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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago

Halloween Decks are up and looking fabulous

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

FFS

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

So the herd immunity comment then?

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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago

Halloween Decks are up and looking fabulous

"So the herd immunity comment then?

Nerd immunity?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok?"

Should’ve gone Barnard Castle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok?

Should’ve gone Barnard Castle."

Appears he would have been fine to see it.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

"So the herd immunity comment then?

Nerd immunity? "

Turns out he didn’t mention it

(allegedly)

Oh the outrage a few months back.

Tasty

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

@_hetalkingstove

Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Flipping heck this still banging on ?

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok?"

Almost as good as It’s physically impossible for me to sweat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok?

Should’ve gone Barnard Castle.

Appears he would have been fine to see it."

See what ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok?

Should’ve gone Barnard Castle.

Appears he would have been fine to see it.

See what ?"

Barnard Castle.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Flipping heck this still banging on ?

Yep, they must find something to be mad about!

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

"Flipping heck this still banging on ?

Yep, they must find something to be mad about! "

Impotent rage.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok?

Should’ve gone Barnard Castle.

Appears he would have been fine to see it.

See what ?

Barnard Castle."

It's a town

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"Flipping heck this still banging on ?

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that was my thoughts. Plenty more important things to discuss

What About all the positive news that means social distancing may soon be able to be lifted between small groups of people... or that greece and Spain are trying to encourage British tourists back from July. Or that due to such low numbers of infection the vaccine is not able to be tested sufficiently x

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok?

Should’ve gone Barnard Castle.

Appears he would have been fine to see it.

See what ?

Barnard Castle.

It's a town

All this fuss about it I might stop and see it on my way to Northumberland.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok?

Should’ve gone Barnard Castle.

Appears he would have been fine to see it.

See what ?

Barnard Castle.

It's a town

All this fuss about it I might stop and see it on my way to Northumberland. "

It's a nice market town.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok?

Should’ve gone Barnard Castle.

Appears he would have been fine to see it.

See what ?

Barnard Castle.

It's a town

Ok never been.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Flipping heck this still banging on ?

Yep, they must find something to be mad about! "

Baldrick in Black Adder goes forth . His poem with changed words , moan moan moan , MOAN MOAN MOAN

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Flipping heck this still banging on ?

that was my thoughts. Plenty more important things to discuss

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

The press hate him because he said they are irreverent, tried to nail him and failed unfortunately for the press they told one to many lies which he can disprove.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Flipping heck this still banging on ?

that was my thoughts. Plenty more important things to discuss

Come on , that’s intelligent reporting That’s boring

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Anyone see the numbers today. I know it’s a bank holiday and not the full picture. But encouraging.

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By *quarerootMan
over a year ago

Helston

"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok?"

Yes... if you don’t feel you’re likely to have COVID-19, you’re allowed a half bottle of brandy instead to test the theory

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"@_hetalkingstove

Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare. "

If you want to disagree with my initial post please do so by engaging with what I said directly.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Anyone see the numbers today. I know it’s a bank holiday and not the full picture. But encouraging. "

Yep, I really think we are heading in the right direction

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. "

All our kids are up and away now .

But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill.

We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe.

Never mind 250 mile.

Lockdown or no lockdown.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. "

His statement just raised even more questions.

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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago

Halloween Decks are up and looking fabulous

if this goes to 'From The Horses Mouth 4'

Will someone volunteer - I intend finshing this wine and I might just get soap box lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who wants an ice cream ?

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"@_hetalkingstove

Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare.

If you want to disagree with my initial post please do so by engaging with what I said directly.

OK, I think taking his child to somewhere he might have more support wasn't wrong and as a parent I'd have done the same thing.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Who wants an ice cream ? "

Ooo yes please, I wouldn't mind one of those raspberry magnums

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Mr c only created this link to create....an advert for stay at home holidays and tourist hotspots ...next week he is driving to Barry island

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now.

His statement just raised even more questions."

I don't think so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now.

All our kids are up and away now .

But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill.

We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe.

Never mind 250 mile.

Lockdown or no lockdown."

Precisely

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who wants an ice cream ?

Ooo yes please, I wouldn't mind one of those raspberry magnums

There you go nice & cold enjoy

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Who wants an ice cream ?

Ooo yes please, I wouldn't mind one of those raspberry magnums

There you go nice & cold enjoy "

Thanks!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now.

His statement just raised even more questions.

I don't think so. "

Good for you

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By *musedforlifeMan
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

So on the basis of his wife being slightly ill he took his family 260 miles away.

None of them have been tested or confirmed to have had Covid-19.

A quick internet search will tell you that his wife was born on April 12th.

Rather than drive back, due to his poor eyesight, which he tested by driving to a tourist attraction exposing him and his family and the public in general to the dangers of an accident, he could've used public transport. First class all the way to london on the train.

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By *eilde HoarWoman
over a year ago

In a wax coated bubble

"Flipping heck this still banging on ?

Yep, they must find something to be mad about!

Impotent rage. "

Lack of sex

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By *ymph and ManicCouple
over a year ago

North East

"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok?

Should’ve gone Barnard Castle.

Appears he would have been fine to see it.

See what ?

Barnard Castle.

It's a town

Ok never been."
... one street couple Old style bars and antique shops Etc etc you get the style of it.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"@_hetalkingstove

Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare.

If you want to disagree with my initial post please do so by engaging with what I said directly.

OK, I think taking his child to somewhere he might have more support wasn't wrong and as a parent I'd have done the same thing. "

That doesn't have anything to do with what I wrote.

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By *ymph and ManicCouple
over a year ago

North East

"So on the basis of his wife being slightly ill he took his family 260 miles away.

None of them have been tested or confirmed to have had Covid-19.

A quick internet search will tell you that his wife was born on April 12th.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"So on the basis of his wife being slightly ill he took his family 260 miles away.

None of them have been tested or confirmed to have had Covid-19.

A quick internet search will tell you that his wife was born on April 12th.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"@_hetalkingstove

Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare. "

Interesting idea, so that would mean you cannot comment on anything a man says or does?

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"@_hetalkingstove

Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare.

If you want to disagree with my initial post please do so by engaging with what I said directly.

OK, I think taking his child to somewhere he might have more support wasn't wrong and as a parent I'd have done the same thing.

That doesn't have anything to do with what I wrote.

Yes it does, you said you don't think it was an exceptional circumstance, I said I don't think what he did was wrong. I disagreed with you, protecting your child is not wrong and it is an exceptional circumstance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So on the basis of his wife being slightly ill he took his family 260 miles away.

None of them have been tested or confirmed to have had Covid-19.

A quick internet search will tell you that his wife was born on April 12th.

