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By *ikeC81 OP   Man
over a year ago

harrow

I am lucky to have a job that is not directly been impacted by covid-19

I have been working from home putting more hours in then I get paid to. Work 2 weeks ago announced that the the additional optional day that we have holiday will not be given due to covid-19 this year

However for me that is an issue - I joined my current company on a tupe arrangement which means I had 26 days. The current jobs company appeared to think that 25 plus one extra day = 26 days

I have raised this as now I feel they are in breach of my tupe arrangement. I had even sent a copy of my contract stating 26 days. I have raised it as an issue and now having to resort to my union because of this

To make it clear there is no more than 20 people of less that can have this extra day issue. I can’t believe companies are being such wankers over this especially as a lot of us out more than contractual hours in

I have never thought I would have to do this during this time but if a company is in breach of tupe arrangements then I will happily go to my union to back me!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Employer raise a formal grievance

Acas

ET1 form

Employment tribunal

That’s what I’d be doing.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

How optional is it? In the T&Cs

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge


"I am lucky to have a job that is not directly been impacted by covid-19

I have been working from home putting more hours in then I get paid to. Work 2 weeks ago announced that the the additional optional day that we have holiday will not be given due to covid-19 this year

However for me that is an issue - I joined my current company on a tupe arrangement which means I had 26 days. The current jobs company appeared to think that 25 plus one extra day = 26 days

I have raised this as now I feel they are in breach of my tupe arrangement. I had even sent a copy of my contract stating 26 days. I have raised it as an issue and now having to resort to my union because of this

To make it clear there is no more than 20 people of less that can have this extra day issue. I can’t believe companies are being such wankers over this especially as a lot of us out more than contractual hours in

I have never thought I would have to do this during this time but if a company is in breach of tupe arrangements then I will happily go to my union to back me!!!!!

"

If you are confident this this will not come back and bite you in the arse when half the country are unemployed and you're looking for a new job then carry on and piss off your new employer.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"I am lucky to have a job that is not directly been impacted by covid-19

I have been working from home putting more hours in then I get paid to. Work 2 weeks ago announced that the the additional optional day that we have holiday will not be given due to covid-19 this year

However for me that is an issue - I joined my current company on a tupe arrangement which means I had 26 days. The current jobs company appeared to think that 25 plus one extra day = 26 days

I have raised this as now I feel they are in breach of my tupe arrangement. I had even sent a copy of my contract stating 26 days. I have raised it as an issue and now having to resort to my union because of this

To make it clear there is no more than 20 people of less that can have this extra day issue. I can’t believe companies are being such wankers over this especially as a lot of us out more than contractual hours in

I have never thought I would have to do this during this time but if a company is in breach of tupe arrangements then I will happily go to my union to back me!!!!!

If you are confident this this will not come back and bite you in the arse when half the country are unemployed and you're looking for a new job then carry on and piss off your new employer. "

That’s a very good point. OP I’m sure you have posted work issues before. Maybe hold fire and see what’s the deal with it and why It’s happened.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Gosh people really do that ? Can’t you just tell your boss they are wrong and you’re taking an extra day off ? HR and unions should be busy doing much more important stuff

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unless you've signed a new contract of employment with the new employer for some reason eg new role/promotion, then your previous conditions of employment should be recognised. There are some specific exceptions eg pensions and options that aren't in the contracts. See what is said and take to the union if needs be. That's why they are there. It could well be whomever has said this isn't as read up on TUPE as they should be. Good luck.

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By *ikeC81 OP   Man
over a year ago

harrow

Oh yes I know what tupe is and clearly my company is taking the piss, I have been at my current company 3 years and 9.5 at my old role so just under 13 years.

My original contract of employment states I am entitled to 26 days holiday. If they are saying that this extra day is optional well then can I have the 3 days guaranteed holiday that I should off had last 3 years when I moved under tupe

As you can see I tried to do this through the hr process and now as I feel like the company is taking the piss, I am going to call my union on Wednesday when I am off.

