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"Well I'm still sticking to the rules and all, But I think it's been all blown out of proportion. " , Good for you, I'm sticking to the rules as well  | |||
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"Well I'm still sticking to the rules and all, But I think it's been all blown out of proportion. " I agree completely with this. | |||
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"Well I'm still sticking to the rules and all, But I think it's been all blown out of proportion. , Good for you, I'm sticking to the rules as well "The cheating professor lockdown will be proud of you | |||
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"Many people die in car crashes but we take that risk" Everyone should do what's right for them, as long as they're not passing the virus to anyone else | |||
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"Well I'm still sticking to the rules and all, But I think it's been all blown out of proportion. , Good for you, I'm sticking to the rules as well
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"Many people die in car crashes but we take that risk" About 1700 a year. 34000 since mid march have died in the UK of Covid 19. Which risk is worth taking? Driving? Yes. Passing on a highly contagious virus that is nothing like driving a car? No. | |||
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"It's a nasty illness, but yes there has been a lot of scare mongering as well." Well it's worked | |||
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"No. 35,000 reasons it's not an exaggeration. In 2 months. To put it into perspective, 32,000 were killed in 3 years of the Blitz in World War 2." Yep  | |||
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"It's a nasty illness, but yes there has been a lot of scare mongering as well. Well it's worked "Yes it has, the politicians have got using fear in campaigning down to a fine art, we saw it in the scots referendum, brexit referendum and the last few general elections. | |||
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"Many people die in car crashes but we take that risk About 1700 a year. 34000 since mid march have died in the UK of Covid 19. Which risk is worth taking? Driving? Yes. Passing on a highly contagious virus that is nothing like driving a car? No." Think it's all about risk, everyone has to work out the risks. | |||
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"It's a nasty illness, but yes there has been a lot of scare mongering as well. Well it's worked "Not enough scaremongering. Wish someone had scared the NHS into buying PPE for their staff...  | |||
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"No. 35,000 reasons it's not an exaggeration. In 2 months. To put it into perspective, 32,000 were killed in 3 years of the Blitz in World War 2." many more were killed in ww2. Millions in fact. I could say put it into perspective that only 0.5% of the population have tragically lost their lives... the fact is that as bad as the virus is...we could do with focussing on positives sometimes not just the deaths... as many many are surviving or not even aware they have had it in the first place.. We now can test for antibodies... It looks like there are some treatments... yet still to much is focusing on the scary bits... | |||
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"Many people die in car crashes but we take that risk" I was watching a discussion on youtube where they mentioned that with lockdown happening there have been far fewer deaths by other means, such as car crashes etc. I wonder if by the end of the year we have total deaths less than would be expected. | |||
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"Many people die in car crashes but we take that risk About 1700 a year. 34000 since mid march have died in the UK of Covid 19. Which risk is worth taking? Driving? Yes. Passing on a highly contagious virus that is nothing like driving a car? No." I think I have a higher risk of dying in a car crash than dying of covid-19 | |||
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"It's a nasty illness, but yes there has been a lot of scare mongering as well. Well it's worked
Not enough scaremongering. Wish someone had scared the NHS into buying PPE for their staff... "Or scared the Tories into better funding the NHS instead of themselves and rich corporate friends. | |||
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"Depending on where you source your information from, you'll create a difference in your understanding of the virus and health risks here. I'd avoid scaremongering rags generally. We know the precise details of the virus. We know the main methods of transmission and rough symptoms. It's killed tens of thousands here and likely would have killed many more if we hadn't isolated for weeks. Accepting its danger and potential impact is reasonable. We need to keep the population safe and healthy " A crashed economy will not keep the population healthy | |||
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"Many people die in car crashes but we take that risk About 1700 a year. 34000 since mid march have died in the UK of Covid 19. Which risk is worth taking? Driving? Yes. Passing on a highly contagious virus that is nothing like driving a car? No. I think I have a higher risk of dying in a car crash than dying of covid-19" But theres a very good chance you'd catch it and pass it on, and the person you pass it on to might not be so lucky. Or the person they pass it on to. So stop being so selfish and only thinking about yourself when it comes to a virus like this. | |||
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"It's a nasty illness, but yes there has been a lot of scare mongering as well. Well it's worked
Not enough scaremongering. Wish someone had scared the NHS into buying PPE for their staff...
Or scared the Tories into better funding the NHS instead of themselves and rich corporate friends."The NHS is a bottomless pit. No matter how much the tories pump into it, it won't be enough | |||
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"Many people die in car crashes but we take that risk About 1700 a year. 34000 since mid march have died in the UK of Covid 19. Which risk is worth taking? Driving? Yes. Passing on a highly contagious virus that is nothing like driving a car? No. I think I have a higher risk of dying in a car crash than dying of covid-19 But theres a very good chance you'd catch it and pass it on, and the person you pass it on to might not be so lucky. Or the person they pass it on to. So stop being so selfish and only thinking about yourself when it comes to a virus like this. " Wanting to avoid mass unemployment is not selfish. The consequences of mass unemployment will be devestating | |||
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"Depending on where you source your information from, you'll create a difference in your understanding of the virus and health risks here. I'd avoid scaremongering rags generally. We know the precise details of the virus. We know the main methods of transmission and rough symptoms. It's killed tens of thousands here and likely would have killed many more if we hadn't isolated for weeks. Accepting its danger and potential impact is reasonable. We need to keep the population safe and healthy A crashed economy will not keep the population healthy" Do you see these two scenarios. One where everyone is at home, and one where everyone is at work? How about a third scenario where everyone gets back to work, the virus spreads exponentially and 20% end up hospitalised. 500 000 people dead. Do you know that if the wealth of the UK was spread out equally no one would ever have to work again? | |||
