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"Well we've just looked out of our window at the VE street party. Everyone mixing together. What we can't believe is there are a couple of people who work in care homes mixing and keeping no social distance. So why do we have a break out of the virus in care homes?? Others in our street have not stayed in over the last few weeks either, perfect breeding ground we believe. We are safe behind our door" we have a break out in care homes because the government moved people with coronavirus from hospital to care homes | |||
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"Well we've just looked out of our window at the VE street party. Everyone mixing together. What we can't believe is there are a couple of people who work in care homes mixing and keeping no social distance. So why do we have a break out of the virus in care homes?? Others in our street have not stayed in over the last few weeks either, perfect breeding ground we believe. We are safe behind our doorwe have a break out in care homes because the government moved people with coronavirus from hospital to care homes " Very very true in our case. | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible!" I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() | |||
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"You can thank Boris"we are past the peak ...unlockdown" Johnson for that" To be fair he said (I watched PMQs) that he would discuss/reveal future plans on Sunday...Starmer been asking for this for weeks. Said very limited easing could start on Monday. Wales and Scotland already said more than one exercise is ok and looking at opening garden centres but other than that keep social distancing and stay in other than that already "allowed". Most of the mixed messages have come from usual press coverage and interpretation by "fabexperts". | |||
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"We are going to have one today. Markers set out for distancing and they are more that 2 metres. We are all pretty savvy here. Mostly staying on our drive way near the front door and have requested that no one enter our boundary Have fun and stay safe all" ![]() | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() True, to an extent. Remember, the twat went round shaking hands with Covid patients and told people not to go to the pub, but left them open. I await the Boris Brigade to jump on me again and explain why how he is doing such an amazing job ![]() ![]() | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() Yawn . Same old hatred. Another thread hijacked. | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() Sorry, I forgot. Don't criticise, don't ask questions. | |||
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"On every single thread you post in ?" Hey, if you don't like it... | |||
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"You can thank Boris"we are past the peak ...unlockdown" Johnson for that" Hard to argue with someone like you , that just talks Bollocks. | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() In fairness the mixed messages and hype from the media about the easing of lockdown has influenced people's behaviour. You're free to disagree of course. | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() Yawn heres another . Just waiting on the rest. | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() Sorry,we should all just think he is amazing. You carry on with blind adulation. I prefer to look at the evidence. | |||
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"You can thank Boris"we are past the peak ...unlockdown" Johnson for that Hard to argue with someone like you , that just talks Bollocks." Don't argue just clap ![]() | |||
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"Well we've just looked out of our window at the VE street party. Everyone mixing together. What we can't believe is there are a couple of people who work in care homes mixing and keeping no social distance. So why do we have a break out of the virus in care homes?? Others in our street have not stayed in over the last few weeks either, perfect breeding ground we believe. We are safe behind our door" Best stay there then | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() Does that mean you do, or don't agree? | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible!" Well we understand the message Stay at home, don't know how confusing that can be really? | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() I have no political allegiance. Where I praised anyone in the government. I voted labour all my life up until the war criminal. Then voted Tory. Then just stopped when I realised they were all the same. Politics bores me to death these days. You on the other hand have a hatred for anything Tory. It's not healthy to hate on something you cant do anything about. You choose the wrong horse in a 2 horse race. Its not the end of the world. Relax and breath . | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() I am not claiming anyone is amazing but honestly i think a greater portion of the population are swayed by the media than they are by the prime minister , and since the second lockdown started, the media have been obsessed with how and when it will end, they have been stoking the exact opposite message of stay home and the government have no control over and cannot take the blame for that | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! Well we understand the message Stay at home, don't know how confusing that can be really? " that might be what he says but that isn't the rule they are literally thousands of loopholes which the have not even tried to close | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() Sorry to disagree but the statement is not true to an extent its totally true. The shaking hands thing was stupid I agree but has nothing to do with this thread As ever the press try to seek out a story so take the quote and twist it. Then they will be the same people reporting on people not following the rules | |||
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"I wonder how people are gonna react to Sunday's message. I can see anger, there isn't gonna be much loosening. The infection rate is still pretty high." Again i think the media have a huge blame here, the government have never suggested we were getting much loosening From day 1 the media have been pushing and pushing and pushing for more information which gets peoples mindset into a place that this is / should be coming to an end and now they are outright false advertising the end of lockdown with their clickbait headlines | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() Not all the media,the usual suspects.. | |||
