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"...and dont be surprised if Tim Martin has Wetherspoons ready to rock n roll as a restaurant from July.. Yes the class system still exists, surely this doesn't suprise you??" Looks like he wasn't that far off in his planning for being able to reopen end of June. One business that will be well prepared and ready to roll  | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use." The one good thing about the Tories is they have never pretended to be something they aren't. They will always look after their own, they have never pretended to give a toss about normal people and they never will. Yet for some reason you get working class people doffing their caps to them and doing as they are told. There is nothing more tragic than a working class Tory. | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use. The one good thing about the Tories is they have never pretended to be something they aren't. They will always look after their own, they have never pretended to give a toss about normal people and they never will. Yet for some reason you get working class people doffing their caps to them and doing as they are told. There is nothing more tragic than a working class Tory." I blame Labour for that happening | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use. The one good thing about the Tories is they have never pretended to be something they aren't. They will always look after their own, they have never pretended to give a toss about normal people and they never will. Yet for some reason you get working class people doffing their caps to them and doing as they are told. There is nothing more tragic than a working class Tory. I blame Labour for that happening" Can you elaborate on that? | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use. The one good thing about the Tories is they have never pretended to be something they aren't. They will always look after their own, they have never pretended to give a toss about normal people and they never will. Yet for some reason you get working class people doffing their caps to them and doing as they are told. There is nothing more tragic than a working class Tory. I blame Labour for that happening Can you elaborate on that? " Everything the government does wrong is Labours fault. You mustn't have got the memo. | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use. The one good thing about the Tories is they have never pretended to be something they aren't. They will always look after their own, they have never pretended to give a toss about normal people and they never will. Yet for some reason you get working class people doffing their caps to them and doing as they are told. There is nothing more tragic than a working class Tory."   | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use." you do realise many people use cleaners not just the rich. And I know a few people who are working tooth and nail to be able to open their restaurants as soon as they see open so they dont go under. How is that looking after their own. Places need to open. I know many disabled people who will welcome the cleaners being able to come again | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use. The one good thing about the Tories is they have never pretended to be something they aren't. They will always look after their own, they have never pretended to give a toss about normal people and they never will. Yet for some reason you get working class people doffing their caps to them and doing as they are told. There is nothing more tragic than a working class Tory." | |||
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"...and dont be surprised if Tim Martin has Wetherspoons ready to rock n roll as a restaurant from July.. Yes the class system still exists, surely this doesn't suprise you??" Can’t see his model will work , he trades on thru-put not high margin, these low end businesses will struggle | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use. The one good thing about the Tories is they have never pretended to be something they aren't. They will always look after their own, they have never pretended to give a toss about normal people and they never will. Yet for some reason you get working class people doffing their caps to them and doing as they are told. There is nothing more tragic than a working class Tory." Not just tragic. | |||
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"The one good thing about the Tories is they have never pretended to be something they aren't. They will always look after their own, they have never pretended to give a toss about normal people and they never will. Yet for some reason you get working class people doffing their caps to them and doing as they are told. There is nothing more tragic than a working class Tory." “How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics in the 20th century.” Aneurin Bevan | |||
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"...and dont be surprised if Tim Martin has Wetherspoons ready to rock n roll as a restaurant from July.. Yes the class system still exists, surely this doesn't suprise you?? Can’t see his model will work , he trades on thru-put not high margin, these low end businesses will struggle " British public love a cheap pint | |||
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"...and dont be surprised if Tim Martin has Wetherspoons ready to rock n roll as a restaurant from July.. Yes the class system still exists, surely this doesn't suprise you?? Can’t see his model will work , he trades on thru-put not high margin, these low end businesses will struggle " Yep Who has the money to spend in these pubs/restaurants. Not everybody has worked these passed weeks... | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use. The one good thing about the Tories is they have never pretended to be something they aren't. They will always look after their own, they have never pretended to give a toss about normal people and they never will. Yet for some reason you get working class people doffing their caps to them and doing as they are told. There is nothing more tragic than a working class Tory." I dont agree with that , I’ve always voted Tory until last election and am from a working class background. Many Tory MPs are decent people who wants people with aspirations and work ethic to progress and benefit regardless of background. But this current one, he’s a vile and incompetent individual who cannot be trusted . As someone said on here recently, Boris is exactly what a thick person thinks a clever person is like , that’s his appeal to many, they think he knows what he’s doing. | |||
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"...and dont be surprised if Tim Martin has Wetherspoons ready to rock n roll as a restaurant from July.. Yes the class system still exists, surely this doesn't suprise you?? Can’t see his model will work , he trades on thru-put not high margin, these low end businesses will struggle British public love a cheap pint " The restrictions on distancing will make it very hard to make a profit , unless you are a swanky spacious large restaurant, private rooms etc and operate a low volume/high margin business model - think places like World Service might open. | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use. The one good thing about the Tories is they have never pretended to be something they aren't. They will always look after their own, they have never pretended to give a toss about normal people and they never will. Yet for some reason you get working class people doffing their caps to them and doing as they are told. There is nothing more tragic than a working class Tory. I dont agree with that , I’ve always voted Tory until last election and am from a working class background. Many Tory MPs are decent people who wants people with aspirations and work ethic to progress and benefit regardless of background. But this current one, he’s a vile and incompetent individual who cannot be trusted . As someone said on here recently, Boris is exactly what a thick person thinks a clever person is like , that’s his appeal to many, they think he knows what he’s doing." There's absolutely no reason to vote Tory unless you're earning £100k+ and if you are earning that much then you aren't working class you are in the top 4% of earners. | |||
