FabSwingers.com forum: Hydroxychloroquine

By *efByOrgasms OP Man
over a year ago

Heads of the Valleys

Have anyone heard of this???

Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.

Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.

But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are not! The french study was totally flawed as it didn’t count the people who didn’t finish the trial!

Guess why they didn’t finish! The Russians are lieing about deaths, treatment, DRS falling out of windows, exploding ventilators etc! They would rather have 5 deaths listed as from fire than Covid19, the Chinese have been lieing from the start and even Trumps own medical advisors have told him it doesn’t work!

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Yes it’s a very common and cheap anti-malarial. I use a form called Paraguil it’s about $5 for 2 weeks supply in Lagos.

When this first came to light about 2 months ago, stocks in the US and Nigeria ran dry and it was dismissed as fake.

Now the UK has recently bought up stocks here and it testing it. Lots of anecdotal evidence seems to suggest it works.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/15/uk-pays-20m-donald-trumps-malaria-drug-covid-cure/

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By *ait88Man
over a year ago

Plymouth

Wikipedia says:

"Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), sold under the brand name Plaquenil among others, is a medication used to prevent and treat malaria in areas where malaria remains sensitive to chloroquine. Other uses include treatment of rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, and porphyria cutanea tarda. It is also being studied as a treatment for COVID-19.

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By *iffy1968Man
over a year ago

STAFFORD

Yes weve heard of it and Ian was prescribed it , but had adverse effects for him so he no longer takes it , plus it can affect your eyes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A study of Veterans Affairs patients hospitalised with the new illness found no benefit and higher death rates among those taking hydroxychloroquine, researchers have said.

More than 27 per cent of patients treated died, compared with an 11.4 per cent death rate in those not treated with the drugs, the Washington Post reports."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-deaths-trump-drug-malaria-covid-19-a9518011.html

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""A study of Veterans Affairs patients hospitalised with the new illness found no benefit and higher death rates among those taking hydroxychloroquine, researchers have said.

More than 27 per cent of patients treated died, compared with an 11.4 per cent death rate in those not treated with the drugs, the Washington Post reports."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-deaths-trump-drug-malaria-covid-19-a9518011.html"

But Trump has a feeling?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""A study of Veterans Affairs patients hospitalised with the new illness found no benefit and higher death rates among those taking hydroxychloroquine, researchers have said.

More than 27 per cent of patients treated died, compared with an 11.4 per cent death rate in those not treated with the drugs, the Washington Post reports."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-deaths-trump-drug-malaria-covid-19-a9518011.html

But Trump has a feeling?"

Of course, and I keep forgetting we are sick of experts!

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By *hav02Man
over a year ago

Glasgow/London

Forget tabloids and reference to shoddy news channels, here is science:

https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1849

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30172-7/fulltext

No benefit.

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By *69BANMan
over a year ago

Reading

"Have anyone heard of this???

Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.

Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.

But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself"

And before you come back next week making a similar post - don't inject disinfectant or try and shine a bright light inside you!

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"Forget tabloids and reference to shoddy news channels, here is science:

https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1849

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30172-7/fulltext

No benefit."

Btw scientific journal links are not allowed here , very specific rules on link you will get a forum ban unless it’s removed.

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By *izzie and VictorCouple
over a year ago

worcestershire

A recent study on this seemed to suggest a potentially higher mortality rate using this drug than without.

No matter what feeling someone has, scientific decisions should be driven by that... science

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By *izzie and VictorCouple
over a year ago

worcestershire

Btw scientific journal links are not allowed here , very specific rules on link you will get a forum ban unless it’s removed. "

Why can’t you link to journals? Wikipedia and news are allowed in the rules? I certainly wouldn’t consider the leading journal of medicine a spam site...

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By *arkb73Man
over a year ago

Cheshire/Staffs

Btw scientific journal links are not allowed here , very specific rules on link you will get a forum ban unless it’s removed.

Why can’t you link to journals? Wikipedia and news are allowed in the rules? I certainly wouldn’t consider the leading journal of medicine a spam site..."

It’s nonsense you can’t link to journals

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes weve heard of it and Ian was prescribed it , but had adverse effects for him so he no longer takes it , plus it can affect your eyes "

My partner used to take it for his back and it worked very well but there can be problems with eyes. Have to be checked yearly

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Btw scientific journal links are not allowed here , very specific rules on link you will get a forum ban unless it’s removed.

