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By *riar Belisse OP   Woman
over a year ago

Delightful Bliss

Eyes will be on italy as restaurants open tomorrow, as he said we cannot afford to wait for a vaccine anymore

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Eyes will be on italy as restaurants open tomorrow, as he said we cannot afford to wait for a vaccine anymore"

Indeed

One wonders what Italy will do if the numbers start shooting up again

Not to mention what we will do

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By *arkb73Man
over a year ago

Cheshire/Staffs

Spain death toll below 100 today - 15 days after easing lockdown.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Eyes will be on italy as restaurants open tomorrow, as he said we cannot afford to wait for a vaccine anymore

Indeed

One wonders what Italy will do if the numbers start shooting up again

Not to mention what we will do"

It's a risk they have to take.

I watched his statement and he is basically saying they are skint and can't carry on like this with the lockdown.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Spain death toll below 100 today - 15 days after easing lockdown. "

So, are you of the opinion that the virus will peter out now?

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

I've had emails from the guest houses and hotels I normally stay in when I go to Italy informing me that they are taking bookings from mid june x

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By *arkb73Man
over a year ago

Cheshire/Staffs


"Eyes will be on italy as restaurants open tomorrow, as he said we cannot afford to wait for a vaccine anymore

Indeed

One wonders what Italy will do if the numbers start shooting up again

Not to mention what we will do

It's a risk they have to take.

I watched his statement and he is basically saying they are skint and can't carry on like this with the lockdown. "

40, 50, 60 per cent levels of crippling poverty or 2 per cent death rate? That’s the equation.

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By *arkb73Man
over a year ago

Cheshire/Staffs


"Spain death toll below 100 today - 15 days after easing lockdown.

So, are you of the opinion that the virus will peter out now?"

I’m saying nothing - just pointing to two facts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Eyes will be on italy as restaurants open tomorrow, as he said we cannot afford to wait for a vaccine anymore

Indeed

One wonders what Italy will do if the numbers start shooting up again

Not to mention what we will do

It's a risk they have to take.

I watched his statement and he is basically saying they are skint and can't carry on like this with the lockdown.

40, 50, 60 per cent levels of crippling poverty or 2 per cent death rate? That’s the equation. "

Fully agree with you on this.

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By *imes_berksMan
over a year ago

Bracknell


"Spain death toll below 100 today - 15 days after easing lockdown.

So, are you of the opinion that the virus will peter out now?

I’m saying nothing - just pointing to two facts. "

You fo realise their lockdown is still stricter than ours

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"Spain death toll below 100 today - 15 days after easing lockdown.

So, are you of the opinion that the virus will peter out now?

I’m saying nothing - just pointing to two facts.

You fo realise their lockdown is still stricter than ours"

Really ? How ?

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By *imes_berksMan
over a year ago

Bracknell


"Spain death toll below 100 today - 15 days after easing lockdown.

So, are you of the opinion that the virus will peter out now?

I’m saying nothing - just pointing to two facts.

You fo realise their lockdown is still stricter than ours

Really ? How ?"

Adults only allowed out between 6 and 10 am and between 8 and 11 pm. Only allowed to be out within 1 km of their property.

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By *hamesGentMan
over a year ago

Oxfordshire

Alas, this fact is pretty meaningless. As it can take around three weeks to die after being diagnosed with the virus.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"Spain death toll below 100 today - 15 days after easing lockdown.

So, are you of the opinion that the virus will peter out now?

I’m saying nothing - just pointing to two facts.

You fo realise their lockdown is still stricter than ours

Really ? How ?

Adults only allowed out between 6 and 10 am and between 8 and 11 pm. Only allowed to be out within 1 km of their property."

Really ?

This must be wrong then

Mr Conte outlined the country’s plan for “Phase Two” of lifting its lockdown on Sunday (26 Apr).

