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By *lackXeal OP   Man
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

Just wondering in every single news or headline, they always put the death toll of covid 19. Why cant that they tell us about other death besides covid 19?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Because it's a real, present and global threat and an event of unparalleled significance in our lifetimes?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They don't have any other news i would like to know about about normal deaths as well. You would think it was the black plague that killed half of the british population.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They aren't telling us road deaths and injuries have dropped dramatically, no airplane crashes, pollution right down.... Is that saving lives? Less hedgehogs getting squashed......

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I read an analyst (I think from the FT, on Twitter) suggesting that we should add another 20k excess deaths due to Covid related disruption so far. Yes, I do mean the UK alone. Does that make you feel better?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Because it's a real, present and global threat and an event of unparalleled significance in our lifetimes?"

How do you know? It might be eclipsed next year by world war 3, alien invasion or covid20

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

NASA admitted UFOs exist last week. That should be front page news

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unidentified flying objects and unidentifiable sexual conquests have always existed lol but I see it as 50 50 lunacy, sending messages into space, because if they do exist its ....will they want new friends? Or dinner?

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By *herryblossom_BJWoman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire


"They aren't telling us road deaths and injuries have dropped dramatically, no airplane crashes, pollution right down.... Is that saving lives? Less hedgehogs getting squashed...... "

Thank god for more wildlife saved

I was walking through my local woods and admiring the blue bells. So many around because of Covid-19 as less people treading on them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can this be moved to Virus section?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can this be moved to Virus section?"

Think that was the point of post, let's NOT talk about a certain virus but ........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can this be moved to Virus section?

Think that was the point of post, let's NOT talk about a certain virus but ........ "

Especially with a header like that

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island


"Just wondering in every single news or headline, they always put the death toll of covid 19. Why cant that they tell us about other death besides covid 19?

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Because the other deaths would be higher then the Covid-19 deaths, and most of the time they wouldn't know who died of what.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Choose your news innit....

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By *ncutgemMan
over a year ago

Bath ish


"Unidentified flying objects and unidentifiable sexual conquests have always existed lol but I see it as 50 50 lunacy, sending messages into space, because if they do exist its ....will they want new friends? Or dinner? "

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By *ncutgemMan
over a year ago

Bath ish


"Unidentified flying objects and unidentifiable sexual conquests have always existed lol but I see it as 50 50 lunacy, sending messages into space, because if they do exist its ....will they want new friends? Or dinner? "

The best we can hope for us that were just a tasty snack

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By *ussex team upMan
over a year ago

Sussex

If you had a major plane crash it would make the news .... if you get the equivalent number of deaths of 2 or 3 plane crashes a day I think that merits front page news

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan


"I read an analyst (I think from the FT, on Twitter) suggesting that we should add another 20k excess deaths due to Covid related disruption so far. Yes, I do mean the UK alone. Does that make you feel better?"

It makes me feel confused.... what is ‘covid related disruption’.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I read an analyst (I think from the FT, on Twitter) suggesting that we should add another 20k excess deaths due to Covid related disruption so far. Yes, I do mean the UK alone. Does that make you feel better?

It makes me feel confused.... what is ‘covid related disruption’. "

Things such as cancer cases not coming forward, treatment being suspended. People with chest pains avoiding going to NHS and then dying of heart problems etc...thats my understanding anyway.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I read an analyst (I think from the FT, on Twitter) suggesting that we should add another 20k excess deaths due to Covid related disruption so far. Yes, I do mean the UK alone. Does that make you feel better?

It makes me feel confused.... what is ‘covid related disruption’.

Things such as cancer cases not coming forward, treatment being suspended. People with chest pains avoiding going to NHS and then dying of heart problems etc...thats my understanding anyway."

Yes. Or treatment going badly or infrastructure suffering

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Well the heat is picking up in South now ....Spain italy Portugal and france so virus gone soon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not all deaths are from covid but they still include that somehow in the total, so it will sound more than what it really is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wondering in every single news or headline, they always put the death toll of covid 19. Why cant that they tell us about other death besides covid 19?