His wife cannot drive, well thats what he thinks apparently

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The one thing I feel sorry for Boris about....he wanted this job so much, now he has it, nobody believes he is actually running the show. He will forever go down as the PM who's adviser did all the PM'ing!!

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"@_hetalkingstove

Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare.

Interesting idea, so that would mean you cannot comment on anything a man says or does?"

I didn't say he couldn't comment, stop trying to cause problems.

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By *exy7Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"The one thing I feel sorry for Boris about....he wanted this job so much, now he has it, nobody believes he is actually running the show. He will forever go down as the PM who's adviser did all the PM'ing!!

Watch yourself, you're talking about our new Churchill!

No sympathy. I have enough respect for myself not to apply for jobs I couldn't do. This guy is a thicko who thinks that because he can come up with ten quotations in Latin, he is clever. Sorry, that may do for the Daily Mil readers but it doesn't cut it for me.

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

After actually watching it, and I admit I am not a fan of his and did think he should probably resign, I may have changed my views as it all sounds pretty justified.

Now I don't have children, so I don't know how parents worry but if I can show a bit of empathy, then I shall at this time.

I just think he should have done the statement earlier than he has done, rather than come across as he did, maybe lessons will be learnt?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Flipping heck this still banging on ?

that was my thoughts. Plenty more important things to discuss

I was looking for your quarantine thread earlier. I wanted to post the good news about Spain.

I think the media are just taking the piss now. I agree, there are more important and positive things going on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now.

All our kids are up and away now .

But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill.

We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe.

Never mind 250 mile.

Lockdown or no lockdown."

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Should he feel bad and apologise because of the “resources” (His parents farm) available to him?

What on Earth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"@_hetalkingstove

Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare.

Interesting idea, so that would mean you cannot comment on anything a man says or does?

I didn't say he couldn't comment, stop trying to cause problems. "

So what has having children got to do with anything, why would you ask if he had them?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

I hope no one is gullible enough to believe the story he told. I think he just made things worse for himself

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

"I hope no one is gullible enough to believe the story he told. I think he just made things worse for himself

Nothing unbelievable about going for a drive because you can’t see properly!

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

It's not like the duo of him and Boris would lie would they?

Lies lies and more lies

A story to cover every time and place he was seen on a family day out

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"@_hetalkingstove

Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare.

Interesting idea, so that would mean you cannot comment on anything a man says or does?

I didn't say he couldn't comment, stop trying to cause problems.

So what has having children got to do with anything, why would you ask if he had them?"

Because he's commenting on whether he thinks it was exceptional circumstances, until you have kids you can't possibly understand how it feels to be in a situation where you worry about them.

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By *musedforlifeMan
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"So on the basis of his wife being slightly ill he took his family 260 miles away.

None of them have been tested or confirmed to have had Covid-19.

A quick internet search will tell you that his wife was born on April 12th.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

Anyways, I'm going to leave you guys to it, enjoy the rest of your bank holiday Monday!

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

Thinks more of his kids than he does about his parents anyway

They are in the at risk group not his kids

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hope no one is gullible enough to believe the story he told. I think he just made things worse for himself

Nothing unbelievable about going for a drive because you can’t see properly!

I don’t understand how anyone can accept that excuse?

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

Rather than having reasonable justification he seemed to give just a few excuses for spreading a virus potentially 300m.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"@_hetalkingstove

Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare.

If you want to disagree with my initial post please do so by engaging with what I said directly.

OK, I think taking his child to somewhere he might have more support wasn't wrong and as a parent I'd have done the same thing.

That doesn't have anything to do with what I wrote.

The phrase 'exceptional circumstance' usually means one that is highly unusual. In this case, being a parent who thinks they might have covid19 is not highly unusual.

If you want, you can interpret 'exceptional circumstance' to mean 'extremely important to you'

As I said, I don't that is how the vast majority of people would have interpreted it, because loads of parents have very obviously thought they needed to stay at home whilst dealing with covid19, and have done so.

But the situation has now changed, and parents should take advantage of this.

That was the sum total of my post.

I'll make this my last response to you on this subject - I don't have patience to have to explain my post a third time, as I suspect will happen.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"I hope no one is gullible enough to believe the story he told. I think he just made things worse for himself

apparently there are...

I'd have more respect for him if he just came out and said "i look my wife out on her birthday and the kid to barnard castle for a day out"

I get it... anyone who has been there will tell you its a lovely place!!!

they whole eye blurry test drive business, i am surprised he kept a straight face

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By *one_wolf.Man
over a year ago

Chatham

"Thinks more of his kids than he does about his parents anyway

They are in the at risk group not his kids"

Why he never crossed paths with them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"@_hetalkingstove

Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare.

Interesting idea, so that would mean you cannot comment on anything a man says or does?

I didn't say he couldn't comment, stop trying to cause problems.

So what has having children got to do with anything, why would you ask if he had them?

Because he's commenting on whether he thinks it was exceptional circumstances, until you have kids you can't possibly understand how it feels to be in a situation where you worry about them. "

And I’m saying that unless you are a man you can’t possibly understand anything we do or say and our reasons for it.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

Does The Gov websites need a new warning about dodgy eyes after having Covid? And if so do we need to go to Barnard Castle to make sure they are OK?

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By *rmrspumpCouple
over a year ago

narnia

"Rather than having reasonable justification he seemed to give just a few excuses for spreading a virus potentially 300m."

Here's what happened.. The wife felt a bit iffy, they knew they were going to have to isolate and thought "here, I know! let's go to the folk`s place, it'll be a lot nicer doing it up there than in London.." and that's what they did, and had a jolly nice time with a nice day trip thrown in. We all know it. All the rest of this is just pure fucking spin to make it look less shit. Is it a hanging offence? No. Is it a resignation offence? In his position, yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hope no one is gullible enough to believe the story he told. I think he just made things worse for himself

apparently there are...

I'd have more respect for him if he just came out and said "i look my wife out on her birthday and the kid to barnard castle for a day out"

I get it... anyone who has been there will tell you its a lovely place!!!

they whole eye blurry test drive business, i am surprised he kept a straight face"

I'm just surprised they didn't call to the pizza Express...oh hang on it doesn't have one

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By *arksxMan
over a year ago

Leicester / London

"I hope no one is gullible enough to believe the story he told. I think he just made things worse for himself

Nothing unbelievable about going for a drive because you can’t see properly!

I don’t understand how anyone can accept that excuse?"

His lack of contrition and humility and parts of the public willing to except that is what I find hardest to believe.

The support for him seems to be people agreeing they would do something similar for their family...if you want to admit you guilt fine.

But this guy is the chief advisor the prime minister and actually created thai policy and days later decided parts of it where open tennis interpretation

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"@_hetalkingstove

Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare.

If you want to disagree with my initial post please do so by engaging with what I said directly.

