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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich

I really really dislike any conspiracy theories, I love science, maths, REAL numbers and facts ....

BUT today when I’ve asked for my results the lab that tested my blood for antibodies told me that they can’t share the result with me as the MRHA has told them not to reveal any information with anyone. No test results will be given to people who made tests.

I hope there are some people on here who could throw an advice of legality of this aspect - I understand that your personal information can not be withheld from you especially if you’ve applied for it?

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen


"I really really dislike any conspiracy theories, I love science, maths, REAL numbers and facts ....

BUT today when I’ve asked for my results the lab that tested my blood for antibodies told me that they can’t share the result with me as the MRHA has told them not to reveal any information with anyone. No test results will be given to people who made tests.

I hope there are some people on here who could throw an advice of legality of this aspect - I understand that your personal information can not be withheld from you especially if you’ve applied for it?

"

I don't know enough about this to give you a right answer, but my thinking would have been to give the person being tested the results? Is that not right?

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"I really really dislike any conspiracy theories, I love science, maths, REAL numbers and facts ....

BUT today when I’ve asked for my results the lab that tested my blood for antibodies told me that they can’t share the result with me as the MRHA has told them not to reveal any information with anyone. No test results will be given to people who made tests.

I hope there are some people on here who could throw an advice of legality of this aspect - I understand that your personal information can not be withheld from you especially if you’ve applied for it?

"

What is the nature of the test, is it one of the evaluation tests, have you paid for it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I really really dislike any conspiracy theories, I love science, maths, REAL numbers and facts ....

BUT today when I’ve asked for my results the lab that tested my blood for antibodies told me that they can’t share the result with me as the MRHA has told them not to reveal any information with anyone. No test results will be given to people who made tests.

I hope there are some people on here who could throw an advice of legality of this aspect - I understand that your personal information can not be withheld from you especially if you’ve applied for it?

I don't know enough about this to give you a right answer, but my thinking would have been to give the person being tested the results? Is that not right? "

What's the point in testing you if they don't give you the results??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely entitled to access your personal medical record by law, data protection act. I've done it, you have to contact the 'data controller' usually GP, consultant, hospital trust and formally request the info. They have to reply by a set number of days. Just google 'accessing medical records' it's all on there

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich

Well yes, that’s what I thought as well but for some reason the government does not want people to find out that we’ve already had it ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Check with Gov.uk re finger prick tests.

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich


"Absolutely entitled to access your personal medical record by law, data protection act. I've done it, you have to contact the 'data controller' usually GP, consultant, hospital trust and formally request the info. They have to reply by a set number of days. Just google 'accessing medical records' it's all on there

"

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Thank you, that’s what I thought however the reply I have received states that they can not reveal the results due to government guidance, the test has been processed by the lab but they are not willing to share info .... I will dig deeper ...

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen


"Well yes, that’s what I thought as well but for some reason the government does not want people to find out that we’ve already had it ... "

Well, I'm totally lost then, as that totally defeats everything in my eyes, and from what I've read, everyone wanted to be tested to see if they had previously had it and therefore may carry the antibodies.

I know I haven't had it, (haven't been ill enough) but we are not really being offered much up here that I have seen.

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By *anshee99Woman
over a year ago

all over

Someone very close to me had an antibody test which was done at home with results shown within 15 minutes.

Where did you get your test

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich


"Check with Gov.uk re finger prick tests."

I’m not interested what the government has to say about it, it is your legal way to buy and do what you want as long as it’s not illegal. Every test on this earth is not 100% accurate including pregnancy tests sold in the pharmacy lol but it gives you a very good indication ...

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich


"Someone very close to me had an antibody test which was done at home with results shown within 15 minutes.

Where did you get your test"

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That’s not a test that I have used, I have been told by a friend who is a scientist that these tests have much lower sensitivity.... I’ve used a test that has been proven to work well enough in other countries, 100% sensitivity ...

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich


"I really really dislike any conspiracy theories, I love science, maths, REAL numbers and facts ....

BUT today when I’ve asked for my results the lab that tested my blood for antibodies told me that they can’t share the result with me as the MRHA has told them not to reveal any information with anyone. No test results will be given to people who made tests.

I hope there are some people on here who could throw an advice of legality of this aspect - I understand that your personal information can not be withheld from you especially if you’ve applied for it?

What is the nature of the test, is it one of the evaluation tests, have you paid for it?"

...............

Yes, I’ve paid for it and it’s carried out by a private pathology lab.

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen


"I really really dislike any conspiracy theories, I love science, maths, REAL numbers and facts ....