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Because it's exaggerated on purpose. Many deaths for any causes are now blamed on covid.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I read an analyst (I think from the FT, on Twitter) suggesting that we should add another 20k excess deaths due to Covid related disruption so far. Yes, I do mean the UK alone. Does that make you feel better?

It makes me feel confused.... what is ‘covid related disruption’. "

On top of the 32,000 deaths attributed to covid there are about 10,000 more deaths over and above the 5 year average in the same time..

there has been a marked drop in people presenting at hospital since lockdown..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Unidentified flying objects and unidentifiable sexual conquests have always existed lol but I see it as 50 50 lunacy, sending messages into space, because if they do exist its ....will they want new friends? Or dinner? "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The death rate now is just the start.

Stay lockdown and save lives, not true.

In south Africa you have stand in line for 6 hours in the hope you get some food because of Europe lockdown. Millions will die the virus won't get a lookin.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not related but important. Boris Johnson in the same week he was lamenting how much he loved the NHS etc he was signing off 200 billion pounds on a railway (Hs2) we don't want don't need and definitely can't afford, imagine what that could have done for our NHS our economy. So much for the chance of change and a new way of living

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not related but important. Boris Johnson in the same week he was lamenting how much he loved the NHS etc he was signing off 200 billion pounds on a railway (Hs2) we don't want don't need and definitely can't afford, imagine what that could have done for our NHS our economy. So much for the chance of change and a new way of living"
Hs2 is about jobs and speading the some more money north, not everyone works or want to work in the NHS. Can't spend all tax payers money on the NHS.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People always lose all reason lol if you are old enough you will remember we had enough nuclear weapons to destroy the world several times over, we all got leaflets saying what to do if a strike happens etc and people said we don't need bombs la la la and the world is different now lol it's never different, watch game of thrones!

Then hiv was killing everyone and no cure, it has killed millions, Eddie Murphy the comedian was doing a joke, like fuck, what's next you just put your dick in and blow up! Please bring back herpes and lice lol

So are aliens coming or what? And aren't there a lot of hedgehogs about and why did page 3 get stopped lol

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By *uttyjonnMan
over a year ago

cheshire


"People always lose all reason lol if you are old enough you will remember we had enough nuclear weapons to destroy the world several times over, we all got leaflets saying what to do if a strike happens etc and people said we don't need bombs la la la "

Funny you should mention nuclear attack, I looked this up the other day, it brought back some nice childhood memories

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6677Eppc-sk

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By *lackXeal OP   Man
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

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By *lackXeal OP   Man
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

Covid 19 death just exceeds 30k. Just came in as a headline news.

Should we be paranoid, scared or what?

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

Halloween Decks are up and looking fabulous


"NASA admitted UFOs exist last week. That should be front page news"

It was front page news.

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

Halloween Decks are up and looking fabulous

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

Halloween Decks are up and looking fabulous

The Government did write off the £13.4 billion NHS debt.

But I agree we really do not need Hs2 as much as it's being touted, but it will create jobs at a time that the country may well need them.

Or . . . build a new specialist hospital every 200 miles along the route instead using the money.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Not related but important. Boris Johnson in the same week he was lamenting how much he loved the NHS etc he was signing off 200 billion pounds on a railway (Hs2) we don't want don't need and definitely can't afford, imagine what that could have done for our NHS our economy. So much for the chance of change and a new way of livingHs2 is about jobs and speading the some more money north, not everyone works or want to work in the NHS. Can't spend all tax payers money on the NHS. "

Hs2 is a vanity project.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Covid 19 death just exceeds 30k. Just came in as a headline news.

Should we be paranoid, scared or what?"

24 million people died of hiv last year

Over 36 million year before

But yes we should be scared of covid hot water and animals with big teeth....... It's a long list.. I'm scared of a well wielded strap on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Covid 19 death just exceeds 30k. Just came in as a headline news.

Should we be paranoid, scared or what?

