stay at home and help save those lives rather than spread a deadly virus!

I am aware it was all triggered by george, hense the timing, but those killings sadly happen all the time, so now was NOT the right time. A few months ago yes, a few months time, yes. Not now.

I get that. But I don’t think it’s for us (white) to decide when Black people feel like the right time is to stand up for themselves. Surely that’s part of the problem?

It is when it affects us too, it affects the whole country. They (and that does not mean just black, it means everyone attending protests and riots atm) are putting me, my friends, my family, my children at risk. You cannot do that and expect me not to say they are wrong.

You have no idea on peoples, mine included, personal struggles at this time, and to see actions that will prolong this further, make it harder for me to put food on my table and me to visit my babies?

Well I am just as god damn angry.

Also, it is not white saying when black should protest, it is anyone who wants this lockdown to end saying it. YOU profiled ME then, disregarding anything I had to say because MY skin colour

No I didn’t profile you at all. You are a white person who posted in a forum when YOU thought Black people should protest to suit YOU. I commented on that, nothing more. It might not be convenient for you right now, but that’s not really the pertinent issue. People all over the country are breaking lockdown rules to suit themselves, it’s frustrating but the the protests are no worse than anything else.

Breaking them for 1 on 1 probably once or twice, is hugely different to a mass gathering

It isnt just inconvenient for me, it is currently against the law and inconvenient for the whole damned country, every colour included.

I get being cross with people breaking lockdown. But one on one is as bad. So unless you’re locked indoors and haven’t flouted a rule at all you don’t get to judge. I got really cross early on in lockdown when I saw the pictures of the parks and beaches, then I realised that to stop me going crazy being locked up by myself i’d gone to see my friend, so I’m no better. People risked their lives in the protests because it was important enough to them do it. You might risk yours by visiting a friend or something. One isn’t any worse than the other.

No rule breaking is good, but claiming that one on one is just as bad is ridiculous.

As an example, let’s say that somebody broke the rules about having a friend in their garden before it was allowed. And the garden is accessible without going through the house. This can hardly be compared with these superspreader events which will undoubtedly cause a huge spike in cases.

Of course one is worse than the other.

That’s still social distancing. That’s not what I meant, sorry I don’t think I was clear.

I meant if you’ve gone to see a friend/family and got close to them etc. If you’re close enough pass it on to one it’s as bad as to many, to me.

I dont get your logic?

1 person is infected....they see 1 other....that person sees another....yes, it is bad, it spreads it.

Now. That 1 person goes to a busy event of any kind, that 1 person is in contact with 100 people, every single one of those 100 is in contact with another 100. Can you see where this is going?

In 1 day you have infected 1 person, in comparison to thousands...."

I understand all that. I just think that if you’re going to mix when you’ve been asked not to then it’s bad.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"Everyone will think what they want, but there isn't just the one group of people with closed minds here "

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Yes I watched the video on Floyd George. Yes it was wrong and hopefully the courts do the right thing. However the man had a bad rap sheet Inc aggravated armed burglary. No one would protest about the man specifically. I feel that this is an American problem for them to deal with. We have our problems here as someone said black gangs with knives fighting in London. Modern youth as a different take on life and what's right and wrong. I genuinely have no answers has to how to fix it, even growing up in West mids with black kids at my school.tensions were apparent then in the late 70s early 80s.as for the protesting, was a disregard to all lives that we have been trying to protect, NHS workers etc, so we could get back to some sort of normal. This may or not be a setback. Generally my view over the years is humans whatever colour or race seem to struggle to co habit close together. Yes, whilst it was wrong. I wonder how many knew floyds background? I didnt see the media report it during that time it happen there.

Because it was years before so irrelevant to the situation. He had been living a honest life for many years without any trouble

So on the day of the incident, he was handling fake 20$ bills .. irrelevant and honest .. hope the justice system works .. in this case and all others, irrelevant of skin colour ... what next, free rise west, cuz she’s been ever so good for the last years of her life .. justice matters "

I didnt realise they executed people for passing bad checks.