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"Many people die in car crashes but we take that risk About 1700 a year. 34000 since mid march have died in the UK of Covid 19. Which risk is worth taking? Driving? Yes. Passing on a highly contagious virus that is nothing like driving a car? No. I think I have a higher risk of dying in a car crash than dying of covid-19 But theres a very good chance you'd catch it and pass it on, and the person you pass it on to might not be so lucky. Or the person they pass it on to. So stop being so selfish and only thinking about yourself when it comes to a virus like this. Wanting to avoid mass unemployment is not selfish. The consequences of mass unemployment will be devestating" You can't employ a workforce sticken by a virus. | |||
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"Many people die in car crashes but we take that risk About 1700 a year. 34000 since mid march have died in the UK of Covid 19. Which risk is worth taking? Driving? Yes. Passing on a highly contagious virus that is nothing like driving a car? No. I think I have a higher risk of dying in a car crash than dying of covid-19 But theres a very good chance you'd catch it and pass it on, and the person you pass it on to might not be so lucky. Or the person they pass it on to. So stop being so selfish and only thinking about yourself when it comes to a virus like this. Wanting to avoid mass unemployment is not selfish. The consequences of mass unemployment will be devestating" The consequences of mass deaths, and a health service crippled, will cause mass unemployment also. | |||
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"Many people die in car crashes but we take that risk About 1700 a year. 34000 since mid march have died in the UK of Covid 19. Which risk is worth taking? Driving? Yes. Passing on a highly contagious virus that is nothing like driving a car? No. I think I have a higher risk of dying in a car crash than dying of covid-19 But theres a very good chance you'd catch it and pass it on, and the person you pass it on to might not be so lucky. Or the person they pass it on to. So stop being so selfish and only thinking about yourself when it comes to a virus like this. Wanting to avoid mass unemployment is not selfish. The consequences of mass unemployment will be devestating You can't employ a workforce sticken by a virus." And you can employ a workforce if the economy is fucked . | |||
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"Is it all over exaggerated whatever !! I've lost 3 people to it and my nephew has it !!!! Sorry but don't talk bollocks !!!!!!! Condolences for your loss Some of us seem to have lost their humanity. "never read o ps thread correctly hence why I deleted my first comment which is the comment you quoted ,,, thank you for your words | |||
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"Depending on where you source your information from, you'll create a difference in your understanding of the virus and health risks here. I'd avoid scaremongering rags generally. We know the precise details of the virus. We know the main methods of transmission and rough symptoms. It's killed tens of thousands here and likely would have killed many more if we hadn't isolated for weeks. Accepting its danger and potential impact is reasonable. We need to keep the population safe and healthy A crashed economy will not keep the population healthy Do you see these two scenarios. One where everyone is at home, and one where everyone is at work? How about a third scenario where everyone gets back to work, the virus spreads exponentially and 20% end up hospitalised. 500 000 people dead. Do you know that if the wealth of the UK was spread out equally no one would ever have to work again?" Ah, so what would we be spending the money on if noone was producing anything? Would that include NHS staff? Not that it would matter as spiralling hyperinflation would soon take care of it. another scenario..How about where people return to work where they are within guidleines, social distancing and R is monitored to stay below 1... which is the current plan, rather than your own slice of doom and gloom. Worth a try | |||
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"Depending on where you source your information from, you'll create a difference in your understanding of the virus and health risks here. I'd avoid scaremongering rags generally. We know the precise details of the virus. We know the main methods of transmission and rough symptoms. It's killed tens of thousands here and likely would have killed many more if we hadn't isolated for weeks. Accepting its danger and potential impact is reasonable. We need to keep the population safe and healthy A crashed economy will not keep the population healthy Do you see these two scenarios. One where everyone is at home, and one where everyone is at work? How about a third scenario where everyone gets back to work, the virus spreads exponentially and 20% end up hospitalised. 500 000 people dead. Do you know that if the wealth of the UK was spread out equally no one would ever have to work again? Ah, so what would we be spending the money on if noone was producing anything? Would that include NHS staff? Not that it would matter as spiralling hyperinflation would soon take care of it. another scenario..How about where people return to work where they are within guidleines, social distancing and R is monitored to stay below 1... which is the current plan, rather than your own slice of doom and gloom. Worth a try "We've been living under social distancing guidelines for 6weeks and still have 3000 new cases every day. Since the relaxation of lockdown the R number has gone up. There is NO scenario where we come out of this without heavy casualties unless there is much more testing than we have now. | |||
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"Depending on where you source your information from, you'll create a difference in your understanding of the virus and health risks here. I'd avoid scaremongering rags generally. We know the precise details of the virus. We know the main methods of transmission and rough symptoms. It's killed tens of thousands here and likely would have killed many more if we hadn't isolated for weeks. Accepting its danger and potential impact is reasonable. We need to keep the population safe and healthy A crashed economy will not keep the population healthy Do you see these two scenarios. One where everyone is at home, and one where everyone is at work? How about a third scenario where everyone gets back to work, the virus spreads exponentially and 20% end up hospitalised. 500 000 people dead. Do you know that if the wealth of the UK was spread out equally no one would ever have to work again? Ah, so what would we be spending the money on if noone was producing anything? Would that include NHS staff? Not that it would matter as spiralling hyperinflation would soon take care of it. another scenario..How about where people return to work where they are within guidleines, social distancing and R is monitored to stay below 1... which is the current plan, rather than your own slice of doom and gloom. Worth a try
We've been living under social distancing guidelines for 6weeks and still have 3000 new cases every day. Since the relaxation of lockdown the R number has gone up.