24 million people died of hiv last year

Over 36 million year before

But yes we should be scared of covid hot water and animals with big teeth....... It's a long list.. I'm scared of a well wielded strap on "

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

It would be nice to have the survival rate published too, but I guess that news wouldn't be so dramatic for the media.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not related but important. Boris Johnson in the same week he was lamenting how much he loved the NHS etc he was signing off 200 billion pounds on a railway (Hs2) we don't want don't need and definitely can't afford, imagine what that could have done for our NHS our economy. So much for the chance of change and a new way of livingHs2 is about jobs and speading the some more money north, not everyone works or want to work in the NHS. Can't spend all tax payers money on the NHS.

Hs2 is a vanity project."

Said the same thing about steam trains, we wouldn't be able to breath they said ! We could. good transportation has always been vital, Suez Canal, bridge over..... Links, without them oops!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wondering in every single news or headline, they always put the death toll of covid 19. Why cant that they tell us about other death besides covid 19?

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Where you asking for those prior to the pandemic?

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By *lackXeal OP   Man
over a year ago

Middlesbrough


"Just wondering in every single news or headline, they always put the death toll of covid 19. Why cant that they tell us about other death besides covid 19?

Where you asking for those prior to the pandemic?"

Nope but they dont put it in the news either to tell us what death killed more people the previous day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wondering in every single news or headline, they always put the death toll of covid 19. Why cant that they tell us about other death besides covid 19?

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A. The media is obsessed with spreading misery and depression

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B. It's the Government's best form of populace control to keep the lockdown relevant and in people's minds.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wondering in every single news or headline, they always put the death toll of covid 19. Why cant that they tell us about other death besides covid 19?

A. The media is obsessed with spreading misery and depression

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B. It's the Government's best form of populace control to keep the lockdown relevant and in people's minds. "

Facts.

Plus we do kind of have ti onow just how badly a Tory gorvernment handles this, if they arent robbing us or killing our needy, they really are useless.

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Amazing how little nightingale hospital was actually used and the nec one hasn't even had one patient

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"Just wondering in every single news or headline, they always put the death toll of covid 19. Why cant that they tell us about other death besides covid 19?

A. The media is obsessed with spreading misery and depression

&

B. It's the Government's best form of populace control to keep the lockdown relevant and in people's minds. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wondering in every single news or headline, they always put the death toll of covid 19. Why cant that they tell us about other death besides covid 19?

Where you asking for those prior to the pandemic?

Nope but they dont put it in the news either to tell us what death killed more people the previous day. "

I'm not sure if you'd realised but Covid 19 is rather the big thing at the moment, it's pretty new and it's killing people at quite the alarming rate.

The government has told us that relaxation of restrictions is dependent on a number of things, including deaths from Covid 19, so I find it quite useful that the number of deaths is reported daily.

I'm sure if cancers were only a few months old and we were able to prevent ourselves from getting them by self isolation they'd be announcing the cancer deaths n the news but it isn't, we can't, so they don't.

Why so keen not to have Covid 19 deaths announced anyway?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I feel like people would rather forget and move on, and so are getting upset that this is still happening, and are getting upset with the messengers.

It's here, it's bad, and no fluffy feel good or not listening will make it better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Amazing how little nightingale hospital was actually used and the nec one hasn't even had one patient

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We will be happy when lockdown ends and the nightingales are overflowing with dead and dying people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The news does regularly state deaths from other diseases such as cancer. But its pointless doing that in a pandemic which really average Joe wants to know what's going on with the pandemic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I feel like people would rather forget and move on, and so are getting upset that this is still happening, and are getting upset with the messengers.

It's here, it's bad, and no fluffy feel good or not listening will make it better."

I get the feeling there are a lot of people who think they should just be allowed to get back to doing whatever they want because they don’t think they will be affected too badly if they get it. Conveniently forgetting about the people it does affect makes that easier, being told it’s killing hundreds every day pricks at their conscience and the selfish don’t like having their conscience pricked.