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"Apart from the lack of testing and PPE which was a total disaster. What would you all do different then? This thread seems to be about how he’s easing the lockdown. What should he do?" To be fair the tests and things needed are not made in the UK. You also can't just get millions of pieces of PPE shipped overnight and arriving the next day from across the world. Even more so when all counties in the world have a shortage of tests and PPE except for where they already have the materials and factories already set up. Can't just click your fingers and everything is here overnight. Supply chains are complex. | |||
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"Apart from the lack of testing and PPE which was a total disaster. What would you all do different then? This thread seems to be about how he’s easing the lockdown. What should he do? To be fair the tests and things needed are not made in the UK. You also can't just get millions of pieces of PPE shipped overnight and arriving the next day from across the world. Even more so when all counties in the world have a shortage of tests and PPE except for where they already have the materials and factories already set up. Can't just click your fingers and everything is here overnight. Supply chains are complex. " Could've accepted those from the EU then. | |||
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"Apart from the lack of testing and PPE which was a total disaster. What would you all do different then? This thread seems to be about how he’s easing the lockdown. What should he do? To be fair the tests and things needed are not made in the UK. You also can't just get millions of pieces of PPE shipped overnight and arriving the next day from across the world. Even more so when all counties in the world have a shortage of tests and PPE except for where they already have the materials and factories already set up. Can't just click your fingers and everything is here overnight. Supply chains are complex. Could've accepted those from the EU then. " Has the eu scheme supplied anything yet? Last report I saw reported it had provided zero PPE items | |||
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"Apart from the lack of testing and PPE which was a total disaster. What would you all do different then? This thread seems to be about how he’s easing the lockdown. What should he do? To be fair the tests and things needed are not made in the UK. You also can't just get millions of pieces of PPE shipped overnight and arriving the next day from across the world. Even more so when all counties in the world have a shortage of tests and PPE except for where they already have the materials and factories already set up. Can't just click your fingers and everything is here overnight. Supply chains are complex. " I don't think anyone would disagree about the complexity of supply chains but if you start buying earlier then you get deliveries earlier. A lot of the issue with the government was the lying and obfuscation. Including paper towels and disinfectant in the PPE figures, counting single gloves rather than a pair, saying that there isn't a problem when nurses and doctors all over the country are begging for PPE. Reducing the required PPE level because of unavailability rather than science. Had the government come out and said "We made a mistake, we should've started restrictions and ordered PPE earlier" then I would cut them some slack but no, they decided to lie, and lie some more, and then start saying that doctors and nurses were lying. They have been a shambles from the start and they haven't learned a thing. | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use. The one good thing about the Tories is they have never pretended to be something they aren't. They will always look after their own, they have never pretended to give a toss about normal people and they never will. Yet for some reason you get working class people doffing their caps to them and doing as they are told. There is nothing more tragic than a working class Tory. I dont agree with that , I’ve always voted Tory until last election and am from a working class background. Many Tory MPs are decent people who wants people with aspirations and work ethic to progress and benefit regardless of background. But this current one, he’s a vile and incompetent individual who cannot be trusted . As someone said on here recently, Boris is exactly what a thick person thinks a clever person is like , that’s his appeal to many, they think he knows what he’s doing. There's absolutely no reason to vote Tory unless you're earning £100k+ and if you are earning that much then you aren't working class you are in the top 4% of earners." What a ridiculous statement yet so typical left wing. So all the people who voted them last time were earning 100k plus? I think not. Or are all those people stupid and naive? | |||
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"...and dont be surprised if Tim Martin has Wetherspoons ready to rock n roll as a restaurant from July.. Yes the class system still exists, surely this doesn't suprise you?? Can’t see his model will work , he trades on thru-put not high margin, these low end businesses will struggle British public love a cheap pint The restrictions on distancing will make it very hard to make a profit , unless you are a swanky spacious large restaurant, private rooms etc and operate a low volume/high margin business model - think places like World Service might open. " Cash-strapped folks are going to want to get out and feel they are getting good value for the money they do have to spend. Swanky, high ceilinged marble floored dining will not be their first choice. | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use. The one good thing about the Tories is they have never pretended to be something they aren't. They will always look after their own, they have never pretended to give a toss about normal people and they never will. Yet for some reason you get working class people doffing their caps to them and doing as they are told. There is nothing more tragic than a working class Tory. I dont agree with that , I’ve always voted Tory until last election and am from a working class background. Many Tory MPs are decent people who wants people with aspirations and work ethic to progress and benefit regardless of background. But this current one, he’s a vile and incompetent individual who cannot be trusted . As someone said on here recently, Boris is exactly what a thick person thinks a clever person is like , that’s his appeal to many, they think he knows what he’s doing. There's absolutely no reason to vote Tory unless you're earning £100k+ and if you are earning that much then you aren't working class you are in the top 4% of earners. What a ridiculous statement yet so typical left wing. So all the people who voted them last time were earning 100k plus? I think not. Or are all those people stupid and naive?" They got behind a moronic statement of no substance like " get Brexit done" from a man of obvious no substance I would call them a wee bit stupid and naive | |||