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"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too.

So WE should protest online and you'll listen? Have you ever been a victim of racism. Ask us we know. The only difference is that the cops here don't have guns to be shooting and killing black people. Racism is not low in this country but then again you're ont on the receiving end so you wouldn't know how it feels.

The people that are already racist probably won't change, won't listen. If it was more frowned upon then it might make a difference. But to threaten everyone's lives will not have a positive effect. People that would stand against racism might not fight so hard to change the minds of the minority of racists. In the whole of the UK only a small proportion are racist. The rest of us don't deserve the backlash these protests can cause. To fight against the few, they are lashing out at the majority. That's the problem.

If you're not racist then you shouldn't be worried about the protests coz they're not directed at you.The number of racist people doesn't have to be high,even a few can do a lot of damage. I'm most of the cops in the US will tell you they're not racist and yet black people get gunned down by white cops. When you say THEIR cause or THEM when referring to black people it shows that you don't understand our struggle and thats why you suggest we should protest online

These arnt protests, these are mindless thugs and acts of violence. We all agree racism should be dealt with, we all agree that ALL lives matter not just black, mixed race etc etc... These last few days have seen wanton acts of destruction, defacing, looting, mugging, and violence. I'm all for stamping out racism, I don't get racism as my friends are all from different walks of life. But watch what's been happening, look who's at the front of all thata been going on... Take your anger out of those who say we are protesting about the issue, then look at them wantonly demonstrate thuggery, violence, destruction and see what the problem is... The problem lies within the black community and everyone else is joining in or using these so called protests as a reason to engage in mindless acts of violence. Black guys at the front of the queues to cause problems. Why deface a war monument? Why destroy a car dealership? What had those two things done towards racism? Protest yes, but even Floyd's family said peaceful protests please. What's going or gone on is just a sign of the generation of today. What's going on does not add fuel to the cause its causing more rifts and hatred towards anything that could have been seen as constructive. No black lives don't matter, its ALL LIVES MATTER. "

Unfortunately you're proving exactly why we need to protest. There is violence, looting and chaos but it is a minority. People focus on the negatives to take away from the issues. You say you don't understand racism so you should ask your friends about it. The issues don't lay with individuals, it's a underlying issue within society. I disagree with anyone defacing a war monument and there is no excuse that should be used to defend their actions in that account but saying it's all black people is so wrong. The violence and destruction is coming from people of all races. We have tried peaceful protests many times and nothing has changed so we just keep doing the same?

You say it's a sign of the generation but what about stonewall riots and the suffragettes? They only succeeded due to proceeding to violence. If you're going to criticize you should look into the facts and try to understand.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


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These arnt protests, these are mindless thugs and acts of violence. We all agree racism should be dealt with, we all agree that ALL lives matter not just black, mixed race etc etc. "

You must be seeing something different to me, the overwhelming number of protestors are doing so peacefully.

We all agree racism should be dealt with, but it isn't is it, otherwise a culture wouldn't exist that effectively enables the public execution of citizens by law enforcement officers.

All lives matter, but it appears some seem to matter less than others.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"will provoke more racism. "

Yes, amongst people like me!

I experienced racism growing up as a child and I will be forever grateful as it galvanised my sisters and I.

We did pretty well for ourselves, on paper we're all millionaires, all university educated and life's pretty good. All our children are university educated and whilst I've remained in London my sisters live on Windsor, Leeds and Milan.

By hard work and not accepting "our place" we achieved what we wanted. We all have white partners, my sister in Leeds and I our first husbands were black. I have three son in laws; on black, one Asian and one white.

We are a happy, diverse family and family gatherings do look like a Benneton ad.

I don't see white people as the enemy, I share my life with one. I can walk down the street without a care in the world. I'm not afraid of my white neighbours, and I can walk down any street in this country without being shot by the member of the public for no other reason than they didn't think I belonged there and they were scared.