I think that’s probably why they are so desperate to cling to anything that will help them go back to doing what they want and fuck everyone else. Wilful blindness is very real, and very dangerous.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Amazing how little nightingale hospital was actually used and the nec one hasn't even had one patient

We will be happy when lockdown ends and the nightingales are overflowing with dead and dying people. "

This genuinely puzzles me, why aren’t people happy we didn’t need the thousands of extra beds (nor that we could’ve staffed them)?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I feel like people would rather forget and move on, and so are getting upset that this is still happening, and are getting upset with the messengers.

It's here, it's bad, and no fluffy feel good or not listening will make it better.

I get the feeling there are a lot of people who think they should just be allowed to get back to doing whatever they want because they don’t think they will be affected too badly if they get it. Conveniently forgetting about the people it does affect makes that easier, being told it’s killing hundreds every day pricks at their conscience and the selfish don’t like having their conscience pricked.

I think that’s probably why they are so desperate to cling to anything that will help them go back to doing what they want and fuck everyone else. Wilful blindness is very real, and very dangerous."

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I feel like people would rather forget and move on, and so are getting upset that this is still happening, and are getting upset with the messengers.

It's here, it's bad, and no fluffy feel good or not listening will make it better.

I get the feeling there are a lot of people who think they should just be allowed to get back to doing whatever they want because they don’t think they will be affected too badly if they get it. Conveniently forgetting about the people it does affect makes that easier, being told it’s killing hundreds every day pricks at their conscience and the selfish don’t like having their conscience pricked.

I think that’s probably why they are so desperate to cling to anything that will help them go back to doing what they want and fuck everyone else. Wilful blindness is very real, and very dangerous."

Yes.

You don't know if you'll suffer badly. You don't know the long term consequences. No one knows the long term consequences, that's what novel (new) means.

And even if I knew for sure that I'd just feel like crap for a couple of weeks and life would continue... I'd still keep my disease vector arse at home because I also don't want to harm others.

Economic damage is inevitable here. There's a balance to be had. But I fear some don't care about the scale of death and disability, they just want to pretend all is well.

We're approaching the death toll of the London Blitz. And on this VE Day, some are talking about the survivors of the blitz being disposable.

Lest we forget indeed.

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By *argudMan
over a year ago

Llanelli

must be fake news, ask trumper

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By *lackXeal OP   Man
over a year ago

Middlesbrough


"Just wondering in every single news or headline, they always put the death toll of covid 19. Why cant that they tell us about other death besides covid 19?

Where you asking for those prior to the pandemic?

Nope but they dont put it in the news either to tell us what death killed more people the previous day.

I'm not sure if you'd realised but Covid 19 is rather the big thing at the moment, it's pretty new and it's killing people at quite the alarming rate.

The government has told us that relaxation of restrictions is dependent on a number of things, including deaths from Covid 19, so I find it quite useful that the number of deaths is reported daily.

I'm sure if cancers were only a few months old and we were able to prevent ourselves from getting them by self isolation they'd be announcing the cancer deaths n the news but it isn't, we can't, so they don't.

Why so keen not to have Covid 19 deaths announced anyway?"

Maybe I hate been threatened and made to be scared and that if you go out you will die of covid 19. There are deaths every where and every day.

When I first studied microbiology I was paranoid and scared because i was told and taught how we can get infected just touching money. But since then no big deal as people die of mysterious death every single day with large numbers of casualties.

I still go work, shop and still interact with people from distance. I think covid 19 is just getting too hyped because flu still kill kills people and we dont get the new every single day

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By *lackXeal OP   Man
over a year ago

Middlesbrough


"I feel like people would rather forget and move on, and so are getting upset that this is still happening, and are getting upset with the messengers.

It's here, it's bad, and no fluffy feel good or not listening will make it better.

I get the feeling there are a lot of people who think they should just be allowed to get back to doing whatever they want because they don’t think they will be affected too badly if they get it. Conveniently forgetting about the people it does affect makes that easier, being told it’s killing hundreds every day pricks at their conscience and the selfish don’t like having their conscience pricked.

I think that’s probably why they are so desperate to cling to anything that will help them go back to doing what they want and fuck everyone else. Wilful blindness is very real, and very dangerous."