There is NO scenario where we come out of this without heavy casualties unless there is much more testing than we have now."Testing varies in its efficacy and is not panacea but another tool. A vaccine is a long way off and may never be achievable if viral mutations play out or (as is still unclear) it turns out getting the virus does not confer onward immunity. We cannot stay in lockdown in perpetuity. The economics are tricky but poverty has a massive reduction in overall life expectancy and kills far more. Given these facts then selective controlled exposure is actually sensible. Brutal reality (as several epidemiologists have said) is that you are high risk if you were already likely to die this year. Beyond that group the risk drops rapidly. But Ops thread was about scaremongering, Focussing on the casualties and the death count is a form of scare tactic, albeit not 'mongering' where you might extrapolate for your own agenda generally to sell something. Noone pays for opinions on Fab | |||
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"No. 35,000 reasons it's not an exaggeration. In 2 months. To put it into perspective, 32,000 were killed in 3 years of the Blitz in World War 2. many more were killed in ww2. Millions in fact. I could say put it into perspective that only 0.5% of the population have tragically lost their lives... the fact is that as bad as the virus is...we could do with focussing on positives sometimes not just the deaths... as many many are surviving or not even aware they have had it in the first place.. We now can test for antibodies... It looks like there are some treatments... yet still to much is focusing on the scary bits... " | |||
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"Many people die in car crashes but we take that risk Everyone should do what's right for them, as long as they're not passing the virus to anyone else Millons of people driveing cars pass within less than 2 mitres of each other every day, but 40,too of them do not die every 2 months " | |||
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"Many people die in car crashes but we take that risk" They wouldnt, if that risk was guarenteed to be a 50 % chance every time you got in a car . Best to leave the car.at home untill the problem is fixed . | |||
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"There is a lot of focussing on the negative and no balance. So yea I think there is a lot of scare tactics going on Why dont they list the amount of survivors on a weekly basis for example x" | |||
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"Many people die in car crashes but we take that risk About 1700 a year. 34000 since mid march have died in the UK of Covid 19. Which risk is worth taking? Driving? Yes. Passing on a highly contagious virus that is nothing like driving a car? No. I think I have a higher risk of dying in a car crash than dying of covid-19" You think you have. Covid 19 doesn't care what you think though. It literally doesn't give a fuck about what you think. It also doesn't care about the people you pass it on to, how much you love them, how much at risk they are, or they in turn will pass it on to. I find it amazing that despite everything that's happened in the last few months, despite the wealth of *information out there, some people still think they're immortal. *genuine information, not Karen on BookFace | |||
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"Well I'm still sticking to the rules and all, But I think it's been all blown out of proportion. " I totally agree. | |||
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"There is a lot of focussing on the negative and no balance. So yea I think there is a lot of scare tactics going on Why dont they list the amount of survivors on a weekly basis for example x "
It wouldn't take away from the sad fact that 1000s had died with the virus but would give people a better perspective. | |||
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"There is a lot of focussing on the negative and no balance. So yea I think there is a lot of scare tactics going on Why dont they list the amount of survivors on a weekly basis for example x
It wouldn't take away from the sad fact that 1000s had died with the virus but would give people a better perspective. "It would be good to inform the public that it is a very small % that require hospitalisation and an even smaller % which results in death. Seens as the government are obsessed with figures and graphs, some balance would be sensible. | |||
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"Personally yes, but I think if they didn't people wouldn't respect the lockdown rules and we'd end up in a worse situation than we already are. But I have done some research not just read the headlines and panicked. MrsXOXO "
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"Is it all over exaggerated " Absolutely yes. And here is the cheif medical offoce chris whitty pretty much saying just that. Listen to this 2 min clip and then then ask yourself if what he just said in any way would justify a world wide lock down. https://youtu.be/adj8MCsZKlg | |||
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"Is it all over exaggerated Absolutely yes. And here is the cheif medical offoce chris whitty pretty much saying just that. Listen to this 2 min clip and then then ask yourself if what he just said in any way would justify a world wide lock down. https://youtu.be/adj8MCsZKlg" The whole fiasco is ludicrous beyond belief | |||
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"Many people die in car crashes but we take that risk" I agree , but if you are too risky with behaviour and catch covid19 your potential to spread it to family, friends and members of the public potentially causing death is far higher than you having a car crash and injuring/killing . | |||
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"The seriousness and awareness has to be heightened and make people frightened.Its the only way to drive the message home and make people take heed.To eradicate or control this virus,it first needs to be controlled.To do this it has being proven that washing hands properly,social distancing(at least 2 metres)and the wearing of face masks in public places will stem the spread.Protect the vulnerable(old people and those with underlying illnesses)and we should come out the otherside just fine "Oh right so scare people half to death and for those with a mental health diagnosis that’s just fine then what a load of crap I work in mental health and I see on a day to day basis the effect of all this !!! What rubbish | |||
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"Is it all over exaggerated " So OP let me ask you a question. Let's play a game we have a time machine. Let's roll clocks back to the start of march and when it properly began to hit home on our shores. So people start dying and getting seriously sick, government does nothing more than advising people to stay 2m apart, wash hands and avoid unnecessary travel, social gatherings and meeting in large groups. Maybe wear a mask if coming into contact with infected people. Would you have taken it seriously? Would you have taken any notice of warnings? I doubt it if you think our current situation has been"blown out of proportion and exaggerated" So our new scenario carries on, people start dying, people start panicing, asking why isn't government doing any more why aren't they warning people about how serious this is(see where this is going?) The death count start's growing 1000,2000,....10,000 ,20...30..40.70,000, 100,000 all dead in a number of weeks meantime government says it's nothing to worry about it's fine once the sick and old people are dead everyone under 50 will be fine. But the people are up in arm's ,why didn't we lock down like other countries (200,000dead) why didn't you warn us how serious it is ( 300,000) You ask ,it's really serious why no Extreme measures? Roll onto where we stand currently with no with no measures put in place. The NHS would be overwhelmed on its knees half the population infected of that 30plus million probably two -three million would probably end up dying one way or another as a result of covid 19. If nothing had been done to blow this out of proportion. Extreme measures taken and in country warned over 30,000 season 8 week's. Well fuck me if that's not something that needs taking seriously then frankly anyone who has this mentality wants their heads examined. Blow out of proportion OP I don't think so! | |||
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"I think trying to stop a virus spreading through the population is like Canute trying to stop the tide" but its not about stopping the virus spreading its about stopping it spreading to quickly so that the wrecked NHS can cope and the populace dont cotton on . look at what happend in italy theyre hospitals couldnt cope | |||
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"Many people die in car crashes but we take that risk" I don't get these types of comparisons. If I get in my car and have an accident I'm likely to injure only myself. If I'm infected and get on the bus and cough or sneeze I'm likely to infect all around me. They then get off and have the potential to do the same. The fact this virus came to our attention in December 2019 and by March 2020 we were one of the last countries to lockdown shows the terrifying speed of this virus. For me personally, what made me think this virus is more than we think and the powers that be are "relieved" the fatalities are less than they thought, is the fact that almost worldwide, regardless of politics, religion, economies nations have gone into some form of lockdown/social distancing. Everyone singing or humming along to the same hymn sheet just doesn't happen. In all likelihood at the end of this everything we've worked for will be gone. At 60 it's a frightening prospect, but you know what, my youngest and her husband survived this, my family is still complete and we are in constant contact. Life will be hard, but my family and I are still standing and we can rebuild...because we're alive to do so. | |||