OK, I think taking his child to somewhere he might have more support wasn't wrong and as a parent I'd have done the same thing. "

..that's fine, but there are consequences to those actions.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Rather than having reasonable justification he seemed to give just a few excuses for spreading a virus potentially 300m.

Nail accurately planted on the head!

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"I hope no one is gullible enough to believe the story he told. I think he just made things worse for himself

Nothing unbelievable about going for a drive because you can’t see properly!

...to a well known beauty spot...on your wife's birthday

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By *kstallionMan
over a year ago

milton keynes

"Thinks more of his kids than he does about his parents anyway

They are in the at risk group not his kids

Why he never crossed paths with them "

Indeed

It seems some on here only hear the bits they want to.

The media have not had their blood yet so expect it to go on longer.

D.C. has made his statement of events and seems to have caught the media of guard as they nearly all asked the same question.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

I just think he should have done the statement earlier than he has done, rather than come across as he did, maybe lessons will be learnt? "

..and maybe have asked his employer beforehand how a 260 mile round trip (with stops/detours) in order to self isolate near his family might look if revealed to the public!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. "

Not a chance

He's trying desperately to spin it, which is his job. What he did was at the height of the epidemic, when it was most important that people stayed put. Driving hundreds of miles, just in case something might happen, isn't even an emergency. Everyone else locked down because the government told us to, especially over Easter.

His flimsiest of excuses are pathetic, when he's been attending the SAGE emergency committee influencing the country on how to behave.

His judgment is severely deficient and he should be sacked from our payroll.

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By *exy7Man
over a year ago

Bristol

We live in a society that has the attention span of gnats. Two days on the same topic is boring for those poor people. That’s exactly what the gvt is hoping for.

So ok the guy drove 260 miles and he shouldn’t have had and he drove to Barnard Castle for an eye test. Game over. The gnats have been lied to, they need their episode of Eastenders. Who gives a toss if the guy who’s running the shop is a liar?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Does The Gov websites need a new warning about dodgy eyes after having Covid? And if so do we need to go to Barnard Castle to make sure they are OK?

It's going to be a new centre of excellence for visual acuity

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

I just think he should have done the statement earlier than he has done, rather than come across as he did, maybe lessons will be learnt?

..and maybe have asked his employer beforehand how a 260 mile round trip (with stops/detours) in order to self isolate near his family might look if revealed to the public!

I totally agree! Like I said I'm not a fan nor a parent, I just know that maybe my dad might just have done the same thing, I do know it is bullshit, but I can't comment any further.

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By *kstallionMan
over a year ago

milton keynes

"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now.

Not a chance

His flimsiest of excuses are pathetic, when he's been attending the SAGE emergency committee influencing the country on how to behave.

His judgment is severely deficient and he should be sacked from our payroll. "

Ironically the hate filled people harassing him outside his home have given him the excuse to travel. If they had not behaved in that way he would not of had the excuse. Self inflicted on their part.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Indeed

It seems some on here only hear the bits they want to.

We've only heard Cummings version of events, which he's likely to sanitise for damage limitation purposes.

Do you honestly believe that nonsense about his trip to Barnard Castle? The detail in that fairy tale excuse calls into question the veracity in the rest of what he said!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still thirty miles drive to test your eyesight, I dare anyone to say that is a reasonable?

Does question his judgement on many things.

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By *vbride1963TV/TS
over a year ago

E.K . Glasgow

"I hope no one is gullible enough to believe the story he told. I think he just made things worse for himself

apparently there are...

I'd have more respect for him if he just came out and said "i look my wife out on her birthday and the kid to barnard castle for a day out"

I get it... anyone who has been there will tell you its a lovely place!!!

they whole eye blurry test drive business, i am surprised he kept a straight face"

Best choice of excuses that they could use and it took at least an extra half an hour to pick the best of a bad bunch .

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By *exy7Man
over a year ago

Bristol

Indeed

It seems some on here only hear the bits they want to.

We've only heard Cummings version of events, which he's likely to sanitise for damage limitation purposes.

Do you honestly believe that nonsense about his trip to Barnard Castle? The detail in that fairy tale excuse calls into question the veracity in the rest of what he said!

Exactly! All those details are laughable. He almost told us how many branches the tree above the bench they sat on had. Pathetic!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now.

Not a chance

His flimsiest of excuses are pathetic, when he's been attending the SAGE emergency committee influencing the country on how to behave.

His judgment is severely deficient and he should be sacked from our payroll.

Ironically the hate filled people harassing him outside his home have given him the excuse to travel. If they had not behaved in that way he would not of had the excuse. Self inflicted on their part.

All those rabblerousers outside his house during lockdown. When the coppers were nicking any more then 2 people together.

I wander how they missed them eh

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now.

Not a chance

His flimsiest of excuses are pathetic, when he's been attending the SAGE emergency committee influencing the country on how to behave.

His judgment is severely deficient and he should be sacked from our payroll. "

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By *kstallionMan
over a year ago

milton keynes

Indeed

It seems some on here only hear the bits they want to.

We've only heard Cummings version of events, which he's likely to sanitise for damage limitation purposes.

Do you honestly believe that nonsense about his trip to Barnard Castle? The detail in that fairy tale excuse calls into question the veracity in the rest of what he said!

Well who better than the accused to say what happened. I struggled with some aspects of it but he has accounted for all the sightings/trips and openly saying many of the media reports were totally false-shock horror. The reporters obviously forgot to have a chat beforehand as they mostly asked the same question. I expect many will not believe it but its up to them to prove it especially when trying to get someone sacked. If they can prove his events are false then fair enough sack him. If not move on

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By *kstallionMan
over a year ago

milton keynes

"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now.

Not a chance

His flimsiest of excuses are pathetic, when he's been attending the SAGE emergency committee influencing the country on how to behave.

His judgment is severely deficient and he should be sacked from our payroll.

Ironically the hate filled people harassing him outside his home have given him the excuse to travel. If they had not behaved in that way he would not of had the excuse. Self inflicted on their part.

All those rabblerousers outside his house during lockdown. When the coppers were nicking any more then 2 people together.

I wander how they missed them eh

Must be the same coppers that missed the reporters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To the people saying you would drive any distance for a sick child, would you then put said child in the car with you while you checked out how your eyesight and health effected the safety of your driving by taking a 60 mile trip? Its utter bs, dont buy it.

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By *exy7Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now.

Not a chance

His flimsiest of excuses are pathetic, when he's been attending the SAGE emergency committee influencing the country on how to behave.

His judgment is severely deficient and he should be sacked from our payroll.

Ironically the hate filled people harassing him outside his home have given him the excuse to travel. If they had not behaved in that way he would not of had the excuse. Self inflicted on their part.