What also I have found is that I went to my uncles funeral and could have taken that as berevment vacation rather than holiday but no one told me about that.

I wouldn’t mind but I actually send a copy of my contract to my hr team and said look it’s says 26 days and got told sorry this is a company wide adjustment.

I know some people are probably thinking why am I doing this well for me I have worked a number off hours overtime, answer emails on holiday for the sake of clients and all I want is something back what I am entitled to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh yes I know what tupe is and clearly my company is taking the piss, I have been at my current company 3 years and 9.5 at my old role so just under 13 years.

My original contract of employment states I am entitled to 26 days holiday. If they are saying that this extra day is optional well then can I have the 3 days guaranteed holiday that I should off had last 3 years when I moved under tupe

As you can see I tried to do this through the hr process and now as I feel like the company is taking the piss, I am going to call my union on Wednesday when I am off.

What also I have found is that I went to my uncles funeral and could have taken that as berevment vacation rather than holiday but no one told me about that.

I wouldn’t mind but I actually send a copy of my contract to my hr team and said look it’s says 26 days and got told sorry this is a company wide adjustment.

I know some people are probably thinking why am I doing this well for me I have worked a number off hours overtime, answer emails on holiday for the sake of clients and all I want is something back what I am entitled to

"

I thought bereavement leave was just for close family.

Mother,father, siblings,wife and kids.

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By *uadzillaMan
over a year ago

Warwickshire


"I am lucky to have a job that is not directly been impacted by covid-19

I have been working from home putting more hours in then I get paid to. Work 2 weeks ago announced that the the additional optional day that we have holiday will not be given due to covid-19 this year

However for me that is an issue - I joined my current company on a tupe arrangement which means I had 26 days. The current jobs company appeared to think that 25 plus one extra day = 26 days

I have raised this as now I feel they are in breach of my tupe arrangement. I had even sent a copy of my contract stating 26 days. I have raised it as an issue and now having to resort to my union because of this

To make it clear there is no more than 20 people of less that can have this extra day issue. I can’t believe companies are being such wankers over this especially as a lot of us out more than contractual hours in

I have never thought I would have to do this during this time but if a company is in breach of tupe arrangements then I will happily go to my union to back me!!!!!

If you are confident this this will not come back and bite you in the arse when half the country are unemployed and you're looking for a new job then carry on and piss off your new employer. "

The law is the law. Tupe guarantees your last working agreement, covid or not they are simply putting pressure on you and when others say things like unemployed etc that's exactly what the big companies and the government want you to be like scared fearful of what might happen so you we all just continue to get fucked over and over.

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

I think you have to be very careful given the current climate we are in atm.

I was also moved under a TUPE arrangement along with others, the new company seem to do what they like. We know that a consultation process should go ahead, as do they, before any changes are made but it hasn't happened yet after a year. No one would question them atm ~ we are scared that we'll lose our jobs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh yes I know what tupe is and clearly my company is taking the piss, I have been at my current company 3 years and 9.5 at my old role so just under 13 years.

My original contract of employment states I am entitled to 26 days holiday. If they are saying that this extra day is optional well then can I have the 3 days guaranteed holiday that I should off had last 3 years when I moved under tupe

As you can see I tried to do this through the hr process and now as I feel like the company is taking the piss, I am going to call my union on Wednesday when I am off.

What also I have found is that I went to my uncles funeral and could have taken that as berevment vacation rather than holiday but no one told me about that.

I wouldn’t mind but I actually send a copy of my contract to my hr team and said look it’s says 26 days and got told sorry this is a company wide adjustment.

I know some people are probably thinking why am I doing this well for me I have worked a number off hours overtime, answer emails on holiday for the sake of clients and all I want is something back what I am entitled to

"

TUPE on covers your old conditions for 24 months.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh yes I know what tupe is and clearly my company is taking the piss, I have been at my current company 3 years and 9.5 at my old role so just under 13 years.