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"Many people die in car crashes but we take that risk" Absolutely ridiculous comparison. Besides how many hundreds of millions of pounds has been spent over the years improving car and road safety. Can't see anyone complaining about that? We take driving as dangerous activity and follow the health and safety advice given,yes people still die usually through human error. But comparing the two is frankly insane. | |||
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"If it wasn't for the things my relative who's a critical care nurse has been telling me I might think there was scaremongering going on too. She's frightened and seriously considering giving up nursing." My sister did. She's a single parent with an 18 year old and a 13 year old with special needs. She lucky to be mortgage free and owns three properties she rents out. She said there was no way she was going to work with limited ppe, especially as she's black, to put herself in harms way and leave her children orphans. | |||
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"It's a nasty illness, but yes there has been a lot of scare mongering as well. Well it's worked
Not enough scaremongering. Wish someone had scared the NHS into buying PPE for their staff... "Wish the government who ran a scenario in 2016 had bought PPE for the NHS.... | |||
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"I think trying to stop a virus spreading through the population is like Canute trying to stop the tide" Singapore managed it. Germany managed it | |||
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"Fear and theatre news are a toxic combination, we had boris as a positive figurehead to start with, which then jumped to captain Tom moore, now we need another positive figurehead to look up to and trust in order to pull us out of the pit of coronavirus anxiety more and more people are in, if that alone gives people enough courage to make a decision which fits for their lives, be it stay at home or go out without feeling the need to attack others for their choices we can move forward" Boris is a positive figurehead? He’s an incompetent buffoon and this pandemic has proved it,,,, still I suppose we are No.1 in Europe for something.....Covid 19 deaths. | |||
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"Many people die in car crashes but we take that risk Absolutely ridiculous comparison. Besides how many hundreds of millions of pounds has been spent over the years improving car and road safety. Can't see anyone complaining about that? We take driving as dangerous activity and follow the health and safety advice given,yes people still die usually through human error. But comparing the two is frankly insane. " The comparison is based on risk. No one is saying they are the same but both involve risk. | |||
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"If it wasn't for the things my relative who's a critical care nurse has been telling me I might think there was scaremongering going on too. She's frightened and seriously considering giving up nursing. My sister did. She's a single parent with an 18 year old and a 13 year old with special needs. She lucky to be mortgage free and owns three properties she rents out. She said there was no way she was going to work with limited ppe, especially as she's black, to put herself in harms way and leave her children orphans. " , I don't blame her. I think a lot of people in the medical and care professions will leave. I read that a lot of people are enquiring about becoming nurses. I remember people queuing to join the army when the Falklands war broke out. I don't think lots of them see beyond the word hero. | |||
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"Many people die in car crashes but we take that risk I don't get these types of comparisons. If I get in my car and have an accident I'm likely to injure only myself. If I'm infected and get on the bus and cough or sneeze I'm likely to infect all around me. They then get off and have the potential to do the same. The fact this virus came to our attention in December 2019 and by March 2020 we were one of the last countries to lockdown shows the terrifying speed of this virus. *** For me personally, what made me think this virus is more than we think and the powers that be are "relieved" the fatalities are less than they thought, is the fact that almost worldwide, regardless of politics, religion, economies nations have gone into some form of lockdown/social distancing. Everyone singing or humming along to the same hymn sheet just doesn't happen. *** In all likelihood at the end of this everything we've worked for will be gone. At 60 it's a frightening prospect, but you know what, my youngest and her husband survived this, my family is still complete and we are in constant contact. Life will be hard, but my family and I are still standing and we can rebuild...because we're alive to do so." *** | |||
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"The sad fact is that until this sort of thing affects someone you are close to, most people will think it’s irrelevant to them. I fully understand the negative impact on mental health etc by focusing on deaths etc, but even with “scaremongering” there are people not taking any of this seriously. Just look at the protests in London yesterday..." No one thinks it’s irrelevant but some people feel their civil liberties are being threatened by a disease that kills around 2% of the population. That may be anathema to you, and I understand why that is but they are entitled to their fears just as you are entitled to yours. | |||
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"If it wasn't for the things my relative who's a critical care nurse has been telling me I might think there was scaremongering going on too. She's frightened and seriously considering giving up nursing. My sister did. She's a single parent with an 18 year old and a 13 year old with special needs. She lucky to be mortgage free and owns three properties she rents out. She said there was no way she was going to work with limited ppe, especially as she's black, to put herself in harms way and leave her children orphans. I can see why she has left and that is her right and she must do what is right for her family.But what would happen if all NHS staff thought like that and bale out when the going got tough? " , We'd be up the creek without a paddle but maybe we'd same up,start treating them better and insist that they were funded correctly. They're people and owe us nothing. | |||
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Not enough scaremongering. Wish someone had scared the NHS into buying PPE for their staff...
Wish the government who ran a scenario in 2016 had bought PPE for the NHS...."They did by the looks of it but left distribution to a bunch of numpties that didn't have a clue how to do logistics. But you do think that when a service supplier signs a contract that they will fulfill their side of the bargain for the amount of money you are paying. Like everyone else pre-pandemic we were living in blissful ignorance. Another lesson learnt hopefully. | |||
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"So it would be acceptable for a soldier knowing the full danger when he/she joined up to leave the front line when the shooting starts? He /she may not owe us anything but he/she does owe a duty to their fellow soldiers. Another ridiculous comparison. Perhaps if the army supplied the soldiers with plastic need guns that fired foam bullets and uniforms made from Recycled paper. Both of which would be completely infective for a soldier to be able to carry out his job then yes they probably would decide not to do their jobs in which case would be justifiable. As is the case for NHS having the inappropriate and lacking PPE. It's a battle and going in with the incorrect equipment is going to result in death's. " *Nerf gun's* not need | |||
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"So it would be acceptable for a soldier knowing the full danger when he/she joined up to leave the front line when the shooting starts? He /she may not owe us anything but he/she does owe a duty to their fellow soldiers. Nurses aren't soldiers and didn't sign up to fight a war" The previous fetish for the military has now been transferred to the nhs. Ergo, no one is worth anything unless they work in the health service, just like the views on the army previous to the pandemic. | |||
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"Is it all over exaggerated " Tell that to the doctors an nurses who are treating people. An the 34000+ families who have lost someone to it. | |||
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"Is it all over exaggerated Tell that to the doctors an nurses who are treating people. An the 34000+ families who have lost someone to it." And the silly cunts who are demonstrating in london | |||
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"So it would be acceptable for a soldier knowing the full danger when he/she joined up to leave the front line when the shooting starts? He /she may not owe us anything but he/she does owe a duty to their fellow soldiers. Nurses aren't soldiers and didn't sign up to fight a war" No they did not but they knew full well that they may well in the future have to treat sick people who may be carrying disease's/viruses etc. Its part of the job. | |||
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"There is a lot of focussing on the negative and no balance. So yea I think there is a lot of scare tactics going on Why dont they list the amount of survivors on a weekly basis for example x" That’s the government’s decision! | |||
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"Is it all over exaggerated Tell that to the doctors an nurses who are treating people. An the 34000+ families who have lost someone to it. And the silly cunts who are demonstrating in london" OK but let's not forget the family's of the 34,200 who died of the flu virus last year, or maybe most died because they where old or vulnerable so that's ok. | |||
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"To contradict myself slightly, the death figures for April, may and June 2019 were higher than this year's at the same time,as we're 2018,reas into that what you will" Read* | |||
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"It's a nasty illness, but yes there has been a lot of scare mongering as well. Well it's worked
Not enough scaremongering. Wish someone had scared the NHS into buying PPE for their staff...