Why can’t you link to journals? Wikipedia and news are allowed in the rules? I certainly wouldn’t consider the leading journal of medicine a spam site...

It’s nonsense you can’t link to journals "

No you can’t - read the page about links

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

Nhs is trialing it in combination with an antibiotic. Results from other proper trials haven't been good, generally no benefit. It is still worth trailing, it is cheap and easy to make. However the side effects can be pretty nasty so needs to be trialed and if any good targeted carefully.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Have anyone heard of this???

Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.

Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.

But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself"

If they are using it that is very interesting because every major big time study they have done says not only does it not help, but actually it can do harm to Covid patients....

Why do you think trump stopped pushing it as his miracle cure about 3-4 weeks ago

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Forget tabloids and reference to shoddy news channels, here is science:

https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1849

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30172-7/fulltext

No benefit.

Btw scientific journal links are not allowed here , very specific rules on link you will get a forum ban unless it’s removed. "

It was links to sites that may have nasty viruses attached to them...

I think we can call the British medical association website and the lancet website legitimate....

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By *hav02Man
over a year ago

Glasgow/London

"Forget tabloids and reference to shoddy news channels, here is science:

https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1849

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30172-7/fulltext

No benefit.

Btw scientific journal links are not allowed here , very specific rules on link you will get a forum ban unless it’s removed. "

I can't delete the post, but bmj and Lancet are high impact scientific journals...

More likely to get a virus from the tabloids than a well respected journal

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By *tticusukMan
over a year ago

Formby

"Have anyone heard of this???

Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.

Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.

But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself"

The research has proved it to be ineffective

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Have anyone heard of this???

Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.

Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.

But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself"

Bullshit, even the orange clown doesnt mention it any more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Have anyone heard of this???

Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.

Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.

But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself

If they are using it that is very interesting because every major big time study they have done says not only does it not help, but actually it can do harm to Covid patients....

Why do you think trump stopped pushing it as his miracle cure about 3-4 weeks ago

I can post the link but google "Plandemic 1 back online again"

And if it comes up let me know what you thing. Tried to send you a link for your thoughts on it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Have anyone heard of this???

Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.

Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.

But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself"

Great success but it's a cheap drug.

They are pushing the remdesivir because it's a lot more expensive, from gilead, and more money can be made.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

"Have anyone heard of this???

Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.

Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.

But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself

Great success but it's a cheap drug.

They are pushing the remdesivir because it's a lot more expensive, from gilead, and more money can be made."

Remdesivir and other anti virals are more promising as they have been used successfully with other viruses. HQ and the antibiotic have no real evidence just anecdotal. Potential sideaffects are worse too.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Have anyone heard of this???

Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.

Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.

But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself

Great success but it's a cheap drug.

They are pushing the remdesivir because it's a lot more expensive, from gilead, and more money can be made.

actually Remdesivir was developed as a potential ebola drug but was found not to actually help in the clinical trials....

so it was more of a case of trying all the different drugs they had on their records they had that had already been found safe for humans, just to see if they had a ready made drug they already had rather than having to go out and develop one, which is obviously expensive and time consuming

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By *efByOrgasms OP Man
over a year ago

Heads of the Valleys

"Have anyone heard of this???

Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.

Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.

But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself

If they are using it that is very interesting because every major big time study they have done says not only does it not help, but actually it can do harm to Covid patients....

Why do you think trump stopped pushing it as his miracle cure about 3-4 weeks ago

I can post the link but google "Plandemic 1 back online again"

And if it comes up let me know what you thing. Tried to send you a link for your thoughts on it

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By *ovissime acutamMan
over a year ago

Oxford

"Have anyone heard of this???

Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.

Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.

But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself

Great success but it's a cheap drug.

They are pushing the remdesivir because it's a lot more expensive, from gilead, and more money can be made.

Actually Remedesivir isn’t being “pushed” at all, the ACTT study is currently not open to further recruitment and has not shown any real promise.

The REMAP-CAP and RECOVERY studies have now commenced in which Toclizumab will be used in conjunction with Hydroxychloroquine and an unnamed anti-retroviral.

There seems to be a lot of misinformation on here, I understand as not everyone works in the field but I assure you most viable treatment options are currently going through clinical trials as we speak.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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It’s nonsense you can’t link to journals "

Couldn’t agree more.