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"Apart from the lack of testing and PPE which was a total disaster. What would you all do different then? This thread seems to be about how he’s easing the lockdown. What should he do? To be fair the tests and things needed are not made in the UK. You also can't just get millions of pieces of PPE shipped overnight and arriving the next day from across the world. Even more so when all counties in the world have a shortage of tests and PPE except for where they already have the materials and factories already set up. Can't just click your fingers and everything is here overnight. Supply chains are complex. I don't think anyone would disagree about the complexity of supply chains but if you start buying earlier then you get deliveries earlier. A lot of the issue with the government was the lying and obfuscation. Including paper towels and disinfectant in the PPE figures, counting single gloves rather than a pair, saying that there isn't a problem when nurses and doctors all over the country are begging for PPE. Reducing the required PPE level because of unavailability rather than science. Had the government come out and said "We made a mistake, we should've started restrictions and ordered PPE earlier" then I would cut them some slack but no, they decided to lie, and lie some more, and then start saying that doctors and nurses were lying. They have been a shambles from the start and they haven't learned a thing." Keep saying this the government fund the NHS, the NHS procurement source and purchase and stock control the PPE, google NHS Supply Chain it tells you there from February their plan on PPE for Covid 19. Usually purchase from China but it takes 4 weeks for a shipment from China that’s normal conditions, they had lockdown to, then extra border controls to check for the virus, not taking into account every country was screaming for more PPE obviously there was going to be a shortage and delay in some countries. We didn’t just want a couple of packs we wanted tonnes of it. | |||
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"Ending lockdown isn't looking after the rich, they can stay in lockdown for year's to protect themselves. But the working class can't so need to end lockdown for the people not the rich. " The rich need the working class to work to keep them rich, you do realise that ? | |||
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"...and dont be surprised if Tim Martin has Wetherspoons ready to rock n roll as a restaurant from July.. Yes the class system still exists, surely this doesn't suprise you?? Can’t see his model will work , he trades on thru-put not high margin, these low end businesses will struggle British public love a cheap pint The restrictions on distancing will make it very hard to make a profit , unless you are a swanky spacious large restaurant, private rooms etc and operate a low volume/high margin business model - think places like World Service might open. Cash-strapped folks are going to want to get out and feel they are getting good value for the money they do have to spend. Swanky, high ceilinged marble floored dining will not be their first choice." If they are ‘cash strapped’ then they will be drinking and eating at home, a can of larger is far cheaper than a pint at a shitty Wetherspoons | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use." Disagree. Which article have you read this on? Or is it your interpretation of it? | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use. The one good thing about the Tories is they have never pretended to be something they aren't. They will always look after their own, they have never pretended to give a toss about normal people and they never will. Yet for some reason you get working class people doffing their caps to them and doing as they are told. There is nothing more tragic than a working class Tory. I dont agree with that , I’ve always voted Tory until last election and am from a working class background. Many Tory MPs are decent people who wants people with aspirations and work ethic to progress and benefit regardless of background. But this current one, he’s a vile and incompetent individual who cannot be trusted . As someone said on here recently, Boris is exactly what a thick person thinks a clever person is like , that’s his appeal to many, they think he knows what he’s doing. There's absolutely no reason to vote Tory unless you're earning £100k+ and if you are earning that much then you aren't working class you are in the top 4% of earners." That’s your opinion and you’re welcome to it but that doesn’t mean you’re right...or wrong for that matter. Personally I can’t see why anyone would vote Labour, unless they don’t work and have no intention of working. But that’s my opinion, and to a degree it’s as sensational as your claim...but it’s equally valid. | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use. The one good thing about the Tories is they have never pretended to be something they aren't. They will always look after their own, they have never pretended to give a toss about normal people and they never will. Yet for some reason you get working class people doffing their caps to them and doing as they are told. There is nothing more tragic than a working class Tory. I dont agree with that , I’ve always voted Tory until last election and am from a working class background. Many Tory MPs are decent people who wants people with aspirations and work ethic to progress and benefit regardless of background. But this current one, he’s a vile and incompetent individual who cannot be trusted . As someone said on here recently, Boris is exactly what a thick person thinks a clever person is like , that’s his appeal to many, they think he knows what he’s doing. There's absolutely no reason to vote Tory unless you're earning £100k+ and if you are earning that much then you aren't working class you are in the top 4% of earners. What a ridiculous statement yet so typical left wing. So all the people who voted them last time were earning 100k plus? I think not. Or are all those people stupid and naive? They got behind a moronic statement of no substance like " get Brexit done" from a man of obvious no substance I would call them a wee bit stupid and naive" | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use. The one good thing about the Tories is they have never pretended to be something they aren't. They will always look after their own, they have never pretended to give a toss about normal people and they never will. Yet for some reason you get working class people doffing their caps to them and doing as they are told. There is nothing more tragic than a working class Tory. I dont agree with that , I’ve always voted Tory until last election and am from a working class background. Many Tory MPs are decent people who wants people with aspirations and work ethic to progress and benefit regardless of background. But this current one, he’s a vile and incompetent individual who cannot be trusted . As someone said on here recently, Boris is exactly what a thick person thinks a clever person is like , that’s his appeal to many, they think he knows what he’s doing. There's absolutely no reason to vote Tory unless you're earning £100k+ and if you are earning that much then you aren't working class you are in the top 4% of earners. That’s your opinion and you’re welcome to it but that doesn’t mean you’re right...or wrong for that matter. Personally I can’t see why anyone would vote Labour, unless they don’t work and have no intention of working. But that’s my opinion, and to a degree it’s as sensational as your claim...but it’s equally valid. " Not every opinion is valid. Some are based on information, logic, experience. Others are based on Daily Mail headlines. | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use. The one good thing about the Tories is they have never pretended to be something they aren't. They will always look after their own, they have never pretended to give a toss about normal people and they never will. Yet for some reason you get working class people doffing their caps to them and doing as they are told. There is nothing more tragic than a working class Tory. I dont agree with that , I’ve always voted Tory until last election and am from a working class background. Many Tory MPs are decent people who wants people with aspirations and work ethic to progress and benefit regardless of background. But this current one, he’s a vile and incompetent individual who cannot be trusted . As someone said on here recently, Boris is exactly what a thick person thinks a clever person is like , that’s his appeal to many, they think he knows what he’s doing. There's absolutely no reason to vote Tory unless you're earning £100k+ and if you are earning that much then you aren't working class you are in the top 4% of earners. What a ridiculous statement yet so typical left wing. So all the people who voted them last time were earning 100k plus? I think not. Or are all those people stupid and naive? They got behind a moronic statement of no substance like " get Brexit done" from a man of obvious no substance I would call them a wee bit stupid and naive" I'd call the majority of them racist TBH. Not sure why people skirt round the fact that for a large proportion of the population the Brexit vote and subsequent vote for Boris was absolutely about getting rid of Johnny Foreigner and "making this country great again".  | |||