Wish the government who ran a scenario in 2016 had bought PPE for the NHS....
They did by the looks of it but left distribution to a bunch of numpties that didn't have a clue how to do logistics. But you do think that when a service supplier signs a contract that they will fulfill their side of the bargain for the amount of money you are paying. Like everyone else pre-pandemic we were living in blissful ignorance. Another lesson learnt hopefully."Unfortunately the government has increased its usage of private companies during this pandemic, which seemingly ignores that kind of experience. We've had some of the testing being transferred to organisations without any experience whatsoever of this type of work before. A lot of hospitals were failed in getting their staff tested and results returned by these new private businesses taking over testing orders, despite the NHS there being experienced and even on site, in many instances. Disaster capitalism always gets sneaked in during these crises. | |||
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"Is it all over exaggerated Tell that to the doctors an nurses who are treating people. An the 34000+ families who have lost someone to it." And you tell the millions of families unaffected by death but affected by poverty, no education, no work etc that it’s all been worth it. | |||
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"Many people die in car crashes but we take that risk" In 3 months in the UK approx 500 people die in car related accidents. In 3 months in the UK approx 40,000 people have died due to Covid 19. You have an 80x greater chance of losing your life from Covid 19 than from a car accident. So it is clearly a very different level of risk  | |||
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"Is it all over exaggerated Tell that to the doctors an nurses who are treating people. An the 34000+ families who have lost someone to it. And you tell the millions of families unaffected by death but affected by poverty, no education, no work etc that it’s all been worth it. " Yes, there are so much you can compare it to if you go by the numbers, one is the malnutrition in afrika. | |||
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"It's a nasty illness, but yes there has been a lot of scare mongering as well. Well it's worked
Not enough scaremongering. Wish someone had scared the NHS into buying PPE for their staff...
Or scared the Tories into better funding the NHS instead of themselves and rich corporate friends.
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"The news has a horrible habit of showing only the bad news the worst offender is sky news constantly talking about the downsides, if you lived under a rock and the first thing you saw was the news you'd think it was the bloody apocalypse. " Aye we are all domed. ..domed I say. | |||
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"Is it all over exaggerated " yes its serous but over the top more people will be affected with mental health issues over this and financial problems then anythink the virus will give | |||
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"Till people you know start to die. Our friend works on a covid ward and so far there’s been a minimum of two covid deaths each time she’s worked. It makes it all quite real...." most of people who are dying would pass away with anythink they caught I feel sorry for young who's life are being ruined by this | |||
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"Till people you know start to die. Our friend works on a covid ward and so far there’s been a minimum of two covid deaths each time she’s worked. It makes it all quite real...." You've got to take that in perspective of the amount of people who die each day that isn't covid related, we don't hear about them in the news every day, so we don't know & it doesn't affect us unless you know them. People murdered, killed in accidents, cancer deaths, suicides, old age, heart attacks and the rest. More people survive than die of covid-19 also and a vaccine may never be found. | |||
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"The sad fact is that until this sort of thing affects someone you are close to, most people will think it’s irrelevant to them. I fully understand the negative impact on mental health etc by focusing on deaths etc, but even with “scaremongering” there are people not taking any of this seriously. Just look at the protests in London yesterday... No one thinks it’s irrelevant but some people feel their civil liberties are being threatened by a disease that kills around 2% of the population. That may be anathema to you, and I understand why that is but they are entitled to their fears just as you are entitled to yours. " | |||
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"Till people you know start to die. Our friend works on a covid ward and so far there’s been a minimum of two covid deaths each time she’s worked. It makes it all quite real.... You've got to take that in perspective of the amount of people who die each day that isn't covid related, we don't hear about them in the news every day, so we don't know & it doesn't affect us unless you know them. People murdered, killed in accidents, cancer deaths, suicides, old age, heart attacks and the rest. More people survive than die of covid-19 also and a vaccine may never be found. " You do understand...that people die...every day..that these norms of death..will carry on...that the reason the scientific community and governments. Have gone...oh boy.. lockdown..is to do with its transmission rate..the numbers of people each person can infect..and the snowballing of numbers ill and dead.. | |||
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"Many people die in car crashes but we take that risk They wouldnt, if that risk was guarenteed to be a 50 % chance every time you got in a car . Best to leave the car.at home untill the problem is fixed . " This is the a perfect example of how the scaremongering works. Suggesting a 50% death rate. For a healthy person the chance of dying if you catch the virus is tiny so you can lead your normal life without fear. If the vulnerable isolate then their chance of catching it is small so their chance of dying is then also small. Instead the government tries to tell us we are all at great risk by highlighting the rare times that a younger person dies when one look at their photo shows that they hadn't eaten a salad in years. Don't tell me you weren't suggesting a 50% death rate from the virus | |||
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"Many people die in car crashes but we take that risk They wouldnt, if that risk was guarenteed to be a 50 % chance every time you got in a car . Best to leave the car.at home untill the problem is fixed . This is the a perfect example of how the scaremongering works. Suggesting a 50% death rate. For a healthy person the chance of dying if you catch the virus is tiny so you can lead your normal life without fear. If the vulnerable isolate then their chance of catching it is small so their chance of dying is then also small. Instead the government tries to tell us we are all at great risk by highlighting the rare times that a younger person dies when one look at their photo shows that they hadn't eaten a salad in years. Don't tell me you weren't suggesting a 50% death rate from the virus " A ‘healthy’ person is unlikely to die, however a ‘healthy’ person with the virus can easily pass it on to a more vulnerable person who is more likely to die. | |||
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Yes it has, the politicians have got using fear in campaigning down to a fine art, we saw it in the scots referendum, brexit referendum and the last few general elections."So if that’s the case, why did the country elect a Tory government? All we can say is it’s a good job they did as imagine the complete shambles if any of the other parties were in the hot seat through this  | |||
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"Till people you know start to die. Our friend works on a covid ward and so far there’s been a minimum of two covid deaths each time she’s worked. It makes it all quite real...." Agree with this, while I’m sticking to the rule... I don’t know anyone effected -thankfully! Only one work connection suffered with it, but he’s okay now. I think there’s slot more to this, not sure if it’s a global conspiracy to make us change or culture in everyday lives - global issues, or thinning the herd! I mean this does seem to attack certain people (age, race) don’t mean to upset or cause offense. Guess we’re never know! | |||
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"It's a nasty illness, but yes there has been a lot of scare mongering as well. Well it's worked
Yes it has, the politicians have got using fear in campaigning down to a fine art, we saw it in the scots referendum, brexit referendum and the last few general elections.
