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"It is good news, when we desperately need some! We’re still so much higher than elsewhere unfortunately and I hope the lag in data isn’t masking the last weekend or so and what that’s done to us. The tricky part is easing this lockdown, which I’m not very hopeful of us doing well." I would have felt better if we had single or low double figures in death rates...like most other countries who came out of lockdown restrictions. | |||
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"Yeah good news. Although I'm not sure why people are so afraid of something thats much less likely to kill them than almost anything else they encounter in every day life anyway!" Because more people than you think have underlying health conditions or living with someone who has underlying health conditions. And this virus was known at least at its peak to be more infectious than most other known viruses. | |||
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"It is good news, when we desperately need some! We’re still so much higher than elsewhere unfortunately and I hope the lag in data isn’t masking the last weekend or so and what that’s done to us. The tricky part is easing this lockdown, which I’m not very hopeful of us doing well. I would have felt better if we had single or low double figures in death rates...like most other countries who came out of lockdown restrictions. " Precisely. We’re far too high | |||
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"Yeah good news. Although I'm not sure why people are so afraid of something thats much less likely to kill them than almost anything else they encounter in every day life anyway! Because more people than you think have underlying health conditions or living with someone who has underlying health conditions. And this virus was known at least at its peak to be more infectious than most other known viruses. " i don,t think its necessarily more infectious, i just think its a strange one where people have it with no symptoms so they can pass it on, i know of two people tested because of their jobs,they had the virus and they had no idea, but if someone had flu for example, its highly unlikely that they wouldn't know about it | |||
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"They people with underlying heapth conditions need to shield, others don't. Flu is more contagious and 100 of thousands of people die from that every single year" Shielding yeah that's a good one. The little old lady who lives with her daughter or son.. .who just happens to work in tesco...yeah right  | |||
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"They people with underlying heapth conditions need to shield, others don't. Flu is more contagious and 100 of thousands of people die from that every single year" The R of flu is lower than the R of COVID 19 before lockdown. R of COVID currently lower than flu because the whole country has been in lockdown with the aim to bring it down. COVID absolutely transmits faster than flu in I guess like for like conditions. | |||
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"You can't protected everyone in life, unfortunately money is needed to pay for things like the nhs and guess where that money comes from....a working and open economy." Apart from the usa we are the worst in the world. I'll leave it there with you as we will never agree. | |||
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"You can't protected everyone in life, unfortunately money is needed to pay for things like the nhs and guess where that money comes from....a working and open economy." And lockdown was in place across most of Europe to keep health services running. | |||
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"You can't protected everyone in life, unfortunately money is needed to pay for things like the nhs and guess where that money comes from....a working and open economy. Apart from the usa we are the worst in the world. I'll leave it there with you as we will never agree." Apparently in Brazil in the last 3 days there have been over 1500 dying every day. It's so bad the government is trying to hide the figures | |||
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"But we are not higher than elsewhere, everywhere else isnt counting deaths of someome who died with the virus as dying of the virus, very different way of reporting. There have been thousands of deaths here recorded as dying by the virus when they haven't even been tested for it. The thousands that have died, died with the virus, not OF the virus. " This is why the figures comparing additional deaths over and above what can normally be expected in a given time frame give a much better indicator of the numbers involved. | |||
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"Again we are not the worst in the world. In any case belgium is. We are recording deaths of people dying WITH corana as dying OF corona which is not the same and not right! Other countries are not doing this that's why their stats are lower....please common sense.." People who work in the heath service are now starting to put tweets up on what's going on. A girl was kicked in the head by her horse, sadly she died. A CV19 test was positive, so she have to go on the figures that's the rules. The rules was put together in a rush, needs a full inquiry when it's over so family's know how there loved one's died. | |||
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"They people with underlying heapth conditions need to shield, others don't. Flu is more contagious and 100 of thousands of people die from that every single year" Flu is not more contagious, you literally have no grasp of the facts do you. | |||
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"But we are not higher than elsewhere, everywhere else isnt counting deaths of someome who died with the virus as dying of the virus, very different way of reporting. There have been thousands of deaths here recorded as dying by the virus when they haven't even been tested for it. The thousands that have died, died with the virus, not OF the virus. "  | |||