Cummings and his mates have made the life of hundreds of thousands of EU citizens pretty miserable for four years. This clown has also contributed to racism and hatred that have gone up since the Brexit thing. I’m not going to feel sorry for this leech because he has ten journalists around his car for 40 secs. He can get lost and tell his fairy tales to whoever believes them.

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By *erry bull1Man
over a year ago

doncaster

Should have gone to spec savers

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By *kstallionMan
over a year ago

milton keynes

"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now.

Not a chance

His flimsiest of excuses are pathetic, when he's been attending the SAGE emergency committee influencing the country on how to behave.

His judgment is severely deficient and he should be sacked from our payroll.

Ironically the hate filled people harassing him outside his home have given him the excuse to travel. If they had not behaved in that way he would not of had the excuse. Self inflicted on their part.

With most if not all of the press and opposition parties baying for his blood they should be able to prove he is guilty and lied. SKS is a legal expert so would like to hear from him. If he can't prove it then move on.

For the record I thought he should have resigned to avoid what's happened for the last few days

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Don't buy it.

And don't get into divide and conquer.

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By *aulaxd500TV/TS
over a year ago

Wigan

"Rather than having reasonable justification he seemed to give just a few excuses for spreading a virus potentially 300m.

Totally this

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"Should have gone to spec savers "

Or floated by the medical experts - the ones he saw pre 300 mile trip back..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"@_hetalkingstove

Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare.

Interesting idea, so that would mean you cannot comment on anything a man says or does?

I didn't say he couldn't comment, stop trying to cause problems.

So what has having children got to do with anything, why would you ask if he had them?

Because he's commenting on whether he thinks it was exceptional circumstances, until you have kids you can't possibly understand how it feels to be in a situation where you worry about them. "

Seriously forget the original reasons for the trip up north for a second.

Do You Honestly believe it was right for him to travel 30 miles in the wrong direction to Barnard Castle a known bueaty spot to then exit the car with his family for a walk down the by river on his wife's birthday no less!!!!

FML

Does he think we are stupid enough to buy his shitty excuse that it was a test drive due to eyesight issues?

KJ x

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By *ETSHAVEFUN1Man
over a year ago

bromsgrove

This is far more important than what dominic Cummings as done or not.

Can you focus on the real shit we are in.

Which no one as any answers.

He without sin cast the first stone.

Just a thought

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By *W1970Man
over a year ago

hamilton

He was in the wrong. We were told to stay at home. If you thought u had the virus you were to self isolate at home. He thought his wife had it. So did he stay at home? NO. He left his home drove 260 miles from his home. He broke his own fucking rules so why should we listen to what they say any more. As no matter what they say they will do what they want. Rules for them rules for the rest of us. Same old same old from the government

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

Herd immunity quickly comes with a vaccine and over a much longer period without

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

Indeed

It seems some on here only hear the bits they want to.

We've only heard Cummings version of events, which he's likely to sanitise for damage limitation purposes.

Do you honestly believe that nonsense about his trip to Barnard Castle? The detail in that fairy tale excuse calls into question the veracity in the rest of what he said!

Yes I have done something very similar when driving trucks, if I had been ill I would go for a drive in my car to be sure I was fit before getting in the truck.

It was only the journalist who made the test run about eyesight, he said his illness had made him weak and effected his eyesight not that her drove the car to test his eyesight.

But that is their job to try to big up non stories

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

Indeed

It seems some on here only hear the bits they want to.

We've only heard Cummings version of events, which he's likely to sanitise for damage limitation purposes.

Do you honestly believe that nonsense about his trip to Barnard Castle? The detail in that fairy tale excuse calls into question the veracity in the rest of what he said!

Yes I have done something very similar when driving trucks, if I had been ill I would go for a drive in my car to be sure I was fit before getting in the truck.

It was only the journalist who made the test run about eyesight, he said his illness had made him weak and effected his eyesight not that her drove the car to test his eyesight.

But that is their job to try to big up non stories"

So he said he wanted to test his eyesight as he felt his eyes were dodgy and that is the journalists fault?

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By *uffnmuffCouple
over a year ago

London

"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok?

Almost as good as It’s physically impossible for me to sweat. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is far more important than what dominic Cummings as done or not.

Can you focus on the real shit we are in.

Which no one as any answers.

He without sin cast the first stone.

Just a thought"

My behaviour throughout this has been beyond reproach

Fucking right I'm casting stones

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By *rmrspumpCouple
over a year ago

narnia

"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok?"

... With my 4yrold child in the car, my all consuming concern for whom made me drive 260 miles in the first place..

It's fucking laughable

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Yes I have done something very similar when driving trucks, if I had been ill I would go for a drive in my car to be sure I was fit before getting in the truck.

It was only the journalist who made the test run about eyesight, he said his illness had made him weak and effected his eyesight not that her drove the car to test his eyesight.

But that is their job to try to big up non stories"

Most normal people who are unsure whether theyre fit to drive wouldn't test whether theyre fit to drive by going for a drive.. illogical and seriously dangerous.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let's just face it, this country is broken. '5th largest economy in the world' we are constantly told, yet we have had a horrendous death toll. Boris said we had magnificent testing facilities at the start of this, it was clearly bullshit.

At the moment, I'm really not caring what Cummings did or didn't do, I'm more concerned that the truth about any of this virus can ever be gotten to. People have died that didn't need to a lot of families will never get the answers they deserve.

Two things things we have lost over this whole thing. Firstly, the notion that we are a great country is in tatters and, any small shred of integrity we had in our politics has just gone. These really are sad times.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Let's just face it, this country is broken. '5th largest economy in the world' we are constantly told, yet we have had a horrendous death toll. Boris said we had magnificent testing facilities at the start of this, it was clearly bullshit.

Too true and well said

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By *rmrspumpCouple
over a year ago

narnia

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By *rmrspumpCouple
over a year ago

narnia

If you can listen to the 'eye test' story and say "yes that sounds reasonable to me.." you are either an idiot or a fucking liar!

Allow me to elaborate..

1 if you think you may be unfit to drive you don't test the hypothesis with your family in the car

2 if you think you may be unfit to drive and you decide to test it by going for a drive potentially putting other drivers and pedestrians at risk you deserve to be jailed

3 his wife could have driven

4 the government could have sent a car to take them to London

5 on this 'test drive' they stopped to sightsee not once, but TWICE

Its laughable

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By *exy7Man
over a year ago

Bristol

I couldn’t agree more with the whole of your post especially the last paragraph. However, the image of this country has been severely damaged for a few years now. I often go to the continent for work and I can promise you that people are laughing their heads off at our politicians and at this country. The UK has always been well respected by a lot of countries especially in Europe but I know for sure that we have become a laughing stock over there.