My point is they should be fair and honest to report every other top 5 deaths killing us in UK. Why making covid 19 special when people always die of pneumonia and flu every single day

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I feel like people would rather forget and move on, and so are getting upset that this is still happening, and are getting upset with the messengers.

It's here, it's bad, and no fluffy feel good or not listening will make it better.

I get the feeling there are a lot of people who think they should just be allowed to get back to doing whatever they want because they don’t think they will be affected too badly if they get it. Conveniently forgetting about the people it does affect makes that easier, being told it’s killing hundreds every day pricks at their conscience and the selfish don’t like having their conscience pricked.

I think that’s probably why they are so desperate to cling to anything that will help them go back to doing what they want and fuck everyone else. Wilful blindness is very real, and very dangerous.

My point is they should be fair and honest to report every other top 5 deaths killing us in UK. Why making covid 19 special when people always die of pneumonia and flu every single day"

Because news is about what's unusual by definition. And this is in addition to everything else.

Would you prefer a breakdown of all the ways people die on the news? I wouldn't. That sounds horrible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe I hate been threatened and made to be scared and that if you go out you will die of covid 19. There are deaths every where and every day.

When I first studied microbiology I was paranoid and scared because i was told and taught how we can get infected just touching money. But since then no big deal as people die of mysterious death every single day with large numbers of casualties.

I still go work, shop and still interact with people from distance. I think covid 19 is just getting too hyped because flu still kill kills people and we dont get the new every single day "

Right...so everyday deaths happen..yes flu can kill..cars can crash..cancer patients die..etc..these are the norms we are used to...but put simply... Covid19 is killing extra people..the number of deaths week on week..month to month are higher in every country..

The virus is new...it is affecting people differently..we don't know the long term impacts as it is still new..not around long enough to understand..

But already we know it has the ability to cause significant damage to some people..

There is a video on YouTube..re the maths of infection..flu..1.5people equals in a 10 person chain only infects less then 30 people... Covid19..the same chain equals 50k infected...that's a significant difference...

Just take a moment to actually look at the reactions and views being expressed by the actual staff on the front line of treatment...they are seeing higher numbers of deaths... almost instant deterioration in Patients resulting in rapid changes...and not in a good way..

We are faced with a stark choice. And if you wanna shove your head in the sand you go for it...I'd rather you shoved your head up your ass..but HeyHo..it's not a conspiracy..it's not just flu..and if you think different.. I'm not arguing with you...but I'll gladly explain why I'm right...lol (dropping a rick and Morty quote..)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wondering in every single news or headline, they always put the death toll of covid 19. Why cant that they tell us about other death besides covid 19?

Where you asking for those prior to the pandemic?

Nope but they dont put it in the news either to tell us what death killed more people the previous day.

I'm not sure if you'd realised but Covid 19 is rather the big thing at the moment, it's pretty new and it's killing people at quite the alarming rate.

The government has told us that relaxation of restrictions is dependent on a number of things, including deaths from Covid 19, so I find it quite useful that the number of deaths is reported daily.

I'm sure if cancers were only a few months old and we were able to prevent ourselves from getting them by self isolation they'd be announcing the cancer deaths n the news but it isn't, we can't, so they don't.

Why so keen not to have Covid 19 deaths announced anyway?

Maybe I hate been threatened and made to be scared and that if you go out you will die of covid 19. There are deaths every where and every day.

When I first studied microbiology I was paranoid and scared because i was told and taught how we can get infected just touching money. But since then no big deal as people die of mysterious death every single day with large numbers of casualties.

I still go work, shop and still interact with people from distance. I think covid 19 is just getting too hyped because flu still kill kills people and we dont get the new every single day "

So when there is a plane crash that kills say, 300 people do you ask “why are you talking about a plane crash when xxx people are killed every day in car crashes?” Or do you, perhaps, think that’s really sad?

Things that happen all the time aren’t news, that’s just the way the world works.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I feel like people would rather forget and move on, and so are getting upset that this is still happening, and are getting upset with the messengers.