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

"Have anyone heard of this???

Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.

Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.

But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself"

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

"Have anyone heard of this???

Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.

Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.

But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself"

Why are you soo late to the party? This news has been out there for weeks and you have just 'stumbled' across it

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Two surveys in the states have both reported there is little or no benefit in its use, in the Washington Post today..

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By *wickermanMan
over a year ago

Staines

Actually Remedesivir isn’t being “pushed” at all, the ACTT study is currently not open to further recruitment and has not shown any real promise.

The REMAP-CAP and RECOVERY studies have now commenced in which Toclizumab will be used in conjunction with Hydroxychloroquine and an unnamed anti-retroviral.

Finally the truth

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

The american trial for remdesivir was partially successful. It cut the recover time of moderately ill covid patients, but further studies were binned due to access problems. Meaning it was either too expensive or more likely it couldn't be manufactured in sufficient quantities.

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By *hav02Man
over a year ago

Glasgow/London

Actually Remedesivir isn’t being “pushed” at all, the ACTT study is currently not open to further recruitment and has not shown any real promise.

The REMAP-CAP and RECOVERY studies have now commenced in which Toclizumab will be used in conjunction with Hydroxychloroquine and an unnamed anti-retroviral.

Finally the truth

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By *efByOrgasms OP Man
over a year ago

Heads of the Valleys

Funny enough Trump has admitted to taking this. So obviously it must be the answer.

If so, no need for lockdown

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Funny enough Trump has admitted to taking this. So obviously it must be the answer.

If so, no need for lockdown "

But HCQ is far too cheap. No matter how successful it is, the pharma companies aren't going to make big money from it, which is always their main aim.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Funny enough Trump has admitted to taking this. So obviously it must be the answer.

If so, no need for lockdown "

I bet he asked.....

I bet doctors gave him something to shut him up....

I bet they gave him skittles.....

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Funny enough Trump has admitted to taking this. So obviously it must be the answer.

If so, no need for lockdown "

He's such a stupid dangerous man. Tomorrow he'll say he's stayed clear of it because of his bleach and cleaning fluid injections

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Forget tabloids and reference to shoddy news channels, here is science:

https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1849

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30172-7/fulltext

No benefit.

Btw scientific journal links are not allowed here , very specific rules on link you will get a forum ban unless it’s removed.

I can't delete the post, but bmj and Lancet are high impact scientific journals...

More likely to get a virus from the tabloids than a well respected journal

I think its because those sites are for health care professionals not the general public.

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By *efByOrgasms OP Man
over a year ago

Heads of the Valleys

"Funny enough Trump has admitted to taking this. So obviously it must be the answer.

If so, no need for lockdown

He's such a stupid dangerous man. Tomorrow he'll say he's stayed clear of it because of his bleach and cleaning fluid injections

Do you actually thinks he injects bleach or anything like

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Have anyone heard of this???

Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.

Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.

But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself"

It is a drug used for malaria and has not proved to be successful. Look at USA AND RUSSIA DEATH TOLL. Think you may want to re think your post

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Umm given the HUGE list of side effects of this particular drug it’s not really a viable option long term.

And I’d take any figures that come out of China or Russia with a nice big pinch of salt.

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By *he James gangCouple
over a year ago

NEWTOWNABBEY

Did you know Trump has investments in his cure all elixir!!!

Anyone who would take trumps advice on medical issues or anything else which for that matter is lacking in smarts! Then again, he has raised awareness of the word, tremendous, which he uses everyother sentence.

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands

"Have anyone heard of this???

Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.

Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.

But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself

It is a drug used for malaria and has not proved to be successful. Look at USA AND RUSSIA DEATH TOLL. Think you may want to re think your post"

You may find this interesting:

Deaths per million of population:

UK 513

USA 278

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By *wickermanMan
over a year ago

Staines

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By *wickermanMan
over a year ago

Staines

Deaths per million of population:

UK 513

USA 278"

Your source for these figures?

Do they use the same definition for "covid death"?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

There is a brilliant video of trump saying he knows its scientifically proven cos someone rang up and told him.

Superb.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

Suppose its the same as saying the bloke from the swinging site says it true lol.

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"Have anyone heard of this???

Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.

Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.

But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself"

Yes, research is a good idea.