The new rules will see the following restrictions lifted:

- People will be allowed to move around their own regions - but not between different regions

- Funerals will resume, but with a maximum of 15 people attending, and ideally will be carried out outdoors

- Individual athletes can resume training, and people will be allowed to do sports in wider areas, not just in the vicinity of their homes

- Sports teams will be able to hold group training from 18 May

- Bars and restaurants will reopen for takeaway service,rather than just delivery, from 4 May, but food must be consumed at home or in an office

- Hairdressers, beauty salons, bars and restaurants are expected to reopen for dine-in service from 1 June

- More retail shops not already opened under the earliest easing measures will reopen on 18 May along with museums and libraries

Will social distancing measures still be in place?

Mr Conte said that social distancing measures will need to continue for months to come, and urged members of the public to stay at least a metre apart from each other.

He said: “If we do not respect the precautions the curve will go up, the deaths will increase, and we will have irreversible damage to our economy.

"If you love Italy, keep your distance."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Spain death toll below 100 today - 15 days after easing lockdown.

So, are you of the opinion that the virus will peter out now?

I’m saying nothing - just pointing to two facts.

You fo realise their lockdown is still stricter than ours

Really ? How ?

Adults only allowed out between 6 and 10 am and between 8 and 11 pm. Only allowed to be out within 1 km of their property."

im not sure if this is outdated , i know households in tenerife have been allowed to mix this week, someone i know had a playdate with her daughters friend was the first time their child had seen any other kids since the beginning of lockdown

some bars also reopened with 50% occupancy of their terrace allowed and im sure that was in the middle of the day

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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria


"Spain death toll below 100 today - 15 days after easing lockdown.

So, are you of the opinion that the virus will peter out now?

I’m saying nothing - just pointing to two facts.

You fo realise their lockdown is still stricter than ours

Really ? How ?

Adults only allowed out between 6 and 10 am and between 8 and 11 pm. Only allowed to be out within 1 km of their property."

Maybe depends on the region in Spain, I know you can’t even cross into Murcia from Almeria even if the supermarket is nearer in crossing the border, heavy fine if you are caught. You can only cycle in your own town and walking is just 1km if your house. They have opened some bars in our area of Spain but only to 50% of capacity and outside terrace only. They only allow 2 people to a car and that’s the same household, up until last week one had to sit in the back, both couldn’t sit in the front

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Spain death toll below 100 today - 15 days after easing lockdown.

So, are you of the opinion that the virus will peter out now?

I’m saying nothing - just pointing to two facts. "

Fab expert he has a PhD

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"Spain death toll below 100 today - 15 days after easing lockdown.

So, are you of the opinion that the virus will peter out now?

I’m saying nothing - just pointing to two facts.

Fab expert he has a PhD "

Somebody changed it from Italy to Spain ffs I didn't notice

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Spain death toll below 100 today - 15 days after easing lockdown.

So, are you of the opinion that the virus will peter out now?

I’m saying nothing - just pointing to two facts.

Fab expert he has a PhD

Somebody changed it from Italy to Spain ffs I didn't notice "

It's Sunday your allowed a lazy day.

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By *imes_berksMan
over a year ago

Bracknell


"Spain death toll below 100 today - 15 days after easing lockdown.

So, are you of the opinion that the virus will peter out now?

I’m saying nothing - just pointing to two facts.

You fo realise their lockdown is still stricter than ours

Really ? How ?

Adults only allowed out between 6 and 10 am and between 8 and 11 pm. Only allowed to be out within 1 km of their property.

Really ?

This must be wrong then

Mr Conte outlined the country’s plan for “Phase Two” of lifting its lockdown on Sunday (26 Apr).

The new rules will see the following restrictions lifted:

- People will be allowed to move around their own regions - but not between different regions

- Funerals will resume, but with a maximum of 15 people attending, and ideally will be carried out outdoors

- Individual athletes can resume training, and people will be allowed to do sports in wider areas, not just in the vicinity of their homes

- Sports teams will be able to hold group training from 18 May

- Bars and restaurants will reopen for takeaway service,rather than just delivery, from 4 May, but food must be consumed at home or in an office

- Hairdressers, beauty salons, bars and restaurants are expected to reopen for dine-in service from 1 June

- More retail shops not already opened under the earliest easing measures will reopen on 18 May along with museums and libraries

Will social distancing measures still be in place?