I honestly didn't realise how bad things were in America. Yes I'd heard of Rodney King but thought he must have done something. The "sparodic" reports I dismissed. The inequality of how white and blacks are treated I've shrugged away as "normal"...white man has the power right?

For me, and for many like me George Floyds death, captured for all to see bought the stark truth to us: black people don't matter. All the other injustices allowed to go unchallenged just came to the fore.

I remembered Dylan Roof, a white man who walked into a black church and shot dead 19 people, including a state senator. On the way to jail he said he was hungry and the arresting officers stopped off at Burger King to buy him a meal. George Floyd allegedly passed a $20 bill and didn't even make it to lock up. Died on the pavement, hands behind his back.

That is the injustice. That is what is making black people angry. What happens in America soon finds its way to these shores.

I don't want my grandchildren growing up in a world they are seen as nothing because of the colour of their skin.

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

bristol


"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too.

So WE should protest online and you'll listen? Have you ever been a victim of racism. Ask us we know. The only difference is that the cops here don't have guns to be shooting and killing black people. Racism is not low in this country but then again you're ont on the receiving end so you wouldn't know how it feels.

The people that are already racist probably won't change, won't listen. If it was more frowned upon then it might make a difference. But to threaten everyone's lives will not have a positive effect. People that would stand against racism might not fight so hard to change the minds of the minority of racists. In the whole of the UK only a small proportion are racist. The rest of us don't deserve the backlash these protests can cause. To fight against the few, they are lashing out at the majority. That's the problem.

If you're not racist then you shouldn't be worried about the protests coz they're not directed at you.The number of racist people doesn't have to be high,even a few can do a lot of damage. I'm most of the cops in the US will tell you they're not racist and yet black people get gunned down by white cops. When you say THEIR cause or THEM when referring to black people it shows that you don't understand our struggle and thats why you suggest we should protest online

These arnt protests, these are mindless thugs and acts of violence. We all agree racism should be dealt with, we all agree that ALL lives matter not just black, mixed race etc etc... These last few days have seen wanton acts of destruction, defacing, looting, mugging, and violence. I'm all for stamping out racism, I don't get racism as my friends are all from different walks of life. But watch what's been happening, look who's at the front of all thata been going on... Take your anger out of those who say we are protesting about the issue, then look at them wantonly demonstrate thuggery, violence, destruction and see what the problem is... The problem lies within the black community and everyone else is joining in or using these so called protests as a reason to engage in mindless acts of violence. Black guys at the front of the queues to cause problems. Why deface a war monument? Why destroy a car dealership? What had those two things done towards racism? Protest yes, but even Floyd's family said peaceful protests please. What's going or gone on is just a sign of the generation of today. What's going on does not add fuel to the cause its causing more rifts and hatred towards anything that could have been seen as constructive. No black lives don't matter, its ALL LIVES MATTER. "

Read the damn slogan. It doesn't say ONLY BLACK LIVES MATER

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By *extus1951Man
over a year ago

Shrewsbury

I am white and the victim of racist behaviour when the parents of the girl I wished to marry refused consent because of my skin colour and despite her wanting to marry me. It still hurts 40 years on, when I think about it, but I move on...

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By *kstallionMan
over a year ago

milton keynes

Mr Floyd's death was truly horrific and we should all be very concerned.

Problem is the protests could easily cause a spike in infections and lead to more deaths. It may not be the actual protesters who die of course but others they pass it onto.

Innocent people dying due to protesting an innocent person being killed

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over a year ago


"will provoke more racism.

Yes, amongst people like me!

I experienced racism growing up as a child and I will be forever grateful as it galvanised my sisters and I.

We did pretty well for ourselves, on paper we're all millionaires, all university educated and life's pretty good. All our children are university educated and whilst I've remained in London my sisters live on Windsor, Leeds and Milan.

By hard work and not accepting "our place" we achieved what we wanted. We all have white partners, my sister in Leeds and I our first husbands were black. I have three son in laws; on black, one Asian and one white.

We are a happy, diverse family and family gatherings do look like a Benneton ad.