As as country, we’ve always had a tendency to believe that we are better than other countries for some reason ( the war, the war, the War, the war etc...) but these are sobering moments.

The calibre of the people In this gvt is nothing short of abysmal! I mean we’ve known incompetent politicians in the past but this lot are really different league. Good job they can shit on the EU now and then to deflect attention but still, there are a scary bunch of clowns!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"@_hetalkingstove

Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare.

If you want to disagree with my initial post please do so by engaging with what I said directly.

OK, I think taking his child to somewhere he might have more support wasn't wrong and as a parent I'd have done the same thing.

That doesn't have anything to do with what I wrote.

The phrase 'exceptional circumstance' usually means one that is highly unusual. In this case, being a parent who thinks they might have covid19 is not highly unusual.

If you want, you can interpret 'exceptional circumstance' to mean 'extremely important to you'

But the situation has now changed, and parents should take advantage of this.

That was the sum total of my post.

I'll make this my last response to you on this subject - I don't have patience to have to explain my post a third time, as I suspect will happen. "

At the risk of dragging this all up again... the exceptional circumstance thing was written up mostly for victims of domestic or child abuse, after people were being killed/abused. That would be a definition of an exceptional circumstance that requires you to leave your maun residence. Not catching a virus in a pandemic.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"If you can listen to the 'eye test' story and say "yes that sounds reasonable to me.." you are either an idiot or a fucking liar!

Allow me to elaborate..

1 if you think you may be unfit to drive you don't test the hypothesis with your family in the car

2 if you think you may be unfit to drive and you decide to test it by going for a drive potentially putting other drivers and pedestrians at risk you deserve to be jailed

3 his wife could have driven

4 the government could have sent a car to take them to London

5 on this 'test drive' they stopped to sightsee not once, but TWICE

Its laughable"

This..

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

"The calibre of the people In this government is nothing short of abysmal! I mean we’ve known incompetent politicians in the past but this lot are really different league."

Agreed. On the Radio 4 Six O'Clock News, today, after Cummings' statement/Q&A session, a BBC political correspondent said the following:

"It's difficult to understate Mr Cummings' importance to the Boris Johnson administration, one Whitehall insider described him as "the only brain in the building ...""

Taken as an assessment of the capabilities of Boris and his Cabinet, that's not an unsurprising comment.

They literally are the dregs of what the Tory Party has to offer and they all owe their current jobs to Cummings' abilities. He even had to engineer the ousting of Sajid Javid because Javid had a spine.

Quite a number of tories want Cummings gone because they think he's harming the government - and he is.

In which case, he should stay - because the more damage he can do to these amoral, self-absorbed, arrogant fuckwits, the better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If l didn't live on the edge of l farm and didn't know that the farmer was clearing his sheds of the remains of the cows 6 month stay then l would have sworn l could smell the bullshit of todays news conference

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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago

Masked and Distant

The academic from Durham University (sourced by the BBC obviously to have a whinge at DC), put it best....."People have more important things to get on with and worry about. Rich elite men have always done what they want, and everyone knows it." Interview then cut short by BBC.

Does anyone seriously think his actions would have any effect on what everyone else does?

Mr and Mrs Muppet were already flouting the guidelines before all this and they will continue to do so after it.

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By *aulaxd500TV/TS
over a year ago

Wigan

As as country, we’ve always had a tendency to believe that we are better than other countries for some reason ( the war, the war, the War, the war etc...) but these are sobering moments.

Couldn't agree more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you can listen to the 'eye test' story and say "yes that sounds reasonable to me.." you are either an idiot or a fucking liar!

Allow me to elaborate..

1 if you think you may be unfit to drive you don't test the hypothesis with your family in the car

2 if you think you may be unfit to drive and you decide to test it by going for a drive potentially putting other drivers and pedestrians at risk you deserve to be jailed

3 his wife could have driven

4 the government could have sent a car to take them to London

5 on this 'test drive' they stopped to sightsee not once, but TWICE

Its laughable"

I only caught snippets of it in work and couldn't believe some of the stuff that was coming out of the blokes mouth. It was like a comedy sketch but it really isn't meant to be funny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hope no one is gullible enough to believe the story he told. I think he just made things worse for himself

Nothing unbelievable about going for a drive because you can’t see properly!

I don’t understand how anyone can accept that excuse?"

And how he even thinks it's an acceptable excuse himself.

"Oh my vision was shit, I couldn't see very well so I thought I'd chuck the Mrs and kid in the car and take a 30 mile spin just to see how much or little I could actually see whilst driving"

I still cannot believe a seemingly intelligent bloke thinks the whole country will just say "yes ok that's fine, no problem"

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

"I hope no one is gullible enough to believe the story he told. I think he just made things worse for himself

Nothing unbelievable about going for a drive because you can’t see properly!

It’s may sound daft but I know several people who would do exactly this!

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By *iratedave2Man
over a year ago

dartford

"I hope no one is gullible enough to believe the story he told. I think he just made things worse for himself

Nothing unbelievable about going for a drive because you can’t see properly!

I don’t understand how anyone can accept that excuse?

And how he even thinks it's an acceptable excuse himself.

"Oh my vision was shit, I couldn't see very well so I thought I'd chuck the Mrs and kid in the car and take a 30 mile spin just to see how much or little I could actually see whilst driving"

I still cannot believe a seemingly intelligent bloke thinks the whole country will just say "yes ok that's fine, no problem"

I think Dominic forgot to mention that he took this trip to check out his eyesight on 12th April, which was his wife's birthday....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry late to this thread I went for a drive to test my eye slight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't go visit my relatives... So I'm off to Durham to visit his relatives.. Our dominic Cummings .. Lovely estate..

Eckk... Not been to spec savers..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Indeed

It seems some on here only hear the bits they want to.

We've only heard Cummings version of events, which he's likely to sanitise for damage limitation purposes.

Do you honestly believe that nonsense about his trip to Barnard Castle? The detail in that fairy tale excuse calls into question the veracity in the rest of what he said!

Yes I have done something very similar when driving trucks, if I had been ill I would go for a drive in my car to be sure I was fit before getting in the truck.

It was only the journalist who made the test run about eyesight, he said his illness had made him weak and effected his eyesight not that her drove the car to test his eyesight.

But that is their job to try to big up non stories"

Are you mental? That’s like having a drink then going for a drive to check if your not too pissed to drive . And your a truck driver ?

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

Cummings also claimed that he had written in the past about the dangers of coronavirus.

Turns out he hadn't. Turns out when he got back from Durham he edited an old blog to mention coronavirus.

He's hilariously arrogant.

(can look on journalist Faisal Islam's twitter to see this)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"@_hetalkingstove

Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare.

If you want to disagree with my initial post please do so by engaging with what I said directly.