BUT today when I’ve asked for my results the lab that tested my blood for antibodies told me that they can’t share the result with me as the MRHA has told them not to reveal any information with anyone. No test results will be given to people who made tests.

I hope there are some people on here who could throw an advice of legality of this aspect - I understand that your personal information can not be withheld from you especially if you’ve applied for it?

What is the nature of the test, is it one of the evaluation tests, have you paid for it?

...............

Yes, I’ve paid for it and it’s carried out by a private pathology lab."

Personally, if you have paid for it, the information is yours! Regardless, challenge them under the GDPR act as it reeks bullshit to me, the information is yours alone and you choose whether to share it or not!

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen


"I really really dislike any conspiracy theories, I love science, maths, REAL numbers and facts ....

BUT today when I’ve asked for my results the lab that tested my blood for antibodies told me that they can’t share the result with me as the MRHA has told them not to reveal any information with anyone. No test results will be given to people who made tests.

I hope there are some people on here who could throw an advice of legality of this aspect - I understand that your personal information can not be withheld from you especially if you’ve applied for it?

What is the nature of the test, is it one of the evaluation tests, have you paid for it?

...............

Yes, I’ve paid for it and it’s carried out by a private pathology lab.

Personally, if you have paid for it, the information is yours! Regardless, challenge them under the GDPR act as it reeks bullshit to me, the information is yours alone and you choose whether to share it or not!"

In fact, who in their right bloody mind would pay for a test to not be told the results? Bloody ludicrous!

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By *anshee99Woman
over a year ago

all over


"Someone very close to me had an antibody test which was done at home with results shown within 15 minutes.

Where did you get your test

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That’s not a test that I have used, I have been told by a friend who is a scientist that these tests have much lower sensitivity.... I’ve used a test that has been proven to work well enough in other countries, 100% sensitivity ... "

The test I'm referring to was made by oxford university and issued by the government. I was only trying to help you.

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich


"Someone very close to me had an antibody test which was done at home with results shown within 15 minutes.

Where did you get your test

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That’s not a test that I have used, I have been told by a friend who is a scientist that these tests have much lower sensitivity.... I’ve used a test that has been proven to work well enough in other countries, 100% sensitivity ...

The test I'm referring to was made by oxford university and issued by the government. I was only trying to help you. "

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Sorry, I’m just quite annoyed by this situation because it’s bizarre to say the least.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

Is It a legit test??? X

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich

yes it is and it’s sold by a company which specialise in these type of tests

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"yes it is and it’s sold by a company which specialise in these type of tests "
then it's very odd. I also know people that have had their antibody results done and had them back . So I'd be inclined to say they are not being honest

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

Is the test from the UK or from abroad?

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr


"I really really dislike any conspiracy theories, I love science, maths, REAL numbers and facts ....

BUT today when I’ve asked for my results the lab that tested my blood for antibodies told me that they can’t share the result with me as the MRHA has told them not to reveal any information with anyone. No test results will be given to people who made tests.

I hope there are some people on here who could throw an advice of legality of this aspect - I understand that your personal information can not be withheld from you especially if you’ve applied for it?

"

I do not intend to be flippant in any way - but putting your query on Matt Hancock's Twitter feed might be worth a punt.

Also, his performance regarding testing has been lamentable. If you want to know how bad, listen to 'More Or Less' on Radio 4. The next instalment is tomorrow at 09.00.

They have been keeping an eye on his misinformation (or lying bullshit, if you prefer) for weeks.

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire


"I really really dislike any conspiracy theories, I love science, maths, REAL numbers and facts ....

BUT today when I’ve asked for my results the lab that tested my blood for antibodies told me that they can’t share the result with me as the MRHA has told them not to reveal any information with anyone. No test results will be given to people who made tests.

I hope there are some people on here who could throw an advice of legality of this aspect - I understand that your personal information can not be withheld from you especially if you’ve applied for it?

"

Surely your expectation was to know the result of the test .... therefore you should have been made aware before you took the test, that you would not be informed of said results

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich


"yes it is and it’s sold by a company which specialise in these type of tests then it's very odd. I also know people that have had their antibody results done and had them back . So I'd be inclined to say they are not being honest "

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yes, they were lucky, sadly since a few days all companies who sell these tests have been put on hold and all labs are not allowed to issue the results

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Absolutely entitled to access your personal medical record by law, data protection act. I've done it, you have to contact the 'data controller' usually GP, consultant, hospital trust and formally request the info. They have to reply by a set number of days. Just google 'accessing medical records' it's all on there

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Thank you, that’s what I thought however the reply I have received states that they can not reveal the results due to government guidance, the test has been processed by the lab but they are not willing to share info .... I will dig deeper ...