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"Or are all those people stupid and naive?" Stupid or naive, or gullible. Everyone has aspirations and those aspirations will often cause people to vote against their best interests' because sometimes it's hard to admit that you aren't ever going to be the £100k earning, Jaguar driving man or woman you aspire to be. If you want to move up in the world it's best to vote for the party that will improve the situation you are in, not the one that will improve the situation you would like to be in, one day... | |||
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"...and dont be surprised if Tim Martin has Wetherspoons ready to rock n roll as a restaurant from July.. Yes the class system still exists, surely this doesn't suprise you?? Can’t see his model will work , he trades on thru-put not high margin, these low end businesses will struggle British public love a cheap pint The restrictions on distancing will make it very hard to make a profit , unless you are a swanky spacious large restaurant, private rooms etc and operate a low volume/high margin business model - think places like World Service might open. Cash-strapped folks are going to want to get out and feel they are getting good value for the money they do have to spend. Swanky, high ceilinged marble floored dining will not be their first choice. If they are ‘cash strapped’ then they will be drinking and eating at home, a can of larger is far cheaper than a pint at a shitty Wetherspoons " Yup, and they've been doing that for the last 2 months and possibly longer . Folks want to be out | |||
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"Apart from the lack of testing and PPE which was a total disaster. What would you all do different then? This thread seems to be about how he’s easing the lockdown. What should he do? To be fair the tests and things needed are not made in the UK. You also can't just get millions of pieces of PPE shipped overnight and arriving the next day from across the world. Even more so when all counties in the world have a shortage of tests and PPE except for where they already have the materials and factories already set up. Can't just click your fingers and everything is here overnight. Supply chains are complex. I don't think anyone would disagree about the complexity of supply chains but if you start buying earlier then you get deliveries earlier. A lot of the issue with the government was the lying and obfuscation. Including paper towels and disinfectant in the PPE figures, counting single gloves rather than a pair, saying that there isn't a problem when nurses and doctors all over the country are begging for PPE. Reducing the required PPE level because of unavailability rather than science. Had the government come out and said "We made a mistake, we should've started restrictions and ordered PPE earlier" then I would cut them some slack but no, they decided to lie, and lie some more, and then start saying that doctors and nurses were lying. They have been a shambles from the start and they haven't learned a thing." I agree with the last sentence,but what's the alternative and why isn't it a winner? I bet if we had a general election tomorrow BJ would coast in..  | |||
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"That’s your opinion and you’re welcome to it but that doesn’t mean you’re right...or wrong for that matter. Personally I can’t see why anyone would vote Labour, unless they don’t work and have no intention of working. But that’s my opinion, and to a degree it’s as sensational as your claim...but it’s equally valid. " Oddly I've always worked, well I had two weeks after university before I started a job but aside from that I've always worked. I earn a bit more than the average wage but not much, (I earn a shed more than the modal wage though, which is the one we should all concerned about) and fortunately I've always been able to vote for the party which will benefit me personally, as well as the rest of society, the most. I've never voted Tory, because I have never earned close to the level it would take for their policies to benefit me personally, and if I ever did get to that level I'd have so much bloody money that I'd still vote for the party which would make it better for the majority because I could afford to pay a bit more tax to benefit those worse off than me. | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use. The one good thing about the Tories is they have never pretended to be something they aren't. They will always look after their own, they have never pretended to give a toss about normal people and they never will. Yet for some reason you get working class people doffing their caps to them and doing as they are told. There is nothing more tragic than a working class Tory. I dont agree with that , I’ve always voted Tory until last election and am from a working class background. Many Tory MPs are decent people who wants people with aspirations and work ethic to progress and benefit regardless of background. But this current one, he’s a vile and incompetent individual who cannot be trusted . As someone said on here recently, Boris is exactly what a thick person thinks a clever person is like , that’s his appeal to many, they think he knows what he’s doing. There's absolutely no reason to vote Tory unless you're earning £100k+ and if you are earning that much then you aren't working class you are in the top 4% of earners. What a ridiculous statement yet so typical left wing. So all the people who voted them last time were earning 100k plus? I think not. Or are all those people stupid and naive? They got behind a moronic statement of no substance like " get Brexit done" from a man of obvious no substance I would call them a wee bit stupid and naive" There’s a huge difference between smart tories and Bojo / Brexit supporters. £100k might sound a lot but it’s only £5k a Month after tax and pension, if you have a couple of kids at uni take a grand off for rent , a grand for car/mortgage , another for your middle class debt & student loans and what’s left ? your on less than a single mum of 4 on benefits. Someone I know , 4 kids, 3 dads, full mobility for w**d / alcohol/ fibromyalgia- £2,670 per month benefits. This is what labour does....it says pump out kids and let the working people pay for your addictions. | |||
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"...and dont be surprised if Tim Martin has Wetherspoons ready to rock n roll as a restaurant from July.. Yes the class system still exists, surely this doesn't suprise you?? Can’t see his model will work , he trades on thru-put not high margin, these low end businesses will struggle British public love a cheap pint The restrictions on distancing will make it very hard to make a profit , unless you are a swanky spacious large restaurant, private rooms etc and operate a low volume/high margin business model - think places like World Service might open. Cash-strapped folks are going to want to get out and feel they are getting good value for the money they do have to spend. Swanky, high ceilinged marble floored dining will not be their first choice. If they are ‘cash strapped’ then they will be drinking and eating at home, a can of larger is far cheaper than a pint at a shitty Wetherspoons Yup, and they've been doing that for the last 2 months and possibly longer . Folks want to be out At a Wetherspoons ‘restaurant’ ? Where you will only be able to go with people from your household ? You won’t be able to sit with friends due to social distancing ? Being served sub standard food by a person with a mask on? I very much doubt it, would you go to one? " I have, and would again. I don't think there will be a change in the consumers desire of VfM | |||