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"You can't protected everyone in life, unfortunately money is needed to pay for things like the nhs and guess where that money comes from....a working and open economy." errm didn't we have this before the pandemic....a working open economy, travelling overseas, cruising around the world. Not to mention shipping in illegal immigrants for cheap labour in container trucks container. I had more chance of catching it than being hit by a car. | |||
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"You can't protected everyone in life, unfortunately money is needed to pay for things like the nhs and guess where that money comes from....a working and open economy. errm didn't we have this before the pandemic....a working open economy, travelling overseas, cruising around the world. Not to mention shipping in illegal immigrants for cheap labour in container trucks container. I had more chance of catching it than being hit by a car." What you just said literally makes no sense sorry lol | |||
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"You can't protected everyone in life, unfortunately money is needed to pay for things like the nhs and guess where that money comes from....a working and open economy. errm didn't we have this before the pandemic....a working open economy, travelling overseas, cruising around the world. Not to mention shipping in illegal immigrants for cheap labour in container trucks container. I had more chance of catching it than being hit by a car. What you just said literally makes no sense sorry lol"  | |||
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"They people with underlying heapth conditions need to shield, others don't. Flu is more contagious and 100 of thousands of people die from that every single year" Flu is not more contagious! Source for that?! Also flu cannot be passed on asymptomatically - covid can and in most cases is! | |||
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" Flu is not more contagious! Source for that?! Also flu cannot be passed on asymptomatically - covid can and in most cases is! " CDC don't agree wiith you . .. 'As many as 50% of infections with normal seasonal flu may be asymptomatic' | |||
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"Well the flu killed 34,200 last year almost half in care homes, don't remember locking down homes and buying loads of PPE. Or maybe I missed it news don't always report everything. " Does make you wonder however that if flu had just been discovered this last year what the world response would be? | |||
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"Well the flu killed 34,200 last year almost half in care homes, don't remember locking down homes and buying loads of PPE. Or maybe I missed it news don't always report everything. " Not true on average less than 10000 people die of flu each year in the uk. This average is bumped up by year where there are in excess of 20000 deaths when things like bird flu hit. A lot of years less than 2000 people die of flu. | |||
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"They people with underlying heapth conditions need to shield, others don't. Flu is more contagious and 100 of thousands of people die from that every single year The R of flu is lower than the R of COVID 19 before lockdown. R of COVID currently lower than flu because the whole country has been in lockdown with the aim to bring it down. COVID absolutely transmits faster than flu in I guess like for like conditions. " Well said, it also shown a significantly higher death rate than flu, despite what the tabloids tell us. | |||
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"The Daily Mail is reporting good news about the numbers decreasing, so it does appear that the lockdown has worked, I wonder if possibly the virus is losing its strength. It is definitely not my choice of paper but never the less I thought an interesting link to share. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8391351/Englands-coronavirus-outbreak-shrinks-HALF-week.html?ito=push-notification&ci=17518&si=8711775 " Post hoc fallacy "after this, therefore because of this" is an informal fallacy that states: "Since event Y followed event X, event Y must have been caused by X | |||
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"I would give it a couple of weeks before celebrating any possible drops in infection rates " This
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"Another fallacy ‘when the shops open’ Supermarkets are the most visited shops. They have never closed. Social distancing is sort of practiced in them, but not really (I work in one) People when have properly observed lockdown have literally not idea of the 1000s of people who haven’t. Despite this, the rate is steadily going down" "Another fallacy ‘when the shops open’ Supermarkets are the most visited shops." It's not a fallacy. It means more shops will be open 'addition to' supermarkets which are already open. More shops opening means more people will be out and about and more people using public transport. I'm not saying that will definitely make things worse, but I understand why some are keeping fingers crossed. | |||
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"I would give it a couple of weeks before celebrating any possible drops in infection rates " Don't have to give it a few weeks, just look at other countries that are opening up and see what's going to happen . There rates are still dropping as they open up, so good news . | |||
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"Another fallacy ‘when the shops open’ Supermarkets are the most visited shops. They have never closed. Social distancing is sort of practiced in them, but not really (I work in one) People when have properly observed lockdown have literally not idea of the 1000s of people who haven’t. Despite this, the rate is steadily going down "Another fallacy ‘when the shops open’ Supermarkets are the most visited shops." It's not a fallacy. It means more shops will be open 'addition to' supermarkets which are already open. More shops opening means more people will be out and about and more people using public transport. I'm not saying that will definitely make things worse, but I understand why some are keeping fingers crossed." Yes, but I don’t think a lot of realise how many people are in supermarkets and how busy they are. More shops open is unlikely to make much of a difference, and supermarkets have been open all the time | |||