Mr Conte said that social distancing measures will need to continue for months to come, and urged members of the public to stay at least a metre apart from each other.

He said: “If we do not respect the precautions the curve will go up, the deaths will increase, and we will have irreversible damage to our economy.

"If you love Italy, keep your distance.""

I was saying about Spain not Italy as the quote above was about Spain. I am behind with Spain as they did move to Phase 1 on Monday with the restrictions mentioned by the above people

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"I've had emails from the guest houses and hotels I normally stay in when I go to Italy informing me that they are taking bookings from mid june x"

We can’t wait to go, looking at flights and AirBnB already!

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Eyes will be on italy as restaurants open tomorrow, as he said we cannot afford to wait for a vaccine anymore"
Well my plans to visit the Italian lakes could be postponed for years.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

Panigale factory tour is still on for September so fingers crossed.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

I’m in no rush to spend my money overseas.

As business starts to open in the U.K. I will be spending cash here first.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Booked Turkey now for 2021

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"I've had emails from the guest houses and hotels I normally stay in when I go to Italy informing me that they are taking bookings from mid june x

We can’t wait to go, looking at flights and AirBnB already! "

I have never used AirBnB but yes I'm looking at flights already too. Thinking amalfi coast for a few days x

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By *arkb73Man
over a year ago

Cheshire/Staffs


"Spain death toll below 100 today - 15 days after easing lockdown.

So, are you of the opinion that the virus will peter out now?

I’m saying nothing - just pointing to two facts.

Fab expert he has a PhD "

Yeah I should keep my mouth shut and leave it to the graduates from the university of Fab

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By *rad_ell12Man
over a year ago

Brighouse


"Spain death toll below 100 today - 15 days after easing lockdown.

So, are you of the opinion that the virus will peter out now?

I’m saying nothing - just pointing to two facts.

Fab expert he has a PhD

Yeah I should keep my mouth shut and leave it to the graduates from the university of Fab "

I've just been told to watch the news, instead of arguing any points about lockdown having a worse impact than the virus and I'm selfish for stating that I'd rather risk going out and live my life, I reckon we need too just go into hiding for having an opinion that's different to other people

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By *arkb73Man
over a year ago

Cheshire/Staffs


"Spain death toll below 100 today - 15 days after easing lockdown.

So, are you of the opinion that the virus will peter out now?

I’m saying nothing - just pointing to two facts.

Fab expert he has a PhD

Yeah I should keep my mouth shut and leave it to the graduates from the university of Fab

I've just been told to watch the news, instead of arguing any points about lockdown having a worse impact than the virus and I'm selfish for stating that I'd rather risk going out and live my life, I reckon we need too just go into hiding for having an opinion that's different to other people"

Very few people appear to be thinking during all this and seem to hate it when others argue against them. As you say, best to leave them to it.

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By *rad_ell12Man
over a year ago

Brighouse


"Spain death toll below 100 today - 15 days after easing lockdown.

So, are you of the opinion that the virus will peter out now?

I’m saying nothing - just pointing to two facts.

Fab expert he has a PhD

Yeah I should keep my mouth shut and leave it to the graduates from the university of Fab

I've just been told to watch the news, instead of arguing any points about lockdown having a worse impact than the virus and I'm selfish for stating that I'd rather risk going out and live my life, I reckon we need too just go into hiding for having an opinion that's different to other people

Very few people appear to be thinking during all this and seem to hate it when others argue against them. As you say, best to leave them to it. "

My sentiments exactly, finding a lot of people are selective about how they car about human life, but think it's time for me to stop, shock horror, stating my opinion, because there are way too many people ready to jump on it and dictate to everyone how they should think, although I do find it amusing being called a tin foil hat wearer by some

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Spain death toll below 100 today - 15 days after easing lockdown.

So, are you of the opinion that the virus will peter out now?

I’m saying nothing - just pointing to two facts.