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Tell them you are making a Subject Access Request for all personal information they hold about you, including the test result, under the GDPR. They may charge a fee (up to £10 I believe is considered reasonable) but cannot refuse except in very specific cases.

Address the request to the Data Protection Officer and advise that if there is an undue delay or refusal you will refer the matter to the Data Protection Commissioner.

That should do the job. If you prrsonally paid for the test there's also the option of using contract law - they entered into a contract & by refusing to provide the results they are in breach of contract. At the very least you should get your money back.

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich


"Absolutely entitled to access your personal medical record by law, data protection act. I've done it, you have to contact the 'data controller' usually GP, consultant, hospital trust and formally request the info. They have to reply by a set number of days. Just google 'accessing medical records' it's all on there

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Thank you, that’s what I thought however the reply I have received states that they can not reveal the results due to government guidance, the test has been processed by the lab but they are not willing to share info .... I will dig deeper ...

Tell them you are making a Subject Access Request for all personal information they hold about you, including the test result, under the GDPR. They may charge a fee (up to £10 I believe is considered reasonable) but cannot refuse except in very specific cases.

Address the request to the Data Protection Officer and advise that if there is an undue delay or refusal you will refer the matter to the Data Protection Commissioner.

That should do the job. If you prrsonally paid for the test there's also the option of using contract law - they entered into a contract & by refusing to provide the results they are in breach of contract. At the very least you should get your money back."

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Thank you, I will certainly go that route ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you have paid for the test, my guess is you've been had

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

It depends ..

A retail outlet was selling anti body test kits online but they were never meant for home testing as I tried to tell people in another thread.

The MHRA got involved as did the manufacturer of the kit and it was pulled from sale as it was illegal.

If you bought any home test anti body kit it's likely the labs have been told not to issue results as they could be wrong

No result is better than a wrong result.

You might be able to get a refund

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich


"It depends ..

A retail outlet was selling anti body test kits online but they were never meant for home testing as I tried to tell people in another thread.

The MHRA got involved as did the manufacturer of the kit and it was pulled from sale as it was illegal.

If you bought any home test anti body kit it's likely the labs have been told not to issue results as they could be wrong

No result is better than a wrong result.

You might be able to get a refund"

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This specific test has been sold by a company who specialise in home testing and have made enough background checks, testing and homework as their reputation is at stake so I’m not worried about that, also this test has been used successfully in other countries so I’d rather know than not know - my question is then does the government want us to know because if legal tests will show too soon that 80% of people had virus already then lockdown is a illegal matter and government can be suit not only by companies but also by Jane & Jack.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"It depends ..

A retail outlet was selling anti body test kits online but they were never meant for home testing as I tried to tell people in another thread.

The MHRA got involved as did the manufacturer of the kit and it was pulled from sale as it was illegal.

If you bought any home test anti body kit it's likely the labs have been told not to issue results as they could be wrong

No result is better than a wrong result.

You might be able to get a refund

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This specific test has been sold by a company who specialise in home testing and have made enough background checks, testing and homework as their reputation is at stake so I’m not worried about that, also this test has been used successfully in other countries so I’d rather know than not know - my question is then does the government want us to know because if legal tests will show too soon that 80% of people had virus already then lockdown is a illegal matter and government can be suit not only by companies but also by Jane & Jack. "
as I said. I know people who have had test results back for antibody tests... both positive and negative... so dont think it is government advice. Unless they have been told their tests aren't up to standard

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich

I don’t trust the government in this matter anymore ... neither do I trust their numbers but that’s for a different debate .... I’m sure there are many tests out there that don’t work but it’s a matter of choosing the right one and probably going through couple of them - just like pregnancy tests lol

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"I don’t trust the government in this matter anymore ... neither do I trust their numbers but that’s for a different debate .... I’m sure there are many tests out there that don’t work but it’s a matter of choosing the right one and probably going through couple of them - just like pregnancy tests lol "
but its not the government not giving you your results.. no matter what the company are telling you... its the company you got the test from.

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich

Also like I’ve mentioned all companies selling tests and labs are on hold right now - it’s published on gov site.

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich


"I don’t trust the government in this matter anymore ... neither do I trust their numbers but that’s for a different debate .... I’m sure there are many tests out there that don’t work but it’s a matter of choosing the right one and probably going through couple of them - just like pregnancy tests lol but its not the government not giving you your results.. no matter what the company are telling you... its the company you got the test from. "

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It’s the government (MRHA) to be precise who have asked all labs not to provide test results and either companies or labs are allowed to give out info.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OK so I'm confused without reading all the thread. The only antibody tests that are accurate are the ones that are done via a blood sample that a medical professional can take. Ones offered by other companies for testing at home are not approved due to poor accuracy.