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"...and dont be surprised if Tim Martin has Wetherspoons ready to rock n roll as a restaurant from July.. Yes the class system still exists, surely this doesn't suprise you?? Can’t see his model will work , he trades on thru-put not high margin, these low end businesses will struggle British public love a cheap pint The restrictions on distancing will make it very hard to make a profit , unless you are a swanky spacious large restaurant, private rooms etc and operate a low volume/high margin business model - think places like World Service might open. Cash-strapped folks are going to want to get out and feel they are getting good value for the money they do have to spend. Swanky, high ceilinged marble floored dining will not be their first choice. If they are ‘cash strapped’ then they will be drinking and eating at home, a can of larger is far cheaper than a pint at a shitty Wetherspoons Yup, and they've been doing that for the last 2 months and possibly longer . Folks want to be out At a Wetherspoons ‘restaurant’ ? Where you will only be able to go with people from your household ? You won’t be able to sit with friends due to social distancing ? Being served sub standard food by a person with a mask on? I very much doubt it, would you go to one? I have, and would again. I don't think there will be a change in the consumers desire of VfM" The desires will have to change, if Wetherspoons re opens in July it will be subject to so many changes it will lose most of the reasons why people go . Which is to get pissed with friends on cheap booze usually before going to somewhere better afterwards. Only the desperate will go to a Wetherspoons ‘restaurant’ | |||
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"That’s your opinion and you’re welcome to it but that doesn’t mean you’re right...or wrong for that matter. Personally I can’t see why anyone would vote Labour, unless they don’t work and have no intention of working. But that’s my opinion, and to a degree it’s as sensational as your claim...but it’s equally valid. Oddly I've always worked, well I had two weeks after university before I started a job but aside from that I've always worked. I earn a bit more than the average wage but not much, (I earn a shed more than the modal wage though, which is the one we should all concerned about) and fortunately I've always been able to vote for the party which will benefit me personally, as well as the rest of society, the most. I've never voted Tory, because I have never earned close to the level it would take for their policies to benefit me personally, and if I ever did get to that level I'd have so much bloody money that I'd still vote for the party which would make it better for the majority because I could afford to pay a bit more tax to benefit those worse off than me." Which is your interpretation of the bigger picture, and therefore forms your opinion. I have to issue with that at all. I on the other hand have never earned £100k but would rather vote for a party that has a better track record of facilitating a healthy economy - thereby ensuring better public services, education, health and national security amongst other things important to me. Ultimately the majority of the electorate want very similar things from our government. As individuals we just have a different expectation of how that gets achieved...which is exactly what a democracy is. | |||
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That is the very insult thrown around by momentum that stopped me voting labour in the last election."It was meant as joke in response to the ‘snowflake’ comment, if you didn’t vote labour because if the term ‘gammon’ then your obviously a very sensitive person | |||
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"...and dont be surprised if Tim Martin has Wetherspoons ready to rock n roll as a restaurant from July.. Yes the class system still exists, surely this doesn't suprise you?? Can’t see his model will work , he trades on thru-put not high margin, these low end businesses will struggle British public love a cheap pint The restrictions on distancing will make it very hard to make a profit , unless you are a swanky spacious large restaurant, private rooms etc and operate a low volume/high margin business model - think places like World Service might open. Cash-strapped folks are going to want to get out and feel they are getting good value for the money they do have to spend. Swanky, high ceilinged marble floored dining will not be their first choice. If they are ‘cash strapped’ then they will be drinking and eating at home, a can of larger is far cheaper than a pint at a shitty Wetherspoons Yup, and they've been doing that for the last 2 months and possibly longer . Folks want to be out At a Wetherspoons ‘restaurant’ ? Where you will only be able to go with people from your household ? You won’t be able to sit with friends due to social distancing ? Being served sub standard food by a person with a mask on? I very much doubt it, would you go to one? I have, and would again. I don't think there will be a change in the consumers desire of VfM The desires will have to change, if Wetherspoons re opens in July it will be subject to so many changes it will lose most of the reasons why people go . Which is to get pissed with friends on cheap booze usually before going to somewhere better afterwards. Only the desperate will go to a Wetherspoons ‘restaurant’ " I think the British consumer is savvy enough to know how to spend their cash. | |||
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"...and dont be surprised if Tim Martin has Wetherspoons ready to rock n roll as a restaurant from July.. Yes the class system still exists, surely this doesn't suprise you?? Can’t see his model will work , he trades on thru-put not high margin, these low end businesses will struggle British public love a cheap pint The restrictions on distancing will make it very hard to make a profit , unless you are a swanky spacious large restaurant, private rooms etc and operate a low volume/high margin business model - think places like World Service might open. Cash-strapped folks are going to want to get out and feel they are getting good value for the money they do have to spend. Swanky, high ceilinged marble floored dining will not be their first choice. If they are ‘cash strapped’ then they will be drinking and eating at home, a can of larger is far cheaper than a pint at a shitty Wetherspoons Yup, and they've been doing that for the last 2 months and possibly longer . Folks want to be out At a Wetherspoons ‘restaurant’ ? Where you will only be able to go with people from your household ? You won’t be able to sit with friends due to social distancing ? Being served sub standard food by a person with a mask on? I very much doubt it, would you go to one? I have, and would again. I don't think there will be a change in the consumers desire of VfM The desires will have to change, if Wetherspoons re opens in July it will be subject to so many changes it will lose most of the reasons why people go . Which is to get pissed with friends on cheap booze usually before going to somewhere better afterwards. Only the desperate will go to a Wetherspoons ‘restaurant’ I think the British consumer is savvy enough to know how to spend their cash." Exactly, this is the reason why the Wetherspoons ‘restaurant’ idea won’t work, Tim Martin need to wind his neck in and act like all the other pub and bar owners in the country | |||
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That is the very insult thrown around by momentum that stopped me voting labour in the last election.
It was meant as joke in response to the ‘snowflake’ comment, if you didn’t vote labour because if the term ‘gammon’ then your obviously a very sensitive person "Well plus Corbyn,Abbott and the fact that they abandoned their traditional voting base to chase the middle class London vote. Because everyone knows us northerners are thick racists who dont know what we are voting for. | |||
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That is the very insult thrown around by momentum that stopped me voting labour in the last election.