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"It's dying off,so much so they can't even make a vaccine, we need to cut all of this Social Distancing BS, the new normal BS, the second wave BS,Mask BS, get everything open and get back to normal. all the so called experts models have been blown out of the water... Thanks Mr Ferguson. " That is right and also . I dont think this will reach the numbers compared to a normal influenza outbrake either. | |||
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"It's dying off,so much so they can't even make a vaccine, we need to cut all of this Social Distancing BS, the new normal BS, the second wave BS,Mask BS, get everything open and get back to normal. all the so called experts models have been blown out of the water... Thanks Mr Ferguson. That is right and also . I dont think this will reach the numbers compared to a normal influenza outbrake either." No it probably won’t. Why? Because social distancing has been in place and the majority (not all, but enough to make the difference) have been following this. Also we have had plenty of sunshine to enjoy, which has boosted most people’s immune systems. This virus will run for a few more years and we will adapt to survive. Unfortunately the weakest may not. | |||
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"It's dying off,so much so they can't even make a vaccine, we need to cut all of this Social Distancing BS, the new normal BS, the second wave BS,Mask BS, get everything open and get back to normal. all the so called experts models have been blown out of the water... Thanks Mr Ferguson. That is right and also . I dont think this will reach the numbers compared to a normal influenza outbrake either. No it probably won’t. Why? Because social distancing has been in place and the majority (not all, but enough to make the difference) have been following this. Also we have had plenty of sunshine to enjoy, which has boosted most people’s immune systems. This virus will run for a few more years and we will adapt to survive. Unfortunately the weakest may not." That is also right and also its been a time for earth to heal as well which shows that with lockdown we can fix the planet and that is just within 1 month of it. | |||
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"It's dying off,so much so they can't even make a vaccine, we need to cut all of this Social Distancing BS, the new normal BS, the second wave BS,Mask BS, get everything open and get back to normal. all the so called experts models have been blown out of the water... Thanks Mr Ferguson. " The only thing dying is 360 people in the last 24 hours | |||
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"It's dying off,so much so they can't even make a vaccine, we need to cut all of this Social Distancing BS, the new normal BS, the second wave BS,Mask BS, get everything open and get back to normal. all the so called experts models have been blown out of the water... Thanks Mr Ferguson. The only thing dying is 360 people in the last 24 hours" Keep an eye out for deaths from undiagnosed cancers next year | |||
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"It's dying off,so much so they can't even make a vaccine, we need to cut all of this Social Distancing BS, the new normal BS, the second wave BS,Mask BS, get everything open and get back to normal. all the so called experts models have been blown out of the water... Thanks Mr Ferguson. The only thing dying is 360 people in the last 24 hours" | |||
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"It's dying off,so much so they can't even make a vaccine, we need to cut all of this Social Distancing BS, the new normal BS, the second wave BS,Mask BS, get everything open and get back to normal. all the so called experts models have been blown out of the water... Thanks Mr Ferguson. The only thing dying is 360 people in the last 24 hours" | |||
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"The Daily Mail is reporting good news about the numbers decreasing, so it does appear that the lockdown has worked, I wonder if possibly the virus is losing its strength. It is definitely not my choice of paper but never the less I thought an interesting link to share. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8391351/Englands-coronavirus-outbreak-shrinks-HALF-week.html?ito=push-notification&ci=17518&si=8711775 " I'd hazard a guess they are wrong. It seems like it's stabilised but not falling anywhere near what Italy and Spain were two weeks ago | |||
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"So. What did they do in Weston Super Mare? " I don't know, what did they do? | |||
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"The Daily Mail is reporting good news about the numbers decreasing, so it does appear that the lockdown has worked, I wonder if possibly the virus is losing its strength. It is definitely not my choice of paper but never the less I thought an interesting link to share. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8391351/Englands-coronavirus-outbreak-shrinks-HALF-week.html?ito=push-notification&ci=17518&si=8711775 I'd hazard a guess they are wrong. It seems like it's stabilised but not falling anywhere near what Italy and Spain were two weeks ago" Do they record covid deaths differently to us? | |||
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"Again we are not the worst in the world. In any case belgium is. We are recording deaths of people dying WITH corana as dying OF corona which is not the same and not right! Other countries are not doing this that's why their stats are lower....please common sense.." Hmmmmm | |||
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"The Daily Mail is reporting good news about the numbers decreasing, so it does appear that the lockdown has worked, I wonder if possibly the virus is losing its strength. It is definitely not my choice of paper but never the less I thought an interesting link to share. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8391351/Englands-coronavirus-outbreak-shrinks-HALF-week.html?ito=push-notification&ci=17518&si=8711775 I'd hazard a guess they are wrong. It seems like it's stabilised but not falling anywhere near what Italy and Spain were two weeks ago Do they record covid deaths differently to us?" Italy don't so under report deaths compared to UK but spain pretty much do the same as us. They both locked down earlier and harder. Belguim and germany include more types of deaths than us in general so would appear higher than if UK method was used. | |||