The only people currently being offered accurate antibody tests are medical professionals. And the tests are being given within 72 hours.

The reason medical professionals are being offered the test is to help study the virus. The general public will not be given them due to the risk that people will stop social distancing

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By *ymph and ManicCouple
over a year ago

North East

Is it not just another government bashing thread in disguise????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry that should have said results within 72 hours.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"I’ve used a test that has been proven to work well enough in other countries, 100% sensitivity ... "

What does 100% sensitivity mean ?

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich


"OK so I'm confused without reading all the thread. The only antibody tests that are accurate are the ones that are done via a blood sample that a medical professional can take. Ones offered by other companies for testing at home are not approved due to poor accuracy.

The only people currently being offered accurate antibody tests are medical professionals. And the tests are being given within 72 hours.

The reason medical professionals are being offered the test is to help study the virus. The general public will not be given them due to the risk that people will stop social distancing "

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Yes- so says the government but do you believe in everything they and media say? This test has been used successfully in other countries and has very good history now so I’m satisfied with that ... I would have received results within couple of days ... I’m more inclined towards too much information out there is not good just in case it jeopardises what gov says.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OK so I'm confused without reading all the thread. The only antibody tests that are accurate are the ones that are done via a blood sample that a medical professional can take. Ones offered by other companies for testing at home are not approved due to poor accuracy.

The only people currently being offered accurate antibody tests are medical professionals. And the tests are being given within 72 hours.

The reason medical professionals are being offered the test is to help study the virus. The general public will not be given them due to the risk that people will stop social distancing

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Yes- so says the government but do you believe in everything they and media say? This test has been used successfully in other countries and has very good history now so I’m satisfied with that ... I would have received results within couple of days ... I’m more inclined towards too much information out there is not good just in case it jeopardises what gov says. "

I believe in what I see and I see medical staff being tested and getting results

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OK so I'm confused without reading all the thread. The only antibody tests that are accurate are the ones that are done via a blood sample that a medical professional can take. Ones offered by other companies for testing at home are not approved due to poor accuracy.

The only people currently being offered accurate antibody tests are medical professionals. And the tests are being given within 72 hours.

The reason medical professionals are being offered the test is to help study the virus. The general public will not be given them due to the risk that people will stop social distancing

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Yes- so says the government but do you believe in everything they and media say? This test has been used successfully in other countries and has very good history now so I’m satisfied with that ... I would have received results within couple of days ... I’m more inclined towards too much information out there is not good just in case it jeopardises what gov says.

I believe in what I see and I see medical staff being tested and getting results "

Are medical professionals still being advised to social distance in public life after the test?

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By *ymph and ManicCouple
over a year ago

North East

Definitely a government bashing thread. No matter what people are saying regards tests she’s got her own agenda

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich


"I’ve used a test that has been proven to work well enough in other countries, 100% sensitivity ...

What does 100% sensitivity mean ?"

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Sensitivity It’s percentage of people that have been tested and test results were accurate (specifity)

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"I’ve used a test that has been proven to work well enough in other countries, 100% sensitivity ...

What does 100% sensitivity mean ?

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Sensitivity It’s percentage of people that have been tested and test results were accurate (specifity) "
no test will ever be 100%

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

So it is the same as 100% accuracy ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OK so I'm confused without reading all the thread. The only antibody tests that are accurate are the ones that are done via a blood sample that a medical professional can take. Ones offered by other companies for testing at home are not approved due to poor accuracy.

The only people currently being offered accurate antibody tests are medical professionals. And the tests are being given within 72 hours.

The reason medical professionals are being offered the test is to help study the virus. The general public will not be given them due to the risk that people will stop social distancing

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Yes- so says the government but do you believe in everything they and media say? This test has been used successfully in other countries and has very good history now so I’m satisfied with that ... I would have received results within couple of days ... I’m more inclined towards too much information out there is not good just in case it jeopardises what gov says.

I believe in what I see and I see medical staff being tested and getting results

Are medical professionals still being advised to social distance in public life after the test?"

Yes and wear PPE when in direct contact or patients as there isn't proof yet that if you have antibodies that you can't get Covid19 again.

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich


"OK so I'm confused without reading all the thread. The only antibody tests that are accurate are the ones that are done via a blood sample that a medical professional can take. Ones offered by other companies for testing at home are not approved due to poor accuracy.

The only people currently being offered accurate antibody tests are medical professionals. And the tests are being given within 72 hours.