It was meant as joke in response to the ‘snowflake’ comment, if you didn’t vote labour because if the term ‘gammon’ then your obviously a very sensitive person "We're going to need more insults for each other. If the gammon are also snowflakes I don't know who is who any more! | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use. The one good thing about the Tories is they have never pretended to be something they aren't. They will always look after their own, they have never pretended to give a toss about normal people and they never will. Yet for some reason you get working class people doffing their caps to them and doing as they are told. There is nothing more tragic than a working class Tory. I dont agree with that , I’ve always voted Tory until last election and am from a working class background. Many Tory MPs are decent people who wants people with aspirations and work ethic to progress and benefit regardless of background. But this current one, he’s a vile and incompetent individual who cannot be trusted . As someone said on here recently, Boris is exactly what a thick person thinks a clever person is like , that’s his appeal to many, they think he knows what he’s doing. There's absolutely no reason to vote Tory unless you're earning £100k+ and if you are earning that much then you aren't working class you are in the top 4% of earners. What a ridiculous statement yet so typical left wing. So all the people who voted them last time were earning 100k plus? I think not. Or are all those people stupid and naive? They got behind a moronic statement of no substance like " get Brexit done" from a man of obvious no substance I would call them a wee bit stupid and naive There’s a huge difference between smart tories and Bojo / Brexit supporters. £100k might sound a lot but it’s only £5k a Month after tax and pension, if you have a couple of kids at uni take a grand off for rent , a grand for car/mortgage , another for your middle class debt & student loans and what’s left ? your on less than a single mum of 4 on benefits. Someone I know , 4 kids, 3 dads, full mobility for w**d / alcohol/ fibromyalgia- £2,670 per month benefits. This is what labour does....it says pump out kids and let the working people pay for your addictions." If your earning 100k and haven't learnt basic budgeting or are paying someone to help you... You won't be earning £100k for long. You are also comparing £2.5k to £5k it's literally double the amount. That is not considering the 20-5% ni and tax Or the 7-15%pension contribution I'm not saying there are not benefit cheats or that it's right There is a lot of rhetoric but when yiu look at its mighty castles built on sand. Thats exactly the the problem not only with bojo but all the opposition parties.... Its all talk It's going to take radical but credible party change to force a new political sea change. Like (new Labour) was in the 90s. Otherwise its same old same old wether you vote red or blue | |||
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"...and dont be surprised if Tim Martin has Wetherspoons ready to rock n roll as a restaurant from July.. Yes the class system still exists, surely this doesn't suprise you?? Can’t see his model will work , he trades on thru-put not high margin, these low end businesses will struggle British public love a cheap pint The restrictions on distancing will make it very hard to make a profit , unless you are a swanky spacious large restaurant, private rooms etc and operate a low volume/high margin business model - think places like World Service might open. Cash-strapped folks are going to want to get out and feel they are getting good value for the money they do have to spend. Swanky, high ceilinged marble floored dining will not be their first choice. If they are ‘cash strapped’ then they will be drinking and eating at home, a can of larger is far cheaper than a pint at a shitty Wetherspoons Yup, and they've been doing that for the last 2 months and possibly longer . Folks want to be out At a Wetherspoons ‘restaurant’ ? Where you will only be able to go with people from your household ? You won’t be able to sit with friends due to social distancing ? Being served sub standard food by a person with a mask on? I very much doubt it, would you go to one? I have, and would again. I don't think there will be a change in the consumers desire of VfM The desires will have to change, if Wetherspoons re opens in July it will be subject to so many changes it will lose most of the reasons why people go . Which is to get pissed with friends on cheap booze usually before going to somewhere better afterwards. Only the desperate will go to a Wetherspoons ‘restaurant’ I think the British consumer is savvy enough to know how to spend their cash. Exactly, this is the reason why the Wetherspoons ‘restaurant’ idea won’t work, Tim Martin need to wind his neck in and act like all the other pub and bar owners in the country " I'm sure they already have their finger on the pulse of the consumer | |||
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"...and dont be surprised if Tim Martin has Wetherspoons ready to rock n roll as a restaurant from July.. Yes the class system still exists, surely this doesn't suprise you?? Can’t see his model will work , he trades on thru-put not high margin, these low end businesses will struggle British public love a cheap pint The restrictions on distancing will make it very hard to make a profit , unless you are a swanky spacious large restaurant, private rooms etc and operate a low volume/high margin business model - think places like World Service might open. Cash-strapped folks are going to want to get out and feel they are getting good value for the money they do have to spend. Swanky, high ceilinged marble floored dining will not be their first choice. If they are ‘cash strapped’ then they will be drinking and eating at home, a can of larger is far cheaper than a pint at a shitty Wetherspoons Yup, and they've been doing that for the last 2 months and possibly longer . Folks want to be out At a Wetherspoons ‘restaurant’ ? Where you will only be able to go with people from your household ? You won’t be able to sit with friends due to social distancing ? Being served sub standard food by a person with a mask on? I very much doubt it, would you go to one? I have, and would again. I don't think there will be a change in the consumers desire of VfM The desires will have to change, if Wetherspoons re opens in July it will be subject to so many changes it will lose most of the reasons why people go . Which is to get pissed with friends on cheap booze usually before going to somewhere better afterwards. Only the desperate will go to a Wetherspoons ‘restaurant’ I think the British consumer is savvy enough to know how to spend their cash. Exactly, this is the reason why the Wetherspoons ‘restaurant’ idea won’t work, Tim Martin need to wind his neck in and act like all the other pub and bar owners in the country I'm sure they already have their finger on the pulse of the consumer "Are you Tim Martins pr officer? Or is that his dick on your profile you are bout to ride. You talk about him in every post. We get it... you are gagging for cheap pint and plate of soggy microwave cheap at you local | |||
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"...and dont be surprised if Tim Martin has Wetherspoons ready to rock n roll as a restaurant from July.. Yes the class system still exists, surely this doesn't suprise you?? Can’t see his model will work , he trades on thru-put not high margin, these low end businesses will struggle British public love a cheap pint The restrictions on distancing will make it very hard to make a profit , unless you are a swanky spacious large restaurant, private rooms etc and operate a low volume/high margin business model - think places like World Service might open. Cash-strapped folks are going to want to get out and feel they are getting good value for the money they do have to spend. Swanky, high ceilinged marble floored dining will not be their first choice. If they are ‘cash strapped’ then they will be drinking and eating at home, a can of larger is far cheaper than a pint at a shitty Wetherspoons Yup, and they've been doing that for the last 2 months and possibly longer . Folks want to be out At a Wetherspoons ‘restaurant’ ? Where you will only be able to go with people from your household ? You won’t be able to sit with friends due to social distancing ? Being served sub standard food by a person with a mask on? I very much doubt it, would you go to one? I have, and would again. I don't think there will be a change in the consumers desire of VfM The desires will have to change, if Wetherspoons re opens in July it will be subject to so many changes it will lose most of the reasons why people go . Which is to get pissed with friends on cheap booze usually before going to somewhere better afterwards. Only the desperate will go to a Wetherspoons ‘restaurant’ " Its a massive IF... NOT sure if you've realised, but the past few weeks nobody has worked, not many of those who frequent that establishment, have the money to spend. Those that have a little spare cash, will sit with a pint for three hours. I just can't see any pub/restaurants opening this side of Summer. | |||
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"...and dont be surprised if Tim Martin has Wetherspoons ready to rock n roll as a restaurant from July.. Yes the class system still exists, surely this doesn't suprise you?? Can’t see his model will work , he trades on thru-put not high margin, these low end businesses will struggle British public love a cheap pint The restrictions on distancing will make it very hard to make a profit , unless you are a swanky spacious large restaurant, private rooms etc and operate a low volume/high margin business model - think places like World Service might open. Cash-strapped folks are going to want to get out and feel they are getting good value for the money they do have to spend. Swanky, high ceilinged marble floored dining will not be their first choice. If they are ‘cash strapped’ then they will be drinking and eating at home, a can of larger is far cheaper than a pint at a shitty Wetherspoons Yup, and they've been doing that for the last 2 months and possibly longer . Folks want to be out At a Wetherspoons ‘restaurant’ ? Where you will only be able to go with people from your household ? You won’t be able to sit with friends due to social distancing ? Being served sub standard food by a person with a mask on? I very much doubt it, would you go to one? I have, and would again. I don't think there will be a change in the consumers desire of VfM The desires will have to change, if Wetherspoons re opens in July it will be subject to so many changes it will lose most of the reasons why people go . Which is to get pissed with friends on cheap booze usually before going to somewhere better afterwards. Only the desperate will go to a Wetherspoons ‘restaurant’ I think the British consumer is savvy enough to know how to spend their cash. Exactly, this is the reason why the Wetherspoons ‘restaurant’ idea won’t work, Tim Martin need to wind his neck in and act like all the other pub and bar owners in the country I'm sure they already have their finger on the pulse of the consumer
Are you Tim Martins pr officer?