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"So. What did they do in Weston Super Mare? " Weston was a hospital problem talking to someone who works there. It was a strain passed around the hospital due to errors in administration, locked the hospital download and waited for it to burn out. No one outside the hospital tested for that strain, track and trace agency workers was all over it testing people in and around the hospital. So the government’s system does work, if it happens again they learned a lot. | |||
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"So. What did they do in Weston Super Mare? Weston was a hospital problem talking to someone who works there. It was a strain passed around the hospital due to errors in administration, locked the hospital download and waited for it to burn out. No one outside the hospital tested for that strain, track and trace agency workers was all over it testing people in and around the hospital. So the government’s system does work, if it happens again they learned a lot." Thank you | |||
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"It's dying off,so much so they can't even make a vaccine, we need to cut all of this Social Distancing BS, the new normal BS, the second wave BS,Mask BS, get everything open and get back to normal. all the so called experts models have been blown out of the water... Thanks Mr Ferguson. That is right and also . I dont think this will reach the numbers compared to a normal influenza outbrake either." can you tell us the last time that 40,000 people died of the flu in this country? | |||
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"The Daily Mail is reporting good news about the numbers decreasing, so it does appear that the lockdown has worked, I wonder if possibly the virus is losing its strength. It is definitely not my choice of paper but never the less I thought an interesting link to share. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8391351/Englands-coronavirus-outbreak-shrinks-HALF-week.html?ito=push-notification&ci=17518&si=8711775 I'd hazard a guess they are wrong. It seems like it's stabilised but not falling anywhere near what Italy and Spain were two weeks ago Do they record covid deaths differently to us?" Don’t know about Italy. Spain definitely is VERY different. If it was the same way, Spain would have a higher number of deaths than the Uk | |||
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"It's dying off,so much so they can't even make a vaccine, we need to cut all of this Social Distancing BS, the new normal BS, the second wave BS,Mask BS, get everything open and get back to normal. all the so called experts models have been blown out of the water... Thanks Mr Ferguson. The only thing dying is 360 people in the last 24 hours" From covid or of covid related death because of underlying health problem that’s the big question Australia had only 104 people die from covid But lots more will die of covid related deaths but they won’t say that it was covid on the death certs unlike here all deaths have been recorded as covid which is why the number here are so high here | |||
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"Again we are not higher than elsewhere, we are reporting deaths of people WITH the virus at time of death as dying of the virus, when other countries are not. " Where did you see this? | |||
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"You can't protected everyone in life, unfortunately money is needed to pay for things like the nhs and guess where that money comes from....a working and open economy." Exactly if we carry on like this your NHS will disappear from bankruptcy, there is no money tree. | |||
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"Again we are not higher than elsewhere, we are reporting deaths of people WITH the virus at time of death as dying of the virus, when other countries are not. Where did you see this? " If you read the graph information on deaths. It states record number of deaths with covod19 stated on the death certificate, but without confirmed covid19 test. So how many really died of covid19, we will never know but less than stated I bet. | |||
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"You can't protected everyone in life, unfortunately money is needed to pay for things like the nhs and guess where that money comes from....a working and open economy. Exactly if we carry on like this your NHS will disappear from bankruptcy, there is no money tree." As will every other service from transport to Benefits to the banking the whole system will be bankrupt if we don’t get the fuck back to work and soon it’s simple economics | |||
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"You can't protected everyone in life, unfortunately money is needed to pay for things like the nhs and guess where that money comes from....a working and open economy. Exactly if we carry on like this your NHS will disappear from bankruptcy, there is no money tree. As will every other service from transport to Benefits to the banking the whole system will be bankrupt if we don’t get the fuck back to work and soon it’s simple economics " Apart from those in hospitality, has anybody else been prevented from going back to work ? | |||
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"On Wednesday, UK daily deaths were more than the rest of Europe put together.... "But how many had covid19? Numbers mean nothing. | |||
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"On Wednesday, UK daily deaths were more than the rest of Europe put together.... But how many had covid19? Numbers mean nothing. "They all tested positive for Covid | |||
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"On Wednesday, UK daily deaths were more than the rest of Europe put together.... But how many had covid19? Numbers mean nothing.