So if that’s the case, why did the country elect a Tory government?
All we can say is it’s a good job they did as imagine the complete shambles if any of the other parties were in the hot seat through this "Ha, that type of comment always makes me laugh. The Tories aren’t dealing with the current crisis very well but that’s ok, the other parties ‘might’ have been worse . | |||
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"I have a family member who still says its some kind of new world order big brother crap made up just to control the population. We just ignore them when they go on about it." We all know someone like that, it is always a good idea to ignore their ill informed rants | |||
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"Is it all over exaggerated " Totally, the overall death rate is similar to severe flu, other previous flu outbreaks in the UK have killed more people (expressed as deaths per million, the lockdown is killing thousands from collateral damage (see the recent British Medical journal article). The testing of cases both of people with the virus and afterwards for antibodies is deeply flawed. The economy is in melt down and this will lead to many thousands of deaths (millions in the developing world). | |||
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"Is it all over exaggerated Totally, the overall death rate is similar to severe flu, other previous flu outbreaks in the UK have killed more people (expressed as deaths per million, the lockdown is killing thousands from collateral damage (see the recent British Medical journal article). The testing of cases both of people with the virus and afterwards for antibodies is deeply flawed. The economy is in melt down and this will lead to many thousands of deaths (millions in the developing world). " Why are you comparing it with flu? Has flu ever killed 35,000 people in 3 months? If it wasn’t for the lockdown and other preventive measures it would be double that figure . | |||
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"Why ignore them??? have you looked into their reasoning, why ignore then and not the government????? Are you hapoy living in a dictatorship that says do as i say not as i do, take the health minister who went to visit her second home, i assume thats ok in your books when she tells you to do one thibg but then she went against her own advice" | |||
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"The virus hasnt killed that many people, its public knowledge that the virus was recorded on death certificates of people who died of heart atracks, strokes car crashes to manipulate the figures to get this emergency bill passed" | |||
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"The virus hasnt killed that many people, its public knowledge that the virus was recorded on death certificates of people who died of heart atracks, strokes car crashes to manipulate the figures to get this emergency bill passed" Why? | |||
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"Is it all over exaggerated Tell that to the doctors an nurses who are treating people. An the 34000+ families who have lost someone to it. And you tell the millions of families unaffected by death but affected by poverty, no education, no work etc that it’s all been worth it. " There were millions of families affected by poverty, poor education and unemployment before the virus. You and your kind didn't give a fuck about them then. Why the concern now? Could it be that those on the right end of the inequality spectrum fear their wealth and comfort may be threatened by a recession, more than they fear the loss of life amongst the less well off and the vulnerable? Perish the thought. Right? | |||
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"Is it all over exaggerated Tell that to the doctors an nurses who are treating people. An the 34000+ families who have lost someone to it. And you tell the millions of families unaffected by death but affected by poverty, no education, no work etc that it’s all been worth it. There were millions of families affected by poverty, poor education and unemployment before the virus. You and your kind didn't give a fuck about them then. Why the concern now? Could it be that those on the right end of the inequality spectrum fear their wealth and comfort may be threatened by a recession, more than they fear the loss of life amongst the less well off and the vulnerable? Perish the thought. Right?" | |||
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Yes it has, the politicians have got using fear in campaigning down to a fine art, we saw it in the scots referendum, brexit referendum and the last few general elections.
So if that’s the case, why did the country elect a Tory government?
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"Why, because the bill wouldn't have been granted And? Perhaps you need to expand on you one word questions? " Have you got 2 profiles on here? Why would the government want to pass a bill that wasn’t necessary? What will it gain from this? Btw, I think the governments response to the crisis has been a shambles but I am struggling to find a reason for imposing an unnecessary lock down that has cost £100s billions | |||
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"Many people die in car crashes but we take that risk" People die in car crashes, of course they do, but in my 50+ years I can count on the fingers of one hand the people I've known (or are close to people I know) who've died in a car crash. Conversely covid has affected many people I know in 3 months even with the lockdown measures, do you think it would have been better without them? | |||
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"There is a lot of focussing on the negative and no balance. So yea I think there is a lot of scare tactics going on Why dont they list the amount of survivors on a weekly basis for example x" Because ‘survivors’ isnt an important figure. Its not that its scaremongering than it is reporting facts. Virus’ & diseases are almost always measured in a means by which we know how ‘deadly’ they are. By reporting how deadly the virus is you safeguard the populus by means of giving them relevent information. The converse of this would be to also report ‘survival’ figures - this is dangerous. The danger of reporting such figures leads to the populus not taking the virus seriously, not being vigilant & ultimately aiding in the spreading of the disease/virus. As a virus spreads & moves from host to host this enables it to firstly - encounter more of the general populus making it more deadly by virtue of infection more people & secondly - gives the virus a huge increase in ability to mutate as every host is a new chance for the virus to develop its own genetic code further. If that happens whilst people are being whimsical about the severity of the disease or virus, the virus then becomes more deadly in itself & by the time the populus can react proportionately the death toll has already risen considerably & the effort taken to find a vaccine/cure is also considerably more as mutations can render research to that point obsolete. In short - they arent telling you the survival rate because its dangerous to do so. A quick glance of the comments on this thread back that theory resoundingly. | |||
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"So it would be acceptable for a soldier knowing the full danger when he/she joined up to leave the front line when the shooting starts? He /she may not owe us anything but he/she does owe a duty to their fellow soldiers. Nurses aren't soldiers and didn't sign up to fight a warNo they did not but they knew full well that they may well in the future have to treat sick people who may be carrying disease's/viruses etc. Its part of the job. " I highly doubt when a number of my friends signed up to be a nurse they expected to be asked to treat people with a deadly virus without the proper protective equipment to do so & therefore risk their own lives to do so. If you honestly think that nurses & doctors can be used as ‘cannon fodder’ against this virus rather than used to fight it & protected properly - AS ANYONE SHOULD BE - then I genuinely have no words for you. Well, not polite ones anyway. | |||