Like, Trump's connection to companies behind the anti-malarial drug.

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental

"Did you know Trump has investments in his cure all elixir!!!

Miniscule if any and he doesn't control the trust funds either, they are managed by JP Morgan, he wouldn't have a say where mutual funds are invested. So that statement is mostly false. Thankyou Snopes for the info.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Funny enough Trump has admitted to taking this. So obviously it must be the answer.

If so, no need for lockdown

He's such a stupid dangerous man. Tomorrow he'll say he's stayed clear of it because of his bleach and cleaning fluid injections

Do you actually thinks he injects bleach or anything like

I'm guessing he doesn't take bleach and cleaning fluids but his announcement on this medication is stupid enough. He says a lot for impact and attention of course, including lies

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Suppose its the same as saying the bloke from the swinging site says it true lol."

Except he Is the most powerful man on the planet.

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands

Deaths per million of population:

UK 513

USA 278

Your source for these figures?

Do they use the same definition for "covid death"?

Source for this info is www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ you may find it enlightening.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Suppose its the same as saying the bloke from the swinging site says it true lol.

Except he Is the most powerful man on the planet."

Yes he is. Not much you can do about it.

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By *atexbisexTV/TS
over a year ago

Central London

"Did you know Trump has investments in his cure all elixir!!!

Yes, his alleged financial interest in this appears to be a red herring

According to Forbes the value of Trump’s Sanofi holdings is less than $3,000; out of a total net worth at $2.1 billion

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

What’s the source saying this drug can do more harm than good ? For myself and many others its not a choice, we take this in small dose every day of our lives and much larger dose a few times a year

Currently on Paludrine 100mg daily 500mg daily when Ill and sometimes need a booster of 2000

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By *ovissime acutamMan
over a year ago

Oxford

"What’s the source saying this drug can do more harm than good ? For myself and many others its not a choice, we take this in small dose every day of our lives and much larger dose a few times a year

Currently on Paludrine 100mg daily 500mg daily when Ill and sometimes need a booster of 2000"

It isn’t the same drug as Hydroxychloroquine but if you are referring to anti-malarial drugs in general then I personally wouldn’t be worried. The side effects are limited and it isn’t contra-indicated unless renal impairment is an issue.

In terms of Hydroxychloroquine being ineffective that really is still not an assumption that can be made.

I have said previously we are looking at using it in combination with Toclizumab for not only anti-viral effect but because one of the key problems in critically unwell patients with confirmed Covid-19 is cytokine storm.

It’s hoped the immunomodulatory effects of both drugs will help with inhibiting interleukin 6 and reducing inflammatory effects of Covid acquired pneumonia (There are a number of other benefits)

In terms of it being used as a preventive measure there may not be evidence to justify this as yet, however I would ignore a lot of the information you are hearing on one; how it’s unsafe to take for it’s NICE approved indication and two; people saying it has been confirmed ineffective.

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport

As long as you take it with zinc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Suppose its the same as saying the bloke from the swinging site says it true lol.

Except he Is the most powerful man on the planet."

?He’s in Putins back pocket!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did you know Trump has investments in his cure all elixir!!!

Yes, his alleged financial interest in this appears to be a red herring

According to Forbes the value of Trump’s Sanofi holdings is less than $3,000; out of a total net worth at $2.1 billion"

There is more to it than his investment! Sanofi are being backed by the US for a vaccine. Any publicity that boosts their coffers skill work in the USs favour if they do develop the first vaccine. Da Ifi is a French Company but they have already told the French Government to form a queue behind the US.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Have anyone heard of this???

Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.

Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.

But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself

Bullshit, even the orange clown doesnt mention it any more."

He's confirmed that he's using it for the last 2 nights in his daily comic show. Apparently those that need it for medical reasons are having issues sourcing it because Trump's idiot followers are all buying it up to take. He'll be personally responsible for the deaths of more than just Covid patients.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

When Trump was talking about it the other night, he sounded like one of those travelling snake oil merchants rolling in to town......

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Have anyone heard of this???

Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.

Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.

But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself

Bullshit, even the orange clown doesnt mention it any more.

the us govt bought 30million doses of the stuff from india "just in case" it worked..

hey.. they dont shift themselves unless he pipes up!!!