Or is that his dick on your profile you are bout to ride.
You talk about him in every post.
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"Some very bitter snowflakes Some very silly gammon
That is the very insult thrown around by momentum that stopped me voting labour in the last election.
It was meant as joke in response to the ‘snowflake’ comment, if you didn’t vote labour because if the term ‘gammon’ then your obviously a very sensitive person
Well plus Corbyn,Abbott and the fact that they abandoned their traditional voting base to chase the middle class London vote.
Because everyone knows us northerners are thick racists who dont know what we are voting for.
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"Some very bitter snowflakes Some very silly gammon
That is the very insult thrown around by momentum that stopped me voting labour in the last election.
It was meant as joke in response to the ‘snowflake’ comment, if you didn’t vote labour because if the term ‘gammon’ then your obviously a very sensitive person
Well plus Corbyn,Abbott and the fact that they abandoned their traditional voting base to chase the middle class London vote.
Because everyone knows us northerners are thick racists who dont know what we are voting for.
Ah, so you voted Tory to ‘get Brexit done’ ??"I voted for no party in the end. But thanks for proving my point. | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use. The one good thing about the Tories is they have never pretended to be something they aren't. They will always look after their own, they have never pretended to give a toss about normal people and they never will. Yet for some reason you get working class people doffing their caps to them and doing as they are told. There is nothing more tragic than a working class Tory. I dont agree with that , I’ve always voted Tory until last election and am from a working class background. Many Tory MPs are decent people who wants people with aspirations and work ethic to progress and benefit regardless of background. But this current one, he’s a vile and incompetent individual who cannot be trusted . As someone said on here recently, Boris is exactly what a thick person thinks a clever person is like , that’s his appeal to many, they think he knows what he’s doing. There's absolutely no reason to vote Tory unless you're earning £100k+ and if you are earning that much then you aren't working class you are in the top 4% of earners. What a ridiculous statement yet so typical left wing. So all the people who voted them last time were earning 100k plus? I think not. Or are all those people stupid and naive? They got behind a moronic statement of no substance like " get Brexit done" from a man of obvious no substance I would call them a wee bit stupid and naive There’s a huge difference between smart tories and Bojo / Brexit supporters. £100k might sound a lot but it’s only £5k a Month after tax and pension, if you have a couple of kids at uni take a grand off for rent , a grand for car/mortgage , another for your middle class debt & student loans and what’s left ? your on less than a single mum of 4 on benefits. Someone I know , 4 kids, 3 dads, full mobility for w**d / alcohol/ fibromyalgia- £2,670 per month benefits. This is what labour does....it says pump out kids and let the working people pay for your addictions." You know that the Tories have been in power for the last decade don't you? Everyone knows someone who games the system but as of 2016 benefit fraud cost the tax payer £2 billion whereas HMRC's own figures say they failed to collect £34 billion they were due. I'm no fan of benefit fraud but it strikes me the government has us focusing on the wrong thing. £34 BILLION of tax not collected that was due, that's what the Tories do. You say £100k isn't a lot but I bet you wouldn't swap it for life on benefits. £100k is a vast amount of money, if you choose to spend that on an expensive car and house as well as putting 2 children through university then that's your choice but don't cry poverty when you are rich. | |||
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"Some very bitter snowflakes Some very silly gammon
That is the very insult thrown around by momentum that stopped me voting labour in the last election.
It was meant as joke in response to the ‘snowflake’ comment, if you didn’t vote labour because if the term ‘gammon’ then your obviously a very sensitive person
Well plus Corbyn,Abbott and the fact that they abandoned their traditional voting base to chase the middle class London vote.
Because everyone knows us northerners are thick racists who dont know what we are voting for.
Ah, so you voted Tory to ‘get Brexit done’ ??
I voted for no party in the end.
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"Some very bitter snowflakes Some very silly gammon
That is the very insult thrown around by momentum that stopped me voting labour in the last election.
It was meant as joke in response to the ‘snowflake’ comment, if you didn’t vote labour because if the term ‘gammon’ then your obviously a very sensitive person
Well plus Corbyn,Abbott and the fact that they abandoned their traditional voting base to chase the middle class London vote.
Because everyone knows us northerners are thick racists who dont know what we are voting for.
Ah, so you voted Tory to ‘get Brexit done’ ??
I voted for no party in the end.
But thanks for proving my point.
Shrewd, thanks for proving mine "which was ? | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use. The one good thing about the Tories is they have never pretended to be something they aren't. They will always look after their own, they have never pretended to give a toss about normal people and they never will. Yet for some reason you get working class people doffing their caps to them and doing as they are told. There is nothing more tragic than a working class Tory. I blame Labour for that happening Can you elaborate on that? Everything the government does wrong is Labours fault. You mustn't have got the memo." It's the poors' fault that they're uneducated and thus were unable to understand Sunday's extremely clear speech | |||
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"Some very bitter snowflakes Some very silly gammon
That is the very insult thrown around by momentum that stopped me voting labour in the last election.
It was meant as joke in response to the ‘snowflake’ comment, if you didn’t vote labour because if the term ‘gammon’ then your obviously a very sensitive person
Well plus Corbyn,Abbott and the fact that they abandoned their traditional voting base to chase the middle class London vote.