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"Well we've just looked out of our window at the VE street party. Everyone mixing together. What we can't believe is there are a couple of people who work in care homes mixing and keeping no social distance. So why do we have a break out of the virus in care homes?? Others in our street have not stayed in over the last few weeks either, perfect breeding ground we believe. We are safe behind our doorwe have a break out in care homes because the government moved people with coronavirus from hospital to care homes " We have a family member in a home nd he went to hospital for some tests back in March. He came back to the home and they put him in isolation which we said great, that's exactly what they should do and expected him to be in his room for 7 days. 2 days later they let him back in the social areas. Good job he didn't end up showing symptoms. The home got that wrong but fortunately got away with it. The homes stupidity not the government confusing the guidelines for them. | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() Who do you think briefed the media on what will be said on Sunday? | |||
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"I wonder how people are gonna react to Sunday's message. I can see anger, there isn't gonna be much loosening. The infection rate is still pretty high. Again i think the media have a huge blame here, the government have never suggested we were getting much loosening From day 1 the media have been pushing and pushing and pushing for more information which gets peoples mindset into a place that this is / should be coming to an end and now they are outright false advertising the end of lockdown with their clickbait headlines " And next week the media will be screaming for stricter lockdowns lol | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! Well we understand the message Stay at home, don't know how confusing that can be really? that might be what he says but that isn't the rule they are literally thousands of loopholes which the have not even tried to close " This.. It hasn't been clear at all. Look at the confusion over construction sites for example. Work from home unless you can't. Well there has been next to no social distancing in many workplaces where people can't work from home. It's been a shambles. | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() Why do you post so much on political threads if it bores you so much? I'm not interested in people who want to bone eachother without condoms. So I don't post on the bareback sex threads. Actually, I don't even read them. | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() True but with most people not leaving the house to buy newspapers , the usual suspects are the ones more visible online and reaching a higher audience Type anything about corona into google and its all the garbage tabloids that come up as the first search results, its the garbage tabloids that must be paying for advertising on social media to pop up in my newsfeed when i dont even read them let alone follow them | |||
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"Well we've just looked out of our window at the VE street party. Everyone mixing together. What we can't believe is there are a couple of people who work in care homes mixing and keeping no social distance. So why do we have a break out of the virus in care homes?? Others in our street have not stayed in over the last few weeks either, perfect breeding ground we believe. We are safe behind our doorwe have a break out in care homes because the government moved people with coronavirus from hospital to care homes We have a family member in a home nd he went to hospital for some tests back in March. He came back to the home and they put him in isolation which we said great, that's exactly what they should do and expected him to be in his room for 7 days. 2 days later they let him back in the social areas. Good job he didn't end up showing symptoms. The home got that wrong but fortunately got away with it. The homes stupidity not the government confusing the guidelines for them. " The home she works in is a nursing home and got it horribly wrong 21 deaths not all confirmed as covid19 80 % of staff have been tested positive over the period of 4 weeks. Including the Mrs who then passed it onto me. It really was money before the residents and carers health. | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() We all have the ability to watch the media briefing live every single day and hear what is said for ourselves, i think its pretty clear for all to see that they interpret however the like (actually however they think will best sell papers) | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() Carol Cadwalladr....good journalism and very apt with regards to what you just mentioned | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() That's the point they are not political threads until the haters turn up lol. Thanks for that. | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() Don't have to comment if you don't like it. Nobody making you. | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() People believe that politics and the media impact everyday life. Such as this issue of people ignoring the social distancing guidelines to have a VE street party. Should people be censored if they have these opinions? | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() Thanks ![]() | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() That's so unfair to Boris. Yes it's true we have the highest death rate in Europe but everyone makes mistakes. Imagine if a few thousand people died needlessly because you didn't do your job properly and ignored the advice of experts. I'm sure everyone would be patting you on the back and congratulating you for a job well done. Speaking of jobs. Doesn't the Health and Safety at Work act of 1974 specificly prohibit endangering yourself and others by ignoring safety rules and not using correct PPE? Is this not against the law? | |||