It's here, it's bad, and no fluffy feel good or not listening will make it better.

I get the feeling there are a lot of people who think they should just be allowed to get back to doing whatever they want because they don’t think they will be affected too badly if they get it. Conveniently forgetting about the people it does affect makes that easier, being told it’s killing hundreds every day pricks at their conscience and the selfish don’t like having their conscience pricked.

I think that’s probably why they are so desperate to cling to anything that will help them go back to doing what they want and fuck everyone else. Wilful blindness is very real, and very dangerous.

My point is they should be fair and honest to report every other top 5 deaths killing us in UK. Why making covid 19 special when people always die of pneumonia and flu every single day"

Why stop at 5? Why is the 6th highest any less worthy of attention? In fact why stop there, what about 7, 8, 9 and 10?

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By *lackXeal OP   Man
over a year ago

Middlesbrough


"I feel like people would rather forget and move on, and so are getting upset that this is still happening, and are getting upset with the messengers.

It's here, it's bad, and no fluffy feel good or not listening will make it better.

I get the feeling there are a lot of people who think they should just be allowed to get back to doing whatever they want because they don’t think they will be affected too badly if they get it. Conveniently forgetting about the people it does affect makes that easier, being told it’s killing hundreds every day pricks at their conscience and the selfish don’t like having their conscience pricked.

I think that’s probably why they are so desperate to cling to anything that will help them go back to doing what they want and fuck everyone else. Wilful blindness is very real, and very dangerous.

My point is they should be fair and honest to report every other top 5 deaths killing us in UK. Why making covid 19 special when people always die of pneumonia and flu every single day

Why stop at 5? Why is the 6th highest any less worthy of attention? In fact why stop there, what about 7, 8, 9 and 10?"

100 is ok. I just dont want to overwhelmed the media

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I feel like people would rather forget and move on, and so are getting upset that this is still happening, and are getting upset with the messengers.

It's here, it's bad, and no fluffy feel good or not listening will make it better.

I get the feeling there are a lot of people who think they should just be allowed to get back to doing whatever they want because they don’t think they will be affected too badly if they get it. Conveniently forgetting about the people it does affect makes that easier, being told it’s killing hundreds every day pricks at their conscience and the selfish don’t like having their conscience pricked.

I think that’s probably why they are so desperate to cling to anything that will help them go back to doing what they want and fuck everyone else. Wilful blindness is very real, and very dangerous.

My point is they should be fair and honest to report every other top 5 deaths killing us in UK. Why making covid 19 special when people always die of pneumonia and flu every single day

Why stop at 5? Why is the 6th highest any less worthy of attention? In fact why stop there, what about 7, 8, 9 and 10?

100 is ok. I just dont want to overwhelmed the media "

I'm glad you're acknowledging the ridiculousness of your premise.

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By *lackXeal OP   Man
over a year ago

Middlesbrough


"I feel like people would rather forget and move on, and so are getting upset that this is still happening, and are getting upset with the messengers.

It's here, it's bad, and no fluffy feel good or not listening will make it better.

I get the feeling there are a lot of people who think they should just be allowed to get back to doing whatever they want because they don’t think they will be affected too badly if they get it. Conveniently forgetting about the people it does affect makes that easier, being told it’s killing hundreds every day pricks at their conscience and the selfish don’t like having their conscience pricked.

I think that’s probably why they are so desperate to cling to anything that will help them go back to doing what they want and fuck everyone else. Wilful blindness is very real, and very dangerous.

My point is they should be fair and honest to report every other top 5 deaths killing us in UK. Why making covid 19 special when people always die of pneumonia and flu every single day

Why stop at 5? Why is the 6th highest any less worthy of attention? In fact why stop there, what about 7, 8, 9 and 10?

100 is ok. I just dont want to overwhelmed the media

I'm glad you're acknowledging the ridiculousness of your premise."

You think I'm ridiculous? You have studied microbiology you will know that the more you sanitize your hands the more bacteria you invite

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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You think I'm ridiculous? You have studied microbiology you will know that the more you sanitize your hands the more bacteria you invite "

Hate to say but your pseudoscience falls down..on 1 major issue re Covid19...