The reason medical professionals are being offered the test is to help study the virus. The general public will not be given them due to the risk that people will stop social distancing

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Yes- so says the government but do you believe in everything they and media say? This test has been used successfully in other countries and has very good history now so I’m satisfied with that ... I would have received results within couple of days ... I’m more inclined towards too much information out there is not good just in case it jeopardises what gov says.

I believe in what I see and I see medical staff being tested and getting results "

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This test is CE marked and approved by FDA and it’s been used long enough now so I do trust it based on medical background. .... what I see is people leaving hospital dead and dead of everything but coronavirus with documents attached that they’ve died of Covid ... but I don’t want to get into this conversation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OK so I'm confused without reading all the thread. The only antibody tests that are accurate are the ones that are done via a blood sample that a medical professional can take. Ones offered by other companies for testing at home are not approved due to poor accuracy.

The only people currently being offered accurate antibody tests are medical professionals. And the tests are being given within 72 hours.

The reason medical professionals are being offered the test is to help study the virus. The general public will not be given them due to the risk that people will stop social distancing

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Yes- so says the government but do you believe in everything they and media say? This test has been used successfully in other countries and has very good history now so I’m satisfied with that ... I would have received results within couple of days ... I’m more inclined towards too much information out there is not good just in case it jeopardises what gov says.

I believe in what I see and I see medical staff being tested and getting results

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This test is CE marked and approved by FDA and it’s been used long enough now so I do trust it based on medical background. .... what I see is people leaving hospital dead and dead of everything but coronavirus with documents attached that they’ve died of Covid ... but I don’t want to get into this conversation "

I give up

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"

what I see is people leaving hospital dead and dead of everything but coronavirus with documents attached that they’ve died of Covid "

Are you a coroner?

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich


"I’ve used a test that has been proven to work well enough in other countries, 100% sensitivity ...

What does 100% sensitivity mean ?

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Sensitivity It’s percentage of people that have been tested and test results were accurate (specifity) no test will ever be 100%"

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Sensitivity In some tests is at 100% - number of people tested - specifity ranges though widely ... there are tests with 90% sensitivity and 90% specifity

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich


"I really really dislike any conspiracy theories, I love science, maths, REAL numbers and facts ....

BUT today when I’ve asked for my results the lab that tested my blood for antibodies told me that they can’t share the result with me as the MRHA has told them not to reveal any information with anyone. No test results will be given to people who made tests.

I hope there are some people on here who could throw an advice of legality of this aspect - I understand that your personal information can not be withheld from you especially if you’ve applied for it?

I do not intend to be flippant in any way - but putting your query on Matt Hancock's Twitter feed might be worth a punt.

Also, his performance regarding testing has been lamentable. If you want to know how bad, listen to 'More Or Less' on Radio 4. The next instalment is tomorrow at 09.00.

They have been keeping an eye on his misinformation (or lying bullshit, if you prefer) for weeks."

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Thanks - I certainly will!

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich


"Definitely a government bashing thread. No matter what people are saying regards tests she’s got her own agenda "

My agenda is to get my test results full stop - it’s a legal matter

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By *ymph and ManicCouple
over a year ago

North East


"OK so I'm confused without reading all the thread. The only antibody tests that are accurate are the ones that are done via a blood sample that a medical professional can take. Ones offered by other companies for testing at home are not approved due to poor accuracy.

The only people currently being offered accurate antibody tests are medical professionals. And the tests are being given within 72 hours.

The reason medical professionals are being offered the test is to help study the virus. The general public will not be given them due to the risk that people will stop social distancing

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Yes- so says the government but do you believe in everything they and media say? This test has been used successfully in other countries and has very good history now so I’m satisfied with that ... I would have received results within couple of days ... I’m more inclined towards too much information out there is not good just in case it jeopardises what gov says.

I believe in what I see and I see medical staff being tested and getting results

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This test is CE marked and approved by FDA and it’s been used long enough now so I do trust it based on medical background. .... what I see is people leaving hospital dead and dead of everything but coronavirus with documents attached that they’ve died of Covid ... but I don’t want to get into this conversation

I give up "
... for fear of repeating self. She’s on her own agenda. Loads have told her but nothing sinking in. Another government bashing thread. Disguised of course but still the same.

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By *ymph and ManicCouple
over a year ago

North East


"Definitely a government bashing thread. No matter what people are saying regards tests she’s got her own agenda

My agenda is to get my test results full stop - it’s a legal matter "
... you’ve been told by many. ... there’s loads of scams going. There’s loads of Moneymakers our there. And unfortunately loads of fearful people who want to be tested.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

How would knowing you test positive or negative for antibodies affect your lifestyle?