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"Well we've just looked out of our window at the VE street party. Everyone mixing together. What we can't believe is there are a couple of people who work in care homes mixing and keeping no social distance. So why do we have a break out of the virus in care homes?? Others in our street have not stayed in over the last few weeks either, perfect breeding ground we believe. We are safe behind our doorwe have a break out in care homes because the government moved people with coronavirus from hospital to care homes We have a family member in a home nd he went to hospital for some tests back in March. He came back to the home and they put him in isolation which we said great, that's exactly what they should do and expected him to be in his room for 7 days. 2 days later they let him back in the social areas. Good job he didn't end up showing symptoms. The home got that wrong but fortunately got away with it. The homes stupidity not the government confusing the guidelines for them. " no the government actually released people with coronavirus back into care homes if you chose not to believe it that's just fine | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() Are you responding to the correct part or even thread | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() The papers do not get what they publish from watching the briefings, they are briefed behind the scenes by special advisers and the like. They published what they did because they were given the information by someone like Dominic Cummings, whether it was to test public opinion or it is genuinely what is planned we don’t know but they were told by someone in no. 10. | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() This thread is about parties and how they contravene lockdown rules. My comment is how a population is expected to follow lockdown rules when the PM and NHS are in contravention of legislation and it is completely ignored. Leadership is something which flows from the top down. If the government don't think rules need to be obeyed then the general population will follow suit. If I were to be hospitalized because of not following safety regulations and not using prescribed PPE at work, I would be facing prosecution. Perhaps we need a new law book that states who needs to follow the laws of the land and who are exempt. Then there would be less confusion. | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() especially when the governments own scientific team are breaking the lockdown rules repeatedly | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() Good leaders lead by example. They do not say "do as I say not as I do" People if you want to honour the heroes of VE. Stay at home and don't put them at risk. | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() Thank you for explaining I honestly thought you were on about something different | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() How are the NHS not following the rules? | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() Did Dominic Cummings tell you that or is it just wild speculation stated as though fact? You would make a great journalist ![]() | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() No but I have friends who have worked for MPs, ministers and shadow ministers whose job it was to do just that. Briefing, or 'leaking' as it's sometimes known, happens on a daily basis. | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I'd say the chief political editor of a right leaning broadsheet was a fairly reliable source tbh. | |||
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"Girl from over the road is out in a pair of impossibly tiny denim cutoff shorts, and a teeny tiny sports bra top...... Cute as a button and im not complaining! ![]() Pics? ![]() | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I thought this was fairly common knowledge? What else do pr agents and spin drs do all day.? | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() And back to the subject of VE parties. We will be staying in and well away from those not adhering to social distance. To all those staying in their property boundaries and having a VE party safe, have a great party showing respect and honouring the Heroes. ![]() | |||
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"back to the main post, almost everyone on our street are out in their gardens. Lots of music and food but all keeping to there own gardens just making most of the situation " They all sound like great respectful neighbours. We have been wanting to move for quite some time but we have invested a lot of money and time getting our property the way we like it. This party outside just gives us more resolve really so we'll see how everything pans out. We are having our VE party for two safely in our home ![]() | |||
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"Does anyone else see the irony of celebrating our freedom at a time we are less free than ever. " No I don't. | |||
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"Does anyone else see the irony of celebrating our freedom at a time we are less free than ever. " Sort of. I see the irony in celebrating beating fascism where we have spent the last 3 years seeing Farage talking about booting out foreigners. | |||
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"Does anyone else see the irony of celebrating our freedom at a time we are less free than ever. Sort of. I see the irony in celebrating beating fascism where we have spent the last 3 years seeing Farage talking about booting out foreigners. " I agree with you people now crying about freedom after willfully voting away our freedom to live and work in 27 other countries I suspect irony is lost on some people | |||
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"Does anyone else see the irony of celebrating our freedom at a time we are less free than ever. Sort of. I see the irony in celebrating beating fascism where we have spent the last 3 years seeing Farage talking about booting out foreigners. I agree with you people now crying about freedom after willfully voting away our freedom to live and work in 27 other countries I suspect irony is lost on some people " And all that anti European sentiment forgets about the sacrifices made in france,Holland,Poland etc. | |||
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"Does anyone else see the irony of celebrating our freedom at a time we are less free than ever. Sort of. I see the irony in celebrating beating fascism where we have spent the last 3 years seeing Farage talking about booting out foreigners. I agree with you people now crying about freedom after willfully voting away our freedom to live and work in 27 other countries I suspect irony is lost on some people And all that anti European sentiment forgets about the sacrifices made in france,Holland,Poland etc." Victory in Europe. VE Day ![]() | |||
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"Does anyone else see the irony of celebrating our freedom at a time we are less free than ever. Sort of. I see the irony in celebrating beating fascism where we have spent the last 3 years seeing Farage talking about booting out foreigners. " please show me a link where he saying he wants to boot out foreigners that are here illegally. | |||