My original contract of employment states I am entitled to 26 days holiday. If they are saying that this extra day is optional well then can I have the 3 days guaranteed holiday that I should off had last 3 years when I moved under tupe

As you can see I tried to do this through the hr process and now as I feel like the company is taking the piss, I am going to call my union on Wednesday when I am off.

What also I have found is that I went to my uncles funeral and could have taken that as berevment vacation rather than holiday but no one told me about that.

I wouldn’t mind but I actually send a copy of my contract to my hr team and said look it’s says 26 days and got told sorry this is a company wide adjustment.

I know some people are probably thinking why am I doing this well for me I have worked a number off hours overtime, answer emails on holiday for the sake of clients and all I want is something back what I am entitled to

I thought bereavement leave was just for close family.

Mother,father, siblings,wife and kids.

"

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By *ikeC81 OP   Man
over a year ago

harrow


"Oh yes I know what tupe is and clearly my company is taking the piss, I have been at my current company 3 years and 9.5 at my old role so just under 13 years.

My original contract of employment states I am entitled to 26 days holiday. If they are saying that this extra day is optional well then can I have the 3 days guaranteed holiday that I should off had last 3 years when I moved under tupe

As you can see I tried to do this through the hr process and now as I feel like the company is taking the piss, I am going to call my union on Wednesday when I am off.

What also I have found is that I went to my uncles funeral and could have taken that as berevment vacation rather than holiday but no one told me about that.

I wouldn’t mind but I actually send a copy of my contract to my hr team and said look it’s says 26 days and got told sorry this is a company wide adjustment.

I know some people are probably thinking why am I doing this well for me I have worked a number off hours overtime, answer emails on holiday for the sake of clients and all I want is something back what I am entitled to

I thought bereavement leave was just for close family.

Mother,father, siblings,wife and kids.

"

Someone i know got it for a grandparent

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh yes I know what tupe is and clearly my company is taking the piss, I have been at my current company 3 years and 9.5 at my old role so just under 13 years.

My original contract of employment states I am entitled to 26 days holiday. If they are saying that this extra day is optional well then can I have the 3 days guaranteed holiday that I should off had last 3 years when I moved under tupe

As you can see I tried to do this through the hr process and now as I feel like the company is taking the piss, I am going to call my union on Wednesday when I am off.

What also I have found is that I went to my uncles funeral and could have taken that as berevment vacation rather than holiday but no one told me about that.

I wouldn’t mind but I actually send a copy of my contract to my hr team and said look it’s says 26 days and got told sorry this is a company wide adjustment.

I know some people are probably thinking why am I doing this well for me I have worked a number off hours overtime, answer emails on holiday for the sake of clients and all I want is something back what I am entitled to

I thought bereavement leave was just for close family.

Mother,father, siblings,wife and kids.

Someone i know got it for a grandparent"

I have never heard of that before

Maybe he works for a generous company.

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere


"Oh yes I know what tupe is and clearly my company is taking the piss, I have been at my current company 3 years and 9.5 at my old role so just under 13 years.

My original contract of employment states I am entitled to 26 days holiday. If they are saying that this extra day is optional well then can I have the 3 days guaranteed holiday that I should off had last 3 years when I moved under tupe

As you can see I tried to do this through the hr process and now as I feel like the company is taking the piss, I am going to call my union on Wednesday when I am off.

What also I have found is that I went to my uncles funeral and could have taken that as berevment vacation rather than holiday but no one told me about that.

I wouldn’t mind but I actually send a copy of my contract to my hr team and said look it’s says 26 days and got told sorry this is a company wide adjustment.

I know some people are probably thinking why am I doing this well for me I have worked a number off hours overtime, answer emails on holiday for the sake of clients and all I want is something back what I am entitled to

TUPE on covers your old conditions for 24 months. "

24 months? What about if the new company put you through consultation to change your contract to theirs?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh yes I know what tupe is and clearly my company is taking the piss, I have been at my current company 3 years and 9.5 at my old role so just under 13 years.