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich


"Absolutely entitled to access your personal medical record by law, data protection act. I've done it, you have to contact the 'data controller' usually GP, consultant, hospital trust and formally request the info. They have to reply by a set number of days. Just google 'accessing medical records' it's all on there

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Thank you, that’s what I thought however the reply I have received states that they can not reveal the results due to government guidance, the test has been processed by the lab but they are not willing to share info .... I will dig deeper ...

Tell them you are making a Subject Access Request for all personal information they hold about you, including the test result, under the GDPR. They may charge a fee (up to £10 I believe is considered reasonable) but cannot refuse except in very specific cases.

Address the request to the Data Protection Officer and advise that if there is an undue delay or refusal you will refer the matter to the Data Protection Commissioner.

That should do the job. If you prrsonally paid for the test there's also the option of using contract law - they entered into a contract & by refusing to provide the results they are in breach of contract. At the very least you should get your money back."

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This and few other answered my question so thanks, legal route it is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Without 'goverment bashing' as you put it the sudden intervention of a Government body in private testing arrangements carried out largely in labs already registered & accredited with the relevant bodies in the uk at a time when the Government is coming under increasing pressure over it's handling of the crisis is suspicious to put it mildly.

More so given the same tests are being offered via government programs to select groups - you have to wonder why they are so worried about the public having access to the same tests they are using themselves.

I do NOT believe in attributing everyting to conspiracy but anyone who isn't at least a litte suspicious about this is either blindly trusting or willfully ignoring what they're seeing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"there’s loads of scams going. There’s loads of Moneymakers our there. And unfortunately loads of fearful people who want to be tested. "

I think it's quite obvious from the postings made that the OP has done her research and isn't being scammed.

There is a healty, legitimate market for private medical care & testing in the UK and many such providers have been offering legitimate PCR & Antibody testing for Covid for some time now.

Paying for testing privately is (or should be!) a matter of personal choice, nothing more.

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By *ymph and ManicCouple
over a year ago

North East


"there’s loads of scams going. There’s loads of Moneymakers our there. And unfortunately loads of fearful people who want to be tested.

I think it's quite obvious from the postings made that the OP has done her research and isn't being scammed.

There is a healty, legitimate market for private medical care & testing in the UK and many such providers have been offering legitimate PCR & Antibody testing for Covid for some time now.

Paying for testing privately is (or should be!) a matter of personal choice, nothing more."
. But she hasn’t received her results ??? And blaming the government for it.

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

More so given the same tests are being offered via government programs to select groups - you have to wonder why they are so worried about the public having access to the same tests they are using themselves.

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. Yet it's not the same tests being offered to select groups. Blood tests taken from venepuncture are being done. At the moment only medical professionals and those doing clinical trials are having them as they don't take up a valuable appointment as they are done in the medical setting where they work. It's not rocket science. Tests done via venepuncture will akways be more accurate.

Even if a HIV patient had a positive finger prick test he would be rechecked with a venepuncture test to make sure it's conclusive

There is not the resources to test the whole nation via venepuncture.

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich

.. But she hasn’t received her results ??? And blaming the government for it.

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I am because the government has since few days told all labs not to issue any antibody test results to anyone - how many times do I have to repeat this - go on gov website and official statement this regards has been issued.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

. Yet it's not the same tests being offered to select groups. Blood tests taken from venepuncture are being done. At the moment only medical professionals and those doing clinical trials are having them as they don't take up a valuable appointment as they are done in the medical setting where they work. It's not rocket science. Tests done via venepuncture will akways be more accurate.

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Please show your evidence to support this (incorrect) assertion.

You appear to be confusing 'instant' lateral-flow tests (which are considerably less accurate but do NOT require a laboritory) with the tests on offer from these providers.

The tests in question are laboritory conducted ELISA tests and are both specific and accurate. The method used to obtain the sample has no discernable impact on the quality or accuracy of the result.

And they ARE the same tests, made by Abbott or Roche who are (so far) the only approved suppliers for the uk.

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It could be that your contractual relationship is with the vendor selling the test, whereas the lab is also contracted with them. It may be due to confidentiality, including GDPR, that each company in the supply chain will only provide the results to the people who they have a contractual relationship with.

Perhaps revisit the sellers information, as they will probably detail how results and notification is handled.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


".. But she hasn’t received her results ??? And blaming the government for it.

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I am because the government has since few days told all labs not to issue any antibody test results to anyone - how many times do I have to repeat this - go on gov website and official statement this regards has been issued."

Just seen this after I posted my earlier points.