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"It’s exactly the same outside our house right now Everyone is sat all the way up the road but none of them are distancing so we don’t intend joining them Rather stay indoors at this moment in time" We have just walked around the estate. Loads of people having their own little partys In their own gardens. It's nice to see people unwinding. | |||
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"Does anyone else see the irony of celebrating our freedom at a time we are less free than ever. Sort of. I see the irony in celebrating beating fascism where we have spent the last 3 years seeing Farage talking about booting out foreigners. please show me a link where he saying he wants to boot out foreigners that are here illegally. " I'm not going to get into a debate about that toad in here. It's a thread about ve day. I just pointed out the contradiction. | |||
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"Does anyone else see the irony of celebrating our freedom at a time we are less free than ever. Sort of. I see the irony in celebrating beating fascism where we have spent the last 3 years seeing Farage talking about booting out foreigners. please show me a link where he saying he wants to boot out foreigners that are here illegally. " Blimey have you never heard of him? Just Google "Farage" and you'll find his bullshit well documented. | |||
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"Does anyone else see the irony of celebrating our freedom at a time we are less free than ever. Sort of. I see the irony in celebrating beating fascism where we have spent the last 3 years seeing Farage talking about booting out foreigners. please show me a link where he saying he wants to boot out foreigners that are here illegally. Blimey have you never heard of him? Just Google "Farage" and you'll find his bullshit well documented. " If he has such a hatred of foreigners how do you explain the fact his wife is German? | |||
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"Does anyone else see the irony of celebrating our freedom at a time we are less free than ever. Sort of. I see the irony in celebrating beating fascism where we have spent the last 3 years seeing Farage talking about booting out foreigners. please show me a link where he saying he wants to boot out foreigners that are here illegally. I'm not going to get into a debate about that toad in here. It's a thread about ve day. I just pointed out the contradiction." You bought Farage into here not me, then quote stuff from your point of view without any reference to real facts. | |||
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"Well we've just looked out of our window at the VE street party. Everyone mixing together. What we can't believe is there are a couple of people who work in care homes mixing and keeping no social distance. So why do we have a break out of the virus in care homes?? Others in our street have not stayed in over the last few weeks either, perfect breeding ground we believe. We are safe behind our doorwe have a break out in care homes because the government moved people with coronavirus from hospital to care homes " Exactly and care home staff were last to get any protective equipment. | |||
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"Does anyone else see the irony of celebrating our freedom at a time we are less free than ever. Sort of. I see the irony in celebrating beating fascism where we have spent the last 3 years seeing Farage talking about booting out foreigners. please show me a link where he saying he wants to boot out foreigners that are here illegally. Blimey have you never heard of him? Just Google "Farage" and you'll find his bullshit well documented. If he has such a hatred of foreigners how do you explain the fact his wife is German?" Ah the classic "I can't be racist, I have foreign friends" defence. I dunno how such a deeply xenophobic man could have a foreign wife. Maybe because xenophobia is complete bullshit and doesn't make any sense as a philosophy to follow? How's that? | |||
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"Well we've just looked out of our window at the VE street party. Everyone mixing together. What we can't believe is there are a couple of people who work in care homes mixing and keeping no social distance. So why do we have a break out of the virus in care homes?? Others in our street have not stayed in over the last few weeks either, perfect breeding ground we believe. We are safe behind our doorwe have a break out in care homes because the government moved people with coronavirus from hospital to care homes Exactly and care home staff were last to get any protective equipment." Aren't care homes privately run businesses? | |||
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"Does anyone else see the irony of celebrating our freedom at a time we are less free than ever. Sort of. I see the irony in celebrating beating fascism where we have spent the last 3 years seeing Farage talking about booting out foreigners. please show me a link where he saying he wants to boot out foreigners that are here illegally. I'm not going to get into a debate about that toad in here. It's a thread about ve day. I just pointed out the contradiction.You bought Farage into here not me, then quote stuff from your point of view without any reference to real facts. " That's rediculous. If someone mentioned the Pope being Catholic, would you demand proof? | |||
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"Does anyone else see the irony of celebrating our freedom at a time we are less free than ever. Sort of. I see the irony in celebrating beating fascism where we have spent the last 3 years seeing Farage talking about booting out foreigners. please show me a link where he saying he wants to boot out foreigners that are here illegally. Blimey have you never heard of him? Just Google "Farage" and you'll find his bullshit well documented. If he has such a hatred of foreigners how do you explain the fact his wife is German? Ah the classic "I can't be racist, I have foreign friends" defence. I dunno how such a deeply xenophobic man could have a foreign wife. Maybe because xenophobia is complete bullshit and doesn't make any sense as a philosophy to follow? How's that?" So you can't explain it then! | |||
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"Does anyone else see the irony of celebrating our freedom at a time we are less free than ever. Sort of. I see the irony in celebrating beating fascism where we have spent the last 3 years seeing Farage talking about booting out foreigners. please show me a link where he saying he wants to boot out foreigners that are here illegally. Blimey have you never heard of him? Just Google "Farage" and you'll find his bullshit well documented. If he has such a hatred of foreigners how do you explain the fact his wife is German? Ah the classic "I can't be racist, I have foreign friends" defence. I dunno how such a deeply xenophobic man could have a foreign wife. Maybe because xenophobia is complete bullshit and doesn't make any sense as a philosophy to follow? How's that? So you can't explain it then!" No. I've no idea why. I can also confirm that I don't care about the nationality of his wife. | |||
