FabSwingers.com forum: How would you ease lockdown

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Lots of experts on here but seriously how would you guys ease the lockdown? It’s pretty obvious we have to live with Covid for months and that we also need to start getting back to work and living a life so what ideas do you have?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

Slowly for me

To anyone who answers, please keep to the question and not make it a political thread.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Slowly for me

To anyone who answers, please keep to the question and not make it a political thread.

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Thank you Ruby, I should have said that in my original post.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Slowly and in increments, with each increment of people tested and all positive cases track the traced.

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By *ary_ArgyllMan
over a year ago

Argyll

Looks like gradual relaxation but with mass testing plus contact tracing is the only viable way forward until a vaccine is developed and approved.

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By *ak777Man
over a year ago

shaw

keep the lock down for a least another 3 weeks see what happens ,better safe than sorry .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a very simple concept.

Those uninfected go to work.

Those infected and those in contact with imfected stay at home.

Knowing who is who requires tests. Lots of tests. We will get there and once we do we can take the next step.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"Lots of experts on here but seriously how would you guys ease the lockdown? It’s pretty obvious we have to live with Covid for months and that we also need to start getting back to work and living a life so what ideas do you have?"

My personal thoughts are to wait until the daily "new infections" are in single figures.

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By *ictoriaathomeTV/TS
over a year ago

Huddersfield

Got to be measured steps every time.

We need to identify where we need people back in work first, make the funding available to that sector to make adaptions to how work place operates and work carried out and then move forward.

Think a lot of thought needs to go to public transport and how that can be managed in a safe controlled way. After all people need to be able to travel to and from work.

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

Really not sure tbh.

Germany lifted restrictions a few days back and they have now reported the infection rate has now gone above one again.

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By *sbbwcoupleCouple
over a year ago

Worthing

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By *sbbwcoupleCouple
over a year ago

Worthing

"It's a very simple concept.

Those uninfected go to work.

Those infected and those in contact with imfected stay at home.

Knowing who is who requires tests. Lots of tests. We will get there and once we do we can take the next step."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would open all the beaches, all the restaurants, all the holiday parks tomorrow...... but only for me, with social distancing obviously

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By *ustfun 1984Man
over a year ago

exeter

"It's a very simple concept.

Those uninfected go to work.

Those infected and those in contact with imfected stay at home.

Knowing who is who requires tests. Lots of tests. We will get there and once we do we can take the next step."

With the people being asymptomatic how will this be controlled has don't show any symptoms to say they infected??

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By *utualpleasure42Man
over a year ago

enter location here

When deaths are down to single figures per day. At least.

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By *uttyjonnMan
over a year ago

SEA

It's not easy as they need to control the numbers on the streets and public transport etc

Maybe allow people living in non vulnerable households below a certain age threshold to start work again and then gradually release more people if it works

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By *ayo1000Man
over a year ago

liversedge

This is very complex and will take time

I work with the homeless who for the minute are housed up and down the country in hotels I'd like to get their take on what happens to them once this is over ???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Looks like gradual relaxation but with mass testing plus contact tracing is the only viable way forward until a vaccine is developed and approved."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's a very simple concept.

Those uninfected go to work.

Those infected and those in contact with imfected stay at home.

Knowing who is who requires tests. Lots of tests. We will get there and once we do we can take the next step.

With the people being asymptomatic how will this be controlled has don't show any symptoms to say they infected?? "

Firstly asymptomatic are the exception rather than the rule.

Secondly asymptomatic people still test positive.

It is not a foolproof system that catches every infected person. Just a system that prevents the exponential spread of the virus whilst carrying out a relatively normal existence.

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS
over a year ago

Notts

"It's not easy as they need to control the numbers on the streets and public transport etc

Maybe allow people living in non vulnerable households below a certain age threshold to start work again and then gradually release more people if it works

Like Spain id up the fine to £1000 so people actually stick to the rules! All the jobs where you don't need to meet people can carry on, limit the rest. Some of Europe has time zones for different age groups to limit numbers for exercise etc.

What I wouldn't do is let it back off the lead.... But I'm guessing the government can't keep paying benefits for ever and are getting worried... Think it's time to re evaluate the worlds wants.

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By *ustfun 1984Man
over a year ago

exeter

"It's a very simple concept.

Those uninfected go to work.

Those infected and those in contact with imfected stay at home.

Knowing who is who requires tests. Lots of tests. We will get there and once we do we can take the next step.

With the people being asymptomatic how will this be controlled has don't show any symptoms to say they infected??