They all tested positive for Covid"Read the graph it states not all have a confirmed covid19 test. Just registered on death certificate. | |||
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"The rate of infections and deaths is steadily rising here in Northamptonshire "My friend who has MS had all his appointments cancelled today for next 2 months due to a RISE in covid-19 | |||
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"They people with underlying heapth conditions need to shield, others don't. Flu is more contagious and 100 of thousands of people die from that every single year" 1,692 people died from flu in 2018/9 in England. I don't have the data for the rest of the UK. Flu is much more easily managed too. Annual flu vaccinations, where predicted strains are correct, protect those given them as well as others via herd immunity too. There can also be residual immunity from previous years vaccines too. We have no covid-19 vaccine and apparent low levels of the population win antibodies, possibly giving a minority of citizens protection, but for how long and how much, we don't know. It's great news that people's dedication to reducing the infection levels is continuing to show reduced levels of it. The increased number of experts who are concerned about us relaxing restrictions potentially too early, need to have us all continuing with our caution. | |||
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"On Wednesday, UK daily deaths were more than the rest of Europe put together.... But how many had covid19? Numbers mean nothing.
They all tested positive for CovidRead the graph it states not all have a confirmed covid19 test. Just registered on death certificate. "You think any registrar will signed that the cause of death is covid if there is no evidence that the individual had covid ?? The BBC website states: "A total of 40,261 people have died in hospitals, care homes and the wider community after testing positive for the virus" On top of that do you know that the virus has been out since last December? People have been dying of the virus before we started testing, so the number is most likely higher than what we have been told. | |||
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"So. What did they do in Weston Super Mare? Weston was a hospital problem talking to someone who works there. It was a strain passed around the hospital due to errors in administration, locked the hospital download and waited for it to burn out. No one outside the hospital tested for that strain, track and trace agency workers was all over it testing people in and around the hospital. So the government’s system does work, if it happens again they learned a lot." Ah right. I recall it now. TY | |||
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"But we are not higher than elsewhere, everywhere else isnt counting deaths of someome who died with the virus as dying of the virus, very different way of reporting. There have been thousands of deaths here recorded as dying by the virus when they haven't even been tested for it. The thousands that have died, died with the virus, not OF the virus. " Since you're clearly an expert epidemiologist and we are mere humble mortals, pray do explain the year on year excess deaths number. If you'd care to turn your expertise to the current uptick in the R number in certain areas, that would be fun too. | |||
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"Again we are not higher than elsewhere, we are reporting deaths of people WITH the virus at time of death as dying of the virus, when other countries are not. Where did you see this? If you read the graph information on deaths. It states record number of deaths with covod19 stated on the death certificate, but without confirmed covid19 test. So how many really died of covid19, we will never know but less than stated I bet." Well if that's the case I bet its thousands less than have been stated. The media are milking it. I recently heard that almost half of the people who died were in care homes. | |||
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"They are sticking covid19 on all death certificates no matter of what they died from ,been a few cases were people have died from cancer or heart attacks and had covid stuck on the death certificate, familys have gone mad and seeking leagel advice ,apparently hospitals have been told to do that ..thats why no autopsys " That is right. I also heard that they do that I guess it is political and I wonder who is gaining from it. I reckon that bill gates could be involved with his vaccine, in reality there is no pandemic, fear is the biggest weapon. | |||
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"You can't protected everyone in life, unfortunately money is needed to pay for things like the nhs and guess where that money comes from....a working and open economy. Exactly if we carry on like this your NHS will disappear from bankruptcy, there is no money tree. As will every other service from transport to Benefits to the banking the whole system will be bankrupt if we don’t get the fuck back to work and soon it’s simple economics Apart from those in hospitality, has anybody else been prevented from going back to work ?" So why are they not all back at work and pulling the country out of the shit I’m self employed Iv never stopped working just takes common sense and a bit more thinking about how you can over come challengers each day that’s all I think people are all waiting for somebody to says it’s all safe now so when there is more deaths they can point the finger of blame at somebody then We all got to pull together and do this for the good of the country at the end of the day | |||