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"Well we've just looked out of our window at the VE street party. Everyone mixing together. What we can't believe is there are a couple of people who work in care homes mixing and keeping no social distance. So why do we have a break out of the virus in care homes?? Others in our street have not stayed in over the last few weeks either, perfect breeding ground we believe. We are safe behind our doorwe have a break out in care homes because the government moved people with coronavirus from hospital to care homes Exactly and care home staff were last to get any protective equipment. Aren't care homes privately run businesses? No. Some are run by councils The vast majority are privately run." Maybe but within 10miles of me several are run by the council. | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() This isn't really workign for you is it? Here's my take. When every national newspaper is under the impression that Momday is going to be some kind of watershed in the progress of the lockdown, it's either a collective delusion or the governemnt's messaging has gone wrong. I think it's the latter. You may disagree, but that's a hard palce for you to be in since collective delusions are not unknow, (google tulip mania for instance) but rarer than we think. What's more one clear, calm statement from Boris could have solved all this, but he's incapable of it. Boris is an extrovert, larger than life. He's dishonest, feckless, nasty and narcissistic. He's a risk taker, not a risk manager.This clusterfuck, where people have told me today that their street party doesn't matter because lockdown (and therefore social distancing) ends on Monday, is his fault. | |||
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"Does anyone else see the irony of celebrating our freedom at a time we are less free than ever. Sort of. I see the irony in celebrating beating fascism where we have spent the last 3 years seeing Farage talking about booting out foreigners. please show me a link where he saying he wants to boot out foreigners that are here illegally. I'm not going to get into a debate about that toad in here. It's a thread about ve day. I just pointed out the contradiction.You bought Farage into here not me, then quote stuff from your point of view without any reference to real facts. " If you wanna come and here and paint Farage for being such a humanitarian liberal be my guest. | |||
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"Well we've just looked out of our window at the VE street party. Everyone mixing together. What we can't believe is there are a couple of people who work in care homes mixing and keeping no social distance. So why do we have a break out of the virus in care homes?? Others in our street have not stayed in over the last few weeks either, perfect breeding ground we believe. We are safe behind our doorwe have a break out in care homes because the government moved people with coronavirus from hospital to care homes Exactly and care home staff were last to get any protective equipment. Aren't care homes privately run businesses? No. Some are run by councils The vast majority are privately run. Maybe but within 10miles of me several are run by the council." Lots of posters based in England don't understand that Scotland is different. It's even harder explaining that the central belt is different from Borders, is different from D&G, or from the highlands and islands. | |||
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"Well we've just looked out of our window at the VE street party. Everyone mixing together. What we can't believe is there are a couple of people who work in care homes mixing and keeping no social distance. So why do we have a break out of the virus in care homes?? Others in our street have not stayed in over the last few weeks either, perfect breeding ground we believe. We are safe behind our doorwe have a break out in care homes because the government moved people with coronavirus from hospital to care homes Exactly and care home staff were last to get any protective equipment. Aren't care homes privately run businesses? No. Some are run by councils The vast majority are privately run. Maybe but within 10miles of me several are run by the council.Lots of posters based in England don't understand that Scotland is different. It's even harder explaining that the central belt is different from Borders, is different from D&G, or from the highlands and islands." I dont think it really matters who is running them, if you work in a care home you have a moral responsibility to not be out mixing with people in the street unnecessarily and then potentially taking the virus to work with you | |||
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"Well we've just looked out of our window at the VE street party. Everyone mixing together. What we can't believe is there are a couple of people who work in care homes mixing and keeping no social distance. So why do we have a break out of the virus in care homes?? Others in our street have not stayed in over the last few weeks either, perfect breeding ground we believe. We are safe behind our doorwe have a break out in care homes because the government moved people with coronavirus from hospital to care homes Exactly and care home staff were last to get any protective equipment. Aren't care homes privately run businesses? No. Some are run by councils The vast majority are privately run." I dont know the exact figures but care is a mixture of private and local/central gmnt. | |||
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"Well we've just looked out of our window at the VE street party. Everyone mixing together. What we can't believe is there are a couple of people who work in care homes mixing and keeping no social distance. So why do we have a break out of the virus in care homes?? Others in our street have not stayed in over the last few weeks either, perfect breeding ground we believe. We are safe behind our doorwe have a break out in care homes because the government moved people with coronavirus from hospital to care homes Exactly and care home staff were last to get any protective equipment. Aren't care homes privately run businesses? No. Some are run by councils The vast majority are privately run. Maybe but within 10miles of me several are run by the council.Lots of posters based in England don't understand that Scotland is different. It's even harder explaining that the central belt is different from Borders, is different from D&G, or from the highlands and islands. I dont think it really matters who is running them, if you work in a care home you have a moral responsibility to not be out mixing with people in the street unnecessarily and then potentially taking the virus to work with you " Our home is virus free but we are getting moved to the care homes with the virus when they are short staffed. It is the people up the top who have no brains. | |||