It's a virus..not a bacteria...it does not grow on surfaces..it exists..but a bacteria will grow..think petri dish..

So what's your point re washing your hands?..... Duh..(Billie Eilish.. quote)

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By *lackXeal OP   Man
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

Facebook, YouTube and Twitter are Struggling to Take Down a Video about Coronavirus Conspiracy Theories

Just Google that, it will take you to the link

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Facebook, YouTube and Twitter are Struggling to Take Down a Video about Coronavirus Conspiracy Theories

Just Google that, it will take you to the link"

Because it's the same... actually..it's worse then Flat-earthers. No one is gonna die from the rubbish they believe and try and spread...

I notice you say you studied microbiology...not that you actually achieved anything like a degree...I studied detecting shit...I have a machine and everything..and it works like a Geiger counter..and the sound of the clicking is doing my head in..

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield


"Just wondering in every single news or headline, they always put the death toll of covid 19. Why cant that they tell us about other death besides covid 19?

"

We would rather they mentioned survival rates as well as death rates

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By *inkerbell67Woman
over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

How many of those deaths are not related to the virus and been added to the list ,i mean with out a autopsy on them all how do we know they all died from it ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How many of those deaths are not related to the virus and been added to the list ,i mean with out a autopsy on them all how do we know they all died from it .."

I suppose in the same way somebody who is diagnosed with cancer and dies from symptoms that are conducive with having cancer.

We don’t do an autopsy on them either, in fact autopsies are pretty rare.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

There are some interesting figures showing the number of deaths per week and comparing them with the average for the same week over the last 5 years. This shows that the death rate suddenly shot up and is currently around 10 thousand people per week dying than the average.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are some interesting figures showing the number of deaths per week and comparing them with the average for the same week over the last 5 years. This shows that the death rate suddenly shot up and is currently around 10 thousand people per week dying than the average."

Can you suggest links please? If in fab rules.

The scientists keep mentioning this method of determining numbers during the daily briefings. It will give a better way for comparison between countries than the current graphs as all countries may be counting covid differently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are some interesting figures showing the number of deaths per week and comparing them with the average for the same week over the last 5 years. This shows that the death rate suddenly shot up and is currently around 10 thousand people per week dying than the average.

Can you suggest links please? If in fab rules.

The scientists keep mentioning this method of determining numbers during the daily briefings. It will give a better way for comparison between countries than the current graphs as all countries may be counting covid differently. "

ONS...

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are some interesting figures showing the number of deaths per week and comparing them with the average for the same week over the last 5 years. This shows that the death rate suddenly shot up and is currently around 10 thousand people per week dying than the average.

Can you suggest links please? If in fab rules.

The scientists keep mentioning this method of determining numbers during the daily briefings. It will give a better way for comparison between countries than the current graphs as all countries may be counting covid differently.

ONS...

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases"

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"There are some interesting figures showing the number of deaths per week and comparing them with the average for the same week over the last 5 years. This shows that the death rate suddenly shot up and is currently around 10 thousand people per week dying than the average.

Can you suggest links please? If in fab rules.

The scientists keep mentioning this method of determining numbers during the daily briefings. It will give a better way for comparison between countries than the current graphs as all countries may be counting covid differently.

ONS...

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases

"

This one too

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are some interesting figures showing the number of deaths per week and comparing them with the average for the same week over the last 5 years. This shows that the death rate suddenly shot up and is currently around 10 thousand people per week dying than the average.

Can you suggest links please? If in fab rules.

The scientists keep mentioning this method of determining numbers during the daily briefings. It will give a better way for comparison between countries than the current graphs as all countries may be counting covid differently.

ONS...