Firstly asymptomatic are the exception rather than the rule.

Secondly asymptomatic people still test positive.

It is not a foolproof system that catches every infected person. Just a system that prevents the exponential spread of the virus whilst carrying out a relatively normal existence. "

Various studies claim anything from 25 to 75% can be asymptomatic ranging from BJM to WHO in differant countries so testing needs considerable ramping up

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By *dsindyTV/TS
over a year ago

East Lancashire

With testing, every day a test until an accurate viable antibody test is available, and then still by testing every single day.

Not a 100,000 per day, or 200,000 but millions. That's the only way people can be confident that they dont have the virus to pass on....in my opinion that is, feel free to disagree politely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Right now I wouldn't. We brought it in when the daily death rate was significantly lower than it is now so it makes no sense to end it until the daily death rate is much lower

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Copy the Germans they seem to know what they’re doing. The slight raise they have suffered and they have acted accordingly.

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS
over a year ago

Notts

"With testing, every day a test until an accurate viable antibody test is available, and then still by testing every single day.

Not a 100,000 per day, or 200,000 but millions. That's the only way people can be confident that they dont have the virus to pass on....in my opinion that is, feel free to disagree politely. "

Do think people could be tested and then stay in work place longer, solid week on solid week off, but like working on a boat or submarines!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's a very simple concept.

Those uninfected go to work.

Those infected and those in contact with imfected stay at home.

Knowing who is who requires tests. Lots of tests. We will get there and once we do we can take the next step.

With the people being asymptomatic how will this be controlled has don't show any symptoms to say they infected??

Firstly asymptomatic are the exception rather than the rule.

Secondly asymptomatic people still test positive.

It is not a foolproof system that catches every infected person. Just a system that prevents the exponential spread of the virus whilst carrying out a relatively normal existence.

Various studies claim anything from 25 to 75% can be asymptomatic ranging from BJM to WHO in differant countries so testing needs considerable ramping up "

I did some research on this one and the stat seems to vary considerably from region to region.

Thanks for that enlightenment

Appreciated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"With testing, every day a test until an accurate viable antibody test is available, and then still by testing every single day.

Not a 100,000 per day, or 200,000 but millions. That's the only way people can be confident that they dont have the virus to pass on....in my opinion that is, feel free to disagree politely.

Do think people could be tested and then stay in work place longer, solid week on solid week off, but like working on a boat or submarines! "

I have asked this question before. Does anyone know the window period between becoming infected and becoming infectious.

I read somewhere that there is a 'shedding' period when people are infectious.

Using a hypothetical example, if there was a three day window between the two one would only need to be tested every three days.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Here's a hypothetical.

Imagine you could test every single person in the UK at once. Impossible I know. But just to illustrate a point.

Then you could isolate the infected and the uninfected and in 14 days you would have eradicated the virus in the UK.

We need to get as close to that hypothetical impossibility as humanly possible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Here's a hypothetical.

Imagine you could test every single person in the UK at once. Impossible I know. But just to illustrate a point.

Then you could isolate the infected and the uninfected and in 14 days you would have eradicated the virus in the UK.

We need to get as close to that hypothetical impossibility as humanly possible. "

The problem is the virus can stay active for days on different surfaces so after being tested they could become infected.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Here's a hypothetical.

Imagine you could test every single person in the UK at once. Impossible I know. But just to illustrate a point.

Then you could isolate the infected and the uninfected and in 14 days you would have eradicated the virus in the UK.

We need to get as close to that hypothetical impossibility as humanly possible.

The problem is the virus can stay active for days on different surfaces so after being tested they could become infected."

I did some research on that one. It can stay active on some surfaces under lab conditions for days. In the real worl that's still an unknown I think.

But yes that's where we start talking about person to person infections and surface infections.

I was very happy to see that some superstores abandoned the coin in trollies until they got a disinfectant regime in place.

I would love to see us mitigating the risk of door handle infections by propping some fire doors open with the reasoning that they propably put more lives at risk than they save.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

"With testing, every day a test until an accurate viable antibody test is available, and then still by testing every single day.

Not a 100,000 per day, or 200,000 but millions. That's the only way people can be confident that they dont have the virus to pass on....in my opinion that is, feel free to disagree politely.

Do think people could be tested and then stay in work place longer, solid week on solid week off, but like working on a boat or submarines!

I have asked this question before. Does anyone know the window period between becoming infected and becoming infectious.

I read somewhere that there is a 'shedding' period when people are infectious.

Using a hypothetical example, if there was a three day window between the two one would only need to be tested every three days."

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