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"Well we've just looked out of our window at the VE street party. Everyone mixing together. What we can't believe is there are a couple of people who work in care homes mixing and keeping no social distance. So why do we have a break out of the virus in care homes?? Others in our street have not stayed in over the last few weeks either, perfect breeding ground we believe. We are safe behind our doorwe have a break out in care homes because the government moved people with coronavirus from hospital to care homes Exactly and care home staff were last to get any protective equipment. Aren't care homes privately run businesses? No. Some are run by councils The vast majority are privately run. Maybe but within 10miles of me several are run by the council.Lots of posters based in England don't understand that Scotland is different. It's even harder explaining that the central belt is different from Borders, is different from D&G, or from the highlands and islands. I dont think it really matters who is running them, if you work in a care home you have a moral responsibility to not be out mixing with people in the street unnecessarily and then potentially taking the virus to work with you " The irony is that we both contacted the virus via a care home. | |||
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"Well we've just looked out of our window at the VE street party. Everyone mixing together. What we can't believe is there are a couple of people who work in care homes mixing and keeping no social distance. So why do we have a break out of the virus in care homes?? Others in our street have not stayed in over the last few weeks either, perfect breeding ground we believe. We are safe behind our doorwe have a break out in care homes because the government moved people with coronavirus from hospital to care homes Exactly and care home staff were last to get any protective equipment. Aren't care homes privately run businesses? No. Some are run by councils The vast majority are privately run. Maybe but within 10miles of me several are run by the council.Lots of posters based in England don't understand that Scotland is different. It's even harder explaining that the central belt is different from Borders, is different from D&G, or from the highlands and islands. I dont think it really matters who is running them, if you work in a care home you have a moral responsibility to not be out mixing with people in the street unnecessarily and then potentially taking the virus to work with you Our home is virus free but we are getting moved to the care homes with the virus when they are short staffed. It is the people up the top who have no brains." Agreed | |||
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"Well we've just looked out of our window at the VE street party. Everyone mixing together. What we can't believe is there are a couple of people who work in care homes mixing and keeping no social distance. So why do we have a break out of the virus in care homes?? Others in our street have not stayed in over the last few weeks either, perfect breeding ground we believe. We are safe behind our doorwe have a break out in care homes because the government moved people with coronavirus from hospital to care homes Exactly and care home staff were last to get any protective equipment. Aren't care homes privately run businesses? No. Some are run by councils The vast majority are privately run. Maybe but within 10miles of me several are run by the council." Lets hope they are all having lovely VE Parties in their care homes ![]() | |||
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"Well we've just looked out of our window at the VE street party. Everyone mixing together. What we can't believe is there are a couple of people who work in care homes mixing and keeping no social distance. So why do we have a break out of the virus in care homes?? Others in our street have not stayed in over the last few weeks either, perfect breeding ground we believe. We are safe behind our doorwe have a break out in care homes because the government moved people with coronavirus from hospital to care homes Exactly and care home staff were last to get any protective equipment. Aren't care homes privately run businesses? No. Some are run by councils The vast majority are privately run. Maybe but within 10miles of me several are run by the council. Lets hope they are all having lovely VE Parties in their care homes ![]() They are down the street from us. When we went past they had a live band on the lawn with the residents watching and dancing from inside the windows. | |||
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"Well we've just looked out of our window at the VE street party. Everyone mixing together. What we can't believe is there are a couple of people who work in care homes mixing and keeping no social distance. So why do we have a break out of the virus in care homes?? Others in our street have not stayed in over the last few weeks either, perfect breeding ground we believe. We are safe behind our doorwe have a break out in care homes because the government moved people with coronavirus from hospital to care homes Exactly and care home staff were last to get any protective equipment. Aren't care homes privately run businesses? No. Some are run by councils The vast majority are privately run. Maybe but within 10miles of me several are run by the council. Lets hope they are all having lovely VE Parties in their care homes ![]() Always something to make us smile. Sounds like a great party for them ![]() | |||
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"Does anyone else see the irony of celebrating our freedom at a time we are less free than ever. Sort of. I see the irony in celebrating beating fascism where we have spent the last 3 years seeing Farage talking about booting out foreigners. please show me a link where he saying he wants to boot out foreigners that are here illegally. Blimey have you never heard of him? Just Google "Farage" and you'll find his bullshit well documented. If he has such a hatred of foreigners how do you explain the fact his wife is German?" How can I be sexist when my own mother is a woman? | |||