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases

This one too

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales

"

Thank you

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By *innMan
over a year ago

edinburgh


"They aren't telling us road deaths and injuries have dropped dramatically, no airplane crashes, pollution right down.... Is that saving lives? Less hedgehogs getting squashed...... "

There was a report recently that attributed the drop in pollution and better air quality with saving 1500 people

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By *innMan
over a year ago

edinburgh


"NASA admitted UFOs exist last week. That should be front page news"

Don’t believe that - I know for a fact that all the NASA people are in lockdown deep inside a mountain bunker. That press release came from a night porter they left in charge of the building.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham


"Just wondering in every single news or headline, they always put the death toll of covid 19. Why cant that they tell us about other death besides covid 19?"

For those on the fence about this being trivial, it is a hard reminder that things are not over yet.

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By *uttyjonnMan
over a year ago

cheshire


"Just wondering in every single news or headline, they always put the death toll of covid 19. Why cant that they tell us about other death besides covid 19?

"

The guardian have reported a rise in the number of average deaths at home of +8000, 6400 were non C19 related.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/may/08/more-people-dying-at-home-during-covid-19-pandemic-uk-analysis

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's posts like this that put us off commentating here altogether.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

I'm getting to the point I don't trust the figures anymore ...seems that the daily count has gone up in the last few days ...just as easing is mentioned....seems convenient....a friend of my wife who works in a large hospital in kent in icu....would like to know where all the deaths are ...especially in the last 4 weeks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm getting to the point I don't trust the figures anymore ...seems that the daily count has gone up in the last few days ...just as easing is mentioned....seems convenient....a friend of my wife who works in a large hospital in kent in icu....would like to know where all the deaths are ...especially in the last 4 weeks"

The flip of this is I know 2 separate people..from 2 different hospitals..1 in ITU..the other a respiratory ward..so the next step down...and they both have seen more deaths per number of patients..within this period...so swings and roundabouts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm getting to the point I don't trust the figures anymore ...seems that the daily count has gone up in the last few days ...just as easing is mentioned....seems convenient....a friend of my wife who works in a large hospital in kent in icu....would like to know where all the deaths are ...especially in the last 4 weeks"

My friends and colleagues working on Covid wards and ICU know only too well where the deaths are coming from, I guess what happens in one area of the country isn’t exactly the same as what is happening elsewhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wondering in every single news or headline, they always put the death toll of covid 19. Why cant that they tell us about other death besides covid 19?

The guardian have reported a rise in the number of average deaths at home of +8000, 6400 were non C19 related.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/may/08/more-people-dying-at-home-during-covid-19-pandemic-uk-analysis"

I’m drawn to this line in the article which provides a simple explanation...

“leading experts to conclude that many who would ordinarily have been admitted to a ward and died there are instead dying at home.”

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By *inxeyCouple
over a year ago

sutton

This is just scare mongering not all deaths are covid they are just saying they are, have witnessed this, hoping all will want this vaccination which will probably contain a chip so they can play big brother it will be worth billions since when has Bill Gates been a medical expert thruth is ther is and wont be a vaccination that they havent already got think think think they playing on peoples fears don't buy any of it for a majority in my view is fake

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Control of the people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is just scare mongering not all deaths are covid they are just saying they are, have witnessed this, hoping all will want this vaccination which will probably contain a chip so they can play big brother it will be worth billions since when has Bill Gates been a medical expert thruth is ther is and wont be a vaccination that they havent already got think think think they playing on peoples fears don't buy any of it for a majority in my view is fake "

Sorry but...did you hit every branch of the Conspiracy tree as you fell out and smack all the sense out of you on the way down?

You have witnessed people dying..? I know actual medical staff who are dealing with this..

And he's a thought..if you have Billions in the bank. You are able to use this to be a philanthropist..and a humanitarian...he has never claimed to be a medical expert..just in a position to look ahead..a bit like comparing the action of Obama and Trump and how they scan ahead...(well 1 of them anyway)

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

So are you saying all the reported deaths are of the virus

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So are you saying all the reported deaths are of the virus"

If that's at me....I take it you mean in the daily briefing...then that's the stats..

Those in hospital now for any reason are tested and if they die..then why not..every country has had an uplift in total deaths for this period...so what... just a coincidence?

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