It's probably going to have to be once the government lift their restrictions, as labs etc may violate the terms of their licence, if they were to break government stipulated terms.

It's not the best news, once you have paid for something.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

Ok, was it an abbot anti body test kit that you were told was for home testing that you did ?

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By *ess37 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Nantwich


"Absolutely entitled to access your personal medical record by law, data protection act. I've done it, you have to contact the 'data controller' usually GP, consultant, hospital trust and formally request the info. They have to reply by a set number of days. Just google 'accessing medical records' it's all on there

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Thank you, that’s what I thought however the reply I have received states that they can not reveal the results due to government guidance, the test has been processed by the lab but they are not willing to share info .... I will dig deeper ...

Tell them you are making a Subject Access Request for all personal information they hold about you, including the test result, under the GDPR. They may charge a fee (up to £10 I believe is considered reasonable) but cannot refuse except in very specific cases.

Address the request to the Data Protection Officer and advise that if there is an undue delay or refusal you will refer the matter to the Data Protection Commissioner.

That should do the job. If you prrsonally paid for the test there's also the option of using contract law - they entered into a contract & by refusing to provide the results they are in breach of contract. At the very least you should get your money back."

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I’ve sent an email to lab yesterday using your advice, I’ve received my results today ... that’s how quickly it works ..., thanks again

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge

This is a sinister turn of events. The government doesn't want people to find out they have had the disease because if you have had it then you have no need to follow any of the advice about social distancing. The suggestion is that over 17% of Londoners have had it so if they do the test and find that out, there will be a lot of people saying that they don't need to follow the guidelines.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"I’ve received my results today ... that’s how quickly it works ..., thanks again "

Are you happy with your results ?

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch


".. But she hasn’t received her results ??? And blaming the government for it.

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I am because the government has since few days told all labs not to issue any antibody test results to anyone - how many times do I have to repeat this - go on gov website and official statement this regards has been issued."

and why do you think that is ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So I’ve spent the whole day taking bloods from nhs employees for Covid antibodies, this test is only currently being given to nhs staff so I personally wouldn’t take any other test.

Yes I had mine done today too.

Sexybrunette

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is a sinister turn of events. The government doesn't want people to find out they have had the disease because if you have had it then you have no need to follow any of the advice about social distancing. The suggestion is that over 17% of Londoners have had it so if they do the test and find that out, there will be a lot of people saying that they don't need to follow the guidelines.

"

because it gives people a false sense of assurance before enough research has been done ... it another guaranteed you wont get it again and even if you dont you could still carey and spread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I really really dislike any conspiracy theories, I love science, maths, REAL numbers and facts ....

BUT today when I’ve asked for my results the lab that tested my blood for antibodies told me that they can’t share the result with me as the MRHA has told them not to reveal any information with anyone. No test results will be given to people who made tests.

I hope there are some people on here who could throw an advice of legality of this aspect - I understand that your personal information can not be withheld from you especially if you’ve applied for it?

"

i really really dislike conspiracy theories but here is my thread where i will provide multiple of them that i believe in

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By *r_thickdick777Man
over a year ago

Dover

I was tested 2 weeks ago and received results the next day but phone call followed by an e-mail with an attachment very efficient and negative I must add

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By *oft_SensualTV/TS
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Send a GDPR request to the relevant trust covering your area, specifying information they hold concerning your COV19 test result(s).

They have 30 days to get the info to you, or face severe penalties as the data controller/processor.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I healthcare worker and had my Antibody test done this morning along with the rest of my colleagues. I waited for ten minutes to get my result. It looked like a pregnancy testing kit and you could see the line (or lines in some cases) developing.

We were fortunate to get ours done through work but there are many unscrupulous companies out there offering bogus tests.

V

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport


".. But she hasn’t received her results ??? And blaming the government for it.

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I am because the government has since few days told all labs not to issue any antibody test results to anyone - how many times do I have to repeat this - go on gov website and official statement this regards has been issued."

Could you please give the actual quote and/or reference to the gov website for this official statement.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My antibodies test came back negative

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By *andomfodCouple
over a year ago

walsall

If they don't tell you, how are you meant to know whether you need to isolate? Something feels off here.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"If they don't tell you, how are you meant to know whether you need to isolate? Something feels off here."

You don't need to isolate whether your anti body test is positive or negative

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


".. But she hasn’t received her results ??? And blaming the government for it.

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I am because the government has since few days told all labs not to issue any antibody test results to anyone - how many times do I have to repeat this - go on gov website and official statement this regards has been issued.

Could you please give the actual quote and/or reference to the gov website for this official statement."

Sorry I'll get a block if I put a link but it's an MHRA document released on the government Covid site.