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" They are down the street from us. When we went past they had a live band on the lawn with the residents watching and dancing from inside the windows." We have live music and a pa system for music. Someone has complained though as had a police car just. They have had a cold drink... some cake and gone again though | |||
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"Let’s remove the furlough payment and then let’s see how many of you want the lockdown extended then. There is no massive increase in deaths from any other year in fact March 2017 had more deaths than march this year" No it didn't. | |||
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"Well we've just looked out of our window at the VE street party. Everyone mixing together. What we can't believe is there are a couple of people who work in care homes mixing and keeping no social distance. So why do we have a break out of the virus in care homes?? Others in our street have not stayed in over the last few weeks either, perfect breeding ground we believe. We are safe behind our doorwe have a break out in care homes because the government moved people with coronavirus from hospital to care homes Exactly and care home staff were last to get any protective equipment. Aren't care homes privately run businesses? No. Some are run by councils The vast majority are privately run. Maybe but within 10miles of me several are run by the council. Lets hope they are all having lovely VE Parties in their care homes ![]() ![]() It looked like they were loving it. | |||
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" They are down the street from us. When we went past they had a live band on the lawn with the residents watching and dancing from inside the windows. We have live music and a pa system for music. Someone has complained though as had a police car just. They have had a cold drink... some cake and gone again though " ![]() | |||
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"Let’s remove the furlough payment and then let’s see how many of you want the lockdown extended then. There is no massive increase in deaths from any other year in fact March 2017 had more deaths than march this year No it didn't." there were nearly 50k deaths in march 2017. | |||
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"Does anyone else see the irony of celebrating our freedom at a time we are less free than ever. Sort of. I see the irony in celebrating beating fascism where we have spent the last 3 years seeing Farage talking about booting out foreigners. please show me a link where he saying he wants to boot out foreigners that are here illegally. Blimey have you never heard of him? Just Google "Farage" and you'll find his bullshit well documented. If he has such a hatred of foreigners how do you explain the fact his wife is German? How can I be sexist when my own mother is a woman?" ![]() | |||
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"Let’s remove the furlough payment and then let’s see how many of you want the lockdown extended then. There is no massive increase in deaths from any other year in fact March 2017 had more deaths than march this year No it didn't. there were nearly 50k deaths in march 2017." this is true though people only want it to continue because they getting paid if the government removes that safety blanket we would all be scrzmblii6to get back to work | |||
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"Let’s remove the furlough payment and then let’s see how many of you want the lockdown extended then. There is no massive increase in deaths from any other year in fact March 2017 had more deaths than march this year No it didn't. there were nearly 50k deaths in march 2017." There have been nearly 50,000 deaths registered this March (approximately 300 more than in March 2017) that number will increase as time goes on because the number registered by the end of the month is always lower than the actual number of deaths. Bureaucracy is a slow beast and the true number will not be known for a while yet. | |||
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"Let’s remove the furlough payment and then let’s see how many of you want the lockdown extended then. There is no massive increase in deaths from any other year in fact March 2017 had more deaths than march this year No it didn't. there were nearly 50k deaths in march 2017.this is true though people only want it to continue because they getting paid if the government removes that safety blanket we would all be scrzmblii6to get back to work " I’m still working, more (unpaid) hours than before lock down, I want to see it continue until it’s safe for it to end. | |||
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"Let’s remove the furlough payment and then let’s see how many of you want the lockdown extended then. There is no massive increase in deaths from any other year in fact March 2017 had more deaths than march this year No it didn't. there were nearly 50k deaths in march 2017. There have been nearly 50,000 deaths registered this March (approximately 300 more than in March 2017) that number will increase as time goes on because the number registered by the end of the month is always lower than the actual number of deaths. Bureaucracy is a slow beast and the true number will not be known for a while yet." the point being there having been loads of extra deaths really considering. Although April will be different as loads of deaths linked to the lockdown as well as normal ones and covid ones. | |||
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"The mixed messaging has been terrible! I think the press have to take a large share of the blame for that Boris: we might start to consider some loosening of restrictions from as early as monday Media: magic monday freedom from lockdown ![]() ![]() ![]() How blind do you have to be? ![]() | |||
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"Let’s remove the furlough payment and then let’s see how many of you want the lockdown extended then. There is no massive increase in deaths from any other year in fact March 2017 had more deaths than march this year No it didn't. there were nearly 50k deaths in march 2017. There have been nearly 50,000 deaths registered this March (approximately 300 more than in March 2017) that number will increase as time goes on because the number registered by the end of the month is always lower than the actual number of deaths. Bureaucracy is a slow beast and the true number will not be known for a while yet. the point being there having been loads of extra deaths really considering. Although April will be different as loads of deaths linked to the lockdown as well as normal ones and covid ones. " Correct, there have been loads of extra deaths, they just haven’t all been registered yet. What extra deaths do you think there will have been in April due to the lock down? | |||