OK, I think taking his child to somewhere he might have more support wasn't wrong and as a parent I'd have done the same thing. "

And driving with his kids in the car whilst testing his eyesight is ok though? Cool!

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By *ymph and ManicCouple
over a year ago

North East

Just how many “celebs” escaped from London to lesser inhabited parts of the country ?????namely south west /Devon Cornwall And drove back to London on a few occasions once to pick up his daughters boyfriend up as “I can’t do lockdown without him “ ... And the other time to sort out his staff ... any papers screaming about that ???? Cummings fucked up. But he’s not the only one.

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By *rmrspumpCouple
over a year ago

narnia

"Just how many “celebs” escaped from London to lesser inhabited parts of the country ?????namely south west /Devon Cornwall And drove back to London on a few occasions once to pick up his daughters boyfriend up as “I can’t do lockdown without him “ ... And the other time to sort out his staff ... any papers screaming about that ???? Cummings fucked up. But he’s not the only one. "

It's not the fucking up, it's hypocrisy of HIM fucking up. And it's the damage it has done to the government's message

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not the fucking up, it's hypocrisy of HIM fucking up. And it's the damage it has done to the government's message"

Agreed. Loads of celebrities and non celebrities have broken lockdown rules. Difference is they didn’t help make the rules. Can’t make rules break the rules you’ve made and get caught breaking them

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

Apparently he advised and had written about a threat of a pandemic months ago.

1) The Bible did that zonks ago.

2) Why didn't Boris and the rest take his advice about the threat of a pandemic and prepare properly for it.

3) Was the screw the elderly part of the prep for the pandemic, if said advice was adhered to.

4) Is all this going by scientific advice spiel shifting blame?

5) To test if you are fit to drive you don't do it on public roads endangering the public.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

It’s may sound daft but I know several people who would do exactly this! "

But are they ministerial advisers?

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside

"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok?"

No..you misunderstood.

You drive 30 miles to a secret castle where a group of wizards mix up spells to make you see again.

Then you are cured of the blindness thingy but you are sworn to secrecy and cannot tell anyone or at least not the whole truth.

I tried it, put a blindfold on, drove a bit and crashed, didn't work for me, will just wear glasses in future.

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By *orthern StarsCouple
over a year ago

A town near you perhaps

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you are in any way unsure of your ability to drive, you should not drive!

He speaks of going to Durham for the sake of his child, then tries to justify his trip to Barnard Castle by saying it was to test his ability to drive safely, thereby putting his child in danger.

Which of the 4 reasons to leave the house covered the trip to Barnard Castle?

1) Essential shopping.

Shopping wasn't mentioned at all, however I'm sure any essentials could have been purchased closer to "home".

2) To work if it can't be done from home.

He's tried to connect it to work, but as he was travelling with his wife and child and wasn't actually doing any work, this can't be the reason.

3) Any medical need.

This exception to the stay at home rule is deliberately vague so as to catch all legitimate medical needs. It is meant for attending appointments, getting treatment, delivering medicine when these things cannot be done remotely. It doesn't mean self-assessing your eyesight by driving. That is reckless and might constitute careless and inconsiderate driving if not dangerous driving - the latter carries a custodial sentence.

4) Exercise.

This could have been legitimate except that he and his family could easily have exercised in the fresh air much closer to "home". And in any case, walking a few yards to the river and sitting on a bench for a while doesn't exactly cut it as exercise. At that time - Easter Sunday and his wife's birthday, no less - sitting on a bench in a park or public place was enough to get a ticket.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He and the wife had covid19 When they decided to flee... spreading out a potentially deadly virus

What really fucks most of us up, is that he was one of the high ranks who had to promote this message for all of us idiots to follow. And he’s the first to bend the rules as he wishes ...

All his excuses are such BS excuses, someone who’s basically a millionaire, isn’t able to find aid for his kids in London? Are you kidding me?

I’m beyond outraged at this farse and how some just accepts it! Btw some who ended up meeting people (like the Guy working for SAGE) decided to step down, rightfully so ...

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

My mate put it best last night...

The barnard castle story reminds me of the bloke in a&e trying to explain how a Light bulb just happened to get stuck in his arse ....

He had to hit all the main points In the story because of the Durham police investigation....

The question now is... was it plausible enough that Durham police don’t charge him?

If yes... then he gets away with it!

If no... then Johnson will have to sack him!

So.... test drive..... or jolly for his wife’s birthday

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By *ymph and ManicCouple
over a year ago

North East

He and the wife had covid19 When they decided to flee... spreading out a potentially deadly virus

What really fucks most of us up, is that he was one of the high ranks who had to promote this message for all of us idiots to follow. And he’s the first to bend the rules as he wishes ...

All his excuses are such BS excuses, someone who’s basically a millionaire, isn’t able to find aid for his kids in London? Are you kidding me?

I’m beyond outraged at this farse and how some just accepts it! Btw some who ended up meeting people (like the Guy working for SAGE) decided to step down, rightfully so ...

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...has it come out tha they both had covid ??? Don’t think it did. Symptoms yes. ...,

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"My mate put it best last night...

The barnard castle story reminds me of the bloke in a&e trying to explain how a Light bulb just happened to get stuck in his arse ....

He had to hit all the main points In the story because of the Durham police investigation....

The question now is... was it plausible enough that Durham police don’t charge him?

If yes... then he gets away with it!

If no... then Johnson will have to sack him!

So.... test drive..... or jolly for his wife’s birthday "

The press conference was in all likelihood put back to try and ensure they knew what it was they had to have a story for..

That he's basically said he test drove for a 60 mile round trip as he wasn't sure he was safe to but with his wife and child in the car raises issues that the police will look at..

If in doing so any other trips out come to light then he will have to tell boris another BS story and boris will have to nod and say yes Dom..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My mate put it best last night...

The barnard castle story reminds me of the bloke in a&e trying to explain how a Light bulb just happened to get stuck in his arse ....

He had to hit all the main points In the story because of the Durham police investigation....

The question now is... was it plausible enough that Durham police don’t charge him?

If yes... then he gets away with it!

If no... then Johnson will have to sack him!

So.... test drive..... or jolly for his wife’s birthday "

It depends if the bloke in A+E was uncle Fester

Back to Cummins though....of course he was just filling in the pointers that he knew were in the public domain.

The bit about the wife taking the kid to hospital when he was "unwell" being one of them. I'm surprised they are not digging to find where he was then,as it feels a cover story to me.

Also why did not one of the press ask why his wife couldn't drive. It wad the first post I made at the time of the interview.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport

"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now.

All our kids are up and away now .

But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill.

We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe.

Never mind 250 mile.

Lockdown or no lockdown.