I don't see white people as the enemy, I share my life with one. I can walk down the street without a care in the world. I'm not afraid of my white neighbours, and I can walk down any street in this country without being shot by the member of the public for no other reason than they didn't think I belonged there and they were scared.

I honestly didn't realise how bad things were in America. Yes I'd heard of Rodney King but thought he must have done something. The "sparodic" reports I dismissed. The inequality of how white and blacks are treated I've shrugged away as "normal"...white man has the power right?

For me, and for many like me George Floyds death, captured for all to see bought the stark truth to us: black people don't matter. All the other injustices allowed to go unchallenged just came to the fore.

I remembered Dylan Roof, a white man who walked into a black church and shot dead 19 people, including a state senator. On the way to jail he said he was hungry and the arresting officers stopped off at Burger King to buy him a meal. George Floyd allegedly passed a $20 bill and didn't even make it to lock up. Died on the pavement, hands behind his back.

That is the injustice. That is what is making black people angry. What happens in America soon finds its way to these shores.

I don't want my grandchildren growing up in a world they are seen as nothing because of the colour of their skin.

"

Exactly we are fighting for the future so they don't have to become the next victim.

Also I'm glad you've made it to a place a happiness and equality

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By *ebwizMan
over a year ago

Clevedon

Well put. I've had friends that are black and Asian. Colour was irrelevant, they were funny and welcoming. You should feel safe wherever you choose to walk. Let's hope the American justice system does the right thing when this goes to trial. I watched the video and seen no justification in the cops actions, very sad.

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By *ev_1Couple
over a year ago

Bickliegh


"They have probably achieved the opposite of what they were protesting for. Had they done this on line, where everyone is spending their time, the message was getting across, we heard them loud and clear. But what they have done will provoke more racism. Cause and effect. Our county isn't America, the level of racism is low in comparison. It seems everything America has, we want too.

So WE should protest online and you'll listen? Have you ever been a victim of racism. Ask us we know. The only difference is that the cops here don't have guns to be shooting and killing black people. Racism is not low in this country but then again you're ont on the receiving end so you wouldn't know how it feels.

The people that are already racist probably won't change, won't listen. If it was more frowned upon then it might make a difference. But to threaten everyone's lives will not have a positive effect. People that would stand against racism might not fight so hard to change the minds of the minority of racists. In the whole of the UK only a small proportion are racist. The rest of us don't deserve the backlash these protests can cause. To fight against the few, they are lashing out at the majority. That's the problem.

If you're not racist then you shouldn't be worried about the protests coz they're not directed at you.The number of racist people doesn't have to be high,even a few can do a lot of damage. I'm most of the cops in the US will tell you they're not racist and yet black people get gunned down by white cops. When you say THEIR cause or THEM when referring to black people it shows that you don't understand our struggle and thats why you suggest we should protest online

Protesting during a pandemic will effect me. Will effect alot of people. The lack of respect damaging the war memorial rubs me up the wrong way. You may be black and proud but I'm white and proud of what they solders done for us. To be able to live in one of the best countries in the world.

Remember, they have disrespected many soldiers of every colour and religion by defacing the war memorial. Those people fought for the freedoms we have today, black, white and every other bloody colour of there rainbow. Anything those protesters have done which may have been good has now been ruined by their actions for me. "
2nd that protest peacefully don't deface and riot

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By *exy couple128Couple
over a year ago

Scarborough

Agree totally. Disgusting behaviour. Vandalising the cenataph and Winston Churchill statue.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I am white and the victim of racist behaviour when the parents of the girl I wished to marry refused consent because of my skin colour and despite her wanting to marry me. It still hurts 40 years on, when I think about it, but I move on... "

Without wishing to diminish your experience, I think we're talking here about a community of people to whom instances like this are commonplace and lifetime, socially as well as institutionally.

Imagine if in your case, you regularly didn't get a job you felt you deserved, or you were treated differently by the police and society in general because of your skin colour and how you were stereotyped because of it.

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