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"Let’s remove the furlough payment and then let’s see how many of you want the lockdown extended then. There is no massive increase in deaths from any other year in fact March 2017 had more deaths than march this year No it didn't. there were nearly 50k deaths in march 2017. There have been nearly 50,000 deaths registered this March (approximately 300 more than in March 2017) that number will increase as time goes on because the number registered by the end of the month is always lower than the actual number of deaths. Bureaucracy is a slow beast and the true number will not be known for a while yet. the point being there having been loads of extra deaths really considering. Although April will be different as loads of deaths linked to the lockdown as well as normal ones and covid ones. Correct, there have been loads of extra deaths, they just haven’t all been registered yet. What extra deaths do you think there will have been in April due to the lock down?" the extra suicides..the deaths caused by people to afraid to go to get something checked out. The deaths that will fall totally under the radar as always.. I can tell you that mental health is going to be in a bad way for quite some time. Anyway back to the ve day party. I've loves ours. We have had a big bbq .. cakes delivered from different neighbours and the entertainment has been great. Mostly enjoying themselves... kids playing football with a pitch divided into 4 for thr four groups playing. All the tables are at least 4metres if not more apart. But I wouldn't say everyone is from the same houses. | |||
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"Let’s remove the furlough payment and then let’s see how many of you want the lockdown extended then. There is no massive increase in deaths from any other year in fact March 2017 had more deaths than march this year No it didn't. there were nearly 50k deaths in march 2017. There have been nearly 50,000 deaths registered this March (approximately 300 more than in March 2017) that number will increase as time goes on because the number registered by the end of the month is always lower than the actual number of deaths. Bureaucracy is a slow beast and the true number will not be known for a while yet. the point being there having been loads of extra deaths really considering. Although April will be different as loads of deaths linked to the lockdown as well as normal ones and covid ones. Correct, there have been loads of extra deaths, they just haven’t all been registered yet. What extra deaths do you think there will have been in April due to the lock down? the extra suicides..the deaths caused by people to afraid to go to get something checked out. The deaths that will fall totally under the radar as always.. I can tell you that mental health is going to be in a bad way for quite some time. Anyway back to the ve day party. I've loves ours. We have had a big bbq .. cakes delivered from different neighbours and the entertainment has been great. Mostly enjoying themselves... kids playing football with a pitch divided into 4 for thr four groups playing. All the tables are at least 4metres if not more apart. But I wouldn't say everyone is from the same houses. " Happy to know you have enjoyed your VE day ![]() | |||
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"Let’s remove the furlough payment and then let’s see how many of you want the lockdown extended then. There is no massive increase in deaths from any other year in fact March 2017 had more deaths than march this year No it didn't. there were nearly 50k deaths in march 2017. There have been nearly 50,000 deaths registered this March (approximately 300 more than in March 2017) that number will increase as time goes on because the number registered by the end of the month is always lower than the actual number of deaths. Bureaucracy is a slow beast and the true number will not be known for a while yet. the point being there having been loads of extra deaths really considering. Although April will be different as loads of deaths linked to the lockdown as well as normal ones and covid ones. Correct, there have been loads of extra deaths, they just haven’t all been registered yet. What extra deaths do you think there will have been in April due to the lock down? the extra suicides..the deaths caused by people to afraid to go to get something checked out. The deaths that will fall totally under the radar as always.. I can tell you that mental health is going to be in a bad way for quite some time. Anyway back to the ve day party. I've loves ours. We have had a big bbq .. cakes delivered from different neighbours and the entertainment has been great. Mostly enjoying themselves... kids playing football with a pitch divided into 4 for thr four groups playing. All the tables are at least 4metres if not more apart. But I wouldn't say everyone is from the same houses. " Well they’ll all be recorded so we’ll be able to tell if they outnumber the deaths from Covid19. Of course there are those who will tell you that the lock down shouldn’t be taken into account as the people would’ve committed suicide anyway, as they have said about the vulnerable people who have died of Covid 19. | |||
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"Well we've just looked out of our window at the VE street party. Everyone mixing together. What we can't believe is there are a couple of people who work in care homes mixing and keeping no social distance. So why do we have a break out of the virus in care homes?? Others in our street have not stayed in over the last few weeks either, perfect breeding ground we believe. We are safe behind our doorwe have a break out in care homes because the government moved people with coronavirus from hospital to care homes Exactly and care home staff were last to get any protective equipment. Aren't care homes privately run businesses? Think 84% now are privately run and charging ridiculous fees others are council run so should be for them to supply PPE. Was it the government that personally removed the people from the hospital to a care home or was it the hospital that discharged them, just a thought " Not sure who discharged them from hospital to the home where the mrs works. But I am sure the owners are getting a pretty penny for it. | |||
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