It was also widely reported in the Media after abbot the manufacturer stepped in

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

The MHRA is asking providers of laboratory-based COVID-19 antibody testing services using capillary blood collected by a fingerprick, to temporarily stop providing this service until home collection of this sample type has been properly assessed and validated for use with these laboratory tests.

This does not affect rapid, point of care tests or laboratory tests performed using blood taken from the vein.

The Agency has recently updated its guidance on home antibody testing kits, to ensure that the public and industry have the latest information on the reliability of test results and what they mean.

Graeme Tunbridge, MHRA Interim Director of Devices, comments:

Patient safety and public health are our main priorities and it is in the interests of everyone for antibody tests to be as reliable and meaningful as they can be.

There are several UK providers of testing services who offer COVID-19 antibody testing using a fingerprick sample of capillary blood collected in a small container.

We are asking all providers of laboratory-based COVID-19 antibody testing services using capillary blood collected by a fingerprick to temporarily stop providing this service until home collection of this sample type has been properly assessed and validated for use with these laboratory tests.

Use of unvalidated sample types may lead to unreliable results and as such we are working closely with the service providers, laboratories and test manufacturers to resolve the regulatory and patient safety issues.

People who have purchased one of these sampling kits, and received an antibody test result, should not consider the result to be reliable and should not take any action based on it.

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By *appycouple300Couple
over a year ago

North Dorset

My wife is being tested and she WILL get the results. It’s pointless otherwise (she is a nurse)

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"My wife is being tested and she WILL get the results. It’s pointless otherwise (she is a nurse)"

If it's an official test there's no problem

Only the scammer ones which should never have been sold as "home test" kits

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

I’ve had the proper blood test, antibody positive result - no problem with getting the result as it was done by a proper hospital lab and no surprise as I tested positive for covid in April!

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"I’ve had the proper blood test, antibody positive result - no problem with getting the result as it was done by a proper hospital lab and no surprise as I tested positive for covid in April!"

But good to know. Some people who have been infected have no or very few antibodies.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"I’ve had the proper blood test, antibody positive result - no problem with getting the result as it was done by a proper hospital lab and no surprise as I tested positive for covid in April!

But good to know. Some people who have been infected have no or very few antibodies."

Is that the official result of the government study?

I didn't think it was released yet and the results were purely indicative not quantative ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone willing to bet there turns out to be no statistically significant difference in the accuracy of the results providing the sample is of adequate volume & uncontaminated?

Spoiler : I know that several private labs have already run in-house validation to confirm the accuracy of their testing protocols. There is NO incentive for them to offer inaccurate testing and MANY reasons why they wouldn't.

This whole 'validation' excercise smells of political meddling to me.

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By *xelciscoMan
over a year ago

Reading/bracknell

There are several issues at stake.. First is there are already a few outlets that have sold tests which werent approved by the MHRA. And also imported tests with inadequate specifications etc. So I suspect the MHRA is doibg a cross market assessment of all tests.

They dont want patients to be falsely reassured by a negative test and potentially spread infections further.

Also if you did the sampling yourself your most likely will get a negative. Sampling is sensitive.. And there is also lack of consensus as to what source is best to sample.

Please be patient and stay away from people in the meantime.

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By *xelciscoMan
over a year ago

Reading/bracknell

Validation is a clinical necessity.

But given the state of science on this vurus, the false negative rate is probably high.

Axel

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Validation is a clinical necessity.

But given the state of science on this vurus, the false negative rate is probably high.

Axel"

I am not disputing the necessity for validation, nor are the reputable labs carrying out the tests. I will again draw a very clear distinction between laboratory conducted testing (ELISA) and 'instant' home-based testing (lateral flow, mostly). ELISA testing needs to be done in a lab and is considered accurate & sensitive - this is what's being discussed here. The 'instant' tests designed for home use are nowhere near as accurate/sensitive and are not something I'd recommend to anyone at present.

The argument at the minute seems to be whether the acquisition of the sample from a finger or from a vein impacts on the accuracy of the result. All the information I can find suggests it does not (in the interest of honesty, this generally comes from the labs themselves) which would seem perfectly reasonable assuming the sample volume is sufficient for accurate testing and the sample is not contaminated.

I'm still very much of the opinion that, at best, the 'delay' is due to an over-cautious approach and is far more likely to be due to political pressure to restrict the availability of these tests and control the flow of information to the public at large.

As an aside, that strategy isn't working - many of the private vendors are still offering testing but with the proviso you'll need to have the sample collected at a clinic or by a private nurse. Not really a major obstacle to those who seriously want tested and it doesn't actually seem to be increasing the cost much either.

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