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By *vbride1963TV/TS
over a year ago

E.K . Glasgow

There’s now a trial of 40,000 in Europe , Asia , Africa and South America to see if it helps prevent coronavirus .

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Now being trialed in Brighton and Oxford

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Have anyone heard of this???

Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.

Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.

But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself

If they are using it that is very interesting because every major big time study they have done says not only does it not help, but actually it can do harm to Covid patients....

Why do you think trump stopped pushing it as his miracle cure about 3-4 weeks ago

I can post the link but google "Plandemic 1 back online again"

And if it comes up let me know what you thing. Tried to send you a link for your thoughts on it

I bet you were the only one who checked it out

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By *plpxp2Couple
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

"When Trump was talking about it the other night, he sounded like one of those travelling snake oil merchants rolling in to town......

When the trails are complete Trump is going to be even more unbearable if it turns out his scientific mind was right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When Trump was talking about it the other night, he sounded like one of those travelling snake oil merchants rolling in to town......

When the trails are complete Trump is going to be even more unbearable if it turns out his scientific mind was right

He is mad as a hatter but for him to be committing on this ...there is something more then he had just dreamt up

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By *efByOrgasms OP Man
over a year ago

Heads of the Valleys

36k death divided by the UK population and what do you get?

0.0005% death rate or 99.995 survival rate.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"36k death divided by the UK population and what do you get?

0.0005% death rate or 99.995 survival rate.

Thankfully contained at these levels due to the lockdown measures

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By *69BANMan
over a year ago

Reading

"36k death divided by the UK population and what do you get?

0.0005% death rate or 99.995 survival rate.

Err no, to get that figure wildly and inaccurately presumes the whole of the UK has had the virus.

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By *estless nativeMan
over a year ago

near Glasgow

"Have anyone heard of this???

Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.

Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.

But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself

Great success but it's a cheap drug.

They are pushing the remdesivir because it's a lot more expensive, from gilead, and more money can be made.

Actually Remedesivir isn’t being “pushed” at all, the ACTT study is currently not open to further recruitment and has not shown any real promise.

The REMAP-CAP and RECOVERY studies have now commenced in which Toclizumab will be used in conjunction with Hydroxychloroquine and an unnamed anti-retroviral.

The Recovery study was underway at least 8 weeks ago, I was in hospital with Covid-19 at the time and took part in the trial.

Each subject was randomly assigned to one of the 3 drugs or a placebo (so 4 options all in) I was assigned to the Hydroxychloroquine group.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

"Have anyone heard of this???

Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.

Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.

But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself

Great success but it's a cheap drug.

They are pushing the remdesivir because it's a lot more expensive, from gilead, and more money can be made.

Actually Remedesivir isn’t being “pushed” at all, the ACTT study is currently not open to further recruitment and has not shown any real promise.

The REMAP-CAP and RECOVERY studies have now commenced in which Toclizumab will be used in conjunction with Hydroxychloroquine and an unnamed anti-retroviral.

The Recovery study was underway at least 8 weeks ago, I was in hospital with Covid-19 at the time and took part in the trial.

Each subject was randomly assigned to one of the 3 drugs or a placebo (so 4 options all in) I was assigned to the Hydroxychloroquine group."

Glad you got better. Looks like the un named anti viral was Remdesivir as it has been approved by the nhs for use today.

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By *ovissime acutamMan
over a year ago

Oxford

"Have anyone heard of this???

Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.

Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.

But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself

Great success but it's a cheap drug.

They are pushing the remdesivir because it's a lot more expensive, from gilead, and more money can be made.

Actually Remedesivir isn’t being “pushed” at all, the ACTT study is currently not open to further recruitment and has not shown any real promise.

The REMAP-CAP and RECOVERY studies have now commenced in which Toclizumab will be used in conjunction with Hydroxychloroquine and an unnamed anti-retroviral.

The Recovery study was underway at least 8 weeks ago, I was in hospital with Covid-19 at the time and took part in the trial.

Each subject was randomly assigned to one of the 3 drugs or a placebo (so 4 options all in) I was assigned to the Hydroxychloroquine group."

I wasn’t debating that, I was merely implying ACTT was closed to recruitment and other treatment options were being explored.

Indeed correct with second a randomisation if progressive covid (as evidenced by hypoxia and inflammatory state) occurs.

There are in fact much newer treatment options that are being explored however, the catalyst study being an example.