Precisely"

True that most of us would do anything to protect our kids. Which in Cummings case, the way to protect his kid, would be to pick up the phone and make a call. He could have had all the assistance he needed at his home within minutes. He is not a single parent working 50 hours a week on minimum wage. He is a man with more resources than most people in this country can dream of. Instead he deliberately endangered the life of his child by making multiple unnecessary and unjustifiable long journeys, several of which he has openly admitted he made while unsure whether he was well enough to drive. I think that if most ordinary people did this they would be charged with reckless endangerment, and social services would start investigating.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

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By *rmrspumpCouple
over a year ago

narnia

"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now.

All our kids are up and away now .

But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill.

We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe.

Never mind 250 mile.

Lockdown or no lockdown.

Precisely

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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Back to Cummins though....of course he was just filling in the pointers that he knew were in the public domain.

The bit about the wife taking the kid to hospital when he was "unwell" being one of them. I'm surprised they are not digging to find where he was then,as it feels a cover story to me.

According to his wife Writing in the spectator about the lock down , she said he got ill on the 28th and was for ten days laying "doggo in bed with a high fever and spasms that made the muscles lump and twitch in his legs "

I am not sure how he would be well enough to drive on the 2nd April as she said he was so ill in bed , which one is lying? Him or her? I bet she gets thrown under the bus

I suppose it would be easy for the police to check if he was actually at the hospital picking up his wife and kid but it did look like he was making sure him driving off somewhere was being covered by him , I really hope he isn't using a sick kid to cover up a story. Sadly because of the contradictions in the story you wouldn't know which part is true

As she said she became ill the day before him, wouldn't she have still been in isolation? Would the hospital have let her in the Hospital with symptoms?

Now before anyone shouts yes but you would want to go to Hospital with your child, yes, we all would, but the whole point of them going to Durham was to get childcare if the worse happens. If both of you are in isolation because of Covid then this was the time to use the childcare ( the 17 year old niece )they say they drove 260 miles to get

So many holes in this story that it is like a colander.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now.

All our kids are up and away now .

But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill.

We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe.

Never mind 250 mile.

Lockdown or no lockdown.

Precisely

Exactly this.

He did absolutely nothing to determine whether travelling was truly his only option. He just did it.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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PS if she didn't have suspected Covid so wasn't isolating, she should have been isolating for 14 days because she said he had it

Of course the other scenario could be that neither had it so one could go to the Hospital, but then that would blow out of the water of why they went to Durham in the first place

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

Here's a letter to the Guardian today from parents with Covid-19 who did not travel because they assumed it was not allowed. I guess according to some posters, these people are not good parents?

"At the start of lockdown my partner and I fell ill with what we believe was coronavirus. We have 16-month-old triplets and a six-year-old at home. Looking after them during this time was horrendous, scary and upsetting. Apparently, though, we should have just applied “instinct” in this situation and taken them to my partner’s parents (12 miles away) or my mum’s (15 miles away). Stupid us, we thought by staying in and isolating completely that we were keeping others safe – especially our parents, who are all over 70.

At one stage we were really worried if we could continue to care for them and thought about whether we may have to call the NHS or social care. Turns out we shouldn’t have cared or worried about the health and safety of others and sought help as apparently a father would do. The level of hypocrisy and sheer arrogance from this government is phenomenal. For Boris Johnson to try to defend this highlights how it has always been – one rule for them and one for the rest of us."

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over a year ago

Back to Cummins though....of course he was just filling in the pointers that he knew were in the public domain.

The bit about the wife taking the kid to hospital when he was "unwell" being one of them. I'm surprised they are not digging to find where he was then,as it feels a cover story to me.

I am not sure how he would be well enough to drive on the 2nd April as she said he was so ill in bed , which one is lying? Him or her? I bet she gets thrown under the bus

As she said she became ill the day before him, wouldn't she have still been in isolation? Would the hospital have let her in the Hospital with symptoms?

So many holes in this story that it is like a colander. "

A small detour to a well known pharmaceutical company maybe

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

That must mean something but I have no idea what sorry, I might go google

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By *rmrspumpCouple
over a year ago

narnia

At this stage it's his character that's in question. Everyone knows he's either lied or bent the truth to a shocking degree, using his child as justification. And the sole aim is to save his own ass. Do you want a man who thinks and act like this at the top of government? It's Trumpian to the Nth degree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Back to Cummins though....of course he was just filling in the pointers that he knew were in the public domain.

The bit about the wife taking the kid to hospital when he was "unwell" being one of them. I'm surprised they are not digging to find where he was then,as it feels a cover story to me.

I am not sure how he would be well enough to drive on the 2nd April as she said he was so ill in bed , which one is lying? Him or her? I bet she gets thrown under the bus

As she said she became ill the day before him, wouldn't she have still been in isolation? Would the hospital have let her in the Hospital with symptoms?

So many holes in this story that it is like a colander. "

My point on that was he seemed quick to point out why he wasn't at the hospital.

It didn't seem it needed a explanation unless he was trying to cover for being somewhere else.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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Yeah I agreed in my post

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"At this stage it's his character that's in question. Everyone knows he's either lied or bent the truth to a shocking degree, using his child as justification. And the sole aim is to save his own ass. Do you want a man who thinks and act like this at the top of government? It's Trumpian to the Nth degree"

YouGov poll just out. 59% think he should go 27% stay 14% dont know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My mate put it best last night...

The barnard castle story reminds me of the bloke in a&e trying to explain how a Light bulb just happened to get stuck in his arse ....

He had to hit all the main points In the story because of the Durham police investigation....

The question now is... was it plausible enough that Durham police don’t charge him?

If yes... then he gets away with it!

If no... then Johnson will have to sack him!

So.... test drive..... or jolly for his wife’s birthday

The press conference was in all likelihood put back to try and ensure they knew what it was they had to have a story for..

That he's basically said he test drove for a 60 mile round trip as he wasn't sure he was safe to but with his wife and child in the car raises issues that the police will look at..

If in doing so any other trips out come to light then he will have to tell boris another BS story and boris will have to nod and say yes Dom.. "

The press conference was held up so the lawyers could go over his statement again. The whole thing read like a witness statement.

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By *hilMan
over a year ago

HOUGHTON LE SPRING

I see Gove has tried to support Cummings, but just incriminated himself by saying that he has also driven to test his eyesight (i.e broke the law). You do not drive with defective vision,

He also said that Cummings had also driven to Barnard Castle for exercise, correct me if I'm wrong but I thought at that time this was also against the lockdown rules.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

At this point I would like to congratulate the Dutch priminster...total class act

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By *hilMan
over a year ago

HOUGHTON LE SPRING

Back to Cummins though....of course he was just filling in the pointers that he knew were in the public domain.