My original contract of employment states I am entitled to 26 days holiday. If they are saying that this extra day is optional well then can I have the 3 days guaranteed holiday that I should off had last 3 years when I moved under tupe

As you can see I tried to do this through the hr process and now as I feel like the company is taking the piss, I am going to call my union on Wednesday when I am off.

What also I have found is that I went to my uncles funeral and could have taken that as berevment vacation rather than holiday but no one told me about that.

I wouldn’t mind but I actually send a copy of my contract to my hr team and said look it’s says 26 days and got told sorry this is a company wide adjustment.

I know some people are probably thinking why am I doing this well for me I have worked a number off hours overtime, answer emails on holiday for the sake of clients and all I want is something back what I am entitled to

I thought bereavement leave was just for close family.

Mother,father, siblings,wife and kids.

Someone i know got it for a grandparent

I have never heard of that before

Maybe he works for a generous company."

Neither have I. May be down to idividually company policy perhaps?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh yes I know what tupe is and clearly my company is taking the piss, I have been at my current company 3 years and 9.5 at my old role so just under 13 years.

My original contract of employment states I am entitled to 26 days holiday. If they are saying that this extra day is optional well then can I have the 3 days guaranteed holiday that I should off had last 3 years when I moved under tupe

As you can see I tried to do this through the hr process and now as I feel like the company is taking the piss, I am going to call my union on Wednesday when I am off.

What also I have found is that I went to my uncles funeral and could have taken that as berevment vacation rather than holiday but no one told me about that.

I wouldn’t mind but I actually send a copy of my contract to my hr team and said look it’s says 26 days and got told sorry this is a company wide adjustment.

I know some people are probably thinking why am I doing this well for me I have worked a number off hours overtime, answer emails on holiday for the sake of clients and all I want is something back what I am entitled to

TUPE on covers your old conditions for 24 months.

24 months? What about if the new company put you through consultation to change your contract to theirs?"

I've come across contracts being harmonised but I've never heard of TUPE'd contracts having a time limit. That's definitely a good question for Acas or the Union.

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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria


"Oh yes I know what tupe is and clearly my company is taking the piss, I have been at my current company 3 years and 9.5 at my old role so just under 13 years.

My original contract of employment states I am entitled to 26 days holiday. If they are saying that this extra day is optional well then can I have the 3 days guaranteed holiday that I should off had last 3 years when I moved under tupe

As you can see I tried to do this through the hr process and now as I feel like the company is taking the piss, I am going to call my union on Wednesday when I am off.

What also I have found is that I went to my uncles funeral and could have taken that as berevment vacation rather than holiday but no one told me about that.

I wouldn’t mind but I actually send a copy of my contract to my hr team and said look it’s says 26 days and got told sorry this is a company wide adjustment.

I know some people are probably thinking why am I doing this well for me I have worked a number off hours overtime, answer emails on holiday for the sake of clients and all I want is something back what I am entitled to

I thought bereavement leave was just for close family.

Mother,father, siblings,wife and kids.

Someone i know got it for a grandparent

I have never heard of that before

Maybe he works for a generous company.

Neither have I. May be down to idividually company policy perhaps?"

Definitely down to company policy and there are some generous company’s out there but seems they are very few and far between now. A company I worked for gave paid leave for any funeral you attended, they even paid me when I took a week off when my doggie passed away, can’t see many doing that to be fair, it’s all about the money to be made now.

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By *yn drwgMan
over a year ago

Camarthen

Just be grateful that you have a job and an income to provide for your family.

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By *uliaChrisCouple
over a year ago

westerham

I’d be the first to say stick to your guns, far too many employees are far too nice and employers often take the mick. I’ve heard good things about ACAS but don’t know how well they are functioning during the crisis.

Having said that, I also say pick your battles, ie is this a hill you want to die on? It’s one day? Would it not be less stressful to take a sickie instead?

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