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"Why, because the bill wouldn't have been granted And? Perhaps you need to expand on you one word questions? Have you got 2 profiles on here? Why would the government want to pass a bill that wasn’t necessary? What will it gain from this? Btw, I think the governments response to the crisis has been a shambles but I am struggling to find a reason for imposing an unnecessary lock down that has cost £100s billions " What has a second fab profile got to do with any of this? Just curious. | |||
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"Why, because the bill wouldn't have been granted And? Perhaps you need to expand on you one word questions? Have you got 2 profiles on here? Why would the government want to pass a bill that wasn’t necessary? What will it gain from this? Btw, I think the governments response to the crisis has been a shambles but I am struggling to find a reason for imposing an unnecessary lock down that has cost £100s billions What has a second fab profile got to do with any of this? Just curious. " Because you answered a question that wasn’t directed at you . | |||
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"There is a lot of focussing on the negative and no balance. So yea I think there is a lot of scare tactics going on Why dont they list the amount of survivors on a weekly basis for example x Because ‘survivors’ isnt an important figure. Its not that its scaremongering than it is reporting facts. Virus’ & diseases are almost always measured in a means by which we know how ‘deadly’ they are. By reporting how deadly the virus is you safeguard the populus by means of giving them relevent information. The converse of this would be to also report ‘survival’ figures - this is dangerous. The danger of reporting such figures leads to the populus not taking the virus seriously, not being vigilant & ultimately aiding in the spreading of the disease/virus. As a virus spreads & moves from host to host this enables it to firstly - encounter more of the general populus making it more deadly by virtue of infection more people & secondly - gives the virus a huge increase in ability to mutate as every host is a new chance for the virus to develop its own genetic code further. If that happens whilst people are being whimsical about the severity of the disease or virus, the virus then becomes more deadly in itself & by the time the populus can react proportionately the death toll has already risen considerably & the effort taken to find a vaccine/cure is also considerably more as mutations can render research to that point obsolete. In short - they arent telling you the survival rate because its dangerous to do so. A quick glance of the comments on this thread back that theory resoundingly." Adding survival figures and the number of people not having had covid19 would be a boost to most people's morale, this would also give a balanced view, rather than death all the time. We all need something to keep us feeling positive. | |||
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"Why, because the bill wouldn't have been granted And? Perhaps you need to expand on you one word questions? Have you got 2 profiles on here? Why would the government want to pass a bill that wasn’t necessary? What will it gain from this? Btw, I think the governments response to the crisis has been a shambles but I am struggling to find a reason for imposing an unnecessary lock down that has cost £100s billions What has a second fab profile got to do with any of this? Just curious. Because you answered a question that wasn’t directed at you .
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"Why, because the bill wouldn't have been granted And? Perhaps you need to expand on you one word questions? Have you got 2 profiles on here? Why would the government want to pass a bill that wasn’t necessary? What will it gain from this? Btw, I think the governments response to the crisis has been a shambles but I am struggling to find a reason for imposing an unnecessary lock down that has cost £100s billions " I too think the government has made a complete mess of this, but for precisely the opposite reason. By delaying on the lockdown they are responsible for tens of thousands of more deaths than would otherwise have occurred. By attempting to open it prematurely they will undoubtedly be responsible for thousands more. You can’t put a price on people’s lives. The economy will recover, the tragic waste of live will be forever with us. | |||
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"Why, because the bill wouldn't have been granted And? Perhaps you need to expand on you one word questions? Have you got 2 profiles on here? Why would the government want to pass a bill that wasn’t necessary? What will it gain from this? Btw, I think the governments response to the crisis has been a shambles but I am struggling to find a reason for imposing an unnecessary lock down that has cost £100s billions What has a second fab profile got to do with any of this? Just curious. Because you answered a question that wasn’t directed at you .
It's an open forum. I can reply to whomever I choose to. That's the beauty of a democracy.
Where did I say you couldn’t ? "Clearly you just like to make remarks just to try and goad people. Good luck with that... | |||
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"There is a lot of focussing on the negative and no balance. So yea I think there is a lot of scare tactics going on Why dont they list the amount of survivors on a weekly basis for example x Because ‘survivors’ isnt an important figure. Its not that its scaremongering than it is reporting facts. Virus’ & diseases are almost always measured in a means by which we know how ‘deadly’ they are. By reporting how deadly the virus is you safeguard the populus by means of giving them relevent information. The converse of this would be to also report ‘survival’ figures - this is dangerous. The danger of reporting such figures leads to the populus not taking the virus seriously, not being vigilant & ultimately aiding in the spreading of the disease/virus. As a virus spreads & moves from host to host this enables it to firstly - encounter more of the general populus making it more deadly by virtue of infection more people & secondly - gives the virus a huge increase in ability to mutate as every host is a new chance for the virus to develop its own genetic code further. If that happens whilst people are being whimsical about the severity of the disease or virus, the virus then becomes more deadly in itself & by the time the populus can react proportionately the death toll has already risen considerably & the effort taken to find a vaccine/cure is also considerably more as mutations can render research to that point obsolete. In short - they arent telling you the survival rate because its dangerous to do so. A quick glance of the comments on this thread back that theory resoundingly. Adding survival figures and the number of people not having had covid19 would be a boost to most people's morale, this would also give a balanced view, rather than death all the time. We all need something to keep us feeling positive. " Whilst that may be the case, sadly its a flase economy. I cant remember the name of the theory but it all stems back to human behaviour & how if youre told you cant do something - in this instance lockdown, one would generally obey that request, however, if the consequence from not obeying that was removed - in this instance “loads have survived, i’ll be fine”, you are far, far less likely to obey the initial command - the result - people ignore lockdown because the consequence is negligable & spread the disease at an exponential level resulting in more deaths & a real risk of a stronger, more deadly virus, keeping us in lockdown for a far longer & more sustained period of time. I doubt your morale would be doing much when a virus youve been asked not to spread turns into one youre emplored not to catch. | |||
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"Why, because the bill wouldn't have been granted And? Perhaps you need to expand on you one word questions? Have you got 2 profiles on here? Why would the government want to pass a bill that wasn’t necessary? What will it gain from this? Btw, I think the governments response to the crisis has been a shambles but I am struggling to find a reason for imposing an unnecessary lock down that has cost £100s billions What has a second fab profile got to do with any of this? Just curious. Because you answered a question that wasn’t directed at you .