Fab expert he has a PhD

Yeah I should keep my mouth shut and leave it to the graduates from the university of Fab

I've just been told to watch the news, instead of arguing any points about lockdown having a worse impact than the virus and I'm selfish for stating that I'd rather risk going out and live my life, I reckon we need too just go into hiding for having an opinion that's different to other people

Very few people appear to be thinking during all this and seem to hate it when others argue against them. As you say, best to leave them to it. "

Welcome to the fab forums where individual opinions don't matter.

You must have picked up on this by now.

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By *ayc_BigballsMan
over a year ago

Derby


"Eyes will be on italy as restaurants open tomorrow, as he said we cannot afford to wait for a vaccine anymore

Indeed

One wonders what Italy will do if the numbers start shooting up again

Not to mention what we will do

It's a risk they have to take.

I watched his statement and he is basically saying they are skint and can't carry on like this with the lockdown.

40, 50, 60 per cent levels of crippling poverty or 2 per cent death rate? That’s the equation. "

where is that taken from?

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By *nmgCouple
over a year ago

Liverpool

6 of one, half a dozen of the other actually.

This can be a fatal illness and it is imperative that we do all we can to.combat it and get our lives back.

However there are a lot of people (on here and in all aspects of our lives) who have turned to paranoid scaremongering.

We need to keep a realistic lid on this. We WONT be social distancing for the rest of our lives, we WONT see pubs and clubs closed for ever.

Of the black death was successfully controlled with the backwards science that was available then, and Spanish Flu was.successfully controlled with much more basic knowledge & techniques than we have now then we WILL succeed against Covid 19.

This is not the time for panic and doom & gloom!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Spain death toll below 100 today - 15 days after easing lockdown.

So, are you of the opinion that the virus will peter out now?

I’m saying nothing - just pointing to two facts.

You fo realise their lockdown is still stricter than ours

Really ? How ?

Adults only allowed out between 6 and 10 am and between 8 and 11 pm. Only allowed to be out within 1 km of their property.

Maybe depends on the region in Spain, I know you can’t even cross into Murcia from Almeria even if the supermarket is nearer in crossing the border, heavy fine if you are caught. You can only cycle in your own town and walking is just 1km if your house. They have opened some bars in our area of Spain but only to 50% of capacity and outside terrace only. They only allow 2 people to a car and that’s the same household, up until last week one had to sit in the back, both couldn’t sit in the front "

Friend out in Soain got finded last week €100.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"6 of one, half a dozen of the other actually.

This can be a fatal illness and it is imperative that we do all we can to.combat it and get our lives back.

However there are a lot of people (on here and in all aspects of our lives) who have turned to paranoid scaremongering.

We need to keep a realistic lid on this. We WONT be social distancing for the rest of our lives, we WONT see pubs and clubs closed for ever.

Of the black death was successfully controlled with the backwards science that was available then, and Spanish Flu was.successfully controlled with much more basic knowledge & techniques than we have now then we WILL succeed against Covid 19.

This is not the time for panic and doom & gloom! "

The black death killed 60% of Europes population

I wouldnt say that was successfully controlling it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've had emails from the guest houses and hotels I normally stay in when I go to Italy informing me that they are taking bookings from mid june x"

so? are you going this year?

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"Spain death toll below 100 today - 15 days after easing lockdown.

So, are you of the opinion that the virus will peter out now?

I’m saying nothing - just pointing to two facts.

You fo realise their lockdown is still stricter than ours

Really ? How ?

Adults only allowed out between 6 and 10 am and between 8 and 11 pm. Only allowed to be out within 1 km of their property.

Maybe depends on the region in Spain, I know you can’t even cross into Murcia from Almeria even if the supermarket is nearer in crossing the border, heavy fine if you are caught. You can only cycle in your own town and walking is just 1km if your house. They have opened some bars in our area of Spain but only to 50% of capacity and outside terrace only. They only allow 2 people to a car and that’s the same household, up until last week one had to sit in the back, both couldn’t sit in the front

Friend out in Soain got finded last week €100. "

Thread is about Italy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Spain death toll below 100 today - 15 days after easing lockdown.