Because everyone knows us northerners are thick racists who dont know what we are voting for.
Ah, so you voted Tory to ‘get Brexit done’ ??
I voted for no party in the end.
But thanks for proving my point.
Shrewd, thanks for proving mine which was ?"You voted for leave and had the chance in the last GE to choose how , when or if ‘Brexit would be done’ , but you chose not to vote . Lets hope Boris can deliver the Brexit you wanted but didn’t vote for | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use. The one good thing about the Tories is they have never pretended to be something they aren't. They will always look after their own, they have never pretended to give a toss about normal people and they never will. Yet for some reason you get working class people doffing their caps to them and doing as they are told. There is nothing more tragic than a working class Tory. I dont agree with that , I’ve always voted Tory until last election and am from a working class background. Many Tory MPs are decent people who wants people with aspirations and work ethic to progress and benefit regardless of background. But this current one, he’s a vile and incompetent individual who cannot be trusted . As someone said on here recently, Boris is exactly what a thick person thinks a clever person is like , that’s his appeal to many, they think he knows what he’s doing. There's absolutely no reason to vote Tory unless you're earning £100k+ and if you are earning that much then you aren't working class you are in the top 4% of earners. What a ridiculous statement yet so typical left wing. So all the people who voted them last time were earning 100k plus? I think not. Or are all those people stupid and naive? They got behind a moronic statement of no substance like " get Brexit done" from a man of obvious no substance I would call them a wee bit stupid and naive There’s a huge difference between smart tories and Bojo / Brexit supporters. £100k might sound a lot but it’s only £5k a Month after tax and pension, if you have a couple of kids at uni take a grand off for rent , a grand for car/mortgage , another for your middle class debt & student loans and what’s left ? your on less than a single mum of 4 on benefits. Someone I know , 4 kids, 3 dads, full mobility for w**d / alcohol/ fibromyalgia- £2,670 per month benefits. This is what labour does....it says pump out kids and let the working people pay for your addictions. If your earning 100k and haven't learnt basic budgeting or are paying someone to help you... You won't be earning £100k for long. You are also comparing £2.5k to £5k it's literally double the amount. That is not considering the 20-5% ni and tax Or the 7-15%pension contribution I'm not saying there are not benefit cheats or that it's right There is a lot of rhetoric but when yiu look at its mighty castles built on sand. Thats exactly the the problem not only with bojo but all the opposition parties.... Its all talk It's going to take radical but credible party change to force a new political sea change. Like (new Labour) was in the 90s. Otherwise its same old same old wether you vote red or blue " It’s not to do with budgeting - it’s well known the middle class have the highest amount of debt - the poor don't access to cheap credit and the rich don’t need it and the costs rise with earnings, this won’t prevent you continuing to earn £100k at all, in fact it necessitates it, but you are right that poorer people often budget better , because of need and lack of cheap credit. If you read again (properly) you will see I’m Comparing £2k to £2670 and I am well aware of the levels in the UK (and most countries) of tax, NI, pension etc | |||
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"Some very bitter snowflakes Some very silly gammon
That is the very insult thrown around by momentum that stopped me voting labour in the last election.
It was meant as joke in response to the ‘snowflake’ comment, if you didn’t vote labour because if the term ‘gammon’ then your obviously a very sensitive person
Well plus Corbyn,Abbott and the fact that they abandoned their traditional voting base to chase the middle class London vote.
Because everyone knows us northerners are thick racists who dont know what we are voting for.
Ah, so you voted Tory to ‘get Brexit done’ ??
I voted for no party in the end.
But thanks for proving my point.
Shrewd, thanks for proving mine which was ?
You voted for leave and had the chance in the last GE to choose how , when or if ‘Brexit would be done’ , but you chose not to vote . Lets hope Boris can deliver the Brexit you wanted but didn’t vote for "You assume far to much. Who said I voted for brexit ? Again proving my point | |||
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"No surprise, starting to see subtle things coming out like cleaners are now allowed to visit your home and those restaurants that can put in place proper distancing from July, we know which they are, the private dining type places at £300 a head in London that already do this and can male a profit with 10 diners a night ... the ones that him and his friends already use." More hate cynical vitriol pathetic get a life | |||
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"More hate cynical vitriol pathetic get a life" Have you considered making a counterpoint rather than just attacking him? | |||
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"Some very bitter snowflakes Some very silly gammon
That is the very insult thrown around by momentum that stopped me voting labour in the last election.
It was meant as joke in response to the ‘snowflake’ comment, if you didn’t vote labour because if the term ‘gammon’ then your obviously a very sensitive person
Well plus Corbyn,Abbott and the fact that they abandoned their traditional voting base to chase the middle class London vote.
Because everyone knows us northerners are thick racists who dont know what we are voting for.
Ah, so you voted Tory to ‘get Brexit done’ ??
I voted for no party in the end.
But thanks for proving my point.
Shrewd, thanks for proving mine which was ?
You voted for leave and had the chance in the last GE to choose how , when or if ‘Brexit would be done’ , but you chose not to vote . Lets hope Boris can deliver the Brexit you wanted but didn’t vote for
You assume far to much.
Who said I voted for brexit ?
Again proving my point "You didn’t vote for Brexit ? you didn’t vote in the last GE? Why are you offended/upset by the term Gammon?  | |||
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"The far lefts insult for anyone that does not have exactly the same political views as them. Apart from my age I am nothing like gammon. Prime steak maybe "Who said you were a ‘gammon’?  | |||
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"The far lefts insult for anyone that does not have exactly the same political views as them. Apart from my age I am nothing like gammon. Prime steak maybe
Who said you were a ‘gammon’? "No one just read back on my post first about gammon. We are going around in circles so I will leave it there. | |||
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"The far lefts insult for anyone that does not have exactly the same political views as them. Apart from my age I am nothing like gammon. Prime steak maybe
Who said you were a ‘gammon’? No one just read back on my post first about gammon.
We are going around in circles so I will leave it there."I think we better had, you seem a bit confused, | |||
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"The far lefts insult for anyone that does not have exactly the same political views as them. Apart from my age I am nothing like gammon. Prime steak maybe
Who said you were a ‘gammon’? No one just read back on my post first about gammon.
We are going around in circles so I will leave it there.
I think we better had, you seem a bit confused, "No confusion here son. | |||
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