It's an open forum. I can reply to whomever I choose to. That's the beauty of a democracy.
Where did I say you couldn’t ?
Clearly you just like to make remarks just to try and goad people. Good luck with that... "Thanks, just remember . It’s an open forum , I can reply to whom ever I choose to. That’s the beauty of democracy | |||
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"Why, because the bill wouldn't have been granted And? Perhaps you need to expand on you one word questions? Have you got 2 profiles on here? Why would the government want to pass a bill that wasn’t necessary? What will it gain from this? Btw, I think the governments response to the crisis has been a shambles but I am struggling to find a reason for imposing an unnecessary lock down that has cost £100s billions What has a second fab profile got to do with any of this? Just curious. Because you answered a question that wasn’t directed at you .
It's an open forum. I can reply to whomever I choose to. That's the beauty of a democracy.
Where did I say you couldn’t ?
Clearly you just like to make remarks just to try and goad people. Good luck with that...
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"Not enough scaremongering. Wish someone had scared the NHS into buying PPE for their staff... "This is extremely offensive to those in the NHS. A very deliberate decision to not provide enough PPE was made by Jeremy Hunt, the previous Secretary of State for Health. He was not employed by the NHS. | |||
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"Not enough scaremongering. Wish someone had scared the NHS into buying PPE for their staff...
This is extremely offensive to those in the NHS.
A very deliberate decision to not provide enough PPE was made by Jeremy Hunt, the previous Secretary of State for Health.
He was not employed by the NHS."No doubt you had a drawer of masks ready for the pandemic. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. | |||
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"How nany police officers have been reported of dying from Covid 19, they dobt social distance especially in their cars when stopping people to hand out fines " Police officers have been wearing PPE. So all this is scaremongering because police officers aren’t dying from COVID ? | |||
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"How nany police officers have been reported of dying from Covid 19, they dobt social distance especially in their cars when stopping people to hand out fines " For the last 90 days around 500 people a day (not including those in care homes) on average have been dying due to covid, I don't the think the names or status of 99% of them has been reported. | |||
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"Not enough scaremongering. Wish someone had scared the NHS into buying PPE for their staff...
This is extremely offensive to those in the NHS.
A very deliberate decision to not provide enough PPE was made by Jeremy Hunt, the previous Secretary of State for Health.
He was not employed by the NHS.
No doubt you had a drawer of masks ready for the pandemic. Hindsight is a wonderful thing."Not really the best defence in the world. | |||
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"I just want to say this - After reading through this thread & replying to some comments too, its abundently clear that Fab is full of idiots. Jesus wept." Tragically it's just a microcosm of society at large as opposed to just fab | |||
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"Agreed if you got some form of brain an your some sort of free thinker then this wont seem right to you. Control control an more control they took a giant leap in the direction they want to go mass vaccination etc " What do you mean? | |||
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"I just want to say this - After reading through this thread & replying to some comments too, its abundently clear that Fab is full of idiots. Jesus wept. Tragically it's just a microcosm of society at large as opposed to just fab " It really makes you wonder. People who earn in a year what their bosses earn in a day/week/hour defending capitalism at the cost of lives, calling a global pandemic a hoax because they simply dont know someone with it & asking the media to only report the facts they want to hear. The whole thing has me utterly bewildered. Humanity is doomed. | |||
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"Agreed if you got some form of brain an your some sort of free thinker then this wont seem right to you. Control control an more control they took a giant leap in the direction they want to go mass vaccination etc What do you mean? " I think... I think he’s trying to say this is se sort of government created virus in order to control the populus & to vaccinate them?! Someone needs to remind me why not dying of things like Polio is in fact a bad thing. | |||
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"All on the say so of a microsoft boss who has no medical qualifications, and has admitted he wants to depopulate the globe" Get your tin foil hats on. | |||
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"All on the say so of a microsoft boss who has no medical qualifications, and has admitted he wants to depopulate the globe" I’m assuming you mean multi-billionaire & biggest philanthropist in the world Bill Gates? That’ll be Bill Gates who has given over $36bn to charity. The same Bill Gates that has given over $10bn to infectious disease control, HIV/AIDS research, TB & malaria control? Just because, you know, all those things dont match up with a man who wanta a virus to destroy the world. Idiot. | |||
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"All on the say so of a microsoft boss who has no medical qualifications, and has admitted he wants to depopulate the globe" Evidence please?  | |||
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"All on the say so of a microsoft boss who has no medical qualifications, and has admitted he wants to depopulate the globe Get your tin foil hats on. "Apparently a man who has invested over $10bn into various infection & disease controls wanta a virus to wipe out half the worlds populus. Only on Fab! | |||
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"All on the say so of a microsoft boss who has no medical qualifications, and has admitted he wants to depopulate the globe Evidence please? "Ive got plenty of evidence to support the complete opposite of this, so im quietly confident we’re on the right side here | |||
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"Agreed if you got some form of brain an your some sort of free thinker then this wont seem right to you. Control control an more control they took a giant leap in the direction they want to go mass vaccination etc What do you mean? I think... I think he’s trying to say this is se sort of government created virus in order to control the populus & to vaccinate them?! Someone needs to remind me why not dying of things like Polio is in fact a bad thing." Indeed. Let’s create a virus that will cripple the economy worldwide in order to vaccinate the population with some sort of mind controlling drug. It’s a good story | |||
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"Agreed if you got some form of brain an your some sort of free thinker then this wont seem right to you. Control control an more control they took a giant leap in the direction they want to go mass vaccination etc " Well 'they' didn't do too well since the virus nearly killed one of them (Boris Johnson) and infected several of his colleagues..unless of course the 'they' you refer to are beings from another planet! | |||
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"All on the say so of a microsoft boss who has no medical qualifications, and has admitted he wants to depopulate the globe Evidence please? "It's all out there...it seems a bit strange in how he has got so involved in this. I could post a link but it may not be allowed try google "pandemic 1 back online again" | |||
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"Till people you know start to die. Our friend works on a covid ward and so far there’s been a minimum of two covid deaths each time she’s worked. It makes it all quite real.... You've got to take that in perspective of the amount of people who die each day that isn't covid related, we don't hear about them in the news every day, so we don't know & it doesn't affect us unless you know them. People murdered, killed in accidents, cancer deaths, suicides, old age, heart attacks and the rest. More people survive than die of covid-19 also and a vaccine may never be found. " Be more wary of the "vaccine" | |||
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