So, are you of the opinion that the virus will peter out now?

I’m saying nothing - just pointing to two facts.

You fo realise their lockdown is still stricter than ours

Really ? How ?

Adults only allowed out between 6 and 10 am and between 8 and 11 pm. Only allowed to be out within 1 km of their property.

Maybe depends on the region in Spain, I know you can’t even cross into Murcia from Almeria even if the supermarket is nearer in crossing the border, heavy fine if you are caught. You can only cycle in your own town and walking is just 1km if your house. They have opened some bars in our area of Spain but only to 50% of capacity and outside terrace only. They only allow 2 people to a car and that’s the same household, up until last week one had to sit in the back, both couldn’t sit in the front

Friend out in Soain got finded last week €100.

Thread is about Italy"

it started about italy, about half the posts have been comparing it to spain though

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"I've had emails from the guest houses and hotels I normally stay in when I go to Italy informing me that they are taking bookings from mid june x

so? are you going this year?"

yes fingers crossed. I havent cancelled my trips in October or December yet anyway but may go in July.. will keep an eye on how things are

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By *nmgCouple
over a year ago

Liverpool


"6 of one, half a dozen of the other actually.

This can be a fatal illness and it is imperative that we do all we can to.combat it and get our lives back.

However there are a lot of people (on here and in all aspects of our lives) who have turned to paranoid scaremongering.

We need to keep a realistic lid on this. We WONT be social distancing for the rest of our lives, we WONT see pubs and clubs closed for ever.

Of the black death was successfully controlled with the backwards science that was available then, and Spanish Flu was.successfully controlled with much more basic knowledge & techniques than we have now then we WILL succeed against Covid 19.

This is not the time for panic and doom & gloom!

The black death killed 60% of Europes population

I wouldnt say that was successfully controlling it"

And it no longer does kill 60% of Europe's population.

I would say that is controlling it quite well actually.

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By *D835Man
over a year ago

London


"6 of one, half a dozen of the other actually.

This can be a fatal illness and it is imperative that we do all we can to.combat it and get our lives back.

However there are a lot of people (on here and in all aspects of our lives) who have turned to paranoid scaremongering.

We need to keep a realistic lid on this. We WONT be social distancing for the rest of our lives, we WONT see pubs and clubs closed for ever.

Of the black death was successfully controlled with the backwards science that was available then, and Spanish Flu was.successfully controlled with much more basic knowledge & techniques than we have now then we WILL succeed against Covid 19.

This is not the time for panic and doom & gloom!

The black death killed 60% of Europes population

I wouldnt say that was successfully controlling it"

indeed that’s not ‘successfully controlling’ it. Most of it died out with the people it killed.

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By *arkb73Man
over a year ago

Cheshire/Staffs


"Alas, this fact is pretty meaningless. As it can take around three weeks to die after being diagnosed with the virus. "

Three weeks now? It used to be two weeks or even a day based on the agenda of whoever is plucking these figures from the air.

Spain went down again yesterday in terms of deaths - 16 days after easing lockdown.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They did have a much stricter lock down to begin with for a good 60-70 days, but also I’ve heard they are taking strict measures about wearing masks whatever they go (something we don’t see here) and taking every precaution possible.

I guess time will tell, but it’s definitely positive to see how they are back to try move forward

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By *riar Belisse OP   Woman
over a year ago

Delightful Bliss


"They did have a much stricter lock down to begin with for a good 60-70 days, but also I’ve heard they are taking strict measures about wearing masks whatever they go (something we don’t see here) and taking every precaution possible.

I guess time will tell, but it’s definitely positive to see how they are back to try move forward "

That is what we need to see, a positive way showing that people can live with this virus, so we can happily move forward

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By *ncutgemMan
over a year ago

Bath ish


"Eyes will be on italy as restaurants open tomorrow, as he said we cannot afford to wait for a vaccine anymore

Indeed

One wonders what Italy will do if the numbers start shooting up again

Import it here like they did in january

Not to mention what we will do"

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