The bit about the wife taking the kid to hospital when he was "unwell" being one of them. I'm surprised they are not digging to find where he was then,as it feels a cover story to me.

if his wife could drive the child to hospital when he was ill, why did she not drive them back to London if his eyesight was dodgy. There would have been no need to drive a beauty spot at Barnard Castle on his wife's birthday to "test his eye sight".

Absolute Total cock and bull story, not a word of truth in it.

I am not sure how he would be well enough to drive on the 2nd April as she said he was so ill in bed , which one is lying? Him or her? I bet she gets thrown under the bus

As she said she became ill the day before him, wouldn't she have still been in isolation? Would the hospital have let her in the Hospital with symptoms?

So many holes in this story that it is like a colander.

My point on that was he seemed quick to point out why he wasn't at the hospital.

It didn't seem it needed a explanation unless he was trying to cover for being somewhere else."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now.

All our kids are up and away now .

But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill.

We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe.

Never mind 250 mile.

Lockdown or no lockdown.

Precisely

Exactly, that man has plenty of resources, he could have found ways to find pay for help in London or get the nieces to London instead... but no, he drove Ill to isolate 300 miles away from London

They really think everyone buys the BS coming out his mouth and that we are stupid

Urgh

I feel sorry for all those who lost someone and couldn’t be there for them

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By *ancs_tgirl_38TV/TS
over a year ago

Blackpool

4 facts:

1,they failed to get him to resign, 2,they failed to get Boris to fire him, 3, they didn't get their apology, 4,Ed Davey is irrelevant.

3 nill. Nice try. Move on. The story is dead.

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By *rmrspumpCouple
over a year ago

narnia

"4 facts:

1,they failed to get him to resign, 2,they failed to get Boris to fire him, 3, they didn't get their apology, 4,Ed Davey is irrelevant.

3 nill. Nice try. Move on. The story is dead.

Front pages, TV and radio news full of it today, junior minister resignation, Bojo personal rating drops 20 points.. This is very far from dead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"4 facts:

1,they failed to get him to resign, 2,they failed to get Boris to fire him, 3, they didn't get their apology, 4,Ed Davey is irrelevant.

3 nill. Nice try. Move on. The story is dead.

Trouble is, it isn't. The political damage from this will continue for Boris until Cummings erm.. goes! People are really angry about this.

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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

It’s not the first time a well connected rich person has bent the rules and it won’t be the last. I’m not really sure why people are so shocked by it. They most probably are going to weather it out I’d be surprised if he resigns.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"My mate put it best last night...

The barnard castle story reminds me of the bloke in a&e trying to explain how a Light bulb just happened to get stuck in his arse ....

He had to hit all the main points In the story because of the Durham police investigation....

The question now is... was it plausible enough that Durham police don’t charge him?

If yes... then he gets away with it!

If no... then Johnson will have to sack him!

So.... test drive..... or jolly for his wife’s birthday

The press conference was in all likelihood put back to try and ensure they knew what it was they had to have a story for..

That he's basically said he test drove for a 60 mile round trip as he wasn't sure he was safe to but with his wife and child in the car raises issues that the police will look at..

If in doing so any other trips out come to light then he will have to tell boris another BS story and boris will have to nod and say yes Dom..

The press conference was held up so the lawyers could go over his statement again. The whole thing read like a witness statement."

He made up the bit about the blog last year on pandemics, R4 looked at it and it was in April this year..

Tbh I missed that part so don't even know why it was claimed by him but when something is so easily found to be wrong it begs further questions..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"4 facts:

1,they failed to get him to resign, 2,they failed to get Boris to fire him, 3, they didn't get their apology, 4,Ed Davey is irrelevant.

3 nill. Nice try. Move on. The story is dead.

Trouble is, it isn't. The political damage from this will continue for Boris until Cummings erm.. goes! People are really angry about this."

And rightfully so! This is not on and won’t be the end just because some people accept that stupid explanation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It’s not the first time a well connected rich person has bent the rules and it won’t be the last. I’m not really sure why people are so shocked by it. They most probably are going to weather it out I’d be surprised if he resigns."

By having this sort of attitude is a reason why they keep getting away with it.. because of people who don’t care and say well it is what it is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"4 facts:

1,they failed to get him to resign, 2,they failed to get Boris to fire him, 3, they didn't get their apology, 4,Ed Davey is irrelevant.

3 nill. Nice try. Move on. The story is dead.

The story is far from dead, much as you might want it to be it's going to run and run, a government minister has resigned over it today.

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By *oss25Man
over a year ago

Flitwick and Fakenham

"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now.

All our kids are up and away now .

But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill.

We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe.

Never mind 250 mile.

Lockdown or no lockdown."

Absolutely this.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He made up the bit about the blog last year on pandemics, R4 looked at it and it was in April this year..

Tbh I missed that part so don't even know why it was claimed by him but when something is so easily found to be wrong it begs further questions.. "

Because he can't help himself, he just has to show everyone how clever he is.

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By *rmrspumpCouple
over a year ago

narnia

"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now.

All our kids are up and away now .

But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill.

We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe.

Never mind 250 mile.

Lockdown or no lockdown.

Absolutely this......."

Sooo.. You'd drive to the ends of the earth for your child.. Would you drive 60 miles with your child to see if you were blind or not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"4 facts:

1,they failed to get him to resign, 2,they failed to get Boris to fire him, 3, they didn't get their apology, 4,Ed Davey is irrelevant.

3 nill. Nice try. Move on. The story is dead.

Trouble is, it isn't. The political damage from this will continue for Boris until Cummings erm.. goes! People are really angry about this.

And rightfully so! This is not on and won’t be the end just because some people accept that stupid explanation

Only the brainwashed and members of the Boris & Dom cult believe the explanation. I hope he stays and continues to weaken Boris and his government

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now.

All our kids are up and away now .

But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill.

We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe.

Never mind 250 mile.

Lockdown or no lockdown.

Absolutely this.......

Sooo.. You'd drive to the ends of the earth for your child.. Would you drive 60 miles with your child to see if you were blind or not? "

So now he was blind?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now.

All our kids are up and away now .

But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill.

We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe.

Never mind 250 mile.

Lockdown or no lockdown.

Absolutely this.......

Sooo.. You'd drive to the ends of the earth for your child.. Would you drive 60 miles with your child to see if you were blind or not?

So now he was blind?

Do you believe his eye test drive story??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now.

All our kids are up and away now .

But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill.

We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe.

Never mind 250 mile.

Lockdown or no lockdown.

Absolutely this.......

Sooo.. You'd drive to the ends of the earth for your child.. Would you drive 60 miles with your child to see if you were blind or not?

So now he was blind?

Eyesight impaired...but the best part is he think all the british electorate are thick.

Only a few are it seems by the YouGov polls

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