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"They are sticking covid19 on all death certificates no matter of what they died from ,been a few cases were people have died from cancer or heart attacks and had covid stuck on the death certificate, familys have gone mad and seeking leagel advice ,apparently hospitals have been told to do that ..thats why no autopsys That is right. I also heard that they do that I guess it is political and I wonder who is gaining from it. I reckon that bill gates could be involved with his vaccine, in reality there is no pandemic, fear is the biggest weapon." Check out the situation in Brazil No pandemic? Really? | |||
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"They are sticking covid19 on all death certificates no matter of what they died from ,been a few cases were people have died from cancer or heart attacks and had covid stuck on the death certificate, familys have gone mad and seeking leagel advice ,apparently hospitals have been told to do that ..thats why no autopsys " This is correct how can a women who gets kicked in the head by a horse and dies from injury’s yet still the death cert still says covid on it is just ridiculous Somebody is probably getting paid a hell of a lot more if it says covid is say | |||
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"They are sticking covid19 on all death certificates no matter of what they died from ,been a few cases were people have died from cancer or heart attacks and had covid stuck on the death certificate, familys have gone mad and seeking leagel advice ,apparently hospitals have been told to do that ..thats why no autopsys " Why would the medics even agree to that? That seems bonkers and professionally incorrect to me. . However, the numbers don't seem to be decreasing as much as I'd want to see. If anything, the mean is plateauing, suggesting a potential to rise  | |||
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"But we are not higher than elsewhere, everywhere else isnt counting deaths of someome who died with the virus as dying of the virus, very different way of reporting. There have been thousands of deaths here recorded as dying by the virus when they haven't even been tested for it. The thousands that have died, died with the virus, not OF the virus. Since you're clearly an expert epidemiologist and we are mere humble mortals, pray do explain the year on year excess deaths number. If you'd care to turn your expertise to the current uptick in the R number in certain areas, that would be fun too." exactly this. Excess death MUST be considered as covid-19 deaths. Reported deaths are 40,000 compared to excess deaths running at 60,000. That means that 20,000 deaths are likely to be covid-19 but not appearing in the offical figure. Some thing that people are reported as covid-19 but in fact the dead person died of something else. If that's the case then for each incorrectly identified as a covid death there must be a case that went unrecorded as covid but was.... | |||
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"They are sticking covid19 on all death certificates no matter of what they died from ,been a few cases were people have died from cancer or heart attacks and had covid stuck on the death certificate, familys have gone mad and seeking leagel advice ,apparently hospitals have been told to do that ..thats why no autopsys Why would the medics even agree to that? That seems bonkers and professionally incorrect to me. "I read somewhere that they get an extra premium paid to them for treating people with covid 19 so it would be a financial inventive in that case. | |||
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"They are sticking covid19 on all death certificates no matter of what they died from ,been a few cases were people have died from cancer or heart attacks and had covid stuck on the death certificate, familys have gone mad and seeking leagel advice ,apparently hospitals have been told to do that ..thats why no autopsys That is right. I also heard that they do that I guess it is political and I wonder who is gaining from it. I reckon that bill gates could be involved with his vaccine, in reality there is no pandemic, fear is the biggest weapon. Check out the situation in Brazil No pandemic? Really?" Kind of but the word pandemic have changed as before it was used when 7% of the world population was infected. | |||
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"They are sticking covid19 on all death certificates no matter of what they died from ,been a few cases were people have died from cancer or heart attacks and had covid stuck on the death certificate, familys have gone mad and seeking leagel advice ,apparently hospitals have been told to do that ..thats why no autopsys That is right. I also heard that they do that I guess it is political and I wonder who is gaining from it. I reckon that bill gates could be involved with his vaccine, in reality there is no pandemic, fear is the biggest weapon. Check out the situation in Brazil No pandemic? Really?Kind of but the word pandemic have changed as before it was used when 7% of the world population was infected." 7% hmmmmmm | |||
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"They are sticking covid19 on all death certificates no matter of what they died from ,been a few cases were people have died from cancer or heart attacks and had covid stuck on the death certificate, familys have gone mad and seeking leagel advice ,apparently hospitals have been told to do that ..thats why no autopsys That is right. I also heard that they do that I guess it is political and I wonder who is gaining from it. I reckon that bill gates could be involved with his vaccine, in reality there is no pandemic, fear is the biggest weapon. Check out the situation in Brazil No pandemic? Really?Kind of but the word pandemic have changed as before it was used when 7% of the world population was infected. 7% hmmmmmm" I meant we havent had it just when it reaches that level it get described as it. | |||
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